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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand, Southeast International Realty,

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Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other.

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Speaker 2: Check it out Sudsy tb Hey Slam Ireland has beaten.

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Speaker 3: The All Blacks.

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Speaker 1: The culmination of a historic wake in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Just need to get it out.

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Speaker 3: In the Irish The Final four thirty two twenty two,

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Speaker 3: The crumbling of an All Black empire before our eyes

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Speaker 3: say something. It's a bad alay funny All Blacks bald

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Speaker 3: head finals on a sports title of that's this evening,

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Speaker 3: Nicki Styra, sports journalist, Lavin a good sports journalists and commentator,

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Speaker 3: High ladies, good.

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Speaker 4: Evening, or how col I lay thang? All right?

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to them ripping that out tomorrow. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be waiting for it, Lavina. What are you

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Speaker 3: recking tough game of the year for the All Blacks?

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Speaker 2: Ah? Yeah, I reckon actually to be honest, Yeah, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think with the way the Irish number one in

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Speaker 2: the world and the All Blacks have looked a little

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Speaker 2: vulnerable over the past six to eight months, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like lots of people are saying that

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Speaker 2: you All Blacks can come through and win out and

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Speaker 2: after that game against England they're feeling very confident. But

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Speaker 2: I've not reckoned the Irish.

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Speaker 4: I've got it. I'm gonna tip the Irish.

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Speaker 3: Done with the Irish and done with the Green Heather.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, Nikki, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 4: I'm going to have to agree with Lavina there.

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Speaker 5: I think the Islands the Irish side are going to

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Speaker 5: be too good and obviously that massive home advantage, and

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Speaker 5: you know, on paper these teams are fair the eaven

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Speaker 5: But I think the big change here is the loss

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Speaker 5: of Cody Taylor and you know, and bod and Barrett,

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Speaker 5: because I don't feel like Damien McKenzie is quite the

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Speaker 5: number ten that we need in the starting pack.

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Speaker 4: But hey, anything can happen, and he's Mets Rugby, can't

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Speaker 4: you all right? Nikki? Is this still like there was?

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Speaker 3: Remember when the Irish started first started beating us all

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Speaker 3: those many years ago. At the time we said this

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Speaker 3: is the one team you didn't mind losing too, because

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Speaker 3: everybody loves the Irishes. It's still like that.

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Speaker 5: Well from a personal note, yeah, I mean I love

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Speaker 5: the Irish, so I don't think any anybody who's a

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Speaker 5: patriotic all black supporter likes losing to any team, but

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Speaker 5: if you had to pick one, and maybe maybe Ireland

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Speaker 5: would be it, But no, I'm staundraying away.

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Speaker 3: All right, Levina. I was asking the question obviously because

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Speaker 3: things like it's been so friendly and nice with them

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Speaker 3: for ages and then the Johnny Sexton thing happened, and

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Speaker 3: I just wonder if it soured it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it did. I mean like from nineteen

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Speaker 2: oh five to what twenty thirteen, it was all all blacks,

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Speaker 2: all blacks, all blacks, and then there was no expectation

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Speaker 2: at all that the Irish would be able to be

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Speaker 2: an all blacks team, and then they did it, and

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Speaker 2: then they did it consistently and now it'll come down

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Speaker 2: to tomorrow morning and I think there's a few nervous

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Speaker 2: people out there. And I agree with Niki some of

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Speaker 2: the selection process. I mean, we don't have Boat and

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Speaker 2: But I really feel as though the pressure right now

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Speaker 2: But they're the ones that have to perform and try

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Speaker 2: All Black critics, which are the fans that love the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks, they'll be the first to come down hard

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Speaker 2: on them.

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Speaker 4: Are you, Levina?

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Speaker 3: You don't sound like you're convinced by d mac.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not, no, no, not at all.

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Speaker 2: I feel as though he's a magnificent player and he

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Speaker 2: plays rugby really well, but I don't feel like he's

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Speaker 2: I actually feel like Damien McKenzie doesn't feel comfortable with

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Speaker 3: Have we got in his head?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 3: Is that what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if different players different attitude, I think Heather.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon? Is it just as confidence or

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Speaker 3: what's up?

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Speaker 5: Look, I personally feel like Damion McKinnie is just the

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Speaker 5: type of player that he just needs a little bit

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Speaker 5: more space, a little bit more time. And perhaps that

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Speaker 5: does come down to playing multest match football. But Boden's

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Speaker 5: got that under his belt. He just us his decision

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Speaker 5: making it seems to be better under pressure. And I

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Speaker 5: and if Damien's put under pressure, then potentially he's going

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Speaker 2: And also I think he's playing the wrong position. I

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Speaker 2: space and time and for that he shouldn't be first five.

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Speaker 2: He should be playing full back. That's where he gets

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Speaker 3: What do you think about that? And a key bold call?

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Speaker 3: What do you say?

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Speaker 5: Look, no, I'm comfortable with him there, but I just

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Speaker 5: would prefer he was coming off the bench. I said,

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Speaker 5: and other players that can fill those fillback positions. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: look that's selection thing. I'm no selector. I can only

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Speaker 5: shame he doesn't get to play that role at Theain

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Speaker 3: Now, Navina, what do you make of punishing these F

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Speaker 2: Ah goodness, it's so interesting, isn't it. I think it's

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Speaker 2: really come to like F one make lots of money.

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Speaker 2: a lot of the drivers have come out and said, like,

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Speaker 2: we can be expressive and be dramatic and that's how

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Speaker 2: and then we might drop an expletive and I don't

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Speaker 4: By it.

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Speaker 2: It just comes down to someone in charge that actually

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Speaker 2: I think it almost adds to the drama.

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Speaker 3: But to buy it. But here's the thing. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: we were talking about the nikky just yesterday actually because somebody,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they bleeped it and they were like, oh jake.

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Speaker 3: They kept on apologizing. Well anyway, what I realized from

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: We're Australasian, so we swear all the time. So maybe

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Speaker 5: No, I don't agree with you being the only reason

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Speaker 5: I'll say this is because my darling husband, who really

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Speaker 4: Get involved in my conversations, pointed out that in American sport,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they do, and the coach you see them swearing,

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Speaker 5: one it's very proper, it's McLaren it's Mercedes, you know,

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Speaker 5: this has come from the f one governing body, this decision.

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Speaker 5: So I think sometimes the you know, the drivers, they're

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Speaker 3: They beep it out.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, they beep it out.

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Speaker 4: It's all good.

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Speaker 3: Been buck Slovina. You could buy a brand new y well,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can buy a European car.

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Speaker 3: But you could buy a brand new calf for fifty

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of coin. And that's where it hurts.

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Speaker 2: The driver's most is in the back pocket.

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Speaker 3: and just the Friday Sports Title with New Zealand Southeby's

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Speaker 3: international realty, local and global exposure like no other. Right

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Speaker 3: your back of the Sports title, Nikky Styrus and Levina

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Speaker 3: good Nick. I'll tell you what I was surprised by, right,

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Speaker 3: Sir Graham Low launching a bid for an NRL license

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Speaker 3: and they've got money behind them. How can they be ignored?

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Speaker 5: Ah to have a crystal ball who knows how the

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Speaker 5: NRL operate and what their set of criteria was, And

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Speaker 5: it sounds like it's a Graham Lower was a bit

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Speaker 5: I mean he's kept pretty tight lipped, says it's a

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Speaker 5: sort of an NBA issue, but whether that's the case,

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Speaker 5: or whether they just they just don't want another New

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Speaker 5: hard as they can.

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Speaker 4: I wish I could give you more than that, but

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Speaker 4: I don't actually know. I think it would be great

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Speaker 5: Zealand Rugby League to have another one, just like we've

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Speaker 4: To get it across the line could be tricky.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's a lot of teams in

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Speaker 5: that want to have more NRL teams just from the

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Speaker 5: they do it as an Australian competition.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we just need to start one here.

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Speaker 3: No, I think we've tried our own little competitions before.

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Speaker 4: Lavina.

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Speaker 3: You've got a good oil on it, do you know

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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to see another New Zealand team in

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Speaker 2: the NRL, but the National Rugby League of Australia does

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Speaker 2: not want that, and in fact they don't even want

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Speaker 2: the Warriors doing well. They just want to control the situation,

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Speaker 2: get bums on seats and the product of the NRL

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Speaker 2: is fabulous, but to have another New Zealand team there,

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Speaker 2: it would just kind of take the fan base away

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Speaker 2: from somewhere else and they don't want to. I would

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Speaker 2: love to see it, Heather. I really think it would

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Speaker 2: be fabulous, but I don't think it's going to happen,

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Speaker 2: regardless of how much money or how much support.

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Speaker 4: You have no conspiracy for that too.

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Speaker 5: You know, if they had a team from christ Church

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Speaker 5: and they started penalizing them like they penalized the Warriors,

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Speaker 5: and you start seeing, you know that this christ Chitch

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Speaker 5: team losing in the same fashion that the Warriors do,

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Speaker 5: then maybe they asked questions about unconscious by But don't

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Speaker 5: get me started on that.

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Speaker 3: Are you Are you a Jason Paris? Are you are

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Speaker 3: you of review that they.

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Speaker 1: Do?

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Speaker 3: You think they pin us deliberately.

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Speaker 5: I think that there has definitely been matches where they

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Speaker 5: have not wanted to see New Zealand team win Lavena.

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Speaker 4: That's a big.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I think there's a lot of New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby league fans that think the same as NICKI,

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Speaker 2: and I've watched a lot of the Warriors games, going,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, that is a bad call, bad call.

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Speaker 2: I have seen so many bad calls from referees throughout

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Speaker 2: the NRAL, in all games, throughout all situations, not just

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Speaker 2: against the Warriors. So I couldn't say that I totally

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Speaker 2: agree with Nicky on that one. But I do know

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Speaker 2: the NRL does not want another New Zealand team.

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Speaker 4: They want to control.

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Speaker 2: They've got a great brand, it's a great competition, and

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Speaker 2: as we've seen over the years that so many fans

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Speaker 2: of rugby are turning to rugby league because it's a

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Speaker 2: great competition, great brand, it's fantastic, and they don't want

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Speaker 2: to They do not want to turn that pot upside down.

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Speaker 3: But you know how this is going to work, Nicky,

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Speaker 3: how this is going to work is you and I

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Speaker 3: have listened to Levina and we've heard her common since

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Speaker 3: and then then as soon as we see the next call,

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Speaker 3: we're going to believe it again.

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Speaker 4: Penalty. She's got an Australian accent.

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Speaker 3: You know she's biased, She's I.

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Speaker 4: Just don't like to bring that up, now, would Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to say, Lena, I heard that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not entering this argument.

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Speaker 3: Heard Levina, I heard you won quite well on the Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Cup Oh my goodness, Heather, I have it. I have

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Speaker 2: a twenty year old daughter studying in America and she

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Speaker 2: was born on Melbourne Cup Day.

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Speaker 4: Two decades ago. Yes, every year I.

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Speaker 2: Put money on to and eleven to an eleven, and

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Speaker 2: every year I lose money, lose money, lose money. And

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Speaker 2: for the first time ever, I went to put money

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Speaker 2: on two good odds. I thought great eleven, was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, sixty five bucks. You can hitting, No way,

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Speaker 2: no way, put a little bit on there. And then

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Speaker 2: I was celebrating and happy and so happy. And then

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Speaker 2: the election came and then Trump won, and then I

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Speaker 2: was depressed and depressed and depressed.

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Speaker 4: I still depressed head.

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Speaker 5: So do you know what, though, Heather, I don't know

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Speaker 5: one person who either didn't do an easy bet bet

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Speaker 5: on the color of the name of that horse, or

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Speaker 5: even't got a friend whose last name is night and

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Speaker 5: they didn't even back it because it was such an outsider.

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Speaker 5: And yet and you think, you think, how on earth

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Speaker 5: could you have picked out in the million years you know? So, hey, hey,

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Speaker 5: well done to you.

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Speaker 4: To Vina. Yeah, I'm flattered, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to put it all on island. To Maroniki

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Speaker 2: just saying oh.

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Speaker 3: Lord, okay, and then you're going to be depressed all

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Speaker 3: over again. Hey guys, thank you very much appreciated our

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Speaker 3: sports huddle, Nikkys Styrus and the avena good eate away

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