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Speaker 2: Hello you Great New Zealand's Welcome to Men and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number three, one nine for the thirty

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Speaker 2: first of March twenty twenty six. Have we ever had

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Speaker 2: at a show with so many people ring up and

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Speaker 2: say great show? No, I don't think we have ten

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Speaker 2: It's only been three hundred and nineteen shows and people

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Kid's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons

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Speaker 1: Squid go to news Talk, said, be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Tuesday show. Really

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Speaker 3: great to have your company. I hope you're doing well

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Speaker 3: where you're listening in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Get a mets. As you're saying before, Tyler, you were rapped.

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Speaker 2: You're racked with guilt because you wore the wrong shoes

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Speaker 2: to play squash this morning and you've absolutely scuffed up

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Speaker 2: your left marks all over the squash court. Yes, yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty clear at squash courts that you've got to

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Speaker 2: wear the right shoes. A lot of signs up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And so you're asking before what you should do about

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Speaker 2: cleaning up. This person has come to your come to

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Speaker 2: your eighth dear, Tyler. Okay I and he said, I

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Speaker 2: just checked at our club. What a great person he is.

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Speaker 2: He's checked it at his club for you. Good man,

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Speaker 2: I thank you. And he reckons do nothing. They just

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Speaker 2: the marks with the proper shoes. That's what I wanted

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Speaker 2: to hear. Thank you, Ian. So you don't have to

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Speaker 2: go in there with the dissolve it and the or

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Speaker 2: the microfibercloth or the tooth brush and scrub the floor

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Speaker 2: further destroy the courts. But just wear the right shoes

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Speaker 2: and future police Tyler at the squash club.

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Speaker 3: I can do that, and thank you. In I've got

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Speaker 3: to say having my back and calling the.

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Speaker 2: Colin, how good is that that someone would call his

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Speaker 2: admit to what you've done.

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Speaker 3: I had a lot of abuse, which was fair, But

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Speaker 3: good on you Ian for having my back. That's what

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Speaker 3: we like on the show, So thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Keep those texts on in nine two, nine to two

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Speaker 3: right to today's show. It is a doozy for you

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock. Want to have a chat about April

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Speaker 3: Falls Day?

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Speaker 4: It is tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: It's the thirty first of March today, so that means

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Speaker 3: the first of April tomorrow. And typically there was a

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Speaker 3: being undertaken by various companies and individuals. I mean companies especially.

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Speaker 3: They always use that day as a bit of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when did it die? When did April Fool's Day die?

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Speaker 2: And when you say it was mainly the companies. No,

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Speaker 2: it was mainly dads on their kids, wasn't it you.

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Speaker 3: just too sensitive these days? After two o'clock A significant

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Speaker 2: So is it worth it self employment for the freedom

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Speaker 3: That's going to be a great chat after two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about vaping. So

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Speaker 3: Vapes containing nicotine are likely to cause lung and oral cancer,

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Speaker 3: and lead author Bernard Stewart. He was on with Ryan

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Speaker 5: This assessment of whether easy reach cause cancer has not

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Speaker 5: all the available literature that infers that vaping in its

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Speaker 5: And added to that vaping causes lung cancer, of vaping

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Speaker 2: Up smoking the certainty, and then he went almost certainty,

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Speaker 4: But you haven't. And there's some big questions around mouth studies, huge.

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Speaker 2: Questions about mouth studies. Mouth studies only really exist to

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Speaker 2: that that as things move forward, vaping is looking less

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Speaker 2: interesting in New Zealand becausew Zealand has a harm reduction

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Speaker 2: approach to vaping, don't we, meaning that we treat vaping

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Speaker 2: as less harmful than smoking, yes, and useful for quitting,

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Speaker 2: but we still regulate it, so we think it's bad.

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Speaker 2: We think it's bad, but we don't think it's as

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Speaker 2: And this study doesn't say it's as bad as smoking. No,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to me, as someone who does vape, that

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Speaker 3: I know it wouldn't. A couple of reasons for that.

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Speaker 3: I enjoy it, but also I do have an addiction

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Speaker 3: It's this fair approach to trying to get people to

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Speaker 2: Well, what succeeded because people are smoking less and less?

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Speaker 3: The price, the price. The price was a big part

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Speaker 3: In fact, what happens when a smoker sees something like

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Speaker 2: Do they do? They have another secret. It actually makes

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Speaker 2: siks that wouldn't hurt him. Yeah, they's not gonnaffect me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that logic rounds up. Muppets like

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Speaker 2: this Bernard Loser are always coming up with studies to

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Speaker 2: make you worry about things. But everything gives you cancer,

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Speaker 4: Everything?

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a few things out there. Well, I

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Speaker 2: mean the sun gives you cancer. Certainly does walking around

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Speaker 2: end of all everything. I don't know, a cool glass

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Speaker 2: You have to be an idiot, says Ryan. To not know,

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Speaker 2: it's to not know it's no good for you. But

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Speaker 2: has Bernard done any studies on things like zero sugar

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Speaker 2: drinks or highly processed foods? I mean, highly processed foods

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Speaker 2: are probably something you should be worrying about, Yes, in

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Speaker 2: the damage to highly processed foods do you is becoming clear,

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Speaker 2: by all those kind of things. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: but you know, bern it does sound like a bit

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Speaker 2: say that. But that's his study.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: His study was on vaping, Yes, correat and vaping compared

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Speaker 3: Yes, So does this change anything for you if you

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Speaker 3: It is now, it is sixteen past one, back very shortly.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're like a bunch of people that text you see,

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 3: So we are talking about a new study out of

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Speaker 3: Does that change anything for you. If you are a

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Speaker 2: That number to call looks like a dark quacks like

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Speaker 2: Only an idiot would vape. It's not quackery. Yeah, we've

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Speaker 2: by their very admission that this study doesn't He says

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's not good for me, but there's

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Speaker 2: But there's a high chance that this study won't pan out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just for me, I'd say vaping has been

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Speaker 3: So for me, you know, there's a couple of texts

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Speaker 3: if I was smoking tobacco, I'd be in a worse situation.

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Speaker 3: And then let's talk about how many people are in

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Speaker 4: Where do you draw the line on that?

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Speaker 2: Yes, but Tyler, back in the day, people were saying,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. One hundred and eighty ten eighties number

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, First of all, I just wanted to say

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Speaker 9: It's it's really awesome to hear. And yeah, it's very

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Speaker 2: What a nice thing to say, and thank you for

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Speaker 7: Oh no, it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 9: Like Tyler points out, you know, people, for me, it

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Speaker 9: what really happens to people when they become subjected to tobacco,

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Speaker 9: all right, And it wasn't until the early two thousands

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Speaker 7: And that's why in this country, for example, in the.

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Speaker 7: But once it does, you know, people.

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Speaker 10: But you know, it's just a.

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Speaker 9: But I just wanted to say in closing that trillions,

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Speaker 9: And you know, obviously the tobacco companies are never going

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, oh yeah, what you're saying. But I

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, because look we've said multiple times. I know

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Speaker 3: I don't need scientific rigor behind that to know that clearly,

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Speaker 4: So I know, you know, and I hear what.

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Speaker 3: You say that if more research comes out, and it

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Speaker 3: I already know it's it's not great and I should

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Speaker 2: But a study like this doesn't change my thinking.

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Speaker 9: No, I absolutely recognize and understand your logic irrationale towards it,

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Speaker 9: That it's not going to be good for me, and

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Speaker 7: And so it's just a choice that I personally have

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Speaker 2: Is there any choices that is, anything that you do

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Speaker 9: But in doing that, it's you know, I know it's

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Speaker 9: I had a choice. I can I continue to drink

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Speaker 7: But I think the same is no different with vaping

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Speaker 9: You know, when a person gets to a point where

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Great points. I all push back on one

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Speaker 2: one point. I think one hundred and fifteen billion people

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you very much for your call.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with Alex I one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: It is twenty eight past one.

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Speaker 2: than any torture humans could invent. Bill, And I'm sorry

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Speaker 12: Bill.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds horrendous.

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Speaker 2: But I mean cigars have much of the same horrific

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Speaker 3: Yeaps, Assad, Yes, exactly Rightbaco. Back in the moh it

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Speaker 3: is twenty eight past one.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mike asking breakfast.

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Speaker 13: I'm solicited approaches from foreign players offering to take the tickets.

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Speaker 13: We can actually use Shane Jones's Associate Administer of Energy

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Speaker 13: as well us.

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Speaker 2: Who are they and are they legit?

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Speaker 14: They definitely are legit. Let's not to say that we're

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Speaker 14: giving up on the fuel companies because they will be

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Speaker 14: substantially punished if they didn't live up to their word.

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Speaker 14: And they're the ones who wanted this system.

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Speaker 13: You've heard nothing from them at all that would give

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Speaker 13: you any pause.

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Speaker 14: For thought, not one iota. The difficulty what we're dealing with,

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Speaker 14: where are you going to store it? And a lot

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Speaker 14: of this is traceable to these grengoons who believe that

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Speaker 14: by deprecating fossil fuels somehow are you going to make

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Speaker 14: New zeal.

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Speaker 13: Back Tomorrow at six am, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 13: Rain Drivers fort SV News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty nine to two. So if you are a vapor

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Speaker 3: does this new evidence out of Australia that says vapes

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Speaker 3: containing nicotina likely to cause lung and oral counts as

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Speaker 3: are cancers change how you view vaping and if you've

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Speaker 3: managed to give up the vapor smoking altogether, oh e

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighties the number to call.

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Speaker 2: Because Texas, says Tyler, listen to yourself.

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Speaker 4: M yeah, I even do.

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Speaker 2: You're going to yeah, get if there has some more

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Speaker 2: details there? What do you mean I always listen to myself.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I like what I hear. Sometimes I don't.

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Speaker 2: And this Texas, have you blocked me?

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Speaker 15: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, we don't do that, dear Texter. A couple

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Speaker 3: more texts coming through on nine two nine two. Hi

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Speaker 3: guys to people, forget that death is a cancer that

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Speaker 3: can't be cured. We have to die of something, I say,

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Speaker 3: smoke or vape away. It'll only be the cost that

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Speaker 3: dictates use cheers. I mean, there's that argument, but there's

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Speaker 3: different ways you can die. You know, we all we

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Speaker 3: will all die, but some of us will die happily

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Speaker 3: in our sleep. Others will I been horrific coughing, fits

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Speaker 3: and pain and agony, unable to speak to our loved ones.

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Speaker 2: And could spend years and years and years in torture. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there is that, So there is Yeah. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: all have to die, but but you know, don't we

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Speaker 2: want to be as fit and healthy for as long

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Speaker 2: as we can.

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Speaker 3: If you can put it in that direction, that's you're

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Speaker 3: going to be far better off.

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Speaker 2: Robert says, Hey, guys, I was a die had smoker.

483
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Speaker 2: I was not going to give up, no matter the costs,

484
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Speaker 2: both in health and in monetary terms. I bought a

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Speaker 2: vape before vaping was cool, and I don't know if

486
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Speaker 2: vaping is cool not anymore. There's nothing all about the

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Speaker 2: douche fla. Smoking did look cool at one point, you know,

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Speaker 2: evenly James Dean and Marilyn Monroe. Absolutely, but you know,

489
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Speaker 2: but it was killing people. But vaping does never look cool,

490
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Speaker 2: and that's why people call it the douche rey do.

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Speaker 2: I am happy to say that I have been off

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Speaker 2: the stinky sticks for nine years now. I have Where

493
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Speaker 2: have my teeth gone? Why was my health? Why is

494
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Speaker 2: my health deteriorated? Since the stinky stick? I can vape

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Speaker 2: inside and therefore my nicotine intake is at an all

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Speaker 2: time high. I'm a die hard vape and I will

497
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Speaker 2: never give it up, no matter the cost. That's the

498
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Speaker 2: thing about vaping that I think is the problem is

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Speaker 2: you can do it so much. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 2: can do it. I mean you're not supposed to do

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Speaker 2: it inside at buildings, but people can.

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Speaker 4: Get away with it, right they can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a little yep the under the collar.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people shoot off to a toilet to

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Speaker 3: have a wee chiky vapevapor.

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Speaker 2: I work with this guy who just vapes across the

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Speaker 2: desk at me for four hours a day.

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Speaker 4: Who's that? I'm not gonna name any names that Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 4: It's not my cost game. No, you wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: Between twelve and four every day.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't hack them out? Well, who is this guy?

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Speaker 2: But everyone would know if if that person was smoking

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Speaker 2: in the studio.

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Speaker 4: That is crazy behavior, right.

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Speaker 11: Oh.

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Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. Headlines with

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Speaker 3: Wendy coming up.

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Speaker 4: It's twenty six to two.

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Speaker 16: U's talk said, Headlines with your ride. New Zealand's the

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Speaker 16: number one taxi app. Download Your Ride Today. Australian researchers

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Speaker 16: worn evidence is mounting that nicotine containing vaping is likely

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Speaker 16: to cause lung and oral cancers and other diseases. The

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Speaker 16: Prime Minister is promising to move it pace to secure

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Speaker 16: fuel storage at Marston Point, but its owner says it

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Speaker 16: could take months. Under need and woman's admitted dumping shoes

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Speaker 16: that were key evidence in the murder case against her husband, Reginda.

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Speaker 16: He was found guilty of killing Gurjit Singh. In twenty

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Speaker 16: twenty four. State Highway fifty one is shut near Napier

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Speaker 16: with a detour through to Our Avenue, where a truck

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Speaker 16: hit the central wire barrier enrolled, seriously injuring the driver.

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Speaker 16: The comments commissions echoing a warning about a potential pyramid scheme,

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Speaker 16: SFC Vibe Rating, which claims it'll pay for online tasks

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Speaker 16: like rating movies while charging fees. Our report shows a

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Speaker 16: weather proofing our energy system shifting to a lower mission's

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Speaker 16: economy underpinned by renewable energy, could add twenty two billion

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Speaker 16: dollars to the economy by twenty thirty five. Plas economic

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Speaker 16: recovery now unlikely until twenty twenty. He's seven ASB economists

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Speaker 16: saying read more at the end zet Herold Premium. Now

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Speaker 16: back to Matton Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy. It is twenty two to two.

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Speaker 2: This person's not hampy with your nonsense argument that everyone

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Speaker 2: does something that's not good for them is just dumb.

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Speaker 2: Not calling you a dummy, just your thought process being dumb.

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Speaker 2: Pull yourself together and stop making excuses.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 2: I stand by that. I think you've got a balance,

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Speaker 2: you know, the risky things you do, right, And that's

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Speaker 2: kind of the argument with smoking right now, because the

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Speaker 2: government thinks that that vaping is less bad than smoking,

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Speaker 2: and that's the idea smoking Kells. They know that for sure.

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Speaker 2: The idea is that vaping is left harmful, but that

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Speaker 2: gets you nicotine, and nicotine is what you're addicted to.

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Speaker 2: Nicotine is not the thing that kills you. Nicotine isn't

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Speaker 2: a carcinogen, but the way you get nicotine is a problem, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: And people get addicted to the nicotine. So smoking Kells

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Speaker 2: vaping is less harmful. Therefore, we've decided that it's better

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Speaker 2: for people to vape. If it comes out there, vaping

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Speaker 2: isn't significantly safer, and it gets close to smoking, then

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Speaker 2: they'll reevaluate that idea. Yeah, but everyone everyone does risky things.

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Speaker 2: People drink alcohol, that's risky. People overeat yep, people eat

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Speaker 2: a lot of sugar. People take all kinds of kinds

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Speaker 2: of risks in life.

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Speaker 3: That's a hypocrisy. I'm seeing through the text machine a

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Speaker 3: lot of people having a crack. And yes, I am

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Speaker 3: a vapor but I eat pretty healthy. I am some smart,

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Speaker 3: so I do a whole bunch of things to keep

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Speaker 3: myself out of the health system. But you know, our

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Speaker 3: health system's clogged up with people that eat crap all

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Speaker 3: day that are not that smart in the sun and

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Speaker 3: end up with those gold awful melanoma bots.

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Speaker 2: Obesity overeating is our biggest killer, yeah, in this country.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not having to go at those people, but

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Speaker 3: it is the hypocrisy when I've gone to something like

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Speaker 3: vaping to get off the analogue cigarettes, and there's still

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Speaker 3: people coming.

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Speaker 2: Through and say, you're an idiot, get of it.

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Speaker 4: It's bad for you.

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Speaker 11: I know that.

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Speaker 2: And everyone takes risk in life. If you decide to

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Speaker 2: drive between cities, that's probably the biggest risk you take

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Speaker 2: in life. Yeah, if you decide to get into a

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Speaker 2: car and drive from Auckland to let's say, Totonger. That's

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Speaker 2: a big risk.

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Speaker 4: It's a big risk.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've decided that their reward is worth it. The

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Speaker 2: six says I'm about to turn forty six. Been smoking

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Speaker 2: the dary since fourteen. I started vaping three years ago

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Speaker 2: to help stop the ciggies, But now I find I'm

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Speaker 2: doing both. The number of siggies a day has come

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Speaker 2: down and the amount of time I find myself sucking

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Speaker 2: the vapors skyrocket. This is a problem. I can't compremend

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Speaker 2: how cigarees are still legal, and have personally found a

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Speaker 2: lot more coughing up crap from the vape. I can't

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Speaker 2: wait to stop both, but my addiction, addictive personality is

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Speaker 2: holding me back. I don't believe for a second of

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Speaker 2: vaping is not bad for you. Cheers Tyson think if

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Speaker 2: your text ree welcome to the show.

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Speaker 17: Plass is absolutely correct. And on another note, you know

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Speaker 17: it's all about choices and healthy choices. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 17: an ex smoker and I'm the worst kind because I

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Speaker 17: don't tolerate cigarettes or vaping. You've also got to look

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Speaker 17: at the government has actually made a real rod for

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Speaker 17: the back for using vapes as stop smoking tool. In

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Speaker 17: quite frankly, I tell people, do you know how stupid

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Speaker 17: you look by sucking on a USB stick? Because that's

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Speaker 17: what it looks like.

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Speaker 4: Look, there's no argument.

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Speaker 17: And do you know have you googled and I know

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Speaker 17: you have formaldehyde? It's one of the highest products that

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Speaker 17: are in vapes and it's a carciogenic And you're talking

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Speaker 17: about this report coming out of Australia. Well, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 17: five years ago the reports were coming out from the US.

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Speaker 17: There are countless cases of young people vaping and landing

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Speaker 17: themselves in hospital with respiratory diseases right from the get go.

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Speaker 3: I seriously, I'm not saying it's a good thing, but

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Speaker 3: that's what we've got to be careful about. These studies

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Speaker 3: in the Australian study in particularly that there's a big

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Speaker 3: black market operation in Australias. It stands right now you

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Speaker 3: can only legally get a vape in Australia from a pharmacy,

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Speaker 3: so they're well aware there's a big black market and

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Speaker 3: that's when the formal to hyde products get into it.

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Speaker 3: So we're kind of in a different situation in New

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Speaker 3: Zealand that there is regulation, but there's not a black

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Speaker 3: market in those vapes as long as you go to

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Speaker 3: a reputable dealer. So there are differences in the studies,

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Speaker 3: and the United States is different as well with how

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Speaker 3: they handled their regulation. So I'm not saying it's good

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Speaker 3: for anybody by any stretch of the imagination, but you've

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Speaker 3: just got to take some of these studies and look

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Speaker 3: at the differences between the likes of Australia, US and

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Speaker 3: US in the US as well.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I agree, totally agree, but just on.

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Speaker 3: Smoking sensation, because I think that's the interesting one is

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Speaker 3: I've tried a few things. I thought the nicketine patches

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Speaker 3: that just meant I smoked more because it increased my

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Speaker 3: nicotine intake. I tried the chewing gum that was kind

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Speaker 3: of similar. So all of those sort of nicotine cessation

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Speaker 3: devices seem to all be a similar camp, right, and

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Speaker 3: VP would be in there as well.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, Yes, agreed, Absolutely agreed. But you know, I know

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Speaker 17: it's all part of choices, and I respect that, but

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Speaker 17: it concerns the hell out of me and the aspect

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Speaker 17: that you're as a young fella and you're going to

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Speaker 17: ten years down the track. I don't want to see

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Speaker 17: you become unwell.

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Speaker 18: And that's when I say to a lot of people, please.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you very stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean further Toive's point though, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there is for malde hide in a vape, right and so,

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Speaker 2: and the thing about you know how much for malde

652
00:30:44,813 --> 00:30:46,893
Speaker 2: hide or whatever there is for maldehyde, which is a

653
00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:49,973
Speaker 2: non castinogen. But the amount of vaping people do. I

654
00:30:50,053 --> 00:30:52,413
Speaker 2: think that's that's the thing. That people do so much

655
00:30:52,453 --> 00:30:55,653
Speaker 2: more vaping than they did than they smoke cigarettes. You

656
00:30:55,813 --> 00:30:58,133
Speaker 2: just could not, well not in a very long time,

657
00:30:58,293 --> 00:30:59,653
Speaker 2: be able to do it. I mean, back in the

658
00:30:59,693 --> 00:31:01,373
Speaker 2: fifties and sixties people you seem to be able to

659
00:31:01,373 --> 00:31:03,093
Speaker 2: smoke inside outside they seem to just be able to

660
00:31:03,173 --> 00:31:06,493
Speaker 2: change smoke one to the other. Right, Yes, but smoking now,

661
00:31:07,253 --> 00:31:08,733
Speaker 2: you've got to walk a long way before you can

662
00:31:08,773 --> 00:31:10,893
Speaker 2: have a cigarette in any workplace. It's so hard to

663
00:31:10,933 --> 00:31:14,333
Speaker 2: have a cigarette. But the amount of whatever's in vapes,

664
00:31:14,573 --> 00:31:17,253
Speaker 2: what'll be interesting is just the volume, yes, that goes

665
00:31:17,293 --> 00:31:21,453
Speaker 2: through the system compared to people smoking now, because maybe

666
00:31:21,493 --> 00:31:23,893
Speaker 2: there's a tiny amount of formaldehyde in there, but there's

667
00:31:23,933 --> 00:31:25,053
Speaker 2: a lot of vaping going on.

668
00:31:25,413 --> 00:31:27,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're being on re Thank you very

669
00:31:28,013 --> 00:31:30,933
Speaker 3: much for your care and your thoughts on that one.

670
00:31:31,013 --> 00:31:32,413
Speaker 3: And you did work at the call face for a

671
00:31:32,493 --> 00:31:33,893
Speaker 3: week while there. So what do you say, oh eight

672
00:31:33,973 --> 00:31:35,733
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty do you agree with ree?

673
00:31:36,333 --> 00:31:38,213
Speaker 3: Or if you've heard the study and you are a

674
00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:39,973
Speaker 3: vapor are you going to keep doing it? Nine two

675
00:31:40,093 --> 00:31:42,813
Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number? Beg fory shortly it

676
00:31:42,933 --> 00:31:44,053
Speaker 3: is sixteen to two.

677
00:31:44,573 --> 00:31:47,493
Speaker 2: Tyler, you are talking like an adult addict, says this texter.

678
00:31:47,693 --> 00:31:49,693
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of truth to that. Probably back of

679
00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:50,173
Speaker 4: the mow.

680
00:31:51,173 --> 00:31:54,773
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons taking your calls on

681
00:31:54,933 --> 00:31:57,733
Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred and eighty eight, where's Skoda? Can you

682
00:31:57,813 --> 00:32:01,133
Speaker 1: crag the god? Please go to codes every day news dogs,

683
00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:01,413
Speaker 1: they'd be.

684
00:32:01,933 --> 00:32:03,413
Speaker 4: It is thirteen two two.

685
00:32:03,533 --> 00:32:05,973
Speaker 3: So we are talking about your research out of Australia

686
00:32:06,653 --> 00:32:10,853
Speaker 3: that shows the strongest evidence yet they say that vaping

687
00:32:10,933 --> 00:32:15,413
Speaker 3: nicotine will lead to or likely cause lung in oral cancers.

688
00:32:15,853 --> 00:32:18,973
Speaker 2: I smoke for twenty years, says Phil, and now vape

689
00:32:19,133 --> 00:32:21,053
Speaker 2: a bit, but I'm thinking of starting smoking again. Just

690
00:32:21,173 --> 00:32:24,533
Speaker 2: can cannot stop the vaping. I do vape way more

691
00:32:24,573 --> 00:32:26,173
Speaker 2: than I smoke. See now this is what my son

692
00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:28,093
Speaker 2: was saying to me. He was saying that his mates

693
00:32:28,773 --> 00:32:30,893
Speaker 2: are getting back on are getting on the darts to

694
00:32:30,933 --> 00:32:33,773
Speaker 2: get off the vaping. So they're getting on the cigarettes

695
00:32:33,773 --> 00:32:36,933
Speaker 2: to get off the vaping. So these are eighteen and

696
00:32:37,053 --> 00:32:39,053
Speaker 2: nineteen year old boys. They're like, they've been vaping so

697
00:32:39,253 --> 00:32:41,973
Speaker 2: much that they figure that the darts is the way out.

698
00:32:42,133 --> 00:32:43,813
Speaker 3: Just to self regulate, because you can only do it

699
00:32:43,853 --> 00:32:44,973
Speaker 3: in certain places.

700
00:32:45,093 --> 00:32:47,733
Speaker 2: You can only afford so many darts. Yeah, you can

701
00:32:47,773 --> 00:32:49,773
Speaker 2: only yeah, exactly, it's limited when they can do it,

702
00:32:49,813 --> 00:32:52,573
Speaker 2: whereas they can just vape everywhere and constantly, it's never stopping.

703
00:32:53,293 --> 00:32:56,573
Speaker 2: So that's an unforeseen circumstance of the government's plan in

704
00:32:56,613 --> 00:33:00,093
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen to get people off smoking by getting onto vaping.

705
00:33:00,133 --> 00:33:02,533
Speaker 2: That now some of the young kids are getting back

706
00:33:02,533 --> 00:33:03,013
Speaker 2: on the darts.

707
00:33:03,093 --> 00:33:03,693
Speaker 4: Full circle.

708
00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:06,853
Speaker 2: But my thing, the governments needed to do nothing and

709
00:33:07,093 --> 00:33:10,573
Speaker 2: cigarettes were disappearing. They're so expensive now, I mean, they're

710
00:33:10,573 --> 00:33:12,173
Speaker 2: pretty cheap on the black market and that's a whole

711
00:33:12,213 --> 00:33:15,453
Speaker 2: other problem that's coming through right now. Yes, but they

712
00:33:17,053 --> 00:33:20,253
Speaker 2: I mean, if you jumped on a time machine and

713
00:33:20,293 --> 00:33:23,453
Speaker 2: went back to nineteen ninety five, just ninety ninety six,

714
00:33:23,533 --> 00:33:27,653
Speaker 2: they say, yep, everywhere you'd lock there be people smoking,

715
00:33:28,013 --> 00:33:29,933
Speaker 2: and now they just as it. You just it's really

716
00:33:30,053 --> 00:33:33,453
Speaker 2: rare to see someone smoking dropped off a cliff absolutely everywhere.

717
00:33:33,453 --> 00:33:35,093
Speaker 2: If you went back in nine ninety six, you'd noticed

718
00:33:35,093 --> 00:33:38,013
Speaker 2: that no one's steering down at their phone's doom scrolling. Yes,

719
00:33:38,213 --> 00:33:40,973
Speaker 2: so that has got a lot worse because there's nothing

720
00:33:41,013 --> 00:33:43,093
Speaker 2: do to go. But people went smoking, So the smoking

721
00:33:43,213 --> 00:33:44,053
Speaker 2: was dropping off a cliff.

722
00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:45,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was on the way out.

723
00:33:45,173 --> 00:33:48,533
Speaker 2: And now it feels like it's you know, introducing you know,

724
00:33:48,573 --> 00:33:50,973
Speaker 2: when you introduce a wasp to deal with a you

725
00:33:51,053 --> 00:33:52,653
Speaker 2: know or whatever problem and then you certainly got a

726
00:33:52,693 --> 00:33:55,053
Speaker 2: trillion wasp. It seems like that, doesn't it's trod on

727
00:33:55,093 --> 00:33:58,333
Speaker 2: analogy introducing vaping to get rid of you know, bringing

728
00:33:58,413 --> 00:34:01,093
Speaker 2: legalizing vaping, getting through the system to deal with smoking. Yeah,

729
00:34:01,213 --> 00:34:03,293
Speaker 2: it's like now I've got stoats everywhere.

730
00:34:03,373 --> 00:34:06,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's spot on. In what's your thoughts on

731
00:34:06,173 --> 00:34:06,453
Speaker 3: this one?

732
00:34:08,573 --> 00:34:11,172
Speaker 19: I said, a great show by late this asspoon really

733
00:34:11,533 --> 00:34:16,732
Speaker 19: enjoying it. I've just basically two and a half three

734
00:34:16,773 --> 00:34:20,213
Speaker 19: weeks ago, given up the vape and man, it's exactly

735
00:34:20,333 --> 00:34:22,813
Speaker 19: what you're talking about. It's the volume, And I was

736
00:34:22,893 --> 00:34:24,933
Speaker 19: just like an eighteen nineteen year old. I had to

737
00:34:24,973 --> 00:34:27,053
Speaker 19: take up the darts actually just to have that little

738
00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:30,172
Speaker 19: nicotine sort of rush, just to try and give it up.

739
00:34:30,213 --> 00:34:33,133
Speaker 19: And I mean I vape everywhere. I had it under

740
00:34:33,173 --> 00:34:35,652
Speaker 19: my pillow at night and i'd wake up, I'd take

741
00:34:35,693 --> 00:34:38,493
Speaker 19: a vape. If I was on an Nyslan flight down

742
00:34:38,533 --> 00:34:40,773
Speaker 19: to christ Shesh, I'd have a vape in the toilets.

743
00:34:41,213 --> 00:34:43,733
Speaker 19: I've even done it, international flights, you name it, did

744
00:34:43,773 --> 00:34:46,053
Speaker 19: it everywhere. And I think it's just a volume because

745
00:34:46,053 --> 00:34:47,853
Speaker 19: you can just do it and get away with it.

746
00:34:47,973 --> 00:34:48,653
Speaker 2: Doesn't think.

747
00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:52,893
Speaker 7: As my health as I've.

748
00:34:52,933 --> 00:34:56,613
Speaker 19: Developed a really bad cough right and that's what's causing

749
00:34:56,653 --> 00:35:00,453
Speaker 19: the wife and kids concern. So that I just said, okay,

750
00:35:00,733 --> 00:35:02,853
Speaker 19: give it up, just give it a go. But I'm

751
00:35:02,893 --> 00:35:04,733
Speaker 19: not going to preach and tell people what they should do,

752
00:35:04,853 --> 00:35:07,293
Speaker 19: because I just think everyone's got to make their own choices.

753
00:35:07,413 --> 00:35:10,053
Speaker 19: But I I actually do think it's worse than smoking.

754
00:35:10,933 --> 00:35:12,893
Speaker 2: It's the habit of it, isn't its a big part

755
00:35:12,933 --> 00:35:15,813
Speaker 2: of as well. Because have you tried nicotine gum or

756
00:35:15,853 --> 00:35:16,813
Speaker 2: patches or anything like that.

757
00:35:16,973 --> 00:35:19,813
Speaker 10: In No, I haven't.

758
00:35:19,853 --> 00:35:22,212
Speaker 19: I actually just prefer having something in the head Yeah,

759
00:35:22,533 --> 00:35:24,213
Speaker 19: there's always there's always been a big part of it

760
00:35:24,333 --> 00:35:24,652
Speaker 19: as well.

761
00:35:24,773 --> 00:35:27,013
Speaker 7: Yeah, of course with a vape that's just more and

762
00:35:27,093 --> 00:35:27,973
Speaker 7: more accessible as.

763
00:35:27,893 --> 00:35:28,493
Speaker 19: To what you can do.

764
00:35:28,973 --> 00:35:31,493
Speaker 7: Yeah, so right now I'm going.

765
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:34,653
Speaker 19: Through now Extra is I'm probably the best customer for

766
00:35:34,813 --> 00:35:36,133
Speaker 19: Extra sugar free gum.

767
00:35:38,173 --> 00:35:39,573
Speaker 10: But it's just having that something to do.

768
00:35:39,733 --> 00:35:43,253
Speaker 19: But it's honestly, it's once you start, it's so difficult

769
00:35:43,253 --> 00:35:45,573
Speaker 19: as well. It just it's in every part of your day.

770
00:35:46,013 --> 00:35:47,013
Speaker 19: So wouldn't you go to give up?

771
00:35:47,293 --> 00:35:50,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, yes, it is automatic, automatic looking

772
00:35:50,973 --> 00:35:51,733
Speaker 2: for it, reaching for it.

773
00:35:52,013 --> 00:35:52,733
Speaker 4: That's psychological.

774
00:35:53,253 --> 00:35:55,373
Speaker 2: When I vape for a little bit, what struck me

775
00:35:55,453 --> 00:35:57,173
Speaker 2: as I'd get in my car and I'd realize I

776
00:35:57,213 --> 00:35:58,772
Speaker 2: didn't have the vapor or I couldn't see it because

777
00:35:58,773 --> 00:36:00,533
Speaker 2: it was a little black thing. You couldn't find it,

778
00:36:00,573 --> 00:36:02,933
Speaker 2: and you'd start to panic. Ye hardlight, we'd go up

779
00:36:02,933 --> 00:36:05,373
Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, you know you're addicted. If you'll

780
00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:08,253
Speaker 2: turn around, you've driven out the drive and you're in

781
00:36:08,373 --> 00:36:09,933
Speaker 2: your way to work and you'll turn around for something,

782
00:36:09,973 --> 00:36:11,053
Speaker 2: because you'll do that for your phone.

783
00:36:11,173 --> 00:36:11,373
Speaker 6: Yep.

784
00:36:11,453 --> 00:36:13,813
Speaker 2: If you start doing that for the vait, then you.

785
00:36:13,893 --> 00:36:14,133
Speaker 16: Know that.

786
00:36:15,813 --> 00:36:17,493
Speaker 19: You and your charger as well.

787
00:36:17,813 --> 00:36:21,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, so long how long since you've you've

788
00:36:22,133 --> 00:36:23,973
Speaker 2: been you've you've kicked it and you've got on the

789
00:36:24,013 --> 00:36:26,493
Speaker 2: extra in So it's.

790
00:36:26,373 --> 00:36:27,213
Speaker 10: Been three weeks.

791
00:36:27,453 --> 00:36:30,493
Speaker 19: But I've been, like I was long term smoker, and

792
00:36:30,533 --> 00:36:32,692
Speaker 19: I sort of the reason I took up with vath

793
00:36:32,853 --> 00:36:34,173
Speaker 19: was that I could get away with it where I

794
00:36:34,213 --> 00:36:37,293
Speaker 19: couldn't get away was smoking so much. And it came

795
00:36:37,373 --> 00:36:39,813
Speaker 19: to be, you know, from a society was speakive and

796
00:36:39,893 --> 00:36:43,253
Speaker 19: a wife perspective not so much, you know, appreciated. So

797
00:36:43,453 --> 00:36:45,293
Speaker 19: with the vaping I could even I could hide that

798
00:36:45,413 --> 00:36:48,692
Speaker 19: from her as well. Yeah, it was just an easy,

799
00:36:48,893 --> 00:36:49,573
Speaker 19: easy thing to do.

800
00:36:49,853 --> 00:36:53,293
Speaker 2: We'll go well in and all the best. Yeah, yeah, right,

801
00:36:53,373 --> 00:36:54,493
Speaker 2: it is eight minutes to two.

802
00:36:54,573 --> 00:36:57,053
Speaker 3: Will be back very shortly, taking your calls, Oh, one

803
00:36:57,093 --> 00:36:58,133
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty.

804
00:36:59,093 --> 00:37:02,653
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

805
00:37:02,653 --> 00:37:06,013
Speaker 1: and eighty Tight, it's Mad Heath and Taylor Adams. Afternoons

806
00:37:06,213 --> 00:37:06,813
Speaker 1: news talk.

807
00:37:07,773 --> 00:37:10,653
Speaker 3: News talk becauzedb So we aren't talking about new research

808
00:37:10,693 --> 00:37:14,013
Speaker 3: out of Australia that says it's by far the strongest

809
00:37:14,093 --> 00:37:17,933
Speaker 3: evidence that vaping nicotine will likely cause lung an oral

810
00:37:17,973 --> 00:37:19,613
Speaker 3: cancer if you're a vapor is it going to change

811
00:37:19,693 --> 00:37:20,733
Speaker 3: anything for you?

812
00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:23,773
Speaker 2: Or has it been a net positive for you? And

813
00:37:23,813 --> 00:37:25,292
Speaker 2: I will say I'm an example.

814
00:37:24,973 --> 00:37:28,293
Speaker 3: Of one person I can clearly see vaping around the

815
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,053
Speaker 3: country has probably been a net nie each year. It

816
00:37:30,093 --> 00:37:32,053
Speaker 3: has been a net negative for New Zealand. But for

817
00:37:32,213 --> 00:37:34,013
Speaker 3: me it has been a net positive. It got me

818
00:37:34,093 --> 00:37:37,653
Speaker 3: off the tobacco cigarettes and hand on heart, I haven't.

819
00:37:37,653 --> 00:37:39,772
Speaker 3: I've only had two cigarettes in the last twelve months.

820
00:37:39,813 --> 00:37:41,933
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, and how many and that as

821
00:37:42,013 --> 00:37:43,653
Speaker 2: opposed to like how many a day.

822
00:37:43,733 --> 00:37:46,133
Speaker 4: Oh, a packa day, pack and a half a day.

823
00:37:46,573 --> 00:37:46,772
Speaker 6: Yep.

824
00:37:46,893 --> 00:37:49,893
Speaker 3: I was at that level before I switched over to vaping.

825
00:37:50,373 --> 00:37:51,773
Speaker 3: So for me, that's going to be less of a

826
00:37:51,853 --> 00:37:55,053
Speaker 3: drain on the health system, hopefully in twenty thirty forty

827
00:37:55,133 --> 00:37:58,293
Speaker 3: years time. Then if I was smoking cigarettes, but I

828
00:37:58,453 --> 00:37:59,853
Speaker 3: know that it's not good for me and I want

829
00:37:59,893 --> 00:38:01,413
Speaker 3: to get off it eventually. But for me, it's been

830
00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:02,253
Speaker 3: a net benefit.

831
00:38:02,693 --> 00:38:06,252
Speaker 2: This Texas says anything you breathe in, you idiots, other

832
00:38:06,373 --> 00:38:10,652
Speaker 2: than oxygen, is of bad for you. Well I've got

833
00:38:10,693 --> 00:38:13,693
Speaker 2: some bad news for you, Texter. Good the air that

834
00:38:13,773 --> 00:38:15,692
Speaker 2: you breathe in and is made up of seventy eight

835
00:38:15,693 --> 00:38:18,293
Speaker 2: percent nitrogen, so you're already getting a lot moreton it's

836
00:38:18,333 --> 00:38:21,453
Speaker 2: only about twenty one percent oxygen, and you've got some

837
00:38:21,613 --> 00:38:23,573
Speaker 2: arg on in there. You've got a very very small

838
00:38:23,613 --> 00:38:26,413
Speaker 2: about it coming dock side just under zero point zero

839
00:38:26,653 --> 00:38:29,573
Speaker 2: four percent, and then you've got about maybe three percent

840
00:38:29,653 --> 00:38:32,973
Speaker 2: water vapor. So yeah, you're already you're already sucking some

841
00:38:33,053 --> 00:38:33,493
Speaker 2: other stuff in.

842
00:38:34,053 --> 00:38:34,453
Speaker 4: Good to know.

843
00:38:34,853 --> 00:38:36,213
Speaker 3: All right, we're going to carry this song for a

844
00:38:36,253 --> 00:38:39,693
Speaker 3: little while after two o'clock. Share your experiences. O eight

845
00:38:39,813 --> 00:38:42,413
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've got off vaping,

846
00:38:42,973 --> 00:38:45,293
Speaker 3: love to hear from you. If you are still vaping,

847
00:38:45,413 --> 00:38:48,293
Speaker 3: because it means you're not smoking cigarettes, then keen on

848
00:38:48,373 --> 00:38:50,133
Speaker 3: your story as well. I eight hundred and eighty ten

849
00:38:50,173 --> 00:38:52,573
Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call. And the studies like this,

850
00:38:52,773 --> 00:38:54,573
Speaker 3: and there's going to be more of them that come out.

851
00:38:54,893 --> 00:38:56,853
Speaker 3: Does it change the way that you think about it?

852
00:38:57,053 --> 00:39:00,133
Speaker 3: One IODA nine two ninety two is the text number

853
00:39:00,293 --> 00:39:03,013
Speaker 3: new Sport and weather is fast approaching. Great, have your

854
00:39:03,053 --> 00:39:06,013
Speaker 3: company on this Tuesday afternoon. You are listening to Matt

855
00:39:06,053 --> 00:39:08,293
Speaker 3: and Tyler. You just stay right here, will be bad

856
00:39:09,053 --> 00:39:09,853
Speaker 3: very study.

857
00:39:11,893 --> 00:39:13,652
Speaker 20: Five Brown in.

858
00:39:16,413 --> 00:39:17,613
Speaker 6: Five known Brow.

859
00:39:20,853 --> 00:39:26,733
Speaker 2: Fives should be five known Brown.

860
00:39:28,173 --> 00:39:32,333
Speaker 1: Love, big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

861
00:39:32,733 --> 00:39:35,813
Speaker 1: everything in between. And it's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

862
00:39:35,933 --> 00:39:41,093
Speaker 1: Afternoon Squid Shodder News Talk said the very good afternoon.

863
00:39:41,213 --> 00:39:42,453
Speaker 4: You welcome back into the show.

864
00:39:42,653 --> 00:39:46,013
Speaker 3: It is six past two, so we are going to

865
00:39:46,053 --> 00:39:49,213
Speaker 3: carry on just for a little while our discussion about vaping.

866
00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:51,573
Speaker 3: This is after new research from the University of New

867
00:39:51,613 --> 00:39:55,413
Speaker 3: South Wales seems to indicate vapes containing nicotine are likely

868
00:39:55,493 --> 00:39:58,893
Speaker 3: to cause lung and oral cancers. So they brought together

869
00:39:58,973 --> 00:40:02,133
Speaker 3: a range of evidence including mouse studies, case reports, biomarcus

870
00:40:02,173 --> 00:40:06,093
Speaker 3: studies in humans and chemical analysis of the ingredients to

871
00:40:06,813 --> 00:40:08,893
Speaker 3: deliver that finding. And they say it by far the

872
00:40:09,093 --> 00:40:12,773
Speaker 3: strongest evidence that vapes were likely to cause cancer. But

873
00:40:12,853 --> 00:40:15,173
Speaker 3: if you are a vapor does that change anything for you?

874
00:40:15,293 --> 00:40:18,533
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty And have they been

875
00:40:18,693 --> 00:40:20,973
Speaker 3: a net positive for you? If you were a smoker

876
00:40:21,253 --> 00:40:23,413
Speaker 3: and you've managed to transition to vapes, and if you've

877
00:40:23,453 --> 00:40:26,413
Speaker 3: got off the vapes, keen on your story as well.

878
00:40:26,573 --> 00:40:29,013
Speaker 2: The six says omg Now the alternative to smoking the

879
00:40:29,013 --> 00:40:30,813
Speaker 2: government pours down our throats is actually worse.

880
00:40:30,893 --> 00:40:31,173
Speaker 7: For us.

881
00:40:31,813 --> 00:40:35,053
Speaker 2: Lowell, make your own decisions people. I don't think even

882
00:40:35,133 --> 00:40:41,053
Speaker 2: this Australian study is saying that that vaping is worse

883
00:40:41,133 --> 00:40:43,093
Speaker 2: for you than smoking. I think I think it's quite

884
00:40:43,093 --> 00:40:46,573
Speaker 2: clear that smoking is terrible. Yes, there is just some

885
00:40:46,933 --> 00:40:52,693
Speaker 2: biomarkers now to suggest that in this study that vaping

886
00:40:52,853 --> 00:40:55,373
Speaker 2: may potentially have carcinogenic effects.

887
00:40:55,573 --> 00:40:55,772
Speaker 4: Yep.

888
00:40:56,573 --> 00:40:59,813
Speaker 2: And that was compared because the study compared vaping to

889
00:40:59,973 --> 00:41:02,573
Speaker 2: non vaping, as opposed to most other studies have compared

890
00:41:02,653 --> 00:41:05,573
Speaker 2: vaping to smoking. And when you do that, vaping isn't

891
00:41:05,573 --> 00:41:07,773
Speaker 2: as bad as smoking. Hence why we have this government,

892
00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,813
Speaker 2: you know, the government, the situation in New Zealand where

893
00:41:12,493 --> 00:41:15,253
Speaker 2: we're actually trying to push people onto vaping from smoking

894
00:41:15,333 --> 00:41:16,173
Speaker 2: to get them off smoking.

895
00:41:16,253 --> 00:41:17,213
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, exactly.

896
00:41:17,413 --> 00:41:20,133
Speaker 2: But what this study does is compare vaping to not vaping,

897
00:41:20,453 --> 00:41:22,853
Speaker 2: and when you can veer vaping to not vaping, would

898
00:41:22,853 --> 00:41:26,413
Speaker 2: appear that vaping is worse than not vaping. Yeah, and

899
00:41:26,853 --> 00:41:31,253
Speaker 2: there is some suggestion that, And he said it's almost

900
00:41:31,333 --> 00:41:34,653
Speaker 2: certain that when we've had enough time to study, we

901
00:41:34,733 --> 00:41:37,373
Speaker 2: will find out that smoking is a castle, vaping is

902
00:41:37,413 --> 00:41:40,933
Speaker 2: a castongen. Yes, yeah, yeah, but I don't think they're

903
00:41:40,973 --> 00:41:43,253
Speaker 2: even they're saying that it's worse than smoking.

904
00:41:43,613 --> 00:41:44,893
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah he did.

905
00:41:45,053 --> 00:41:47,453
Speaker 3: He was questioned on that by Ryan Bridge when Ryan

906
00:41:47,533 --> 00:41:49,773
Speaker 3: spoke to him on the Herald now, and he did

907
00:41:49,893 --> 00:41:52,813
Speaker 3: say that, No, there's no indication that it is worse

908
00:41:52,893 --> 00:41:56,213
Speaker 3: than smoking, and they can't make any sort of definitive

909
00:41:56,253 --> 00:41:58,213
Speaker 3: call on that. But for you, if you are a

910
00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:02,893
Speaker 3: vapor does this change anything about how you operate with

911
00:42:03,053 --> 00:42:05,853
Speaker 3: your vaping addiction? Does that makes you more likely to

912
00:42:06,013 --> 00:42:09,453
Speaker 3: try and quit? Or has it that you've gone off

913
00:42:09,533 --> 00:42:12,093
Speaker 3: tobacco cigarettes? And that for you is a nit benefit

914
00:42:12,213 --> 00:42:14,652
Speaker 3: in itself. Nine two niney two is the text number.

915
00:42:14,973 --> 00:42:16,893
Speaker 2: The six is No, it's not every part of your day.

916
00:42:16,973 --> 00:42:19,333
Speaker 2: Vaping that is and only is for you if you

917
00:42:19,453 --> 00:42:21,613
Speaker 2: allow it to be like it was with smoking. I

918
00:42:21,693 --> 00:42:23,053
Speaker 2: used to be a smoking. Now I vape, but it

919
00:42:23,093 --> 00:42:25,413
Speaker 2: doesn't occupy my whole day because I only have a

920
00:42:25,493 --> 00:42:27,333
Speaker 2: vape once I get home at night. I don't take

921
00:42:27,373 --> 00:42:32,493
Speaker 2: it out with me. And it definitely not worse than smoking. Shit,

922
00:42:32,613 --> 00:42:35,933
Speaker 2: my lungs are clearing out nicely. Okay, okay, well it

923
00:42:36,093 --> 00:42:38,133
Speaker 2: is a nit benefit of that's true. Wow, it's not.

924
00:42:38,213 --> 00:42:40,373
Speaker 2: I tell you what your mouth isn't cleaning out nicely.

925
00:42:40,493 --> 00:42:40,813
Speaker 7: That was it.

926
00:42:41,213 --> 00:42:42,613
Speaker 2: I need to get some soap in there. With that

927
00:42:42,733 --> 00:42:45,133
Speaker 2: kind of very clear language, with that one that kind

928
00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:47,533
Speaker 2: of language. Why actually it's not your throat. The texted it,

929
00:42:47,613 --> 00:42:49,453
Speaker 2: and I didn't actually need to read that out, did I?

930
00:42:49,853 --> 00:42:52,253
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, but it is for some people. I

931
00:42:52,373 --> 00:42:55,613
Speaker 2: think just because you happen to text it to be

932
00:42:55,653 --> 00:42:57,692
Speaker 2: able to just have your vape at home. I think

933
00:42:57,733 --> 00:43:00,853
Speaker 2: anyone that's seen the habits around vaping would have seen

934
00:43:01,733 --> 00:43:06,493
Speaker 2: how much people that vape vape. It's like chain smoking

935
00:43:06,533 --> 00:43:08,293
Speaker 2: back in the day. But if I go with my friend,

936
00:43:08,493 --> 00:43:08,973
Speaker 2: is that vape?

937
00:43:09,373 --> 00:43:09,533
Speaker 8: You know?

938
00:43:09,613 --> 00:43:11,692
Speaker 2: If I go for lunch, they just vape bait, vakee, bape, pape,

939
00:43:11,693 --> 00:43:13,812
Speaker 2: but just vaping the whole time you walk down the street.

940
00:43:13,813 --> 00:43:16,173
Speaker 2: It's just NonStop. Yeah, right, because it's so easy to

941
00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:18,212
Speaker 2: got on you that you just have your vapor. A yeah,

942
00:43:18,653 --> 00:43:22,853
Speaker 2: But there's no doubt that it's that it has less

943
00:43:22,893 --> 00:43:26,013
Speaker 2: of a social effect than smoking. If someone's smoking in

944
00:43:26,533 --> 00:43:29,853
Speaker 2: a restaurant, everyone single person would know. If someone's vaping,

945
00:43:30,053 --> 00:43:31,653
Speaker 2: just a little one under their collar, no one wouldn't know.

946
00:43:31,893 --> 00:43:33,373
Speaker 2: Sneak off to the loo and have a wee vape.

947
00:43:34,173 --> 00:43:36,053
Speaker 2: If you ever go home to the missus, she's going

948
00:43:36,093 --> 00:43:37,733
Speaker 2: to know that you've smoked a cigarette. Oh hell, but

949
00:43:37,933 --> 00:43:42,013
Speaker 2: she may not know that you've been been sucking on

950
00:43:42,253 --> 00:43:44,053
Speaker 2: the pepperminty douche.

951
00:43:44,053 --> 00:43:48,093
Speaker 3: Rey, do very very nicely, Potts, Paul Lane, you are

952
00:43:48,173 --> 00:43:50,973
Speaker 3: fifty eight and you've given up smoking and you're now vaping.

953
00:43:51,853 --> 00:43:54,773
Speaker 18: Yeah, hi, guys, said, lovely show. You know, I just

954
00:43:54,853 --> 00:43:58,093
Speaker 18: sort on the first one caller, but it does. My

955
00:43:58,253 --> 00:44:03,693
Speaker 18: story is I started smoking, probably as a teenager hiding

956
00:44:03,733 --> 00:44:07,373
Speaker 18: behind the wall at school, and continued being quite a

957
00:44:07,453 --> 00:44:11,893
Speaker 18: heavy smoker to the age of about two years ago.

958
00:44:13,653 --> 00:44:20,253
Speaker 2: Make a long story, happy smoker, Pauling, No, it's heavy. Sorry,

959
00:44:20,893 --> 00:44:23,973
Speaker 2: it's very different from very different.

960
00:44:26,853 --> 00:44:29,093
Speaker 18: Make a long story short. But the way I stopped

961
00:44:29,093 --> 00:44:33,812
Speaker 18: smoking was my drive long distance rental cows for a living,

962
00:44:33,973 --> 00:44:36,413
Speaker 18: and well, one day I was driving to Auckland and

963
00:44:36,533 --> 00:44:39,093
Speaker 18: a tourist that obviously left a full box with an

964
00:44:39,253 --> 00:44:43,693
Speaker 18: unopened vapor in the dashboard mm hmm, and I thought, oh,

965
00:44:43,773 --> 00:44:46,893
Speaker 18: that's interesting, I'll give it a try. So I opened

966
00:44:46,933 --> 00:44:49,733
Speaker 18: it on the way because obviously you can't can't smoke

967
00:44:49,893 --> 00:44:52,813
Speaker 18: within a vehicle and without a word of an eye

968
00:44:52,853 --> 00:44:56,172
Speaker 18: By the time I got to Auckland, I was happy, right,

969
00:44:56,773 --> 00:44:58,573
Speaker 18: and I never touched a cigarette again?

970
00:44:58,893 --> 00:44:59,173
Speaker 2: Wow?

971
00:45:00,333 --> 00:45:01,933
Speaker 21: So so how long?

972
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:06,173
Speaker 2: So you just didn't and then you know, did you

973
00:45:06,213 --> 00:45:08,373
Speaker 2: have cigarettes left? You just never bought any more.

974
00:45:08,453 --> 00:45:10,653
Speaker 18: Cigarette deft I got home, I put them in the

975
00:45:11,173 --> 00:45:14,533
Speaker 18: coffee table drawer, and a couple of weeks later I

976
00:45:14,693 --> 00:45:18,172
Speaker 18: gave them to a neighbor. Wow, and vaping took over,

977
00:45:19,293 --> 00:45:21,853
Speaker 18: just tullie out of sheer luck that there was an

978
00:45:21,933 --> 00:45:26,652
Speaker 18: unopened packet in the car I was driving. Yeah, the unfortunate.

979
00:45:26,773 --> 00:45:29,973
Speaker 18: The downside is two years later, I'm still on the vape.

980
00:45:30,093 --> 00:45:34,653
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you noticed a health difference between smoking and vaping? Pulling?

981
00:45:35,493 --> 00:45:41,093
Speaker 18: Absolutely? I used to take a lot of ventil in haters,

982
00:45:42,693 --> 00:45:45,893
Speaker 18: and the moment I started the vape, I haven't touched

983
00:45:45,893 --> 00:45:50,373
Speaker 18: one since. The doctors kept prescribing them and I kept

984
00:45:51,093 --> 00:45:52,893
Speaker 18: picking them up, but I never needed it.

985
00:45:53,773 --> 00:45:56,933
Speaker 2: Right, So are you worried about vaping? Is vaping something

986
00:45:57,053 --> 00:45:59,013
Speaker 2: that you were looking to get off? Pulling?

987
00:46:00,093 --> 00:46:03,733
Speaker 18: Absolutely, it's just probably at that point at the moment,

988
00:46:03,813 --> 00:46:07,613
Speaker 18: it's become a little bit of a crutch where it's

989
00:46:07,693 --> 00:46:08,973
Speaker 18: constantly in your hands.

990
00:46:09,013 --> 00:46:09,573
Speaker 1: Where do you go?

991
00:46:10,053 --> 00:46:14,093
Speaker 18: Yea even to the point embarrassing me. When you're indoors,

992
00:46:14,253 --> 00:46:16,653
Speaker 18: you sort of take it to the toilet with you.

993
00:46:18,933 --> 00:46:21,453
Speaker 18: I was at Auckland Airport this morning to slide back

994
00:46:21,493 --> 00:46:24,813
Speaker 18: to Wellington, and you know, I'm not going to lie,

995
00:46:24,933 --> 00:46:26,533
Speaker 18: that's what you do. You think I'll just have a

996
00:46:26,613 --> 00:46:28,253
Speaker 18: quick puff before I get on the plane.

997
00:46:28,413 --> 00:46:31,693
Speaker 3: See a few few suspects going there, and I know

998
00:46:31,813 --> 00:46:32,693
Speaker 3: exactly what they're up to.

999
00:46:34,453 --> 00:46:38,413
Speaker 2: Does hearing this study out of Australia that's suggesting what

1000
00:46:38,493 --> 00:46:42,333
Speaker 2: they said? Almost certainly in time they'll discover that vaping

1001
00:46:43,373 --> 00:46:47,013
Speaker 2: has a carcinogenic effect. Does that affect your your your

1002
00:46:47,093 --> 00:46:48,413
Speaker 2: thought process around this at all.

1003
00:46:48,413 --> 00:46:54,692
Speaker 22: Pauline, I guess you think about things like that a lot.

1004
00:46:55,013 --> 00:46:58,453
Speaker 18: But in a sense there's a hick of a lot

1005
00:46:58,533 --> 00:47:00,812
Speaker 18: in life that can affect your future health.

1006
00:47:01,213 --> 00:47:01,413
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1007
00:47:04,173 --> 00:47:06,773
Speaker 18: Yeah, Unfortunately it's still a bit of a crutch that

1008
00:47:07,693 --> 00:47:11,133
Speaker 18: would love to go off. And you know the smoking

1009
00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:13,573
Speaker 18: was a cost, but now the vaping.

1010
00:47:13,413 --> 00:47:14,453
Speaker 7: Is still a cost.

1011
00:47:15,653 --> 00:47:17,213
Speaker 2: How much how are you spending on vaping?

1012
00:47:18,053 --> 00:47:21,453
Speaker 18: Oh, to be honest, it's only twenty dollars.

1013
00:47:21,213 --> 00:47:25,253
Speaker 2: A week, and what flavor you're going for? All I'm

1014
00:47:25,253 --> 00:47:26,013
Speaker 2: asking questions?

1015
00:47:27,093 --> 00:47:31,652
Speaker 18: Well, that's embarrassing because there's a at my age, it's

1016
00:47:32,053 --> 00:47:34,013
Speaker 18: you know, it's almost like you're out there buying a

1017
00:47:34,053 --> 00:47:35,053
Speaker 18: bloody bubblegum or.

1018
00:47:35,093 --> 00:47:41,973
Speaker 2: Something something sweet fair enough to Pauline. Well, thank you

1019
00:47:42,093 --> 00:47:44,453
Speaker 2: for calling us for the first time, Pauline, and thank

1020
00:47:44,493 --> 00:47:46,253
Speaker 2: you for listening, thank you for sharing your story.

1021
00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:49,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean thank god for that tourist in Pauline's

1022
00:47:49,093 --> 00:47:51,333
Speaker 3: case that they left that vape there and she stopped

1023
00:47:51,373 --> 00:47:53,813
Speaker 3: the heavy smoking, because I think for her, you know,

1024
00:47:53,893 --> 00:47:55,933
Speaker 3: she wants to get off the vape. But here's what

1025
00:47:56,013 --> 00:47:59,253
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Another example of Pauline was a heavy smoker.

1026
00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:02,013
Speaker 3: It was costing her a fortune in money and health.

1027
00:48:02,133 --> 00:48:02,893
Speaker 4: Now she's vaping.

1028
00:48:02,973 --> 00:48:05,733
Speaker 2: It's still not great for her, but it's better than smoking.

1029
00:48:06,253 --> 00:48:09,053
Speaker 2: The stick says, I just recently quit smoking turkey after

1030
00:48:09,213 --> 00:48:11,333
Speaker 2: eighteen years. Didn't want to swap to a vape. I

1031
00:48:11,373 --> 00:48:15,173
Speaker 2: did it by breaking my femur and oh okay and

1032
00:48:15,253 --> 00:48:17,772
Speaker 2: being in hospital for six days. Fentanyl for the first

1033
00:48:17,813 --> 00:48:20,533
Speaker 2: few days was the key. Now I feel great. When

1034
00:48:20,533 --> 00:48:22,933
Speaker 2: I read that, I thought they broke their fema. So

1035
00:48:23,013 --> 00:48:24,413
Speaker 2: they've accidentally broken their femur.

1036
00:48:24,573 --> 00:48:25,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they didn't mean too.

1037
00:48:25,893 --> 00:48:28,533
Speaker 2: Both thought I did it by I broke my femur

1038
00:48:28,613 --> 00:48:30,293
Speaker 2: and as a results, soon as you break your fema,

1039
00:48:30,893 --> 00:48:32,533
Speaker 2: when you break your fema, you get off smoking.

1040
00:48:32,653 --> 00:48:35,613
Speaker 3: That would be some dedication. Yeah, keep those teks coming through.

1041
00:48:35,653 --> 00:48:36,533
Speaker 3: On nine two nine two.

1042
00:48:36,613 --> 00:48:38,573
Speaker 2: You bring the Smokers hotline and they said, just just

1043
00:48:38,853 --> 00:48:40,493
Speaker 2: reach over and break your fema.

1044
00:48:42,053 --> 00:48:42,853
Speaker 4: That's all it takes.

1045
00:48:42,973 --> 00:48:45,213
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know a bit of fentanyl

1046
00:48:45,253 --> 00:48:47,533
Speaker 3: obviously help them, but I don't know if that's key

1047
00:48:47,613 --> 00:48:49,573
Speaker 3: for most people either. But keep those tecks coming through

1048
00:48:49,613 --> 00:48:52,293
Speaker 3: on nine to nine two. It is sixteen past two.

1049
00:48:52,373 --> 00:48:55,253
Speaker 4: Back for surely your home.

1050
00:48:55,093 --> 00:48:59,333
Speaker 1: Of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call, Oh

1051
00:48:59,413 --> 00:49:01,933
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty used talk said.

1052
00:49:01,813 --> 00:49:01,893
Speaker 11: Be.

1053
00:49:03,853 --> 00:49:06,493
Speaker 3: Afternoon to you. It is eighteen past two. So we've

1054
00:49:06,533 --> 00:49:09,853
Speaker 3: been talking about this new research out of Australia. That's

1055
00:49:09,853 --> 00:49:12,893
Speaker 3: see is they have by far the strongest evidence that

1056
00:49:13,133 --> 00:49:17,693
Speaker 3: vaping nicotine is likely to cause lung and oral cancer.

1057
00:49:17,853 --> 00:49:19,093
Speaker 4: So a couple of techs coming through.

1058
00:49:19,533 --> 00:49:22,453
Speaker 2: That's Texas great show. As always, guys, it's always the way.

1059
00:49:22,533 --> 00:49:25,053
Speaker 2: When you replace advice with a lesser advice stoats to

1060
00:49:25,133 --> 00:49:27,893
Speaker 2: fight rabbits, then you get stoats and rabbits. Yeah, that's

1061
00:49:27,933 --> 00:49:31,493
Speaker 2: kind of what I'm saying before. Yeah, I gave it smoking,

1062
00:49:31,573 --> 00:49:34,973
Speaker 2: beating chocolate. Now I'm fat as you got to hit

1063
00:49:35,013 --> 00:49:35,573
Speaker 2: the root cause?

1064
00:49:35,653 --> 00:49:37,853
Speaker 4: Boys, Yeah, well what is the root cause?

1065
00:49:38,373 --> 00:49:40,373
Speaker 2: Well, I guess what he's saying is, if you're going

1066
00:49:40,413 --> 00:49:42,613
Speaker 2: to go at smoking, give up smoking, don't replace it

1067
00:49:42,693 --> 00:49:43,252
Speaker 2: with something else.

1068
00:49:43,373 --> 00:49:43,933
Speaker 4: Cold turkey.

1069
00:49:44,133 --> 00:49:44,333
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1070
00:49:44,413 --> 00:49:47,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know a.

1071
00:49:47,053 --> 00:49:48,573
Speaker 2: Bunch of people have just been on the gum for

1072
00:49:48,733 --> 00:49:53,053
Speaker 2: years and years, and I mean there's people that you know,

1073
00:49:53,373 --> 00:49:56,853
Speaker 2: what's hard to do is build a house. Yes, giving

1074
00:49:56,933 --> 00:49:58,692
Speaker 2: up smoking is not as hard as building a house,

1075
00:49:58,733 --> 00:49:59,693
Speaker 2: and people build houses.

1076
00:49:59,813 --> 00:50:01,053
Speaker 4: Yep, right, yep, that's true.

1077
00:50:01,613 --> 00:50:03,893
Speaker 2: You know you're just stopping grabbing something, lighting it and

1078
00:50:03,933 --> 00:50:05,453
Speaker 2: putting in your face. I mean you have to do

1079
00:50:05,613 --> 00:50:08,533
Speaker 2: stuff to smoke. Yeah, I think people need to. I

1080
00:50:08,573 --> 00:50:10,133
Speaker 2: think people just get told all the time how hard

1081
00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:11,693
Speaker 2: it is. It's so hard to give up smoking. So

1082
00:50:12,173 --> 00:50:14,453
Speaker 2: my dad just gave it smoking one day, just went nah,

1083
00:50:14,613 --> 00:50:16,533
Speaker 2: put them down, never smoked again. Yeah, there are people

1084
00:50:16,573 --> 00:50:16,933
Speaker 2: who can do that.

1085
00:50:17,173 --> 00:50:19,093
Speaker 3: I think it is a psychological addiction that is the

1086
00:50:19,133 --> 00:50:20,333
Speaker 3: strongest one, and that's willpower.

1087
00:50:20,453 --> 00:50:20,533
Speaker 6: Right.

1088
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:22,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're talking about the willpower method, but it is

1089
00:50:22,613 --> 00:50:25,933
Speaker 3: it's your psychological addiction to picking that thing up, whether

1090
00:50:25,973 --> 00:50:28,493
Speaker 3: it's a vapor or sligi and having it at whatever time.

1091
00:50:28,573 --> 00:50:30,933
Speaker 3: You've got to break that spell. The nicotine addiction, from

1092
00:50:30,933 --> 00:50:34,013
Speaker 3: what I've heard, is not actually that strong. But thank

1093
00:50:34,053 --> 00:50:35,813
Speaker 3: you very much for all those texts coming through.

1094
00:50:35,933 --> 00:50:38,013
Speaker 2: Well, you're what you do is it's an exclamation mark

1095
00:50:38,093 --> 00:50:40,533
Speaker 2: on things like when you know you do something, you

1096
00:50:40,613 --> 00:50:42,373
Speaker 2: finish a day's work, you'll have a cigarette, or you'll

1097
00:50:42,453 --> 00:50:44,853
Speaker 2: have a drink or something, or you know you're celebrating

1098
00:50:44,933 --> 00:50:47,692
Speaker 2: something or you're taking a break, and then all those

1099
00:50:47,773 --> 00:50:51,333
Speaker 2: good things get associated with that action, the lighting the

1100
00:50:51,373 --> 00:50:54,133
Speaker 2: cigarette or having the vape or whatever. Yeah, exactly, but

1101
00:50:54,213 --> 00:50:57,013
Speaker 2: they're not that they're not actually related in any way

1102
00:50:57,013 --> 00:50:58,613
Speaker 2: at all except for you do them at the same time.

1103
00:50:58,773 --> 00:51:01,013
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, spot on, So I'm with this guy.

1104
00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:04,173
Speaker 2: Don't introduce stoats to get rid of the rabbits.

1105
00:51:04,373 --> 00:51:07,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, great analogy and great discussion. Thank you

1106
00:51:07,853 --> 00:51:10,453
Speaker 3: to everyone who called in text on that one want

1107
00:51:10,493 --> 00:51:12,813
Speaker 3: to change tax for the next hour or so. A

1108
00:51:12,893 --> 00:51:15,933
Speaker 3: significant number of self employed people in New Zealand are

1109
00:51:15,973 --> 00:51:19,013
Speaker 3: effectively earning less than the minimum wage. This is according

1110
00:51:19,053 --> 00:51:23,573
Speaker 3: to Inland revenue data. So while self employment offers flexibility

1111
00:51:23,653 --> 00:51:27,692
Speaker 3: and independence, it often, it appears, comes with financial instability,

1112
00:51:27,813 --> 00:51:31,293
Speaker 3: a regular work, and hidden costs that reduce actual earnings.

1113
00:51:31,373 --> 00:51:35,453
Speaker 3: So some self employed people accept lower income in exchange

1114
00:51:35,493 --> 00:51:39,133
Speaker 3: for autonomy, but experts worn this can mask underemployment and

1115
00:51:39,253 --> 00:51:44,453
Speaker 3: financial vulnerability, especially as self employment becomes more common. I mean,

1116
00:51:44,493 --> 00:51:47,213
Speaker 3: it's a fascinating article and there's a lot of numbers

1117
00:51:47,293 --> 00:51:51,733
Speaker 3: thrown around, but does self employment freedom outweigh that financial

1118
00:51:51,933 --> 00:51:54,973
Speaker 3: uncertainty that you may experience if you go self employed?

1119
00:51:55,253 --> 00:51:59,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're building something, right, you know, you feel

1120
00:51:59,213 --> 00:52:01,772
Speaker 2: that if you and like, there's no guarantees in life.

1121
00:52:01,853 --> 00:52:05,333
Speaker 2: But when you're self employed and you and you're you know,

1122
00:52:05,413 --> 00:52:08,692
Speaker 2: you're working towards something, then the sky's the limit if

1123
00:52:08,693 --> 00:52:10,853
Speaker 2: you get it right. So that's why you're willing to

1124
00:52:10,933 --> 00:52:13,693
Speaker 2: work for less than management minimum wage and deal with

1125
00:52:13,853 --> 00:52:17,573
Speaker 2: the heart the risk and the instability. Right, Yeah, isn't it?

1126
00:52:17,813 --> 00:52:20,453
Speaker 2: Isn't it all worth it for the freedom?

1127
00:52:21,173 --> 00:52:21,373
Speaker 23: Yeah?

1128
00:52:21,493 --> 00:52:22,733
Speaker 2: Well, what do you say if you've done it? Oh,

1129
00:52:22,733 --> 00:52:23,772
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1130
00:52:23,813 --> 00:52:27,253
Speaker 3: I can understand that logic, but that would terrify me

1131
00:52:27,493 --> 00:52:29,973
Speaker 3: that you've got an idea, you've got that passion behind it,

1132
00:52:30,053 --> 00:52:31,493
Speaker 3: but you know deep down you're going to have to

1133
00:52:31,533 --> 00:52:33,013
Speaker 3: put a hell of a lot of work into doing it,

1134
00:52:33,453 --> 00:52:36,252
Speaker 3: and for maybe one year, two year, three year, god,

1135
00:52:36,413 --> 00:52:39,413
Speaker 3: five years, you're going to be struggling to pay the

1136
00:52:39,453 --> 00:52:41,692
Speaker 3: bills and worried about where that money's going to come

1137
00:52:41,733 --> 00:52:41,973
Speaker 3: in through.

1138
00:52:42,013 --> 00:52:44,253
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a hell of an undertaking. I tell

1139
00:52:44,253 --> 00:52:45,893
Speaker 2: my head off to anybody who does it. Yeah, but

1140
00:52:45,973 --> 00:52:48,173
Speaker 2: what about the other risk of doing nothing and just

1141
00:52:48,253 --> 00:52:51,212
Speaker 2: being in the grind forever under someone else's thumb. You're

1142
00:52:51,373 --> 00:52:54,653
Speaker 2: not being able to make your own decisions. Yeah, No autonomy,

1143
00:52:55,173 --> 00:52:59,133
Speaker 2: just that the best and the whims of people above

1144
00:52:59,213 --> 00:53:02,533
Speaker 2: you always, you know, And how much stability do you

1145
00:53:02,613 --> 00:53:04,133
Speaker 2: really have in any given job? Anyway?

1146
00:53:04,293 --> 00:53:04,853
Speaker 4: That is true?

1147
00:53:04,933 --> 00:53:08,293
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, it's not like the old days

1148
00:53:08,333 --> 00:53:10,773
Speaker 2: where people would leave school and work in a company

1149
00:53:10,933 --> 00:53:15,413
Speaker 2: till they retired. There's always a restructure just around the corner,

1150
00:53:15,453 --> 00:53:15,733
Speaker 2: isn't this?

1151
00:53:15,973 --> 00:53:16,133
Speaker 6: Yes?

1152
00:53:16,173 --> 00:53:17,333
Speaker 4: Spot on? Absolutely so?

1153
00:53:17,413 --> 00:53:18,813
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1154
00:53:18,813 --> 00:53:21,212
Speaker 3: If you've set up your own business or you work

1155
00:53:21,293 --> 00:53:24,693
Speaker 3: for yourself, you are self employed, is that freedom worth it?

1156
00:53:24,853 --> 00:53:27,933
Speaker 3: Even if you do face a bit of financial insecurity

1157
00:53:28,053 --> 00:53:29,933
Speaker 3: in the short term or maybe for the long term

1158
00:53:29,973 --> 00:53:32,453
Speaker 3: as well. Keen on your stories. I eight hundred eighty

1159
00:53:32,613 --> 00:53:34,973
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number? Nine to nine two is

1160
00:53:35,093 --> 00:53:37,733
Speaker 3: the text as well? It is twenty three pass too.

1161
00:53:37,773 --> 00:53:39,053
Speaker 3: You're listening to news talks, he'd be.

1162
00:53:39,293 --> 00:53:41,013
Speaker 2: You've got no clue. Nicotine is one of the most

1163
00:53:41,013 --> 00:53:44,053
Speaker 2: addictive and hard substances to quit. You have absolutely no clue, really,

1164
00:53:44,093 --> 00:53:44,813
Speaker 2: because I quit.

1165
00:53:44,693 --> 00:53:45,373
Speaker 7: It like that.

1166
00:53:45,613 --> 00:53:47,093
Speaker 4: You certainly did, and well done mate.

1167
00:53:47,173 --> 00:53:49,693
Speaker 2: Yeahks take that text, Yeah, stick that up you.

1168
00:53:54,933 --> 00:53:58,573
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1169
00:53:58,653 --> 00:54:00,333
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news talks.

1170
00:54:00,213 --> 00:54:01,813
Speaker 4: V Twenty five pass too.

1171
00:54:01,893 --> 00:54:04,813
Speaker 3: So does the freedom of being self employed make up

1172
00:54:04,933 --> 00:54:07,613
Speaker 3: for any financial instability you may have to put up with? Oh,

1173
00:54:07,613 --> 00:54:10,093
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1174
00:54:10,173 --> 00:54:12,573
Speaker 3: nineteen nine two if you want to send a text.

1175
00:54:13,373 --> 00:54:15,212
Speaker 3: A couple of texts coming through.

1176
00:54:16,653 --> 00:54:19,493
Speaker 2: Biggest self employed area would be farmers. Yes, so be

1177
00:54:19,653 --> 00:54:22,692
Speaker 2: prepared to work for sixty odd years with uncertainty around

1178
00:54:22,733 --> 00:54:24,733
Speaker 2: every corner. I hope you come out with an asset

1179
00:54:24,773 --> 00:54:28,333
Speaker 2: at the end for working all those hours. Yeah, I

1180
00:54:28,413 --> 00:54:31,333
Speaker 2: mean the amount of uncertainty that a farmer has oh yeah,

1181
00:54:31,453 --> 00:54:34,013
Speaker 2: with your business being outside in all in the weather,

1182
00:54:35,453 --> 00:54:39,133
Speaker 2: that the tacks that takes a hearty, hardy bunch.

1183
00:54:39,293 --> 00:54:40,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know I'm speaking like a down here,

1184
00:54:41,053 --> 00:54:44,773
Speaker 3: but watching Clarkson's farm Man what and that was a

1185
00:54:44,893 --> 00:54:47,293
Speaker 3: multi millionaire giving farming a crack, but just.

1186
00:54:47,373 --> 00:54:49,373
Speaker 4: Giving an insight into what they go through outside of

1187
00:54:49,413 --> 00:54:49,893
Speaker 4: their control.

1188
00:54:50,413 --> 00:54:53,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, this text says self employed cases. Self employment sucks

1189
00:54:53,973 --> 00:54:56,013
Speaker 2: because IDA make it so hard for you to claim

1190
00:54:56,053 --> 00:54:58,853
Speaker 2: anything back. On top of that, the tax is ridiculous.

1191
00:54:58,973 --> 00:55:02,613
Speaker 2: It's just stupid. This text that says why try and

1192
00:55:02,653 --> 00:55:04,893
Speaker 2: succeed in this country? Labor and the Greens just hate

1193
00:55:04,933 --> 00:55:07,212
Speaker 2: you for it. If you start a business, work hard,

1194
00:55:07,293 --> 00:55:10,213
Speaker 2: build it up, employ you, employ people, and then get comfortable,

1195
00:55:10,453 --> 00:55:12,493
Speaker 2: you get told by the Greens that you are the problem.

1196
00:55:13,053 --> 00:55:14,973
Speaker 2: If you are standing in front of a shop drunk,

1197
00:55:15,053 --> 00:55:16,853
Speaker 2: yelling at people all day, then you're a hero in

1198
00:55:16,893 --> 00:55:19,453
Speaker 2: this country. If you take a risk and work hard,

1199
00:55:19,653 --> 00:55:22,373
Speaker 2: make some money, you are the problems demoralizing. Well, if

1200
00:55:22,413 --> 00:55:24,093
Speaker 2: you don't agree with those people, don't listen to them.

1201
00:55:24,653 --> 00:55:26,573
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, the Greens will be all over

1202
00:55:26,613 --> 00:55:29,493
Speaker 2: TikTok telling you that you're a bad person for succeeding.

1203
00:55:29,653 --> 00:55:30,652
Speaker 4: Then shut them out.

1204
00:55:30,773 --> 00:55:32,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, shut them out and keep going. We need you,

1205
00:55:33,173 --> 00:55:35,413
Speaker 3: I mean business owners listening. We need you guys.

1206
00:55:35,493 --> 00:55:36,373
Speaker 2: Play the ball in front of you.

1207
00:55:36,533 --> 00:55:36,732
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1208
00:55:37,253 --> 00:55:39,533
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if you think, if you think like.

1209
00:55:39,613 --> 00:55:42,813
Speaker 2: That, and look, there's no doubt that there is headwinds

1210
00:55:42,893 --> 00:55:45,172
Speaker 2: and there's there's policies that make it difficult for people

1211
00:55:45,213 --> 00:55:48,653
Speaker 2: to succeed, There's no doubt about it. But if you

1212
00:55:48,773 --> 00:55:50,133
Speaker 2: just got to play the ball in front of you, right,

1213
00:55:50,253 --> 00:55:53,573
Speaker 2: you got the environment you're in and not spend too

1214
00:55:53,653 --> 00:55:56,413
Speaker 2: much time on social media being told you're a loser

1215
00:55:56,493 --> 00:55:57,013
Speaker 2: for succeeding.

1216
00:55:57,133 --> 00:56:00,613
Speaker 3: Wasted mental energy. Yeah, Joe, how are you this afternoon?

1217
00:56:01,813 --> 00:56:01,893
Speaker 8: Hi?

1218
00:56:02,093 --> 00:56:02,573
Speaker 6: Good? Thank you?

1219
00:56:02,773 --> 00:56:05,453
Speaker 4: So you're self employed, that's right, yes?

1220
00:56:05,813 --> 00:56:06,293
Speaker 8: And what do you do?

1221
00:56:07,413 --> 00:56:08,133
Speaker 4: Carpet and vinyl?

1222
00:56:08,933 --> 00:56:09,453
Speaker 23: And for you?

1223
00:56:10,013 --> 00:56:12,533
Speaker 3: Has it been smooth sailing? Have you faced a little

1224
00:56:12,533 --> 00:56:13,933
Speaker 3: bit of financial insecurity?

1225
00:56:15,973 --> 00:56:19,013
Speaker 15: Yees, slightly. But I've been in it for forty years

1226
00:56:19,053 --> 00:56:22,933
Speaker 15: and I've contracted for the last seventeen years now, so

1227
00:56:22,973 --> 00:56:26,413
Speaker 15: I've built up a pretty good clientele. And because I

1228
00:56:26,533 --> 00:56:29,253
Speaker 15: specialize in repairs and just things other people won't do,

1229
00:56:29,893 --> 00:56:32,013
Speaker 15: I'm generally I've got work most of the time.

1230
00:56:32,893 --> 00:56:35,333
Speaker 2: Was it scary at the start when you first went

1231
00:56:35,373 --> 00:56:37,213
Speaker 2: into business on your own, because you say, you've got

1232
00:56:37,213 --> 00:56:39,013
Speaker 2: a lot of clients now, but when you start, you've

1233
00:56:39,013 --> 00:56:39,973
Speaker 2: got no clients, don't you.

1234
00:56:40,613 --> 00:56:40,733
Speaker 8: Oh?

1235
00:56:41,133 --> 00:56:43,653
Speaker 15: Absolutely? And I jumped ship from a floriging company I

1236
00:56:43,773 --> 00:56:46,293
Speaker 15: was working for, but because they knew that I had

1237
00:56:46,293 --> 00:56:48,772
Speaker 15: a certain degree of knowledge on floring, they actually took

1238
00:56:48,813 --> 00:56:50,933
Speaker 15: me on and I stayed there for twelve years just

1239
00:56:51,053 --> 00:56:55,973
Speaker 15: contracting to them. Oh right, okay, yeah, but generally now

1240
00:56:56,053 --> 00:56:58,093
Speaker 15: I get stuff from people call me all the time.

1241
00:56:58,133 --> 00:56:59,973
Speaker 15: I just get referrals from a lot of people. So

1242
00:57:00,013 --> 00:57:00,652
Speaker 15: I'm very lucky.

1243
00:57:01,693 --> 00:57:05,013
Speaker 2: And what about the you know, the tax side of

1244
00:57:05,093 --> 00:57:08,013
Speaker 2: it and running your life as a self employed person?

1245
00:57:08,133 --> 00:57:09,053
Speaker 2: As that a stress for you?

1246
00:57:10,773 --> 00:57:12,413
Speaker 15: I mean, it's it's stuff I've actually got to sit

1247
00:57:12,493 --> 00:57:14,013
Speaker 15: down and do. So I've been a fan to do

1248
00:57:14,253 --> 00:57:16,613
Speaker 15: X amount of days working X amount of time in

1249
00:57:16,653 --> 00:57:18,413
Speaker 15: the office, which I do struggle to get to.

1250
00:57:18,773 --> 00:57:18,973
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1251
00:57:19,413 --> 00:57:21,133
Speaker 15: And then of course, and there Revendy Lo likes to

1252
00:57:21,173 --> 00:57:23,173
Speaker 15: do a projection of what you've earned, and then you

1253
00:57:23,293 --> 00:57:24,773
Speaker 15: might not hit the same thing, and then you've got

1254
00:57:24,853 --> 00:57:27,933
Speaker 15: to adjust things and let them contact them and say,

1255
00:57:27,973 --> 00:57:31,733
Speaker 15: well of peasants for the years you're projected. So, yeah,

1256
00:57:31,733 --> 00:57:33,013
Speaker 15: you've got to keep an eye on things like that

1257
00:57:33,573 --> 00:57:35,613
Speaker 15: GST or that. It is it always in the back

1258
00:57:35,613 --> 00:57:36,093
Speaker 15: of your minds.

1259
00:57:36,293 --> 00:57:40,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, Progressive tax is one of the strange, strangest things,

1260
00:57:40,093 --> 00:57:43,573
Speaker 2: isn't it. That is paying in advance from what you

1261
00:57:43,653 --> 00:57:44,773
Speaker 2: earned the year before.

1262
00:57:45,133 --> 00:57:46,613
Speaker 4: I mean, head around there.

1263
00:57:46,653 --> 00:57:49,053
Speaker 2: It's got to be a system than that. I mean,

1264
00:57:49,093 --> 00:57:50,733
Speaker 2: even though you get a backup, you don't get there,

1265
00:57:50,773 --> 00:57:53,333
Speaker 2: but you've still got you that money is out of

1266
00:57:53,373 --> 00:57:55,653
Speaker 2: your system for that for that year. And so you

1267
00:57:55,733 --> 00:57:57,973
Speaker 2: have a bad year, and then on that bad year,

1268
00:57:58,093 --> 00:58:01,573
Speaker 2: you've you've paid more tax than you know. It's not

1269
00:58:01,693 --> 00:58:03,013
Speaker 2: in your operating budget that year.

1270
00:58:03,573 --> 00:58:06,293
Speaker 15: No, No, And you know in a long way in

1271
00:58:06,373 --> 00:58:09,493
Speaker 15: amongst that, I try and employ people who are basically

1272
00:58:10,413 --> 00:58:12,973
Speaker 15: don't really have a well that people aren't giving them

1273
00:58:13,013 --> 00:58:14,853
Speaker 15: a chance. So I'll take on a few different people

1274
00:58:14,893 --> 00:58:17,733
Speaker 15: as long as they're honest enough and I see a

1275
00:58:17,773 --> 00:58:20,013
Speaker 15: degree of skill, and I'll take on people and help

1276
00:58:20,053 --> 00:58:21,053
Speaker 15: me out best I can as well.

1277
00:58:22,133 --> 00:58:22,293
Speaker 1: Do you?

1278
00:58:22,533 --> 00:58:26,933
Speaker 2: Is there a satisfaction in running your own operation and

1279
00:58:27,293 --> 00:58:31,093
Speaker 2: a feeling of autonomy. Is there a sense of pride

1280
00:58:31,133 --> 00:58:31,893
Speaker 2: in it for you?

1281
00:58:32,053 --> 00:58:32,213
Speaker 8: Joe?

1282
00:58:33,293 --> 00:58:33,773
Speaker 7: Yeah, there is.

1283
00:58:33,933 --> 00:58:37,493
Speaker 15: I mean, I've heard from other installers who have they've

1284
00:58:37,533 --> 00:58:39,813
Speaker 15: struggled to get some work, and I've got someone and

1285
00:58:40,053 --> 00:58:41,533
Speaker 15: they've come back to me going, well, you've got a

1286
00:58:41,573 --> 00:58:43,373
Speaker 15: really good name across the whole of town pretty much.

1287
00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:47,413
Speaker 15: So I think not burning bridges is a good thing, right,

1288
00:58:48,493 --> 00:58:52,453
Speaker 15: Always keep you know, your options open. Yeah, and sometimes

1289
00:58:52,533 --> 00:58:54,173
Speaker 15: like a sales tap on work I wouldn't normally do,

1290
00:58:54,333 --> 00:58:56,533
Speaker 15: but it's just sort of trying to keep the machine going.

1291
00:58:56,613 --> 00:58:58,813
Speaker 2: Really Yeah, Well, good on you, Joe, and best of

1292
00:58:58,893 --> 00:59:01,053
Speaker 2: luck out there. It sounds like, Gabe, you're good at

1293
00:59:01,053 --> 00:59:02,893
Speaker 2: what you do and that's why you're succeeding.

1294
00:59:03,053 --> 00:59:05,013
Speaker 3: So good on your mate, worked hard at at Thank

1295
00:59:05,013 --> 00:59:05,813
Speaker 3: you very much, Joe.

1296
00:59:05,933 --> 00:59:06,573
Speaker 2: Are you like Joe?

1297
00:59:06,613 --> 00:59:06,733
Speaker 12: Oh?

1298
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Speaker 3: E one hundred and eighty ten eighty one was a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a punt to go self employed? And

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Speaker 3: how did it work out? Shear your story? Oh, one

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number?

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Speaker 2: Simons's self employment has more pluses than minuses For me,

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Speaker 2: I built the business garden in lawn Caer part time

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Speaker 2: while I did other shift work five and now five

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Speaker 2: years and now and I'll never go back.

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Speaker 3: Good on you, Simon how good keep those teachers coming

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Speaker 3: through headlines with Wendy.

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Speaker 16: The Supreme Court has quashed the double murder convictions of

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Speaker 16: David Tomaheitti, who was found guilty of killing two Swedish

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Speaker 16: tourists in the eighties and imprisoned for almost twenty years.

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Speaker 16: The Public Service Minister says a dedicated public sector fuel

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Speaker 16: response plan will come in due course if needed. The

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Speaker 16: country is sitting in phase one, but at phase two

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Speaker 16: the government will encourage the public to self reduce fuel use.

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Speaker 16: The firefighters, the union claims wages are being unlawfully deducted

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Speaker 16: for future strikes, with pay slips for the pa Bread

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Speaker 16: ending April first, including deductions for action not yet held.

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Speaker 16: Police and Hastings are asking for information after a man

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Speaker 16: was hit by a car on Heretonga Streets West last night,

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Speaker 16: just half an hour after being allegedly stabbed in an

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Speaker 16: unrelated incident. Fonterra has officially completed the sale of its

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Speaker 16: consumer on a mainland group to a French dairy giant. Today,

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Speaker 16: an Auckland Council meeting on the future of Western Springs

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Speaker 16: Stadium has been getting rowdy of people asked to stop interjecting.

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Speaker 16: Plus why Auckland is underperforming despite its scale. Read Cameron

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Speaker 16: Baggery's perspective at New Zealand Herald Premium. Now back to

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Speaker 16: Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy. So we are talking about

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Speaker 3: being self employed. This is after an article that shows

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Speaker 3: a significant a significant excuse me, number of self employed

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Speaker 3: people in New Zealand are effectively earning less than the

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Speaker 3: minimum wage. That is according to Inland revenue data. So

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Speaker 3: experts say, while self employment offers flexibility and independence, that

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Speaker 3: often comes with financial instability, irregular work and hidden costs

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Speaker 3: that reduce actual earnings. So how has it been for

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Speaker 3: you if you are self employed? O eight one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call if

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Speaker 3: you want to send the sex nineteen nine two is

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Speaker 3: that number.

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Speaker 4: But Rebecca, how are you this afternoon? Hie?

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Speaker 3: How's it's going very well? So tell us about being

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Speaker 3: self employed.

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Speaker 24: I've been doing it now for fifteen years and i

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Speaker 24: haven't looked back. I basically have the freedom. I've got

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Speaker 24: three children, so it works through really well. With my lifestyle,

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Speaker 24: and you know, I just feel like if you are

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Speaker 24: actually employed, you're not in control of your own destiny,

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Speaker 24: because there's obviously a lot of people that get redundant

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Speaker 24: or get laid off and then they completely screws. And

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Speaker 24: I think when you are self employed, you're an idea

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Speaker 24: of where your business is going and how you're tracking,

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Speaker 24: and you can look at ways of pivoting or doing

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Speaker 24: different things to make it work for you and your family.

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Speaker 2: And what do you do for a job, Rebecca, what's

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Speaker 2: your business?

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Speaker 24: So I work in public relations. I've got my own

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Speaker 24: public relations business, and I also teach private teach speech

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Speaker 24: and drama to secondary school students. So I've actually managed

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Speaker 24: to have a really good sort of lifestyle there and

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Speaker 24: actually have employed young people to help work for me

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Speaker 24: as well and given them opportunities and so contract them

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Speaker 24: out to do things. And a lot of the work

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Speaker 24: that I get is referral, so it's basically word of mouth,

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Speaker 24: and you get a reputation, you need to you know,

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Speaker 24: do well to then get basically that reperal obviously, and

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Speaker 24: that is that kind of endorsement as well. So I

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Speaker 24: just feel that it's something that I've worked in big

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Speaker 24: companies and all around the world agencies, and I just

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Speaker 24: feel that, you know, you're sort of restricted in terms

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Speaker 24: of when you have to get to work and when

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Speaker 24: you have to leave, and then when you have your

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Speaker 24: lunch break, and there's obviously politics and all those things

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Speaker 24: that you get when you work in a workplace. And

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Speaker 24: I think that, you know, I just want to get

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Speaker 24: on with my work and get my job and work

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Speaker 24: with good people and good clients. And it's worked out

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Speaker 24: really well for me. It's not it's easy to start

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Speaker 24: off with, but I think that when you have someone

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Speaker 24: in your relationship that potentially has a full time sort

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Speaker 24: of trid to start off with, that does help. My

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Speaker 24: husband hasn't got any groups full time, so if anything

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Speaker 24: kind of went peer shape for me, it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 24: it's not working out, but it has worked out and

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Speaker 24: worked out really well. So I think you need to

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Speaker 24: give things a go. I don't think you regret the

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Speaker 24: things you Docto and so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you sound very energetic Repeka, and it sounds like

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Speaker 3: it's working out very well for you.

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Speaker 2: Well it has.

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Speaker 24: I think that right now, I've just gone and put

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Speaker 24: my mouthcard for my daughter in the middle of my webday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a huge thing.

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Speaker 16: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That was a huge thing. I remember, Rebecca, when I

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Speaker 2: used to work behind counters at record stores and stuff.

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Speaker 2: That was my big dream that you could just go

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Speaker 2: and do something when you wanted to go and do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can make up the work at a

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Speaker 2: different time, but if you have to be somewhere until

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Speaker 2: you have to ask for your half hour lunch break,

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Speaker 2: that's that's pretty punishing.

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Speaker 24: I think you and you get micromanaged, and I think

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Speaker 24: that actually performed better when you have that control, and

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Speaker 24: you are more efficient, and I think that you know,

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Speaker 24: I'm not saying I'm not judging, but parents in particular, like, oh,

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Speaker 24: like mothers, like we've only got so much time in

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Speaker 24: her day. We can't we have to sort of lock in.

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Speaker 24: They can't be certain work or I'm not saying everyone

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Speaker 24: does that. I'm saying that, but you actually, if only

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Speaker 24: you're restricted your time, you've got to use it really well.

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Speaker 24: And you know, busy people always do tend to manage

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Speaker 24: and do quite well. I think from experience you, but.

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Speaker 2: You sound like some people don't have you clearly, just

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Speaker 2: by talking to you briefly clearly have a lot of

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Speaker 2: energy and a positive out outlook. So do you think

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Speaker 2: you need to be someone like you? It's not probably

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Speaker 2: not a great area for eors to get into, Rebecca.

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Speaker 24: You need to, I think you need to love what

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Speaker 24: you're doing. You can how if somebody is passionate about

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01:04:57,333 --> 01:04:59,133
Speaker 24: what they do and you can just see it and

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Speaker 24: if it's genuine, and I think that that really comes

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Speaker 24: across it. And also if you're desperate, you you come

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01:05:03,813 --> 01:05:06,613
Speaker 24: across desperate for work, you're not really going to give it.

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Speaker 24: You just need to be kind of I think interesting

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Speaker 24: than people and interested like you guys. I mean that's

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Speaker 24: what you do for a job. You interview people and

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Speaker 24: you are interested in what they've got to say. And

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Speaker 24: that's definitely a skill. But I think you need to Yeah,

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Speaker 24: but do what you have a positive attitude, that can

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Speaker 24: do attitude, do your best, give one hundred percent, and

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Speaker 24: then that that reputation that you gain if you do

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Speaker 24: a good job, and you will get asked back, You

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Speaker 24: will get asked and we will get around. I mean

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Speaker 24: you seillant as a small place and you know, obviously

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Speaker 24: replication is everything and people do find out you can't

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Speaker 24: just sort of hide hide away, and so yeah, I

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Speaker 24: do think attitude is absolutely key.

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 24: It's not about with me when you're a plus plus,

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01:05:48,733 --> 01:05:50,733
Speaker 24: it's actually are you committed?

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Speaker 18: Do you tune up?

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Speaker 24: Are you reliable?

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Speaker 18: And do you have that positive out look in life

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Speaker 18: and willing to good things to go?

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Rebecca, you're an inspirational person.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely want to go get her?

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Speaker 2: You got me fired?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Hey, lad's that guy crying about the evil green? Says

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Speaker 2: this text. I'm self employed, hard lefty pulling two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand a year, working a gig three point

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Speaker 2: five days a week that any able bodied person could do.

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Speaker 2: You can be a capitalist and a GC. Good on you,

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01:06:18,973 --> 01:06:22,773
Speaker 2: Jamie wink emoji. Here's Jamie. I wonder what their job is.

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Speaker 3: Tell us more any that any able bodied person could

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Speaker 3: do for three point five days a week. Yeah, okay, Jamie,

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Speaker 3: tell us more police turn.

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Speaker 2: Fifty thousand a year.

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Speaker 4: That's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Hey, mat, It's called provisional tax from Johnny? What did

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Speaker 2: I call? I call it progressive or something? Did I did? I?

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Speaker 2: Did I have a slip of the tongue? Yat progressively.

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Speaker 2: Provisional tax is the one I know because I paid

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Speaker 2: across my, my, my, several companies.

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Speaker 4: You're on the thick of it, Yeah, exactly, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: Provisional tax. It's when you first get into you know,

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Speaker 2: being self employed or running companies, then the provisional tax

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Speaker 2: is quite a surprise and you go, oh, I have

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Speaker 2: to pay all this in advance. Yeah, I can't get

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Speaker 2: based on what I made and that really good year

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Speaker 2: last year, as I can't to this terrible year this year.

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Speaker 3: All right, take you your calls, Oh, e one hundred

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01:07:09,293 --> 01:07:11,573
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. If you are self employed, how

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01:07:11,613 --> 01:07:13,293
Speaker 3: has it been? Did you face a little bit of

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Speaker 3: financial insecurity and how did you push through its? Share

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Speaker 3: your story. It is nineteen to three.

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Speaker 1: Your home of Afternoon Talk Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons with Skoda. Can you crack the scoder code? News

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Speaker 1: Talk sai'd be.

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Speaker 3: It is sixteen to three. We're talking about being self employed.

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01:07:31,773 --> 01:07:34,453
Speaker 3: An article well numbers actually according to the ird that

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01:07:34,613 --> 01:07:38,693
Speaker 3: many self employed people make less than minimum wage. So

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Speaker 3: the question we've got for you is is that freedom

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Speaker 3: worth the potential financial instability?

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Speaker 2: Self employment is for schmuck says this text work for

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Speaker 2: the government, no supervision, work from home, great pay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll bet on your text.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be triggering, so that will be very triggering.

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Speaker 2: I am self employed, says the text of the last

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Speaker 2: two years has been the hardest of my life. In

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Speaker 2: civil engineer fourteen staff and we work all over the place.

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01:08:01,893 --> 01:08:06,293
Speaker 2: Money is very tight. Sometimes you think about giving up,

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01:08:06,453 --> 01:08:08,733
Speaker 2: but I've worked way too hard to do that't sleep

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01:08:08,733 --> 01:08:14,173
Speaker 2: at night sometimes, but when it's good, Oh yeah, but

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Speaker 2: when it's good, it's good. Thanks David. Yeah, it did

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Speaker 2: say buck when it's yeah. I was like a buck

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01:08:21,053 --> 01:08:23,612
Speaker 2: when it's good. Buck when it's do sound good. But

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Speaker 2: but when it's good, it's good. Thanks David.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, you keep up the good fight, Dave. Yeah, great tick.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your ticks. Jason, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 10: Good afternoon, gentlemen.

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Speaker 15: How are you doing today?

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Speaker 4: Very well? Better for talking with you.

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Speaker 10: Well, Jess, I guess I'm the newest schmuck in Queenstown

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Speaker 10: for going full time self employed. This is my second

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Speaker 10: week of full time self employment.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, great, okay, and how's it going so fun?

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01:08:48,333 --> 01:08:52,253
Speaker 10: Well, it's going well. You know, I realized that working

1512
01:08:52,333 --> 01:08:54,452
Speaker 10: for other people. For so many years I was doing

1513
01:08:54,532 --> 01:08:57,333
Speaker 10: my my side hustles to be able to afford for

1514
01:08:57,452 --> 01:08:59,572
Speaker 10: work to work for other people, and I'm like, well,

1515
01:08:59,692 --> 01:09:01,812
Speaker 10: why don't they make my side hustles my main hustle

1516
01:09:01,973 --> 01:09:06,293
Speaker 10: and stepped out into the industry that I've been doing

1517
01:09:06,333 --> 01:09:08,173
Speaker 10: for a while that I know really well. So it

1518
01:09:08,532 --> 01:09:10,492
Speaker 10: was it was a challenge because I stepped away from

1519
01:09:10,532 --> 01:09:12,612
Speaker 10: a job that I thought I was going to spend

1520
01:09:12,652 --> 01:09:13,732
Speaker 10: the rest of my working years in.

1521
01:09:14,093 --> 01:09:16,852
Speaker 2: Right, So and what do you mind us? Do you

1522
01:09:16,933 --> 01:09:19,772
Speaker 2: mind telling us what industry you are in the side

1523
01:09:19,812 --> 01:09:20,532
Speaker 2: hustle and such?

1524
01:09:21,532 --> 01:09:24,173
Speaker 10: Yeah, so it's it's quite varied. So I'm a wedding

1525
01:09:24,293 --> 01:09:28,492
Speaker 10: celebrant and I also look after people's events and then

1526
01:09:28,612 --> 01:09:33,093
Speaker 10: also a personal concierge and host to travelers Queenstown. Wow,

1527
01:09:33,133 --> 01:09:36,452
Speaker 10: So it's it's quite varied and there is quite a

1528
01:09:36,492 --> 01:09:39,213
Speaker 10: bit of work to be had in our tourist destination here.

1529
01:09:39,572 --> 01:09:42,973
Speaker 2: So people come to Queenstown and you just facilitate. Do

1530
01:09:43,013 --> 01:09:45,213
Speaker 2: you take them around town, show them staff, show them

1531
01:09:45,333 --> 01:09:46,213
Speaker 2: the sites whatever?

1532
01:09:46,652 --> 01:09:49,452
Speaker 10: Is that what the con So normally they'll come to

1533
01:09:49,532 --> 01:09:51,972
Speaker 10: me through their travel agents or their travel agent would

1534
01:09:51,973 --> 01:09:54,412
Speaker 10: have booked everything for them, and then it's really helpful

1535
01:09:54,452 --> 01:09:57,173
Speaker 10: them to have somebody, somebody here on the ground who

1536
01:09:57,973 --> 01:10:01,053
Speaker 10: knows the area, can get them into restaurants, can you know,

1537
01:10:01,213 --> 01:10:04,053
Speaker 10: book there, Yeah, and just be there for and then

1538
01:10:04,133 --> 01:10:07,452
Speaker 10: the wedding celebrant. I fell into that because I spent

1539
01:10:07,532 --> 01:10:12,012
Speaker 10: ten or fifteen years as a caterer and for corporate

1540
01:10:12,093 --> 01:10:14,652
Speaker 10: and weddings. So I went from the wedding caterer to

1541
01:10:14,893 --> 01:10:15,772
Speaker 10: the wedding celebrants.

1542
01:10:16,293 --> 01:10:18,532
Speaker 19: So that that was a yeah, did do you?

1543
01:10:18,893 --> 01:10:20,452
Speaker 2: Did you get all your did you? Because I mean

1544
01:10:20,772 --> 01:10:22,772
Speaker 2: a big part of being self employed is the tech

1545
01:10:22,973 --> 01:10:25,412
Speaker 2: side of it, and the and the bill paying, the

1546
01:10:25,492 --> 01:10:27,732
Speaker 2: financial side of it across the board. Did you do

1547
01:10:27,772 --> 01:10:29,412
Speaker 2: you spend a bit of time getting your hit around that.

1548
01:10:30,452 --> 01:10:30,652
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1549
01:10:30,692 --> 01:10:33,652
Speaker 10: I'm a big fan of mister Drewy software that you know,

1550
01:10:33,812 --> 01:10:36,492
Speaker 10: it makes my life really really easy. I'm a big

1551
01:10:36,572 --> 01:10:39,572
Speaker 10: fan of zero it does everything for you. I remember

1552
01:10:39,612 --> 01:10:41,732
Speaker 10: the first year I got my provisional tax bill was

1553
01:10:41,772 --> 01:10:44,293
Speaker 10: a bit scary, but you just you just plan for it. Yeah,

1554
01:10:44,452 --> 01:10:47,612
Speaker 10: And you know, you found, like somebody saying a schmuck

1555
01:10:47,732 --> 01:10:50,652
Speaker 10: working for yourself, you know, I find if you're working

1556
01:10:50,732 --> 01:10:54,372
Speaker 10: for someone else, you are only a valuable commodity until

1557
01:10:54,412 --> 01:10:57,652
Speaker 10: you become a disposable commodity. And you know, and with

1558
01:10:58,013 --> 01:11:00,933
Speaker 10: this environment, you know, things can change like that, you know,

1559
01:11:01,173 --> 01:11:04,532
Speaker 10: which I learned myself very recently. But luckily, you know,

1560
01:11:04,612 --> 01:11:08,173
Speaker 10: I've entrenched myself in the services community that we're hearing

1561
01:11:08,372 --> 01:11:12,092
Speaker 10: wins down and can and can carry on. Good on you, Jason,

1562
01:11:12,933 --> 01:11:14,933
Speaker 10: greatmend that step out into faith and just do it

1563
01:11:15,213 --> 01:11:20,213
Speaker 10: and do it. If not now when yeah, yeah, that is.

1564
01:11:20,372 --> 01:11:22,812
Speaker 2: You make such a good point because you're working for

1565
01:11:22,853 --> 01:11:24,932
Speaker 2: a company and you're all team and you're all the family,

1566
01:11:25,173 --> 01:11:27,652
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you're not yeah, and

1567
01:11:27,772 --> 01:11:30,612
Speaker 2: you're you're talking to HR and they're and they're getting

1568
01:11:31,173 --> 01:11:34,213
Speaker 2: three people to apply for one job and you know,

1569
01:11:34,452 --> 01:11:35,532
Speaker 2: there's a restructure on.

1570
01:11:37,253 --> 01:11:38,293
Speaker 4: So far we were a family.

1571
01:11:38,652 --> 01:11:41,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought we were a team. Well, good, good,

1572
01:11:42,093 --> 01:11:42,892
Speaker 2: good on you. Jason.

1573
01:11:43,412 --> 01:11:45,612
Speaker 10: Hey, thanks Selma. I always enjoyed listening to you in

1574
01:11:45,652 --> 01:11:47,333
Speaker 10: the afternoon. So keep doing what you're doing.

1575
01:11:47,333 --> 01:11:48,093
Speaker 6: You go do great work.

1576
01:11:48,093 --> 01:11:48,333
Speaker 23: Thank you.

1577
01:11:49,532 --> 01:11:53,013
Speaker 3: Dr Yeah, yeah, there was some positivity there. Just go

1578
01:11:53,133 --> 01:11:54,452
Speaker 3: out and do it and if it now it's not

1579
01:11:55,013 --> 01:11:56,852
Speaker 3: not the right time, win is. It's a lot of

1580
01:11:56,893 --> 01:11:58,772
Speaker 3: truth to that are you like Jason, You've given it

1581
01:11:58,853 --> 01:12:00,532
Speaker 3: a crack and how are you going? Eight hundred and

1582
01:12:00,572 --> 01:12:04,053
Speaker 3: eighty teen eighty nineteen ninety two is the text as well.

1583
01:12:04,853 --> 01:12:06,932
Speaker 2: My parents said a dairy, and Hastings says the text

1584
01:12:07,013 --> 01:12:09,173
Speaker 2: that they did quite well until the council decided to

1585
01:12:09,213 --> 01:12:12,452
Speaker 2: dig up the road and block off the road that

1586
01:12:12,532 --> 01:12:15,293
Speaker 2: actually effectively removes seventy percent of the customer base. Mum

1587
01:12:15,372 --> 01:12:17,812
Speaker 2: contacted the council about this. She was basically fobbed off

1588
01:12:17,853 --> 01:12:21,133
Speaker 2: and ignored. The businesses couldn't survive under these conditions and

1589
01:12:21,173 --> 01:12:23,173
Speaker 2: had to close, removing a shop that had been there

1590
01:12:23,213 --> 01:12:27,532
Speaker 2: for decades. No one truly has autonomic autonomy. That is

1591
01:12:27,692 --> 01:12:30,213
Speaker 2: that is true. Actually they can just change. You can

1592
01:12:30,293 --> 01:12:34,333
Speaker 2: have your autonomy and then it just goes yep, because

1593
01:12:35,093 --> 01:12:38,253
Speaker 2: there's quite a you know, having a shop, people come

1594
01:12:38,333 --> 01:12:43,372
Speaker 2: in by staff, you ordered in, you're directly you're directly

1595
01:12:43,412 --> 01:12:45,532
Speaker 2: related to the money that you earn, and it feels

1596
01:12:45,612 --> 01:12:48,492
Speaker 2: quite awesome. Yeah, But then then you can really work

1597
01:12:48,572 --> 01:12:50,372
Speaker 2: really hard. You can have the most amazing dairy in

1598
01:12:50,412 --> 01:12:52,333
Speaker 2: the world. You can have this clientele, and then then

1599
01:12:52,692 --> 01:12:55,572
Speaker 2: a council that doesn't care about anyone or anything and

1600
01:12:55,732 --> 01:12:59,612
Speaker 2: just has some big ideological picture. Somebody it makes a

1601
01:12:59,652 --> 01:13:01,772
Speaker 2: decision and then your business goes out. I mean that's

1602
01:13:01,933 --> 01:13:03,412
Speaker 2: that's why it's no certainty.

1603
01:13:03,173 --> 01:13:05,892
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, shame on those people. It's not certainty anywhere.

1604
01:13:06,173 --> 01:13:08,213
Speaker 3: I guess that is true. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1605
01:13:08,333 --> 01:13:10,293
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call if you are

1606
01:13:10,412 --> 01:13:11,092
Speaker 3: self employed?

1607
01:13:11,133 --> 01:13:12,372
Speaker 4: How is it going for you?

1608
01:13:12,812 --> 01:13:14,812
Speaker 3: And if you push through the hard years or maybe

1609
01:13:14,853 --> 01:13:17,012
Speaker 3: you're going through the hard years. Now, shear your story.

1610
01:13:17,053 --> 01:13:18,692
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty s at number

1611
01:13:18,732 --> 01:13:19,852
Speaker 3: nine two nine two is the text.

1612
01:13:19,933 --> 01:13:22,773
Speaker 4: It is ten to three the issues.

1613
01:13:22,452 --> 01:13:24,892
Speaker 1: That affect you and a bit of fun along the way.

1614
01:13:25,173 --> 01:13:28,492
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talk ZB.

1615
01:13:30,372 --> 01:13:33,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just talks theb It is eight to three.

1616
01:13:33,293 --> 01:13:35,532
Speaker 3: Plenty of texts coming through about being self employed.

1617
01:13:35,612 --> 01:13:37,492
Speaker 2: This Texas is I'm thinking about becoming a hit man.

1618
01:13:37,572 --> 01:13:39,772
Speaker 2: I hear the money is quite good. I think you

1619
01:13:39,853 --> 01:13:41,213
Speaker 2: can if you've got at it. I mean it's risk,

1620
01:13:41,772 --> 01:13:45,893
Speaker 2: high risk, high reward, you know. And I mean to

1621
01:13:45,973 --> 01:13:49,932
Speaker 2: hit me in play provisional text not hope, So yeah,

1622
01:13:49,933 --> 01:13:50,412
Speaker 2: I hope they.

1623
01:13:50,372 --> 01:13:52,772
Speaker 3: Are the IID comes after everybody even hit me in

1624
01:13:53,013 --> 01:13:53,452
Speaker 3: you'd hope.

1625
01:13:53,812 --> 01:13:57,612
Speaker 2: I think I think you said progressional text. I have

1626
01:13:57,652 --> 01:14:00,333
Speaker 2: a business called kit Set Assembly Services. Great lifestyle and

1627
01:14:00,692 --> 01:14:03,412
Speaker 2: good to be able to run from your own schedule,

1628
01:14:03,492 --> 01:14:06,172
Speaker 2: saving marriages one flat pack at a time. Cheers, Johnny,

1629
01:14:06,213 --> 01:14:08,852
Speaker 2: got on your Johnny. There's a lot to be said

1630
01:14:08,893 --> 01:14:11,692
Speaker 2: for that. The flat pack. You know, are you moving

1631
01:14:11,732 --> 01:14:13,333
Speaker 2: into a house and you feel like a bit of

1632
01:14:13,372 --> 01:14:15,772
Speaker 2: a coward for not doing your flat packs. But a

1633
01:14:15,812 --> 01:14:19,013
Speaker 2: friend of mine all the flat packs arrived and he

1634
01:14:19,173 --> 01:14:20,732
Speaker 2: was like, oh the sucks, and he got someone in

1635
01:14:20,772 --> 01:14:23,053
Speaker 2: they put them all together. And the people that put

1636
01:14:23,093 --> 01:14:25,452
Speaker 2: together flat pack. It's not flat pack. It's gonna work.

1637
01:14:25,452 --> 01:14:27,213
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be one of wobbly old flat pack

1638
01:14:27,372 --> 01:14:30,572
Speaker 2: situation where you cupboed door doesn't quite match up.

1639
01:14:31,213 --> 01:14:34,173
Speaker 3: How much would you pay? I'd pay max fifty bucks

1640
01:14:34,213 --> 01:14:35,172
Speaker 3: per piece of furniture?

1641
01:14:35,253 --> 01:14:37,532
Speaker 2: Okay, Johnny, can you text us back and tell us

1642
01:14:37,572 --> 01:14:43,492
Speaker 2: how much said assembly Services charge to put a flat

1643
01:14:43,572 --> 01:14:44,012
Speaker 2: pack together?

1644
01:14:44,173 --> 01:14:46,892
Speaker 3: Sounds like a good business though. Good on your Johnny Scott.

1645
01:14:46,933 --> 01:14:47,532
Speaker 3: How are you mate?

1646
01:14:48,213 --> 01:14:48,972
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm good good.

1647
01:14:49,053 --> 01:14:49,852
Speaker 1: How are you good?

1648
01:14:49,973 --> 01:14:53,412
Speaker 3: You started self employment when COVID killed tourism?

1649
01:14:53,452 --> 01:14:56,732
Speaker 12: Tell us more, Yes, I was managing sort of a

1650
01:14:56,853 --> 01:14:59,732
Speaker 12: high end adventure company for a number of years pre

1651
01:14:59,893 --> 01:15:05,812
Speaker 12: COVID and COVID just killed tourism, so you had to pivot.

1652
01:15:05,893 --> 01:15:10,173
Speaker 12: Really was forced into he wouldn't put out the door

1653
01:15:10,333 --> 01:15:15,852
Speaker 12: pre COVID lockdown, you know. I was sort of forced

1654
01:15:16,093 --> 01:15:18,692
Speaker 12: to do something different, So I did started my own business,

1655
01:15:19,732 --> 01:15:23,812
Speaker 12: and I contract as an outdoor medic. I teach pree

1656
01:15:23,893 --> 01:15:27,812
Speaker 12: hospital emergency care, and I teach vertical rescue. I still

1657
01:15:27,853 --> 01:15:31,772
Speaker 12: do a bit of adventure guiding. But yeah, God locked

1658
01:15:31,812 --> 01:15:34,412
Speaker 12: really and it's it's good on you, Scott.

1659
01:15:34,652 --> 01:15:37,013
Speaker 2: What do you mean by an outdoor medics so, like,

1660
01:15:37,452 --> 01:15:39,293
Speaker 2: would an event hire you to be there?

1661
01:15:39,893 --> 01:15:43,452
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it's it's in the private sector and we

1662
01:15:43,612 --> 01:15:50,772
Speaker 12: cover ultramarathons, mountain bike races, motocross running events here.

1663
01:15:51,372 --> 01:15:52,213
Speaker 4: It's a big change.

1664
01:15:53,732 --> 01:15:55,852
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well the.

1665
01:15:55,893 --> 01:16:00,012
Speaker 12: Adventure guiding, we laid the foundation for all those skills,

1666
01:16:00,093 --> 01:16:04,492
Speaker 12: so not a massive change really, to be honest, see

1667
01:16:04,492 --> 01:16:04,772
Speaker 12: what you're.

1668
01:16:04,652 --> 01:16:08,013
Speaker 2: Saying, same question asked Jason. Did you do a bit

1669
01:16:08,013 --> 01:16:10,173
Speaker 2: of recent search and get your head around or the

1670
01:16:10,333 --> 01:16:12,893
Speaker 2: tax side of it and the invoicing side of it,

1671
01:16:12,973 --> 01:16:15,572
Speaker 2: all that kind of financial stuff before you went in there.

1672
01:16:15,692 --> 01:16:20,412
Speaker 12: Yeah, that to be honest, that seemed quite daunting and overwhelming.

1673
01:16:20,532 --> 01:16:23,532
Speaker 12: But I just found a good accountant, sat down, had

1674
01:16:23,572 --> 01:16:27,412
Speaker 12: a yarn with him and they basically laid it out

1675
01:16:27,452 --> 01:16:30,892
Speaker 12: and then put all the worries at ease and sort

1676
01:16:30,933 --> 01:16:34,852
Speaker 12: of me out with zero, which is brilliant. And you've

1677
01:16:34,853 --> 01:16:37,732
Speaker 12: got a good, good accountant and you use something like zero,

1678
01:16:38,612 --> 01:16:39,773
Speaker 12: pretty straightforward.

1679
01:16:39,853 --> 01:16:42,492
Speaker 2: Really Yeah. Yeah, people just have to get it done

1680
01:16:42,532 --> 01:16:44,053
Speaker 2: a because I've known a few people that have just

1681
01:16:44,093 --> 01:16:45,372
Speaker 2: put it off and put it off and put it

1682
01:16:45,452 --> 01:16:47,572
Speaker 2: off when they've gone into self important, and then that

1683
01:16:48,173 --> 01:16:51,532
Speaker 2: hangs over their head becomes a stress and then it's

1684
01:16:51,612 --> 01:16:55,173
Speaker 2: like not you know, studying through the air and trying

1685
01:16:55,173 --> 01:16:57,852
Speaker 2: to swat for exams at the end. So if you

1686
01:16:58,013 --> 01:17:00,213
Speaker 2: keep on on it all the time, then it's actually

1687
01:17:00,293 --> 01:17:01,732
Speaker 2: not so bad. But I thank you so much of

1688
01:17:01,732 --> 01:17:04,173
Speaker 2: your corse Scott and good. How can people get hold

1689
01:17:04,173 --> 01:17:06,452
Speaker 2: of you? What if you need.

1690
01:17:09,293 --> 01:17:12,492
Speaker 12: I contract subcontract to a bunch of other companies, so

1691
01:17:13,572 --> 01:17:17,213
Speaker 12: I don't need to advertise I've got endless work coming

1692
01:17:17,253 --> 01:17:17,612
Speaker 12: at me, so.

1693
01:17:18,013 --> 01:17:22,532
Speaker 2: Mate, good on here. Yeah, yeah, a great position. What

1694
01:17:22,692 --> 01:17:25,612
Speaker 2: a great call to end on, Chris is being self

1695
01:17:25,652 --> 01:17:28,333
Speaker 2: employed does have potential award But the risks are massive,

1696
01:17:28,412 --> 01:17:31,572
Speaker 2: certainly no security headwinds are very draining, says Chris.

1697
01:17:31,772 --> 01:17:34,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, great text. Thank you to everyone who called and

1698
01:17:34,372 --> 01:17:35,053
Speaker 3: text on that.

1699
01:17:35,812 --> 01:17:36,213
Speaker 2: Good to hear.

1700
01:17:36,253 --> 01:17:38,452
Speaker 3: A lot of self employed people are doing pretty well

1701
01:17:38,612 --> 01:17:40,933
Speaker 3: even with the challenges we've got at the moment, so

1702
01:17:41,093 --> 01:17:43,652
Speaker 3: thank you very much. Right coming up after three o'clock,

1703
01:17:44,013 --> 01:17:46,972
Speaker 3: it is April Fool's Day tomorrow, so can you still

1704
01:17:47,053 --> 01:17:49,772
Speaker 3: get away with a good April Fool's Day prank?

1705
01:17:49,893 --> 01:17:51,412
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty six, I.

1706
01:17:51,492 --> 01:17:53,372
Speaker 2: Put it to you that April Fool's Day has died

1707
01:17:54,452 --> 01:17:58,452
Speaker 2: and the current climate has killed it. People are too

1708
01:17:58,492 --> 01:18:00,333
Speaker 2: scared and too serious and too sincere.

1709
01:18:00,652 --> 01:18:01,133
Speaker 4: Is Matt right?

1710
01:18:01,173 --> 01:18:02,772
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

1711
01:18:02,893 --> 01:18:05,293
Speaker 3: number to call? Nineteen niney two's the text news coming.

1712
01:18:05,173 --> 01:18:12,293
Speaker 1: Up, Big stories, use and everything in between. And it's

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01:18:12,412 --> 01:18:16,732
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoon Squid Shoda News Talk said,

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01:18:16,772 --> 01:18:18,372
Speaker 1: be very.

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01:18:18,293 --> 01:18:20,293
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show. Great,

1716
01:18:20,452 --> 01:18:22,452
Speaker 3: have your company. It is six past three.

1717
01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:27,012
Speaker 2: It is also actually before we get onto this topic,

1718
01:18:27,053 --> 01:18:29,852
Speaker 2: I just want to talk about something that made me laugh.

1719
01:18:30,173 --> 01:18:30,852
Speaker 4: Yep. Great.

1720
01:18:30,973 --> 01:18:32,452
Speaker 2: Are you a fan of shower thoughts?

1721
01:18:32,933 --> 01:18:35,293
Speaker 4: I love shower thoughts. Yep, I have many of them.

1722
01:18:35,612 --> 01:18:38,012
Speaker 2: So the most popular show thoughts person in the world

1723
01:18:38,133 --> 01:18:40,692
Speaker 2: is a guy called well well, his his content is

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01:18:40,772 --> 01:18:43,812
Speaker 2: under the name Deaji was taken yep. Have you seen

1725
01:18:43,853 --> 01:18:46,532
Speaker 2: that stuff that The guy's actual name is Dajid B.

1726
01:18:47,772 --> 01:18:49,133
Speaker 4: I have seen some of his stuff here.

1727
01:18:49,253 --> 01:18:51,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's huge across YouTube shorts and the shameful tech

1728
01:18:52,013 --> 01:18:54,012
Speaker 2: talk and Instagram reels.

1729
01:18:54,213 --> 01:18:54,412
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1730
01:18:54,772 --> 01:18:59,213
Speaker 2: But this morning, I my partner Tracy, just played me

1731
01:18:59,253 --> 01:19:02,012
Speaker 2: a couple of these and they just made my morning.

1732
01:19:02,812 --> 01:19:05,412
Speaker 2: So I thought I'd share one of these, these show thoughts.

1733
01:19:05,412 --> 01:19:07,372
Speaker 2: And the great thing is it's two guys in a

1734
01:19:07,452 --> 01:19:12,773
Speaker 2: fake podcast type situation and one of them is continually

1735
01:19:12,893 --> 01:19:15,333
Speaker 2: throwing these shower thoughts at the other one, and the

1736
01:19:15,372 --> 01:19:18,572
Speaker 2: other one is just furious about the switch situation and

1737
01:19:19,293 --> 01:19:22,133
Speaker 2: asking if they can leave. So here's an example of it.

1738
01:19:22,772 --> 01:19:32,412
Speaker 21: If one teeth is a tooth and one geese is

1739
01:19:32,492 --> 01:19:39,132
Speaker 21: a goose, then doesn't that mean that one sheep should

1740
01:19:39,173 --> 01:19:39,732
Speaker 21: be a shop.

1741
01:19:43,893 --> 01:19:47,133
Speaker 2: I've threatened you with police arrest.

1742
01:19:47,692 --> 01:19:48,852
Speaker 4: What else do you want me to do?

1743
01:19:53,732 --> 01:19:57,732
Speaker 2: I've threatened you with police arrest for this. Here's another one.

1744
01:19:58,093 --> 01:20:11,133
Speaker 4: If a turtle loses its shelf. Is it naked.

1745
01:20:12,572 --> 01:20:13,132
Speaker 12: Or pious?

1746
01:20:20,173 --> 01:20:23,173
Speaker 2: The dramatic nature of the music really as good. Really,

1747
01:20:23,253 --> 01:20:26,932
Speaker 2: it's the tension. That's a great question.

1748
01:20:27,253 --> 01:20:29,133
Speaker 4: That is a great question. That's a great show thought.

1749
01:20:29,253 --> 01:20:32,652
Speaker 2: One more, no more, one more? Please, one more, one more,

1750
01:20:32,973 --> 01:20:33,892
Speaker 2: one more, team more.

1751
01:20:34,093 --> 01:20:41,213
Speaker 25: If this symbol for ion on the periodic table is

1752
01:20:41,452 --> 01:20:47,532
Speaker 25: f E and a man is also considered to be

1753
01:20:47,572 --> 01:20:54,372
Speaker 25: a male, okay, then doesn't that mean that ion man

1754
01:20:54,893 --> 01:20:56,452
Speaker 25: can also be considered female?

1755
01:21:01,492 --> 01:21:02,932
Speaker 4: Oh it is genius?

1756
01:21:04,772 --> 01:21:06,133
Speaker 2: Dais was taken?

1757
01:21:06,652 --> 01:21:06,892
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1758
01:21:07,692 --> 01:21:12,013
Speaker 2: I feet all right, okay, all right.

1759
01:21:12,173 --> 01:21:13,852
Speaker 3: That is some good stuff. That is what we need

1760
01:21:13,933 --> 01:21:16,372
Speaker 3: in today's world. I mean, those our thoughts, that's.

1761
01:21:16,612 --> 01:21:20,732
Speaker 2: That's a good they're there. They really make you think.

1762
01:21:20,893 --> 01:21:21,852
Speaker 4: Yeah, they certainly do.

1763
01:21:22,253 --> 01:21:24,093
Speaker 3: All right, moving on, all right, that is some good

1764
01:21:24,133 --> 01:21:27,412
Speaker 3: stuff right there. Moving on, But speaking about good stuff.

1765
01:21:27,452 --> 01:21:31,653
Speaker 3: April Fool's Day joke. So April Fool's Day is tomorrow,

1766
01:21:32,133 --> 01:21:34,492
Speaker 3: and typically I think we'd all remember a time where

1767
01:21:34,532 --> 01:21:37,092
Speaker 3: you would see a whole bunch of pranks being undertaken

1768
01:21:37,133 --> 01:21:42,412
Speaker 3: by individuals and families, by companies themselves. But over the

1769
01:21:42,532 --> 01:21:46,132
Speaker 3: last couple of years it seems to have fallen away somewhat.

1770
01:21:46,293 --> 01:21:49,372
Speaker 3: The grand old spectacle of a good April Fools joke.

1771
01:21:49,772 --> 01:21:53,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a couple of theories about this rabid HR.

1772
01:21:53,933 --> 01:21:57,092
Speaker 2: You know, HR is growing in every company, getting bigger

1773
01:21:57,093 --> 01:22:00,572
Speaker 2: and bigger and more aggressive, yes, and looking to attack

1774
01:22:00,612 --> 01:22:03,612
Speaker 2: anyone that does anything even slightly interesting.

1775
01:22:03,772 --> 01:22:03,932
Speaker 23: Yep.

1776
01:22:04,532 --> 01:22:05,973
Speaker 2: But that that's a big part of it. So the

1777
01:22:06,013 --> 01:22:09,772
Speaker 2: culture within workplaces and officers are a huge part of that. Also,

1778
01:22:09,853 --> 01:22:14,772
Speaker 2: there's there's the theory that social media there's just constant misinformation, satire,

1779
01:22:15,372 --> 01:22:19,572
Speaker 2: and you know, headlines already feel like jokes, so it's

1780
01:22:20,093 --> 01:22:26,012
Speaker 2: you know, there's there's just more ridiculousness about than ever before,

1781
01:22:26,372 --> 01:22:29,612
Speaker 2: so it doesn't feel special potentially, Yeah, I can I

1782
01:22:29,692 --> 01:22:32,572
Speaker 2: can see that these are a couple of theories. And

1783
01:22:33,213 --> 01:22:36,412
Speaker 2: brands risk quite a lot to do the jokes, right.

1784
01:22:36,933 --> 01:22:39,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a couple that haven't worked in the

1785
01:22:39,133 --> 01:22:41,973
Speaker 3: past from various brands and April Fools jokes that have

1786
01:22:42,173 --> 01:22:45,732
Speaker 3: gone wrong. But I mean, do you think we're just

1787
01:22:45,812 --> 01:22:47,812
Speaker 3: a little bit too sensitive in twenty twenty six.

1788
01:22:48,532 --> 01:22:50,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like say, for example, now I'm looking at this

1789
01:22:50,933 --> 01:22:53,893
Speaker 2: this keyboard here that I share with Mike Costking in

1790
01:22:53,973 --> 01:22:58,892
Speaker 2: the morning. Actually that would have Heathers next. So I'd

1791
01:22:58,933 --> 01:23:00,692
Speaker 2: have to tie it. Actually, it wouldn't work. I couldn't

1792
01:23:00,732 --> 01:23:03,052
Speaker 2: do this because I would be playing an April Fool's

1793
01:23:03,093 --> 01:23:06,772
Speaker 2: joke on Heather before it gets to Mike. Yes, but

1794
01:23:06,893 --> 01:23:09,372
Speaker 2: I could just flick some of the keys off and

1795
01:23:09,492 --> 01:23:10,093
Speaker 2: move them around.

1796
01:23:11,053 --> 01:23:11,692
Speaker 4: You could do that.

1797
01:23:12,053 --> 01:23:13,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, you can do that, And then that would

1798
01:23:13,853 --> 01:23:14,253
Speaker 2: be annoying.

1799
01:23:14,412 --> 01:23:15,733
Speaker 4: It would be very annoying.

1800
01:23:15,412 --> 01:23:18,452
Speaker 2: Because both those both those hosts type with their fingers,

1801
01:23:18,532 --> 01:23:20,412
Speaker 2: two fingers, so they look I'm a touch topus. It

1802
01:23:20,412 --> 01:23:22,652
Speaker 2: wouldn't change anything for me, no, but but for them

1803
01:23:22,692 --> 01:23:23,212
Speaker 2: it would.

1804
01:23:22,973 --> 01:23:25,012
Speaker 4: Be yep, just the two index fingers.

1805
01:23:25,253 --> 01:23:27,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I think that would Hosking does it

1806
01:23:27,532 --> 01:23:28,532
Speaker 2: with his little pinkies.

1807
01:23:28,652 --> 01:23:29,372
Speaker 4: I don't know he does.

1808
01:23:29,853 --> 01:23:30,372
Speaker 2: It's quite odd.

1809
01:23:30,412 --> 01:23:31,173
Speaker 4: I don't know who taught them.

1810
01:23:31,213 --> 01:23:32,172
Speaker 2: Man, it's so delicate.

1811
01:23:32,293 --> 01:23:33,172
Speaker 4: It is very delicate.

1812
01:23:34,532 --> 01:23:35,852
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what I mean. That would But

1813
01:23:36,253 --> 01:23:38,812
Speaker 2: in a workplace like this, I think that would be

1814
01:23:39,213 --> 01:23:42,173
Speaker 2: I think there would be massive repercussions for me. Not

1815
01:23:42,333 --> 01:23:44,652
Speaker 2: not that I care, but in fact, now I've said it,

1816
01:23:44,692 --> 01:23:47,572
Speaker 2: I'll definitely do it. But you know what I mean.

1817
01:23:47,612 --> 01:23:49,492
Speaker 2: It's back in the day it used to be expected

1818
01:23:49,532 --> 01:23:51,372
Speaker 2: that you that you'd turn up to work and there

1819
01:23:51,372 --> 01:23:52,892
Speaker 2: would be an office prank.

1820
01:23:53,173 --> 01:23:55,093
Speaker 3: Right, Everyone would get a good laugh out of it,

1821
01:23:55,333 --> 01:23:58,652
Speaker 3: even the person who was supposedly the full They could

1822
01:23:58,692 --> 01:23:59,652
Speaker 3: see the funny side.

1823
01:23:59,532 --> 01:24:03,732
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, But but are you planning officers, schools,

1824
01:24:03,772 --> 01:24:07,053
Speaker 2: small start skull pranks? Are they still are they still on?

1825
01:24:07,173 --> 01:24:09,052
Speaker 2: Are you going to do your plan to prank anyone

1826
01:24:09,053 --> 01:24:09,333
Speaker 2: at home?

1827
01:24:09,452 --> 01:24:09,652
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1828
01:24:09,732 --> 01:24:11,812
Speaker 2: This Texas says of why the farm gates to the

1829
01:24:11,853 --> 01:24:15,293
Speaker 2: electric fences? Happy, Happy April Fools Day?

1830
01:24:16,213 --> 01:24:17,012
Speaker 4: That is genius.

1831
01:24:17,333 --> 01:24:19,572
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty. Are you trying to

1832
01:24:19,612 --> 01:24:22,532
Speaker 3: get back into the April Fools spirit tomorrow? Oh, one

1833
01:24:22,612 --> 01:24:24,253
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten Eightyes, at number to call nine

1834
01:24:24,333 --> 01:24:27,532
Speaker 3: two nine two is the text. I can remember one

1835
01:24:27,612 --> 01:24:29,452
Speaker 3: actually when I grew up in Nelson, and it was

1836
01:24:29,532 --> 01:24:31,372
Speaker 3: one that was done by the local paper and it

1837
01:24:31,452 --> 01:24:34,293
Speaker 3: went down terribly. And I'll share that with you after

1838
01:24:34,333 --> 01:24:37,293
Speaker 3: we play some messages. But taking your calls April Fools jokes?

1839
01:24:37,612 --> 01:24:39,532
Speaker 3: Are they still okay in twenty twenty six? And what

1840
01:24:39,572 --> 01:24:42,333
Speaker 3: are you planning tomorrow? If anything? Love to hear from you.

1841
01:24:42,412 --> 01:24:45,253
Speaker 3: It is thirteen past three US talks. It'd be very

1842
01:24:45,293 --> 01:24:47,532
Speaker 3: good afternoon, Sue. It is a quarter past three. We're

1843
01:24:47,572 --> 01:24:50,612
Speaker 3: talking about April Fool's jokes. Are they still a thing

1844
01:24:50,652 --> 01:24:51,652
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six?

1845
01:24:51,772 --> 01:24:54,092
Speaker 2: Are there any corporations out there that do? Any companies?

1846
01:24:54,173 --> 01:24:59,293
Speaker 2: Because famously, in nineteen ninety eight, Burking advertised the left

1847
01:24:59,293 --> 01:25:02,932
Speaker 2: handed Whopper, didn't they and a lot of people were

1848
01:25:03,253 --> 01:25:05,732
Speaker 2: trying to order the left handed Whopper. Yes, so that

1849
01:25:05,893 --> 01:25:07,652
Speaker 2: used to be a there used to be a thing. Yeah,

1850
01:25:07,772 --> 01:25:08,812
Speaker 2: Brand's got all amongst that.

1851
01:25:08,933 --> 01:25:09,572
Speaker 4: But what do you say?

1852
01:25:09,732 --> 01:25:11,452
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighteen eighty is number to call?

1853
01:25:11,532 --> 01:25:12,012
Speaker 4: Get a ross?

1854
01:25:12,732 --> 01:25:13,852
Speaker 26: Good guys?

1855
01:25:13,893 --> 01:25:15,053
Speaker 4: How are you very good?

1856
01:25:15,692 --> 01:25:17,012
Speaker 26: What an interesting program?

1857
01:25:18,133 --> 01:25:18,692
Speaker 7: Can you tell you?

1858
01:25:18,772 --> 01:25:19,812
Speaker 27: What happened? What happened?

1859
01:25:19,893 --> 01:25:22,412
Speaker 26: I used to work at Runnington and I was other

1860
01:25:22,492 --> 01:25:24,973
Speaker 26: young men too, but we had this boy. It was

1861
01:25:25,053 --> 01:25:31,572
Speaker 26: just it was April Four's day and this boy was

1862
01:25:31,652 --> 01:25:34,812
Speaker 26: working there and he was real sucky. You know, he

1863
01:25:34,893 --> 01:25:37,732
Speaker 26: didn't nobody's liked him. He hated doing anything.

1864
01:25:37,812 --> 01:25:39,213
Speaker 22: And so so we all.

1865
01:25:39,173 --> 01:25:42,852
Speaker 26: Decided that on the A Four's day that went all

1866
01:25:42,933 --> 01:25:45,452
Speaker 26: getting up a bit and tell him how sick he looked.

1867
01:25:47,013 --> 01:25:49,973
Speaker 26: And I'd walked past us, say god, have you been

1868
01:25:50,013 --> 01:25:52,652
Speaker 26: there on the booze all night? See you look crooked?

1869
01:25:53,013 --> 01:25:53,173
Speaker 7: You know?

1870
01:25:53,412 --> 01:25:57,932
Speaker 26: And Nick well do you want some difference or anything?

1871
01:25:57,973 --> 01:26:02,772
Speaker 26: You know, in the year after this happened without half

1872
01:26:02,772 --> 01:26:05,452
Speaker 26: a dozen guys, he was convinced that he was sick.

1873
01:26:05,692 --> 01:26:08,492
Speaker 2: So he went home, poor little.

1874
01:26:11,692 --> 01:26:12,452
Speaker 6: There was a group of.

1875
01:26:12,492 --> 01:26:14,772
Speaker 26: Guys that we will work with. See what's one of

1876
01:26:14,853 --> 01:26:19,372
Speaker 26: the boys if you like. So we went home sick. Anyway,

1877
01:26:19,853 --> 01:26:22,492
Speaker 26: Was that sort just joke at the time, you know,

1878
01:26:22,652 --> 01:26:23,252
Speaker 26: a little.

1879
01:26:23,013 --> 01:26:23,852
Speaker 4: Bit of light hazing?

1880
01:26:23,973 --> 01:26:24,133
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1881
01:26:24,253 --> 01:26:24,692
Speaker 4: Did he did?

1882
01:26:24,732 --> 01:26:26,973
Speaker 3: He come back the next day and you said, just

1883
01:26:27,013 --> 01:26:30,133
Speaker 3: an April fool's joke, mate, No, we didn't.

1884
01:26:30,173 --> 01:26:32,093
Speaker 26: I just said, you all said to him, you look

1885
01:26:32,173 --> 01:26:33,093
Speaker 26: better today.

1886
01:26:35,372 --> 01:26:37,933
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, mate, good to hear. Oh e

1887
01:26:37,933 --> 01:26:40,173
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1888
01:26:40,333 --> 01:26:42,732
Speaker 2: Someone was saying that they're planning at work tomorrow to

1889
01:26:42,812 --> 01:26:45,452
Speaker 2: go round and change the orientation of scrolling on all

1890
01:26:45,532 --> 01:26:48,772
Speaker 2: their computers, so you know, you can you know, people

1891
01:26:48,853 --> 01:26:50,612
Speaker 2: have their way that they either go down or up right?

1892
01:26:50,732 --> 01:26:50,932
Speaker 4: Yep.

1893
01:26:51,452 --> 01:26:54,652
Speaker 2: And but is that a prank or just annoying? Like

1894
01:26:54,772 --> 01:26:56,892
Speaker 2: does it have to be cleverer than that, because you're

1895
01:26:56,933 --> 01:27:00,293
Speaker 2: just going around annoying, making people slightly annoyed.

1896
01:27:00,412 --> 01:27:01,572
Speaker 4: I would get a dick out of that.

1897
01:27:01,652 --> 01:27:02,452
Speaker 2: And then you come and go.

1898
01:27:02,732 --> 01:27:05,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, if someone did it to me, I'd be really

1899
01:27:05,412 --> 01:27:07,892
Speaker 3: rarely peeved off, but I would get a kick out

1900
01:27:07,933 --> 01:27:08,053
Speaker 3: of that.

1901
01:27:08,093 --> 01:27:09,853
Speaker 4: Watch people and getting frustrated.

1902
01:27:11,372 --> 01:27:14,492
Speaker 2: Two is the text number this Texas season twenty fifteen.

1903
01:27:14,532 --> 01:27:16,652
Speaker 2: BMW New Market ran an ad in the Herald on

1904
01:27:16,692 --> 01:27:19,253
Speaker 2: April Fool's Day that it would trade any car for

1905
01:27:19,372 --> 01:27:21,972
Speaker 2: a fifty k BMW if they bought in the coupon.

1906
01:27:22,732 --> 01:27:25,013
Speaker 2: It was true. A woman turned up and traded in

1907
01:27:25,093 --> 01:27:29,093
Speaker 2: an old banger. So that that was sort of, oh

1908
01:27:29,333 --> 01:27:31,812
Speaker 2: my goodness, way have I forgot it? What's the opposite

1909
01:27:31,853 --> 01:27:32,293
Speaker 2: card game?

1910
01:27:33,093 --> 01:27:33,213
Speaker 11: Uh?

1911
01:27:33,893 --> 01:27:38,173
Speaker 2: You know, no, no, someone will tell me anyway. Yeah,

1912
01:27:38,253 --> 01:27:40,532
Speaker 2: So that they sort of double double tricky there, because

1913
01:27:40,532 --> 01:27:43,892
Speaker 2: everyone was this April fool Day, you're having an April

1914
01:27:43,893 --> 01:27:46,173
Speaker 2: fools Day gag. But this person, I wonder if they

1915
01:27:46,213 --> 01:27:47,973
Speaker 2: went and they double played it, or they just were

1916
01:27:47,973 --> 01:27:50,092
Speaker 2: an idiot. They got a car for being an idiot.

1917
01:27:50,253 --> 01:27:52,892
Speaker 3: Checkpot for that woman. Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten

1918
01:27:52,933 --> 01:27:54,852
Speaker 3: eighties and number to call Richard.

1919
01:27:54,893 --> 01:27:55,492
Speaker 4: How are you mate?

1920
01:27:56,333 --> 01:27:56,452
Speaker 16: Well?

1921
01:27:56,492 --> 01:27:59,612
Speaker 1: Hello Matt, Hello Tyler, how are you both very well?

1922
01:28:00,692 --> 01:28:05,133
Speaker 15: Oh god, it was me that did it fifty years ago.

1923
01:28:05,213 --> 01:28:05,652
Speaker 24: I think it was.

1924
01:28:05,772 --> 01:28:07,253
Speaker 20: It might have been the day out for it before,

1925
01:28:07,293 --> 01:28:10,293
Speaker 20: but it was April four. Whereas working at the time,

1926
01:28:10,652 --> 01:28:14,093
Speaker 20: the supervisor, we're filling up the hot water cylinder with

1927
01:28:14,173 --> 01:28:16,732
Speaker 20: those teapots. You know, it gives tea to about half

1928
01:28:16,732 --> 01:28:19,852
Speaker 20: a dozen people. Yet the game, the toilet or whatever

1929
01:28:20,053 --> 01:28:20,812
Speaker 20: go to the phone.

1930
01:28:21,293 --> 01:28:22,293
Speaker 23: So he told me to watch it.

1931
01:28:23,213 --> 01:28:25,572
Speaker 20: It comes back two minutes late or five minutes later,

1932
01:28:25,652 --> 01:28:27,532
Speaker 20: whatever it was, and all the tea was all over

1933
01:28:27,612 --> 01:28:30,652
Speaker 20: the floor, water was all over the floor. He's going

1934
01:28:30,732 --> 01:28:33,213
Speaker 20: when he went bloody to circuit me, why have you

1935
01:28:33,293 --> 01:28:34,932
Speaker 20: turned off? I said, you didn't tell me to turn

1936
01:28:34,973 --> 01:28:35,293
Speaker 20: it's up.

1937
01:28:35,333 --> 01:28:36,372
Speaker 23: You just told me to watch out.

1938
01:28:39,572 --> 01:28:43,532
Speaker 2: Not bad riches, not bad. It's a classic, but still good.

1939
01:28:45,093 --> 01:28:46,213
Speaker 4: Two is the text.

1940
01:28:46,253 --> 01:28:49,093
Speaker 3: A couple of nice texts coming through. We'll get to

1941
01:28:49,133 --> 01:28:51,772
Speaker 3: a few of those very shortly. It is twenty past three.

1942
01:28:51,812 --> 01:28:53,612
Speaker 3: But O one hundred and eighty ten eighty are you

1943
01:28:53,732 --> 01:28:57,052
Speaker 3: planning anything for April falls tomorrow? And if you're a business,

1944
01:28:57,412 --> 01:29:00,812
Speaker 3: is it still worthwhile to think about something? Clever Spaces

1945
01:29:00,893 --> 01:29:03,612
Speaker 3: once offered a free free beer from the water tap

1946
01:29:03,692 --> 01:29:06,013
Speaker 3: on the outside of the brewery. See, I think I

1947
01:29:06,133 --> 01:29:08,173
Speaker 3: remember that, and I think I didn't know that they

1948
01:29:08,213 --> 01:29:10,333
Speaker 3: were wasn't I think I thought that was real.

1949
01:29:10,532 --> 01:29:11,692
Speaker 2: Wasn't there lines out the door?

1950
01:29:12,133 --> 01:29:12,333
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1951
01:29:12,612 --> 01:29:14,532
Speaker 3: So like half of Dunedin came out to try and

1952
01:29:14,572 --> 01:29:16,053
Speaker 3: get a free beer from their tap.

1953
01:29:16,492 --> 01:29:18,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just water on rattray straight.

1954
01:29:18,772 --> 01:29:18,972
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1955
01:29:19,093 --> 01:29:21,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is good work from spats. Oh eight hundred

1956
01:29:21,532 --> 01:29:22,812
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1957
01:29:22,893 --> 01:29:29,773
Speaker 1: It is twenty past three, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons

1958
01:29:29,973 --> 01:29:33,253
Speaker 1: call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty on youth Talk ZB.

1959
01:29:33,293 --> 01:29:36,013
Speaker 3: Twenty two past three? Is April Fool's dead? Or are

1960
01:29:36,053 --> 01:29:38,412
Speaker 3: you planning something tomorrow? Or what have you done in

1961
01:29:38,452 --> 01:29:40,173
Speaker 3: the past eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1962
01:29:40,293 --> 01:29:40,412
Speaker 15: See.

1963
01:29:40,492 --> 01:29:42,173
Speaker 2: Big corporations used to do it all the time, you'd

1964
01:29:42,213 --> 01:29:46,293
Speaker 2: expect them. Famously, in twenty thirteen, Google did Google Nos.

1965
01:29:46,372 --> 01:29:49,452
Speaker 2: Google claimed users could smell search results through their screens.

1966
01:29:50,013 --> 01:29:52,732
Speaker 2: It had a full product page in demo video. You see.

1967
01:29:52,973 --> 01:29:55,452
Speaker 2: You just don't see people doing that kind of thing anymore.

1968
01:29:55,492 --> 01:29:57,092
Speaker 2: As much corporations are too scared.

1969
01:29:57,173 --> 01:30:00,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's kind of clever, pretty harmless. There's not

1970
01:30:00,093 --> 01:30:01,692
Speaker 3: going to be any backlash to that sort of.

1971
01:30:02,253 --> 01:30:07,572
Speaker 2: Someone points out that that it's you've got to fool

1972
01:30:07,692 --> 01:30:11,692
Speaker 2: someone can't just do something annoying. There's a slight difference

1973
01:30:11,772 --> 01:30:15,013
Speaker 2: for it. So it has to be something that is

1974
01:30:15,093 --> 01:30:18,492
Speaker 2: so ridiculous that it's silly that you believed it. Yeah,

1975
01:30:18,893 --> 01:30:22,173
Speaker 2: you can't just smear feces on someone's keyboard, you know

1976
01:30:22,213 --> 01:30:25,253
Speaker 2: what I mean? That's that's not an April Fools.

1977
01:30:25,612 --> 01:30:26,732
Speaker 4: There's nothing clever about that.

1978
01:30:27,093 --> 01:30:29,532
Speaker 2: You're the idiot for doing that. They haven't done anything

1979
01:30:29,572 --> 01:30:32,293
Speaker 2: stupid by being caught by it. There's got to be

1980
01:30:32,333 --> 01:30:34,532
Speaker 2: an intellectual level to it. You've got to find the

1981
01:30:34,732 --> 01:30:38,372
Speaker 2: level of So when they go, they'll go. Of course

1982
01:30:38,452 --> 01:30:41,412
Speaker 2: that wasn't true. Yeah, of course it's April Fool's Day.

1983
01:30:41,532 --> 01:30:44,732
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like the left handed whopper. It's clever.

1984
01:30:45,093 --> 01:30:46,013
Speaker 4: Well this one.

1985
01:30:46,412 --> 01:30:49,692
Speaker 3: A few people are texting through the Swiss spaghetti harvest.

1986
01:30:49,732 --> 01:30:52,572
Speaker 3: So and in April, the first news segment the BBC

1987
01:30:52,692 --> 01:30:55,732
Speaker 3: presented its viewers with a cheerful reports Swiss farm farmers

1988
01:30:55,772 --> 01:30:59,532
Speaker 3: were celebrating an unusually plentiful spaghetti crop thanks to Balmi

1989
01:30:59,612 --> 01:31:02,933
Speaker 3: winter and the eradication of the menacing spaghetti weavil. The

1990
01:31:03,013 --> 01:31:08,052
Speaker 3: story included stage footage of workers plucking limp pasta from trees. Amazingly,

1991
01:31:08,093 --> 01:31:09,933
Speaker 3: a lot of people believe that something like that.

1992
01:31:10,173 --> 01:31:10,333
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1993
01:31:10,492 --> 01:31:13,213
Speaker 2: Facts, it's funny, it's clever. Yeah, it's different if you

1994
01:31:13,293 --> 01:31:15,372
Speaker 2: believe it, you're a full Yeah, you know, it's not

1995
01:31:15,492 --> 01:31:17,893
Speaker 2: trying someone's shoelaces together such that they fall over and

1996
01:31:17,973 --> 01:31:18,812
Speaker 2: smash their face, and.

1997
01:31:18,853 --> 01:31:19,652
Speaker 4: It would be pretty funny.

1998
01:31:22,452 --> 01:31:27,572
Speaker 6: Yeah, no pressure now then I'm good. And as you said,

1999
01:31:27,612 --> 01:31:28,852
Speaker 6: my name is Jeff. I used to be in the

2000
01:31:28,893 --> 01:31:32,293
Speaker 6: Guards in London and the horse Guard, and then we

2001
01:31:32,412 --> 01:31:35,133
Speaker 6: took some horses to Windsor on the thirty first of March.

2002
01:31:35,532 --> 01:31:37,333
Speaker 6: And while we were there the boss said, yoh, well

2003
01:31:37,452 --> 01:31:39,973
Speaker 6: thin you here, you can do guard. So we were

2004
01:31:40,053 --> 01:31:42,093
Speaker 6: in guard and two o'clock in the morning we get

2005
01:31:42,133 --> 01:31:44,772
Speaker 6: a phone call from the police. One of your horses

2006
01:31:44,893 --> 01:31:48,732
Speaker 6: is loose on Prescott Street, Windsor. I put the phone

2007
01:31:48,772 --> 01:31:52,013
Speaker 6: down to Able full good night, and two minutes later

2008
01:31:52,133 --> 01:31:54,893
Speaker 6: phone rings again. Same guy, it's the police, one of

2009
01:31:54,973 --> 01:32:00,253
Speaker 6: your horses loose. Nicole Fable put the phone down. The

2010
01:32:00,372 --> 01:32:02,852
Speaker 6: policeman turned up in the car. He said, mate, there's

2011
01:32:02,893 --> 01:32:05,293
Speaker 6: a horse loose near the castle. You need to come

2012
01:32:05,372 --> 01:32:08,253
Speaker 6: and get it. So I could have put some hard

2013
01:32:08,412 --> 01:32:10,812
Speaker 6: feeding it and a bridle and I went up there

2014
01:32:10,853 --> 01:32:12,652
Speaker 6: and As soon as we pulled up, I sword it

2015
01:32:12,772 --> 01:32:17,932
Speaker 6: was a gypsy donkey. It was a black monkey, filthy donkey.

2016
01:32:18,293 --> 01:32:21,253
Speaker 6: And I said, he goes, is it not yours? I said,

2017
01:32:21,293 --> 01:32:23,173
Speaker 6: you see it? And the mid mate he goes, how

2018
01:32:23,173 --> 01:32:24,452
Speaker 6: are we going to get it? I said, make a

2019
01:32:24,452 --> 01:32:29,013
Speaker 6: noise like a carrot. It goes, what am I going

2020
01:32:29,053 --> 01:32:30,293
Speaker 6: to do? I said, I'll get it for you. But

2021
01:32:30,412 --> 01:32:32,812
Speaker 6: you're taking it because it's not coming next to my horses.

2022
01:32:33,732 --> 01:32:36,692
Speaker 2: See that's a complicated situation. You're in the gift because

2023
01:32:36,692 --> 01:32:39,692
Speaker 2: you're assuming it's April Folds and then right, and then

2024
01:32:39,732 --> 01:32:41,572
Speaker 2: you go, oh, no, it's not because he's pulled up,

2025
01:32:41,612 --> 01:32:43,293
Speaker 2: and then you get there and you see the donkey.

2026
01:32:43,492 --> 01:32:46,452
Speaker 6: The policeman turned up and he ht me up there

2027
01:32:46,452 --> 01:32:48,333
Speaker 6: in his car. Yeah, I couldn't believe it.

2028
01:32:48,652 --> 01:32:51,492
Speaker 2: So he wasn't an April Fools. But the fact there

2029
01:32:51,572 --> 01:32:54,612
Speaker 2: was such a stupid horse that clearly wasn't yours. At

2030
01:32:54,652 --> 01:32:56,492
Speaker 2: that point you're still thinking it's April Fools.

2031
01:32:57,333 --> 01:32:59,333
Speaker 6: I did until he said, we don't know where his

2032
01:32:59,412 --> 01:33:01,213
Speaker 6: belove made. Is just one of them things. But I

2033
01:33:01,333 --> 01:33:03,452
Speaker 6: kept putting the phone down on him, saying April film.

2034
01:33:04,133 --> 01:33:05,892
Speaker 6: So he has to turn up in the guardroom.

2035
01:33:06,333 --> 01:33:07,852
Speaker 4: Oh mate, what happened to the donkey?

2036
01:33:08,452 --> 01:33:08,692
Speaker 15: Must be?

2037
01:33:08,853 --> 01:33:09,053
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2038
01:33:09,093 --> 01:33:09,452
Speaker 11: What what?

2039
01:33:09,612 --> 01:33:11,213
Speaker 2: What happened with the donkey?

2040
01:33:13,013 --> 01:33:13,772
Speaker 6: What color was it?

2041
01:33:14,133 --> 01:33:14,173
Speaker 8: No?

2042
01:33:14,333 --> 01:33:14,973
Speaker 4: What happened to it?

2043
01:33:15,053 --> 01:33:16,213
Speaker 2: What happened in the end of the donkeys?

2044
01:33:16,812 --> 01:33:18,452
Speaker 6: We we just got it and I left him with

2045
01:33:18,532 --> 01:33:20,133
Speaker 6: it because he couldn't come next to it. It could

2046
01:33:20,173 --> 01:33:22,053
Speaker 6: have unmeaned or anything. And I said, it's not coming

2047
01:33:22,093 --> 01:33:22,773
Speaker 6: in mostable.

2048
01:33:24,853 --> 01:33:26,852
Speaker 2: So if you're a police officer, you like it's April fourth,

2049
01:33:26,893 --> 01:33:29,652
Speaker 2: I'm having to deal with a donkey. Yeah, what's going

2050
01:33:29,692 --> 01:33:30,013
Speaker 2: on here?

2051
01:33:30,452 --> 01:33:30,612
Speaker 23: Oh?

2052
01:33:30,772 --> 01:33:34,133
Speaker 4: Jeff? That was beautiful peach for that, mate. And eighty

2053
01:33:34,253 --> 01:33:35,612
Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number to call.

2054
01:33:35,893 --> 01:33:38,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people text me through with Mark Allison, Ranger,

2055
01:33:38,893 --> 01:33:41,532
Speaker 2: Toto and the the the what did he lighted? There

2056
01:33:41,612 --> 01:33:43,013
Speaker 2: was at a tire or something sort of smoke coming

2057
01:33:43,013 --> 01:33:44,372
Speaker 2: out the top of it was a fleaar, wasn't it?

2058
01:33:44,452 --> 01:33:46,333
Speaker 2: So it looked like it was erupting.

2059
01:33:46,572 --> 01:33:48,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's pretty funny there did the

2060
01:33:49,053 --> 01:33:50,372
Speaker 3: hallmarks have been very clever.

2061
01:33:50,532 --> 01:33:52,812
Speaker 2: It wasn't quite as funny as his wearing the pumpkin

2062
01:33:53,013 --> 01:33:55,532
Speaker 2: on his head instead of a helmet down three Mile

2063
01:33:55,652 --> 01:33:56,612
Speaker 2: Hill and deneed and that was funny.

2064
01:33:56,732 --> 01:33:57,492
Speaker 4: He had some doozies.

2065
01:33:57,532 --> 01:33:59,213
Speaker 2: Old Mark ellis in a great New zealandery.

2066
01:33:59,293 --> 01:34:01,213
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, Derek, how are you?

2067
01:34:02,053 --> 01:34:02,732
Speaker 6: You're good mate.

2068
01:34:02,812 --> 01:34:04,692
Speaker 28: So I don't know what year it was, it was

2069
01:34:04,853 --> 01:34:07,692
Speaker 28: early two thousands. I was trying to work and this

2070
01:34:07,893 --> 01:34:09,852
Speaker 28: is a year and the sports news come on and

2071
01:34:10,412 --> 01:34:12,213
Speaker 28: the Brokers were signing Dennis Rodman.

2072
01:34:12,732 --> 01:34:13,732
Speaker 1: I was like, yay.

2073
01:34:14,013 --> 01:34:16,293
Speaker 28: So I went around the whole job site telling an

2074
01:34:16,293 --> 01:34:19,612
Speaker 28: everyone that Breakers have just signed Dennis Rodman and just

2075
01:34:19,692 --> 01:34:21,372
Speaker 28: dore on twelve o'clock. They go, oh, that was an

2076
01:34:21,412 --> 01:34:22,612
Speaker 28: April fool's joke, and I was.

2077
01:34:22,652 --> 01:34:23,652
Speaker 7: Just like, oh gosh.

2078
01:34:24,372 --> 01:34:24,572
Speaker 11: See.

2079
01:34:24,652 --> 01:34:26,492
Speaker 2: The reason why that would work was because there's so

2080
01:34:26,612 --> 01:34:29,013
Speaker 2: much crazy stuff about Dennis Rodman. I mean hanging out

2081
01:34:29,053 --> 01:34:29,572
Speaker 2: with kill.

2082
01:34:29,492 --> 01:34:29,812
Speaker 1: John on.

2083
01:34:31,692 --> 01:34:32,253
Speaker 4: Believable.

2084
01:34:32,492 --> 01:34:32,692
Speaker 29: Yeah.

2085
01:34:33,452 --> 01:34:34,692
Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah.

2086
01:34:34,732 --> 01:34:36,372
Speaker 2: So that's why it's a good one, isn't it. It

2087
01:34:36,532 --> 01:34:40,932
Speaker 2: is because it's just believable or not enough. But then

2088
01:34:40,973 --> 01:34:42,892
Speaker 2: when you hear it, you go, of course that was ridiculous.

2089
01:34:42,933 --> 01:34:44,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, part of your brains saying that's crazy. But what

2090
01:34:45,093 --> 01:34:46,892
Speaker 3: is Dennis Rodman up to? I mean, you can use

2091
01:34:46,893 --> 01:34:49,253
Speaker 3: a bit of extra cash. Maybe maybe they've got them

2092
01:34:49,253 --> 01:34:51,293
Speaker 3: back out of retirement. Yeah, thanks for that, Derek, Yeah,

2093
01:34:51,333 --> 01:34:53,452
Speaker 3: thank you very much. Nine two niney two is the

2094
01:34:53,692 --> 01:34:56,213
Speaker 3: text as well. We'll get to a few of those

2095
01:34:56,452 --> 01:34:59,173
Speaker 3: very shortly headlines with Wendy coming up, but taking your

2096
01:34:59,213 --> 01:35:01,173
Speaker 3: calls on one hundred and eighty ten eighty Is April

2097
01:35:01,213 --> 01:35:03,652
Speaker 3: Fools Dead or are you planning something tomorrow? And what

2098
01:35:03,812 --> 01:35:06,173
Speaker 3: was some of the greatest April Falls Day.

2099
01:35:06,093 --> 01:35:09,173
Speaker 2: Pranks of all time? It is twenty eight pastory. Is

2100
01:35:09,333 --> 01:35:13,333
Speaker 2: the world just so foolish now with deep fakes and

2101
01:35:14,213 --> 01:35:17,692
Speaker 2: AI that you're just questioning everything? So people are just

2102
01:35:18,133 --> 01:35:21,932
Speaker 2: online questioning everything all the time, and as a result,

2103
01:35:21,973 --> 01:35:23,652
Speaker 2: April Fool's Day doesn't work like it used to.

2104
01:35:23,812 --> 01:35:25,412
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell us what you think. Go on hundred and

2105
01:35:25,412 --> 01:35:26,612
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighties at number.

2106
01:35:27,812 --> 01:35:31,932
Speaker 16: Used talk said b headlines with your Ride New Zealand's

2107
01:35:32,013 --> 01:35:36,052
Speaker 16: number one taxi app. Download your Ride today. The Supreme

2108
01:35:36,133 --> 01:35:40,013
Speaker 16: Courts quashed the double murder convictions of David Tomahetti, who

2109
01:35:40,133 --> 01:35:42,612
Speaker 16: was found guilty of killing two Swedish tourists in the

2110
01:35:42,732 --> 01:35:46,892
Speaker 16: eighties and imprisoned for almost twenty years. Firefighters have been

2111
01:35:46,933 --> 01:35:49,772
Speaker 16: battling a well involved blaze at a single story home

2112
01:35:49,853 --> 01:35:52,492
Speaker 16: in South Auckland's Papa Toy Toy, which broke out at

2113
01:35:52,532 --> 01:35:56,333
Speaker 16: one pm. The last four polytechs within the New Zealand

2114
01:35:56,412 --> 01:36:00,253
Speaker 16: Institute of Skills and Technology are returning to being standalone

2115
01:36:00,333 --> 01:36:04,132
Speaker 16: next year, following ten others. Nor Tech, the Western Institute

2116
01:36:04,173 --> 01:36:08,692
Speaker 16: of Technology at Taranaki and Fedateeya plus well Tech become

2117
01:36:08,772 --> 01:36:14,293
Speaker 16: regional polytechnics from January and tay Potini transfer to open Polytechnic.

2118
01:36:15,173 --> 01:36:18,772
Speaker 16: The Firefighters Union claims wages are being unlawfully deducted for

2119
01:36:18,893 --> 01:36:23,133
Speaker 16: future strikes, with pay slips to April first, including deductions

2120
01:36:23,173 --> 01:36:27,532
Speaker 16: for actions not yet held. Act says Tottenham Hotspur and

2121
01:36:27,612 --> 01:36:30,973
Speaker 16: Auckland FC are not charities with billionaire owners and the

2122
01:36:31,053 --> 01:36:34,732
Speaker 16: parties questioning government spending on a clash between the Premier

2123
01:36:34,853 --> 01:36:37,972
Speaker 16: League side and the A League outfit at Auckland's Eden Park.

2124
01:36:38,652 --> 01:36:42,372
Speaker 16: Plus what is biss Slam's soaring manufacturing costs for factory closures?

2125
01:36:42,692 --> 01:36:45,372
Speaker 16: Read more at enz at Herald Premium. Now back to

2126
01:36:45,452 --> 01:36:46,092
Speaker 16: mattin Tyler.

2127
01:36:46,253 --> 01:36:49,013
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy. It is twenty eight to four.

2128
01:36:49,053 --> 01:36:52,012
Speaker 3: We're talking about April falls pranks. It is April first tomorrow.

2129
01:36:52,133 --> 01:36:53,973
Speaker 3: Is it still a thing alight? One hundred eighty ten

2130
01:36:54,013 --> 01:36:55,812
Speaker 3: eighty to number. To call nine two nine two is to.

2131
01:36:55,853 --> 01:36:59,292
Speaker 2: Text hi, guys. April Fols is going by the wayside

2132
01:36:59,293 --> 01:37:01,612
Speaker 2: As it's almost illegal now to hurt someone's feelings by

2133
01:37:01,692 --> 01:37:03,972
Speaker 2: tricking them and laving them a full I might still

2134
01:37:04,093 --> 01:37:06,253
Speaker 2: fill the house with my fog machine at five am

2135
01:37:06,412 --> 01:37:08,692
Speaker 2: and evacuate the family in the other east the front

2136
01:37:08,732 --> 01:37:11,173
Speaker 2: lawn for a giggle until the wife bans me for

2137
01:37:11,492 --> 01:37:13,053
Speaker 2: a month for doing such a thing.

2138
01:37:13,253 --> 01:37:15,452
Speaker 4: Cheers Treeff, Well played, Trev through it.

2139
01:37:15,933 --> 01:37:19,372
Speaker 2: Do it, absolutely, do it, Trev, keep those ticks coming through.

2140
01:37:19,612 --> 01:37:21,973
Speaker 2: The ODT had a photo on the front page of

2141
01:37:22,053 --> 01:37:25,213
Speaker 2: a track on a plower working up Carrisbrout before an

2142
01:37:25,213 --> 01:37:27,012
Speaker 2: All Black tests. Can't remember what year it was. Cheers

2143
01:37:27,053 --> 01:37:28,013
Speaker 2: to see. That's a good one.

2144
01:37:28,173 --> 01:37:28,932
Speaker 4: That is a good one.

2145
01:37:29,253 --> 01:37:31,293
Speaker 2: But now I don't think. I don't think the herold

2146
01:37:31,333 --> 01:37:36,492
Speaker 2: would run a wouldn't like a big newspaper wouldn't run there,

2147
01:37:36,492 --> 01:37:38,772
Speaker 2: would they? Now they wouldn't. They wouldn't. They wouldn't do

2148
01:37:39,013 --> 01:37:41,293
Speaker 2: It'd be too risky for them. Yeah, because people are

2149
01:37:41,372 --> 01:37:42,652
Speaker 2: so precious.

2150
01:37:42,692 --> 01:37:42,852
Speaker 8: Now.

2151
01:37:43,213 --> 01:37:45,412
Speaker 3: Well, the one that I mentioned earlier, this sour and

2152
01:37:45,452 --> 01:37:47,093
Speaker 3: I never got to so it was in the local

2153
01:37:47,133 --> 01:37:49,293
Speaker 3: paper in Nelson and Nelson's got Fisher Rock.

2154
01:37:49,372 --> 01:37:50,612
Speaker 4: It's a very esteemed rock.

2155
01:37:50,692 --> 01:37:52,612
Speaker 3: You can see it right there in the harbor, and

2156
01:37:52,692 --> 01:37:55,812
Speaker 3: the local paper printed an image of the rock having

2157
01:37:55,853 --> 01:37:56,812
Speaker 3: collapsed overnight.

2158
01:37:57,213 --> 01:38:00,053
Speaker 2: And it was pretty innocuous, not really that harmful. But

2159
01:38:00,253 --> 01:38:02,293
Speaker 2: now Sonian's flipped out about it.

2160
01:38:02,412 --> 01:38:04,612
Speaker 3: Everybody thought it was real and they got a hell

2161
01:38:04,652 --> 01:38:05,973
Speaker 3: of a lot of hate mail, and I think that

2162
01:38:06,093 --> 01:38:08,492
Speaker 3: was the last one they ever did, So I think

2163
01:38:08,532 --> 01:38:09,532
Speaker 3: you're right, Jim.

2164
01:38:09,652 --> 01:38:11,612
Speaker 2: So it's what kind of person gets fulled and then

2165
01:38:11,652 --> 01:38:14,772
Speaker 2: gets angry because they've been fooled. I mean, you're the fault.

2166
01:38:14,973 --> 01:38:17,612
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all part of the day, Jim. How are you?

2167
01:38:18,933 --> 01:38:21,572
Speaker 30: Yeah, good day, Matt and Tyler. I'm really great to

2168
01:38:21,612 --> 01:38:23,692
Speaker 30: be on the show. I listened every afternoon on the

2169
01:38:23,732 --> 01:38:24,133
Speaker 30: way home.

2170
01:38:26,293 --> 01:38:26,492
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2171
01:38:27,173 --> 01:38:30,253
Speaker 30: The bit about the States Brewery just like to add

2172
01:38:30,253 --> 01:38:32,013
Speaker 30: to weave to that story, and it was actually the

2173
01:38:32,133 --> 01:38:36,532
Speaker 30: Odt's foult right. If you know the brewery. One of

2174
01:38:36,572 --> 01:38:38,973
Speaker 30: the reasons that's where it is is that's got the

2175
01:38:39,452 --> 01:38:42,133
Speaker 30: credible wells that go way down deep into the ground

2176
01:38:42,173 --> 01:38:45,412
Speaker 30: and the most purest water, and there is that there's

2177
01:38:45,452 --> 01:38:47,452
Speaker 30: a place outside you push the old button and get

2178
01:38:47,492 --> 01:38:49,812
Speaker 30: your water supply. You know, people going up all the

2179
01:38:49,893 --> 01:38:53,572
Speaker 30: time to get this beautiful pure water cars and people

2180
01:38:53,612 --> 01:38:56,732
Speaker 30: apart outside. So on that occasion, on the thirty first

2181
01:38:56,812 --> 01:39:00,452
Speaker 30: of March, the ODT got a story in the paper

2182
01:39:00,572 --> 01:39:03,293
Speaker 30: that just to let everybody know, they were cleaning out

2183
01:39:03,372 --> 01:39:07,173
Speaker 30: the pipes in the brewery and they apologize for the

2184
01:39:07,293 --> 01:39:10,173
Speaker 30: fact that there could be slight taste of beer in

2185
01:39:10,333 --> 01:39:13,532
Speaker 30: that water, and that is what caused everyone to go there.

2186
01:39:14,812 --> 01:39:16,452
Speaker 30: You know, there was one guy that had an old

2187
01:39:16,532 --> 01:39:21,133
Speaker 30: milk tanker trailer thing in his back pett Milton or

2188
01:39:21,213 --> 01:39:24,093
Speaker 30: miles away. He hooked it up illegally and drove all

2189
01:39:24,133 --> 01:39:29,333
Speaker 30: the way for miles. It was just ridlock everywhere. Were

2190
01:39:29,412 --> 01:39:33,452
Speaker 30: absolutely really popular with the police. And so the next

2191
01:39:33,532 --> 01:39:36,693
Speaker 30: day the O d T had to put an apologies

2192
01:39:36,772 --> 01:39:38,892
Speaker 30: in for that that it was all a big hopes

2193
01:39:39,612 --> 01:39:41,372
Speaker 30: but for Clock and Duneda and it.

2194
01:39:41,452 --> 01:39:42,412
Speaker 15: Was you just couldn't move.

2195
01:39:43,853 --> 01:39:46,333
Speaker 2: Is that is that the problem though, that people start

2196
01:39:46,372 --> 01:39:48,053
Speaker 2: apologizing for it. So if you're the O d T

2197
01:39:48,213 --> 01:39:49,932
Speaker 2: and you've done that, then don't you just go Yeah,

2198
01:39:49,973 --> 01:39:51,772
Speaker 2: that was successful. He made a jokes and people fell

2199
01:39:51,853 --> 01:39:54,572
Speaker 2: for it. There April Fills, Yeah, job it's fun.

2200
01:39:54,732 --> 01:39:54,972
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2201
01:39:55,853 --> 01:39:57,652
Speaker 30: I think it was part you mentioned, the one about

2202
01:39:57,692 --> 01:39:59,293
Speaker 30: the trader. I think it was one that they did

2203
01:39:59,372 --> 01:40:03,133
Speaker 30: every year, but they didn't really and it really was

2204
01:40:03,253 --> 01:40:03,932
Speaker 30: over the top.

2205
01:40:04,213 --> 01:40:06,492
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, caused huge problem.

2206
01:40:06,772 --> 01:40:06,972
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2207
01:40:07,692 --> 01:40:09,972
Speaker 2: I mean that that that's quite a gridlockable area, isn't

2208
01:40:10,013 --> 01:40:11,692
Speaker 2: it around Rattray Street, That wasn't it. I mean that

2209
01:40:11,772 --> 01:40:13,933
Speaker 2: you've got some pretty narrow roads up there, coming up

2210
01:40:13,973 --> 01:40:17,293
Speaker 2: past the current Crown Hotel, that that whole area could

2211
01:40:17,293 --> 01:40:18,892
Speaker 2: be could be gridlocked pretty easily.

2212
01:40:20,053 --> 01:40:20,253
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2213
01:40:20,772 --> 01:40:25,532
Speaker 30: I think you finished him coming from quite Wonka, but

2214
01:40:25,612 --> 01:40:27,013
Speaker 30: certainly for long distances.

2215
01:40:27,293 --> 01:40:29,692
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, actually believe that.

2216
01:40:30,093 --> 01:40:34,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they see they're idiots. No sympathy for idiots,

2217
01:40:34,053 --> 01:40:37,213
Speaker 2: but I guess it's the non idiots that didn't. And

2218
01:40:37,253 --> 01:40:38,932
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with be an idiot. There's nothing wrong

2219
01:40:38,933 --> 01:40:40,692
Speaker 2: with being fooled actually, to be fair, Yeah, but I

2220
01:40:40,772 --> 01:40:43,612
Speaker 2: guess in that case if you I mean, look, I'm

2221
01:40:43,652 --> 01:40:45,932
Speaker 2: from Dunedin though gridlock and Dunedin's a bit different from

2222
01:40:45,933 --> 01:40:47,293
Speaker 2: goodlock in Auckland or Wellington.

2223
01:40:47,452 --> 01:40:48,173
Speaker 4: Yeah very much.

2224
01:40:48,253 --> 01:40:51,253
Speaker 3: As thank you very much Jim for your call one

2225
01:40:51,333 --> 01:40:53,732
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty eighty keen to hear your April full

2226
01:40:53,853 --> 01:40:54,772
Speaker 3: story get a bill.

2227
01:40:55,853 --> 01:40:56,532
Speaker 7: There you going, Bill.

2228
01:40:56,692 --> 01:40:58,372
Speaker 29: You just made me think of something I'm going to

2229
01:40:58,372 --> 01:41:00,852
Speaker 29: be quickly is when we used to glue money to

2230
01:41:00,973 --> 01:41:04,372
Speaker 29: the footpath. Amazed how many people used.

2231
01:41:04,213 --> 01:41:05,173
Speaker 7: To get angry about it.

2232
01:41:05,333 --> 01:41:11,492
Speaker 29: Yep, anyway, nothing in the seventies, you know, you talk

2233
01:41:11,772 --> 01:41:17,012
Speaker 29: morning talk show Darren Hint actually find New Zealander decided

2234
01:41:17,053 --> 01:41:21,053
Speaker 29: because Victoria was going broke, they were going to bring

2235
01:41:21,133 --> 01:41:25,892
Speaker 29: an emergency daylight saving, which.

2236
01:41:26,053 --> 01:41:27,293
Speaker 15: You know we used to driving work.

2237
01:41:27,333 --> 01:41:29,213
Speaker 7: We didn't think much of it, didn't even think it was.

2238
01:41:29,812 --> 01:41:31,933
Speaker 10: But it was sort of sad in a way, and

2239
01:41:32,053 --> 01:41:33,093
Speaker 10: that because.

2240
01:41:34,412 --> 01:41:37,612
Speaker 29: So many people rang up during that morning show and

2241
01:41:37,772 --> 01:41:40,013
Speaker 29: abused him because what they've done is they believe what

2242
01:41:40,133 --> 01:41:43,212
Speaker 29: he was saying, and that canceled appointments for the hospital

2243
01:41:43,293 --> 01:41:47,372
Speaker 29: on their head. It was sort of funny, but it

2244
01:41:47,612 --> 01:41:51,412
Speaker 29: kind of sort of wasn't as well, because yeah, have

2245
01:41:51,492 --> 01:41:53,173
Speaker 29: you hear on the news. It's sort of hard not

2246
01:41:53,293 --> 01:41:54,053
Speaker 29: to believe, isn't it.

2247
01:41:54,532 --> 01:41:59,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was there as a line, because yeah,

2248
01:41:59,612 --> 01:42:01,372
Speaker 2: it's hard to know exactly what the line is. It

2249
01:42:01,452 --> 01:42:03,013
Speaker 2: has to be a bit more ridiculous than that.

2250
01:42:03,372 --> 01:42:06,692
Speaker 29: Yeah, you know, well, talking about someone that's been married

2251
01:42:06,692 --> 01:42:07,892
Speaker 29: about twenty seven times.

2252
01:42:09,812 --> 01:42:11,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.

2253
01:42:11,013 --> 01:42:13,692
Speaker 3: Mean if it makes people change what they're gonna do

2254
01:42:13,812 --> 01:42:16,133
Speaker 3: on the daily, you know, like as you said, they

2255
01:42:16,253 --> 01:42:19,013
Speaker 3: changed their hospital appointments, I mean, does that go too far?

2256
01:42:19,253 --> 01:42:20,652
Speaker 4: I imagine Darren Hinch loved it.

2257
01:42:21,652 --> 01:42:24,412
Speaker 29: We probably did, but imagin on the news side and

2258
01:42:24,492 --> 01:42:26,532
Speaker 29: on the news for you guys, is you said, oh,

2259
01:42:26,692 --> 01:42:27,772
Speaker 29: the sky is falling.

2260
01:42:28,933 --> 01:42:29,133
Speaker 23: Yeah.

2261
01:42:29,293 --> 01:42:31,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's ridiculous enough that that people well, you know, no,

2262
01:42:32,013 --> 01:42:32,532
Speaker 4: it's a bit of a.

2263
01:42:32,732 --> 01:42:35,173
Speaker 2: We actually do variations of that constantly. Every time I

2264
01:42:35,213 --> 01:42:37,253
Speaker 2: turn on the news, there's some variation of the sky's fall.

2265
01:42:37,412 --> 01:42:39,852
Speaker 3: A lot of chicken licking situation. It's like this one

2266
01:42:39,893 --> 01:42:41,892
Speaker 3: that I missed last year actually just on that point.

2267
01:42:42,093 --> 01:42:44,572
Speaker 3: So this was by the Mulbra District Council. So they

2268
01:42:44,973 --> 01:42:47,612
Speaker 3: put up a post saying Blenham was set to welcome

2269
01:42:47,652 --> 01:42:50,412
Speaker 3: a laser dome covering more than three hundred thousand hectares

2270
01:42:50,412 --> 01:42:53,852
Speaker 3: of Malborough's vineyards to protect them from seagulls. Again, perfect,

2271
01:42:53,973 --> 01:42:56,692
Speaker 3: that's ridiculous enough that people would think, hey, maybe that's

2272
01:42:56,692 --> 01:42:59,692
Speaker 3: April falls and that doesn't affect anyone's day to day.

2273
01:42:59,933 --> 01:43:03,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, you you you have to feel silly that you

2274
01:43:03,173 --> 01:43:05,173
Speaker 2: believe it and go I can't believe I believe that.

2275
01:43:05,372 --> 01:43:07,532
Speaker 2: Of course it was ridiculous. Yes, and that's the perfect

2276
01:43:07,572 --> 01:43:10,293
Speaker 2: line for an April Day. Yeah, it's a fine balance though,

2277
01:43:10,772 --> 01:43:13,213
Speaker 2: So what about if you change all the because a

2278
01:43:13,253 --> 01:43:15,532
Speaker 2: bunch of people are saying that they change all the

2279
01:43:16,093 --> 01:43:19,852
Speaker 2: labels on the cans in the cupboard? So is that

2280
01:43:20,412 --> 01:43:22,173
Speaker 2: I mean? And so is someone an idiot if they

2281
01:43:22,333 --> 01:43:24,732
Speaker 2: go to open baked beans and cream corn comes out?

2282
01:43:24,732 --> 01:43:26,732
Speaker 2: Are they an idiot? Or have they just done something

2283
01:43:26,853 --> 01:43:29,053
Speaker 2: quite normal and got the can and looked at the.

2284
01:43:30,013 --> 01:43:30,772
Speaker 4: Is it clever enough?

2285
01:43:30,893 --> 01:43:32,652
Speaker 2: I don't know if it kind of reaches that upper

2286
01:43:32,732 --> 01:43:36,333
Speaker 2: level of Well, so it has to be. It has

2287
01:43:36,412 --> 01:43:39,653
Speaker 2: to The joke has to play out before midday.

2288
01:43:39,372 --> 01:43:41,492
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, and you kind of got to. You've

2289
01:43:41,492 --> 01:43:43,852
Speaker 3: gotta make people question reality almost Yeah.

2290
01:43:44,293 --> 01:43:46,412
Speaker 2: I mean once I was on the Matt and Jerry

2291
01:43:46,452 --> 01:43:50,093
Speaker 2: Breakfast show on Radio Headache and Jeremy said the time

2292
01:43:50,133 --> 01:43:53,372
Speaker 2: wrong accidentally, and then he said and then he said

2293
01:43:53,412 --> 01:43:56,772
Speaker 2: it was an April fool's gag, just to save face. Yeah,

2294
01:43:57,372 --> 01:44:00,333
Speaker 2: And then we got really angry because they said that

2295
01:44:00,853 --> 01:44:04,372
Speaker 2: it was that Bud missed things and that they were

2296
01:44:04,492 --> 01:44:07,012
Speaker 2: late for work because he had done this April fool's gag,

2297
01:44:07,572 --> 01:44:09,852
Speaker 2: so hes trying to cover up his mistake by saying

2298
01:44:09,853 --> 01:44:11,652
Speaker 2: it was an open fools gag ended up blowing up

2299
01:44:11,692 --> 01:44:12,973
Speaker 2: in his face. He would have been better just to

2300
01:44:12,973 --> 01:44:14,293
Speaker 2: say sorry, I said the time wrong.

2301
01:44:14,412 --> 01:44:16,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's not their time, so don't be late

2302
01:44:16,612 --> 01:44:18,893
Speaker 3: to work. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2303
01:44:19,093 --> 01:44:20,852
Speaker 3: number to call Mary.

2304
01:44:21,053 --> 01:44:21,612
Speaker 4: How are you mate?

2305
01:44:22,452 --> 01:44:27,132
Speaker 11: You know I could show missus Beck in the seventies

2306
01:44:27,213 --> 01:44:30,492
Speaker 11: and the whatever Titan's garrets and Canton that I was

2307
01:44:30,532 --> 01:44:33,692
Speaker 11: still there. But I was there first week is my

2308
01:44:34,692 --> 01:44:37,772
Speaker 11: an apprentice, and I was a bit of a cocky guy. Actually,

2309
01:44:38,093 --> 01:44:41,412
Speaker 11: always prided myself to be on time. That gives the

2310
01:44:41,452 --> 01:44:43,452
Speaker 11: others a bit of a hard time. This is the

2311
01:44:43,572 --> 01:44:47,452
Speaker 11: first week. Most comes at me. He is marry, this

2312
01:44:47,652 --> 01:44:51,692
Speaker 11: is old Mary. I wanted to go down there see

2313
01:44:51,973 --> 01:44:54,812
Speaker 11: Arthur as the engineering shop and have for a long wait.

2314
01:44:56,372 --> 01:45:02,133
Speaker 2: Right so yeah, okay, there's a classic there one yeah

2315
01:45:02,372 --> 01:45:02,772
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

2316
01:45:02,812 --> 01:45:05,932
Speaker 11: And then he says, oh, and don't worry about being

2317
01:45:06,013 --> 01:45:10,053
Speaker 11: late for lunch, so I won't be late. I was

2318
01:45:10,053 --> 01:45:12,772
Speaker 11: sitting there at five to twelve. You let me go,

2319
01:45:13,213 --> 01:45:16,812
Speaker 11: and I walked back like extu half run back and yeah,

2320
01:45:17,452 --> 01:45:19,972
Speaker 11: I just I know it's old fession, but go down

2321
01:45:20,093 --> 01:45:20,772
Speaker 11: and wait for a.

2322
01:45:20,812 --> 01:45:23,492
Speaker 2: Long way for d Yeah, that's clever party that is.

2323
01:45:23,652 --> 01:45:25,612
Speaker 3: That's a classic go down for a long wait that

2324
01:45:25,612 --> 01:45:28,053
Speaker 3: it works because if you fell for that, then you go,

2325
01:45:28,253 --> 01:45:30,492
Speaker 3: oh got me, you got me?

2326
01:45:30,572 --> 01:45:32,892
Speaker 2: Met there? Lying cans don't have paper labels anymore?

2327
01:45:32,933 --> 01:45:33,333
Speaker 23: Is that right?

2328
01:45:33,893 --> 01:45:34,053
Speaker 12: Can?

2329
01:45:34,293 --> 01:45:35,293
Speaker 4: I'm sure some of them do.

2330
01:45:35,692 --> 01:45:38,492
Speaker 2: I was on the television show Taskmaster a few years

2331
01:45:38,492 --> 01:45:41,013
Speaker 2: ago and there was a thing where they replaced all

2332
01:45:41,013 --> 01:45:43,572
Speaker 2: the labels, took more off. So some have can what

2333
01:45:43,812 --> 01:45:45,852
Speaker 2: I'm I can't think of a can that I've been

2334
01:45:46,213 --> 01:45:49,093
Speaker 2: mostly paper labels. Oh, hang on a minute, now, is

2335
01:45:49,133 --> 01:45:52,812
Speaker 2: this person this person has done in or an early

2336
01:45:53,133 --> 01:45:55,333
Speaker 2: April Fools joke on me? Well, the fool's on them

2337
01:45:55,333 --> 01:45:57,053
Speaker 2: because it's not April the first. You can't do it

2338
01:45:57,133 --> 01:46:00,372
Speaker 2: on March the thirty first, but you can make an

2339
01:46:00,372 --> 01:46:03,093
Speaker 2: idiot out me any day. Yeah, it doesn't have to

2340
01:46:03,133 --> 01:46:04,213
Speaker 2: be April Fools for me.

2341
01:46:04,213 --> 01:46:04,812
Speaker 12: To do that.

2342
01:46:05,492 --> 01:46:07,412
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the NUMBERY

2343
01:46:07,412 --> 01:46:10,052
Speaker 3: call nineteen nine to want to send a text April

2344
01:46:10,093 --> 01:46:10,652
Speaker 3: Fool's Day?

2345
01:46:11,333 --> 01:46:12,612
Speaker 4: Is Is it over?

2346
01:46:12,853 --> 01:46:15,572
Speaker 3: Are we too sensitive now? Or are you planning something tomorrow?

2347
01:46:15,732 --> 01:46:19,013
Speaker 3: It is nineteen to four, the issues.

2348
01:46:18,652 --> 01:46:21,093
Speaker 1: That affect you and a bit of fun along the way.

2349
01:46:21,333 --> 01:46:25,492
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with Skoda plays Scoda codes every

2350
01:46:25,572 --> 01:46:28,412
Speaker 1: day at skoter dot co dot NZA news Talk.

2351
01:46:28,492 --> 01:46:30,133
Speaker 4: Sa'd be sixteen to four.

2352
01:46:30,173 --> 01:46:33,092
Speaker 3: We're talking about April Fools tomorrow. It is April the first?

2353
01:46:33,372 --> 01:46:34,372
Speaker 2: Is it still a thing?

2354
01:46:34,452 --> 01:46:36,532
Speaker 4: And brands and people still get away with it?

2355
01:46:37,093 --> 01:46:37,973
Speaker 23: And what for you?

2356
01:46:38,293 --> 01:46:40,532
Speaker 2: Was the best April Fools prank you ever saw?

2357
01:46:40,612 --> 01:46:40,732
Speaker 11: Oh?

2358
01:46:40,772 --> 01:46:42,612
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

2359
01:46:42,692 --> 01:46:45,412
Speaker 3: call great text here yaday, guys. Once went round to

2360
01:46:45,452 --> 01:46:47,532
Speaker 3: my friend's house and her older sister was in bits.

2361
01:46:47,612 --> 01:46:50,333
Speaker 3: She had snapped her flip phone clean in half and everything.

2362
01:46:50,812 --> 01:46:53,093
Speaker 3: My mate told me she had called her boyfriend and

2363
01:46:53,253 --> 01:46:55,612
Speaker 3: broken up with him as an April Fool's joke, but

2364
01:46:55,652 --> 01:46:57,652
Speaker 3: at backfire because he broke up with her for real

2365
01:46:57,973 --> 01:47:03,572
Speaker 3: on the spot. I still can't help it laugh. I mean, idiot,

2366
01:47:04,173 --> 01:47:06,412
Speaker 3: that's not an April Fool's joke. And you know kind

2367
01:47:06,452 --> 01:47:07,972
Speaker 3: of you to come up it's there.

2368
01:47:08,013 --> 01:47:09,333
Speaker 2: I mean, if you woke up in the morning and

2369
01:47:09,452 --> 01:47:11,812
Speaker 2: lean over to your partner and say I think we

2370
01:47:11,893 --> 01:47:14,053
Speaker 2: should get a divorce. I'm not in love with you

2371
01:47:14,133 --> 01:47:17,732
Speaker 2: anymore and I've met someone else, and then they start crying.

2372
01:47:17,853 --> 01:47:20,532
Speaker 2: Is the well, I'm not a good one. Not an

2373
01:47:20,532 --> 01:47:24,612
Speaker 2: air point, Kevin, How are you gooday?

2374
01:47:24,732 --> 01:47:25,052
Speaker 6: Guys?

2375
01:47:25,213 --> 01:47:31,173
Speaker 8: Well, bloody brilliant choke. Sorry about swearing. Many years ago,

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01:47:31,253 --> 01:47:33,213
Speaker 8: when I was a young fellow working on the west

2377
01:47:33,253 --> 01:47:36,973
Speaker 8: coast of the South Island and the native timber, we

2378
01:47:37,133 --> 01:47:40,732
Speaker 8: had an old cross cutter and he was a bit

2379
01:47:40,772 --> 01:47:43,253
Speaker 8: of a grumpy all fellow to me, and because I

2380
01:47:43,372 --> 01:47:46,852
Speaker 8: was young, and as they do, they sort of pick

2381
01:47:46,933 --> 01:47:50,612
Speaker 8: on the young force. But anyway, there was a morning smiko.

2382
01:47:50,772 --> 01:47:53,213
Speaker 8: He wanted to go out for a dump. So I'll

2383
01:47:53,732 --> 01:47:55,892
Speaker 8: watch him pick up the toilet roll and I'll follow

2384
01:47:55,973 --> 01:47:59,092
Speaker 8: them up. Sequel if you eyed him with a shovel

2385
01:47:59,412 --> 01:48:03,293
Speaker 8: in the hands and followed them and totally got in

2386
01:48:03,412 --> 01:48:05,972
Speaker 8: the bushes and put the shovel underneath where he had

2387
01:48:06,013 --> 01:48:10,253
Speaker 8: he's dune, and then he had he stump and he

2388
01:48:10,612 --> 01:48:13,772
Speaker 8: did what he is business, and then he stood up

2389
01:48:13,772 --> 01:48:15,572
Speaker 8: to have a lot of reproduct, and I pulled the

2390
01:48:15,652 --> 01:48:18,532
Speaker 8: shovel back and he couldn't find it. Well, you should

2391
01:48:18,532 --> 01:48:20,772
Speaker 8: have seen him. He had wet boots on and everything,

2392
01:48:21,013 --> 01:48:23,452
Speaker 8: and he was wrapping them off trying to find his dump.

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01:48:23,532 --> 01:48:24,333
Speaker 11: That head dropped.

2394
01:48:25,053 --> 01:48:27,572
Speaker 8: But that was on hate all the first So I

2395
01:48:27,732 --> 01:48:28,173
Speaker 8: got home.

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01:48:29,013 --> 01:48:32,492
Speaker 2: He certainly did get him givin. Did he forgive you

2397
01:48:32,532 --> 01:48:32,852
Speaker 2: after that?

2398
01:48:33,973 --> 01:48:34,013
Speaker 23: No?

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01:48:34,772 --> 01:48:37,732
Speaker 8: I wasn't allowed to touch his chains for ever. Again.

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01:48:38,772 --> 01:48:42,012
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised, mate. Thank you very much for your call. Andy.

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01:48:42,053 --> 01:48:42,333
Speaker 6: How are you?

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01:48:43,293 --> 01:48:44,652
Speaker 23: I'm not too bid? How yourself?

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01:48:44,853 --> 01:48:45,053
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:48:45,133 --> 01:48:48,213
Speaker 23: Good, it's good. This is a great show, by the way,

2405
01:48:48,372 --> 01:48:48,652
Speaker 23: thank you.

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01:48:49,572 --> 01:48:50,053
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah.

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01:48:50,133 --> 01:48:52,412
Speaker 23: I just thought I let you know when when I

2408
01:48:52,492 --> 01:48:55,093
Speaker 23: was a wee fellow, and I was about five or six,

2409
01:48:55,133 --> 01:48:57,932
Speaker 23: we all went camping in the holidays that they had

2410
01:48:58,013 --> 01:49:00,133
Speaker 23: back in those days, and we're down in Perk and

2411
01:49:00,293 --> 01:49:02,692
Speaker 23: we bade down in the Catlin's there, and I don't

2412
01:49:02,692 --> 01:49:05,293
Speaker 23: know about forty fifty different families all they're all camping together,

2413
01:49:05,333 --> 01:49:07,772
Speaker 23: and you know, we didn't know most of them anyways.

2414
01:49:08,492 --> 01:49:10,852
Speaker 23: How about five six o'clock in the morning, the skuy

2415
01:49:10,973 --> 01:49:12,892
Speaker 23: comes around and that it was staying with, and he's like, oh,

2416
01:49:12,933 --> 01:49:14,852
Speaker 23: there's a whales trained on the beach. There's a whales

2417
01:49:14,893 --> 01:49:17,452
Speaker 23: trained on the beach. And he went round and woke

2418
01:49:17,572 --> 01:49:20,173
Speaker 23: everybody up, and then you know, everyone went wandered on

2419
01:49:20,293 --> 01:49:21,852
Speaker 23: down to the beach and we all got down to

2420
01:49:21,893 --> 01:49:23,692
Speaker 23: the beach and he'd got up about an hour earlier

2421
01:49:23,732 --> 01:49:26,492
Speaker 23: and drawn this joenormous big whale on the beach with

2422
01:49:26,612 --> 01:49:29,333
Speaker 23: a stick and the stand and everybody that was all camping.

2423
01:49:29,532 --> 01:49:31,333
Speaker 23: He came down and you were like, you know, looking

2424
01:49:31,372 --> 01:49:33,612
Speaker 23: for this wale here. It was just drawn into the

2425
01:49:33,692 --> 01:49:35,772
Speaker 23: stand and you're like laughing as he offered, you know,

2426
01:49:35,772 --> 01:49:37,093
Speaker 23: because he woke and everybody up.

2427
01:49:37,412 --> 01:49:38,372
Speaker 7: It was quite a good laugh.

2428
01:49:38,452 --> 01:49:41,372
Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, that's not bad from him. It's pretty good.

2429
01:49:42,133 --> 01:49:42,333
Speaker 7: Eddy.

2430
01:49:42,492 --> 01:49:47,532
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, mate, Dennis. How are you hi?

2431
01:49:47,572 --> 01:49:47,852
Speaker 8: You going?

2432
01:49:48,853 --> 01:49:52,053
Speaker 22: It's a great, great program, Thank you.

2433
01:49:52,253 --> 01:49:52,412
Speaker 6: Yes.

2434
01:49:52,572 --> 01:49:57,652
Speaker 22: So you may recall twenty years plus ago President Clinton

2435
01:49:58,053 --> 01:49:59,853
Speaker 22: was involved with Monica Lewinsky.

2436
01:50:00,053 --> 01:50:02,972
Speaker 2: I do remember that, yeah, vividly, the blue dress. Who

2437
01:50:02,973 --> 01:50:03,492
Speaker 2: could forget?

2438
01:50:03,772 --> 01:50:07,133
Speaker 22: Yeah, that's right. And of course the Republicans were really

2439
01:50:07,173 --> 01:50:10,772
Speaker 22: getting stuck into him. So what I did, because I

2440
01:50:11,812 --> 01:50:14,852
Speaker 22: had the job of bringing the newspaper to work each day.

2441
01:50:14,893 --> 01:50:18,732
Speaker 22: It was a professional office, so it was usually wrapped

2442
01:50:18,812 --> 01:50:21,692
Speaker 22: up in plastic. So what I did is I just

2443
01:50:22,053 --> 01:50:25,253
Speaker 22: bought another newspaper and handed that and everybody read it

2444
01:50:25,333 --> 01:50:28,093
Speaker 22: on the day, but I kept the one that was

2445
01:50:28,173 --> 01:50:31,293
Speaker 22: delivered at home wrapped up in plastic. I kept it

2446
01:50:31,372 --> 01:50:33,852
Speaker 22: in the dark room for a whole year so that

2447
01:50:33,973 --> 01:50:37,572
Speaker 22: it didn't go yellow. And then the next year I

2448
01:50:37,692 --> 01:50:41,293
Speaker 22: bought it in and put it down on the table

2449
01:50:41,933 --> 01:50:46,173
Speaker 22: in the lunch room. And of course I get this

2450
01:50:46,452 --> 01:50:48,732
Speaker 22: to get one of the chaps rushing out saying, hey,

2451
01:50:49,692 --> 01:50:52,093
Speaker 22: Clinton's just got involved with that Lewinsky woman.

2452
01:50:52,173 --> 01:50:52,452
Speaker 7: Again.

2453
01:50:52,853 --> 01:50:56,572
Speaker 22: My god, this is going to be really really good news.

2454
01:50:57,213 --> 01:51:00,213
Speaker 22: And of course everybody was rushing around thinking, my god,

2455
01:51:00,293 --> 01:51:04,133
Speaker 22: what's going on here? But anyway, long story short, left

2456
01:51:04,173 --> 01:51:07,772
Speaker 22: it and the next morning they all came in and said,

2457
01:51:07,772 --> 01:51:09,412
Speaker 22: oh gosh, you really got us, didn't you.

2458
01:51:10,412 --> 01:51:12,772
Speaker 3: Well played, Denner. See that's the long game. So it's

2459
01:51:12,812 --> 01:51:15,093
Speaker 3: clever to hold that for a whole year. I mean,

2460
01:51:15,133 --> 01:51:17,253
Speaker 3: you thought that through and you put on the work.

2461
01:51:17,732 --> 01:51:18,293
Speaker 4: Well played.

2462
01:51:18,452 --> 01:51:21,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, well played. That's good. That's a good brand, that's perfect. Perfect.

2463
01:51:21,973 --> 01:51:25,892
Speaker 3: April Falls one, Phil, how are you this afternoon?

2464
01:51:25,973 --> 01:51:27,492
Speaker 27: Get I made good?

2465
01:51:27,572 --> 01:51:27,812
Speaker 23: Thank you?

2466
01:51:29,333 --> 01:51:32,213
Speaker 27: Probably one of the best April Falls was one of

2467
01:51:32,293 --> 01:51:36,213
Speaker 27: your people, Lindsay Yo, and he used to have the

2468
01:51:36,732 --> 01:51:41,292
Speaker 27: breakfast show in Wellington. Yes, and you know barz obumb

2469
01:51:41,452 --> 01:51:44,293
Speaker 27: or bars and it was everybody listened to it, and

2470
01:51:44,853 --> 01:51:47,253
Speaker 27: he had all the stage show called Wally Wetter and

2471
01:51:47,333 --> 01:51:50,812
Speaker 27: everything like that. He was a real comedian. But anyway,

2472
01:51:51,532 --> 01:51:54,612
Speaker 27: about seven point thirty on the morning of April or Falls,

2473
01:51:54,652 --> 01:51:57,333
Speaker 27: he said, look, we've got some important news coming through.

2474
01:51:57,452 --> 01:51:58,692
Speaker 27: He said, we're going to have to lay out a

2475
01:51:58,772 --> 01:52:02,892
Speaker 27: bit and he interviewed this American guy and the American

2476
01:52:02,973 --> 01:52:05,973
Speaker 27: guy was him as well, and he told me it

2477
01:52:06,133 --> 01:52:09,372
Speaker 27: was him, and that the interview was so good. They'd

2478
01:52:09,412 --> 01:52:13,293
Speaker 27: decided they were going to extend Wellington Airport and they

2479
01:52:13,372 --> 01:52:16,812
Speaker 27: had all of the approvals in place, but they were

2480
01:52:16,893 --> 01:52:19,133
Speaker 27: keeping it all top secret, so nobody knew.

2481
01:52:19,812 --> 01:52:20,932
Speaker 7: And I think there were.

2482
01:52:20,893 --> 01:52:23,333
Speaker 27: Greenies in those days. But he said, no, it's all

2483
01:52:23,412 --> 01:52:25,492
Speaker 27: set to go, and interviewed this how are you going

2484
01:52:25,532 --> 01:52:28,012
Speaker 27: to do it? He said, we're going to level Somes Island.

2485
01:52:28,053 --> 01:52:31,652
Speaker 27: They're bringing all of their earth moving machinery and they're

2486
01:52:31,692 --> 01:52:34,053
Speaker 27: going to flatten Sown's Island and push it towards the

2487
01:52:34,133 --> 01:52:39,092
Speaker 27: airport and make an extra long runway. I still remember

2488
01:52:39,133 --> 01:52:40,253
Speaker 27: that it was one of the best.

2489
01:52:41,253 --> 01:52:42,692
Speaker 4: That's very clever from Lindsay.

2490
01:52:42,772 --> 01:52:45,213
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. This one's too far years ago. A

2491
01:52:45,253 --> 01:52:48,172
Speaker 2: friend of mine recorded a lottoed raw, bought the same numbers,

2492
01:52:48,253 --> 01:52:52,572
Speaker 2: and then played it on Saturday. His wife took the

2493
01:52:52,692 --> 01:52:55,412
Speaker 2: numbers off and thought they'd won the first division. She

2494
01:52:55,612 --> 01:52:58,812
Speaker 2: rang friends and told people next day. Then, just before

2495
01:52:58,812 --> 01:53:00,572
Speaker 2: the end of April Folds Day, he let her know

2496
01:53:00,692 --> 01:53:03,053
Speaker 2: that he had played that Joe. She didn't see it

2497
01:53:03,093 --> 01:53:08,452
Speaker 2: as funny. They now divorced. See that's that's too it's

2498
01:53:08,452 --> 01:53:08,932
Speaker 2: too cruel.

2499
01:53:09,812 --> 01:53:10,053
Speaker 1: Let it.

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01:53:10,772 --> 01:53:12,972
Speaker 2: She goes, all our troubles are over. With one million dollars,

2501
01:53:13,013 --> 01:53:15,612
Speaker 2: we find everything's great rings and mum with one million

2502
01:53:15,652 --> 01:53:17,532
Speaker 2: dollars rings with friends. And he goes, oh, no, what

2503
01:53:17,612 --> 01:53:20,133
Speaker 2: I did as a recorded lotto from last week and

2504
01:53:21,013 --> 01:53:23,333
Speaker 2: bought the ticket and ha ha ha ha, we've got

2505
01:53:23,372 --> 01:53:23,812
Speaker 2: no money.

2506
01:53:25,772 --> 01:53:27,892
Speaker 3: When she picked up the phone and she started dialing

2507
01:53:27,973 --> 01:53:30,253
Speaker 3: her mum. At that point you think, right, I'm better

2508
01:53:30,293 --> 01:53:32,253
Speaker 3: shut this down. Yeah, but no, you let her call

2509
01:53:32,293 --> 01:53:35,173
Speaker 3: the whole family, probably her boss, to say, screw you,

2510
01:53:35,293 --> 01:53:36,812
Speaker 3: I'm not coming into work on Monday.

2511
01:53:36,933 --> 01:53:39,652
Speaker 2: I can see why that relationship didn't last. It would

2512
01:53:39,652 --> 01:53:40,692
Speaker 2: be hard to come back from that.

2513
01:53:41,692 --> 01:53:43,452
Speaker 4: Oh that's good stuff, Thank you very much.

2514
01:53:43,572 --> 01:53:46,972
Speaker 3: Keep those teas coming through nine to nine two back

2515
01:53:47,133 --> 01:53:50,652
Speaker 3: very shortly it is eight to four, the big stories.

2516
01:53:50,412 --> 01:53:53,932
Speaker 1: The big issues, the big trends, and everything in between.

2517
01:53:54,173 --> 01:53:57,092
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons, excused talks.

2518
01:53:57,093 --> 01:53:58,652
Speaker 2: He'd be news talks.

2519
01:53:58,692 --> 01:54:01,253
Speaker 3: They'd be a couple of texts to finish up on

2520
01:54:01,532 --> 01:54:05,452
Speaker 3: April Fools. Oh my text machine is just spares that.

2521
01:54:05,532 --> 01:54:07,173
Speaker 3: Here we go, get it, guys, love your show. Fifty

2522
01:54:07,213 --> 01:54:09,093
Speaker 3: plus years ago, we were playing cards with my very

2523
01:54:09,173 --> 01:54:11,293
Speaker 3: pregnant friend and her family. The next day her husband

2524
01:54:11,372 --> 01:54:13,372
Speaker 3: rang to say his wife gave birth to a son.

2525
01:54:13,412 --> 01:54:15,892
Speaker 3: I wouldn't believe him, as it was the first of April,

2526
01:54:16,133 --> 01:54:17,852
Speaker 3: but it turns out it was a true story. That's

2527
01:54:17,933 --> 01:54:22,452
Speaker 3: from Anna. This one is again Virgin on Cruel. Wasn't

2528
01:54:22,492 --> 01:54:25,293
Speaker 3: April Fools. But I had sent Peter Jackson, a model

2529
01:54:25,333 --> 01:54:27,293
Speaker 3: I'd worked on for months, and a work colleague who

2530
01:54:27,293 --> 01:54:29,812
Speaker 3: sounded like Peter called me and left a message inviting

2531
01:54:29,893 --> 01:54:31,532
Speaker 3: me to the premiere of The Lord of the Rings.

2532
01:54:31,532 --> 01:54:34,013
Speaker 3: I cried with excitement. Then when I worked it all out,

2533
01:54:34,053 --> 01:54:34,693
Speaker 3: I cried again.

2534
01:54:34,812 --> 01:54:35,373
Speaker 4: I was gutted.

2535
01:54:35,772 --> 01:54:38,453
Speaker 2: Yeah. See that's I don't think that's a prank, because

2536
01:54:38,533 --> 01:54:40,133
Speaker 2: well it's a prank, but I don't think it's April

2537
01:54:40,133 --> 01:54:42,173
Speaker 2: fools because it's believable because you've sent the thing to

2538
01:54:42,373 --> 01:54:43,893
Speaker 2: Peter Jackson. Yeah, it's just me.

2539
01:54:44,333 --> 01:54:45,173
Speaker 4: That is very mean.

2540
01:54:45,293 --> 01:54:48,972
Speaker 2: It's like you've one mono and heaven. Yeah, one more

2541
01:54:49,213 --> 01:54:50,453
Speaker 2: very quickly, get our guys.

2542
01:54:50,493 --> 01:54:52,293
Speaker 3: I convinced my kids that I'd won a trip to

2543
01:54:52,413 --> 01:54:55,333
Speaker 3: Disneyland for two adults and three kids the genius of

2544
01:54:55,373 --> 01:54:57,213
Speaker 3: the planners that we have four kids from Steve.

2545
01:54:57,333 --> 01:54:59,173
Speaker 2: Oh, that's amazing. So we live in a deep fake,

2546
01:54:59,293 --> 01:55:02,613
Speaker 2: ai lying mainstream media world in which were a constantly

2547
01:55:02,693 --> 01:55:04,653
Speaker 2: trying to work out what the truth is. We spend

2548
01:55:04,693 --> 01:55:07,053
Speaker 2: most of their concern we might be being fooled, and

2549
01:55:07,213 --> 01:55:09,493
Speaker 2: in the fact that workplaces riddle with hr looking to

2550
01:55:09,573 --> 01:55:11,812
Speaker 2: pounce on you. And you can see why April fools

2551
01:55:11,893 --> 01:55:14,293
Speaker 2: Day is facing head ones. But I think if you're clever,

2552
01:55:14,853 --> 01:55:17,293
Speaker 2: if you get the right balance of something believable but

2553
01:55:17,373 --> 01:55:19,892
Speaker 2: also ridiculous, you can still do it. The person has

2554
01:55:19,933 --> 01:55:22,573
Speaker 2: to be found foolish for believing the plank, but also

2555
01:55:22,853 --> 01:55:26,093
Speaker 2: enjoy laughing about it afterwards. So glad wraps stretched over

2556
01:55:26,133 --> 01:55:30,693
Speaker 2: the bowl no, causing Tammicky drive gridlock after announcing an

2557
01:55:30,693 --> 01:55:34,373
Speaker 2: amusing shape Iceberg floating up the white de Matar. Yes, yes,

2558
01:55:34,693 --> 01:55:36,213
Speaker 2: I for one will be telling my son it's muf

2559
01:55:36,293 --> 01:55:41,613
Speaker 2: that day tomorrow when it isn't gold. Yeah, absolute gold.

2560
01:55:41,733 --> 01:55:43,093
Speaker 2: You just got to tell him before it once he

2561
01:55:43,133 --> 01:55:44,933
Speaker 2: gets in the car in his gear. Yeah that No,

2562
01:55:45,013 --> 01:55:45,932
Speaker 2: it's not Muffy day mate.

2563
01:55:45,973 --> 01:55:46,133
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2564
01:55:46,173 --> 01:55:48,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, just let it go just just far enough, yeah

2565
01:55:48,853 --> 01:55:50,972
Speaker 2: for it to be funny today. It's okay, all right, Dan.

2566
01:55:51,093 --> 01:55:52,653
Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of the show. Thank

2567
01:55:52,733 --> 01:55:56,213
Speaker 2: you so much for listening, had a great time. Thank

2568
01:55:56,253 --> 01:55:58,772
Speaker 2: you for all your calls on our eight hundred eighty

2569
01:55:58,853 --> 01:56:01,493
Speaker 2: ten eighty and text on nine two nine two. We'll

2570
01:56:01,533 --> 01:56:05,213
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow live from midday. But right now, Tyler,

2571
01:56:05,213 --> 01:56:07,213
Speaker 2: why am I playing this song? I'm not issue too

2572
01:56:07,253 --> 01:56:12,093
Speaker 2: sure who sings this. It's Cage the Elephant cigarette dangering Ah.

2573
01:56:12,373 --> 01:56:15,052
Speaker 3: Because we had a great chat about some study over

2574
01:56:15,413 --> 01:56:17,333
Speaker 3: in Australia saying vaping's bad for you.

2575
01:56:17,493 --> 01:56:18,453
Speaker 4: I think we all knew that.

2576
01:56:18,653 --> 01:56:21,932
Speaker 2: It's a it's an April fourth stage maybe vaping spine.

2577
01:56:22,053 --> 01:56:23,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, very good.

2578
01:56:24,533 --> 01:56:27,172
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk tomorrow. Give a tasty kewi.

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01:56:30,213 --> 01:56:34,413
Speaker 1: Imadain Tyler Tyler. For more from News Talks at b

2580
01:56:34,733 --> 01:56:37,932
Speaker 1: listen live on air or online and keep our shows

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01:56:37,973 --> 01:56:41,293
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