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Speaker 1: Difficult to know when you're looking at highlights with or

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Speaker 1: anything out shone this particular moment. I just won two

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Speaker 1: club championships, not even senior, two regular club championships.

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Speaker 2: To do that, you have to be quite smart.

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Speaker 1: Where I'm happy to play golf. If you carry your

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Speaker 1: own bag, I think you can do it.

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Speaker 2: That's the biggest live It's a six handicap of all

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Speaker 2: I was an eight handicap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eight, But I've seen your swing. I know you swing.

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Speaker 2: Let's act like President Trump. Let's not act like children.

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Speaker 1: Let's not. We're still talking about it. Four days later,

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Speaker 1: presidents at Camp David. Of course, we're family working out

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Speaker 1: what to do next. The panic and the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: has been palpable. Former presidents have been rolled out to

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Speaker 1: reassure people a bad debate does not a campaign derail.

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Speaker 1: Senior national correspondent at US News and will report to

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Speaker 1: oliviate Henry is with us. Good morning to.

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Speaker 2: You, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Could you believe what you were watching?

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Speaker 2: No? No, I could not. You know, we had three

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Speaker 2: and a half years and countless live exchanges with President

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Speaker 2: Biden and that debate. Those ninety minutes on that debate

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Speaker 2: stage were easily the worst of his time in office

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Speaker 2: in terms of his public appearances, speaking, and the and

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Speaker 2: just the general state his general stake does.

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Speaker 1: The fact he rolled out the next day looking bitter

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Speaker 1: and obomber, and Clinton rolled out as well to help

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Speaker 1: him out a bit, fix anything or.

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Speaker 2: Not, Well, it'll it'll It's like a tourniquet, right, it stops,

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Speaker 2: it stops the bleeding in the immediate but if you

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Speaker 2: take a tourniquet off, the person will will keep bleeding.

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Speaker 2: So it's helpful to Joe Biden. Obviously it was necessary

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Speaker 2: for them to come out. But then you also see,

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Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of former aids, former White House

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Speaker 2: aids to Barack Obama coming out and saying Biden needs

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Speaker 2: to step aside. So there's still they are still under

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Speaker 2: considerable pressure. In the last four three hours, they've been

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Speaker 2: trying to reassure the donor base. They've been hyping up fundraising.

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Speaker 2: I think they're up to thirty three million dollars since

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Speaker 2: the debate, half of them from first time donors. But

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Speaker 2: everyone's going to be watching polling from America's battleground states

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Speaker 2: to see just how badly this damaged President Bind's reelection effort.

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Speaker 1: What's your assessment with it. There's a second debate, well, Biden.

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Speaker 2: Biden now needs one, and they've already they've already telegraphed

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Speaker 2: that he would participate in one if one happened. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there is one notionally on the schedule in September, but

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Speaker 2: he needs one now. He needs he needs to be

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Speaker 2: able to well, he needs one. If his team thinks

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Speaker 2: he can, he can deliver a completely different performance, obviously,

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Speaker 2: but he needs stuff to reset his campaign. He's got

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Speaker 2: he has a small advantage going into this week, and

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Speaker 2: that there are a lot of things that are going

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Speaker 2: to be demanding the public's attention, you know, the Paris

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Speaker 2: Olympics and that Yahoo's visit, things like that. So so

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Speaker 2: he's his best at now might be to just to

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Speaker 2: drop out of the headlines as much as possible, and

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Speaker 2: those things will stop the constant replays on television of

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Speaker 2: his debate performance. I mean, the way, the way that

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Speaker 2: I put it in my in my Peace for the

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Speaker 2: US News World report was if you want to know

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Speaker 2: how badly his night went, removing lead pipes made it

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Speaker 2: into his final remarks, but neither neither restoring abortion, abortion

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Speaker 2: access nor preserving Democracy in America did and that presumably

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Speaker 2: was the was the that was the remarks that he

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Speaker 2: would have prepared, knowing that they'd be invited to make

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Speaker 2: closing remarks. It was a terrible performance.

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Speaker 1: Does he stay on the rice.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think he does. We have a new reporting

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Speaker 2: from the New York Times that says that family members

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Speaker 2: are encouraging him to stay in. It would be actually

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Speaker 2: pretty difficult to remove him against his will. So I

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Speaker 2: think as of right now, he stays in the race,

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Speaker 2: certainly in the barnstorming he has done since the debate,

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Speaker 2: He's done a few rallies, he's done a bunch of fundraisers.

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Speaker 2: He has not given any indication at all that he's

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Speaker 2: having second thoughts about running. So I think I understand

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of wish casting that he might step

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party. I don't think it's going to happen. I

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Speaker 2: think it's I think it's Biden Trump in November, barring

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Speaker 2: some cataclysmic event for Ideman.

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Speaker 1: Olivia, appreciate your expertise. We'll get you on again soon.

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