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Speaker 1: The Aussies. The government there it has decided to ban

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Speaker 1: the use of social media apps like TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: Facebook for children. The age limit don't know yet still

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Speaker 1: to be decided. The legislation will be introduced by the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. They say, our Prime minister City

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Speaker 1: is open to looking at this. How do you police it?

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Speaker 1: Nathan Wallace is a parenting expert and he's with us

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Speaker 1: this morning. Nathan, good morning, Good morning, right, how are

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Speaker 1: you mate, I'm very well, thank you. Good idea bad

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Speaker 1: idea for a ban.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: it seems like the horses bolted already, but there's long

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Speaker 2: correlation between our mental health crisis and how social media

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Speaker 2: is contributing to that. And you know, people can't access counseling.

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Speaker 2: People on the phone, you start actually trying to get

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Speaker 2: access counseling and trying to get an ADHD diagnosis. Though

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Speaker 2: I told it was either two and a half grand

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Speaker 2: to see someone or a year and a half way.

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Speaker 2: So if we take the health crisis from the other end,

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Speaker 2: if we ban things by social media, that could be

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Speaker 2: one of the major causes of our our mental health

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Speaker 2: crisis with teenagers.

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Speaker 1: I support it, okay, these days I'm like, who doesn't

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Speaker 1: have ADHD?

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Speaker 2: Is is it possible?

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Speaker 1: Are then phones cause ADHD?

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Speaker 2: No? Not really ADHD. It's hard to diagnose ADHD because

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Speaker 2: it's very similar to trauma, you know, I'm basically the

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Speaker 2: brain just responds to stress in a similar way. So

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Speaker 2: whether that is trauma, whether it's ADHD, whether you're grieving

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Speaker 2: because your grandmother's dying, the brain responds in a similar way.

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Speaker 2: So it's hard to say exactly what is ADHD.

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Speaker 1: Vaping, but yeah, vaping and drinking. Obviously kids can't do it,

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Speaker 1: but they still do. Do you see this as another

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Speaker 1: one that would fall into that category? Are you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: it's illegal? But actually they do anyway.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think lots of people are going to do

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Speaker 2: social media anyway because they've had a whole generation of

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Speaker 2: kids who have got used to doing social media. But

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Speaker 2: when you make it illegal, you do seend a clear

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Speaker 2: message that this is dangerous because a lot of people

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Speaker 2: now let their kids drink under at you know, let

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Speaker 2: their kids vape, So you're going to get people that

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Speaker 2: do it anyway. But I still think it's a good

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Speaker 2: message to make it illegal and say love it just

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Speaker 2: be gives a warning flag to people. This is a problem,

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Speaker 2: This is a cause of concern.

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Speaker 1: How old should a kid be before they get a phone?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's hard to say, isn't it. I'm in an

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Speaker 2: ideal world. Sixteen Yeah, and you've got two years, well us, sixteen,

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Speaker 2: two years of your parents helping you to manage it

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Speaker 2: before you're eighteen and they have to manage it by yourself.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree with you more. Nathan, thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for being with us this morning so early as well.

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Speaker 1: Nathan Wallace, parenting expert.

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