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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and

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Speaker 1: global exposure like no other.

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Speaker 2: Tonight tri Shuston, Huston, Willis pr and Josie BEGANI Child

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Speaker 2: Fund CEO, Good Evening, Good Evening, barking up the wrong

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Speaker 2: tree there? What do you reckon through? I mean, you

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Speaker 2: can never be too careful, can you? When it comes

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Speaker 2: to China, you know, places like that, they have a

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Speaker 2: vested interest in finding out what's going on down here.

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Speaker 3: Who knows what's in those French magnets.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I think it just highlights, doesn't it,

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Speaker 4: the sensitivity around China, and for any groups going on

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Speaker 4: trips like this, the the issues with perception that you

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Speaker 4: might get on the way back, because on the one hand,

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, Sam Hoyle explained it really well,

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Speaker 4: But then on the other I'm thinking, gosh, it's you know,

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Speaker 4: not many people on their own dime and time would

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Speaker 4: want to go on essentially a work trip encouraging cultural

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Speaker 4: competency on a sort of a strict four day itinery.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it seems odd, doesn't it, Because I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Do that.

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Speaker 4: Reflecting on my commitment to the business and its purpose do.

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Speaker 2: See there's text coming and saying actually, chill out, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: You know these police officers that a lot of them

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Speaker 2: socialize together on their own time and dime all that regularly.

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Speaker 2: So what's to see here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do think there's a bit of fainting

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Speaker 3: couch panic going on here. And let's be clear, China

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Speaker 3: is not the enemy of New Zealand. Every country spies.

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Speaker 3: I know there are issues around the way that China

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Speaker 3: functions in other countries and so on. But the thing

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Speaker 3: that confuses me though, is I can't work out whether

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Speaker 3: this was a totally personal trip with a bunch of

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Speaker 3: cops who like each other, you know, go to the

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Speaker 3: public with each other, going on a trip to China,

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Speaker 3: because it seems a bit weird. And you raise this

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Speaker 3: with Sam just now that the police liaison you know,

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Speaker 3: ethnic liaison person was organizing this trip. Because I think

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Speaker 3: it's perfectly valid for cops in New Zealand to go

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Speaker 3: to other countries to meet with other cops to you know,

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Speaker 3: influence and understand each other because we work not just

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Speaker 3: in Beijing and Hong Kong, but we also work in

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Speaker 3: the Pacific a lot. I mean, we have a lot

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Speaker 3: of our cops who go and work in different countries

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Speaker 3: in the Pacific, and there's a lot of Chinese cops

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Speaker 3: in those countries too, so understanding how China works, so

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Speaker 3: that makes sense to me. It's just that it also

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Speaker 3: sounds like, oh no, it was just a lovely tour

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Speaker 3: and everybody had a nice time, and really for four

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Speaker 3: days you all went to China and hung out together

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Speaker 3: because your mates. It's a little bit blue as to

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Speaker 3: whether it was personal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I used to live in Beijing and before I left,

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Speaker 2: a friend of mine who works for a defense he said, now,

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Speaker 2: just be careful, And I was like, what do you mean,

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Speaker 2: Just be careful because you never know when they might

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Speaker 2: you might be approached to trying, you know, to try

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Speaker 2: and it. And I was like, well, I've got those

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Speaker 2: state secrets.

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Speaker 1: Used for aid.

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Speaker 3: Ryan if they were going on a junket to Russia

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Speaker 3: and sort of you know, meeting up with Putin and

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Speaker 3: Lavrov and having a cup of tea with Basha allah Sad.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think we just have to be careful

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Speaker 3: here that China is not the enemy of New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Whatever complicated relationship we have with China, we're not at

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Speaker 3: war with them. They're not the enemy, so you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe just take a chill pill everybody.

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Speaker 2: In fact, they're the hand that feeds us. Josie, thank

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Speaker 2: you for that, and Trish will be back with the

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Speaker 2: huddle in just a second.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty Elevate the

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Speaker 2: Tris Shurson Huson will pr Josie Bagani, the Child Fund

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Speaker 2: the CEO on the huddle this evening. So many people

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Speaker 2: are texting in about the magnets that Scott from the

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Speaker 2: Chinese saying get rid of the French mags. Someone said,

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Speaker 2: what Ryan is going to interview the god the contempers well.

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Speaker 3: Through a scanner.

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Speaker 2: You never know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a weird gift. It is a weird shitty

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Speaker 3: guest actually, but yeah, needless to say, it's a bit weird.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell the Chinese that, all right. The government's having

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Speaker 2: another crack at the councils. They are looking at rate

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Speaker 2: pegging the rates of councils local councils next year. But

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Speaker 2: in the meantime they're saying basically stick to the base.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's as mess as they've said before, Trish,

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Speaker 2: But still Wellington councils doing the Golden Mile and putting

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Speaker 4: Well, well, this is probably exactly why Simmy and Brown

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Speaker 4: in this package today. They are actually moving to legislate

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Speaker 4: for this stuff, so the councils will have no choice

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Speaker 4: but to listen. You know. I thought it was interesting

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Speaker 4: I heard this morning Hea they're actually talking about you know,

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Speaker 4: the pickers number one minister for the year, and she

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Speaker 4: came up with it was a race between Simon and Erica,

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Speaker 4: Simmy and Brown and Erica Stanford. Simeon then comes in

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Speaker 4: today with this which is in some senses what Erica

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Speaker 4: has done in education. Think about what she's doing there.

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Speaker 4: Everyone back to back to basics and do the basics brilliantly.

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Speaker 4: So it's the same kind of mantra applied. I thought

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Speaker 4: there was some really good stuff in this. First of all,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be really raining in councils and saying

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Speaker 4: you have to do what you are actually supposed to

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Speaker 4: be doing with rate payer money, i e. Fixing the roads,

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Speaker 4: making sure we've got water, making sure the rubbish is

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Speaker 4: taking away all of that great stuff. But the other

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Speaker 4: thing I really like in this is that every year

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Speaker 4: there will be a report produced, where as a rate

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Speaker 4: payer in Auckland, I can see oh, how many how

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Speaker 4: much rate? How much in rates am I paying compared

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Speaker 4: to someone on the same sized site in Wellington. And

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Speaker 4: you can also see whether your council is spending the

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Speaker 4: right money on you know, if they're taking out debt

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Speaker 4: and things like that. It will be great transparency around that.

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Speaker 4: I'm all about it and I love that it's going

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Speaker 4: to be out before the local government elections.

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Speaker 2: Josie, Do people listen to the stuff? Will they go

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Speaker 2: up on the DIA website and read these comparisons between

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Speaker 2: the councils and is it going you know? And thereby

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Speaker 2: will we fix our problem with local government?

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Speaker 3: No, no one will read it, but we will, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: and we'll all draw attention to it and try and

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Speaker 3: communicate it in layman's language. Look, I think there's one

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Speaker 3: thing here which is really good. We've had years of

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Speaker 3: you know, well being, frameworks, pillars. You know, the minute

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Speaker 3: I hear the word frameworks or a pellar us just

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Speaker 3: you feel like taking a sleeping pill and you know,

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Speaker 3: just going to bed. But we've had well being, we've

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Speaker 3: had circular economy, we've had donor economics. I mean, each

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Speaker 3: of those words means something on their own, but together

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Speaker 3: it's basically meaningless. And it's like we've been run by

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Speaker 3: people who speak English as a second language for too long.

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Speaker 3: So you know, that's good to get back to basics

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Speaker 3: and start talking about, you know, the pipes and the

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Speaker 3: potholes and basic council service, because this kind of everything

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Speaker 3: Bagel approach to policy, whether local or national, has you

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Speaker 3: end up with so many multiple targets. You know, you

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Speaker 3: try to build social housing, but you've got to put

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Speaker 3: solar panels on it, and you've got to create jobs,

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Speaker 3: and you've got to do it environmentally friendly and so

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Speaker 3: on and so on, and so you actually slow everything down.

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Speaker 3: The thing that worries me about this though, and I'm

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Speaker 3: supportive of the back to basics, but I think you

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Speaker 3: also need counsels, and I support it kind of devolving

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Speaker 3: more to local councils. If they're doing the job well,

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Speaker 3: then I want them to look at doing social housing.

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Speaker 3: I want local communities to work out where to put

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Speaker 3: They know where the problem families are, they know where

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Speaker 3: the issues in that community are so you know, I

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Speaker 3: do think we want to devolve stuff that local people

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Speaker 3: are better at fixing. Two local councils, two EUIs whatever.

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Speaker 3: I also think in the case of Wellington, my god,

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Speaker 3: we need we need some vision around economic development in Wellington.

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Speaker 3: And that's not really about to basics thing that it's

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Speaker 2: If they could spell it economic for a start, I

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Speaker 2: think we'd be getting somewhere. We have to leave it there. Guys,

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Speaker 2: everybody gets a fridge magnet for a coming tonight. Thank you, wonderful,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, someone says, Chris says, counsels already pegging rate payers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris, Thank you, Josep mcganney, Thank you, Tris Huson.

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