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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks ed B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine and Bpure dot co dot

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Saturday Mornings with Jack tam I'm free Hiscubudkin

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Speaker 2: filling in for Jack on his final show of the year.

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Speaker 2: It is a pleasure to be with you right coming

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Speaker 2: up this hour. Go to the movies might not be

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Speaker 2: front of mine at this time of the year, but

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Speaker 2: post Christmas it is such a good thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Get out of the heat and into air conditioning for

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Speaker 2: a couple of hours or past the time on a

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Speaker 2: rainy day, and from the twenty sixth of December, there

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Speaker 2: are some really good films to enjoy. So Chris Schultz

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Speaker 2: is going to run us through a few of them.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Saville joins us with his sporting Highlights of the year,

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Speaker 2: and Nicky Wicks has a peach, raspberry and blueberry trifle

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Speaker 2: cake for us. Sounds good, doesn't it, Francesca, how good

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Speaker 2: is the news about Liam Lawson? Regardless of whether you're

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Speaker 2: a Sergio Perez fan, whether you think max Is Stepan

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Speaker 2: as a teammate, as a you know what you think

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Speaker 2: of him as a teammate or of Liam Lawson as

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Speaker 2: a driver. He has achieved something extraordinary, something is select

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Speaker 2: few accomplish, and secured himselves a coveted F one seat

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five. This is truly something to be celebrated.

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Speaker 2: We've always struggled as New Zealanders to know how to

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Speaker 2: deal with Kiwis who have great success. We love our

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Speaker 2: poppies to a point, and then we tend to tear

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Speaker 2: them down or at least shock them a little bit,

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Speaker 2: just ask them.

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Speaker 2: While I don't propose a seismic cultural shift and lose

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Speaker 2: our generally humble and down to earth attitude, I do

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Speaker 2: think a shift in how we acknowledge success would be

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Speaker 2: a good thing. If we are to become the best

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Speaker 2: little country in the world, we need people in whatever

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Speaker 2: field they'rein to aspire to be the best, and yes,

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Speaker 2: that sometimes requires talking yourself up to be a winner.

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Speaker 2: Liam Lawson knows better than anyone the environment he's heading into,

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Speaker 2: the money, the politics, publicity, and the egos involved. No

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Speaker 2: team is going to pick the guy that says, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: if there's a space available, I'd love it. They want

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Speaker 2: someone who says I can do this. I want to

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Speaker 2: be the best, and I will do what it takes

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Speaker 2: on and off the track. To be a successful if

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Speaker 2: one driver, you need an extraordinary amount of confidence in

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Speaker 2: yourself and your ability. It's a mental game as much

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Speaker 2: as a physical and technical one. In response to the announcement,

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Speaker 2: Liam Lawson said, to be announced as an Oracle Red

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Speaker 2: Bull Racing driver is a lifelong dream for me. This

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Speaker 2: is something I've wanted, wanted and worked towards since i

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Speaker 2: was eight years old. And it reminded me of a

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Speaker 2: conversation that I had with Kiwi IndyCar driver Marcus Armstrong,

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Speaker 2: another great young man. I asked him why New Zealand

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Speaker 2: drivers were doing so well around the world when they

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Speaker 2: often don't have the money or connections to help them,

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Speaker 2: and he said to me that it's because we sacrifice

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Speaker 2: so much to do it. We must succeed. It makes

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Speaker 2: us want to be the best. Lem has wanted this

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Speaker 2: since he was eight. Marcus left New Zealand at twelve

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Speaker 2: to follow his dream. Their success is in a fluke.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people have helped them get to where

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Speaker 2: Their role models for other young kiwis encouraging them to

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Speaker 2: be audacious, to dream big and just go for it.

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Speaker 2: So to all the haters who came out online and

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Speaker 2: to hire him, I say, Merry Christmas, No one cares.

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Speaker 2: I for one can't wait for the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: to support Francesco So Andrew Savil will be with us shortly.

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Speaker 2: He's going to give us his thoughts on just how

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Speaker 2: It's just really good to have a great news story

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year, isn't it anyway? Keen

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Speaker 2: can text? On ninety two ninety two, Kevin Milne reminisces

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Speaker 2: about Christmas as a kid. Next here on News Talks

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Speaker 2: EDB No bitter.

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Speaker 4: Way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and bepeward on codt enz

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Speaker 1: for high quality supplements used talks MB.

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Speaker 2: Kicking us off this morning is Kevin Milne, Good morning.

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Speaker 5: Kevin, Good morning, FRANCHISECA.

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Speaker 2: Do you like Christmas? Do you enjoy this time a year.

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Speaker 5: I don't enjoy this time of year. I like Christmas Day, right,

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Speaker 5: Christmas is not my favorite time of the year.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a long list of things you have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and usually miles behind in achieving any of those.

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Speaker 5: The other thing that was that I get a bit

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Speaker 5: frustrated is you get invited to so many different functions.

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Speaker 5: And I don't say that to show off, because most

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Speaker 5: they want to they want to share a little light

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Speaker 5: lunch with me before good I'm not interested in any

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Speaker 2: Really, Okay, you can politely decline.

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Speaker 5: My favorite memory of Christmas as a child, right. I

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Speaker 5: was brought up in the Catholic family, so every Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 5: she'd forgotten something. She'd have to head back inside for

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Speaker 5: tree for all our presents. They went there when we left.

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Speaker 5: Father Christmas had been while we were out, and we

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Speaker 5: Francesca the penny dropped I realized there was a link

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Speaker 5: that we always seem to just miss out onseeing Father

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Speaker 5: Christmas himself. There were great memories, really, Francesca, and I'd

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Speaker 5: like to wish all our listeners are very, very happy Christmas.

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Speaker 5: I was at a funeral yesterday of a gorgeous forty

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Speaker 5: two year old woman who'll be terribly missed this Christmas.

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Speaker 5: So my heart goes out this year, especially the many

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Speaker 5: listeners who will be spending their first Christmas this year

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my great heart goes out to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a really lovely thought. You just reminded

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Speaker 2: When I was little, we used to go to church

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Speaker 2: I'm happy. I am happy to say that was that

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Speaker 2: Christmas to you, Kevin. Thank you for those lovely thoughts today.

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Speaker 2: I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

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Speaker 2: Lovely to talk to you today. Take you eighteen of

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Speaker 2: thank you for your text. Hi Francisca, huge congrats to

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Speaker 2: huge congratulations to the Lawson family and the McLoughlin's and

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Francesca.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you and to you too. I was

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Speaker 2: just saying, you know, it's amazing. It takes quick announcements

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Speaker 2: and the knock has come out and all the kind

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Speaker 6: he's hard working, and Red Ball for a long time,

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Speaker 2: Sounds divine. Thanks so much, Andrew. Lots of great movies

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Speaker 2: This is on Netflix. You're right, it might be the

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is directed by Clint Eastwood. And why isn't

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Speaker 9: No, really, no, there's a lot of flashbacks. Yeah, but no,

433
00:23:20,613 --> 00:23:22,613
Speaker 9: it's mostly in the court room and in the jura room.

434
00:23:22,733 --> 00:23:24,813
Speaker 9: So that's probably the best. But I mean, like, I'm

435
00:23:24,813 --> 00:23:27,333
Speaker 9: a journalist. I don't get called for jury duty. They

436
00:23:27,373 --> 00:23:30,253
Speaker 9: don't let me do it, and so that's also something

437
00:23:30,253 --> 00:23:32,213
Speaker 9: that's a bit far fetched, right as a journalist on

438
00:23:32,333 --> 00:23:34,733
Speaker 9: jury judy, I sort of was like, oh, no, that

439
00:23:34,773 --> 00:23:37,213
Speaker 9: doesn't happen. But I did like the behind the scenes

440
00:23:37,373 --> 00:23:41,893
Speaker 9: meschinations of like choosing whether someone's guilty or innocent. There's

441
00:23:41,933 --> 00:23:44,093
Speaker 9: a lot of that in there, and that's I don't know,

442
00:23:44,733 --> 00:23:45,333
Speaker 9: I'm into it.

443
00:23:45,413 --> 00:23:46,133
Speaker 4: I liked it.

444
00:23:46,053 --> 00:23:49,893
Speaker 2: Excellent, well, I think anything. I mean, Clint Eastwood, he's

445
00:23:50,613 --> 00:23:52,573
Speaker 2: steady as a director, isn't he always?

446
00:23:52,693 --> 00:23:54,853
Speaker 9: He doesn't know, He's like Ridley Scott. He doesn't need

447
00:23:54,893 --> 00:23:56,853
Speaker 9: to be doing How old is he must be late.

448
00:23:56,693 --> 00:24:01,493
Speaker 2: Eighties, surely I'll google that. A lot of good films though,

449
00:24:01,493 --> 00:24:03,693
Speaker 2: coming through the holidays and as I've mentioned this morning,

450
00:24:03,973 --> 00:24:05,813
Speaker 2: Actually the cinema is a great place to be if

451
00:24:05,813 --> 00:24:08,053
Speaker 2: it gets too hot, or if it's if you've got

452
00:24:08,053 --> 00:24:09,573
Speaker 2: a few rainy days. Looks like there's a little bit

453
00:24:09,613 --> 00:24:11,213
Speaker 2: of rain on the way. It's said. It was a

454
00:24:11,213 --> 00:24:13,213
Speaker 2: great place to go, and there's some really good flicks

455
00:24:13,213 --> 00:24:15,933
Speaker 2: coming out Air Calm underrated, Yeah, I know.

456
00:24:16,533 --> 00:24:16,733
Speaker 8: Yeah.

457
00:24:16,733 --> 00:24:20,333
Speaker 9: Thereas Boxing Day as a huge day, Honora as a

458
00:24:20,373 --> 00:24:24,773
Speaker 9: Palm deal winner. That is for the adults. Definitely Sonic

459
00:24:24,813 --> 00:24:27,973
Speaker 9: the Hedgehog, three of the franchise that just keeps on going.

460
00:24:28,053 --> 00:24:30,573
Speaker 9: I don't know how, but it's super popular. That's out.

461
00:24:30,973 --> 00:24:33,773
Speaker 9: You will not find me at the Robbie Williams Monkey Movie.

462
00:24:33,853 --> 00:24:38,653
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. No, it's great fun. No, I was, I'm

463
00:24:38,453 --> 00:24:42,053
Speaker 2: not doing it. I was skeptical before I went as well,

464
00:24:42,293 --> 00:24:45,173
Speaker 2: because I just thought, okay with that, you know, Michael Gracie,

465
00:24:45,213 --> 00:24:47,053
Speaker 2: he's taken a gimmick and I'm not sure if it's

466
00:24:47,053 --> 00:24:49,653
Speaker 2: gonna work. And do you know what I'm not. I'm

467
00:24:49,653 --> 00:24:52,213
Speaker 2: not even a huge Robbie Williams fan. And I went

468
00:24:52,213 --> 00:24:54,213
Speaker 2: along and I laughed and I cried and I walked

469
00:24:54,253 --> 00:24:56,253
Speaker 2: out with a big smile on my face. It's just

470
00:24:56,333 --> 00:25:00,093
Speaker 2: the dose of it's just feel good. It's honest. It's

471
00:25:00,173 --> 00:25:03,573
Speaker 2: got his charm and his witness naughtiness.

472
00:25:04,213 --> 00:25:04,613
Speaker 11: I don't know.

473
00:25:04,693 --> 00:25:06,133
Speaker 2: I think you're being unfair. I think you should give

474
00:25:06,173 --> 00:25:07,693
Speaker 2: it a bit all right, Maybe you sold that.

475
00:25:08,373 --> 00:25:09,973
Speaker 9: The other thing I just want to shout out to

476
00:25:10,293 --> 00:25:15,493
Speaker 9: is in January, the Christopher Nolan Imax season is beginning.

477
00:25:15,493 --> 00:25:18,293
Speaker 9: They're putting all of Chris Nolan's movies on at Imax again.

478
00:25:18,333 --> 00:25:20,333
Speaker 9: If you're in Auckland or you're coming to it's amazing,

479
00:25:20,573 --> 00:25:23,533
Speaker 9: all of the Batman movies, ten and Interstellar. If you

480
00:25:23,573 --> 00:25:26,013
Speaker 9: missed Oppenheimer on Imax, you get a chance to see

481
00:25:26,013 --> 00:25:28,253
Speaker 9: that again. They should be doing this with New Zealand's

482
00:25:28,253 --> 00:25:29,893
Speaker 9: bigger screen so much more so.

483
00:25:30,133 --> 00:25:32,093
Speaker 2: That's a really great idea and a really good use

484
00:25:32,093 --> 00:25:35,893
Speaker 2: of that screen. Paddington and Peru, of course, my daughter,

485
00:25:36,053 --> 00:25:38,333
Speaker 2: My daughter's excited about when the Paddington films are great.

486
00:25:38,373 --> 00:25:40,373
Speaker 2: They're really great family films and I think they do

487
00:25:40,533 --> 00:25:43,773
Speaker 2: cater to both adults and children. Maybe, Chris, yeah.

488
00:25:43,653 --> 00:25:46,093
Speaker 9: I think you're probably gonna find me more at a

489
00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:48,053
Speaker 9: nos Feratu, this horror.

490
00:25:47,773 --> 00:25:49,813
Speaker 2: Movie that's out on January.

491
00:25:49,973 --> 00:25:51,373
Speaker 9: I'm more likely to go to that. I won't tell

492
00:25:51,413 --> 00:25:52,413
Speaker 9: my daughter to that.

493
00:25:53,053 --> 00:25:55,653
Speaker 2: But for those out there, so Paddington Prue. This is

494
00:25:55,693 --> 00:26:00,413
Speaker 2: the third film Olivia Coleman, isn't it. She sings a

495
00:26:00,413 --> 00:26:03,013
Speaker 2: song like it's the sound of music. It's absolutely fantastic.

496
00:26:03,133 --> 00:26:05,493
Speaker 2: I've actually got Hugh Bonnyville on the Sunday session tomorrow

497
00:26:05,533 --> 00:26:07,173
Speaker 2: after ten and he's going to talk about it, and

498
00:26:07,213 --> 00:26:09,893
Speaker 2: also he's got some sets some news for Downton Abby

499
00:26:09,933 --> 00:26:12,013
Speaker 2: fans as well. Did you mention Wallace and Grommet?

500
00:26:12,893 --> 00:26:13,413
Speaker 4: I did not?

501
00:26:13,773 --> 00:26:14,453
Speaker 9: Is that still goy?

502
00:26:14,493 --> 00:26:15,453
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that was.

503
00:26:15,933 --> 00:26:17,933
Speaker 9: I mean, look, we're all just kind of killing time

504
00:26:17,973 --> 00:26:20,333
Speaker 9: to squid Game season two lands right.

505
00:26:21,693 --> 00:26:23,853
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk

506
00:26:23,893 --> 00:26:26,493
Speaker 2: about that as well a little bit later on. Have

507
00:26:26,573 --> 00:26:29,373
Speaker 2: you seen Conclave too? Just very quickly because we've gotten there.

508
00:26:29,413 --> 00:26:31,293
Speaker 2: You're right, there is so much coming out in the

509
00:26:31,293 --> 00:26:33,413
Speaker 2: new year. So this is out on January ninth, and

510
00:26:33,493 --> 00:26:35,413
Speaker 2: this is a recommendation from myself. It's the one with

511
00:26:35,893 --> 00:26:37,973
Speaker 2: ra fines and it it's the one where they need

512
00:26:38,013 --> 00:26:41,173
Speaker 2: to select a new pope. Have you heard about this?

513
00:26:41,213 --> 00:26:43,333
Speaker 2: So this played at the British and Irish Film Festival

514
00:26:43,373 --> 00:26:46,773
Speaker 2: recently and it's coming back on the ninth and it's

515
00:26:46,933 --> 00:26:50,813
Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic, So write that one down. You were right

516
00:26:50,853 --> 00:26:53,333
Speaker 2: about Anura as well. That's another really good one for

517
00:26:54,093 --> 00:26:57,533
Speaker 2: the adults. Actually, this is interesting. Elliot Smith, who listeners

518
00:26:57,533 --> 00:27:00,813
Speaker 2: will know as our news talks. He'd be sports journalist

519
00:27:00,933 --> 00:27:03,573
Speaker 2: and also the voice of Rugby, knows everything about Rubby,

520
00:27:04,093 --> 00:27:07,373
Speaker 2: very very good taste in film. And when he goes

521
00:27:07,413 --> 00:27:09,653
Speaker 2: on tour like his is off, he might have an

522
00:27:09,693 --> 00:27:12,373
Speaker 2: afternoon or an evening spare. So when he was doing

523
00:27:12,373 --> 00:27:13,973
Speaker 2: the Northern tour with the All Blacks, he had he

524
00:27:14,013 --> 00:27:17,333
Speaker 2: had two little sort of spare afternoons. He goes to

525
00:27:17,373 --> 00:27:19,693
Speaker 2: the movies and he came back and he saw during

526
00:27:19,773 --> 00:27:22,213
Speaker 2: number two in a cinema they're playing in the cinemas

527
00:27:22,213 --> 00:27:24,653
Speaker 2: in France, which he enjoyed, and he came back and said,

528
00:27:24,653 --> 00:27:26,133
Speaker 2: you've got to see Innaura and I thought it was

529
00:27:26,133 --> 00:27:29,173
Speaker 2: the goodness me. Elliott hidden, just hidden, You're just a

530
00:27:29,493 --> 00:27:32,813
Speaker 2: hidden talents. He's got very good taste in music as well. Hey,

531
00:27:32,813 --> 00:27:34,453
Speaker 2: thank you so much for filling in through the year.

532
00:27:34,493 --> 00:27:36,093
Speaker 2: I know you pop up on Jack Show and of

533
00:27:36,093 --> 00:27:38,413
Speaker 2: course on a Sunday session. It's It's always good to

534
00:27:38,453 --> 00:27:42,653
Speaker 2: have you on board. Thanks for having have a lovely crusters. Yeah,

535
00:27:42,653 --> 00:27:46,493
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. It is a seventeen to ten News TALKSB.

536
00:27:47,893 --> 00:27:51,653
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going through

537
00:27:51,693 --> 00:27:54,613
Speaker 1: the weekend with thepewre Dot cot on Ince here for

538
00:27:54,693 --> 00:27:56,853
Speaker 1: high quality supplements used Talks NB.

539
00:27:57,773 --> 00:28:01,013
Speaker 2: I thank you very much. Texts Clint Eastwood is ninety

540
00:28:01,053 --> 00:28:03,533
Speaker 2: four years old doing well, isn't he good on them?

541
00:28:04,693 --> 00:28:08,973
Speaker 2: Time for a recipe now? And Nicky Wicks is with us.

542
00:28:09,173 --> 00:28:12,893
Speaker 2: Lovely to have you. Good morning, Good morning, Francesca. Are

543
00:28:12,933 --> 00:28:14,253
Speaker 2: you under control for Christmas?

544
00:28:15,773 --> 00:28:16,053
Speaker 12: Oh?

545
00:28:16,133 --> 00:28:18,573
Speaker 13: I think is under control as you can be at

546
00:28:18,573 --> 00:28:21,693
Speaker 13: this time of year. I mean, look, if you're with

547
00:28:21,813 --> 00:28:24,213
Speaker 13: friends and family, who cares this will go wrong?

548
00:28:24,293 --> 00:28:25,733
Speaker 11: Things will go right whatever.

549
00:28:26,413 --> 00:28:28,893
Speaker 13: I'm just relaxed about it. You know what, can you do?

550
00:28:29,173 --> 00:28:29,853
Speaker 2: Very good approach?

551
00:28:31,053 --> 00:28:33,213
Speaker 13: It amazes me because every year it's as though the

552
00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:36,493
Speaker 13: twenty fifth. It's not like somebody you know randomly just

553
00:28:36,493 --> 00:28:37,493
Speaker 13: says Okay, it's gonna be the.

554
00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:38,733
Speaker 4: You know it's coming.

555
00:28:38,973 --> 00:28:42,093
Speaker 13: But every year you know, yeah exactly, you know what's coming.

556
00:28:42,173 --> 00:28:46,653
Speaker 2: But there you go. You have got a Christmas trifle

557
00:28:46,693 --> 00:28:50,333
Speaker 2: cake for us today peach, raspberry and blueberry trifle cake.

558
00:28:50,973 --> 00:28:52,733
Speaker 2: You say it's really easy. Why in the back of

559
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:54,533
Speaker 2: my mind? And I always think trifles hard.

560
00:28:56,253 --> 00:28:58,693
Speaker 13: I know it's crazy, isn't it. And look, I'm pulling

561
00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:02,013
Speaker 13: this one out as the last one before Christmas. And

562
00:29:02,053 --> 00:29:04,013
Speaker 13: for those of you who are feeling out of control

563
00:29:04,093 --> 00:29:07,293
Speaker 13: and perhaps had planned a complicated dessert, can it and

564
00:29:07,333 --> 00:29:10,573
Speaker 13: do this one? It is super simple. I don't love

565
00:29:10,613 --> 00:29:12,533
Speaker 13: a trifle done in a bowl because you sort of

566
00:29:12,573 --> 00:29:14,933
Speaker 13: scoop it, and I don't know, unless you've got one

567
00:29:14,973 --> 00:29:17,573
Speaker 13: of those fancy clear bowls, glass bowls, I think it

568
00:29:17,653 --> 00:29:19,893
Speaker 13: ends up looking like a train wreck. This is a cake,

569
00:29:19,973 --> 00:29:23,093
Speaker 13: so it sits proudly, but it's moist and delicious and

570
00:29:23,133 --> 00:29:24,893
Speaker 13: it's exactly like a trifle.

571
00:29:25,173 --> 00:29:26,493
Speaker 11: And look here I go.

572
00:29:27,013 --> 00:29:30,133
Speaker 13: Listeners, close your ears if you're If you're a iron

573
00:29:30,213 --> 00:29:33,173
Speaker 13: must make everything from scratch. But this involves two straw

574
00:29:33,213 --> 00:29:36,213
Speaker 13: bought trifle sponges. You can make your own if you want.

575
00:29:36,893 --> 00:29:39,853
Speaker 13: Line a twenty centimeter spring form cake tin with baking

576
00:29:39,893 --> 00:29:43,853
Speaker 13: paper and then extends the height of the sides kind

577
00:29:43,853 --> 00:29:45,973
Speaker 13: of up with with a sort of double layer of

578
00:29:45,973 --> 00:29:47,933
Speaker 13: baking paper. So you've got sort of like a collar

579
00:29:48,253 --> 00:29:50,973
Speaker 13: if you like. Cut one of the sponges through the middle,

580
00:29:51,893 --> 00:29:54,053
Speaker 13: and then you want to make those sponges, which generally

581
00:29:54,053 --> 00:29:56,173
Speaker 13: come round or square, but if it's square, you want

582
00:29:56,173 --> 00:29:59,053
Speaker 13: to make it round. Leave one thick one, and then

583
00:29:59,053 --> 00:30:01,293
Speaker 13: you've got two thinner sponges by cutting one of them

584
00:30:01,453 --> 00:30:04,293
Speaker 13: in half through the middle, and then cut them to

585
00:30:04,493 --> 00:30:07,173
Speaker 13: the shape of your tin, and press one the thick

586
00:30:07,213 --> 00:30:10,173
Speaker 13: sponge into the base of the tin. Francesca. Then you

587
00:30:10,213 --> 00:30:13,253
Speaker 13: want to take a quarter, I mean a quarter a

588
00:30:13,293 --> 00:30:17,013
Speaker 13: third of the sherry and I've used seventy five meals,

589
00:30:17,013 --> 00:30:19,213
Speaker 13: and you want to sprinkle that over the custard, because

590
00:30:19,333 --> 00:30:22,173
Speaker 13: every good trifle has to have a little bit of

591
00:30:22,293 --> 00:30:23,973
Speaker 13: shit in there. If you're not into that, you can

592
00:30:24,013 --> 00:30:26,813
Speaker 13: always use orange juice. You want to top this then

593
00:30:26,973 --> 00:30:30,733
Speaker 13: with a layer of beautiful peach slices, and just a

594
00:30:30,813 --> 00:30:32,973
Speaker 13: layer of those around the edges, and then in the middle.

595
00:30:33,293 --> 00:30:35,733
Speaker 13: Really right fresh peaches are great. You're going to use

596
00:30:35,733 --> 00:30:39,173
Speaker 13: two cups of them, or you can use some really

597
00:30:39,333 --> 00:30:43,893
Speaker 13: simptined peaches as fine. Scatter over a third of a

598
00:30:43,933 --> 00:30:46,453
Speaker 13: punish of raspberries, and I squished them a little bit

599
00:30:46,493 --> 00:30:48,813
Speaker 13: because they're going to look really great bleed into the

600
00:30:48,853 --> 00:30:51,533
Speaker 13: sort of custard filling. And then you want to put

601
00:30:51,573 --> 00:30:56,333
Speaker 13: over some of a about two hundred meals of thick custard.

602
00:30:56,813 --> 00:30:58,373
Speaker 13: This is not an ad, but I do use the

603
00:30:58,413 --> 00:31:01,853
Speaker 13: meadow Fresh because they have an extra thick one and

604
00:31:01,893 --> 00:31:02,253
Speaker 13: that's the.

605
00:31:02,173 --> 00:31:02,933
Speaker 14: One you want to use.

606
00:31:02,973 --> 00:31:06,733
Speaker 13: Here, put another layer of sponge on top, the same

607
00:31:06,773 --> 00:31:10,053
Speaker 13: thing with the sherry, the fruit, the custard right until

608
00:31:10,053 --> 00:31:12,973
Speaker 13: you've got that last layer of sponge, and then top

609
00:31:13,013 --> 00:31:16,093
Speaker 13: the first laer the last layer with a bit of sherry.

610
00:31:16,133 --> 00:31:20,413
Speaker 13: Of course, press it down semi firmly all over. I

611
00:31:20,453 --> 00:31:22,853
Speaker 13: even put sometimes a dinner plate on top of it.

612
00:31:22,973 --> 00:31:24,733
Speaker 13: And then into the fridge it goes, and it can

613
00:31:24,773 --> 00:31:26,773
Speaker 13: really stay there for a couple of days if you like.

614
00:31:26,973 --> 00:31:29,093
Speaker 13: And it's quite good if it does, because all the

615
00:31:29,133 --> 00:31:32,773
Speaker 13: beautiful juices from the peaches, the raspberries, the blue and

616
00:31:33,053 --> 00:31:35,573
Speaker 13: everything that just kind of soaks in. And then just

617
00:31:35,613 --> 00:31:38,333
Speaker 13: before serving, whip up a bit of cream three hundred

618
00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:41,813
Speaker 13: miles of cream. We'll get you there easy, and spoon

619
00:31:41,893 --> 00:31:44,813
Speaker 13: that over and then cut some I used a punet

620
00:31:44,813 --> 00:31:48,013
Speaker 13: of blueberries here. Scatter over some blueberries. I'd leave some

621
00:31:48,093 --> 00:31:51,133
Speaker 13: hole in some cut and you'll have some remaining raspberries

622
00:31:51,133 --> 00:31:54,373
Speaker 13: at the stage too, scatter over some slithered almonds, because

623
00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:57,493
Speaker 13: every good trifle has a decent crunch to it, and

624
00:31:57,533 --> 00:32:00,413
Speaker 13: then dust it all with icing sugar. And that's the

625
00:32:00,413 --> 00:32:03,813
Speaker 13: graing is those blueberries. They pick up the icing sugar

626
00:32:03,853 --> 00:32:06,053
Speaker 13: so they sort of look like snow. And then you

627
00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:10,053
Speaker 13: really to serve and that's just on a plate, sharp knife,

628
00:32:10,093 --> 00:32:11,493
Speaker 13: cut it into big wedges.

629
00:32:11,613 --> 00:32:15,053
Speaker 2: Oh, it's absolutely delicious. And I love the way you

630
00:32:15,093 --> 00:32:17,573
Speaker 2: can do this a day or two before the chaos,

631
00:32:17,773 --> 00:32:19,453
Speaker 2: you know, so it can be done and ready to go,

632
00:32:19,573 --> 00:32:21,653
Speaker 2: and you can go. By the time we get to dessert,

633
00:32:21,693 --> 00:32:23,373
Speaker 2: I'm sorted. I don't need to get up and do

634
00:32:23,453 --> 00:32:24,053
Speaker 2: too much else.

635
00:32:24,253 --> 00:32:26,973
Speaker 13: Yeah, and that is the key for anyone feeling out

636
00:32:27,013 --> 00:32:29,293
Speaker 13: of control, do as much as again. That actually an

637
00:32:29,293 --> 00:32:31,813
Speaker 13: effect is why a ham is so great as well,

638
00:32:31,853 --> 00:32:34,653
Speaker 13: because it doesn't have to be served hot. Salmon is

639
00:32:34,653 --> 00:32:36,973
Speaker 13: great for that. And any sort of dessert that can

640
00:32:37,013 --> 00:32:38,573
Speaker 13: be done like this a day or two a head.

641
00:32:38,733 --> 00:32:39,373
Speaker 14: I'm loving it.

642
00:32:39,413 --> 00:32:40,093
Speaker 2: So there you go.

643
00:32:40,573 --> 00:32:41,653
Speaker 13: Merry Merry Christmas.

644
00:32:41,733 --> 00:32:43,653
Speaker 15: Everyone, have a beautiful.

645
00:32:43,213 --> 00:32:45,413
Speaker 2: Time and a merry merry Christmas to you. Thank you

646
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Speaker 2: so much for your contribution to Saturday Mornings throughout the

647
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Speaker 2: year are always inspiring. Nicky, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 13: It's an episode highlight for me. I love sharing these

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Speaker 13: recipes with our beautiful listeners.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much too for your feedback. This morning.

651
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Speaker 2: Somebody says, oh, my gosh, totally understand read that movie.

652
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Speaker 2: We watched it last night. I think this person's talking

653
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Speaker 2: about carry on. They said, we watched it last night

654
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Speaker 2: and it was pretty far fetched Christmas even no people

655
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Speaker 2: in sight, no matter scene worse. Happy Christmas, Francisca, and

656
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Speaker 2: to you too. And that's the thing. I mean, it's

657
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Speaker 2: absolutely fine for movies to be far fetched at this

658
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Speaker 2: time of the year. We are all about the escapism,

659
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Speaker 2: aren't we, because there's a lot going on in our lives,

660
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Speaker 2: and that's what we want to sit down and have

661
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Speaker 2: a little bit of escapism. I think I was just

662
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Speaker 2: in one of those moods, you know, sometimes you do

663
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Speaker 2: sit down and maybe you're just not in the mood

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Speaker 2: to go do I have an hour and a half

665
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Speaker 2: for this, and so that was how I was feeling

666
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Speaker 2: about that. Thank you too for your comments on Liam Lawson.

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Speaker 2: Hi Franchisca, your comments on Liam Lawson making the Red

668
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Speaker 2: Bull if one team absolutely spot on. Let's celebrate this

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Speaker 2: to the max. Let's support him next year with positive

670
00:33:50,653 --> 00:33:55,373
Speaker 2: energy and enthusiasm. That was from Phil Brat. Text to say, Francisca,

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize that Liam was driving

672
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Speaker 2: a substandard car for Red Bull. Even Yuki's car was

673
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Speaker 2: of highest speech. So he did well competing in this car.

674
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Speaker 2: He will now be driving the top tier cars. It'll

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Speaker 2: be exciting to watch his progress. And another text to say, sadly,

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of key he was knocking Lawson

677
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Speaker 2: as well, the tall poppy knockers. I'm just so over

678
00:34:15,333 --> 00:34:19,373
Speaker 2: the tall poppy syndrome. Honestly, let's just be done with it.

679
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Speaker 2: And another text here, I'm a fifty nine year old

680
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Speaker 2: male out in my shed listening to Newstalks e B.

681
00:34:26,293 --> 00:34:30,453
Speaker 2: Mister Milne's childhood story has filled my ears, my eyes, sorry,

682
00:34:30,853 --> 00:34:34,373
Speaker 2: filled my eyes with tears. How beautiful. Thank you for

683
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Speaker 2: your feedback. You can touch base anytime throughout the morning.

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Speaker 2: On ninety two, ninety two, it is eight to.

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Speaker 1: Ten giving you the inside scoop on all you need

686
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Speaker 1: to us Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Vpewar dot

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Speaker 1: co dot nst for high quality Supplements, news talks that'd be.

688
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Speaker 2: Now a good friend of mine. This week I was

689
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Speaker 2: having a chat to her and she said how she

690
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Speaker 2: had almost been someone had tried to scam her, but

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Speaker 2: the bank thankfully had stopped it then had canceled her

692
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Speaker 2: cards and she didn't lose any money or anything. But

693
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Speaker 2: she did make the point that it was kind of

694
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Speaker 2: clear to her that who had the people who tried

695
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Speaker 2: to scam he had quite a lot of information. They

696
00:35:08,853 --> 00:35:10,493
Speaker 2: had her email and phone numers and all sorts of

697
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Speaker 2: things like that, and she was a lot of when

698
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Speaker 2: she said, oh, you know, she'd be concerned about this,

699
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Speaker 2: and I said, well, you probably should change your passwords,

700
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Speaker 2: and she looked me into yeah, probably should change my passwords,

701
00:35:22,413 --> 00:35:24,653
Speaker 2: and we kind of there was that knowing glance between

702
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Speaker 2: us when we went, what's the bet she never gets

703
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Speaker 2: around to changing her passwords? Because so many of us,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's you know, it's quite a laborious

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00:35:31,853 --> 00:35:34,853
Speaker 2: thing to do. It's not a sexy New Year resolution,

706
00:35:34,973 --> 00:35:37,253
Speaker 2: but it is probably something we should all consider doing

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of next year, is updating and making

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Speaker 2: sure we've got really good, solid passwords it can be

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Speaker 2: a mission. But Paul Stenhouse is going to be with

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Speaker 2: us next out and he's going to make it really easy.

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Speaker 2: He has got passwork, he's got his password security one

712
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Speaker 2: oh one lecture for us, and he is going to

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Speaker 2: get us sorted so that we do that. Yes, some

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Speaker 2: on my list as well. It just kind of keeps

715
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Speaker 2: getting moved to the bottom of the list, and it

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be. It's actually really important. Okay. So at this

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Speaker 2: time of the year, we're all thinking, of course about

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Speaker 2: being with loved ones, about spending quality time with people

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Speaker 2: in our lives, and quite often that involves food. So

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Speaker 2: who better to have on the show than award winning

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Speaker 2: Kiwi chef Mark Gregory. Now, Mark he has spent his

722
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Speaker 2: career he has cooked for royals, for presidents, sports legends,

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Speaker 2: movie stars, but he knows a little something about just

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Speaker 2: cooking for your family as well. He has released a

725
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Speaker 2: beautiful new book. It's called Christmas at the Castle Cookbook. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Mark does live in a castle. We're going to be

727
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Speaker 2: talking about that as well, and he's got some beautiful

728
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Speaker 2: recipes in here. But also he's thought really clearly about this,

729
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Speaker 2: and he's got fun things and games and other things

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Speaker 2: that you can do at Christmas time to have a

731
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Speaker 2: wonderful time. Other thing, though, is that Mark also understands

732
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Speaker 2: the importance of giving back and fighting food and security.

733
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Speaker 2: So we're going to have a talk about that as well.

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Speaker 2: Mark Gregory is with me after the news. Next here

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Speaker 2: on news Dogs.

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Speaker 4: Rocky run the Christmas Tree.

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Speaker 16: Let the Christmas be hear it free.

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Speaker 8: Later we'll have some fucking fire hands, will do some gnerally.

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Speaker 2: You will get a.

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Speaker 15: Sin on mittle feeling when.

741
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Speaker 4: You hear.

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Speaker 12: Boy says sing and let me jolly bars with but

743
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Speaker 12: also hot holly.

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Speaker 16: Rocky ran the Christmas Tree.

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Speaker 13: Have a happy pology, everyone dancing merrily in the new

746
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Speaker 13: old passion way.

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Speaker 7: You will get your settle little feeling.

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Speaker 11: When you eat it bers.

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Speaker 8: Let's be jolly bars with bars of hoy talking.

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Speaker 2: Rack Christmas tree. Have a happy holiday.

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Speaker 17: Everyone dance it fairly in the news Oh fast Shine.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday. Saturday Mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and beepure dot co dot instead for high

754
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Speaker 1: quality supplements news talks.

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Speaker 4: It'd be.

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Speaker 11: Orson.

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Speaker 4: Is you.

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Speaker 2: This is Saturday Mornings. I'm Francisca Budkin filling in for

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame with you until midday. Lovely to have you

760
00:39:29,733 --> 00:39:32,573
Speaker 2: with us. Coming up this our squid game is back.

761
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Speaker 2: Are you up for it? Taraward with the Rundown on

762
00:39:35,413 --> 00:39:38,733
Speaker 2: the news series, Doctor Brian Betty has some really sensible

763
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Speaker 2: reminders for staying healthy these holidays and root Climb past

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Speaker 2: is going to explain why we should head into the

765
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Speaker 2: garden with a UV torch that's coming up in the

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Speaker 2: next hour. Now Christmas has crept up on some of us,

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Speaker 2: but I can guarantee, as a man who has been

768
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Speaker 2: in hospital all his life, for our guest today will

769
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Speaker 2: be well prepared. Mark Gregory is a chef who has

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Speaker 2: worked around the world. He's cooked Royalty music, legends, sporting

771
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Speaker 2: greats and has spent decades in top European kitchens. He

772
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Speaker 2: also appeared on TV shows like Really Steady Cook and

773
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Speaker 2: the BBC's Good Food Show and make was the first

774
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Speaker 2: KEYI chief to be awarded both the Master of Culinary

775
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Speaker 2: Arts by the Royal Academy and France's Master Craftsman status

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Speaker 2: as well. He was in twenty twenty two inducted into

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Speaker 2: the Restaurant Association's Hall of Fame and as a founding

778
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Speaker 2: trustee of dine Aid, the charity for New Zealand's restaurant industry,

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Speaker 2: and he's a massive fan of Christmas as well.

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Speaker 18: Good morning, good morning, Francesca.

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Speaker 2: Lovely to have you with us, and thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for the book Christmas at the Castle Cook.

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Speaker 18: Yes, isn't it fun?

784
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Speaker 2: It is fun? Clearly you do like Christmas, hence you've

785
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Speaker 2: done a book about it. Is it a favorite timing year?

786
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Speaker 2: Is it a favorite food time?

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Speaker 18: It's a favorite for so many ways. We all know

788
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Speaker 18: it's full of hope and joy and things like that.

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Speaker 18: At Christmas, all roads lead home. So people come home,

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Speaker 18: and we have four children and six grandchildren and we

791
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:05,773
Speaker 18: get to see them alther these days online on your

792
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Speaker 18: phone because they can't all be in the same country.

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Speaker 18: But I think food, yes, I think a lot of

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00:41:13,533 --> 00:41:17,093
Speaker 18: our early memories are wrapped up around food and Christmas

795
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Speaker 18: times and having fun, you know, eating, playing games, hanging out,

796
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Speaker 18: falling out, cracking a joke, And for us, I wanted

797
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Speaker 18: to put all that into a book. So in the book,

798
00:41:30,013 --> 00:41:32,213
Speaker 18: there's loads of things to make and bake for Christmas,

799
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Speaker 18: loads of gifts you can make, and then the final

800
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Speaker 18: section chapter is play. So there's loads of games you

801
00:41:38,773 --> 00:41:41,333
Speaker 18: can play in fact our Top twelve, plus a load

802
00:41:41,373 --> 00:41:43,613
Speaker 18: of things you can make and do with the family

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Speaker 18: during the holidays. So it's about, I hope, spending time

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Speaker 18: and reconnecting.

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Speaker 2: Do you have strong traditions around Christmas or do you

806
00:41:53,933 --> 00:41:55,293
Speaker 2: mix it up? Do you sort of have the same

807
00:41:55,613 --> 00:41:58,853
Speaker 2: you know, I think that family expects but then occasionally

808
00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:00,733
Speaker 2: throw on a surprise or two both.

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Speaker 18: I'll tell you a true story. This morning, we're having

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Speaker 18: a little bit of a party tomorrow someday. And I've

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Speaker 18: got some tags out because in Italy, when people arrive,

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Speaker 18: you get them to write on a little card something joyous,

813
00:42:14,533 --> 00:42:17,253
Speaker 18: something positive, and you hang it on the Christmas tree.

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Speaker 18: So your Christmas tree has filled with lots of little

815
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Speaker 18: cards or tags filled with people's best wishes. I got

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Speaker 18: them out this morning, ready for tomorrow, and my wife said,

817
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Speaker 18: what have you got those out for? I said, oh,

818
00:42:30,053 --> 00:42:33,973
Speaker 18: for the traditional people put happy notes on the treesh goes.

819
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Speaker 18: Oh we're not doing that again, are we.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're bringing a bit of positive thing into Christmas.

821
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Speaker 2: Oh we're not doing many, I said, my darling, are

822
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Speaker 2: you wearing green today? As the Grinch just got out

823
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Speaker 2: of bed? Oh, blease, but you do live in a

824
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Speaker 2: real life castle, maybe as close as it comes do

825
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Speaker 2: having a castle.

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Speaker 4: And it is.

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Speaker 18: It was built one hundred years ago by a captain

828
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Speaker 18: and he built it for his Scottish wife who was

829
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Speaker 18: missing Scotland. So if any of anybody knows Takapuna and Milford,

830
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Speaker 18: it's on the waterfront between in Takapuna and Milford. A

831
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Speaker 18: lot of people walk past it, you know, each day

832
00:43:11,253 --> 00:43:13,413
Speaker 18: on the coastal walk. So we live there.

833
00:43:13,933 --> 00:43:16,053
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a wonderful spot. I know it I very much.

834
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Speaker 2: The minute I saw it in the book, I said

835
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Speaker 2: a bit.

836
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Speaker 12: Ah.

837
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Speaker 18: It puts a smile on our faces every morning we

838
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Speaker 18: wake up.

839
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Speaker 2: You've got one of the best views in your kitchen

840
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Speaker 2: if you're going to stand at a bench and do

841
00:43:26,613 --> 00:43:28,733
Speaker 2: some cooking looking straight out at ring a total.

842
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Speaker 18: I spent almost twenty five years working in underground kitchens

843
00:43:33,413 --> 00:43:35,613
Speaker 18: in London and other countries. So you go to work

844
00:43:35,653 --> 00:43:38,853
Speaker 18: on the underground, you work underground, You go home on

845
00:43:38,933 --> 00:43:42,293
Speaker 18: the underground for about five months of the year. You

846
00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:46,453
Speaker 18: don't you do not see daylight. So now with that view,

847
00:43:47,013 --> 00:43:49,293
Speaker 18: we never ever take it for granted.

848
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Speaker 2: No, it's so spiritual. Are you a Christmas hair man

849
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Speaker 2: or a Christmas turkey.

850
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Speaker 1: We do both.

851
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Speaker 18: My son wild if we do not have a baked

852
00:43:59,053 --> 00:44:05,653
Speaker 18: hand with caramelized pineapple, basically he won't come home. However, turkey,

853
00:44:06,493 --> 00:44:09,293
Speaker 18: I whilst cooking for a long time, we found a

854
00:44:09,373 --> 00:44:13,013
Speaker 18: way to lock in the moisture in turkey. So turkey

855
00:44:13,053 --> 00:44:15,973
Speaker 18: in our house is actually rather nice and not dry

856
00:44:16,373 --> 00:44:18,333
Speaker 18: because all we do is brin it. The secret to

857
00:44:18,413 --> 00:44:20,773
Speaker 18: it is to brin it, okay, and it locks. You know,

858
00:44:20,813 --> 00:44:24,053
Speaker 18: when you have smoked salmon or smoked chicken, they're always moist.

859
00:44:25,453 --> 00:44:27,933
Speaker 18: If you brine a turkey, it will end up moist.

860
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Speaker 11: I thought that the.

861
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Speaker 2: Problem with the turkey was people just overcooked it and

862
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Speaker 2: hints it was dry.

863
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Speaker 18: I think these days with probes. Yeah, there are a

864
00:44:35,733 --> 00:44:39,973
Speaker 18: couple of great recipes in the book, but get yourself

865
00:44:40,013 --> 00:44:44,733
Speaker 18: a temperature probe and basically probe the turkey, check it's done.

866
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Speaker 18: And also I think I do about thirty five minutes

867
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Speaker 18: per kilo something like that, and then give it an

868
00:44:53,973 --> 00:44:55,453
Speaker 18: extra thirty five minutes at the end.

869
00:44:56,373 --> 00:44:58,213
Speaker 2: See it all just feels like it feels like such

870
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Speaker 2: hard root For me, I've given up and I've gone.

871
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Speaker 4: For the turkey.

872
00:45:00,413 --> 00:45:02,973
Speaker 2: Roland. You know what I mean? Yes, would you fantastic?

873
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Speaker 18: Look I talked to someone this week. They're having a

874
00:45:06,893 --> 00:45:09,933
Speaker 18: leg of lamb. I was with someone last week and

875
00:45:09,933 --> 00:45:12,093
Speaker 18: they're having salmon. They're going down to talk on anyway,

876
00:45:12,133 --> 00:45:15,133
Speaker 18: they're having salmon, which they're doing on a barbecue. But

877
00:45:15,293 --> 00:45:19,693
Speaker 18: if you want the easiest Christmas ever, charge everybody forty

878
00:45:19,733 --> 00:45:23,013
Speaker 18: dollars for coming and do a seafood platter. Make a

879
00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:26,733
Speaker 18: seafood platter because they are expensive, so do charge everyone.

880
00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:29,253
Speaker 18: It's a big thing around the world now where people

881
00:45:29,333 --> 00:45:32,573
Speaker 18: are beginning to charge family members to come for Christmas

882
00:45:32,653 --> 00:45:36,173
Speaker 18: Day because there is a cost of living squeeze, not

883
00:45:36,373 --> 00:45:39,893
Speaker 18: just here in New Zealand everywhere. But you buy it,

884
00:45:40,373 --> 00:45:43,453
Speaker 18: even crayfish, it's all cooked. All you've got to do

885
00:45:43,613 --> 00:45:45,373
Speaker 18: is take it out of the fridge, put it on

886
00:45:45,453 --> 00:45:48,773
Speaker 18: a platter, and every and it spoils everyone a.

887
00:45:48,733 --> 00:45:51,173
Speaker 2: Couple of salads. It's really interesting you talk about that

888
00:45:51,253 --> 00:45:53,733
Speaker 2: because it's been quite controversial sort of over the last

889
00:45:53,733 --> 00:45:55,813
Speaker 2: few years, when you know it's hit the news that

890
00:45:56,013 --> 00:46:00,573
Speaker 2: some you know, a family member charged her family to

891
00:46:00,613 --> 00:46:02,413
Speaker 2: come for Christmas. But actually it makes sense if you

892
00:46:02,493 --> 00:46:05,093
Speaker 2: haven't divvied up the work. If you're not all turning

893
00:46:05,213 --> 00:46:08,013
Speaker 2: up with a plate yes, or the salad or the

894
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Speaker 2: dessert or something. Then and if one person is doing

895
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Speaker 2: all the work, I think it's a great idea, makes

896
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Speaker 2: it it's.

897
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Speaker 18: A bad sharing. I mean weddings to give an idea,

898
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Speaker 18: weddings around the world, from China to Italy. Quite often,

899
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Speaker 18: when you have a big wedding outside of the immediate family,

900
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Speaker 18: everyone else pays for their own ticket. So you have

901
00:46:27,173 --> 00:46:29,333
Speaker 18: these in many parts of the world and have done

902
00:46:29,373 --> 00:46:32,893
Speaker 18: for many decades. Huge weddings. No one can afford them,

903
00:46:33,293 --> 00:46:36,133
Speaker 18: but everybody who wants to come can come, so that

904
00:46:36,213 --> 00:46:38,173
Speaker 18: you can invite the whole village, but they know that

905
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Speaker 18: they pay their for their seat.

906
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Speaker 2: There we go. The book has lots of side recipes,

907
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Speaker 2: which is great for vegetarians, especially.

908
00:46:45,573 --> 00:46:47,973
Speaker 18: My wife's a veggie side So that's why.

909
00:46:51,333 --> 00:46:53,933
Speaker 2: You have cooked for some really famous faces. Haven't you

910
00:46:54,453 --> 00:46:57,093
Speaker 2: were you just seventeen when you cooked for Muhammad Ali?

911
00:46:57,173 --> 00:46:59,093
Speaker 18: I think I was about a seventeen eighteen.

912
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Speaker 5: Yes.

913
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Speaker 18: Basically I had to do a party for Muhammad Ali

914
00:47:04,533 --> 00:47:07,733
Speaker 18: and he arrived around twenty minutes twenty five minutes before

915
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Speaker 18: his guests. I was a spotty teenager. It was two

916
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Speaker 18: o'clock in the morning because it was after an event,

917
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Speaker 18: and he talked to me for twenty minutes like he

918
00:47:20,613 --> 00:47:22,453
Speaker 18: didn't know me from a barus soap. But he was

919
00:47:22,533 --> 00:47:25,973
Speaker 18: so gracious and so considerate. And then when his guests came,

920
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Speaker 18: you know, he entertained them. The next morning when I

921
00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:32,933
Speaker 18: came in, there was a week's wages, which is about

922
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Speaker 18: sixty dollars at the time, waiting for me as a tip. Now,

923
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Speaker 18: it was definitely not about the tip, but how gracious

924
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Speaker 18: a man.

925
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, what is there more pressure on you

926
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Speaker 2: when you are cooking for presidents and rock stars and things?

927
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Speaker 18: Actually not really, because I looked after Brad Pitt for

928
00:47:53,453 --> 00:47:57,013
Speaker 18: a couple of months and in London when he was

929
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Speaker 18: making a movie. And you know what, most people, the

930
00:48:00,853 --> 00:48:05,213
Speaker 18: stars themselves, are absolutely brilliant. The pains in the neck

931
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Speaker 18: are all around.

932
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Speaker 2: Ah right, yeah, my goodness me right, it's interesting.

933
00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:17,013
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, give an idea. We looked after Ricky Martin.

934
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Speaker 18: He was a big star in the nineties and early

935
00:48:19,773 --> 00:48:23,213
Speaker 18: two thousands, massive star, and all he liked was fried

936
00:48:23,293 --> 00:48:27,893
Speaker 18: chicken and a salad night after night after night, fried

937
00:48:27,973 --> 00:48:30,493
Speaker 18: chicken and a salad like any chef can do that

938
00:48:30,613 --> 00:48:33,373
Speaker 18: with their eyes closed, so simple.

939
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Speaker 2: I was wondering whether they're actually interested in food or

940
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Speaker 2: is it more about do they have quite specific dietary requirements?

941
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Speaker 18: Very often yes, you get what's called the treatment, which

942
00:48:44,333 --> 00:48:45,613
Speaker 18: is a book of what they like and what they

943
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Speaker 18: don't like, and if there's any allergies, like where's King

944
00:48:50,093 --> 00:48:54,173
Speaker 18: Charles really no seafood because you can get you know,

945
00:48:54,253 --> 00:48:56,413
Speaker 18: he feels when he's traveling and doing things, he can

946
00:48:56,493 --> 00:49:00,853
Speaker 18: become sick more easily with fish and seafood. But then

947
00:49:01,413 --> 00:49:04,613
Speaker 18: you know, looking after Michael Jackson, you actually got the

948
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Speaker 18: recipes as well actual in ingredients, so it was like

949
00:49:08,133 --> 00:49:09,093
Speaker 18: cooking by numbers.

950
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, who seem to cooked for everybody? If

951
00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:14,853
Speaker 2: you could cook for someone today, who would you love

952
00:49:14,893 --> 00:49:15,613
Speaker 2: to be able to cook for?

953
00:49:16,293 --> 00:49:16,453
Speaker 8: Oh?

954
00:49:16,653 --> 00:49:18,933
Speaker 18: Good good. I have not been asked that.

955
00:49:19,493 --> 00:49:21,853
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about it because I suppose you actually

956
00:49:21,893 --> 00:49:24,733
Speaker 2: do want to cook for somebody who has an appreciation

957
00:49:24,853 --> 00:49:27,333
Speaker 2: for food, right, who loves it? Who would be who

958
00:49:27,413 --> 00:49:30,053
Speaker 2: wants to kind of be blown away rather than I

959
00:49:30,173 --> 00:49:32,013
Speaker 2: love that the fried chick.

960
00:49:33,493 --> 00:49:36,613
Speaker 18: I think who I'd like to cook for? And I

961
00:49:36,693 --> 00:49:38,373
Speaker 18: haven't done it. Yet I'd love to go down to

962
00:49:38,453 --> 00:49:43,213
Speaker 18: City Mission one Christmas and do the big meal there

963
00:49:43,493 --> 00:49:48,093
Speaker 18: and help with that, purely because Christmas is like and

964
00:49:48,333 --> 00:49:50,493
Speaker 18: cooking for people is like a giant hug, and to

965
00:49:50,573 --> 00:49:52,373
Speaker 18: go and give all those people a giant hug at

966
00:49:52,453 --> 00:49:54,693
Speaker 18: Christmas time would actually be rather cool.

967
00:49:54,893 --> 00:49:56,653
Speaker 2: And I know that you do give back a lot.

968
00:49:56,733 --> 00:49:58,373
Speaker 2: Can you tell me about dynad.

969
00:49:58,413 --> 00:50:03,493
Speaker 18: Yes, donate. We work with many restaurants around the country.

970
00:50:03,813 --> 00:50:06,413
Speaker 18: I'm here in Auckland, there are many. Just go on

971
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Speaker 18: the website donate dot org dot nz and you'll see

972
00:50:10,373 --> 00:50:14,933
Speaker 18: all of the restaurants like hell Obeastie. We've got a

973
00:50:14,973 --> 00:50:20,173
Speaker 18: message the other day. They've already raised four six hundred dollars. Incredible.

974
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:23,213
Speaker 18: You go to a restaurant, there's two dollars added to

975
00:50:23,333 --> 00:50:26,573
Speaker 18: the table bill, which is paid by you, the customer,

976
00:50:26,893 --> 00:50:29,893
Speaker 18: so only two dollars per table. We've raised about one

977
00:50:29,893 --> 00:50:32,773
Speaker 18: point two million dollars and one hundred percent of the

978
00:50:32,853 --> 00:50:36,333
Speaker 18: money goes to the food banks around New Zealand, so

979
00:50:36,973 --> 00:50:41,733
Speaker 18: not one centers taken out. Everybody volunteers. Sophie Gilmour and

980
00:50:41,933 --> 00:50:48,133
Speaker 18: Lauren and Jane Torrance does the pr Everybody volunteers and

981
00:50:48,293 --> 00:50:51,613
Speaker 18: that means all the money we fundraise can actually go

982
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Speaker 18: and help people.

983
00:50:53,173 --> 00:50:55,693
Speaker 2: No, it's amazing because food and security is becoming a

984
00:50:55,773 --> 00:50:57,973
Speaker 2: real issue and we're seeing food banks really struggle at

985
00:50:57,973 --> 00:50:58,253
Speaker 2: the moment.

986
00:50:58,573 --> 00:51:01,973
Speaker 18: Well on us, you know, a serious note. I was

987
00:51:02,293 --> 00:51:05,133
Speaker 18: talking with Helen, the city missioner here in Auckland a

988
00:51:05,173 --> 00:51:07,773
Speaker 18: little while ago. We said one in five families at

989
00:51:07,813 --> 00:51:11,733
Speaker 18: the moment, one in five are struggling with low food security.

990
00:51:12,133 --> 00:51:15,373
Speaker 18: So that's a deep concern. So basically, if you're going

991
00:51:15,453 --> 00:51:17,973
Speaker 18: out have a good time, please say yes to the

992
00:51:18,013 --> 00:51:20,693
Speaker 18: two dollars at the end of the meal, add another

993
00:51:20,773 --> 00:51:23,693
Speaker 18: two dollars if you wish to, and all of that

994
00:51:23,813 --> 00:51:25,173
Speaker 18: money will go and do some good.

995
00:51:26,733 --> 00:51:29,333
Speaker 2: Now, if people can pick up the book Christmas at

996
00:51:29,373 --> 00:51:32,493
Speaker 2: the Castle Cookbook, but also you've got a series on

997
00:51:32,653 --> 00:51:34,653
Speaker 2: YouTube and new cooking series on YouTube.

998
00:51:34,733 --> 00:51:37,333
Speaker 18: Yes, I'm really happy. We only came out about a

999
00:51:37,373 --> 00:51:40,813
Speaker 18: month ago. We've just passed two hundred thousand views and

1000
00:51:40,933 --> 00:51:43,373
Speaker 18: next year it's already been picked up by Apple TV

1001
00:51:43,613 --> 00:51:46,213
Speaker 18: and Amazon. So it's all It's called Christmas at the

1002
00:51:46,253 --> 00:51:50,573
Speaker 18: Castle and we've done eight programs. There's Annabelle White, there's

1003
00:51:50,573 --> 00:51:53,213
Speaker 18: a friend of mine, Oliver Maurice who cooks on movies,

1004
00:51:53,293 --> 00:51:56,013
Speaker 18: and my daughter and Elise who's quite a well known chef.

1005
00:51:56,213 --> 00:51:59,653
Speaker 18: Yes overseas. So we've done a series all about Christmas.

1006
00:51:59,893 --> 00:52:02,013
Speaker 18: Is the same as the book. We make something lovely

1007
00:52:02,093 --> 00:52:04,133
Speaker 18: to eat, we make a gift, and then we play

1008
00:52:04,173 --> 00:52:06,093
Speaker 18: a game at the end of each program.

1009
00:52:06,373 --> 00:52:08,573
Speaker 2: I love it, really nice to meet you and thank

1010
00:52:08,573 --> 00:52:10,133
Speaker 2: you very much for the goodies that you brought me

1011
00:52:10,213 --> 00:52:13,013
Speaker 2: as well. That was very kind of you. I feel

1012
00:52:13,053 --> 00:52:15,213
Speaker 2: like I feel like Christmas is really coming now.

1013
00:52:15,333 --> 00:52:18,053
Speaker 18: Mark well ho ho ho, hold on to your Santa Hat.

1014
00:52:19,093 --> 00:52:22,413
Speaker 2: Marke Gregory, thank you so much. It is twenty past

1015
00:52:22,493 --> 00:52:25,013
Speaker 2: Tenure with News Talks eb start.

1016
00:52:24,813 --> 00:52:26,253
Speaker 4: Your weekend off in style.

1017
00:52:26,533 --> 00:52:30,013
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and bpuret dot cote on

1018
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1019
00:52:34,253 --> 00:52:37,493
Speaker 2: Holidays are almost upon us and I'm sure one I'll

1020
00:52:37,573 --> 00:52:39,893
Speaker 2: have a little bit more time to catch up on

1021
00:52:40,053 --> 00:52:43,413
Speaker 2: some viewings. Satara Award is worth us now with some

1022
00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:46,133
Speaker 2: great selections of shows that are coming out over the

1023
00:52:46,173 --> 00:52:48,573
Speaker 2: holidays that you might want to catch. Good Morning, Tara,

1024
00:52:49,173 --> 00:52:53,173
Speaker 2: Good morning Okay for those brave enough, Squid Games back

1025
00:52:53,573 --> 00:52:55,893
Speaker 2: part two, Yes.

1026
00:52:55,933 --> 00:52:58,893
Speaker 11: Squad Game one of Netflix's biggest shows.

1027
00:52:58,973 --> 00:53:02,013
Speaker 17: Season one came out in twenty twenty one and instantly

1028
00:53:02,093 --> 00:53:04,893
Speaker 17: broke all sorts of records. It was Netflix's most watch

1029
00:53:04,933 --> 00:53:08,093
Speaker 17: show ever for a while three years. The second season

1030
00:53:08,173 --> 00:53:11,413
Speaker 17: of Squid Game drops on Netflix on Boxing Day. And

1031
00:53:11,533 --> 00:53:14,053
Speaker 17: this is a show that deserves the hype. It's a

1032
00:53:14,173 --> 00:53:17,973
Speaker 17: Korean show, it's a thriller, it's dystopian, it's a satire

1033
00:53:18,013 --> 00:53:21,533
Speaker 17: as well. It's about one man who, in an effort

1034
00:53:21,613 --> 00:53:24,973
Speaker 17: to pay off as gambling debts, enters this secret competition

1035
00:53:25,133 --> 00:53:28,173
Speaker 17: with four hundred and fifty five other desperate people to

1036
00:53:28,293 --> 00:53:31,893
Speaker 17: win a billion dollar prize. And the contest is made

1037
00:53:31,933 --> 00:53:35,533
Speaker 17: up of a series of children's games, which seem pretty easy,

1038
00:53:35,893 --> 00:53:38,093
Speaker 17: but there is a very big catch, and that's if

1039
00:53:38,133 --> 00:53:41,613
Speaker 17: you lose a game, you die, So it's all or nothing.

1040
00:53:42,293 --> 00:53:44,773
Speaker 17: But what makes this show so watchable is that, on

1041
00:53:44,933 --> 00:53:46,973
Speaker 17: one hand, as you say, you've got to be quite

1042
00:53:47,053 --> 00:53:49,653
Speaker 17: brave to watch this, it's quite bleak, it is violent,

1043
00:53:50,453 --> 00:53:52,933
Speaker 17: but on the other there's a really dark humor to it,

1044
00:53:53,293 --> 00:53:56,693
Speaker 17: and it's a beautiful show to watch. There's really vivid

1045
00:53:56,773 --> 00:53:59,013
Speaker 17: colors and design here. It all feels a bit like

1046
00:53:59,093 --> 00:54:02,573
Speaker 17: a beautiful nightmare. So season one is on Netflix now,

1047
00:54:02,653 --> 00:54:04,853
Speaker 17: And if you haven't seen it yet and you're looking

1048
00:54:04,973 --> 00:54:08,613
Speaker 17: for a show that will continually surprise you, that is

1049
00:54:08,653 --> 00:54:12,053
Speaker 17: a bit twisted, a bit mind bending, and will stay

1050
00:54:12,133 --> 00:54:15,213
Speaker 17: with you after you watch it, this is a great option.

1051
00:54:15,333 --> 00:54:17,813
Speaker 17: And as I say, season two drops on December twenty

1052
00:54:17,853 --> 00:54:20,173
Speaker 17: six and I expect it to break all sorts of

1053
00:54:20,253 --> 00:54:21,213
Speaker 17: records straight away.

1054
00:54:21,293 --> 00:54:21,453
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1055
00:54:21,493 --> 00:54:23,333
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've had a bit of a disappointing Christmas,

1056
00:54:23,333 --> 00:54:25,053
Speaker 2: you could always watch and it might cheer you up.

1057
00:54:26,453 --> 00:54:29,013
Speaker 2: Exactly tell me about Missing You.

1058
00:54:30,693 --> 00:54:32,973
Speaker 11: So this is another new Netflix show.

1059
00:54:33,093 --> 00:54:35,693
Speaker 17: It's a mystery thriller that I'm picking will be a

1060
00:54:35,813 --> 00:54:40,213
Speaker 17: huge hit over summer. It's adapted from a Harlan Coben

1061
00:54:40,293 --> 00:54:43,213
Speaker 17: novel and back in twenty eighteen, Harlan Coben signed a

1062
00:54:43,253 --> 00:54:46,333
Speaker 17: deal with Netflix to adapt fourteen of his books into

1063
00:54:46,533 --> 00:54:49,893
Speaker 17: TV shows, and every time a new one pops up,

1064
00:54:49,973 --> 00:54:53,213
Speaker 17: they become an instant. Shows like Stay Close, or For

1065
00:54:53,453 --> 00:54:56,333
Speaker 17: Me Once or The Stranger. They are dramas that are

1066
00:54:56,373 --> 00:55:00,053
Speaker 17: guaranteed to be very bingeable, very glossy, a bit far

1067
00:55:00,213 --> 00:55:04,413
Speaker 17: fetched and ridiculous sometimes but very very watchable. And Missing

1068
00:55:04,493 --> 00:55:07,173
Speaker 17: You is a British show. It's about it detective whose

1069
00:55:07,253 --> 00:55:10,453
Speaker 17: fiance has been missing for eleven years and one day

1070
00:55:10,533 --> 00:55:14,133
Speaker 17: she's swiping through a dating app and she sees her

1071
00:55:14,573 --> 00:55:18,173
Speaker 17: presumably dead fiance on there and suddenly everything she thought

1072
00:55:18,693 --> 00:55:21,053
Speaker 17: was true and solid has now been questioned.

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Speaker 11: And this drops on Newye's.

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Speaker 17: Day and I think this will be the perfect show

1075
00:55:25,773 --> 00:55:27,933
Speaker 17: to watch if you are planning a lazy day on

1076
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Speaker 17: the couch in the new year. The cast includes James

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00:55:30,533 --> 00:55:33,653
Speaker 17: Nesbit and Lenny Henry, so there's lots of recognizable great

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00:55:33,933 --> 00:55:37,213
Speaker 17: talent inness. It will have lots of twists and turns,

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00:55:37,413 --> 00:55:41,733
Speaker 17: lots of secrets, lots of shady characters. It's just pure

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00:55:41,893 --> 00:55:44,173
Speaker 17: entertainment for the holidays. It will pull you in and

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00:55:44,293 --> 00:55:45,773
Speaker 17: you won't have to think too hard about it.

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Speaker 2: Perfect for the first of January. And one of the

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00:55:49,173 --> 00:55:52,493
Speaker 2: most beloved British sitcoms is back again.

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Speaker 17: I know, I'm so excited about this one. This is

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00:55:55,613 --> 00:55:58,933
Speaker 17: Gavin as Stacy the finale. It's the much anticipated return.

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00:55:59,453 --> 00:56:02,653
Speaker 17: This show first premiere twenty years ago, which made me

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00:56:02,693 --> 00:56:05,453
Speaker 17: feel very very old when I realized that. But this

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00:56:05,653 --> 00:56:08,773
Speaker 17: is the common written and created by James Corden and

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00:56:08,853 --> 00:56:12,293
Speaker 17: Ruth Jones, It's very warm and light and it's about

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00:56:12,333 --> 00:56:13,453
Speaker 17: two twenty somethings.

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00:56:13,933 --> 00:56:16,293
Speaker 11: Gavin is from Essex, Stacy is from Wales.

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00:56:16,373 --> 00:56:18,933
Speaker 17: They have a whirlwind romance and get married and the

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00:56:19,013 --> 00:56:21,173
Speaker 17: show is about how they bring their two very different

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00:56:21,293 --> 00:56:24,613
Speaker 17: family and friends together. And since the show ended, there's

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00:56:24,653 --> 00:56:26,733
Speaker 17: always been a lot of demand from fans that they

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00:56:26,813 --> 00:56:30,133
Speaker 17: bring the show back to find out where these characters

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00:56:30,253 --> 00:56:31,133
Speaker 17: ended up, to tie.

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00:56:31,053 --> 00:56:34,293
Speaker 11: Up all the Lucians. And so the final ever.

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00:56:34,253 --> 00:56:36,973
Speaker 17: Episode of Gavin and Stacey drops on Boxing Day on

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Speaker 17: TVNZ Plus and TV and C two.

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00:56:39,973 --> 00:56:42,693
Speaker 11: It's a one off Christmas special that will close the

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00:56:42,773 --> 00:56:44,333
Speaker 11: chapter on Gavin and Stacey for good.

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Speaker 17: And you know, it's always a bit of a risk

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00:56:47,053 --> 00:56:49,293
Speaker 17: to reboot a show like this after several years, you know,

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00:56:49,413 --> 00:56:52,133
Speaker 17: one that is so loved it can be hard to

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Speaker 17: replicate that original magic and a reboot, but I have

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00:56:55,733 --> 00:56:58,493
Speaker 17: really high hopes for this one. TVNZ also has the

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00:56:58,573 --> 00:57:01,533
Speaker 17: original series of Gavin and Stacey. It's such a delightful

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00:57:01,573 --> 00:57:03,853
Speaker 17: comedy and I'm looking forward to this one so much.

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Speaker 2: I think the last one off that they released was

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00:57:06,053 --> 00:57:08,973
Speaker 2: about or the last Christmas special was twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 2: over seventeen seventeen million people watched it in the UK.

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Speaker 2: I mean they just what is it about this particular sitcom?

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00:57:16,493 --> 00:57:18,093
Speaker 2: Why did it grab people so much?

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00:57:19,413 --> 00:57:21,653
Speaker 3: I think I think, you know, it is very warm

1116
00:57:21,773 --> 00:57:26,213
Speaker 3: and it was just about ordinary people living ordinary lives.

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00:57:26,253 --> 00:57:28,053
Speaker 11: But there was just a bit of magic to it.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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00:57:29,013 --> 00:57:33,133
Speaker 17: The cast was fantastic, The comedy is very very relatable

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00:57:33,333 --> 00:57:36,933
Speaker 17: and sweet and funny, and I think it's just one

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00:57:36,973 --> 00:57:39,413
Speaker 17: of those familiar shows that people kept going back to

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00:57:40,293 --> 00:57:44,093
Speaker 17: and identify with. And they left that twenty nineteen special

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00:57:44,213 --> 00:57:47,213
Speaker 17: on a cliffhanger, and so, I mean, great, great way

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00:57:47,253 --> 00:57:48,453
Speaker 17: of getting people invested in it.

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00:57:48,573 --> 00:57:51,093
Speaker 11: So we're finally going to see it, see what happened

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00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:51,293
Speaker 11: to it?

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00:57:51,653 --> 00:57:54,333
Speaker 2: Very excitation. Yeah, this was the show that kind of

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Speaker 2: launched James Carden. This is where I met him to

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00:57:56,733 --> 00:57:57,853
Speaker 2: have turned him into a bit of a star.

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Speaker 17: Absolute, Yeah, absolutely, it really launched him into the States.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope you know, it's the finale. Do you

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00:58:05,373 --> 00:58:06,333
Speaker 2: think it will be the finale?

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Speaker 3: They've said it as the end, so never all the

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00:58:12,773 --> 00:58:13,253
Speaker 3: loose things.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much, Tara. Thank you for your

1137
00:58:15,693 --> 00:58:18,013
Speaker 2: contribution to the show throughout the year as well. Have

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Speaker 2: a Lovely Christmas and Holiday and Your Pleasure. Those film

1139
00:58:23,053 --> 00:58:26,133
Speaker 2: those TV shows that Tara spoke about their squid game

1140
00:58:26,373 --> 00:58:29,973
Speaker 2: That's hitting Netflix on December the twenty sixth. Missing You

1141
00:58:30,253 --> 00:58:33,013
Speaker 2: is on Netflix on January first, and Gavin and Stacey

1142
00:58:33,333 --> 00:58:36,053
Speaker 2: TV and Z Plus and tv Z two nine thirty

1143
00:58:36,173 --> 00:58:39,813
Speaker 2: pm on December the twenty sixth. You're with News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekend started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

1145
00:58:47,893 --> 00:58:48,933
Speaker 1: on News Talks EDB.

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00:59:08,133 --> 00:59:10,693
Speaker 2: This is Father John Misty.

1147
00:59:10,853 --> 00:59:11,613
Speaker 4: I quite like this.

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00:59:12,533 --> 00:59:14,573
Speaker 2: Father John Misty is a musician with an eye for

1149
00:59:14,733 --> 00:59:17,333
Speaker 2: life's big topics. Likes to sing about religion and the

1150
00:59:17,413 --> 00:59:19,933
Speaker 2: self and the sheer madness of life, but he also

1151
00:59:20,093 --> 00:59:22,853
Speaker 2: enjoys sweeter themes, like he does in the song that

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00:59:22,893 --> 00:59:27,733
Speaker 2: we were Just listening to Real Love Baby. Father John

1153
00:59:27,773 --> 00:59:30,573
Speaker 2: Misty may come as no surprise it's not his real name.

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00:59:30,853 --> 00:59:33,853
Speaker 2: His name is Josh Tillman. He's rather elusive when it

1155
00:59:33,893 --> 00:59:36,413
Speaker 2: comes to public speaking, but he does let us into

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00:59:36,493 --> 00:59:41,813
Speaker 2: his thoughts through his lyrics and his new album. He

1157
00:59:41,933 --> 00:59:46,413
Speaker 2: plays something of a spiritual tourist. His sixth album has

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00:59:46,493 --> 00:59:50,853
Speaker 2: just been released under the name Father John Misty. It's

1159
00:59:50,973 --> 00:59:57,773
Speaker 2: called mahsh mash Anna. That's correct, mahshmash Anna. Took me

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Speaker 2: a while to now that. And Estelle Clifford, our wonderful

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Speaker 2: music reviewer, is going to share some more tracks and

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Speaker 2: her thoughts on the album with us just for Madame.

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Speaker 2: I'm keen to hear more from from Father John Misty.

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01:00:12,573 --> 01:00:14,013
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, a bit bit new to Father

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01:00:14,093 --> 01:00:17,773
Speaker 2: John Misty, so I'm looking forward to being educated. Hey,

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01:00:18,293 --> 01:00:20,813
Speaker 2: of course, some of you are already on holiday. Some

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01:00:20,973 --> 01:00:22,653
Speaker 2: of you may be a little bit like Libby and

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01:00:22,693 --> 01:00:25,853
Speaker 2: I are counting down to being on holiday. But heading

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01:00:25,933 --> 01:00:29,053
Speaker 2: into these summer holidays, there's just a few things that

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01:00:29,133 --> 01:00:31,813
Speaker 2: we can all do to stay safe when it comes

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01:00:31,853 --> 01:00:33,773
Speaker 2: to being in the sun, when it comes to where

1172
01:00:33,813 --> 01:00:36,093
Speaker 2: we're swimming, making sure our water quality is really good,

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01:00:36,133 --> 01:00:38,933
Speaker 2: and also that we've got really sensible food safety practices

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01:00:39,893 --> 01:00:42,093
Speaker 2: on the go as well. So doctor Brian Betty's going

1175
01:00:42,133 --> 01:00:43,653
Speaker 2: to be with us shortly, just with a little bit

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01:00:43,693 --> 01:00:46,573
Speaker 2: of a reminder as how we can stay safe and

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Speaker 2: healthy throughout this summer. Your News Talks ab it is

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01:00:50,453 --> 01:00:53,413
Speaker 2: at twenty five to eleven News Talks hereb and it's

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01:00:53,453 --> 01:00:57,053
Speaker 2: time to talk technology and joining me now is Paul Stenhouse.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning. Where are you?

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01:01:01,693 --> 01:01:02,053
Speaker 15: I'm you?

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01:01:02,253 --> 01:01:03,813
Speaker 2: You are in New York as it's snowing? Is this

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01:01:03,893 --> 01:01:04,573
Speaker 2: snow on the ground.

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01:01:05,293 --> 01:01:07,973
Speaker 19: It was trying to snow earlier today, actually, but no,

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01:01:08,173 --> 01:01:10,973
Speaker 19: it's just a little gray and cold.

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01:01:11,573 --> 01:01:13,253
Speaker 2: Okay. I was really hoping you were going to set

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01:01:13,253 --> 01:01:16,453
Speaker 2: this beautiful sort of white Christmas cut five for me.

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01:01:16,533 --> 01:01:18,173
Speaker 2: But okay, but a slash on a bit of gray.

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Speaker 5: Great.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, you're talking about something today, which it's funny

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01:01:22,813 --> 01:01:24,253
Speaker 2: you bring this up because I was sort of talking

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01:01:24,293 --> 01:01:27,053
Speaker 2: to a girlfriend about about this during the week and

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01:01:27,173 --> 01:01:29,773
Speaker 2: she'd almost been scammed and realized that probably the sensible

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01:01:29,813 --> 01:01:31,453
Speaker 2: thing to do a bit of change all her passwords,

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01:01:31,453 --> 01:01:33,293
Speaker 2: and then we can't look at each other, and we thought,

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01:01:33,933 --> 01:01:34,853
Speaker 2: it's a bit of you today.

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01:01:35,293 --> 01:01:37,653
Speaker 19: You don't don't tell me it's password one two three

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01:01:37,973 --> 01:01:41,653
Speaker 19: or one two three, four five six or thirty one

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Speaker 19: two three.

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01:01:42,253 --> 01:01:44,893
Speaker 2: Is the other pain to speak. But you know, people

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01:01:44,933 --> 01:01:46,413
Speaker 2: pick one thing and then they kind of roll with

1202
01:01:46,453 --> 01:01:48,573
Speaker 2: it across the ward, don't we It's what we do.

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01:01:48,773 --> 01:01:50,293
Speaker 2: So I like the fact you're going to kind of

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01:01:50,333 --> 01:01:53,173
Speaker 2: give us our password security one oh one lecture today

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01:01:53,213 --> 01:01:55,533
Speaker 2: because this is It's not a sixty New Year's resolution,

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01:01:55,693 --> 01:01:57,053
Speaker 2: but it is something we should all think about. I

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01:01:57,093 --> 01:01:59,653
Speaker 2: recon heading into the new years, making sure our persons

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01:01:59,653 --> 01:02:00,573
Speaker 2: are as tight as possible.

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Speaker 19: It is, and so I've been doing the show now

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Speaker 19: for seven years, and every year the end of the year,

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01:02:06,413 --> 01:02:09,613
Speaker 19: I try to implore people to take some time and

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01:02:09,773 --> 01:02:12,613
Speaker 19: change the passwords. I think it took Jack about four

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01:02:12,733 --> 01:02:15,213
Speaker 19: years to get on board, so you know you've got

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01:02:15,213 --> 01:02:19,253
Speaker 19: a few years left franchisecap, but he does now sing

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01:02:19,373 --> 01:02:22,813
Speaker 19: the praises of the password manager. Excuse me, and a

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01:02:22,893 --> 01:02:26,613
Speaker 19: password manager is fantastic. Why because you don't have to

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01:02:26,773 --> 01:02:29,893
Speaker 19: think anymore. You only have to remember one password to

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01:02:29,933 --> 01:02:33,053
Speaker 19: get into your password manager, and then it knows all

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01:02:33,133 --> 01:02:36,853
Speaker 19: of your passwords. And I can confidently say that there

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01:02:36,893 --> 01:02:39,933
Speaker 19: are only sort of two passwords I actually.

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Speaker 15: Now know by heart.

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Speaker 19: I could not tell you my banking password. I could

1223
01:02:44,773 --> 01:02:48,573
Speaker 19: not tell you my email passwords. I couldn't tell you

1224
01:02:48,813 --> 01:02:51,533
Speaker 19: passwords for all sorts of things because they're all of

1225
01:02:51,613 --> 01:02:56,053
Speaker 19: my password manager. They are very strong, they are very unique,

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01:02:56,093 --> 01:03:00,213
Speaker 19: they are absolute random letters and characters. And I strongly

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01:03:00,333 --> 01:03:03,053
Speaker 19: recommend a password manager if you're not going to go

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01:03:03,133 --> 01:03:05,613
Speaker 19: down the past word password manager road. You think that's

1229
01:03:05,613 --> 01:03:09,733
Speaker 19: a little scary, try something called a pass phrase and

1230
01:03:09,853 --> 01:03:13,853
Speaker 19: that's where you kind of string multiple words or numbers

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01:03:13,973 --> 01:03:16,773
Speaker 19: together and you can just come up with something completely

1232
01:03:16,893 --> 01:03:22,333
Speaker 19: random like green jacket, people car, you know, whatever you

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01:03:22,413 --> 01:03:25,253
Speaker 19: want to do. And something like that, though, is better

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01:03:25,333 --> 01:03:29,013
Speaker 19: than password one, two three, okay? Or you know your

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01:03:29,133 --> 01:03:31,293
Speaker 19: name or your kids' names, or your dog's name or

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01:03:31,333 --> 01:03:32,293
Speaker 19: something along those lines.

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01:03:32,413 --> 01:03:35,053
Speaker 2: If you use a password manager and it gives you

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01:03:35,173 --> 01:03:39,773
Speaker 2: this wonderful, unique, long, strong password, doesn't remember it for you?

1239
01:03:39,893 --> 01:03:41,933
Speaker 2: Is it every time you open that app on your

1240
01:03:41,973 --> 01:03:42,773
Speaker 2: phone or something?

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01:03:43,213 --> 01:03:43,373
Speaker 14: You know?

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01:03:43,453 --> 01:03:47,733
Speaker 2: How you know how your passwords remembered? Yes, well, I

1243
01:03:47,733 --> 01:03:49,733
Speaker 2: don't know if you're supposed to click remember me, but

1244
01:03:50,333 --> 01:03:52,253
Speaker 2: that's what I do. It's so it's just there for you.

1245
01:03:52,373 --> 01:03:54,733
Speaker 2: Don't have to think twice does it take? Its justrom

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01:03:55,173 --> 01:03:57,453
Speaker 2: the password manager correct.

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01:03:57,613 --> 01:03:59,853
Speaker 19: And so if you're using something like one password, which

1248
01:03:59,893 --> 01:04:03,213
Speaker 19: I use, it actually sinks across all of your devices, okay.

1249
01:04:03,293 --> 01:04:05,293
Speaker 19: And so when you click in the password box, it

1250
01:04:05,373 --> 01:04:08,293
Speaker 19: actually tries to auto fell with your username and password,

1251
01:04:08,373 --> 01:04:11,853
Speaker 19: and it's it's so easy. It really is so easy.

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01:04:11,973 --> 01:04:12,413
Speaker 3: It took me.

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01:04:12,693 --> 01:04:13,573
Speaker 15: Now if it took Jack.

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01:04:13,893 --> 01:04:14,493
Speaker 4: You know, took.

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01:04:14,373 --> 01:04:17,293
Speaker 19: Badgering Jack four years once a year. It took me

1256
01:04:17,373 --> 01:04:20,613
Speaker 19: badgering my parents for close to a decade almost weekly

1257
01:04:21,413 --> 01:04:23,773
Speaker 19: that they needed to get on board. And they have

1258
01:04:24,013 --> 01:04:27,453
Speaker 19: now and they finally trust the password manager. And they

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01:04:27,573 --> 01:04:29,693
Speaker 19: now also don't know sort of the password to their

1260
01:04:29,693 --> 01:04:31,493
Speaker 19: banking apps and things, which I think is good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I has been and I said it has

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01:04:35,653 --> 01:04:39,373
Speaker 2: one password or any other password manager like temporary gone

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01:04:39,453 --> 01:04:42,373
Speaker 2: down or there's even an issue because I could imagine

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01:04:42,373 --> 01:04:44,893
Speaker 2: that would be, you know, if you don't know any

1265
01:04:44,893 --> 01:04:46,533
Speaker 2: of the passwords problematic, that.

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01:04:46,533 --> 01:04:48,773
Speaker 15: Would be that would be bad, That would be bad,

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01:04:49,213 --> 01:04:49,733
Speaker 15: no something.

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01:04:49,853 --> 01:04:52,533
Speaker 19: So one password is the one I use, super reputable.

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Speaker 4: They've been great.

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Speaker 19: They don't know anything about your data. It's all encrypted.

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01:04:57,973 --> 01:05:00,013
Speaker 19: It's it's a pretty good service. Look, the one thing

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01:05:00,053 --> 01:05:01,853
Speaker 19: you have to know with your password manager is that

1273
01:05:02,293 --> 01:05:04,933
Speaker 19: password to get in right, And so people are like,

1274
01:05:04,973 --> 01:05:05,973
Speaker 19: oh what if I forget that?

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01:05:06,133 --> 01:05:06,773
Speaker 15: It's okay.

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01:05:06,853 --> 01:05:09,333
Speaker 19: Actually to write that password down. I know that sounds crazy,

1277
01:05:09,853 --> 01:05:12,013
Speaker 19: but if you keep that password written down, keep it

1278
01:05:12,093 --> 01:05:15,133
Speaker 19: in a safe and secure place, someone has to really

1279
01:05:15,213 --> 01:05:18,333
Speaker 19: be going to look for that password. I would much

1280
01:05:18,453 --> 01:05:22,653
Speaker 19: rather have someone like have to find my password written

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01:05:22,733 --> 01:05:25,373
Speaker 19: down in a secret place than be using the same

1282
01:05:25,453 --> 01:05:29,253
Speaker 19: passwords across all of my different digital services, because if

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01:05:29,253 --> 01:05:31,093
Speaker 19: one person gets into one of those, they can get

1284
01:05:31,133 --> 01:05:33,213
Speaker 19: into all of them, which yes, is still the case

1285
01:05:33,253 --> 01:05:35,413
Speaker 19: if they found your past we'd written down. But if

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01:05:35,453 --> 01:05:37,213
Speaker 19: you stow that away in a really safe spot, I

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01:05:37,293 --> 01:05:39,933
Speaker 19: think you're into a much better security posture.

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01:05:40,133 --> 01:05:42,093
Speaker 2: It's like when you see someone who's written the password

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01:05:42,133 --> 01:05:43,653
Speaker 2: on a poster and stuck it on the computer.

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01:05:44,773 --> 01:05:45,493
Speaker 4: Hey, look, do you know what?

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Speaker 5: That's actually not that bad.

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Speaker 19: I know that sounds crazy, it's not that bad if

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01:05:49,493 --> 01:05:51,533
Speaker 19: the passwords a good password.

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01:05:52,453 --> 01:05:54,533
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So if you don't use a password,

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01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:56,973
Speaker 2: blow your mind now you are. So if you don't

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01:05:57,053 --> 01:05:59,373
Speaker 2: use the pass we've managed, you've got to make sure

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01:05:59,413 --> 01:06:04,133
Speaker 2: you've got different passwords for different accounts. You strong passwords,

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01:06:05,373 --> 01:06:12,373
Speaker 2: put you know, advantage of the multi factor authenticate authenticication, authentication.

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Speaker 2: I can't say that rude?

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01:06:13,693 --> 01:06:14,573
Speaker 4: Can I say one thing?

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01:06:14,653 --> 01:06:14,813
Speaker 3: Though?

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01:06:14,933 --> 01:06:17,293
Speaker 19: Here's here's my one piece of advice. If you update,

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01:06:18,533 --> 01:06:20,613
Speaker 19: I kind of think my passwords and tears. So if

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01:06:20,653 --> 01:06:24,013
Speaker 19: you update one part of today, make it your banking password,

1305
01:06:24,053 --> 01:06:26,493
Speaker 19: because that one really matters and make sure your email

1306
01:06:26,533 --> 01:06:29,653
Speaker 19: passwords strong because that's tied to probably everything. And then

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01:06:29,693 --> 01:06:31,573
Speaker 19: if you end up using the same password on you know,

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01:06:31,653 --> 01:06:35,533
Speaker 19: you're random Woolworth shopping and your whatever. Okay, that's maybe okay,

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01:06:35,733 --> 01:06:37,373
Speaker 19: but don't use it the same one as your bank.

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Speaker 2: Paul. I'm going to make your day. The only two

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01:06:40,133 --> 01:06:42,813
Speaker 2: have changed the same, my email and my bank. I've

1312
01:06:42,933 --> 01:06:43,213
Speaker 2: done that.

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Speaker 12: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Good Merry Christmas, Paul. Thanks so much for your time today.

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Speaker 2: Love you to talk to you.

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Speaker 14: Oh, there we go.

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01:06:50,533 --> 01:06:52,533
Speaker 2: Normally I get Normally I do get a lecture about

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01:06:52,533 --> 01:06:54,573
Speaker 2: things like that, but I can actually sort of cruise

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01:06:54,573 --> 01:06:56,773
Speaker 2: towards the end of the feeling quite good about that.

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Speaker 2: Not Brian Beatty is with us. Next with Health that

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01:07:00,053 --> 01:07:01,773
Speaker 2: is seventeen to eleven, a little bit of.

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01:07:01,773 --> 01:07:02,853
Speaker 4: Way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and dot

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Speaker 1: co dot for high quality supplements use talk ZMB.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now is doctor Brian Betty.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Brian, Oh, good morning, Processkin.

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Speaker 4: Nice to be here now.

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Speaker 2: This time of the year, we're all thinking about putting

1329
01:07:19,893 --> 01:07:22,813
Speaker 2: our feet up and relaxing, but there's still a few

1330
01:07:22,973 --> 01:07:24,813
Speaker 2: things we've got to have in the back of our minds,

1331
01:07:24,893 --> 01:07:27,093
Speaker 2: don't we when it comes to being say, healthy and

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01:07:27,213 --> 01:07:28,213
Speaker 2: safe over the summer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Look, I think there's some basic things we need to

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01:07:31,173 --> 01:07:32,133
Speaker 12: start to think about.

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Speaker 20: You know.

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Speaker 12: One's the sun. I think the second thing is water. Well,

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Speaker 12: I mean we often think of swimming and things and

1339
01:07:37,933 --> 01:07:40,253
Speaker 12: swimming and water, but I think we need to think

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01:07:40,293 --> 01:07:43,893
Speaker 12: about water quality and water safety. And the third thing

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01:07:43,933 --> 01:07:46,973
Speaker 12: I think is food. Food is really really important over summer.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with sun, shall we.

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01:07:49,653 --> 01:07:49,893
Speaker 20: Yeah.

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01:07:50,053 --> 01:07:52,773
Speaker 12: Look, sun is one of the big big benefits of summer.

1345
01:07:52,853 --> 01:07:55,053
Speaker 12: We all know that it's great for the outdoors. We

1346
01:07:55,333 --> 01:07:58,733
Speaker 12: know that the sun is beneficial and improves mood, It

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01:07:58,893 --> 01:08:01,653
Speaker 12: gives us vitamin D which strengthens our bones, and has

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01:08:01,773 --> 01:08:06,093
Speaker 12: all these positives. However, one of our biggest dangers during

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01:08:06,173 --> 01:08:09,653
Speaker 12: summer is actually the sun and that sunburn. We have

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01:08:10,133 --> 01:08:12,813
Speaker 12: very very harsh sun in New Zealand with lots of

1351
01:08:12,973 --> 01:08:15,653
Speaker 12: UV light. Now, the problem with that is we have

1352
01:08:15,813 --> 01:08:19,253
Speaker 12: one of the highest rates of skin cancer, in particular

1353
01:08:19,373 --> 01:08:22,733
Speaker 12: melanoma in the world. So there's about six thousand cases

1354
01:08:22,773 --> 01:08:27,453
Speaker 12: of melanoma in New Zealand per year and that comes

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01:08:27,613 --> 01:08:30,733
Speaker 12: from one thing, and one thing in particular and that sunburn.

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01:08:31,453 --> 01:08:34,853
Speaker 12: So it's really really important we start to think about

1357
01:08:34,933 --> 01:08:38,133
Speaker 12: the sun and we think about in particular protecting ourselves

1358
01:08:38,213 --> 01:08:43,213
Speaker 12: against sunburn during summer. Now, obviously the slip slop slap

1359
01:08:43,333 --> 01:08:45,493
Speaker 12: is a thing that's out there and that really still

1360
01:08:45,573 --> 01:08:49,013
Speaker 12: does sitsand so we need to think about sunblock, loose,

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01:08:49,133 --> 01:08:54,173
Speaker 12: long sleeves, long sleeve clothing, wearing hats, and for children

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01:08:54,253 --> 01:08:57,893
Speaker 12: at the beach in particular, rash tops really really important

1363
01:08:57,893 --> 01:09:02,293
Speaker 12: to protect their very vulnerable young skin. And just one

1364
01:09:02,413 --> 01:09:06,013
Speaker 12: thing to note, cloudy days won't protect you against the sun.

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01:09:06,453 --> 01:09:08,893
Speaker 12: Some of the worst sunburn I sea as people have

1366
01:09:08,973 --> 01:09:12,453
Speaker 12: been out during a cloudy day, it tends to intensify

1367
01:09:12,533 --> 01:09:15,653
Speaker 12: the UV light. So just be careful, so avoid been

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01:09:15,733 --> 01:09:16,693
Speaker 12: burnt during summer.

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Speaker 2: I think I learned that the hard way. Unfortunately, talking

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Speaker 2: about water quality, it's a really good thought because often

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01:09:24,333 --> 01:09:25,893
Speaker 2: we just tend to think we see a bit of

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01:09:25,933 --> 01:09:28,053
Speaker 2: water and we just jump on in, don't we.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, look, yeah exactly. And again, you want to

1374
01:09:32,093 --> 01:09:33,733
Speaker 12: swim in rivers, you want to go to the beach,

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01:09:33,813 --> 01:09:36,013
Speaker 12: and it's a great part of summer, and we talk

1376
01:09:36,093 --> 01:09:40,093
Speaker 12: about water safety, but we often don't talk about water quality.

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01:09:40,813 --> 01:09:43,573
Speaker 12: So there is a hidden risk that occurs in our

1378
01:09:43,613 --> 01:09:45,613
Speaker 12: beaches and our rivers and our lakes that we need

1379
01:09:45,693 --> 01:09:50,173
Speaker 12: to think about, and that's contaminated water. Now contaminated water.

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01:09:50,693 --> 01:09:52,933
Speaker 12: Regardless of what we do, if we go swimming, it's

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01:09:53,013 --> 01:09:55,973
Speaker 12: quite likely will ingest a small amount of water into

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01:09:56,013 --> 01:09:59,893
Speaker 12: the body. Now, if it's contaminated with bacteria, that can

1383
01:09:59,933 --> 01:10:02,813
Speaker 12: give us tummy bugs and the dreaded vomiting and diarrhea

1384
01:10:02,893 --> 01:10:05,773
Speaker 12: that everyone talks about. So it can come from where

1385
01:10:05,813 --> 01:10:08,053
Speaker 12: we swim. So we do need to watch out for it,

1386
01:10:08,133 --> 01:10:10,933
Speaker 12: and we do need to be slightly careful. So a

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01:10:11,093 --> 01:10:14,893
Speaker 12: couple of the simple things to do is generally, as

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01:10:14,933 --> 01:10:18,653
Speaker 12: a general rule, if there's been very heavy rain, avoids

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01:10:18,813 --> 01:10:23,413
Speaker 12: swimming in beaches or rivers because what tends to happen

1390
01:10:23,493 --> 01:10:26,053
Speaker 12: in heavy rain is storm water tends to overflow and

1391
01:10:26,173 --> 01:10:28,693
Speaker 12: mix a little bit with serage and that tends to

1392
01:10:28,813 --> 01:10:31,253
Speaker 12: run off into rivers and things. So very heavy rain

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01:10:31,373 --> 01:10:34,013
Speaker 12: is something to watch out for. Look for the signs.

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01:10:34,093 --> 01:10:36,173
Speaker 12: Often the council will put up the signs saying do

1395
01:10:36,293 --> 01:10:38,573
Speaker 12: not swim at the beach, and there's a reason for this.

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01:10:38,733 --> 01:10:42,053
Speaker 12: So if you see the sign, don't swim it means

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01:10:42,133 --> 01:10:44,613
Speaker 12: the water is contaminated and there's a high risk of

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01:10:44,693 --> 01:10:48,733
Speaker 12: developing sort of a tummy bug. Look watch out for strange,

1399
01:10:48,813 --> 01:10:51,733
Speaker 12: strange smells, those sort of sulfur type smells that we

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01:10:51,813 --> 01:10:55,893
Speaker 12: sometimes see around rivers. Discolouration can be another sign of

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01:10:56,053 --> 01:11:00,453
Speaker 12: heavy runoff. And just avoid areas around pipes or colvets

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01:11:00,453 --> 01:11:03,933
Speaker 12: where stormwater draine could be running into the beach or rivers.

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01:11:04,413 --> 01:11:06,893
Speaker 12: So just some very very simple things to think about

1404
01:11:07,093 --> 01:11:08,253
Speaker 12: to keep safe in the water.

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01:11:08,613 --> 01:11:10,573
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm in the Auckland area, so I use the

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01:11:10,653 --> 01:11:12,773
Speaker 2: swim Safe website which is fantastic and I know a

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01:11:12,813 --> 01:11:16,853
Speaker 2: lot of regions will have something similar. Also really important, Brian,

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01:11:17,013 --> 01:11:19,333
Speaker 2: is to keep our food safe over summer, especially in

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01:11:19,413 --> 01:11:19,733
Speaker 2: the heat.

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01:11:20,613 --> 01:11:23,493
Speaker 12: Yeah, look the heat we know, and food that that's

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01:11:23,613 --> 01:11:26,213
Speaker 12: kept warm or left on the bench and that's sort

1412
01:11:26,213 --> 01:11:29,613
Speaker 12: of hot and things, it can create an environment that's

1413
01:11:29,773 --> 01:11:32,453
Speaker 12: really really good for bacteria to sort of multiply and

1414
01:11:33,573 --> 01:11:35,453
Speaker 12: sort of sort of start to take over the food,

1415
01:11:35,533 --> 01:11:37,773
Speaker 12: and if we eat that food again, we can become

1416
01:11:38,133 --> 01:11:42,413
Speaker 12: very very unwell. So there's generally considered to be what's

1417
01:11:42,493 --> 01:11:47,013
Speaker 12: called the four seas that's clean, cook cover and chill,

1418
01:11:47,293 --> 01:11:50,613
Speaker 12: so well worth remembering that, and that's the type of

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01:11:50,973 --> 01:11:53,813
Speaker 12: thinking that will protect us and protect our food over

1420
01:11:53,853 --> 01:11:57,253
Speaker 12: the summer days. So some general rules of thumb, you know,

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01:11:57,693 --> 01:12:01,333
Speaker 12: keep your hands and surfaces clean, wipe them pretty frequently,

1422
01:12:01,973 --> 01:12:05,253
Speaker 12: rinse your fruit and vegetables, and for goodness sake, just

1423
01:12:05,533 --> 01:12:07,933
Speaker 12: wash your hands up to go into the toilet. It's

1424
01:12:07,973 --> 01:12:10,253
Speaker 12: one of the big big areas where you get contamination

1425
01:12:10,413 --> 01:12:12,813
Speaker 12: is where people don't wash their hands and then then

1426
01:12:13,213 --> 01:12:17,293
Speaker 12: handle food. Now chicken in particular, which we love over

1427
01:12:17,373 --> 01:12:19,533
Speaker 12: some it is a big, big problem. It tends to

1428
01:12:20,013 --> 01:12:23,773
Speaker 12: hold some some bacteria in it, so it's really important

1429
01:12:23,893 --> 01:12:28,373
Speaker 12: to separate chicken in a separate chopping board, separate your knife,

1430
01:12:29,173 --> 01:12:31,493
Speaker 12: wash your hands after handling the chicken so you're not

1431
01:12:31,613 --> 01:12:35,613
Speaker 12: touching other foods, and make sure it's cooked right through.

1432
01:12:36,093 --> 01:12:41,213
Speaker 12: Undercooked chicken is a real real danger. Finally, a couple

1433
01:12:41,293 --> 01:12:44,333
Speaker 12: of things is, you know, keep your food chilled, so

1434
01:12:44,533 --> 01:12:46,493
Speaker 12: take it off and stick it in the fridge between

1435
01:12:46,533 --> 01:12:50,453
Speaker 12: two and four degrees is generally recommended. And keep it covered,

1436
01:12:50,573 --> 01:12:53,493
Speaker 12: keep it away from flies and bugs which may have contamination.

1437
01:12:53,933 --> 01:12:56,533
Speaker 12: So again those very very simple things to just try

1438
01:12:56,573 --> 01:12:59,213
Speaker 12: and keep the food safe. And prevent a sending up

1439
01:12:59,253 --> 01:13:01,893
Speaker 12: with sort of these nasty stomach bugs which can occur

1440
01:13:02,053 --> 01:13:02,573
Speaker 12: over summer.

1441
01:13:02,973 --> 01:13:05,853
Speaker 2: Doctor Brian Bet, thank you so much. Have a lovely Christmas.

1442
01:13:06,573 --> 01:13:08,493
Speaker 12: Thank you very much, and so to you. Francisca.

1443
01:13:09,013 --> 01:13:11,653
Speaker 2: It is nine to eleven News Talks a Babe on

1444
01:13:11,813 --> 01:13:15,253
Speaker 2: one gunling with Still Shop, get free accessories on selected

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01:13:15,333 --> 01:13:18,213
Speaker 2: Still tools. Good morning, route climb past.

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01:13:19,093 --> 01:13:22,013
Speaker 15: Good morning Francisco. That good. How are you very good?

1447
01:13:22,213 --> 01:13:25,013
Speaker 2: And before we start, I must say a very big

1448
01:13:25,133 --> 01:13:28,653
Speaker 2: thank you to you and King Seeds for my wildflowers

1449
01:13:28,693 --> 01:13:31,173
Speaker 2: bend because blind, because when I think what I spent

1450
01:13:31,213 --> 01:13:34,693
Speaker 2: you a couple of weeks ago, you were at King Seeds, Yeah,

1451
01:13:34,813 --> 01:13:36,893
Speaker 2: said do you know anything I checkly said Eshley, yea

1452
01:13:36,893 --> 01:13:39,653
Speaker 2: I do. And please you you sent them to me,

1453
01:13:39,773 --> 01:13:40,653
Speaker 2: So thank you both.

1454
01:13:41,493 --> 01:13:43,813
Speaker 15: These people. Yeah, they're wonderful people.

1455
01:13:43,973 --> 01:13:48,693
Speaker 2: Yeah they help us and hopefully yeah you know yeah, good, good,

1456
01:13:49,133 --> 01:13:49,733
Speaker 2: good going to do.

1457
01:13:49,813 --> 01:13:51,493
Speaker 15: This is what we do. So I've worked with these

1458
01:13:51,573 --> 01:13:54,893
Speaker 15: things with your seeds at schools to get bumble bees attracted.

1459
01:13:55,453 --> 01:13:57,413
Speaker 15: There's something I talked about to check a couple of

1460
01:13:57,453 --> 01:13:59,733
Speaker 15: weeks ago or last week, I can't even remember. And

1461
01:13:59,893 --> 01:14:03,653
Speaker 15: these people are always helping out schools and education and

1462
01:14:03,733 --> 01:14:06,293
Speaker 15: stuff like that. Projects like that, and I think it's wonderful.

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01:14:07,213 --> 01:14:08,773
Speaker 2: I did get a little carried away because it was

1464
01:14:08,813 --> 01:14:10,973
Speaker 2: a really large bag. So we're gonna have to be

1465
01:14:11,653 --> 01:14:13,453
Speaker 2: I've got to warn the gardener or the family. My

1466
01:14:13,533 --> 01:14:15,733
Speaker 2: partner bentually got to say to him, Hey, dude, a

1467
01:14:15,773 --> 01:14:17,253
Speaker 2: whole of the things popping up here and there and there,

1468
01:14:17,293 --> 01:14:20,133
Speaker 2: don't just think mounting their weeds. Just give them some

1469
01:14:20,253 --> 01:14:23,453
Speaker 2: time because I've just scattered this stuff everywhere. But Christmas

1470
01:14:23,493 --> 01:14:26,013
Speaker 2: is a really good time to be looking around our gardens.

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01:14:26,213 --> 01:14:30,373
Speaker 2: And I am quite delighted by the photos of the

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01:14:30,413 --> 01:14:31,693
Speaker 2: little owls that you sent me.

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01:14:32,653 --> 01:14:34,973
Speaker 15: It's funny that a lot of people with pet wolf

1474
01:14:35,053 --> 01:14:37,013
Speaker 15: camp on Sunday. We quite often talk about it and

1475
01:14:37,093 --> 01:14:39,493
Speaker 15: about the nest boxes, and people are really wanting to

1476
01:14:39,613 --> 01:14:42,053
Speaker 15: do these things. So what we've done is see in

1477
01:14:42,133 --> 01:14:44,173
Speaker 15: christ is we've got a little owl, which is a

1478
01:14:44,213 --> 01:14:46,933
Speaker 15: species that comes from Europe. I know it well, from

1479
01:14:46,973 --> 01:14:49,573
Speaker 15: the Netherlands, where it's called the stain owl, the stone owl,

1480
01:14:49,653 --> 01:14:52,413
Speaker 15: if you like, tiny thing, and here and there in

1481
01:14:52,493 --> 01:14:54,933
Speaker 15: the South Island. See them even during the day because

1482
01:14:54,933 --> 01:14:57,413
Speaker 15: they sit on fences sometimes watching the traffic.

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01:14:57,493 --> 01:14:57,773
Speaker 8: Go by.

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01:14:58,333 --> 01:15:00,693
Speaker 15: But anyway, that's besides them. Actually, by the way, we

1485
01:15:00,893 --> 01:15:04,853
Speaker 15: band at fourteen yesterday. Oh wow, that was at a

1486
01:15:04,853 --> 01:15:08,533
Speaker 15: little hospital at Bank. But so these guys are all

1487
01:15:08,573 --> 01:15:10,653
Speaker 15: over the place. We've got them breeding at the moment

1488
01:15:10,693 --> 01:15:13,533
Speaker 15: and some of the young ready to fledge, others still

1489
01:15:13,613 --> 01:15:16,013
Speaker 15: need a band around it. So I'm looking forward to

1490
01:15:16,133 --> 01:15:18,573
Speaker 15: that and I usually take my grandson with me, who

1491
01:15:18,693 --> 01:15:21,413
Speaker 15: was really keen to be part of that gig. He

1492
01:15:21,573 --> 01:15:25,013
Speaker 15: loves that stuff. Can you imagine those a twelve year

1493
01:15:25,053 --> 01:15:27,173
Speaker 15: old holding an owl? You know that sort of stuff.

1494
01:15:27,573 --> 01:15:31,413
Speaker 2: I'm gonna Yeah, it's just in the South Island, Yeah,

1495
01:15:31,533 --> 01:15:32,053
Speaker 2: that one is.

1496
01:15:32,213 --> 01:15:34,413
Speaker 15: But we of course you've got Ruru and you've got

1497
01:15:34,453 --> 01:15:38,333
Speaker 15: by House as well up in the north. So but anyway,

1498
01:15:38,413 --> 01:15:39,733
Speaker 15: that's one of the things I'm going to do this

1499
01:15:39,933 --> 01:15:43,453
Speaker 15: this this week actually at Christmas time. Good there you go.

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01:15:43,733 --> 01:15:45,493
Speaker 15: One example that you.

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01:15:47,493 --> 01:15:47,653
Speaker 8: Know it.

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01:15:48,333 --> 01:15:50,693
Speaker 2: There was some quite heavy snoring going on in our

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01:15:50,773 --> 01:15:53,773
Speaker 2: house early on was a Friday morning at about and

1504
01:15:53,853 --> 01:15:56,373
Speaker 2: I was wide awake and I sort of got thought,

1505
01:15:56,373 --> 01:15:57,573
Speaker 2: I'm going to get up and walk around the house.

1506
01:15:57,573 --> 01:16:00,013
Speaker 2: Cut ups, there's't it And sort of the night sky

1507
01:16:00,213 --> 01:16:02,293
Speaker 2: caught my attention and I went outside. It was about

1508
01:16:02,333 --> 01:16:05,813
Speaker 2: three am or something and gosh, really, it's a different world,

1509
01:16:05,893 --> 01:16:07,893
Speaker 2: isn't it. But because normally we're we're tacked up in

1510
01:16:07,933 --> 01:16:10,253
Speaker 2: bed and sound asleep, and I just start happy for ages,

1511
01:16:10,333 --> 01:16:13,213
Speaker 2: looking at the stars and listening to the sounds. And

1512
01:16:13,493 --> 01:16:16,293
Speaker 2: you've also got a suggestion about going out at night

1513
01:16:16,333 --> 01:16:18,413
Speaker 2: with a torch in the garden. And if you can

1514
01:16:18,653 --> 01:16:21,173
Speaker 2: use UV light and you just see the world in

1515
01:16:21,213 --> 01:16:22,333
Speaker 2: a whole different way.

1516
01:16:23,453 --> 01:16:27,413
Speaker 15: That's it. So insects see everything through you spectrums. And

1517
01:16:27,493 --> 01:16:29,933
Speaker 15: if you look at your favorite flowers and plants, you'll

1518
01:16:29,933 --> 01:16:31,893
Speaker 15: see that they are not the color you think they are.

1519
01:16:32,333 --> 01:16:36,693
Speaker 15: They are either blue or orange or yellow, whereas normally

1520
01:16:36,733 --> 01:16:39,013
Speaker 15: they're white, you know, during the day. This is what

1521
01:16:39,173 --> 01:16:41,693
Speaker 15: I mean. So I think this is something to do

1522
01:16:41,813 --> 01:16:46,133
Speaker 15: with attracting the right pollinators in the night, so that

1523
01:16:46,533 --> 01:16:49,533
Speaker 15: pollination still occurs in the night. So you don't know

1524
01:16:49,653 --> 01:16:53,253
Speaker 15: that until you start mucking around with the UV torch.

1525
01:16:53,813 --> 01:16:56,053
Speaker 15: I always say, best Christmas present ever.

1526
01:16:56,973 --> 01:16:58,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good idea. What else can you say

1527
01:16:58,933 --> 01:16:59,533
Speaker 2: with this torch?

1528
01:17:01,013 --> 01:17:01,133
Speaker 14: Oh?

1529
01:17:01,573 --> 01:17:06,133
Speaker 15: Likeens yellow lines suddenly turning orange under that light? You

1530
01:17:06,413 --> 01:17:10,493
Speaker 15: see uh white white? As I said, what the flowers

1531
01:17:10,533 --> 01:17:13,973
Speaker 15: journing purple purple blue is the color they see the

1532
01:17:14,053 --> 01:17:17,293
Speaker 15: best pollinators at night, So you get moths there, you

1533
01:17:17,413 --> 01:17:20,293
Speaker 15: get all sorts of things, and there's stuff I never

1534
01:17:20,413 --> 01:17:24,533
Speaker 15: see sometimes you know it's it's totally unexpected. But the

1535
01:17:24,653 --> 01:17:28,173
Speaker 15: best thing that I see at night is the pseudo scorpion.

1536
01:17:28,333 --> 01:17:31,253
Speaker 15: We have scorpions in New Zealand that are tiny and

1537
01:17:31,413 --> 01:17:34,333
Speaker 15: you find them sitting on burdle and things like that.

1538
01:17:34,813 --> 01:17:38,093
Speaker 15: But you see them also hanging onto the legs of flies,

1539
01:17:38,293 --> 01:17:40,133
Speaker 15: because that's how they transport themselves.

1540
01:17:40,373 --> 01:17:44,013
Speaker 2: The fly is the uber Merry Christmas Road.

1541
01:17:45,293 --> 01:17:55,093
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1545
01:18:25,733 --> 01:18:28,973
Speaker 2: I'm Francisco bod Can with you until mid day. Coming

1546
01:18:29,093 --> 01:18:31,893
Speaker 2: up this our Catherine Rains will bring us a brilliant

1547
01:18:31,933 --> 01:18:34,173
Speaker 2: selection of her favorite books from the air. It's a

1548
01:18:34,253 --> 01:18:37,053
Speaker 2: perfect list for those in need of a last minute

1549
01:18:37,093 --> 01:18:40,373
Speaker 2: gift or a great roundup of topics for your own

1550
01:18:40,613 --> 01:18:44,133
Speaker 2: next read. Also this hour, there are lots of fabulous

1551
01:18:44,173 --> 01:18:47,413
Speaker 2: things happening around the country over the holidays. Mike Gordley

1552
01:18:47,613 --> 01:18:49,453
Speaker 2: has going to take us, is going to whip us

1553
01:18:49,493 --> 01:18:52,453
Speaker 2: through a few of them which might be happening close

1554
01:18:52,533 --> 01:18:52,733
Speaker 2: to you.

1555
01:18:54,533 --> 01:18:57,733
Speaker 4: Francesca joining us.

1556
01:18:57,853 --> 01:19:01,933
Speaker 2: Now we have Kate Hall aka Ethically Kate. Good morning Kate,

1557
01:19:02,773 --> 01:19:05,493
Speaker 2: Good morning Mary, Christmas and to you too, you are

1558
01:19:05,613 --> 01:19:06,013
Speaker 2: ready to go?

1559
01:19:07,533 --> 01:19:10,733
Speaker 20: Yep, yep I am. We have pretty basic chill Christmas

1560
01:19:10,813 --> 01:19:13,533
Speaker 20: with our families, so yep, I think I'm ready.

1561
01:19:13,773 --> 01:19:14,253
Speaker 11: Well that's all.

1562
01:19:14,293 --> 01:19:15,933
Speaker 2: That's sort of the way it should be, really, isn't it.

1563
01:19:16,933 --> 01:19:20,093
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's more special the people you spend it with.

1564
01:19:20,413 --> 01:19:22,813
Speaker 20: And yeah, a lot of us will be together this

1565
01:19:22,933 --> 01:19:25,293
Speaker 20: Christmas who haven't been, so it's good.

1566
01:19:25,493 --> 01:19:27,973
Speaker 2: Oh that is wonderful to hear. And so today we're

1567
01:19:27,973 --> 01:19:30,613
Speaker 2: going to talk about being sustainable on Christmas Day and

1568
01:19:30,693 --> 01:19:32,573
Speaker 2: you've got some tips for us. And I love the

1569
01:19:32,653 --> 01:19:34,773
Speaker 2: first one because it comes with a certain amount of

1570
01:19:34,853 --> 01:19:39,213
Speaker 2: presumption to it, So I love the first thing on

1571
01:19:39,293 --> 01:19:43,333
Speaker 2: your list was bring reusable containers with you for food leftovers.

1572
01:19:43,413 --> 01:19:44,893
Speaker 2: So just put them in your car, on your bag

1573
01:19:44,973 --> 01:19:46,573
Speaker 2: and have them ready to go. But I love that.

1574
01:19:46,693 --> 01:19:49,173
Speaker 2: It's kind of like turning up mum cooks. Mum's cooking

1575
01:19:49,213 --> 01:19:53,973
Speaker 2: your mates by the way here and Michael the leftovers

1576
01:19:54,133 --> 01:19:55,973
Speaker 2: that I'd love to take time to have a boxing

1577
01:19:56,093 --> 01:19:56,653
Speaker 2: day thank you.

1578
01:19:57,773 --> 01:19:57,973
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1579
01:19:58,093 --> 01:20:01,333
Speaker 20: Well, I mean there's that element, which you know, it

1580
01:20:01,493 --> 01:20:04,373
Speaker 20: is probably coming from me as a child who will

1581
01:20:04,493 --> 01:20:08,693
Speaker 20: spend part of Christmas Day mum's house. Bus. It's also

1582
01:20:08,933 --> 01:20:13,773
Speaker 20: I've realized that sometimes the host doesn't have enough containers,

1583
01:20:13,933 --> 01:20:16,053
Speaker 20: you know, for all the different things I've made, so

1584
01:20:16,213 --> 01:20:20,413
Speaker 20: I have even brought containers with me and left them,

1585
01:20:20,493 --> 01:20:22,093
Speaker 20: you know, and just being helpful.

1586
01:20:22,373 --> 01:20:24,773
Speaker 2: Then I think you're coming from a much more generous

1587
01:20:24,813 --> 01:20:25,653
Speaker 2: place than I was.

1588
01:20:26,173 --> 01:20:30,173
Speaker 20: I mean both, it's it's yeah, it's a mixture. But

1589
01:20:30,333 --> 01:20:32,573
Speaker 20: you know, often when you leave, people go, oh, take

1590
01:20:32,613 --> 01:20:35,293
Speaker 20: this with you. Because we're talking about food based here too,

1591
01:20:35,453 --> 01:20:38,493
Speaker 20: right that. I mean, there's so much food and one household,

1592
01:20:38,573 --> 01:20:42,613
Speaker 20: everyone gathers together in one centralized place. Yeah, how is

1593
01:20:42,653 --> 01:20:45,173
Speaker 20: that food going to continue to be eaten when there

1594
01:20:45,253 --> 01:20:48,053
Speaker 20: are leftovers? Which is you know, it's such a privilege

1595
01:20:48,093 --> 01:20:50,493
Speaker 20: to have leftovers and to have all this bounty your

1596
01:20:50,533 --> 01:20:52,573
Speaker 20: food on Christmas Day, But how can we make sure

1597
01:20:52,973 --> 01:20:55,293
Speaker 20: that it doesn't just kind of rot in the back

1598
01:20:55,333 --> 01:20:58,413
Speaker 20: of someone's fridge? But you can distribute it to people

1599
01:20:58,693 --> 01:21:02,293
Speaker 20: or even there's some local like soup kitchens and community

1600
01:21:02,373 --> 01:21:05,613
Speaker 20: kitchens who could really do with that food. So bring

1601
01:21:05,773 --> 01:21:10,413
Speaker 20: your reason containers and your handbag. You're able for the

1602
01:21:10,573 --> 01:21:13,533
Speaker 20: presence or food that you're bringing to the to the

1603
01:21:13,613 --> 01:21:16,853
Speaker 20: house who's hosting. Is just such a such a key

1604
01:21:16,893 --> 01:21:19,653
Speaker 20: one of bruisb containers always come in handy.

1605
01:21:19,773 --> 01:21:22,093
Speaker 2: Well these days, you know, I very rarely go somewhere

1606
01:21:22,093 --> 01:21:25,013
Speaker 2: where I'm not contributing something. You know, we don't sort

1607
01:21:25,053 --> 01:21:26,773
Speaker 2: of you don't turn up at someone's house these days

1608
01:21:26,813 --> 01:21:29,453
Speaker 2: and expect them to have done everything. We're all everyone's

1609
01:21:29,493 --> 01:21:31,493
Speaker 2: aware of the cost of living, and we're all contributing.

1610
01:21:31,533 --> 01:21:33,053
Speaker 2: And I think, actually, to be honest with you, Kate,

1611
01:21:33,133 --> 01:21:34,853
Speaker 2: I think I do this really well. I do turn

1612
01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:37,493
Speaker 2: up with what I'm contributing in the container, which just

1613
01:21:37,613 --> 01:21:40,013
Speaker 2: happens to be perfect. When the host at the NC is, yeah,

1614
01:21:40,093 --> 01:21:41,253
Speaker 2: look do you want to take this home? Can you

1615
01:21:41,293 --> 01:21:43,573
Speaker 2: put it in your container? I go, oh, great, there we.

1616
01:21:43,653 --> 01:21:45,973
Speaker 20: Go exactly, yeah, exactly.

1617
01:21:46,253 --> 01:21:49,413
Speaker 2: So often we have those on us. A lot of

1618
01:21:49,413 --> 01:21:51,333
Speaker 2: people are traveling, of course at this time of the

1619
01:21:51,413 --> 01:21:51,973
Speaker 2: year as well.

1620
01:21:53,533 --> 01:21:56,533
Speaker 20: Yes, so obviously with transport, I know it's not feasible

1621
01:21:56,653 --> 01:21:59,093
Speaker 20: for everyone. You know, if you're if you have a

1622
01:21:59,213 --> 01:22:02,853
Speaker 20: fifty kilometer journey to get to your family on Christmas Day,

1623
01:22:03,133 --> 01:22:05,533
Speaker 20: that might be a little bit too far of a

1624
01:22:05,573 --> 01:22:09,693
Speaker 20: bike ride. But considering there's so many different ways that

1625
01:22:09,813 --> 01:22:12,733
Speaker 20: we can do our transport a little bit more sustainably,

1626
01:22:12,813 --> 01:22:14,453
Speaker 20: and that just involves a little bit more thought and

1627
01:22:14,493 --> 01:22:18,653
Speaker 20: perhaps communication with other people who are also traveling, so

1628
01:22:19,053 --> 01:22:23,333
Speaker 20: car pooling, considering best routes to take so that you're

1629
01:22:23,413 --> 01:22:28,133
Speaker 20: driving less columbuss You know, general things like making sure

1630
01:22:28,213 --> 01:22:31,933
Speaker 20: your hires are pumped up, that your car is all

1631
01:22:32,053 --> 01:22:35,173
Speaker 20: good to go and as kind of fuel efficient as possible,

1632
01:22:36,093 --> 01:22:39,133
Speaker 20: and if you can if you are close like i am,

1633
01:22:39,293 --> 01:22:42,413
Speaker 20: i live on the Hibiscus Coast and I'm pretty close

1634
01:22:42,493 --> 01:22:46,373
Speaker 20: to most of my family stops and places we have

1635
01:22:46,533 --> 01:22:50,453
Speaker 20: to go doing things like biking or yeah, asking if

1636
01:22:50,493 --> 01:22:53,173
Speaker 20: you have spare seats in your car, letting people know

1637
01:22:53,333 --> 01:22:54,853
Speaker 20: that they can hop in with you.

1638
01:22:55,653 --> 01:22:58,733
Speaker 2: I've got a teenager. I've got two teenagers, Kate, and

1639
01:22:59,053 --> 01:23:01,373
Speaker 2: the older one has his license and a car and

1640
01:23:01,493 --> 01:23:04,453
Speaker 2: things and still living at home. And it's always like

1641
01:23:04,533 --> 01:23:06,693
Speaker 2: on ourg sea there, I'll meet you there. You know,

1642
01:23:06,773 --> 01:23:09,693
Speaker 2: we're going as a family to this event. We can

1643
01:23:09,733 --> 01:23:11,373
Speaker 2: all just go in one car.

1644
01:23:12,213 --> 01:23:13,333
Speaker 20: But it's just hard day, and.

1645
01:23:15,893 --> 01:23:17,773
Speaker 2: I'll get them myself. And you're kind of going, Okay,

1646
01:23:18,013 --> 01:23:19,653
Speaker 2: let's try and think about this a little bit. In

1647
01:23:19,693 --> 01:23:22,053
Speaker 2: a bit, let's look at picture here, which.

1648
01:23:22,293 --> 01:23:26,013
Speaker 20: And it's also I think sometimes you know, I'm coming

1649
01:23:26,053 --> 01:23:28,173
Speaker 20: at it obviously from an environmental point of view to

1650
01:23:28,293 --> 01:23:32,093
Speaker 20: use less petrol, but actually petrol costs money, so it

1651
01:23:32,293 --> 01:23:35,173
Speaker 20: is good to clumb at it from a saving point

1652
01:23:35,213 --> 01:23:38,773
Speaker 20: of view too, that actually you can save by doing

1653
01:23:39,693 --> 01:23:40,693
Speaker 20: doing right by the environment.

1654
01:23:41,773 --> 01:23:44,613
Speaker 2: Now, the wrapping papers is an interesting one. I've done

1655
01:23:44,733 --> 01:23:48,053
Speaker 2: numerous different things over the year, Kate. Over the years

1656
01:23:48,253 --> 01:23:52,493
Speaker 2: I've used tea towels to wrap presence so that the

1657
01:23:52,573 --> 01:23:55,893
Speaker 2: tea towel is also a present. A great tip if

1658
01:23:55,893 --> 01:23:58,053
Speaker 2: you're if you've got a if you've got a kid

1659
01:23:58,093 --> 01:24:00,573
Speaker 2: at kindy right now, you might have a stack of

1660
01:24:00,773 --> 01:24:05,213
Speaker 2: paintings that you're your childhood at kindy, which fifty of

1661
01:24:05,293 --> 01:24:08,333
Speaker 2: pretty much the same thing on quite a large piece

1662
01:24:08,373 --> 01:24:10,453
Speaker 2: of paper, and one year I think they wrapped. I

1663
01:24:10,533 --> 01:24:12,653
Speaker 2: think I used those to wrap all my Christmas presents,

1664
01:24:12,693 --> 01:24:14,893
Speaker 2: which can be quite a useful way of perfect passing

1665
01:24:14,933 --> 01:24:21,333
Speaker 2: on a piece of hard Yeah, but we do use

1666
01:24:21,413 --> 01:24:23,093
Speaker 2: a lot of wrapping paper, don't we lift on year?

1667
01:24:23,773 --> 01:24:24,053
Speaker 7: We do?

1668
01:24:24,413 --> 01:24:26,853
Speaker 20: We do, And honestly, in my adult life, I have

1669
01:24:27,093 --> 01:24:32,333
Speaker 20: never purchased wrapping paper. So it is absolutely just like

1670
01:24:32,573 --> 01:24:36,893
Speaker 20: the examples you've said, even secondhand scarves from pop shops,

1671
01:24:37,333 --> 01:24:40,093
Speaker 20: things like that. You know, the brown paper bags that

1672
01:24:40,213 --> 01:24:42,573
Speaker 20: you've gathered far too many of because you've forgot your

1673
01:24:42,733 --> 01:24:45,853
Speaker 20: user bags at grocery stores. You can cut those up

1674
01:24:45,933 --> 01:24:49,253
Speaker 20: and turn them into really clever wrapping ideas. But also,

1675
01:24:49,613 --> 01:24:52,893
Speaker 20: and my nieces know this, and missing at Christmas, they

1676
01:24:53,813 --> 01:24:58,173
Speaker 20: make a little pile for anti kate of secondhand you know,

1677
01:24:58,333 --> 01:25:00,413
Speaker 20: or the wrapping paper they put in a pile. They

1678
01:25:00,453 --> 01:25:03,253
Speaker 20: know that it's going to be reused. So you know,

1679
01:25:03,533 --> 01:25:05,573
Speaker 20: I know, it's only a few days until Christmas, and

1680
01:25:05,693 --> 01:25:08,653
Speaker 20: so going out and getting some more to yoursels or

1681
01:25:09,013 --> 01:25:12,653
Speaker 20: sicken hand scars isn't feasible. So actually thinking about the

1682
01:25:12,733 --> 01:25:15,333
Speaker 20: wrapping pay that already does exist. It's already there, so

1683
01:25:15,613 --> 01:25:17,653
Speaker 20: how can we salvege it for the next year?

1684
01:25:17,933 --> 01:25:19,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you having to get brown those brown

1685
01:25:19,973 --> 01:25:21,813
Speaker 2: paper bags from the supermarket, get the kids to come

1686
01:25:21,853 --> 01:25:24,893
Speaker 2: on them in paint on them or something. Yeah, tie

1687
01:25:24,933 --> 01:25:26,013
Speaker 2: them up. Yeah, that's a good idea.

1688
01:25:26,133 --> 01:25:28,653
Speaker 20: Or if you don't have kids, just you know, paint yourself,

1689
01:25:28,733 --> 01:25:29,693
Speaker 20: paint on them and see.

1690
01:25:30,213 --> 01:25:30,413
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1691
01:25:33,693 --> 01:25:35,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's always good to do the arts and crafts.

1692
01:25:36,853 --> 01:25:39,333
Speaker 2: You've also got a suggestion about composting as well.

1693
01:25:40,733 --> 01:25:43,733
Speaker 20: Yes, so I know a lot of people do composts,

1694
01:25:43,773 --> 01:25:46,453
Speaker 20: which is great, but I think it is actually only

1695
01:25:46,493 --> 01:25:49,453
Speaker 20: about three percent of people in New Zealand actually have

1696
01:25:49,733 --> 01:25:55,653
Speaker 20: a home compost. So considering, especially if you aren't hosting,

1697
01:25:55,853 --> 01:25:58,253
Speaker 20: so you don't have control over where your food scraps

1698
01:25:58,253 --> 01:26:02,933
Speaker 20: are going. Considering again not being kind of the greenie

1699
01:26:02,933 --> 01:26:04,733
Speaker 20: who turns up to Christmas, but just trying to be

1700
01:26:04,853 --> 01:26:09,253
Speaker 20: helpful so that someone's rubbish blin is less stinky and

1701
01:26:09,413 --> 01:26:12,133
Speaker 20: so you can actually take home those valuable scraps to

1702
01:26:12,333 --> 01:26:16,133
Speaker 20: your to your chickens, to your home compuffs, so that

1703
01:26:16,293 --> 01:26:19,773
Speaker 20: makes soil for your garden. I often will bring a again,

1704
01:26:19,813 --> 01:26:23,093
Speaker 20: another container, just a container or sometimes a jar is

1705
01:26:23,173 --> 01:26:26,733
Speaker 20: really good because it's air tight so it can sit

1706
01:26:26,813 --> 01:26:31,733
Speaker 20: around for a while without producing any smells. So yeah,

1707
01:26:31,853 --> 01:26:34,573
Speaker 20: thinking about where will food scraps go during the day,

1708
01:26:35,293 --> 01:26:38,533
Speaker 20: and how can you best communicate that to the host

1709
01:26:38,733 --> 01:26:41,253
Speaker 20: or communicate it to guests who come into your house,

1710
01:26:41,653 --> 01:26:46,813
Speaker 20: that you have a clear compoft solution because that's you know,

1711
01:26:46,933 --> 01:26:52,173
Speaker 20: it's a huge waste source, you know, banana peels, strawberry

1712
01:26:52,213 --> 01:26:55,493
Speaker 20: tops and things like that, that we can actually dive

1713
01:26:55,573 --> 01:26:58,373
Speaker 20: it from landfill, and that's really really important to that

1714
01:26:58,933 --> 01:27:00,813
Speaker 20: we don't send it to landfill because it will not

1715
01:27:00,893 --> 01:27:01,493
Speaker 20: break down there.

1716
01:27:01,613 --> 01:27:03,293
Speaker 2: You're going to be loaded up on this bike cake

1717
01:27:04,573 --> 01:27:08,853
Speaker 2: fin Finally, though, attending events with content.

1718
01:27:09,893 --> 01:27:14,053
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think, you know, there's all these yeah, kind

1719
01:27:14,053 --> 01:27:17,093
Speaker 20: of sustainable practical tips, but I think at the end

1720
01:27:17,133 --> 01:27:20,933
Speaker 20: of the day, especially at the moment to go to

1721
01:27:20,973 --> 01:27:24,853
Speaker 20: a Christmas gathering and actually before you go, rather than

1722
01:27:25,013 --> 01:27:27,653
Speaker 20: just you're rushing around, you're trying to remember those containers

1723
01:27:27,693 --> 01:27:30,693
Speaker 20: that Kate told you to bring, the combus bucket and

1724
01:27:30,733 --> 01:27:33,493
Speaker 20: stuff like that. Actually, when you're on your bike, when

1725
01:27:33,533 --> 01:27:37,173
Speaker 20: you're in the car, when you're having a shower, doing

1726
01:27:37,213 --> 01:27:40,333
Speaker 20: your makeup before an event, thinking about what you want

1727
01:27:40,973 --> 01:27:45,933
Speaker 20: from that moment and that experience with people and with

1728
01:27:46,013 --> 01:27:48,293
Speaker 20: your friends and family. I think we just rush into

1729
01:27:48,373 --> 01:27:52,493
Speaker 20: these things and they start to feel like obligations or

1730
01:27:53,293 --> 01:27:56,573
Speaker 20: you kind of you don't remember the moments because it's

1731
01:27:56,573 --> 01:28:00,133
Speaker 20: all just goes very fast. So I just highly recommend.

1732
01:28:00,253 --> 01:28:03,453
Speaker 20: I think this is part of sustainable living is connecting

1733
01:28:03,533 --> 01:28:07,133
Speaker 20: with people and actually thinking how can I bear show up,

1734
01:28:07,333 --> 01:28:10,213
Speaker 20: how can I best be there for my family? What

1735
01:28:10,413 --> 01:28:13,333
Speaker 20: questions can I ask? Who am I gonna make an

1736
01:28:13,333 --> 01:28:16,293
Speaker 20: intentional time to talk to at this gathering? I think

1737
01:28:16,453 --> 01:28:20,853
Speaker 20: is just huge at any point, but I think now

1738
01:28:20,933 --> 01:28:22,613
Speaker 20: more than ever, I think a lot of people are

1739
01:28:22,693 --> 01:28:26,173
Speaker 20: burnt out and we can just tokenly go to these

1740
01:28:26,253 --> 01:28:29,933
Speaker 20: events and walk away that going with intent is going

1741
01:28:29,973 --> 01:28:33,053
Speaker 20: to be a much more enjoyable, connective time for everyone.

1742
01:28:33,333 --> 01:28:34,973
Speaker 2: Do you know what you've just I just feel completely

1743
01:28:35,013 --> 01:28:36,973
Speaker 2: relaxed after listen to you talk me and Kate. It's

1744
01:28:37,013 --> 01:28:41,053
Speaker 2: really sort of sort of just this sort of this

1745
01:28:41,173 --> 01:28:43,013
Speaker 2: effect on me. Adds have gone, oh yeah, this is

1746
01:28:43,053 --> 01:28:45,453
Speaker 2: something to enjoy. We're all gonna we're all going to

1747
01:28:45,493 --> 01:28:47,613
Speaker 2: get together and have this beautiful time together. Hey, thank

1748
01:28:47,653 --> 01:28:49,933
Speaker 2: you so much, have a lovely, lovely Christmas?

1749
01:28:50,613 --> 01:28:50,973
Speaker 15: You too.

1750
01:28:52,053 --> 01:28:54,933
Speaker 2: That was Kate Hall. There you can find her at Ethicley. Kate,

1751
01:28:55,213 --> 01:28:56,533
Speaker 2: did I completely relax? Isn't that?

1752
01:28:56,533 --> 01:28:57,213
Speaker 4: I want said?

1753
01:28:57,213 --> 01:29:00,013
Speaker 2: That's so true? Stop the rushing around, stop the list stop.

1754
01:29:00,093 --> 01:29:02,533
Speaker 2: Everything is going to be a really lovely time of

1755
01:29:02,573 --> 01:29:04,493
Speaker 2: the year with the people that you love most. And

1756
01:29:04,573 --> 01:29:07,053
Speaker 2: really it's as simple as that. It is eighty past

1757
01:29:07,133 --> 01:29:08,973
Speaker 2: eleven travel.

1758
01:29:08,813 --> 01:29:12,933
Speaker 1: With Windy Woo Tours, unique fully inclusive tours around the world.

1759
01:29:14,653 --> 01:29:16,653
Speaker 2: Yes, it is time to tour travel and I'm joined

1760
01:29:16,693 --> 01:29:18,893
Speaker 2: by Mike Yardly. Good morning, Good.

1761
01:29:18,773 --> 01:29:23,573
Speaker 21: Morning, Francesca. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. Are your bells jingling?

1762
01:29:28,213 --> 01:29:35,013
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't know why, It's just okay, yeah, yeah, yes,

1763
01:29:35,373 --> 01:29:37,253
Speaker 2: I don't quite know where my bells are right now.

1764
01:29:37,333 --> 01:29:40,373
Speaker 2: Actually I'm not even quite too sure what the day is,

1765
01:29:40,413 --> 01:29:44,293
Speaker 2: but we're getting there. Is Saturday, isn't it? Over the holidays,

1766
01:29:44,333 --> 01:29:46,493
Speaker 2: though clearly in need of a few days off over

1767
01:29:46,533 --> 01:29:49,013
Speaker 2: the holidays. A lot of us are staying home. I'm

1768
01:29:49,013 --> 01:29:50,973
Speaker 2: staying home a bit, but some of us are tripping

1769
01:29:51,013 --> 01:29:54,973
Speaker 2: around the country and there's all sorts of things taking place.

1770
01:29:56,613 --> 01:30:00,013
Speaker 21: Yes, there are some signature spectacles that you could actually

1771
01:30:00,173 --> 01:30:04,213
Speaker 21: thread into your domestic vacation plans the summer. Interestingly, if

1772
01:30:04,253 --> 01:30:07,893
Speaker 21: I say to you Auckland and January, chances are you'll

1773
01:30:07,973 --> 01:30:11,973
Speaker 21: think the tennis the ASB Classic. But there is actually

1774
01:30:12,013 --> 01:30:14,813
Speaker 21: another primetime sporting gig waiting in the wings, and you

1775
01:30:14,853 --> 01:30:17,893
Speaker 21: will recall earlier this year we had the dolphin related

1776
01:30:17,973 --> 01:30:23,053
Speaker 21: debacle and christ Jurge so sale GPS along awaited Auckland

1777
01:30:23,173 --> 01:30:27,093
Speaker 21: debut will row into life January eighteen and nineteen off

1778
01:30:27,133 --> 01:30:30,173
Speaker 21: Winyard Point. There's obviously a lot of vantage points around

1779
01:30:30,213 --> 01:30:33,693
Speaker 21: the harbor, but if you want prime grandstand seating, I

1780
01:30:33,813 --> 01:30:36,053
Speaker 21: checked out the website. There are still plenty of tickets

1781
01:30:36,053 --> 01:30:39,013
Speaker 21: available to get right up close to those flying f

1782
01:30:39,093 --> 01:30:40,453
Speaker 21: fifties as they do bettle.

1783
01:30:41,013 --> 01:30:42,333
Speaker 2: Do you know when you said to me, you know,

1784
01:30:42,373 --> 01:30:44,933
Speaker 2: what do you think of when I say Auckland and January?

1785
01:30:45,053 --> 01:30:48,493
Speaker 2: I just think of the nineteen eighties because what basically

1786
01:30:48,573 --> 01:30:50,133
Speaker 2: happens is everyone.

1787
01:30:49,933 --> 01:30:53,373
Speaker 5: Leaves were absolutely.

1788
01:30:52,933 --> 01:30:56,813
Speaker 2: Really that place to be, especially that sort of Christmas

1789
01:30:56,853 --> 01:30:59,453
Speaker 2: and over New Year and things like that. Everyone goes.

1790
01:30:59,773 --> 01:31:02,213
Speaker 2: You can drive anywhere and everywhere. You can kind of

1791
01:31:02,293 --> 01:31:05,573
Speaker 2: get a park reof you want. You can really make

1792
01:31:05,653 --> 01:31:12,333
Speaker 2: the most everything that Auckland has to offer with ease. Yes, no,

1793
01:31:12,613 --> 01:31:14,693
Speaker 2: but you know it is I don't I don't know

1794
01:31:14,733 --> 01:31:16,653
Speaker 2: whether people sort of think everyone sort of takes off

1795
01:31:16,693 --> 01:31:19,453
Speaker 2: the beaches or late and they don't sort of think

1796
01:31:19,453 --> 01:31:21,973
Speaker 2: about coming, but actually yes, and tennis is a great

1797
01:31:21,973 --> 01:31:23,453
Speaker 2: reason to come. I think that kicks off on the

1798
01:31:23,533 --> 01:31:25,613
Speaker 2: thirtieth and runs till the eleventh, and then we do

1799
01:31:25,813 --> 01:31:28,573
Speaker 2: have sale GP, but definitely just those if you were

1800
01:31:28,613 --> 01:31:30,653
Speaker 2: ever thinking of popping up and checking it out and

1801
01:31:31,133 --> 01:31:32,533
Speaker 2: going to the gallery and do all those sort of

1802
01:31:32,533 --> 01:31:34,693
Speaker 2: bits and pieces, it is a great time to come.

1803
01:31:34,973 --> 01:31:35,813
Speaker 14: It's fair good.

1804
01:31:36,093 --> 01:31:37,373
Speaker 5: Yeah, very good. Yeah.

1805
01:31:37,933 --> 01:31:40,013
Speaker 2: There are some other exhibitions happening in Auckland as well,

1806
01:31:40,013 --> 01:31:40,373
Speaker 2: aren't there.

1807
01:31:41,013 --> 01:31:43,133
Speaker 21: That's true, Yeah, I mean yeah, you could tie this

1808
01:31:43,253 --> 01:31:45,533
Speaker 21: in with a generary visit to the Quensity as well.

1809
01:31:45,653 --> 01:31:48,573
Speaker 21: Dinosaurs are Patagonia, which I'm sure you know about, Francesca.

1810
01:31:49,053 --> 01:31:51,613
Speaker 21: That's on at the showgrounds until the end of next month.

1811
01:31:52,053 --> 01:31:55,213
Speaker 21: The starring attraction. I really want to see this dinosaur.

1812
01:31:55,653 --> 01:32:00,613
Speaker 21: He's called Pettigo Titan, the largest dinosaur ever found. He

1813
01:32:00,773 --> 01:32:05,773
Speaker 21: weighs seventy tons, which is unbelievable, and his length has

1814
01:32:05,893 --> 01:32:09,813
Speaker 21: span thirty eight meters, which is about the length of

1815
01:32:09,933 --> 01:32:14,773
Speaker 21: three school buses. That is utterly insane. And an also museum.

1816
01:32:14,853 --> 01:32:17,893
Speaker 21: The big summer summer gig is the Sharks exhibition. It's

1817
01:32:18,093 --> 01:32:20,773
Speaker 21: just opened. I actually was chatting to some friends in

1818
01:32:20,773 --> 01:32:23,333
Speaker 21: Australia who saw this a few months ago. They reckon

1819
01:32:23,413 --> 01:32:27,453
Speaker 21: it's extraordinary. So I was created by the Australian Museum,

1820
01:32:28,293 --> 01:32:32,493
Speaker 21: very much focused on the fascinating and often misunderstood word

1821
01:32:32,533 --> 01:32:36,573
Speaker 21: of sharks. Very immersive apparently, lots of really interactive displays.

1822
01:32:37,453 --> 01:32:42,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, summer and then a shark exhibition kind

1823
01:32:42,733 --> 01:32:44,813
Speaker 2: of takes me back to the summer that I watched

1824
01:32:45,013 --> 01:32:47,693
Speaker 2: Jaws and my parents had just taken us to Australia

1825
01:32:47,733 --> 01:32:50,053
Speaker 2: for the first time to see our cousins who lived

1826
01:32:50,133 --> 01:32:52,853
Speaker 2: on the Gold Coast. And on the first night my

1827
01:32:52,933 --> 01:32:54,853
Speaker 2: cousin played Jaws and I didn't go on the water

1828
01:32:55,093 --> 01:32:58,573
Speaker 2: for two weeks. Oh we go, No, this does look

1829
01:32:58,733 --> 01:32:59,613
Speaker 2: this does look amazing.

1830
01:32:59,653 --> 01:33:02,293
Speaker 21: Though this more helped you mystify your fears.

1831
01:33:02,573 --> 01:33:04,653
Speaker 4: Apparently, well there we go perfect.

1832
01:33:04,373 --> 01:33:05,453
Speaker 15: From media Perfect.

1833
01:33:06,493 --> 01:33:08,933
Speaker 2: What if legos at your kind of thing?

1834
01:33:10,053 --> 01:33:13,693
Speaker 21: Yeah, down South and dunners to her a Otago Museum.

1835
01:33:13,733 --> 01:33:17,613
Speaker 21: It's been taken over this summer by lego minifigures. So

1836
01:33:17,813 --> 01:33:21,613
Speaker 21: the exhibition is called Relics a New World Rises and

1837
01:33:21,733 --> 01:33:26,173
Speaker 21: it was created by those Australian lego masters, Jackson Harvey

1838
01:33:26,213 --> 01:33:28,813
Speaker 21: and Alex Tower. It was a smash hit an Oz

1839
01:33:29,173 --> 01:33:31,973
Speaker 21: all sorts of really cool things, like they have repurposed

1840
01:33:32,013 --> 01:33:37,133
Speaker 21: a retro video arcade and turned it into a futuristic spaceport,

1841
01:33:37,453 --> 01:33:40,173
Speaker 21: all in Lego, so the kids will go crazy there.

1842
01:33:41,013 --> 01:33:43,973
Speaker 21: If you're in rally to Papa, they traditionally turn on

1843
01:33:44,093 --> 01:33:46,413
Speaker 21: a big summer headliner and I reckon, this is a

1844
01:33:46,453 --> 01:33:51,653
Speaker 21: bit of you, Francisca. This summer's exhibition is the premiere

1845
01:33:52,373 --> 01:33:56,253
Speaker 21: of the global tour of the then Westwood and Jewelry,

1846
01:33:56,773 --> 01:34:00,213
Speaker 21: So it's all about the extensive history of her jewelry

1847
01:34:00,333 --> 01:34:03,573
Speaker 21: design and creations, which all began back in the seventies

1848
01:34:03,933 --> 01:34:07,133
Speaker 21: with a stall at the Portobello Market in London. So yeah,

1849
01:34:07,173 --> 01:34:10,133
Speaker 21: that's on. I think it's on until April. It starts

1850
01:34:10,213 --> 01:34:11,693
Speaker 21: next month at Tapapa.

1851
01:34:11,893 --> 01:34:13,773
Speaker 2: Got a bit of time for that one. Now, at

1852
01:34:13,813 --> 01:34:15,653
Speaker 2: this time of the year, doesn't New Plymouth have a

1853
01:34:15,693 --> 01:34:16,493
Speaker 2: Festival of Lights?

1854
01:34:17,493 --> 01:34:20,853
Speaker 21: Yes, tonight the night they turn on the lights, transforming

1855
01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:25,733
Speaker 21: Poky Cuda Park into a lavishly illuminated nighttime wonderland for

1856
01:34:26,053 --> 01:34:30,213
Speaker 21: five weeks. This is apparently New Zealand's favorite and longest

1857
01:34:30,293 --> 01:34:33,773
Speaker 21: running light festival. I checked with the organizers. Over one

1858
01:34:33,933 --> 01:34:37,733
Speaker 21: hundred and fifty thousand people flock to the festival, half

1859
01:34:37,893 --> 01:34:41,573
Speaker 21: from out of town, so lots of ingenious installations, nightly

1860
01:34:41,733 --> 01:34:43,973
Speaker 21: entertainment and if you want to check out the lights

1861
01:34:44,013 --> 01:34:46,053
Speaker 21: from a different perspective, book.

1862
01:34:45,853 --> 01:34:47,493
Speaker 6: A glow row boat.

1863
01:34:48,373 --> 01:34:51,613
Speaker 21: They are wildly popular, so you want to book your

1864
01:34:51,693 --> 01:34:52,613
Speaker 21: boat in advance.

1865
01:34:53,773 --> 01:34:56,533
Speaker 2: Caroline Bay is, does it still have a speech carnival?

1866
01:34:57,413 --> 01:35:02,853
Speaker 21: Yeah, the one hundred and fourteenth edition, isn't it?

1867
01:35:03,053 --> 01:35:03,253
Speaker 11: I know?

1868
01:35:03,413 --> 01:35:05,813
Speaker 21: It kicks off on Boxing Day runs for a fortnight.

1869
01:35:06,373 --> 01:35:09,573
Speaker 21: There is a real sort of timeless, down home vibe

1870
01:35:09,933 --> 01:35:12,933
Speaker 21: to that carnival in Timadoo. Some say it's a bit hoky,

1871
01:35:13,253 --> 01:35:15,853
Speaker 21: but I reckon it's as classic as hokey pokey and

1872
01:35:16,013 --> 01:35:18,253
Speaker 21: no disrespect to some of the other beach carnivals in

1873
01:35:18,293 --> 01:35:21,333
Speaker 21: New Zealand. January four is the day for the Cooks

1874
01:35:21,373 --> 01:35:25,853
Speaker 21: Beach Carnival in Fiicianunga and also the Openaki Beach for

1875
01:35:25,973 --> 01:35:30,573
Speaker 21: Carnival and Taganaki Brant any other events to mention super quick.

1876
01:35:30,653 --> 01:35:32,893
Speaker 21: If you're on the Wild West Coast in late January,

1877
01:35:33,333 --> 01:35:36,733
Speaker 21: check out the Driftwood Festival on Hoka Tika Beach January

1878
01:35:36,773 --> 01:35:40,853
Speaker 21: twenty two. It's incredibly creative, so Basically all these competitors

1879
01:35:41,413 --> 01:35:46,213
Speaker 21: construct the most whimsical, skodful pieces. Some of them are enormous,

1880
01:35:46,573 --> 01:35:49,293
Speaker 21: all based on driftwood washed up from the Testamon Sea.

1881
01:35:49,573 --> 01:35:52,533
Speaker 21: The size and the audacity of the sculptures is so good.

1882
01:35:52,973 --> 01:35:57,013
Speaker 21: And wine time Finally, Francesca, two of our nation's very

1883
01:35:57,093 --> 01:36:00,533
Speaker 21: best wine festivals are bubbling on the horizon. So Toast

1884
01:36:00,693 --> 01:36:06,413
Speaker 21: Marsinborough returns January nineteen, and just across the Water, a

1885
01:36:06,893 --> 01:36:09,613
Speaker 21: New Zealand's longest running wine and food festival, is back

1886
01:36:10,013 --> 01:36:14,413
Speaker 21: on February eight. Blendham Accommodation Wild book out, so locking

1887
01:36:14,493 --> 01:36:17,453
Speaker 21: your plans pronto for Marlboro February.

1888
01:36:17,533 --> 01:36:18,333
Speaker 14: I lent you to do.

1889
01:36:18,493 --> 01:36:20,653
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Mike. He an lovely Christmas.

1890
01:36:21,293 --> 01:36:23,493
Speaker 21: You two friends. Yes, good, take care, take care.

1891
01:36:24,173 --> 01:36:27,133
Speaker 2: I of course there's more tips on summer attractions with

1892
01:36:27,293 --> 01:36:29,133
Speaker 2: traveling for Mike. Will have an article up on our

1893
01:36:29,173 --> 01:36:32,493
Speaker 2: website Newstalks EB dot co dot inze Ford slash Lifestyle

1894
01:36:33,013 --> 01:36:34,973
Speaker 2: slash travel twenty eight past eleven.

1895
01:36:38,613 --> 01:36:42,533
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team

1896
01:36:43,013 --> 01:36:44,053
Speaker 1: on News Talks AB.

1897
01:36:48,453 --> 01:37:00,173
Speaker 2: Everybody on the travel Coming up at midday on News

1898
01:37:00,213 --> 01:37:02,653
Speaker 2: Talks EB, we have Jason Pine with Weekend Sport, and

1899
01:37:02,733 --> 01:37:03,413
Speaker 2: he joins me now.

1900
01:37:03,373 --> 01:37:03,893
Speaker 11: In the studio.

1901
01:37:03,973 --> 01:37:06,133
Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, Good to see you've got a chair.

1902
01:37:06,373 --> 01:37:09,213
Speaker 2: If anyone was listening to Darcy Watograve's Sports Talk this morning,

1903
01:37:09,853 --> 01:37:11,253
Speaker 2: they would have known that we were doing we've been

1904
01:37:11,293 --> 01:37:13,653
Speaker 2: doing a very big end of year clean of every

1905
01:37:13,813 --> 01:37:16,493
Speaker 2: chair in the building and they took all our chairs away.

1906
01:37:16,533 --> 01:37:18,493
Speaker 2: And so you came into the studio and I just

1907
01:37:18,573 --> 01:37:21,373
Speaker 2: knelt down on your knees and to help me fortum,

1908
01:37:21,653 --> 01:37:23,133
Speaker 2: which we all took a lot of photos because we

1909
01:37:23,173 --> 01:37:25,813
Speaker 2: thought it was hilarious. But we've found you one dry chair.

1910
01:37:26,013 --> 01:37:27,333
Speaker 2: Thank you. So it's good to have you with us.

1911
01:37:27,373 --> 01:37:28,573
Speaker 2: What's coming up on the show, Well.

1912
01:37:28,453 --> 01:37:30,773
Speaker 22: We're going to answer a couple of questions. One, how

1913
01:37:30,813 --> 01:37:32,213
Speaker 22: big is this Liam Lawson news?

1914
01:37:32,333 --> 01:37:32,533
Speaker 11: For me?

1915
01:37:32,813 --> 01:37:37,093
Speaker 22: Enormous. It's the massive, just probably among the three biggest

1916
01:37:37,093 --> 01:37:39,213
Speaker 22: sports stories of this year, the fact that he's going

1917
01:37:39,253 --> 01:37:40,893
Speaker 22: to have a full time Formula One drive in twenty

1918
01:37:40,933 --> 01:37:43,653
Speaker 22: twenty five. Are going to unpack that, take a few

1919
01:37:43,733 --> 01:37:46,973
Speaker 22: calls on it, but just really celebrate this amazing news.

1920
01:37:47,733 --> 01:37:49,533
Speaker 22: And I kind of wonder, okay, if you and I

1921
01:37:49,613 --> 01:37:52,333
Speaker 22: are talking a year from now, you know, obviously our

1922
01:37:52,373 --> 01:37:54,013
Speaker 22: contracts have to be renewed. But if that is the

1923
01:37:54,093 --> 01:37:56,613
Speaker 22: case and we're talking a year from now, what will

1924
01:37:56,653 --> 01:37:58,613
Speaker 22: have had to have happened for it to be a

1925
01:37:58,613 --> 01:38:00,053
Speaker 22: successful year for Liam Lawson?

1926
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Speaker 5: Good?

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01:38:00,853 --> 01:38:03,373
Speaker 22: Yeah, And so because he's a definite number two to

1928
01:38:03,413 --> 01:38:05,773
Speaker 22: Max for Steppin in that team. So does he just

1929
01:38:05,893 --> 01:38:08,013
Speaker 22: have to do what he's told? Can he try to

1930
01:38:08,053 --> 01:38:10,493
Speaker 22: win races? Does he just have to keep his nose clean?

1931
01:38:10,533 --> 01:38:12,613
Speaker 22: All that stuff? So we'll talk about Liam Lawson and

1932
01:38:12,933 --> 01:38:15,933
Speaker 22: also the other question. Where is New Zealand's home of cricket?

1933
01:38:16,573 --> 01:38:19,173
Speaker 22: The Basement Reserve has had that kind of mantra for

1934
01:38:19,253 --> 01:38:22,813
Speaker 22: a long time, the spiritual home of cricket. A few

1935
01:38:23,253 --> 01:38:26,573
Speaker 22: pesky Cantabrians believe that Hagley Oval well it's the home

1936
01:38:26,613 --> 01:38:28,653
Speaker 22: of cricket, and I feel like you're among them.

1937
01:38:28,893 --> 01:38:31,453
Speaker 2: Well no, but when I mean, whenever I watch on

1938
01:38:31,493 --> 01:38:33,173
Speaker 2: the TV, I think the last time I watched Test

1939
01:38:33,213 --> 01:38:37,013
Speaker 2: cricket I was at the Bay Oval. Actually I can't

1940
01:38:37,013 --> 01:38:40,813
Speaker 2: remember when I last went to one in Auckland's probably forest.

1941
01:38:41,413 --> 01:38:43,493
Speaker 2: But whenever I watch on the TV, every time I

1942
01:38:43,533 --> 01:38:45,893
Speaker 2: watch when it's in christ Each, I think, how beautiful,

1943
01:38:46,173 --> 01:38:49,253
Speaker 2: what a gorgeous spot to watch cricket. What a great

1944
01:38:49,293 --> 01:38:51,613
Speaker 2: setting and I presume a pretty good wicket.

1945
01:38:51,813 --> 01:38:54,213
Speaker 22: Yeah, all those things. So and see this is the

1946
01:38:54,293 --> 01:38:57,853
Speaker 22: reason why the noise, the hubbub is rising around christ

1947
01:38:57,933 --> 01:39:00,573
Speaker 22: Church being taking that mantle. I think the basin's had

1948
01:39:00,933 --> 01:39:03,453
Speaker 22: a lot of history happen there, but that in itself

1949
01:39:03,533 --> 01:39:05,053
Speaker 22: is not enough because it can get a bit windy.

1950
01:39:05,373 --> 01:39:07,493
Speaker 2: So is the question with the future of Test cricket

1951
01:39:07,533 --> 01:39:08,013
Speaker 2: in New Zealand.

1952
01:39:08,133 --> 01:39:09,973
Speaker 22: Well, I think that could be part of the conversation. Yea,

1953
01:39:10,013 --> 01:39:11,613
Speaker 22: I think we open it up. And there's also these

1954
01:39:11,653 --> 01:39:14,653
Speaker 22: other cricket grounds around New Zealand that are wonderful places

1955
01:39:14,693 --> 01:39:16,613
Speaker 22: to watch. They'll never have a Test match because they're

1956
01:39:16,613 --> 01:39:19,973
Speaker 22: too small or whatever or napier or a book a.

1957
01:39:20,013 --> 01:39:22,133
Speaker 22: Cord A Park in New Plymouth has often talked about

1958
01:39:22,133 --> 01:39:23,453
Speaker 22: it as a wonderful place to watch a game of

1959
01:39:23,493 --> 01:39:25,493
Speaker 22: T twenty cricket. So yeah, we can we can kick

1960
01:39:25,533 --> 01:39:26,933
Speaker 22: that around all on the FC. I've got a game

1961
01:39:26,973 --> 01:39:29,733
Speaker 22: this afternoon as well. Cover that off and anything else

1962
01:39:29,773 --> 01:39:31,293
Speaker 22: that comes to mind. I feel like I'm going to

1963
01:39:31,333 --> 01:39:32,533
Speaker 22: do the duty. Like there will be a lot of

1964
01:39:32,533 --> 01:39:35,373
Speaker 22: people at Christmas shopping right see for me, just stay

1965
01:39:35,373 --> 01:39:37,813
Speaker 22: in the car, Stay in the car and just listen.

1966
01:39:37,933 --> 01:39:39,413
Speaker 22: Call up if you want to, but look, we're here

1967
01:39:39,493 --> 01:39:39,653
Speaker 22: for you.

1968
01:39:40,533 --> 01:39:40,973
Speaker 4: I love it.

1969
01:39:41,533 --> 01:39:43,333
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Jason Park will be back to

1970
01:39:43,453 --> 01:39:46,533
Speaker 2: make your afternoon of Christmas shopping and sitting in wonderful

1971
01:39:46,613 --> 01:39:50,453
Speaker 2: Christmas traffic wherever you are an enjoyable experience. It is

1972
01:39:50,533 --> 01:39:51,533
Speaker 2: twenty six to twelve.

1973
01:39:51,893 --> 01:39:54,493
Speaker 4: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

1974
01:39:54,693 --> 01:39:58,173
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepewart dot co dot nz.

1975
01:39:58,413 --> 01:40:00,813
Speaker 1: For high quality supplements use talk ZNB.

1976
01:40:02,173 --> 01:40:04,773
Speaker 2: You're with Saturday Mornings. I'm Francisca with you until mid

1977
01:40:04,853 --> 01:40:07,013
Speaker 2: day and joining me now is Catherine Rains.

1978
01:40:07,133 --> 01:40:10,253
Speaker 3: Good morning, Catherine, Good morning, Francesca.

1979
01:40:10,693 --> 01:40:13,413
Speaker 2: Good to have you with us. Now, You've got a

1980
01:40:13,533 --> 01:40:16,773
Speaker 2: wonderful list of some of your Would these be your

1981
01:40:17,013 --> 01:40:18,693
Speaker 2: sort of favorite picks from the year.

1982
01:40:20,053 --> 01:40:20,613
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think so.

1983
01:40:20,733 --> 01:40:23,013
Speaker 23: They're certainly books that have stayed with me that I've

1984
01:40:23,173 --> 01:40:25,333
Speaker 23: thought about over time. So I think that's always a

1985
01:40:25,373 --> 01:40:26,173
Speaker 23: sign of a good book.

1986
01:40:26,333 --> 01:40:28,453
Speaker 2: Well, perfect perfect timing, because of course there's a few

1987
01:40:28,453 --> 01:40:30,253
Speaker 2: people out there probably still doing a little bit of

1988
01:40:30,333 --> 01:40:32,573
Speaker 2: last minute shopping or think that today is a perfectly

1989
01:40:32,613 --> 01:40:35,333
Speaker 2: good day to start their Christmas shopping. So it's going

1990
01:40:35,333 --> 01:40:37,133
Speaker 2: together a few little ideas or if you're looking for

1991
01:40:37,173 --> 01:40:39,053
Speaker 2: a book of course to take away over the holidays,

1992
01:40:39,133 --> 01:40:42,493
Speaker 2: you've got some good suggestions for us. Should we start

1993
01:40:42,613 --> 01:40:44,293
Speaker 2: with your fiction picks?

1994
01:40:45,173 --> 01:40:47,933
Speaker 23: So first up is The Waiting by Michael Connolly, and

1995
01:40:48,773 --> 01:40:51,133
Speaker 23: when I also can write as many books as Michael

1996
01:40:51,173 --> 01:40:53,493
Speaker 23: Connolly has done, and he still keeps it fresh, and

1997
01:40:53,613 --> 01:40:57,133
Speaker 23: he continues the Bosh series, and in this Rene Ballad

1998
01:40:57,253 --> 01:40:59,053
Speaker 23: is in charge of a cold case unit, and Bosh

1999
01:40:59,093 --> 01:41:01,933
Speaker 23: has retired, but of course he occasionally helps out and now.

2000
01:41:01,853 --> 01:41:04,493
Speaker 14: His daughter Maddie is involved in volunteering at the unit.

2001
01:41:04,893 --> 01:41:07,773
Speaker 23: In the unit, and Connie is able to weave all

2002
01:41:07,813 --> 01:41:10,293
Speaker 23: sorts of things into the narrative and distinct storylines and

2003
01:41:10,373 --> 01:41:12,733
Speaker 23: develop and flesh out the characters, and he does it

2004
01:41:12,813 --> 01:41:14,813
Speaker 23: in such an interesting way that it keeps.

2005
01:41:14,653 --> 01:41:16,213
Speaker 14: You really engrossed in the series.

2006
01:41:17,533 --> 01:41:20,613
Speaker 23: And then we have intermesio Sally Rooney for something really different,

2007
01:41:20,973 --> 01:41:23,733
Speaker 23: and her writing is just superb. The way she writes

2008
01:41:23,773 --> 01:41:27,133
Speaker 23: her dialogue and her characters and the interaction between two

2009
01:41:27,213 --> 01:41:31,933
Speaker 23: people and the subtle nuances and the emotional ties between them,

2010
01:41:31,973 --> 01:41:35,133
Speaker 23: and that human interaction and the story is about brothers,

2011
01:41:35,213 --> 01:41:37,933
Speaker 23: and it brings in themes of mentality and belief and

2012
01:41:38,053 --> 01:41:40,453
Speaker 23: wants and desires and these complicated lives.

2013
01:41:40,493 --> 01:41:42,013
Speaker 14: But it's really beautifully told.

2014
01:41:42,413 --> 01:41:44,213
Speaker 2: And Graham Norton had a new book out.

2015
01:41:44,533 --> 01:41:47,093
Speaker 23: He does This is Frankie. And in this you take

2016
01:41:47,613 --> 01:41:49,693
Speaker 23: a trip with an older Frankie. She looks back on

2017
01:41:49,773 --> 01:41:52,893
Speaker 23: the significant events in her life and she's sharing her

2018
01:41:52,933 --> 01:41:56,053
Speaker 23: story with her Cara Damien. And it sets in decades

2019
01:41:56,093 --> 01:41:58,613
Speaker 23: from starts in the nineteen sixties in New York and London,

2020
01:41:58,653 --> 01:42:01,333
Speaker 23: and you kind of laugh along and cry and you

2021
01:42:01,493 --> 01:42:04,173
Speaker 23: just don't really forget the remarkable story of Frankie and

2022
01:42:04,253 --> 01:42:07,013
Speaker 23: the intrigue and it's just the stories one fe told.

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01:42:07,493 --> 01:42:07,613
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:42:07,733 --> 01:42:09,133
Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people have had this

2025
01:42:09,293 --> 01:42:11,733
Speaker 2: on their sort of best of all favorite books of

2026
01:42:11,773 --> 01:42:13,613
Speaker 2: the year list. Greg Old's Southern Man.

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01:42:14,253 --> 01:42:17,613
Speaker 23: Yeah, the story has everything in his style and his history,

2028
01:42:18,333 --> 01:42:21,733
Speaker 23: and it's set where America itself is teetering on the

2029
01:42:21,853 --> 01:42:25,493
Speaker 23: brink of anarchy, and you find yourself very drawn into

2030
01:42:25,533 --> 01:42:28,853
Speaker 23: the story. And it weaves together today's political climate and

2031
01:42:28,973 --> 01:42:32,053
Speaker 23: Civil War era slavery issues, and it is in an

2032
01:42:32,133 --> 01:42:36,053
Speaker 23: uncomfortable read, but it's a political and historical thriller that

2033
01:42:36,133 --> 01:42:39,213
Speaker 23: shines a light on corruption and race, relationships and family

2034
01:42:39,293 --> 01:42:43,093
Speaker 23: relationships and past and present, and it's a doorstop of

2035
01:42:43,133 --> 01:42:45,133
Speaker 23: a book, but I couldn't put it down. I was

2036
01:42:45,173 --> 01:42:47,013
Speaker 23: completely engrossed in the story.

2037
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Speaker 14: And his writing.

2038
01:42:47,773 --> 01:42:51,173
Speaker 2: And finally Catherine a news series from an author who

2039
01:42:51,253 --> 01:42:53,333
Speaker 2: was one of my favorite guests of the Sema Sisian

2040
01:42:53,453 --> 01:42:56,373
Speaker 2: session this year, Richard Osmond. He was just charming. I

2041
01:42:56,453 --> 01:42:57,373
Speaker 2: loved meeting him.

2042
01:42:57,733 --> 01:43:00,013
Speaker 23: And he is charming, and he's an expert at those

2043
01:43:00,133 --> 01:43:04,373
Speaker 23: k cozy crime novels. And in this se piltrays two characters,

2044
01:43:04,413 --> 01:43:07,173
Speaker 23: Steve and Amy Wheeler, and their relationship with each other

2045
01:43:07,653 --> 01:43:10,133
Speaker 23: and the interactions, and it almost makes me wish that

2046
01:43:10,213 --> 01:43:11,733
Speaker 23: I was in the story with them, apart from the

2047
01:43:11,773 --> 01:43:13,493
Speaker 23: fact that they're dealing with a dead body, a bag

2048
01:43:13,573 --> 01:43:16,373
Speaker 23: of money, and a killer. But he also tackles some

2049
01:43:16,573 --> 01:43:19,733
Speaker 23: serious topics like grief and loneliness and all along with

2050
01:43:19,853 --> 01:43:22,613
Speaker 23: his trademark humor, and it leaves you with a very

2051
01:43:22,733 --> 01:43:24,293
Speaker 23: heartwarming and charming story.

2052
01:43:24,413 --> 01:43:26,733
Speaker 14: And I don't think anyone does it better than Richard Osmond.

2053
01:43:26,853 --> 01:43:28,573
Speaker 2: No, he does it beautifully. And that book was called

2054
01:43:28,613 --> 01:43:32,133
Speaker 2: We Solve the Murders. I'm really impressed with your nonfiction

2055
01:43:32,293 --> 01:43:33,853
Speaker 2: list too. There's a few on here that I've got

2056
01:43:34,413 --> 01:43:36,373
Speaker 2: in my pile to read over the holidays.

2057
01:43:37,693 --> 01:43:38,773
Speaker 11: So first up is.

2058
01:43:38,813 --> 01:43:42,493
Speaker 23: Framed Jim mcclosby and John Grisham, And this is about

2059
01:43:42,613 --> 01:43:46,293
Speaker 23: suffering and corruption and faith and perseverance and hopefully, at

2060
01:43:46,333 --> 01:43:49,173
Speaker 23: the end of it, redemption. And it's the account of

2061
01:43:50,173 --> 01:43:53,493
Speaker 23: very real stories faced by some innocent Americans who've been

2062
01:43:54,053 --> 01:43:56,573
Speaker 23: wrongfully committed and most of these people are still in

2063
01:43:56,693 --> 01:43:59,893
Speaker 23: jail from it. And it is compelling and it makes

2064
01:43:59,933 --> 01:44:02,853
Speaker 23: you stop and think and look at that corruption and

2065
01:44:02,933 --> 01:44:06,213
Speaker 23: the racism and the misconduct and the flawed silence science

2066
01:44:06,493 --> 01:44:10,573
Speaker 23: dodgy testimony. And it's told in alternative stories by best

2067
01:44:10,573 --> 01:44:13,373
Speaker 23: selling author John Grisham and a guy called John Jim

2068
01:44:13,453 --> 01:44:16,453
Speaker 23: McCluskey who has worked for forty five years to free

2069
01:44:16,613 --> 01:44:21,333
Speaker 23: innocent people in jail. And it is harrowing, and yeah,

2070
01:44:21,413 --> 01:44:24,333
Speaker 23: it really makes you you think and take a step

2071
01:44:24,413 --> 01:44:26,733
Speaker 23: back at maybe how you can judge.

2072
01:44:26,493 --> 01:44:28,853
Speaker 14: People too quickly at times, and yeah, one of those

2073
01:44:28,893 --> 01:44:30,093
Speaker 14: things that sticks with you for a while.

2074
01:44:30,133 --> 01:44:32,573
Speaker 2: I think I've got a bit confused there with David McCloskey,

2075
01:44:32,613 --> 01:44:35,493
Speaker 2: who was the former CIA agent turned author this is

2076
01:44:35,573 --> 01:44:39,053
Speaker 2: not him. No, Jim Okay, Jim Okay, cop, What else

2077
01:44:39,053 --> 01:44:39,813
Speaker 2: have you got on your list?

2078
01:44:40,373 --> 01:44:43,173
Speaker 23: So I've got The Siege by Ben McIntyre, And this

2079
01:44:43,813 --> 01:44:47,213
Speaker 23: takes you back to nineteen eighty when sixth guvernment take

2080
01:44:47,293 --> 01:44:50,933
Speaker 23: twenty six hostages in the Iranian embassy in London, an

2081
01:44:51,133 --> 01:44:51,573
Speaker 23: event that.

2082
01:44:51,653 --> 01:44:53,213
Speaker 14: Echoes across decades.

2083
01:44:53,373 --> 01:44:57,573
Speaker 23: And he's drawn on interviews and never be seen files,

2084
01:44:57,613 --> 01:45:01,213
Speaker 23: and he constructs the six days from numerous perspectives. The

2085
01:45:01,373 --> 01:45:05,533
Speaker 23: terrorists have forced into a situation, and the essays to

2086
01:45:05,653 --> 01:45:08,333
Speaker 23: life and the profittional men doing their job to try

2087
01:45:08,373 --> 01:45:13,053
Speaker 23: and end the siege. And then really interestingly, police constable

2088
01:45:13,093 --> 01:45:15,213
Speaker 23: a guy called Trevor Locke, and he was a very

2089
01:45:15,333 --> 01:45:18,733
Speaker 23: ordinary man and he responds to this terrifying situation, and

2090
01:45:18,853 --> 01:45:22,453
Speaker 23: he was an amazing leader with unbelievable carriage and a

2091
01:45:22,573 --> 01:45:26,533
Speaker 23: very high stakes operation. And it almost reads like a

2092
01:45:26,613 --> 01:45:29,373
Speaker 23: narrative thriller. And sometimes you have to remind yourself that

2093
01:45:29,493 --> 01:45:31,173
Speaker 23: this is well events.

2094
01:45:32,173 --> 01:45:35,613
Speaker 2: And we've also gone from here to the great unknown.

2095
01:45:35,853 --> 01:45:38,173
Speaker 2: Of course this was was this Lesa Marie Presley? Did

2096
01:45:38,253 --> 01:45:40,733
Speaker 2: she begin writing this memory and it was finished for her?

2097
01:45:40,853 --> 01:45:41,573
Speaker 2: Is that how this went?

2098
01:45:42,013 --> 01:45:42,173
Speaker 11: Yes?

2099
01:45:42,253 --> 01:45:45,373
Speaker 23: She did, and she recorded. I understand lots of her

2100
01:45:45,613 --> 01:45:49,333
Speaker 23: memories are on tape, so there was lots of lots

2101
01:45:49,373 --> 01:45:51,813
Speaker 23: of things to refer back to. And Riley Keo is

2102
01:45:51,893 --> 01:45:55,533
Speaker 23: her daughter, and this is told them both their voices,

2103
01:45:55,613 --> 01:45:58,933
Speaker 23: so both Lessa Marines and her daughters. And it's fascinating

2104
01:45:59,093 --> 01:46:02,333
Speaker 23: and sad, and it talks about addiction and relationships, the

2105
01:46:02,413 --> 01:46:05,493
Speaker 23: great times in their lives and some very awful moments.

2106
01:46:06,453 --> 01:46:09,933
Speaker 23: Already shows her mum as a deeply flawed individual. But

2107
01:46:10,493 --> 01:46:12,093
Speaker 23: you know, in a world where she's the daughter of

2108
01:46:12,173 --> 01:46:15,693
Speaker 23: course of Alvis Presley, so everybody has these expectations around her.

2109
01:46:16,213 --> 01:46:19,333
Speaker 23: And I was engrossed and fascinated by the story. And

2110
01:46:19,413 --> 01:46:22,293
Speaker 23: I think Riley does her mother some real justice in

2111
01:46:22,373 --> 01:46:23,933
Speaker 23: the way that she talks about her. And yeah, it

2112
01:46:24,053 --> 01:46:28,373
Speaker 23: was it was yet painful to read, but a very

2113
01:46:28,453 --> 01:46:29,133
Speaker 23: interesting story.

2114
01:46:29,933 --> 01:46:33,093
Speaker 2: Oh an amazing list, fabulous suggestions there for Christmas and

2115
01:46:33,173 --> 01:46:34,933
Speaker 2: the holiday's Casperine, do you get a break? Do you

2116
01:46:34,933 --> 01:46:37,933
Speaker 2: get to put the books down? Or does the reading

2117
01:46:38,133 --> 01:46:38,693
Speaker 2: just carry on?

2118
01:46:39,373 --> 01:46:41,493
Speaker 23: To be honest, the reading just carries on because it's

2119
01:46:41,893 --> 01:46:44,013
Speaker 23: big part of my life and I enjoy it, so yeah,

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01:46:44,013 --> 01:46:45,453
Speaker 23: I'm going to read it up. To be honest, there's

2121
01:46:45,493 --> 01:46:47,253
Speaker 23: going to be some pretty light beach reading and there

2122
01:46:47,293 --> 01:46:48,493
Speaker 23: at times as well, I think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well and enjoy the summer, have a lovely summer,

2124
01:46:53,213 --> 01:46:54,893
Speaker 2: and thank you so much for your contribution to the

2125
01:46:54,933 --> 01:46:56,533
Speaker 2: show and look forward to talk to you next year.

2126
01:46:57,133 --> 01:46:59,733
Speaker 14: Thanks Francisca, Merry Christmas and to you too.

2127
01:47:00,413 --> 01:47:02,333
Speaker 2: That was Catherine Rainsley with the list. Now we will

2128
01:47:02,373 --> 01:47:04,093
Speaker 2: try and get that list up on our website News

2129
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Speaker 2: talksb dot co dot z if you just want to

2130
01:47:08,213 --> 01:47:10,293
Speaker 2: cover off because there was one list of books there,

2131
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Speaker 2: so we will get that list up on the website

2132
01:47:12,653 --> 01:47:14,173
Speaker 2: for you. If you just think, gosh, what was that

2133
01:47:14,333 --> 01:47:19,093
Speaker 2: third book that Catherine spoke about. It is sixteen to twelve.

2134
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Speaker 2: We've got some new music for you coming up next.

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Speaker 4: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to know.

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Speaker 8: And do the Cosday, Do the Copsday? Do the Cops Days?

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Speaker 4: With these.

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Speaker 2: This is Mahshmash Hannah I did practice. This is the

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Speaker 2: new album and the single off the album by Father

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Speaker 2: John Misty and joining me now to tell me all

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Speaker 2: about Father John Misty, who I'm quite liking, is a

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Speaker 2: stale Clifford good morning more than it's.

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Speaker 16: One of those words that you can almost say better

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Speaker 16: if you don't.

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Speaker 2: Look at it. Mahsh Mashana.

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Speaker 16: Mahsh Mashana, I believe is Hindu for a great cremation pit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a scene and certainly does. And I look,

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Speaker 2: I really like this sound. I'm gonna be with you

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Speaker 2: a sale. I'm not hugely familiar with Father John Misty,

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Speaker 2: but I kind of there's a sort of a retro

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Speaker 2: sound to this sound, to this this sort of I.

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Speaker 16: Think he's one of those artists who's been somewhere where

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Speaker 16: he did start off being sort of like slow poppy

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Speaker 16: in his very early years, but he's transitioned into this

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Speaker 16: kind of like indie rock pop sort of artist. And

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Speaker 16: this album here, he's gone to a whole other level

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Speaker 16: because it's quite orchestral, got funk soul sometimes and like

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Speaker 16: so that's the starting song, which burg orchestral sweeps right,

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Speaker 16: and then straight after that you're into indie rock and

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Speaker 16: it's grunge guitar and you're like, wow, what.

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Speaker 14: Is this guy?

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Speaker 16: But that's interesting thing about Father John Misty. He is

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Speaker 16: a guy who actually, for quite a few years he

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Speaker 16: was a drummer in a band called Fleet Fox's.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I know, Fleet Fox's okay falling into place now, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So here's.

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Speaker 16: Their drummer for a couple of albums in one massive tour.

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Speaker 16: He had done some solo stuff before that under his

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Speaker 16: own name, Josh Hillman, which didn't really go too far

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Speaker 16: for him, and then coming out of touring with them,

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Speaker 16: that was kind of like some material was coming to

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Speaker 16: him and he made this alter ego of father John Misty.

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Speaker 16: He's someone who was brought up in a very religious household.

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Speaker 16: They weren't allowed to listen to much modern music, and

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Speaker 16: I guess some of his albums have probably fallen into like,

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Speaker 16: you know, talking about what that is, because actually some

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Speaker 16: of his lyrics are very tongue in cheek and you know,

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Speaker 16: citing how it was for his life growing up. So

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Speaker 16: he's got quite a big background and being a musician.

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Speaker 16: He's also one of those people who he produces his

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Speaker 16: own stuff, but he's also worked on albums for like

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Speaker 16: Beyonce and Lady Gaga, Kid Cuddy. I think he's done

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Speaker 16: some producing on those kind of albums, so I reckon.

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Speaker 16: He's like Indie's music version of Ryan Tedder from One

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Speaker 16: Republic Gotcha. He's very musically talented, and you can tell

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Speaker 16: that when he can then release an album like this

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Speaker 16: where his lyrics are very poetic. If you think John

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Speaker 16: Lennon those kind of people, they write some really deep

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Speaker 16: stuff that you sometimes don't hear the first few times

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Speaker 16: and then you're like, ah, okay, I'm kind of going somewhere. Also,

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Speaker 16: why would you name your album after cromation Pit? But

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Speaker 16: it's kind of like him saying I'm shedding off that

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Speaker 16: and moving into a new season. So there's a lot

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Speaker 16: of rumors around this album being possibly his or one

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Speaker 16: as father John Misty.

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Speaker 14: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting though, when you say, you know, things might

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Speaker 2: not strike you at first, but they are the albums

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Speaker 2: I love. I love when you yeah, when you take

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Speaker 2: a first part in an album and you go, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to listen to this again and again because

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Speaker 2: there is so much there. There is so much to

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Speaker 2: absorb and it's going to keep me, you know. Just

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Speaker 2: I love that feeling when you play an album for

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Speaker 2: the first time.

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Speaker 16: I do too, And because he writes in that sort

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Speaker 16: of poetic and then slight storytellerway. You're like, wow, there's

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Speaker 16: something really evolving here. Mahashmashana. That song sounds like it

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Speaker 16: should be, you know, like a crescendo in a movie

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Speaker 16: when something quite traumatic or big has happened. And then

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Speaker 16: you go into the electro blues reverb on the mic,

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Speaker 16: and the lyrics that go with that are very think

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01:51:49,373 --> 01:51:53,493
Speaker 16: what did they say, Mary Magdalene as kill Bill? So

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Speaker 16: you're getting kind of my idea of what you're listening to,

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Speaker 16: and I think you're right because you can stay with

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Speaker 16: that album for a long time. You don't bore of

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Speaker 16: something like that when there's like some really beautiful lyrics

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Speaker 16: that have been put together with then some incredible layering

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Speaker 16: of really clever music and musicianship and you know's and

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Speaker 16: he's not someone who's going to shy away from where

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Speaker 16: he's been that he has dabbled in drugs. He's become

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Speaker 16: a parent. Life is supposed to be this, and he

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01:52:21,733 --> 01:52:23,453
Speaker 16: kind of shares all of that. How are we supposed

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Speaker 16: to cope in this world that seems so focused on

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Speaker 16: capitalism and greed? But actually it becoming a dad you

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Speaker 16: suddenly go, hey, the world is actually quite innocent through

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Speaker 16: their eyes. So it's an interesting thing to sort of

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Speaker 16: put into a concept. I guess he's on a lot

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Speaker 16: of concept albums because of that.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned that sort of in the first couple of songs,

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Speaker 2: you're getting a quite different sort of genre. Does that

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Speaker 2: carry on throughout the album? Does he sort of settle

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Speaker 2: into a bit of a style.

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Speaker 16: I would say that it leans quite heavily towards orchestral,

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Speaker 16: so there's a lot more of the strings and then

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Speaker 16: suddenly like big keys and things like that, but then

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Speaker 16: there'll be this one or two breakouts. But I would

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Speaker 16: say it's probably more orchestral than it is anything else,

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01:53:05,453 --> 01:53:09,613
Speaker 16: which is why I think the song She Cleaned Up

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Speaker 16: really stands out, which you're gonna share a little bit

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Speaker 16: of just so you can hear the opposing kind of sounds.

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Speaker 16: There's also a bit of like that jazz funk sort

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Speaker 16: of keys, like he's at some sort of jazz bar

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Speaker 16: and a trumpet, and so it's quite a ride musically,

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Speaker 16: and not in a bad way though, like I think,

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Speaker 16: because he's so skilled at what he does, it's actually

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Speaker 16: a really enjoyable ride, and it keeps you kind of

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Speaker 16: with him. It is quite nostalgic, so definitely more of

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Speaker 16: that seventies leaning kind of soul funk sort of thing

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Speaker 16: going on. But again I think because yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 16: I actually quite like it. It keeps me more interested

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Speaker 16: than when it's just one genre.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps, you know, like absolutely no, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 16: But definitely more orchestral than he's probably ever done in

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Speaker 16: any of his albums before. There's a lot of big arrangements,

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01:53:54,293 --> 01:53:56,493
Speaker 16: so that's obviously something he's playing with at the moment,

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Speaker 16: but it fits so perfectly with his storytelling and what

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Speaker 16: he's doing so that those big, crazy breakout moments. Screenland

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Speaker 16: is another one of those songs. Again he's lulled into

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Speaker 16: these like ballads and orchestral moments and then Screamland comes

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Speaker 16: out and it's exactly what you'd imagine in a song

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Speaker 16: called Screamland.

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Speaker 2: Is what do you rate it, Estelle?

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Speaker 16: I'm giving out a nine out of ten. This is

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Speaker 16: an album you should definitely give some time and it

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Speaker 16: will grow on you and I think it might become

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Speaker 16: one of those faves.

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Speaker 2: Estelle, thank you so much for your contribution to the

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Speaker 2: show throughout the year, for always in me to good

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Speaker 2: new music and giving me some look. I think this

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Speaker 2: is going to be perfect as I drive around the gun. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much, and Merry Christmas. We're going to play.

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Speaker 2: As Estelle said, we're going to play another track. She

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Speaker 2: cleans up in just a moment. Six to twelve.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday Mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and bpewer dot co dot zead for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements, news talk.

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Speaker 2: Be Thank you so much for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Of course, coming up next Jason Pine is going to

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Speaker 2: be with you with Weekend Sport. She's going to be

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Speaker 2: talking cricket. Where's the Where is the home of test

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Speaker 2: cricket here in New Zealand. Steve's already text to say, man,

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Speaker 2: Eden is the home of the ODIs in Hagley Park,

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Speaker 2: the home of test cricket, And I tend to think

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Speaker 2: that steals onto something there. But finally, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be really keen to hear from you this afternoon. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much to Libby for producing the show. You

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Speaker 2: are free, Libby, an amazing year, well done, and on

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Speaker 2: behalf of Jack and the whole team here. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for listening to Saturday Mornings throughout the year.

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Speaker 2: I am going to be back tomorrow morning on the

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Speaker 2: Sunday session at nine. If you're a Downton Abbey fan,

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Speaker 2: you might want to be listening to start to ten

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Speaker 2: because I've got Hugh Bonneville joining us for our final

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Speaker 2: show of the year. He of course is one of

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Speaker 2: the stars of Paddington Bear. The third film is out

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Speaker 2: on January first, so we've got some We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk all Paddington and Downton Abbey tomorrow. We're going to

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Speaker 2: finish up with some music from Father John Misty. The

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Speaker 2: album that we were talking about is my hash mahash

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Speaker 2: Mashana and this song is called She Cleans Up. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: us see tomorrow morning at nine.

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Speaker 4: Hell Listening and Long Sun to start a reading.

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Speaker 7: Just Hell Listening is Trouble, Reconciling the Footbalking

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Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live

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