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Speaker 1: Now do you remember last year when what he said

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Speaker 1: that it had to cancel those contracts with the peach

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Speaker 1: growers and Hawks Bay because of foreign dumping. It then

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Speaker 1: accused Chinese companies of dumping their product in the market

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Speaker 1: and harming our industry. Well, it turns out what.

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Speaker 2: He's was right.

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Speaker 1: The government has done a little investigation found Chinese fruit

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Speaker 1: company j Andng International had been dumping products in the

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Speaker 1: market and causing material damage to the industry. Minister of

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Speaker 1: Commerce and Consumer Affairs Scott Simpson is with US High

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Speaker 1: Scott Hi here that do how significant was the damage

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Speaker 1: that was caused?

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Speaker 2: Well, the actual significance has yet to be finally determined.

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Speaker 2: So the first step has been taken. Heinz what he

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Speaker 2: made a complaint about dumping of Chinese imported peaches. MB

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Speaker 2: officials start a prescribed investigation and all this stuff is

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Speaker 2: prescribed in statute, so there is a process involved. They

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Speaker 2: go through that and then they prepare for me a

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Speaker 2: preliminary finding, a provisional finding that there was dumping from

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Speaker 2: just one Chinese importer. And I hasten to add that

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Speaker 2: it's not all Chinese peaches, It's not all imported peaches

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Speaker 2: as well, you know, we import peaches from many countries

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Speaker 2: around the world. So in this one case, there has

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Speaker 2: been a provisional finding that this company J and G

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Speaker 2: have dumped product into the New Zealand marketplace. And now

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Speaker 2: what happens after the provisional findings we made Mbigo away,

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Speaker 2: do some more detail work, find out whether there has

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Speaker 2: been material harm, whether there's a public interest test has

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Speaker 2: been applied, and then a final decisions made in a

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Speaker 2: couple of months.

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Speaker 1: Time, and final decision on what on.

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Speaker 2: Whether to impose a duty and extra duty on peaches

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Speaker 2: that are imported by this J and G company. So

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Speaker 2: that's how we would put to write the price differential.

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Speaker 2: So effectively you're charging them at the border a percentage

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Speaker 2: extra to make their product competitive in a way that's

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Speaker 2: not dumb.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but this is this would be presumably impults from

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Speaker 1: that point on worth it's onwards. It's not retrospective, right,

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Speaker 1: whatever damage they've already done goes kind of I suppose unpunished.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, yes, indeed. But you can be assured that

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Speaker 2: businesses like Hineswadi are very good at spotting behavior of

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Speaker 2: the sort. It's not completely uncommon. We get probably one

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Speaker 2: or two a year cases of dumping of product, not

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Speaker 2: just peatures, a whole range of stuff. So there is

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Speaker 2: a process. It is a prescribed thing and MB officials

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Speaker 2: work their way through it, as do I as minister.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you know how long it had been going

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Speaker 1: on for? When did it start?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, there've been problem with peatures for some years.

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Speaker 2: There was a previous case I think back in about

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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen twenty sixteen a case of dumping was found

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Speaker 2: with peaches that got remedied. But again it's a matter

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Speaker 2: of being constantly alert, constantly vigilant because of course reasonably

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Speaker 2: large volumes of imported peatures coming into the country every

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Speaker 2: year and prices fluctuate, they go up, they go down,

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Speaker 2: some traders disappear, new entrants arrive, So it's a matter

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Speaker 2: of being constantly alert and constantly for job.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm looking at a graph that newsroom

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Speaker 1: dot co, dot and z has published and published and

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Speaker 1: it looks like the dumping might have started. Oh I

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Speaker 1: don't want to lie, but I mean it might have

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Speaker 1: even been Q four of twenty twenty three when it

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Speaker 1: started taking off. So it's been going on for a while.

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Speaker 1: So our system whereby we wait for a complaint and

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Speaker 1: then we do an investigation, and then we think about

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Speaker 1: applying some duties and stuff. It's quite clunky, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Like it takes a long time to remedy something like.

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Speaker 2: This, longer than many people would want. But there does

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Speaker 2: need to be pretty careful and thorough investigation done, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes that involves getting a lot of data from overseas.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's relatively easy to make an allegation of dumping,

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Speaker 2: but checking it out, finding the detail and actually getting

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Speaker 2: to the bottom of it can take a bit of time.

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Speaker 2: So I'd rather we did it properly and carefully than

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Speaker 2: made a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Hey, listen, all roads open to Corimandal this holiday weekend.

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Speaker 2: Everything good, Oh, Heather, I'm so pleased to ask you

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Speaker 2: absolutely to all the listeners corimandlers. Open roads are open,

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Speaker 2: and the good people are coremanded, and the businesses we're

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Speaker 2: welcoming with open arms all and everybody that wants to

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Speaker 2: come and spend a fantastic white tonguey weekend in the

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Speaker 2: beautiful Coramandal.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Hey, thank you very much, Scott really appreciate

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Speaker 1: a Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs Scott Simpsons.

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