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Speaker 1: Right now to the big shake up of the gun laws.

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Speaker 1: It's been revealed and it is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a fizzer. The gun registry is safe, it's not going

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Speaker 1: to be scrapped, and military style semi automatic weapons will

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Speaker 1: not be made available to more people than the few

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Speaker 1: who are allowed to have them currently. The Associate Justice

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Speaker 1: Minister n Cole McKee is behind the reforms.

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Speaker 2: Heinekol, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Why go soft?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think I have gone soft. Actually, what

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Speaker 2: you will see is an entire rewrite of the Arms

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Speaker 2: Act that makes things quite clear. However, I did not

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Speaker 2: win everything that I wanted to, but I did win

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Speaker 2: about ninety five percent of what we wanted. So while

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Speaker 2: some people may be upset that we didn't get the

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Speaker 2: winds in the areas I fought for, there actually are

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Speaker 2: wins for every licensed farm's owner and every member of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand society within my Arms Bill.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what made you change your mind on the gun

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Speaker 1: registry because you wanted to scrap it.

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Speaker 2: I haven't changed my mind on the gun registry. I

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Speaker 2: still want to scrap it. But I did not win

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Speaker 2: the argument, and hence we hadn't agree to disagree with

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Speaker 2: the Coalish partnership, but the biggest things I needed to

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Speaker 2: achieve are there in the Arms Act, and of course

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Speaker 2: we can always look at it again when we look

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Speaker 2: at whether or not the review of the Arms Registry,

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Speaker 2: which is meant to happen again late in a couple

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Speaker 2: more years, gives us any more information. But at this stage, Heather,

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Speaker 2: I'm still against the Registry. I just did not win

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Speaker 2: that debate, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then with the ban on the semi automatics, you

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Speaker 1: wanted to partially lift it. What happened there.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to enable sporting shooters to be able to

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Speaker 2: use large capacity magazines with semi automatics under strict controlled

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Speaker 2: range conditions, and again I could not get that past

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Speaker 2: my colleagues. However, there are some other really good wins

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Speaker 2: in there, including for pest controllers who use large capacities

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Speaker 2: with semi automatics. And I also managed to close another loophole, Heather,

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Speaker 2: where in the twenty nineteen and twenty twenty changes, the

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Speaker 2: government of the day Labor Government did not put conditions

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Speaker 2: on large capacity pistol magazines and they were still able

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Speaker 2: to be purchased without a license. So that will be

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Speaker 2: closed as well.

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Speaker 1: Nicole, thank you very much, really appreciate your time. Nicole McKee,

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