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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and

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Speaker 1: global exposure like no other.

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Speaker 2: Well the huddle of this is even You got Treshurst

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Speaker 2: and Shirson Willis pr and Joe SPEGANI Child fun Ceo.

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Speaker 2: Hello ladies, Hello Jose. We're not going to see the

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Speaker 2: America's Cup hosted here, are we?

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Speaker 3: I doubt it very much. And that's the problem, right,

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Speaker 3: if we're paying, if we were thinking of paying one

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Speaker 3: hundred one hundred million dollars, what are we getting in

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Speaker 3: return for it. We would have to have viewing rights,

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Speaker 3: we'd have to have it hosted here, We'd have to

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Speaker 3: have a whole cost benefit analysis. But the thing I

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Speaker 3: was thinking about this today, Yeah, we won at the

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Speaker 3: America's Cup yesterday. It was not on any of the

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Speaker 3: front pages of the global newspapers except maybe tiny, you know,

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Speaker 3: little stories, So it's not the global event, not even

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Speaker 3: in the UK really, I mean, it was just it

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Speaker 3: was in the I don't know, I was on the

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Speaker 3: front page, but it was a small story. None of

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Speaker 3: the US papers I could find I couldn't find it.

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Speaker 3: It was a small story in the Times in the UK.

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Speaker 3: So it just isn't that big global event that it

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Speaker 3: used to be. So what do we get, like one

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars? You could get a hell of a

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Speaker 3: lot of good pr for New Zealand some other way.

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Speaker 3: On principle, I wouldn't mind spending that money if I

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Speaker 3: thought we would get the benefits for it. We're just

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Speaker 3: not going to get them. And frankly, I don't quite

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Speaker 3: trust Grant Dalton and Team New Zealand to prioritize hosting

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Speaker 3: it here anyway and bringing it home.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Trish?

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Speaker 4: On the one hand, New Zealand's major events pipeline is

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of holes in that calendar, nothing.

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Speaker 4: Nothing in that bucket, sort of tumbleweed going dobleweeds. But

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Speaker 4: this is not This is not the America's Cup that

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Speaker 4: we grew up with with Sir Peter Blake. This is

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Speaker 4: a totally different thing. And I went and had a

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Speaker 4: lot today. I think that the biggest clue has probably

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Speaker 4: already been given about the next venue. And that was

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Speaker 4: given by Mateodnora, who has been Team New Zealand's a

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Speaker 4: big backer for years and years, and he was speaking

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Speaker 4: next series is to be held within two years, it

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Speaker 4: would either stay in Barcelona or go to the Middle East.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget. For the first time last year, as part

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Speaker 4: of this America's Cup, there was some prelim racing in

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Speaker 4: Jedda in Saudi Arabia, and it looks like from what

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Speaker 4: Matodinora said that you know, the Saudi Arabia would be

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Speaker 4: high up on that list.

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Speaker 2: We can't compete. We just don't have the kind of money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just think we need to get realistic about it. Now,

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon, Josie. Is this Andrew Bailey business?

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Speaker 2: Is this born to rule sneering at workers from the

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Speaker 2: National Party or was it just a dad joke that

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Speaker 3: Look, I think it's just silly. It was a silly

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Speaker 3: joke that backfired. It's not resignation material, and you start

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Speaker 3: to devalue the call for resignations if you make this.

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Speaker 2: A reason an atmostope a columnist at the weekend who

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Speaker 3: His So Andrew Barts wrote a column and you know,

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Speaker 3: seeing that in the polling for Luxe. And even if

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Speaker 3: you don't think it's true, you know, fifty more than

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Speaker 3: danger that this just feeds into the narrative. Doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: But not worth losing your job over.

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Speaker 3: Oh definitely not. I mean, you are just devaluing a

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Speaker 3: And you know that seemed like a bit of overkill,

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Speaker 3: sure he is. Maybe, but that's just politics, right. I

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Speaker 3: don't think in principle this really warranted a reason.

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Speaker 2: Trisia, what you take, but I'm going to get it

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Speaker 2: after the break if you don't mind the huddle.

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Speaker 1: With New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate the marketing of

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Speaker 1: your home.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back with the huddle, Tricious and Josipiganni. Tristia,

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Speaker 2: what do you make of the Andrew Bailey situation.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's one of my favorite shouts in politics because

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Speaker 4: it always makes me smile when they always say, that's right, resign,

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Speaker 4: you know in the house, when anything but whatever happens

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Speaker 4: from here, it will actually be a judgment on political judgment.

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Speaker 4: And someone much wiser than me today said, and I

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Speaker 4: thought this was very stage advice that in politics you

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Speaker 4: don't have to be liked by your colleagues, but you

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Speaker 4: have to be trusted in your political judgment. And I

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Speaker 4: think you know. Serving up Friday Front page headlines to

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Speaker 4: your hard working leader who already, as Josie has pointed out,

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Speaker 4: political judgment overall. And and just you know, it's an

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Speaker 4: you know, national ministers who are out of touch. I

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Speaker 4: think those will be the questions in Chris Luckson's mind,

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Speaker 4: not for now. But it's the kind of thing that

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Speaker 4: you just save up for down the track when you're

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Speaker 4: weighing up different.

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Speaker 3: The resignation call does get checked around all the time,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it. And I remember once you might have even

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Speaker 3: been hosting it.

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Speaker 1: That was on Q and A.

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Speaker 3: And I called for Jerry Browny's resignation very you know,

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Speaker 3: loudly and principally that he should resign. He'd walught through

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: It was a nothing thing. And Jerry lovely and called

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Speaker 3: free glass of wine, and Jerry says, I'll get you in,

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Speaker 4: I do mean it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's lovely. That's the only thing that you want

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Speaker 2: out of it is everybody forgives in the end. Listen, Trish.

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Speaker 2: The thing about the cannapees, I'm not so offended that

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Speaker 2: the cannape is thirty bucks ahead. I'm offended that they're

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Speaker 2: having this conference. Stall, Why are they having this conference? Well,

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Speaker 2: I do need to get three hundred bosses into a

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Speaker 4: I feel like every week we turn up to have

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Speaker 4: these lines. So last week it was the film commission

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Speaker 4: off to Khan and having been to Cahn myself, it's

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Speaker 4: not a cheap exercise. But well not when you go, Trish, No, no,

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Speaker 4: actually I did go in an official capacity as a judge.

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Speaker 4: Just clearing that, but I know I represented New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Oh it was nothing. But in terms of this kind

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Speaker 4: of public sector spending at the moment, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: really hard to argue these headlines when they when they

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Speaker 4: to everyone in these departments to go. Do we really

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Speaker 4: that we could send that are going to deal with this?

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Speaker 4: Or is there a way to, you know, to make

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Speaker 3: I don't mind you, right, I don't mind people getting

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Speaker 3: together for work if it's going to come up with

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Speaker 2: The hair straights and how can you achieve with three

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Speaker 3: Look, I tell you what if they reduce hospital waiting lists.

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Speaker 3: I don't care how many canopies they take, but they're

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Speaker 3: not going through. But the bigger problem you you mentioned

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Speaker 3: this just now. Hey, the bigger problem is what was

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Speaker 3: the purpose of that means point? It was called CONNECTS

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Speaker 3: twenty four and let me read you what they said.

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Speaker 3: The purpose was connecting with us strategy. Contact means understanding

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Speaker 3: the priorities from our authorizing environment. Now let me translate

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Speaker 3: to you that means understand the priorities of the guys

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Speaker 3: and you've got to understand what they want. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's like, do you really need to talk in gibberish,

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Speaker 3: and you need to be.

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Speaker 2: Simple, right, it's do save people's lives, do the operations,

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Speaker 2: don't blow the budget.

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Speaker 3: It's not don't drown in words salad.

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Speaker 4: And here's the other, here's the big issue. So we're

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Speaker 4: all in here getting all you know.

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Speaker 2: Worked worked up, pasterical three women.

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Speaker 3: Spoutings so worked out.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't well, I don't think I've reached that

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Speaker 4: boiling point yet, but who knows. But the bigger issue is,

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Speaker 4: and you know, talking to people working in the health sector,

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Speaker 4: the shamozzle that is happening now because no decisions can

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Speaker 4: be made because Health New Zealand is just in a

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Speaker 4: state of turmoil. So people at an operational level trying

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Speaker 4: getting done. And I think it's more those people who

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Speaker 4: see these headlines and just think, what why am I

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Speaker 4: turning up to work every day?

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Speaker 2: I totally agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you can do something about the

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Speaker 3: hell that the health sector is, and at the moment,

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Speaker 3: by all means do that, but then call your conference,

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Speaker 3: let's sort out the let's sort out the problems. And

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Speaker 3: the health sector, and I don't If you had that

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Speaker 3: as a conference name, I'd go to it.

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Speaker 2: And probably you'd only have two people there because they'd

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Speaker 2: be the decision makers. Guys, thanks so much, appreciate it.

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