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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealands, and welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number two O two for the tenth

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Speaker 2: of September twenty twenty five. I think we didn't get

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Speaker 2: to another subject. We keep saying we're gonna do subjects

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Speaker 2: and we don't get to them. The one we didn't

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Speaker 2: get to today was the Apple tech. Are you excited

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Speaker 2: about the new Apple iPhone seventeen or like me, if

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Speaker 2: you've forgotten what number phone you are and your phone

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Speaker 2: seems to be pretty good, so you probably hold on

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Speaker 2: to it for a few more years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a lot of people were feeling

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Speaker 2: Mind's an iPhone thirteen I found out, So I'm four behind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got some ketching up to do.

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Speaker 2: I'm four behind and I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Those EarPods were pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, the Babelfish EarPods. Yeah, so that's freaking cool

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Speaker 2: that they translate. I mean, this isn't the iPhone. I

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Speaker 2: guess they have to be connected to an iPhone. Do

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Speaker 2: you have to have be connected to the iPhone? Seventeen

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Speaker 2: for them to work. So they're the iPods. They have

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Speaker 2: their own chip in them. Yeah. But yeah, So the

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Speaker 2: idea is that it's fantastic. So you're talking to someone

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Speaker 3: Where do you go from there? I mean that is

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Speaker 3: high level tech.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is tech I never thought would exist

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Speaker 2: in my lifetime. It's phenen. Why don't we talk about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we should have talked about that.

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Speaker 2: We've seemed to be way more interested in that than

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Speaker 2: we were everything else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was a great chat about people even

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Speaker 3: score a little bit earlier, and then in a great

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Speaker 3: hour about what it means to be a true New Zealander.

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Speaker 3: Those quintessential things. Really enjoyed that chat.

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Speaker 2: Including someone that got triggered at me and started shaking

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Speaker 2: for me, suggesting that people that don't like either speedway

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Speaker 2: sauce or what is tomato sauce should be deported from

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Speaker 2: the country. I was accused of being Trump like, but

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Speaker 2: I stand by that if you don't like if you

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Speaker 2: don't like the speedway sauce, then get on a plane.

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Speaker 2: I don't care how long you've been here. Get on

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Speaker 2: a plane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm heading down to the airport now. But great show. Download,

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Speaker 2: you listen to the bug.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Said me, very good Afternoons. You welcome into Wednesday show.

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Speaker 3: Really good to have your company as always. Hope you're

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Speaker 3: having a good day. Get I met.

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Speaker 2: Get a, Tyler, get everyone looking forward to the show.

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Speaker 2: Got some good stuff coming up. I saw this thing

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Speaker 2: on social media, and I know I'm always saying get

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Speaker 2: off social media's brain rap, but every now and then

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Speaker 2: I find myself between oh my goodness, between online strands. Now.

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Speaker 2: Ah so speaking of things on phone. Some big fan

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Speaker 2: of the New York Times Games, big fan of Connections

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Speaker 2: and the Mini and I did the Mini in twenty

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Speaker 2: seven seconds the other day the Mini crossword. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: strands is the new thing I'm on.

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Speaker 3: I'll get into Well, no, I'm not not going to

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Speaker 3: the Mini. And now I can't stop. I've gone deep

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but strands is great where you've got a sort

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Speaker 2: it's very it's very good. But that's not what I

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Speaker 2: burned a CD for the last time without even realizing it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that is deep.

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Speaker 2: That is deep, and it's you know, that's sort of

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Speaker 2: a deeper meaning. The one day you do everything for

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Speaker 2: that might only be six more times that you see them.

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Speaker 2: So it's the scarcity of life. It's like the Zen

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Speaker 2: Buddhism concept of the cherry blossom. It's scarcity makes it special.

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Speaker 2: So everything you do one day do for the last time.

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Speaker 2: So take notice to enjoy every part of your life.

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful start to the show. Too early for

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Speaker 3: me to be tearing up a little bit, mate, But

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Speaker 3: the last time I burned a CD good Memories, Good memories.

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Speaker 2: Well, you enjoy your time with your children, or if

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Speaker 2: you keep in mind that one day they'll move out.

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Speaker 2: then you look back when they're moving out and you go, oh,

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Speaker 2: those days, yeah, so so wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful philosophy. Now, just before we get into what's on

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Speaker 3: the show today, police will be holding another briefing into

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Speaker 3: the Tom Phillips investigation. That is, at one thirty we'll

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Speaker 3: be hearing from Detective Senior Sergeant Andrew Saunders, who's leading

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Speaker 3: that investigation and we will bring that to you live,

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Speaker 3: so expecting that at one thirty pm, so stay tuned

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Speaker 3: we get it. Right on to today's show after three clock. Lord,

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Speaker 3: in a wide ranging interview with Day's magazine, has said

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Speaker 3: and said, I know that makes me a bad key.

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Speaker 2: We and you probably thought, you say, this is the

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that after two o'clock, the Apple iPhone

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Speaker 3: the thinnest smartphone ever, and it's new as phones will

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Speaker 2: Care and when did we stop caring? As I say before,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, that is after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about new Ministry of Education data.

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Speaker 3: It shows three hundred and seventy six secondary school students

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Speaker 3: the highest number of approvals since two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 3: Ninety percent of them chose to continue studying outside of school,

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Speaker 3: approved to go into full time employment. But that is

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Speaker 3: So that's what we want to have a chat about

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Speaker 3: leaving school at fifteen sixteen years old. Have you faced

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Speaker 2: Would you be comfortable with it? I don't think I

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Speaker 2: just doctrination that that kind of education is the best

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Speaker 2: Your kids zoned out and isn't interested in getting much

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I like that. What do

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Speaker 3: I want to go into polytech or a trade. I

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Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Nineteen ninety two is the

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Speaker 2: Going back to the philosophical side of things. This text

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Speaker 2: very deep, Matt. You have two deaths, the physical death

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Speaker 2: and then the last time your name is ever mentioned well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, even Elvis Presley is slowly being mentioned less

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Speaker 3: They boosted them up for an another couple of decades.

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Speaker 2: Beslomen movie. Yeah, but yeah, at some point your name

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Speaker 3: It is thirteen past one. How do you feel about

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Speaker 3: more and more fifteen and sixteen year olds leaving school?

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Speaker 3: And what do you think about the idea of making

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Speaker 3: It is thirteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 3: Be It is sixteen past one. So an increasing number

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Speaker 3: the highest number that have left to go into further education,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but is it a good idea? And would you

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Speaker 2: be comfortable with your kids leaving school at fifteen? Daniel,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: How are you doing, guys?

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Speaker 3: Very well? What's your thoughts?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I've been around the sector, the education sector

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Speaker 5: the subject of today and my thought of kids leaving

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Speaker 5: for kids to leave school at fifteen and sixteen to

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Speaker 5: pursue a career or you know, and something because we

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Speaker 5: all know that everybody doesn't want to go to university

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Speaker 5: after high school, you know, not everybody wants to go

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Speaker 5: to social re education. And uh, we've heard this term.

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Speaker 5: We are a product of our of our environment. And

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Speaker 5: a lot of kids that I've seen at firsteen have

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Speaker 5: matured enough because of the environment they come from. Maybe

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Speaker 5: they had to grow up faster and look after their

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Speaker 5: are forced to grow up faster and mature faster. So

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Speaker 5: for having having a well life should be full of challenges,

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Speaker 5: it shouldn't be full of obstacles. And to have this

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Speaker 5: he has enough to go. He tells him, Oh, you

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Speaker 5: have to stay here because the government says you have

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Speaker 5: very mature enough to look after their younger siblings. To

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Speaker 2: Anyone, did you stay at school right till the end,

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Speaker 5: I stayed at school right so you're thirteen because I

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Speaker 5: He just came to school because they have to come

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Speaker 5: just just there, just because the law says you have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I think some people don't, you know.

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Speaker 2: You say some people are ready to start life earlier

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Speaker 2: I think some people. I think even going through university

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Speaker 2: For some people, put off life will be thirty yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I think that that we're at

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Speaker 5: we we should you know, stop stop covering everybody in

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Speaker 5: saying you have to wait till you're seventeen. It's not

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Speaker 5: really fair. I find if it's the legal age for

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Speaker 5: stuff like you know, stuff that can be like judged individually.

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Speaker 5: You know, if the if the parents think that their

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Speaker 5: I don't think there should be an obstacle that stops

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Speaker 5: like is gonna be about? IM gonna be demanded and

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Speaker 3: Very true.

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Speaker 5: Daniel should just be en it just should be judging

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Speaker 5: individual cases because there are some people who probably want

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Speaker 5: just tell him, bro, you like you say it to

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The reason why he's making their money because he doesn't

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Speaker 3: You know exactly, Daniel, nice points and a lot of

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Speaker 3: people would agree with you. I thank you very much

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Speaker 3: for giving us a buzz. Oh eight one hundred and

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Speaker 3: and get a Hea'd love to hear your thoughts. Nineteen

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Speaker 2: Or do you agree with calls to increase the age

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Speaker 3: Twenty one past one putting the.

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Speaker 1: Tough questions to the newspakers. Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 6: Interesting inside into who's leaving school and potentially why. Last

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Speaker 6: year we had thirteen hundred and seventy six fifteen year

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Speaker 6: seem to continue when studying places like polytechs now Any England.

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Speaker 2: Is the Dunfield High School principle.

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Speaker 7: Statistically, if the longer students stays in school are best

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Speaker 7: not every student fits that mole. So school has been

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Speaker 7: working really hard on working in with polytakes. The Ministry

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Speaker 7: runs a uesgm T program and it's a really good program.

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Speaker 7: Students can spend one or two days a week in

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Speaker 6: Back Tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 6: Avida News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four past one, and that is what we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: The record number of fifteen and sixteen year olds leaving

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Speaker 3: the school system, most to other tertiary education or into

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Speaker 3: a trade. But what do you say, are you facing

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Speaker 2: What do you think of that's from pp t A

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Speaker 2: they're looking at other places to meet that. That's that's

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Speaker 2: I think they're leaving because they see opportunities at politic

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Speaker 3: They've spoken like a union. Isn't it anything to twist

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Speaker 3: it back to what they're asking for now? Charm on, Chris, come.

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Speaker 2: I might leave school and go in to go to

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, Grace, sell you this afternoon. I'm fine, and

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Speaker 8: Is that right?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so she's thirty five now. But I just thought

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Speaker 9: Came from a good family, and she's very bright, and

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Speaker 9: Her dad's job was to put kids back into school,

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Speaker 9: She's now thirty five and she's got a degree. She

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Speaker 9: So I was really upset, you know, we thought she

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Speaker 2: That's thank you so much for your call, Grace, and

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Speaker 2: that's great news about your daughter. Jos Talk said.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Jody, and we are talking about

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Speaker 3: new figures out from the Ministry of Education that shows

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Speaker 3: an increasing number of fifteen and sixteen year olds leaving schools.

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Speaker 3: To give you those numbers, one three hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: A lot of texts on this is actually stupid you

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Speaker 2: are promoting children leaving school, schools where they learn. See

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Speaker 2: you want uneducated people, of course you do. Dumb people

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Speaker 2: are compliant to your agenda. I have no power over

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Speaker 2: didn't say any of those things. I wanted to leave

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Speaker 2: school at fifteen. Parents wouldn't let me. School was torture

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Speaker 2: after that, didn't want to be there, wasn't a lot

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Speaker 2: to be allowed to join my mates who are already out,

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Speaker 2: already out getting things done. And another text, whatever you do,

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Speaker 2: do not go to university. Everything you learn at uni

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Speaker 2: soon as you can, get out of school. Colin, you

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Speaker 12: speaking for the great.

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Speaker 3: Sorry now you carry on, Sorry Colin.

436
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Speaker 12: Yeah, So I left and by the afternoon I was

437
00:20:20,173 --> 00:20:22,533
Speaker 12: jacked up in the soft a job, rode out to

438
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Speaker 12: the rode out to the freezing works and got a job.

439
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Speaker 12: And I think that's fixing these days, is that the

440
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Speaker 12: work isn't available like it was when I was give

441
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Speaker 12: them the heat hope when I had a job IOUs

442
00:20:34,253 --> 00:20:36,053
Speaker 12: never been done on Proud in my life. I remote

443
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Speaker 12: business for forty id years.

444
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Speaker 13: Go on the can mate and then he'll sort you out.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, we're a hard working men, Colin. It's a lot

446
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Speaker 3: going on.

447
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Speaker 2: Hey, sorry, Colin, We've got to jump out. We'll try

448
00:20:50,373 --> 00:20:51,733
Speaker 2: and get back to your story, but we've got to

449
00:20:51,773 --> 00:20:52,133
Speaker 2: go to this.

450
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Speaker 3: We're going live now to the press conference.

451
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Speaker 14: District Commander for Wakado District. I'd like to acknowledge the

452
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Speaker 14: support we've received from Commissioner Chambers and Acting Deputy Commissioner

453
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Speaker 14: Rogers over the past few days and providing public updates,

454
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Speaker 14: which has enabled us to focus on the operation we're

455
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Speaker 14: running in Waikato District. I'll just give you an update

456
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Speaker 14: on a few things before I pass you over to

457
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Speaker 14: Andrew Saunders. First of all, an update on the condition

458
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Speaker 14: of Officer A. Officer A remains in a serious and

459
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Speaker 14: stable condition at the Waikato Hospital where he is receiving

460
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Speaker 14: excellent medical treatment from the team there. Police continue to

461
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Speaker 14: support the family of Officer A, as well as the

462
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Speaker 14: other staff who were involved in the incident on Monday.

463
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Speaker 14: Have a message from the family members of Officer A

464
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Speaker 14: who thank the public and police for the support and

465
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Speaker 14: the messages they have received, and they ask that their

466
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Speaker 14: privacy continue to be respected. At this time, we've increased

467
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Speaker 14: visibility and reassurance patrols in the Western Waikato and Waikato District.

468
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Speaker 14: Our staff have been humbled by the community support that

469
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Speaker 14: they are receiving as are carrying out their duties. I'd

470
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Speaker 14: like to acknowledge our staff who continue to work excuse me,

471
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Speaker 14: in challenging conditions as we work through the investigation stage

472
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Speaker 14: of this operation. I know that our staff are up

473
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Speaker 14: for this. I see their passion as they continue to

474
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Speaker 14: go about their duties and I thank them for their efforts.

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Speaker 15: Well.

476
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Speaker 14: Now hand you over to Detective Senior Sergeant for an

477
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Speaker 14: Operation Curly update.

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Speaker 16: Thank you thanks for coming. As you know, I've been

479
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Speaker 16: the officer in charge of Operation Curly for a number

480
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Speaker 16: of years now. Our main folks, that has always been

481
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Speaker 16: the safe return of those children. We've achieved that aim,

482
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Speaker 16: so Operation Curly now comes to the clothes. We've got

483
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Speaker 16: a few tidy up things to do, but now a

484
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Speaker 16: new phase we're moving into. So Operation cran Mayor has

485
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Speaker 16: been stood up and that focus of that team will

486
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Speaker 16: be identifying those people that's been assisting Tom Phillips. The

487
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Speaker 16: Operation Curly team still has a few tidy up matters,

488
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Speaker 16: including the scene examination which is still going on today.

489
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Speaker 16: I'd like to make some acknowledgments in terms of the

490
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Speaker 16: community of Marakopa. We've invade it their life. I guess

491
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Speaker 16: for the last four years that's been very difficult for

492
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Speaker 16: them at times. So I'd love to thank them personally,

493
00:23:38,613 --> 00:23:45,013
Speaker 16: the public for the information they have provided, the media

494
00:23:45,173 --> 00:23:49,253
Speaker 16: for keeping this story alive, which has assisted place greatly

495
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Speaker 16: in terms of the information we've received. Mainly, I'd like

496
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Speaker 16: to acknowledge the Operation Curly investigation team, so excuse me.

497
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Speaker 16: We've had numerous staff over the past four years come

498
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Speaker 16: in and out of this investigation. They've been absolutely dedicated.

499
00:24:07,933 --> 00:24:10,813
Speaker 16: There's been highs and lows, but I'm very proud of

500
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Speaker 16: their work, well so other work groups within police that

501
00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:20,293
Speaker 16: have supported Operation Curly. So I'm happy to answer any questions.

502
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Speaker 17: Detective seeing stargant Operation Creda. Have you been able to

503
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Speaker 17: so police sem very sure that mister Phillips was getting helped.

504
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Speaker 17: Now do you have any suspects. What makes you so

505
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Speaker 17: sure that.

506
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Speaker 16: He was getting help. Yeah, So, as the investigate Operation

507
00:24:38,453 --> 00:24:42,613
Speaker 16: Curly has been going on, we've always suspected Tom Phillips

508
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Speaker 16: has been receiving help. We've our focus given what's occurred

509
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Speaker 16: in terms of the attempted murder of a police officer,

510
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Speaker 16: we think it's absolutely important that we continue to look

511
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Speaker 16: for those people that have been supporting Tom Phillips and

512
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Speaker 16: help them accountable.

513
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Speaker 17: Well the kind of charges that they might be police

514
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Speaker 17: would consider laying against those people.

515
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Speaker 16: Look, we're not at that point yet, so we're still

516
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Speaker 16: gathering evidence to identify those people.

517
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Speaker 18: Sure you give some indication that at this site here

518
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Speaker 18: there were some items that have still supported that hypothesis

519
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Speaker 18: that there are some people out there that might have

520
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Speaker 18: been helping Tom Blips.

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Speaker 4: What are some of those items that have been here.

522
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Speaker 19: To wa Shung?

523
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Speaker 16: We believe that here. So there's a number of items

524
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Speaker 16: we're gonna collect from that scene. We've got to identify

525
00:25:35,173 --> 00:25:38,333
Speaker 16: have they come from burglaries? Have people purchased them? Can

526
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Speaker 16: we link them back to stores to see, uh, has

527
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Speaker 16: he stolen them or have people purchased them for him?

528
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Speaker 4: Do you have an idea of how many vehicles he

529
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Speaker 4: had access to and where he made the begin those from.

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Speaker 16: No, we do know that some vehicles have been stolen, uh,

531
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Speaker 16: and we're still piecing that together.

532
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Speaker 17: And mister Saunder's these new photographs, this new site, what

533
00:26:01,973 --> 00:26:04,613
Speaker 17: leads police to believe this has been the main camp

534
00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:06,053
Speaker 17: site for recent.

535
00:26:05,853 --> 00:26:10,253
Speaker 16: Months in terms of the way it's uh been setting up.

536
00:26:10,413 --> 00:26:13,773
Speaker 16: Uh In further information we receive, uh, but we we

537
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Speaker 16: don't believe it's been the main place they've been living

538
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Speaker 16: for the last four years.

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Speaker 18: M When you've came across the site of the new

540
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Speaker 18: team's came out the site, what kind of springs to

541
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Speaker 18: mind when you think about the conditions that the children would.

542
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Speaker 16: Have been living in. Uh, Y're not very nice. You know,

543
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Speaker 16: it's not a campaign trip for a couple of nights,

544
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Speaker 16: so it's very dirty, you know, cramp conditions. Yeah, it's

545
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Speaker 16: it's it's not very nice to children, I wouldn't think.

546
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Speaker 17: And the information that has led for the police to

547
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Speaker 17: the site is there to come from the children, has it?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

549
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Speaker 16: Uh, I'm not gonna comment on anything that's gone from

550
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Speaker 16: the children.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any idea how many other sites might

552
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Speaker 4: potentially be out there?

553
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Speaker 17: No, we do know.

554
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Speaker 16: We've always suspected he's had uh multiple sites. The number

555
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Speaker 16: I couldn't tell you.

556
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Speaker 2: I'm just going back to the.

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Speaker 18: DAN questions, Well, uh, why deployed roads sites that we're

558
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Speaker 18: disabled the vehicle enforce the confrontation.

559
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Speaker 4: Of the land lead to be armed and dangerous.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yea.

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Speaker 16: So I'm not gonna comment on anything to do with

562
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Speaker 16: the Credital incident investigation. Uh, that's nothing I'm involved with.

563
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Speaker 18: Are you able to give any details around what investigations

564
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Speaker 18: are going on that are linked to this. I know

565
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Speaker 18: that we've got Operation Curly, there's this part of the

566
00:27:23,973 --> 00:27:27,893
Speaker 18: investigation is going on. We've got various IPCA investigations that

567
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Speaker 18: will happens.

568
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Speaker 4: Well, are you able to get the details.

569
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Speaker 16: But I can say in any critical incident, there's a

570
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Speaker 16: a critical incident investigation which is going on. There's always

571
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Speaker 16: a coroner's investigation which opens in the IPCA, which you've mentioned,

572
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Speaker 16: so that all forms part of that critical incident which

573
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Speaker 16: another team are dealing with.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 16: My focus has been Operation Curly. And will that look

576
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Speaker 16: at just this.

577
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Speaker 4: Week or will it date back across the way a

578
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Speaker 4: four years as well?

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Speaker 16: Operation Curly?

580
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Speaker 4: No, sorry, the investigations or anything.

581
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Speaker 16: Oh, look, I I couldn't comment on that in this site.

582
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Speaker 17: Is this the kind of site that less or or

583
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Speaker 17: any search teams would have been able to actually see?

584
00:28:08,413 --> 00:28:13,333
Speaker 17: I mean this is it seems well camouflaged. Is this

585
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Speaker 17: something that Lease would have been spot at all throughout

586
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Speaker 17: the four years?

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Speaker 16: S So one of the difficulties which I've talked to

588
00:28:21,853 --> 00:28:24,493
Speaker 16: before is the environment out there about and the challenge

589
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Speaker 16: with the dense bush in terms of being able to

590
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Speaker 16: see what's what's beneath that bush. This has certainly been

591
00:28:33,733 --> 00:28:35,733
Speaker 16: uh one of the areas of interest to us or

592
00:28:35,733 --> 00:28:38,413
Speaker 16: with that wide area, but as you'd appreciate from going

593
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Speaker 16: out there, it's very difficult to really pinpoint.

594
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Speaker 4: Have least received any more information that could help from

595
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Speaker 4: the children?

596
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Speaker 16: Uh, I'm not gonna comment on any information received from

597
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Speaker 16: the children.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any other leads that have come from

599
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Speaker 4: elsewhere but new currently in present?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: So this little information coming in and as I say,

602
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Speaker 16: the same examination is still going on, so I can't

603
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Speaker 16: give updates on that at the moment.

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Speaker 18: Not sure if you'll answer this question either, But there's

605
00:29:06,733 --> 00:29:10,213
Speaker 18: been concerns raised about the documentary makers that were following

606
00:29:10,213 --> 00:29:13,653
Speaker 18: aspects of operation. Couldly how do you manage that in

607
00:29:13,813 --> 00:29:15,893
Speaker 18: life of the concerns around them? The paper this lane

608
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Speaker 18: had on children?

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Speaker 16: Yes, so look the uh the f the documentary follow

610
00:29:21,653 --> 00:29:24,613
Speaker 16: team any questions around that or have to defer you

611
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Speaker 16: to our media section.

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Speaker 4: Are the brides still closed or publit tacks? You're stopped off? Anywhay?

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00:29:30,533 --> 00:29:30,653
Speaker 18: Uh?

614
00:29:31,653 --> 00:29:35,133
Speaker 16: Still in and around that this particular scene, hopefully that

615
00:29:35,173 --> 00:29:36,133
Speaker 16: will be finished today.

616
00:29:36,533 --> 00:29:39,373
Speaker 17: And mister Saunders, uh this scene here at uh at

617
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Speaker 17: this site, are you over to detail? I mean anything

618
00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:45,013
Speaker 17: more about the conditions when the police found sleeping bags?

619
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Speaker 17: I mean what what exactly how are they living out there?

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Speaker 17: Obviously we can see these images. Uh it looks like

621
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Speaker 17: a very cold and uh uncomfortable place. And mean sa

622
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Speaker 17: police found any anything like sleeping bag's blankets or anything

623
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Speaker 17: like us?

624
00:30:01,053 --> 00:30:04,333
Speaker 16: Yeah, certainly the sleeping bags there a tent or appear

625
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Speaker 16: to be in the same the same sleeping area.

626
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Speaker 4: Sure, I'm given how tight it is.

627
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Speaker 3: So that is the latest update in the investigation into

628
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Speaker 3: the Tom Phillips situation. So to recamp from Wyatto District

629
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Speaker 3: Commander Andrea macbeth. She talked about Officer A, the one

630
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Speaker 3: that was injured in that fatal shooting incident. He remains

631
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Speaker 3: in a stable bit serious condition. His family wanted to

632
00:30:27,773 --> 00:30:30,133
Speaker 3: thank the public for their messages of support, but they're

633
00:30:30,133 --> 00:30:33,093
Speaker 3: now asking for privacy. Police have been humbled by the

634
00:30:33,133 --> 00:30:35,973
Speaker 3: support of the local community and paid credit to their

635
00:30:36,013 --> 00:30:38,253
Speaker 3: staff who have been working in tough conditions as well.

636
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Speaker 3: And we heard from Detective Senior Sergeant Andrew Saunders, who's

637
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Speaker 3: been leading this investigation. He talked about Operation Curly, so

638
00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:47,773
Speaker 3: that has been the wider investigation over the last four years.

639
00:30:48,093 --> 00:30:51,653
Speaker 3: That's almost wrapped up. They've now moved into Operation Cranmere.

640
00:30:51,973 --> 00:30:55,493
Speaker 3: So the big focus of that investigation is identifying people

641
00:30:55,573 --> 00:30:59,613
Speaker 3: assisting Tom Phillips. So they always suspected he was getting

642
00:30:59,653 --> 00:31:02,093
Speaker 3: help and they are now trying to track down those

643
00:31:02,133 --> 00:31:05,373
Speaker 3: people and hold them to account in terms of where

644
00:31:05,493 --> 00:31:07,933
Speaker 3: the goods came from that they discovered at those camp sites.

645
00:31:07,973 --> 00:31:10,613
Speaker 3: That is a key part of the investigation. Some vehicles

646
00:31:10,693 --> 00:31:12,813
Speaker 3: were stolen, but they're trying to track down where those

647
00:31:12,853 --> 00:31:15,013
Speaker 3: goods came from, whether they were given to Tom Phillips

648
00:31:15,213 --> 00:31:17,653
Speaker 3: or whether he stole them in the burglaries. And they

649
00:31:17,733 --> 00:31:19,933
Speaker 3: believe the camp we've seen in the photos was their

650
00:31:19,973 --> 00:31:22,213
Speaker 3: main camp for the last four years.

651
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Speaker 10: So just to.

652
00:31:23,613 --> 00:31:27,133
Speaker 3: Reiterate the Operation Curly, the wider investigation over the last

653
00:31:27,173 --> 00:31:29,533
Speaker 3: four years is almost wrapped up. They're now into Operation

654
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Speaker 3: Cram there tracking down those suspected of assisting Tom Phillips.

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Speaker 3: So plenty more to come on that story as the

656
00:31:35,933 --> 00:31:38,813
Speaker 3: afternoon progresses. It is seventeen to two.

657
00:31:40,613 --> 00:31:44,053
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on.

658
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:47,413
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons news talks.

659
00:31:47,453 --> 00:31:50,013
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon. So back to our discussion

660
00:31:50,053 --> 00:31:52,253
Speaker 3: about an increasing number of fifteen and sixteen year olds

661
00:31:52,373 --> 00:31:55,093
Speaker 3: leaving secondary school early. If you've had children wanting to

662
00:31:55,213 --> 00:31:56,733
Speaker 3: leave early, we're ken to hear from you. Oh one

663
00:31:56,813 --> 00:31:58,373
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty.

664
00:31:58,813 --> 00:32:00,813
Speaker 2: Back to Colin. Sorry, Colin, we had to jump away

665
00:32:00,853 --> 00:32:04,573
Speaker 2: from that presser, but we were talking about you leaving

666
00:32:04,613 --> 00:32:05,493
Speaker 2: school when you're fifteen.

667
00:32:06,853 --> 00:32:09,773
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, So I think between that and now, it's

668
00:32:09,813 --> 00:32:13,133
Speaker 12: the availability of the work. You know, if the kids

669
00:32:13,213 --> 00:32:17,173
Speaker 12: can leave and be able to support themselves, not rely

670
00:32:17,253 --> 00:32:18,893
Speaker 12: on mom and dad or the doll I mean, I've

671
00:32:18,973 --> 00:32:22,693
Speaker 12: never had a day's doll or any government assistant there

672
00:32:22,813 --> 00:32:25,013
Speaker 12: in my life. I've never had a day off work.

673
00:32:25,973 --> 00:32:29,653
Speaker 12: You know, I still work full time driving. I'm seventy

674
00:32:29,733 --> 00:32:34,133
Speaker 12: one now. I work between here in Australia, three months here,

675
00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:38,293
Speaker 12: three months over there. But if they can support themselves

676
00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:40,333
Speaker 12: and that sort of stuff, all good luck to him,

677
00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:43,453
Speaker 12: because you know, schooling and stuff for everybody. I mean,

678
00:32:43,813 --> 00:32:46,173
Speaker 12: I had a variety of jobs. I did military for

679
00:32:46,413 --> 00:32:49,293
Speaker 12: six years, I ran my own business for forty years,

680
00:32:49,373 --> 00:32:54,933
Speaker 12: and trucks. My father he left school at thirteen way back,

681
00:32:55,133 --> 00:32:58,173
Speaker 12: you know, obviously, many many years ago. He ended up

682
00:32:58,213 --> 00:33:01,813
Speaker 12: as a very respected farm manager. And when he retired

683
00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:04,813
Speaker 12: from farm manager, he ended up buying two motels worked

684
00:33:04,853 --> 00:33:07,173
Speaker 12: when I lived in at least the other one. So

685
00:33:07,973 --> 00:33:11,293
Speaker 12: you know, education is not the be all and end all.

686
00:33:11,373 --> 00:33:14,013
Speaker 12: I mean, it's it is important, and you know, if

687
00:33:14,053 --> 00:33:18,093
Speaker 12: you're a person who needs or requires that education to

688
00:33:18,173 --> 00:33:20,533
Speaker 12: survive or get ahead or get it into particular work,

689
00:33:21,453 --> 00:33:23,893
Speaker 12: that's great. At two of my granddaughters are going through

690
00:33:24,053 --> 00:33:26,493
Speaker 12: university through Otaga doing medical degrees.

691
00:33:26,933 --> 00:33:29,493
Speaker 2: Wow, at the moment, their.

692
00:33:28,933 --> 00:33:32,293
Speaker 12: Father's paying for their father, our son, he's paying for

693
00:33:32,413 --> 00:33:35,053
Speaker 12: all of their tuition. Plus I've got a couple of

694
00:33:35,173 --> 00:33:38,853
Speaker 12: nice cars, and he got jacked him up with, you know,

695
00:33:39,653 --> 00:33:41,933
Speaker 12: a house to rent and that sort of stuff as well.

696
00:33:44,493 --> 00:33:47,373
Speaker 12: You know, the family has been very successful. I put

697
00:33:47,453 --> 00:33:51,733
Speaker 12: that all down to their mother. I did the workships

698
00:33:51,733 --> 00:33:55,333
Speaker 12: of educating them. But you know, it's it's I think

699
00:33:55,373 --> 00:33:57,373
Speaker 12: it's harder these days to the young ones to leave

700
00:33:58,173 --> 00:34:01,173
Speaker 12: and become self sufficient. I mean at fifteen, I organized

701
00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:04,613
Speaker 12: a job, I organized board, I started work, and I

702
00:34:04,773 --> 00:34:07,733
Speaker 12: never had a penny for anybody and did it all myself.

703
00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:11,453
Speaker 2: You said before, Colin that you sorry. Colin. You said

704
00:34:11,453 --> 00:34:14,533
Speaker 2: before that when you left school it was sort of

705
00:34:14,853 --> 00:34:18,613
Speaker 2: mutually agreed between you and the school that you should leave.

706
00:34:18,773 --> 00:34:20,133
Speaker 2: Did you get in some kind of trouble if you

707
00:34:20,173 --> 00:34:22,413
Speaker 2: don't mind talking about, And do you think that trouble

708
00:34:22,453 --> 00:34:24,333
Speaker 2: that you were getting into is because you were just

709
00:34:24,733 --> 00:34:26,373
Speaker 2: unsuited for the schooling environment.

710
00:34:27,533 --> 00:34:28,333
Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely.

711
00:34:28,813 --> 00:34:32,093
Speaker 12: I had anger management issues and I had a punch

712
00:34:32,173 --> 00:34:33,133
Speaker 12: up with the teacher.

713
00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:34,893
Speaker 20: And I won.

714
00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:38,013
Speaker 12: Well, I was a big boy, I was I was

715
00:34:38,053 --> 00:34:42,213
Speaker 12: six foot one, and you know I was brought up

716
00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:44,293
Speaker 12: farming boy, you know, and that sort of stuff.

717
00:34:44,773 --> 00:34:47,133
Speaker 2: But what was the issue, Colin, What was the issue

718
00:34:47,133 --> 00:34:48,293
Speaker 2: that flared it up with the teacher?

719
00:34:50,853 --> 00:34:52,053
Speaker 13: He wanted to give me a cane.

720
00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:55,252
Speaker 12: I was home to take a hike because I hadn't

721
00:34:55,253 --> 00:34:56,973
Speaker 12: done what it was, and he grabbed me by the year.

722
00:34:57,453 --> 00:34:58,413
Speaker 3: So he started when he.

723
00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:00,333
Speaker 12: Grabbed me by the year. Yeah, when he grabbed me

724
00:35:00,373 --> 00:35:01,253
Speaker 12: by the year, I hung on.

725
00:35:02,773 --> 00:35:06,813
Speaker 2: Fair enough that there will INDI your school career far

726
00:35:06,893 --> 00:35:09,933
Speaker 2: enough on both accounts. Color, how did your parents take

727
00:35:09,973 --> 00:35:11,853
Speaker 2: that incident when when it came back to them.

728
00:35:12,533 --> 00:35:16,533
Speaker 3: He put very well, yeah, yeah, and your parents were

729
00:35:16,573 --> 00:35:18,172
Speaker 3: they were they happy that you got both just out

730
00:35:18,213 --> 00:35:18,533
Speaker 3: of school.

731
00:35:18,573 --> 00:35:18,772
Speaker 21: Mate.

732
00:35:20,773 --> 00:35:22,692
Speaker 12: I didn't have much to do with my parents back then.

733
00:35:24,173 --> 00:35:27,373
Speaker 12: I was in a boys home prior to you know,

734
00:35:27,693 --> 00:35:31,613
Speaker 12: for the previous two years place called essentially down in

735
00:35:31,653 --> 00:35:32,293
Speaker 12: the forever.

736
00:35:33,173 --> 00:35:34,253
Speaker 6: But yeah, I didn't have.

737
00:35:34,293 --> 00:35:35,253
Speaker 13: So much to do with them.

738
00:35:37,013 --> 00:35:39,613
Speaker 12: It wasn't until sort of later in life that I

739
00:35:39,693 --> 00:35:43,172
Speaker 12: sort of reconnected definantly was my father, and we ended

740
00:35:43,213 --> 00:35:47,893
Speaker 12: up with a reasonably good relationship, especially uh to lead past.

741
00:35:49,133 --> 00:35:52,453
Speaker 12: But yeah, I've got a great family, you know, great kids,

742
00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:55,173
Speaker 12: doubled one incredibly well and didn't have now some trouble

743
00:35:55,213 --> 00:35:58,013
Speaker 12: for many of them. But you know, I put that

744
00:35:58,133 --> 00:36:00,533
Speaker 12: down to growing up in a rural environment, smaller towns

745
00:36:00,573 --> 00:36:03,933
Speaker 12: and not cities. Not so many temptations.

746
00:36:03,973 --> 00:36:06,093
Speaker 2: So we say, yeah, well, thank you so much for

747
00:36:06,093 --> 00:36:09,292
Speaker 2: your cool Colin, and I'm glad that you're everything's turned

748
00:36:09,293 --> 00:36:12,253
Speaker 2: out fantastically for you. So school wasn't right for him?

749
00:36:12,733 --> 00:36:12,773
Speaker 18: No.

750
00:36:13,093 --> 00:36:15,093
Speaker 2: I say to my son the other day that you know,

751
00:36:15,133 --> 00:36:18,172
Speaker 2: we're having a chat about the cane, and I asked

752
00:36:18,213 --> 00:36:19,933
Speaker 2: him the question, would you rather be hit with the

753
00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:22,213
Speaker 2: cane or go through an attention for an hour? And

754
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,293
Speaker 2: he was like, much rather be a cane. I mean,

755
00:36:25,653 --> 00:36:27,453
Speaker 2: there's an argument the kids lost something a little bit,

756
00:36:27,533 --> 00:36:30,253
Speaker 2: because you know, staying at attention and missing the buses

757
00:36:30,373 --> 00:36:34,053
Speaker 2: is an absolute punished Personally, I'd prefer just three really

758
00:36:34,093 --> 00:36:36,013
Speaker 2: hard whax and walk home with the saw bum than

759
00:36:36,093 --> 00:36:36,973
Speaker 2: having to miss.

760
00:36:36,813 --> 00:36:38,973
Speaker 3: The bus thirty seconds of pain and a bit of

761
00:36:39,013 --> 00:36:39,773
Speaker 3: a bruise.

762
00:36:39,573 --> 00:36:41,252
Speaker 2: Especially when I was at school, missed the call. TV

763
00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:43,453
Speaker 2: shows that we're on Olsen.

764
00:36:43,653 --> 00:36:46,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty seconds versus an hour. Oh eight hundred eighty

765
00:36:46,493 --> 00:36:48,773
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. And an increasing

766
00:36:48,853 --> 00:36:51,213
Speaker 3: number of kids are leaving school at fifteen and sixteen.

767
00:36:51,653 --> 00:36:53,453
Speaker 3: If your kids are going through that, we'd love to

768
00:36:53,533 --> 00:36:55,093
Speaker 3: hear from you. It is nine to two.

769
00:36:56,733 --> 00:36:59,933
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight

770
00:37:00,053 --> 00:37:02,453
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty, It's Matt Heath and Taylor

771
00:37:02,493 --> 00:37:04,693
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons News Talks.

772
00:37:04,493 --> 00:37:09,053
Speaker 3: EDB, News TALKSB. It is six to one and we're

773
00:37:09,413 --> 00:37:10,773
Speaker 3: sorry you go mate. I was just going to say,

774
00:37:10,773 --> 00:37:13,133
Speaker 3: we're talking about fifteen and sixteen year olds leaving school

775
00:37:13,173 --> 00:37:15,533
Speaker 3: and record numbers, plenty of texts coming through.

776
00:37:15,893 --> 00:37:19,373
Speaker 2: Colin was great. He summarized your real life caller working

777
00:37:19,453 --> 00:37:22,373
Speaker 2: hard but has Zibi on in the background. Yeah, Color

778
00:37:22,453 --> 00:37:24,493
Speaker 2: called us through is working at the gates, et cetera.

779
00:37:24,733 --> 00:37:26,173
Speaker 2: The cane is good. You got to learn how to

780
00:37:26,253 --> 00:37:28,093
Speaker 2: take it, got to learn how to take a hit.

781
00:37:28,213 --> 00:37:28,413
Speaker 22: You do.

782
00:37:28,653 --> 00:37:31,333
Speaker 2: This is around my discussion with my son where he said,

783
00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:34,773
Speaker 2: hed much rather be caned than have to stay for detention.

784
00:37:35,493 --> 00:37:37,293
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the option. We've got a few good

785
00:37:37,333 --> 00:37:37,732
Speaker 2: at the option.

786
00:37:37,933 --> 00:37:38,652
Speaker 3: Bring back the cane.

787
00:37:39,013 --> 00:37:42,173
Speaker 2: I think I got some late stage caning from a teacher.

788
00:37:42,213 --> 00:37:43,533
Speaker 2: I think I think it was ruled out. I think

789
00:37:43,533 --> 00:37:45,373
Speaker 2: it was ruled out later in the Lower South Island

790
00:37:45,413 --> 00:37:49,413
Speaker 2: than it was any else. But it's better than maybe

791
00:37:49,453 --> 00:37:51,493
Speaker 2: they were their heart wasn't in it by the end

792
00:37:51,533 --> 00:37:53,692
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, because I was like much rather get

793
00:37:53,813 --> 00:37:55,973
Speaker 2: just a whack or much rather get strapped than have

794
00:37:56,013 --> 00:37:56,773
Speaker 2: to stay for a detention.

795
00:37:56,853 --> 00:37:58,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, out of principle. That slapped me around a couple

796
00:37:58,573 --> 00:37:59,973
Speaker 3: of times, and that was just the way that it

797
00:38:00,093 --> 00:38:00,732
Speaker 3: was done at the time.

798
00:38:00,853 --> 00:38:02,573
Speaker 2: Many of the kids who leave school early seemed to

799
00:38:02,653 --> 00:38:05,253
Speaker 2: find that they have something to prove, normally against negative

800
00:38:05,293 --> 00:38:08,053
Speaker 2: comments about leaving school earlier. I left at sixteen, multi

801
00:38:08,693 --> 00:38:11,533
Speaker 2: at age thirty seven with my own building company, nice

802
00:38:11,733 --> 00:38:15,293
Speaker 2: and success. Funny how the ones who left school early

803
00:38:15,333 --> 00:38:17,893
Speaker 2: wouldn't change the decision. Those who stayed also wouldn't change

804
00:38:17,893 --> 00:38:20,493
Speaker 2: the decision. Anyone out there who regrets staying at school

805
00:38:20,573 --> 00:38:24,373
Speaker 2: till year thirteen, or who regrets leaving early, that's an

806
00:38:24,373 --> 00:38:27,692
Speaker 2: interesting thing. I mean, regrets for pointless in life, right, Yeah,

807
00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:30,853
Speaker 2: So I mean if you left at sixteen, then then

808
00:38:31,413 --> 00:38:32,893
Speaker 2: get on with it, although you kind of regret it,

809
00:38:32,933 --> 00:38:33,213
Speaker 2: don't you.

810
00:38:33,573 --> 00:38:35,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did a little bit. I left at sixteen

811
00:38:35,493 --> 00:38:38,933
Speaker 3: and I went into polytech to do a six month

812
00:38:39,053 --> 00:38:41,493
Speaker 3: course and I left because I just wasn't having fun

813
00:38:41,533 --> 00:38:44,853
Speaker 3: at school anymore. But then because I was still mates

814
00:38:44,893 --> 00:38:46,613
Speaker 3: with you know, guys who went on to do the

815
00:38:46,653 --> 00:38:49,093
Speaker 3: synth form, and they said they had the best of

816
00:38:49,173 --> 00:38:51,493
Speaker 3: the piast here of their life. They had so many

817
00:38:51,573 --> 00:38:53,853
Speaker 3: free periods, and they were king of the school. They

818
00:38:53,973 --> 00:38:56,293
Speaker 3: ruled the roast, and they wore a room. Yeah, the

819
00:38:56,413 --> 00:38:59,413
Speaker 3: number ones sports blazers. Yeah, that was a good time.

820
00:38:59,453 --> 00:39:00,812
Speaker 3: So I looked at it and thought, man, I missed

821
00:39:00,813 --> 00:39:03,213
Speaker 3: a trick there, But I turned out alright in the end.

822
00:39:03,253 --> 00:39:05,373
Speaker 2: So happy days this Texas says I used to enjoy

823
00:39:05,453 --> 00:39:08,293
Speaker 2: the cane. Well that's a different story all to gain

824
00:39:08,493 --> 00:39:08,733
Speaker 2: that is.

825
00:39:08,893 --> 00:39:10,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fifty shades right there.

826
00:39:11,253 --> 00:39:15,333
Speaker 2: There are people clearly yes, there's no two ways about it.

827
00:39:15,333 --> 00:39:17,973
Speaker 3: No judgment right. We're going to carry this on after

828
00:39:18,173 --> 00:39:21,253
Speaker 3: two o'clock. So keen to hear your stories on our

829
00:39:21,253 --> 00:39:23,093
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and if you want

830
00:39:23,133 --> 00:39:25,212
Speaker 3: to send teacher, more than welcome. Nine to nine two.

831
00:39:25,853 --> 00:39:28,613
Speaker 3: If your kids have left school at fifteen and sixteen,

832
00:39:28,853 --> 00:39:31,093
Speaker 3: why and what have they gone into? Really keen to

833
00:39:31,133 --> 00:39:33,652
Speaker 3: get your stories. New sport and weather coming up. You're

834
00:39:33,773 --> 00:39:37,172
Speaker 3: listening to Matt and Tyler. It is three minutes to two. Great,

835
00:39:37,293 --> 00:39:40,093
Speaker 3: have your company as always, have you having a great afternoon.

836
00:39:45,413 --> 00:39:49,133
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams

837
00:39:49,293 --> 00:39:51,093
Speaker 1: afternoons news talks.

838
00:39:51,093 --> 00:39:54,172
Speaker 3: It'd be for a good afternoons you welcome back into

839
00:39:54,213 --> 00:39:56,613
Speaker 3: the program. So we're going to continue on with this conversation.

840
00:39:56,813 --> 00:39:59,373
Speaker 3: More kids are leaving school at fifteen and sixteen, but

841
00:39:59,413 --> 00:40:02,733
Speaker 3: there's growing talk about raising the leaving age to seventeen.

842
00:40:02,773 --> 00:40:03,773
Speaker 3: How would that impact you.

843
00:40:04,613 --> 00:40:06,853
Speaker 2: The text that says I left seventh form, worked as

844
00:40:06,893 --> 00:40:09,652
Speaker 2: a photographer and dive coach, then into property and made

845
00:40:09,813 --> 00:40:13,133
Speaker 2: forty nine million by my mid thirties, then litigation and

846
00:40:13,293 --> 00:40:17,013
Speaker 2: won a five hundred million dollar case. Rarely I would

847
00:40:17,053 --> 00:40:19,973
Speaker 2: have said, come on, I want to see those numbers. Yeah,

848
00:40:20,373 --> 00:40:22,013
Speaker 2: one of five hundred million dollar case.

849
00:40:22,213 --> 00:40:25,653
Speaker 3: Give us your last name. I mean, congrats if that's true.

850
00:40:25,613 --> 00:40:26,533
Speaker 2: Give us a hundred million.

851
00:40:26,813 --> 00:40:27,013
Speaker 8: Yeah.

852
00:40:27,493 --> 00:40:29,573
Speaker 2: My parents wanted me to finish school, but good on

853
00:40:29,653 --> 00:40:32,652
Speaker 2: you if it's true, Very well done. Go from dive

854
00:40:32,773 --> 00:40:35,773
Speaker 2: coach to forty nine million. My parents wanted me to

855
00:40:35,813 --> 00:40:39,613
Speaker 2: finish school, but I begged them to leave as it

856
00:40:39,893 --> 00:40:42,293
Speaker 2: suited me. They were unhappy, but I left college in

857
00:40:42,373 --> 00:40:44,933
Speaker 2: the first term of year eleven, never got my NCA

858
00:40:45,133 --> 00:40:48,173
Speaker 2: Level two credits, went straight to Unitech to study art

859
00:40:48,253 --> 00:40:50,813
Speaker 2: and design, and finished my bachelor's at Media Design School.

860
00:40:50,813 --> 00:40:53,613
Speaker 2: I received my bachelor's one or two years before everyone

861
00:40:53,693 --> 00:40:56,213
Speaker 2: else the same age as me. I don't believe college

862
00:40:56,293 --> 00:41:00,373
Speaker 2: is catered towards everyone, especially artistic and creative, hands on

863
00:41:00,773 --> 00:41:01,933
Speaker 2: people like myself.

864
00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:02,293
Speaker 3: Yeah.

865
00:41:02,453 --> 00:41:04,333
Speaker 2: This, Texas says our son was good at math but

866
00:41:04,733 --> 00:41:07,253
Speaker 2: didn't want to be at school anymore, so was interested

867
00:41:07,253 --> 00:41:10,692
Speaker 2: in engineering approach, and an engineering company asked if they

868
00:41:10,733 --> 00:41:13,173
Speaker 2: could try him out for two days, no page, just

869
00:41:13,213 --> 00:41:14,613
Speaker 2: to see if you liked it. They took him on

870
00:41:15,093 --> 00:41:17,573
Speaker 2: as an apprentice after one day. Now, in his thirties,

871
00:41:17,613 --> 00:41:21,573
Speaker 2: he owns his own engineering company. Tell you what we're

872
00:41:21,613 --> 00:41:26,173
Speaker 2: hearing every story hearing about people living school area. Is

873
00:41:26,973 --> 00:41:28,013
Speaker 2: some of them truer than others?

874
00:41:28,093 --> 00:41:30,053
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do pretty well in life. Turns out, so

875
00:41:30,413 --> 00:41:32,053
Speaker 3: kids don't stay in school.

876
00:41:32,533 --> 00:41:34,973
Speaker 2: At fifteen guaranteed to make fifteen million.

877
00:41:36,493 --> 00:41:38,212
Speaker 3: Quinn, how are you good?

878
00:41:38,293 --> 00:41:38,493
Speaker 20: Mate?

879
00:41:38,493 --> 00:41:38,773
Speaker 23: How are you?

880
00:41:39,013 --> 00:41:39,212
Speaker 24: Yeah?

881
00:41:39,293 --> 00:41:39,453
Speaker 22: Good?

882
00:41:39,493 --> 00:41:39,692
Speaker 3: Good.

883
00:41:39,933 --> 00:41:42,613
Speaker 2: You're twenty two, so you've got a very interesting perspective

884
00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:43,893
Speaker 2: on this. You're close to things.

885
00:41:44,773 --> 00:41:49,453
Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely, definitely for me personally, I reckon I reckon

886
00:41:49,493 --> 00:41:52,493
Speaker 15: school is necessary to be honest. I don't reckon it

887
00:41:52,573 --> 00:41:55,773
Speaker 15: as until you know year thirteen or form seven. I

888
00:41:55,813 --> 00:41:58,053
Speaker 15: don't think that's the case. But I think at least

889
00:41:58,093 --> 00:42:00,773
Speaker 15: you know your Form five, your year eleven and at

890
00:42:00,813 --> 00:42:04,013
Speaker 15: the moment your NCAA level one, just knowing how to

891
00:42:04,053 --> 00:42:07,893
Speaker 15: read and write English. And I've run I've run into

892
00:42:07,933 --> 00:42:10,013
Speaker 15: a lot of people that don't know how to read

893
00:42:10,053 --> 00:42:13,453
Speaker 15: and write. And you know, for whatever trade you're going into,

894
00:42:13,733 --> 00:42:16,213
Speaker 15: you need to know. You know what I mean, you

895
00:42:16,373 --> 00:42:18,573
Speaker 15: need to know. And when I say I run into

896
00:42:18,613 --> 00:42:20,973
Speaker 15: a lot of people, I genuinely mean it. And this

897
00:42:21,133 --> 00:42:24,413
Speaker 15: supports there and there is depending on the school I

898
00:42:24,493 --> 00:42:28,053
Speaker 15: went to. I went to Lombay College. There was options there.

899
00:42:28,333 --> 00:42:30,413
Speaker 15: You know, you could go more academic, you could go

900
00:42:30,773 --> 00:42:33,093
Speaker 15: more on the artsist side. And for a lot of

901
00:42:33,173 --> 00:42:35,413
Speaker 15: people that didn't make it at my year level, you

902
00:42:35,533 --> 00:42:38,733
Speaker 15: know why they left school, No, because they didn't like

903
00:42:38,813 --> 00:42:40,173
Speaker 15: getting up in the morning, you know.

904
00:42:40,373 --> 00:42:43,413
Speaker 13: And if you want to go into you know, if you.

905
00:42:43,413 --> 00:42:45,333
Speaker 15: Want to go into the trade, you're going to have

906
00:42:45,453 --> 00:42:47,093
Speaker 15: to You're going to have to get up earlier than that.

907
00:42:47,133 --> 00:42:48,733
Speaker 15: You're gonna have to work harder than that. You have

908
00:42:48,773 --> 00:42:51,933
Speaker 15: to related in what we did when we were in school.

909
00:42:52,333 --> 00:42:56,213
Speaker 15: If you can't stay in school till yet, you know,

910
00:42:56,493 --> 00:43:00,173
Speaker 15: year eleven, Form five at least, it's not going to

911
00:43:00,213 --> 00:43:03,093
Speaker 15: be any easier, you know what I mean, that's my opinion.

912
00:43:03,373 --> 00:43:05,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you look back at my well, I

913
00:43:05,573 --> 00:43:07,853
Speaker 3: look back at my school days now, and what is

914
00:43:07,893 --> 00:43:10,053
Speaker 3: it about six hours? You get a nice lunch time,

915
00:43:10,133 --> 00:43:12,053
Speaker 3: you get plenty of holidays. And I thought I was

916
00:43:12,093 --> 00:43:13,853
Speaker 3: hard done by as a kid, as oh man, this

917
00:43:14,013 --> 00:43:15,813
Speaker 3: is so long. But then you get into the real world.

918
00:43:15,933 --> 00:43:17,732
Speaker 2: But you remember this, quin. God, it's hard to get

919
00:43:17,733 --> 00:43:19,093
Speaker 2: out of bed when you're a teenage boy.

920
00:43:20,253 --> 00:43:22,213
Speaker 25: Definitely, sure, it hurts.

921
00:43:22,333 --> 00:43:24,933
Speaker 2: It's actually physically hurts to get out of bed.

922
00:43:25,093 --> 00:43:27,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're up before midday as a teenage boy,

923
00:43:27,373 --> 00:43:28,093
Speaker 3: you're doing pretty well.

924
00:43:28,253 --> 00:43:30,093
Speaker 2: I'd get up from because we lived on the farm,

925
00:43:30,173 --> 00:43:32,493
Speaker 2: had to be you know, catched right into town with

926
00:43:32,573 --> 00:43:35,413
Speaker 2: my dad to the buses, and I'd be like, he'd

927
00:43:35,453 --> 00:43:37,053
Speaker 2: be honking the horn and I'd just be putting my

928
00:43:37,173 --> 00:43:40,813
Speaker 2: uniform on it. Actually, it was like you'd been tranquilizer darted,

929
00:43:41,693 --> 00:43:44,772
Speaker 2: just trying to walk down across the from my room

930
00:43:44,813 --> 00:43:48,853
Speaker 2: to the car. But so you stayed right to the

931
00:43:48,933 --> 00:43:49,813
Speaker 2: end of school, did you, Quinn?

932
00:43:50,613 --> 00:43:54,453
Speaker 15: No, No, actually didn't. My left into Form six. I

933
00:43:54,573 --> 00:43:56,813
Speaker 15: got my insare level two and I got out of

934
00:43:56,893 --> 00:44:01,253
Speaker 15: there because I didn't enjoy it either. But I recognized

935
00:44:01,293 --> 00:44:04,733
Speaker 15: skills that I still use to this day from school.

936
00:44:04,813 --> 00:44:07,253
Speaker 15: And when I mean skills doesn't mean I'm using algebra

937
00:44:07,453 --> 00:44:09,493
Speaker 15: on a daily base. Is what I mean by skills

938
00:44:09,653 --> 00:44:13,813
Speaker 15: is life lessons, you know, from my teachers. And that's

939
00:44:13,813 --> 00:44:17,333
Speaker 15: another thing too. I think what makes schools school enjoyable

940
00:44:18,333 --> 00:44:20,453
Speaker 15: is the teachers. You know, you've got a good teacher,

941
00:44:20,653 --> 00:44:21,373
Speaker 15: you're gonna love it.

942
00:44:21,973 --> 00:44:25,172
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, And a lot of people would agree

943
00:44:25,213 --> 00:44:26,813
Speaker 3: with what you just said there, but it sounds I

944
00:44:26,893 --> 00:44:29,173
Speaker 3: mean it's for those kids out there and lot yourself,

945
00:44:29,213 --> 00:44:30,652
Speaker 3: you are, you left a bit early. But if you're

946
00:44:30,693 --> 00:44:33,813
Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen, school's not for you. But you've got that

947
00:44:34,053 --> 00:44:36,653
Speaker 3: work ethic or you've got that drive on something you

948
00:44:36,773 --> 00:44:38,893
Speaker 3: want to do. That's the key part, right, Rather than

949
00:44:38,973 --> 00:44:41,373
Speaker 3: the fifteen and sixteen year olds they don't like school,

950
00:44:41,413 --> 00:44:42,933
Speaker 3: but they're not too sure what they want to do.

951
00:44:43,413 --> 00:44:44,933
Speaker 3: Maybe they just want to stay at home for a

952
00:44:44,973 --> 00:44:48,772
Speaker 3: few days. It's not kind of you know, that's that's

953
00:44:48,813 --> 00:44:50,573
Speaker 3: not the drive you need to actually succeed if you

954
00:44:50,653 --> 00:44:51,053
Speaker 3: leave early.

955
00:44:52,093 --> 00:44:54,653
Speaker 15: Definitely differently, Like, don't get me wrong, I feel like

956
00:44:54,813 --> 00:44:59,373
Speaker 15: if you can write a report and you have work

957
00:44:59,453 --> 00:45:01,933
Speaker 15: ethic and you'll let's say you just turn sixteen one

958
00:45:02,013 --> 00:45:03,733
Speaker 15: hundred percent, I think you should go for it. But

959
00:45:04,493 --> 00:45:06,613
Speaker 15: at the same time, if you can't read a book,

960
00:45:06,933 --> 00:45:12,212
Speaker 15: and like I'm not talking about an extensive, super comprehensive book,

961
00:45:12,253 --> 00:45:15,172
Speaker 15: I'm just talking about like a basic novel or read

962
00:45:15,213 --> 00:45:18,413
Speaker 15: a basic work report, you need to stay you know.

963
00:45:18,653 --> 00:45:18,973
Speaker 26: There we go.

964
00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:20,933
Speaker 2: We talked about that for quite a long time yesterday,

965
00:45:20,933 --> 00:45:22,652
Speaker 2: and Quinn, thank you so much for being a young

966
00:45:22,733 --> 00:45:27,213
Speaker 2: person that translated years into forms for some people, because

967
00:45:27,613 --> 00:45:31,692
Speaker 2: good Man knowing that year thirteen is seventh form. Yeah,

968
00:45:32,493 --> 00:45:34,053
Speaker 2: it catches a lot of people out to.

969
00:45:34,053 --> 00:45:34,413
Speaker 8: Get your hit.

970
00:45:34,453 --> 00:45:36,773
Speaker 3: Around oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

971
00:45:36,893 --> 00:45:39,373
Speaker 3: the number to call. Should the school leaving age go

972
00:45:39,533 --> 00:45:42,013
Speaker 3: up to seventeen? What would that mean for your family?

973
00:45:42,493 --> 00:45:43,453
Speaker 3: Plenty of texts coming through.

974
00:45:43,453 --> 00:45:45,773
Speaker 2: On nine two nine two, the Sexus said, Albert Einstein

975
00:45:45,853 --> 00:45:48,692
Speaker 2: left school at fourteen or fifteen. I guess school didn't

976
00:45:48,733 --> 00:45:51,293
Speaker 2: have much to do with his great mind, intellect and achievements.

977
00:45:51,373 --> 00:45:54,093
Speaker 2: Well people say that, but he left school in his

978
00:45:54,173 --> 00:45:56,493
Speaker 2: fifteen but then he did end up going back to

979
00:45:56,613 --> 00:46:00,173
Speaker 2: school in Switzerland afterwards and whether that he became a

980
00:46:00,213 --> 00:46:01,813
Speaker 2: tutor after that as well, So he ended up doing

981
00:46:01,933 --> 00:46:04,253
Speaker 2: quite a lot of stuff there. But you know, get

982
00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:05,013
Speaker 2: point taken.

983
00:46:05,213 --> 00:46:07,373
Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely right. Coming up, we're going to have a

984
00:46:07,533 --> 00:46:09,853
Speaker 3: chat to pen and she had two sons who left

985
00:46:09,893 --> 00:46:12,253
Speaker 3: school early and are both doing very well now, so

986
00:46:12,373 --> 00:46:14,652
Speaker 3: we'll get to her next. It is thirteen past two and.

987
00:46:14,693 --> 00:46:16,493
Speaker 2: A lot of people pushing back on my claims that

988
00:46:16,853 --> 00:46:18,733
Speaker 2: it's better to get caine than to go to a detention.

989
00:46:18,853 --> 00:46:20,053
Speaker 3: Apparently it hurt quite a lot.

990
00:46:20,173 --> 00:46:21,813
Speaker 2: Some people are saying that my teachers didn't do the

991
00:46:21,893 --> 00:46:23,573
Speaker 2: run up that they had to experience from some of

992
00:46:23,613 --> 00:46:24,173
Speaker 2: their teachers.

993
00:46:27,173 --> 00:46:32,013
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, mad he than Taylor Adams Afternoons.

994
00:46:31,573 --> 00:46:34,573
Speaker 2: Call, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth Talk said, be.

995
00:46:37,053 --> 00:46:40,053
Speaker 3: Sixteen past two. Some more kids are quitting school early.

996
00:46:40,093 --> 00:46:42,252
Speaker 3: Should we make them stay longer? That is the question?

997
00:46:42,293 --> 00:46:42,333
Speaker 18: No.

998
00:46:42,413 --> 00:46:45,013
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty penny.

999
00:46:44,773 --> 00:46:47,333
Speaker 2: Welcome to show. You have have two sons that left

1000
00:46:47,453 --> 00:46:49,093
Speaker 2: after NZEA.

1001
00:46:48,653 --> 00:46:53,732
Speaker 23: One, Yes they did. Are they going doing really well?

1002
00:46:53,853 --> 00:46:57,613
Speaker 23: The oldest is now twenty five. He was a bit

1003
00:46:57,693 --> 00:47:01,453
Speaker 23: easier when he reaped up to school in his sport

1004
00:47:01,573 --> 00:47:04,293
Speaker 23: and did he was just sweeping the falls, and they

1005
00:47:04,373 --> 00:47:06,093
Speaker 23: got them because they he was quite talented, and they've

1006
00:47:06,093 --> 00:47:07,853
Speaker 23: got him doing a lot of different jobs. And then

1007
00:47:08,093 --> 00:47:11,693
Speaker 23: they'd to him getting a lead to an engineering marine

1008
00:47:11,733 --> 00:47:15,253
Speaker 23: engineering job, and he ended up in apprenticeship as a

1009
00:47:15,293 --> 00:47:20,213
Speaker 23: marine engineer, which he qualified with and he now works

1010
00:47:20,453 --> 00:47:23,253
Speaker 23: in the gold mines and Eka Matilla, so he's an

1011
00:47:23,333 --> 00:47:25,933
Speaker 23: engineer down there and such all the equipment.

1012
00:47:26,213 --> 00:47:28,573
Speaker 21: So what was done very well for himselves.

1013
00:47:28,653 --> 00:47:31,973
Speaker 2: What led him to leave school after ncee A was that?

1014
00:47:32,853 --> 00:47:33,773
Speaker 2: Was that driven by him?

1015
00:47:34,893 --> 00:47:37,093
Speaker 23: It was, Yeah, he was very bored and I said

1016
00:47:37,133 --> 00:47:39,692
Speaker 23: to him, well, if you're going to be bored, you're

1017
00:47:39,693 --> 00:47:41,973
Speaker 23: going to have to find something to keep your mind occupied.

1018
00:47:42,053 --> 00:47:44,813
Speaker 23: And engineering was one of those things that had to

1019
00:47:44,853 --> 00:47:48,293
Speaker 23: think on the spot and calculate. And you know, he

1020
00:47:48,413 --> 00:47:50,853
Speaker 23: was very good at engineering when he was at Nelson Boys.

1021
00:47:50,853 --> 00:47:53,453
Speaker 23: He's quite clever at doing things like that. So it

1022
00:47:53,573 --> 00:47:56,133
Speaker 23: was just a natural progression really that that's what he

1023
00:47:56,253 --> 00:47:56,773
Speaker 23: wanted to do.

1024
00:47:59,173 --> 00:48:01,853
Speaker 3: School now some college to my alma mater there you go.

1025
00:48:02,173 --> 00:48:05,493
Speaker 23: Yeah, and the youngest one, the youngest son, he's just

1026
00:48:05,733 --> 00:48:09,893
Speaker 23: twenty and he was the same We went through lockdown

1027
00:48:09,973 --> 00:48:12,373
Speaker 23: and everything, and it was really difficult time for honey.

1028
00:48:12,413 --> 00:48:15,293
Speaker 23: They didn't cope with the schooling it all. I was

1029
00:48:15,333 --> 00:48:17,493
Speaker 23: trying to teach him and it was just you know,

1030
00:48:17,533 --> 00:48:19,853
Speaker 23: and we were at that stage we'd moved to Marlbourne,

1031
00:48:19,893 --> 00:48:23,053
Speaker 23: we were living quite remotely, so it was quite difficult

1032
00:48:23,613 --> 00:48:26,053
Speaker 23: and he just didn't he just didn't like going to school.

1033
00:48:26,093 --> 00:48:27,293
Speaker 23: And I said, well, you're going to have to get

1034
00:48:27,333 --> 00:48:29,973
Speaker 23: a decent job. You're not going on the doll And

1035
00:48:30,613 --> 00:48:34,533
Speaker 23: he just walked into a construction company and did that

1036
00:48:34,693 --> 00:48:38,373
Speaker 23: for three years. And he's left there and he's at

1037
00:48:38,413 --> 00:48:43,693
Speaker 23: politics doing a mechanical qualification and he's just landed himself

1038
00:48:43,773 --> 00:48:48,093
Speaker 23: a diesel mechanic job as an apprentice. Next well, we

1039
00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:49,853
Speaker 23: could start at the end of this year, but he's

1040
00:48:49,853 --> 00:48:52,133
Speaker 23: got a contract and everything this week to start that.

1041
00:48:52,453 --> 00:48:55,453
Speaker 2: So that's good. How much anger is he then the

1042
00:48:55,693 --> 00:48:59,773
Speaker 2: other brother that left in that years apart, because because

1043
00:48:59,933 --> 00:49:03,533
Speaker 2: just listening to you know, people talking about the top

1044
00:49:03,573 --> 00:49:05,973
Speaker 2: of the said, having a mentor that's done it before

1045
00:49:06,173 --> 00:49:09,613
Speaker 2: is a big part of people feeling bold enough to

1046
00:49:09,693 --> 00:49:11,013
Speaker 2: do it. So do you think the fact that your

1047
00:49:11,173 --> 00:49:13,973
Speaker 2: eldest son had already gone through it and it had

1048
00:49:14,053 --> 00:49:16,573
Speaker 2: left early and it had been successful. Do you think

1049
00:49:16,733 --> 00:49:19,493
Speaker 2: that made it more easier for you to deal with

1050
00:49:19,573 --> 00:49:21,732
Speaker 2: it for the younger son and easier for the younger

1051
00:49:21,813 --> 00:49:23,413
Speaker 2: son to make that decision.

1052
00:49:24,213 --> 00:49:24,773
Speaker 17: I think so.

1053
00:49:25,053 --> 00:49:25,252
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1054
00:49:25,373 --> 00:49:27,172
Speaker 23: So you know, like the twenty five year old, now

1055
00:49:27,613 --> 00:49:30,133
Speaker 23: he brought his first house at twenty two, so he

1056
00:49:30,653 --> 00:49:32,893
Speaker 23: you know, I mean it's pretty rare for kids, and

1057
00:49:34,933 --> 00:49:37,093
Speaker 23: him and his partner only been together very very short time,

1058
00:49:37,173 --> 00:49:38,933
Speaker 23: but they had enough to sort of go on with

1059
00:49:39,053 --> 00:49:42,693
Speaker 23: a thirty thirty five percent posit and still had savings. So,

1060
00:49:43,373 --> 00:49:45,573
Speaker 23: you know, for kids at that age, at this time,

1061
00:49:46,333 --> 00:49:48,493
Speaker 23: the stage in their lives has done very very well.

1062
00:49:48,613 --> 00:49:48,773
Speaker 17: You know.

1063
00:49:49,493 --> 00:49:52,213
Speaker 23: Yeah, they're just clever kids, you know what I mean,

1064
00:49:52,253 --> 00:49:55,213
Speaker 23: They're smart. But going to school, it was just like

1065
00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:58,013
Speaker 23: I was having to wring all texts to say he's

1066
00:49:58,013 --> 00:49:59,333
Speaker 23: sick again, he's sick again.

1067
00:50:00,573 --> 00:50:04,212
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Penny, and congratulations on bringing up such

1068
00:50:04,613 --> 00:50:05,533
Speaker 2: fine young men.

1069
00:50:05,733 --> 00:50:06,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliantly.

1070
00:50:06,453 --> 00:50:08,973
Speaker 2: We are air hearing a lot of people ringing and

1071
00:50:09,053 --> 00:50:11,253
Speaker 2: saying it was a disaster, no leaving a.

1072
00:50:11,293 --> 00:50:14,013
Speaker 3: Lot of success for the early school leavers, which is great,

1073
00:50:14,933 --> 00:50:17,373
Speaker 3: But there is a text like this one that's just

1074
00:50:17,413 --> 00:50:19,653
Speaker 3: come through giddy guys. My child left school at fifteen

1075
00:50:19,893 --> 00:50:22,333
Speaker 3: and went into full time work at a fish factory,

1076
00:50:22,453 --> 00:50:25,053
Speaker 3: earned very good money, but now regrets getting into work

1077
00:50:25,093 --> 00:50:27,493
Speaker 3: at such an early age before he really knew what

1078
00:50:27,613 --> 00:50:29,172
Speaker 3: he wanted to do. Now he's going back to unit

1079
00:50:29,213 --> 00:50:31,732
Speaker 3: at the age of twenty seven to study medicine. All

1080
00:50:31,893 --> 00:50:35,293
Speaker 3: kind of worked out, but he feels like he wasted

1081
00:50:35,333 --> 00:50:37,212
Speaker 3: his time for the last ten years.

1082
00:50:37,693 --> 00:50:40,813
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so there is that side as well. Yeah,

1083
00:50:40,853 --> 00:50:43,533
Speaker 2: you got to keep moving forward. You know when my

1084
00:50:43,613 --> 00:50:45,293
Speaker 2: son was suggesting he was going to do a gap year,

1085
00:50:45,333 --> 00:50:47,093
Speaker 2: and I was like, a gap year can't be a

1086
00:50:47,173 --> 00:50:50,013
Speaker 2: do nothing here. It has to be otherwise you'll slip

1087
00:50:50,053 --> 00:50:53,053
Speaker 2: behind your friends. Yep, and he ended up not taking it.

1088
00:50:53,613 --> 00:50:56,613
Speaker 2: Get Rid of Year thirteen High School says the text

1089
00:50:56,653 --> 00:50:59,853
Speaker 2: a focus should be on teaching more about life skills.

1090
00:50:59,933 --> 00:51:05,293
Speaker 2: He g Help kids trades, financial management or other programs

1091
00:51:05,333 --> 00:51:09,013
Speaker 2: such as military options, help kids with scholarship further education.

1092
00:51:09,373 --> 00:51:10,973
Speaker 2: Get Rid of your thirteen's.

1093
00:51:10,613 --> 00:51:12,773
Speaker 3: Is that text controversial? But we love it?

1094
00:51:13,093 --> 00:51:13,253
Speaker 26: Right?

1095
00:51:13,333 --> 00:51:13,413
Speaker 21: Oh?

1096
00:51:13,453 --> 00:51:16,252
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1097
00:51:17,493 --> 00:51:20,533
Speaker 3: Would raising the school leaving age help or hurt? There

1098
00:51:20,573 --> 00:51:23,053
Speaker 3: has been some calls to raise it to seventeen. How

1099
00:51:23,053 --> 00:51:25,013
Speaker 3: would that impact you? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

1100
00:51:25,053 --> 00:51:26,053
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

1101
00:51:26,173 --> 00:51:26,573
Speaker 8: Coming up.

1102
00:51:27,213 --> 00:51:29,413
Speaker 3: We have a chat with Patrick Drum, he's head master

1103
00:51:29,533 --> 00:51:32,293
Speaker 3: of Mount Albert Grammar School. We'll get his thoughts on

1104
00:51:32,413 --> 00:51:33,213
Speaker 3: this very shortly.

1105
00:51:33,493 --> 00:51:36,493
Speaker 2: And this person supports my calls that being cain was

1106
00:51:36,573 --> 00:51:38,933
Speaker 2: better than getting detentions. Hey, I was exactly the same

1107
00:51:39,173 --> 00:51:41,493
Speaker 2: red detention in the cane. I tell the teacher they

1108
00:51:41,493 --> 00:51:43,133
Speaker 2: would have to pay my bus for you and missing

1109
00:51:43,173 --> 00:51:47,013
Speaker 2: the school bus and I would trade for caine happy days.

1110
00:51:48,693 --> 00:51:50,253
Speaker 2: There was nothing compared to the drug card I was

1111
00:51:50,253 --> 00:51:52,413
Speaker 2: getting at home in a comparison there.

1112
00:51:52,493 --> 00:51:53,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

1113
00:51:53,973 --> 00:51:57,172
Speaker 2: Cord. Jeez jeez, that is the wooden spoons one thing,

1114
00:51:57,293 --> 00:51:58,133
Speaker 2: the bout's one thing.

1115
00:51:58,213 --> 00:52:00,732
Speaker 3: The jug cord had the whipping action. Yeah, you don't

1116
00:52:00,733 --> 00:52:00,973
Speaker 3: want that.

1117
00:52:01,693 --> 00:52:02,573
Speaker 2: That's a lot to deal with.

1118
00:52:02,773 --> 00:52:05,293
Speaker 3: That is tough, right, Patrick Drum, head master of Mount

1119
00:52:05,333 --> 00:52:07,973
Speaker 3: Albert Grammar School. Are coming up very shortly. It's twenty

1120
00:52:07,973 --> 00:52:08,573
Speaker 3: one past too.

1121
00:52:12,493 --> 00:52:15,893
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1122
00:52:15,933 --> 00:52:17,573
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news talks.

1123
00:52:17,773 --> 00:52:19,732
Speaker 3: Be for a good afternoon to you. It's twenty four

1124
00:52:19,813 --> 00:52:22,533
Speaker 3: past two. More students are leaving school early, so should

1125
00:52:22,573 --> 00:52:24,973
Speaker 3: we make them stay longer and increase the leaving age

1126
00:52:25,013 --> 00:52:28,253
Speaker 3: to seventeen. Patrick Drummer is the headmaster of Mount Albert

1127
00:52:28,293 --> 00:52:30,533
Speaker 3: Grammar School. He's a good man and he joins us

1128
00:52:30,693 --> 00:52:33,373
Speaker 3: on the line. Now, Patrick, very good afternoon to you.

1129
00:52:34,173 --> 00:52:36,013
Speaker 13: Good afternoon, how are you very good?

1130
00:52:36,093 --> 00:52:38,293
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. So we've just seen the

1131
00:52:38,373 --> 00:52:41,413
Speaker 2: highest number of early leaving exemptions since two thousand and seven.

1132
00:52:41,453 --> 00:52:43,732
Speaker 2: What do you think is driving more fifteen year olds

1133
00:52:43,773 --> 00:52:44,453
Speaker 2: to leave school?

1134
00:52:44,533 --> 00:52:48,373
Speaker 27: Patrick, Well, it's interestingly I've just really come across that

1135
00:52:48,573 --> 00:52:51,333
Speaker 27: story today as well. I suppose like everyone else, but

1136
00:52:51,773 --> 00:52:53,773
Speaker 27: I suppose on to look at the actual number. It's

1137
00:52:54,013 --> 00:52:55,893
Speaker 27: a it's not a huge number when you think of

1138
00:52:55,973 --> 00:52:59,893
Speaker 27: the number of secondary student students we have in the country, right,

1139
00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:02,333
Speaker 27: I think we've got something like two fifty three hundred

1140
00:53:02,373 --> 00:53:05,013
Speaker 27: thousand students, So it's a it's a real drop in

1141
00:53:05,053 --> 00:53:07,813
Speaker 27: the bucket there. I suppose from my perspective, without having

1142
00:53:07,893 --> 00:53:11,373
Speaker 27: dug two deep into the into the numbers or behind

1143
00:53:11,613 --> 00:53:14,812
Speaker 27: the stats, there is that if these youngsters are heading

1144
00:53:14,893 --> 00:53:20,253
Speaker 27: into purposeful post secondary environment work further study, I mean,

1145
00:53:20,293 --> 00:53:22,133
Speaker 27: that's really it's a real good news story. I mean,

1146
00:53:22,213 --> 00:53:25,093
Speaker 27: one of the big concerns we've had is across the

1147
00:53:25,133 --> 00:53:28,013
Speaker 27: country of students who are leaving without a qualification and

1148
00:53:28,133 --> 00:53:32,373
Speaker 27: then and they're not continuing any employment or training at all.

1149
00:53:32,613 --> 00:53:35,453
Speaker 27: And that's probably a much bigger concern. That's that's in

1150
00:53:35,653 --> 00:53:37,013
Speaker 27: the many thousands of students.

1151
00:53:37,693 --> 00:53:40,253
Speaker 2: What are kids and parents have to do, like admin

1152
00:53:40,373 --> 00:53:42,893
Speaker 2: wise with the school if their kids want to leave

1153
00:53:42,933 --> 00:53:45,213
Speaker 2: at fifteen, they can't just not turn up. They have

1154
00:53:45,333 --> 00:53:46,813
Speaker 2: to organize this things.

1155
00:53:46,933 --> 00:53:49,093
Speaker 27: Right, Well, I'll be in trouble if they don't turn up,

1156
00:53:49,653 --> 00:53:52,573
Speaker 27: but yeah, you're right. Look, they need to go through

1157
00:53:52,573 --> 00:53:54,652
Speaker 27: a process with the Ministry of Education and they're sort

1158
00:53:54,653 --> 00:53:56,493
Speaker 27: of a vetting process there and it'll come to the

1159
00:53:56,573 --> 00:54:00,733
Speaker 27: school for our opinion and our support for that, and

1160
00:54:00,893 --> 00:54:03,933
Speaker 27: with usually we put down some potential reasons why that

1161
00:54:04,093 --> 00:54:07,413
Speaker 27: might be. I mean, this is quite these are exceptional cases.

1162
00:54:07,493 --> 00:54:10,213
Speaker 27: It's not on a it's not a wide scale or

1163
00:54:11,293 --> 00:54:14,773
Speaker 27: you know, occurrence at all. And then it goes back

1164
00:54:14,813 --> 00:54:16,853
Speaker 27: to the Ministry and it's approved and those students can

1165
00:54:17,053 --> 00:54:18,533
Speaker 27: leave school before sixteen.

1166
00:54:19,373 --> 00:54:21,853
Speaker 3: So there's already been talk of increasing the leaving age

1167
00:54:21,893 --> 00:54:24,133
Speaker 3: to seventeen. Patrick, how would you feel about that? Would

1168
00:54:24,173 --> 00:54:28,853
Speaker 3: that be counterintuitive to ensuring fifteen sixteen year olds actually

1169
00:54:28,973 --> 00:54:31,973
Speaker 3: go on to better education if they decide to leave.

1170
00:54:32,813 --> 00:54:35,453
Speaker 27: Yeah, well, I think it's what they are doing if

1171
00:54:35,493 --> 00:54:38,053
Speaker 27: they are going to leave. So I think the staying

1172
00:54:38,253 --> 00:54:41,213
Speaker 27: at school, the incentive to stay at school obviously is

1173
00:54:41,293 --> 00:54:44,613
Speaker 27: the ideal, but you know it's not for everyone in

1174
00:54:44,773 --> 00:54:47,493
Speaker 27: terms of what different schools offer. You know, you've got

1175
00:54:47,533 --> 00:54:50,893
Speaker 27: to go to your local school zone school, and that's

1176
00:54:50,933 --> 00:54:53,573
Speaker 27: the rules law we have that school may not be

1177
00:54:53,693 --> 00:54:57,773
Speaker 27: totally suitable for a student. So, you know, raising the

1178
00:54:57,813 --> 00:55:00,053
Speaker 27: age of seventeen I think as aspirational. I think it's

1179
00:55:00,053 --> 00:55:03,613
Speaker 27: a good signal that we value more learning is better.

1180
00:55:04,253 --> 00:55:07,653
Speaker 27: But again, if those students aren't staying to seventeen, we

1181
00:55:07,773 --> 00:55:09,733
Speaker 27: need to know where they're going because if they're just

1182
00:55:09,853 --> 00:55:12,893
Speaker 27: going out to a pretty bleak future, you know, we

1183
00:55:13,213 --> 00:55:14,573
Speaker 27: pay for that, don't we Down the track?

1184
00:55:15,533 --> 00:55:17,493
Speaker 2: What do kids miss out? Do you think they miss something?

1185
00:55:17,573 --> 00:55:21,413
Speaker 2: Miss something even if it's you know, jumping off before

1186
00:55:21,613 --> 00:55:25,333
Speaker 2: year thirteen? Do they miss something in terms of development

1187
00:55:25,493 --> 00:55:28,573
Speaker 2: and I know, socializing and you know what the school

1188
00:55:28,573 --> 00:55:29,053
Speaker 2: has to offer.

1189
00:55:30,093 --> 00:55:33,133
Speaker 27: Well, I think there's huge opportunities as you move through

1190
00:55:33,173 --> 00:55:36,533
Speaker 27: a school into the senior school. You know what, if

1191
00:55:36,573 --> 00:55:38,653
Speaker 27: you're engaged in your school, there.

1192
00:55:38,373 --> 00:55:39,373
Speaker 2: Are incredible opportunities.

1193
00:55:39,373 --> 00:55:43,293
Speaker 27: There's leadership opportunities, there's the mentoring of the younger students.

1194
00:55:44,693 --> 00:55:48,173
Speaker 27: The relationship of a school with it senior students evolves,

1195
00:55:48,213 --> 00:55:51,373
Speaker 27: doesn't it. We handle our year nine students a little

1196
00:55:51,373 --> 00:55:54,373
Speaker 27: bit different than we might our year twelve and thirteen students,

1197
00:55:54,413 --> 00:55:56,493
Speaker 27: and that's just a part of the school. I really

1198
00:55:56,573 --> 00:55:59,853
Speaker 27: enjoy is watching students grow and develop and mature through

1199
00:55:59,893 --> 00:56:02,252
Speaker 27: the system. And you know they are they are great

1200
00:56:02,373 --> 00:56:04,493
Speaker 27: young adults by the time they are leaving school. So

1201
00:56:05,133 --> 00:56:08,653
Speaker 27: ideally you'd want everyone to experience that and have the

1202
00:56:08,733 --> 00:56:11,293
Speaker 27: confidence then to be successful at school and then go

1203
00:56:11,373 --> 00:56:12,933
Speaker 27: on to those next stages afterwards.

1204
00:56:13,333 --> 00:56:14,573
Speaker 2: Well, it's a testament to you that you want to

1205
00:56:14,653 --> 00:56:17,413
Speaker 2: keep them right through to year thirteen. Considering how absolutely

1206
00:56:17,573 --> 00:56:20,933
Speaker 2: rammed Mount Albert Grammar is with people, you could use

1207
00:56:20,973 --> 00:56:21,693
Speaker 2: the space, couldn't you.

1208
00:56:22,653 --> 00:56:24,893
Speaker 27: Well that's right, but I mean, you know, that's our job,

1209
00:56:24,933 --> 00:56:27,413
Speaker 27: that's our business, and you know, we'd like to see

1210
00:56:27,453 --> 00:56:31,093
Speaker 27: everyone come right through from year nine to thirteen, do

1211
00:56:31,213 --> 00:56:34,173
Speaker 27: five years of secondary education and then kick on strongly

1212
00:56:34,253 --> 00:56:34,573
Speaker 27: after that.

1213
00:56:35,173 --> 00:56:38,133
Speaker 2: Now, Patrick drum Headmaster of Mount Abut Grahmam. You might

1214
00:56:38,173 --> 00:56:39,933
Speaker 2: not want a weigh on this. This is a weigh

1215
00:56:39,973 --> 00:56:41,813
Speaker 2: in on this. This is a secondary topic that I've

1216
00:56:41,853 --> 00:56:44,133
Speaker 2: been talking about. What do you say to people like

1217
00:56:44,213 --> 00:56:46,293
Speaker 2: me who claim this is going back in time that

1218
00:56:46,413 --> 00:56:48,813
Speaker 2: the cane was better than detention because you didn't miss

1219
00:56:48,853 --> 00:56:49,973
Speaker 2: the bus home with the cane.

1220
00:56:51,853 --> 00:56:55,533
Speaker 27: You're setting me up here, aren't you. I was probably

1221
00:56:55,533 --> 00:56:58,893
Speaker 27: at the school, probably earlier than you at my own schooling,

1222
00:56:58,933 --> 00:57:01,533
Speaker 27: I suppose, so I know what you're talking about. But no, Look,

1223
00:57:01,813 --> 00:57:04,772
Speaker 27: Will's moved on. We've got to find other ways.

1224
00:57:05,493 --> 00:57:05,653
Speaker 26: You know.

1225
00:57:05,693 --> 00:57:08,133
Speaker 27: We haven't got a great record on some of our

1226
00:57:08,333 --> 00:57:12,973
Speaker 27: solutions in terms of physical solutions to things in our communities,

1227
00:57:12,973 --> 00:57:14,373
Speaker 27: and I think we need to model let at school,

1228
00:57:14,413 --> 00:57:17,733
Speaker 27: these other ways to solve problems and get the result

1229
00:57:17,813 --> 00:57:20,973
Speaker 27: we want rather than I think the cane's head its

1230
00:57:21,013 --> 00:57:21,693
Speaker 27: day put it that way.

1231
00:57:22,813 --> 00:57:24,053
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm getting a lot of sport and

1232
00:57:24,173 --> 00:57:27,533
Speaker 2: bringing it back partly from my attention is working pretty well.

1233
00:57:27,773 --> 00:57:29,893
Speaker 3: Hey, Patrick, really good to catch up with you. Thank

1234
00:57:29,973 --> 00:57:32,053
Speaker 3: you so much for your time and we'll talk down

1235
00:57:32,093 --> 00:57:34,493
Speaker 3: the track. Great to check all the business mate, Yeah,

1236
00:57:34,493 --> 00:57:37,133
Speaker 3: thank you. That is Patrick drum head master at Mounts

1237
00:57:37,213 --> 00:57:39,733
Speaker 3: Albert Grammar. I've got to say there has any there's

1238
00:57:39,773 --> 00:57:41,413
Speaker 3: been an email that's come in on the old caning

1239
00:57:41,493 --> 00:57:44,493
Speaker 3: match and it sees the cane hurts, but it's over

1240
00:57:44,573 --> 00:57:48,173
Speaker 3: and done. Detention takes longer, less pain, but still a

1241
00:57:48,213 --> 00:57:50,813
Speaker 3: pain doing it done both. I don't know what I

1242
00:57:50,933 --> 00:57:52,973
Speaker 3: prefer from Bob right down the middle.

1243
00:57:53,093 --> 00:57:55,093
Speaker 2: Caning not so much when you had creepy teachers who

1244
00:57:55,093 --> 00:57:57,253
Speaker 2: would put their hand down the back of your shorts

1245
00:57:57,333 --> 00:58:00,133
Speaker 2: to check for patting. All right, okay, well there's a

1246
00:58:00,173 --> 00:58:03,013
Speaker 2: different all right, Yeah, no, nobody wants that totally different.

1247
00:58:03,173 --> 00:58:07,453
Speaker 3: Certainly not all right. It is hard pass too. We've

1248
00:58:07,493 --> 00:58:10,253
Speaker 3: got plenty of teas coming through, but headlines coming up

1249
00:58:10,333 --> 00:58:12,573
Speaker 3: with Jody. But if you want to send a text through,

1250
00:58:12,653 --> 00:58:14,573
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two and oh one hundred eighty ten

1251
00:58:14,613 --> 00:58:15,933
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

1252
00:58:18,813 --> 00:58:22,293
Speaker 11: You talk said be headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's

1253
00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:25,973
Speaker 11: no trouble worth a blue bubble Police are formally closing

1254
00:58:26,053 --> 00:58:29,333
Speaker 11: the operation to track down futitive Tom Phillips and his

1255
00:58:29,573 --> 00:58:33,173
Speaker 11: children and opening a new one focusing on identifying people

1256
00:58:33,253 --> 00:58:35,093
Speaker 11: who have been assisting him.

1257
00:58:35,853 --> 00:58:39,013
Speaker 28: The Court of Appeals rule Scott Watson has not suffered

1258
00:58:39,053 --> 00:58:42,853
Speaker 28: a miscarriage of justice, upholding his convictions for murdering Olivia

1259
00:58:42,973 --> 00:58:46,493
Speaker 28: Hope and Ben Smart. His father, Chris Watson, describes it

1260
00:58:46,613 --> 00:58:49,933
Speaker 28: as a hatchet job on his son. A teacher of

1261
00:58:50,013 --> 00:58:53,213
Speaker 28: the two children allegedly murdered by their mother and put

1262
00:58:53,293 --> 00:58:57,173
Speaker 28: into suitcases has paid them an emotional tribute in court,

1263
00:58:57,493 --> 00:59:01,533
Speaker 28: describing them as bubbly and well behaved. Hargung Lee's trial

1264
00:59:01,693 --> 00:59:05,013
Speaker 28: is continuing at the High Court at Auckland. Thirty three

1265
00:59:05,093 --> 00:59:07,213
Speaker 28: schools across the country are in line for a three

1266
00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:11,973
Speaker 28: hundred million dollar upgrade with replacement classrooms, resource spaces and

1267
00:59:12,173 --> 00:59:16,333
Speaker 28: quake strengthening. Snow's affecting parts of the South Island, including

1268
00:59:16,413 --> 00:59:21,133
Speaker 28: closing State Highway seventy three from or THEA to Arthur's Pass.

1269
00:59:21,733 --> 00:59:27,493
Speaker 28: Guilty until proven innocent. Government announcers plans for new shoplifting offense.

1270
00:59:27,813 --> 00:59:30,973
Speaker 28: Find out more at endzed Herald Premium. Now back to

1271
00:59:31,133 --> 00:59:32,733
Speaker 28: Matt Heath and Tyler Adam.

1272
00:59:32,813 --> 00:59:35,013
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Jody. It is twenty six to three,

1273
00:59:35,133 --> 00:59:37,373
Speaker 3: so if the school leaving age went up to seventeen,

1274
00:59:37,453 --> 00:59:39,373
Speaker 3: how would that affect you and your household? I one

1275
00:59:39,413 --> 00:59:40,493
Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen eighties.

1276
00:59:40,253 --> 00:59:40,773
Speaker 5: A number four.

1277
00:59:40,973 --> 00:59:44,053
Speaker 2: Ben, you left to school at fourteen, So how you

1278
00:59:44,093 --> 00:59:44,773
Speaker 2: played the drums?

1279
00:59:45,773 --> 00:59:48,413
Speaker 13: I just banging out of stanging out a bit of

1280
00:59:48,453 --> 00:59:50,173
Speaker 13: a bit of a Jill Appe.

1281
00:59:52,093 --> 00:59:52,493
Speaker 3: Good man.

1282
00:59:53,813 --> 00:59:56,333
Speaker 13: Look, I was going to I was going to pass

1283
00:59:56,333 --> 01:00:00,413
Speaker 13: the metalwork, woodwork, music. I was going to fould everything else.

1284
01:00:01,733 --> 01:00:04,013
Speaker 13: I got booted out of a lot of schools and

1285
01:00:04,293 --> 01:00:10,133
Speaker 13: I made it two weeks, two weeks and too formed

1286
01:00:10,173 --> 01:00:13,413
Speaker 13: four and that was the end of it. They just

1287
01:00:13,493 --> 01:00:15,573
Speaker 13: put pain and my parents signed me out. I've got

1288
01:00:15,573 --> 01:00:21,933
Speaker 13: an exemption and I become a joiner, timber joiner.

1289
01:00:24,373 --> 01:00:26,093
Speaker 2: And so someone took you on did you have Was

1290
01:00:26,133 --> 01:00:28,373
Speaker 2: that a connection that you had or you know, how

1291
01:00:28,453 --> 01:00:29,813
Speaker 2: did you sort that out? Ben?

1292
01:00:31,813 --> 01:00:31,853
Speaker 18: No?

1293
01:00:32,173 --> 01:00:35,893
Speaker 13: I ended up applying for a job and a paper,

1294
01:00:35,973 --> 01:00:39,613
Speaker 13: and yeah, I got the job. Just passionate. I was

1295
01:00:39,653 --> 01:00:45,093
Speaker 13: building tree huts and skateboard rents and motorbike jumps all

1296
01:00:45,173 --> 01:00:47,813
Speaker 13: day long as good child out in the farm. It

1297
01:00:47,933 --> 01:00:50,253
Speaker 13: was just it was just decing to be. But you know,

1298
01:00:50,293 --> 01:00:55,373
Speaker 13: I'm standing here now in the biggest think joining the

1299
01:00:55,413 --> 01:00:59,773
Speaker 13: company in the South Island, and I'm just working on

1300
01:00:59,973 --> 01:01:06,733
Speaker 13: a university and I just finished the Hospital Hospital, Greymouth

1301
01:01:06,773 --> 01:01:12,333
Speaker 13: Hospital Convention Center. Yeah, and I still love it, you know,

1302
01:01:12,413 --> 01:01:16,853
Speaker 13: like I'm over thirty years and and I just I

1303
01:01:16,933 --> 01:01:19,973
Speaker 13: still love it, man, Like, yeah, just.

1304
01:01:21,173 --> 01:01:24,533
Speaker 2: I mean you were a very practical person though, right,

1305
01:01:24,693 --> 01:01:27,733
Speaker 2: So you leaving kind of made sense, didn't it because

1306
01:01:27,773 --> 01:01:30,053
Speaker 2: you wanted to use your hands, and you were talented

1307
01:01:30,093 --> 01:01:33,253
Speaker 2: in that way. Yeah, as opposed to just leaving because

1308
01:01:33,253 --> 01:01:34,653
Speaker 2: you can't be bother getting out of bed in the

1309
01:01:34,693 --> 01:01:35,493
Speaker 2: morning to go to school.

1310
01:01:37,893 --> 01:01:39,293
Speaker 13: There was a bit of that when I was younger,

1311
01:01:39,333 --> 01:01:41,933
Speaker 13: and then I went to that stage of having the

1312
01:01:42,093 --> 01:01:47,173
Speaker 13: days off snowboarding and when I was apparently sick, but no,

1313
01:01:47,373 --> 01:01:53,613
Speaker 13: look I missed it. It's funny because this is the

1314
01:01:53,693 --> 01:01:58,613
Speaker 13: biggest part of this job is mathematics, and yeah, I

1315
01:01:58,893 --> 01:02:01,493
Speaker 13: do struggle with that. I've gotten better as time goes

1316
01:02:01,533 --> 01:02:05,733
Speaker 13: on to help me out, and evident goes through a calculator,

1317
01:02:05,813 --> 01:02:10,453
Speaker 13: so that would have helped. But yet that's that did

1318
01:02:10,533 --> 01:02:13,293
Speaker 13: me wonders as far as sitting the old tech again.

1319
01:02:13,093 --> 01:02:14,333
Speaker 3: And learning that makes you sure?

1320
01:02:15,453 --> 01:02:17,813
Speaker 13: So yeah, and the downside, so it was too when

1321
01:02:17,853 --> 01:02:20,533
Speaker 13: I left that age, all my mates from school, you know,

1322
01:02:20,853 --> 01:02:22,693
Speaker 13: we were still kicking around. But I always had money,

1323
01:02:22,773 --> 01:02:24,333
Speaker 13: so I had the smokes, and I always had all

1324
01:02:24,373 --> 01:02:27,573
Speaker 13: that and they never had none, and so it was

1325
01:02:27,613 --> 01:02:28,933
Speaker 13: just hard to keep up with. There, there was a

1326
01:02:28,973 --> 01:02:31,853
Speaker 13: bit of a downside. And yeah, just the times i'd

1327
01:02:31,893 --> 01:02:33,853
Speaker 13: finished working, the times i'd finished school.

1328
01:02:34,093 --> 01:02:37,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, so as a young fellow, you answered the ad

1329
01:02:37,253 --> 01:02:39,573
Speaker 3: and the paper and went down to the joinery business

1330
01:02:39,653 --> 01:02:41,893
Speaker 3: and said, I'd quite like a job. What did they do?

1331
01:02:42,013 --> 01:02:43,693
Speaker 3: Did they put you through their paces or was it

1332
01:02:43,773 --> 01:02:45,573
Speaker 3: a bit easier back then for a fourteen year old

1333
01:02:45,573 --> 01:02:46,333
Speaker 3: to get a looking.

1334
01:02:47,813 --> 01:02:50,093
Speaker 13: They threw me in the deep ense and I only

1335
01:02:50,133 --> 01:02:52,173
Speaker 13: had There was only two old boys. There was a

1336
01:02:52,213 --> 01:02:55,333
Speaker 13: bossco and another old falla they and then there was meat.

1337
01:02:56,053 --> 01:02:58,213
Speaker 13: And yeah, I started at the at the bottom of there,

1338
01:02:58,253 --> 01:03:00,453
Speaker 13: had to go make the coffees. They do the dash

1339
01:03:00,493 --> 01:03:03,213
Speaker 13: down of the shop to get the milk. And I

1340
01:03:03,333 --> 01:03:05,093
Speaker 13: did do a bit of I started out in a

1341
01:03:05,213 --> 01:03:08,733
Speaker 13: demolition yard as an after school job when I was

1342
01:03:08,813 --> 01:03:15,013
Speaker 13: getting to still and denailing bricks, sorry, delaiming timber and

1343
01:03:15,773 --> 01:03:19,853
Speaker 13: cleaning bricks on contracts, and so I did have a

1344
01:03:19,933 --> 01:03:22,053
Speaker 13: bit of I guess that's going to help me get

1345
01:03:22,213 --> 01:03:24,053
Speaker 13: getting my foot in the door, because I could see that, hey,

1346
01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:28,533
Speaker 13: I was keen and player boys swinging a hammer. So yeah,

1347
01:03:28,893 --> 01:03:32,173
Speaker 13: but yeah, yeah, like I went through all the stages

1348
01:03:32,213 --> 01:03:34,733
Speaker 13: of breaking and making a lot of mistakes and breaking

1349
01:03:34,733 --> 01:03:36,573
Speaker 13: a lot of stuff when I was still in my apprenticeship.

1350
01:03:36,653 --> 01:03:40,453
Speaker 13: But yeah, we had one corner of the workshop, all

1351
01:03:40,493 --> 01:03:43,293
Speaker 13: those spits and pieces. They were called it the casualty corner.

1352
01:03:44,453 --> 01:03:47,933
Speaker 13: So it was just yeah, yeah, but not looking back

1353
01:03:47,933 --> 01:03:51,813
Speaker 13: at all and not looking back, and I you know,

1354
01:03:51,853 --> 01:03:53,893
Speaker 13: I'm opening now to my kids doing what they want

1355
01:03:53,933 --> 01:03:57,373
Speaker 13: to do. They know that, yeah, there's no pressure on

1356
01:03:57,493 --> 01:04:00,853
Speaker 13: them to go because I was always told that if

1357
01:04:00,893 --> 01:04:02,453
Speaker 13: I didn't do well at school, I was going to

1358
01:04:02,493 --> 01:04:06,253
Speaker 13: become a ditch digger. And it's funny because those boys

1359
01:04:06,293 --> 01:04:07,293
Speaker 13: are making more money than.

1360
01:04:09,453 --> 01:04:13,013
Speaker 2: It's not quite saying thread. It used to be, hey,

1361
01:04:13,053 --> 01:04:15,613
Speaker 2: thank you girl, beIN appreciate it and you go well

1362
01:04:15,653 --> 01:04:17,693
Speaker 2: out there, so it's awesome that you're loving your job.

1363
01:04:17,693 --> 01:04:20,253
Speaker 2: It's funny he talks about getting the coffees because I remember,

1364
01:04:20,413 --> 01:04:23,533
Speaker 2: I think still in my entire career, the most stressful

1365
01:04:23,613 --> 01:04:26,693
Speaker 2: job I've ever had to do is when I got

1366
01:04:26,773 --> 01:04:28,573
Speaker 2: a moved talking and got a job as a runner

1367
01:04:28,813 --> 01:04:31,693
Speaker 2: on a for a television production company, and I had

1368
01:04:31,733 --> 01:04:35,613
Speaker 2: to get the subway order for everyone. Yeah, for seventeen people.

1369
01:04:35,653 --> 01:04:36,653
Speaker 3: You don't want to make that up.

1370
01:04:36,973 --> 01:04:39,253
Speaker 2: Very complicated, you're very scared. There's still the most complicated

1371
01:04:39,293 --> 01:04:43,333
Speaker 2: a thing but I've ever done. But Steven Spielbeerg once said,

1372
01:04:43,373 --> 01:04:45,413
Speaker 2: if you can't get a coffee order right, you might

1373
01:04:45,493 --> 01:04:48,053
Speaker 2: be a great director, but no one will ever find out.

1374
01:04:48,573 --> 01:04:50,453
Speaker 2: Which means the ground you stop at the bottom. When

1375
01:04:50,453 --> 01:04:52,013
Speaker 2: you start at the bottom, you have to show your

1376
01:04:52,053 --> 01:04:54,733
Speaker 2: competency and getting the coffees right when you're seen out

1377
01:04:54,733 --> 01:04:56,373
Speaker 2: to get the coffees right, or getting the subway right

1378
01:04:56,413 --> 01:04:58,133
Speaker 2: when you're seen out to get the subway spot on.

1379
01:04:58,253 --> 01:04:59,573
Speaker 3: And I take it you got the subs right.

1380
01:05:00,133 --> 01:05:05,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, My good fussy meatball. This not no jalapeno?

1381
01:05:05,293 --> 01:05:06,813
Speaker 3: Is that nobody wanted a tuner?

1382
01:05:07,213 --> 01:05:11,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a turn amount in the tuna. I love

1383
01:05:11,293 --> 01:05:11,693
Speaker 2: the tuna.

1384
01:05:11,973 --> 01:05:16,293
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't stand the tuna tuna, tuna, tuna tuna.

1385
01:05:18,653 --> 01:05:20,413
Speaker 3: If you want to correct me, we're used to that

1386
01:05:20,533 --> 01:05:21,173
Speaker 3: by now, right.

1387
01:05:21,613 --> 01:05:24,213
Speaker 2: It doesn't like the tuna with tuna tuna with the

1388
01:05:24,293 --> 01:05:26,933
Speaker 2: ice cream Buddy delivery.

1389
01:05:27,493 --> 01:05:30,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's pre mayoed. I mean is that

1390
01:05:30,493 --> 01:05:34,293
Speaker 3: it's not even real tuna horse meat, right, it's twenty

1391
01:05:34,413 --> 01:05:37,013
Speaker 3: minutes to three oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1392
01:05:37,053 --> 01:05:39,893
Speaker 3: Should it's wrong with horse meat? I think it's pretty tasty,

1393
01:05:39,973 --> 01:05:44,333
Speaker 3: pretty gamy. Should the school leaving age go up to seventeen?

1394
01:05:44,373 --> 01:05:46,413
Speaker 3: What would it mean for your family and your household?

1395
01:05:46,693 --> 01:05:50,493
Speaker 3: It is twenty to three have a chat with the lads.

1396
01:05:50,253 --> 01:05:55,253
Speaker 1: On eighty eighty. Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons used talk.

1397
01:05:55,133 --> 01:05:58,653
Speaker 3: Said, be for a good afternoon, dude, eighteen to three.

1398
01:05:59,133 --> 01:06:01,653
Speaker 3: So there's some thoughts about raising the school leaving age

1399
01:06:01,693 --> 01:06:04,733
Speaker 3: to seventeen? Is that a good idea or too far?

1400
01:06:05,653 --> 01:06:08,693
Speaker 3: Increasing numbers of children leaving school at fifteen and sixteen?

1401
01:06:08,733 --> 01:06:10,213
Speaker 3: But what do you say? Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1402
01:06:10,333 --> 01:06:12,933
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number of call text here? Gooday, guys,

1403
01:06:13,213 --> 01:06:15,213
Speaker 3: great chat? Doesn't this put a bunch of people in

1404
01:06:15,253 --> 01:06:17,573
Speaker 3: the class that either don't want to be there or

1405
01:06:17,653 --> 01:06:20,813
Speaker 3: would be better in another format? This distracts from the

1406
01:06:20,893 --> 01:06:23,053
Speaker 3: people learning, which is a fair point. So that's a text.

1407
01:06:23,133 --> 01:06:26,293
Speaker 3: Who's against the idea of raising the school eving age

1408
01:06:26,333 --> 01:06:26,893
Speaker 3: to seventeen?

1409
01:06:27,453 --> 01:06:29,733
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, like if you look at as Patrick

1410
01:06:29,853 --> 01:06:33,453
Speaker 2: Drum said, one three hundred and seventy six secondary school

1411
01:06:33,493 --> 01:06:37,573
Speaker 2: students were granted nearly the leaving exemption last year. There's

1412
01:06:37,613 --> 01:06:39,613
Speaker 2: about three hundred thousand kids in school.

1413
01:06:39,773 --> 01:06:44,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what's the percentage of that? Zero pointings? Zero two? Gary?

1414
01:06:44,213 --> 01:06:44,533
Speaker 3: How are you?

1415
01:06:45,493 --> 01:06:46,173
Speaker 15: Oh? Good man?

1416
01:06:46,253 --> 01:06:46,573
Speaker 21: Yourself?

1417
01:06:46,653 --> 01:06:47,413
Speaker 19: Great subject?

1418
01:06:48,413 --> 01:06:50,933
Speaker 3: Thank you mate. Now you did you leave early yourself?

1419
01:06:52,893 --> 01:06:53,053
Speaker 21: Well?

1420
01:06:53,093 --> 01:06:54,933
Speaker 19: I left when I was allowed to leave, which was

1421
01:06:54,973 --> 01:06:56,733
Speaker 19: pretty much just a school certificate.

1422
01:06:56,853 --> 01:07:00,093
Speaker 9: But leading up to that, school was.

1423
01:07:00,173 --> 01:07:03,573
Speaker 19: Excellent for eating my lunch and playing my sport. There

1424
01:07:03,613 --> 01:07:06,173
Speaker 19: were classrooms apparently that I was meant to go into

1425
01:07:07,133 --> 01:07:10,253
Speaker 19: that was all cool. So I used to cycle to

1426
01:07:10,373 --> 01:07:13,293
Speaker 19: it from school and passed the building joinery factory. They

1427
01:07:13,333 --> 01:07:16,533
Speaker 19: had a note up there two apprentices wanted. It was

1428
01:07:16,573 --> 01:07:19,093
Speaker 19: about November, and I was like, oh yeah, give that

1429
01:07:19,213 --> 01:07:22,933
Speaker 19: a nudge, and my Woodwick teacher said yeah, but I'll

1430
01:07:22,973 --> 01:07:25,293
Speaker 19: put your name forward and so we did that and

1431
01:07:25,413 --> 01:07:28,093
Speaker 19: they said, yep, you've got the job start in January,

1432
01:07:28,413 --> 01:07:30,493
Speaker 19: but we want you to pass school certificate and I

1433
01:07:30,653 --> 01:07:34,013
Speaker 19: was like, what's that. Okay, yeah, I'll go into the exams.

1434
01:07:34,093 --> 01:07:36,533
Speaker 19: I sat down for my thirty minutes that I had

1435
01:07:36,573 --> 01:07:40,573
Speaker 19: to and sadly I got forty four percent for Woodwick,

1436
01:07:41,013 --> 01:07:43,093
Speaker 19: which means I did write something down.

1437
01:07:43,493 --> 01:07:45,373
Speaker 9: But leaving school.

1438
01:07:45,253 --> 01:07:49,493
Speaker 19: Straight after that starting my building apprenticeship fantastic, loved it.

1439
01:07:50,013 --> 01:07:56,373
Speaker 19: Did all my learning through that, all my reading, writing, literacy, numeracy,

1440
01:07:56,733 --> 01:07:59,573
Speaker 19: picked it all up through my building trade and just

1441
01:07:59,693 --> 01:08:04,613
Speaker 19: smashed it and got top apprentice as well from leaving school,

1442
01:08:05,173 --> 01:08:05,653
Speaker 19: you know, And.

1443
01:08:06,173 --> 01:08:08,933
Speaker 9: It was just it was what I needed to do

1444
01:08:09,493 --> 01:08:10,893
Speaker 9: because school was not for me.

1445
01:08:11,973 --> 01:08:14,573
Speaker 19: I remember the science teacher on a Monday morning saying,

1446
01:08:14,973 --> 01:08:18,213
Speaker 19: haste things to the front of the class anyone else

1447
01:08:18,253 --> 01:08:21,732
Speaker 19: who hasn't done their homework for the cane and because

1448
01:08:21,773 --> 01:08:23,893
Speaker 19: he always knew, and he's like, why do you do that?

1449
01:08:24,133 --> 01:08:26,293
Speaker 19: And I said, well, the canes to be out, I know,

1450
01:08:26,812 --> 01:08:29,253
Speaker 19: two minutes of discomfort and the homework I don't know

1451
01:08:29,293 --> 01:08:30,093
Speaker 19: because I've never done it.

1452
01:08:30,893 --> 01:08:34,932
Speaker 2: So logical was here, I thought?

1453
01:08:35,013 --> 01:08:35,053
Speaker 21: So?

1454
01:08:35,692 --> 01:08:36,692
Speaker 2: Was he a run up cana?

1455
01:08:37,133 --> 01:08:37,293
Speaker 18: You know?

1456
01:08:37,612 --> 01:08:40,253
Speaker 2: Was it was he putting flair into He.

1457
01:08:40,293 --> 01:08:42,452
Speaker 19: Put some good effort into it. I think it was

1458
01:08:42,452 --> 01:08:44,732
Speaker 19: particularly for me. He never did the check go for

1459
01:08:44,853 --> 01:08:49,052
Speaker 19: the bookdown the pants luckily. Yeah, that sounds a bit dodge.

1460
01:08:49,532 --> 01:08:52,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some some some cans that really took

1461
01:08:53,053 --> 01:08:54,973
Speaker 2: pride and there work isn't it interesting to think that

1462
01:08:55,053 --> 01:08:58,532
Speaker 2: there was there was standard issue education department canes and

1463
01:08:58,612 --> 01:09:01,372
Speaker 2: straps that were you could order for the resource room

1464
01:09:01,612 --> 01:09:02,692
Speaker 2: as a teacher back in the day.

1465
01:09:02,812 --> 01:09:04,532
Speaker 25: It's pretty cool what was said.

1466
01:09:04,692 --> 01:09:09,932
Speaker 19: What's changed now though, I think education is is more

1467
01:09:10,053 --> 01:09:14,412
Speaker 19: prevalent in today's environment. Employers are looking for someone who's

1468
01:09:14,772 --> 01:09:17,492
Speaker 19: got a bit of mouse, not just hands on, you know.

1469
01:09:18,293 --> 01:09:21,333
Speaker 19: So I'm still involved in the building trade and teach

1470
01:09:21,452 --> 01:09:25,333
Speaker 19: night classes for groups of new apprentices that coming through,

1471
01:09:25,973 --> 01:09:29,852
Speaker 19: and we do practical and theory elements to it because

1472
01:09:29,893 --> 01:09:31,772
Speaker 19: I can feel their pain that they don't want to

1473
01:09:31,812 --> 01:09:35,133
Speaker 19: sit and do a written exam, so we presented in

1474
01:09:35,253 --> 01:09:39,812
Speaker 19: three different mediums to cover that off for them. But

1475
01:09:39,933 --> 01:09:43,732
Speaker 19: I still feel employers, no matter what, the workers want

1476
01:09:43,812 --> 01:09:46,213
Speaker 19: you to have half a brain at least, you know,

1477
01:09:46,732 --> 01:09:50,812
Speaker 19: so leaving school early, I don't think that's a great idea.

1478
01:09:51,253 --> 01:09:54,893
Speaker 19: I'm for the seventeen bringing it up to seventeen, to

1479
01:09:54,973 --> 01:09:55,572
Speaker 19: be honest.

1480
01:09:55,652 --> 01:09:57,492
Speaker 2: Even though it worked out so well for you.

1481
01:10:00,452 --> 01:10:03,293
Speaker 19: Yeah, probably a little bit of exception to the rule.

1482
01:10:03,333 --> 01:10:06,532
Speaker 19: But times have changed in that space, you know. I mean,

1483
01:10:06,612 --> 01:10:08,812
Speaker 19: they wanted me to get school se me when I

1484
01:10:08,893 --> 01:10:12,492
Speaker 19: didn't yep, So even then they were expecting expectations. Where

1485
01:10:12,933 --> 01:10:16,933
Speaker 19: did I put some effort in to school? See, and

1486
01:10:16,973 --> 01:10:19,172
Speaker 19: I didn't even pass woodwork, which is awkward.

1487
01:10:21,293 --> 01:10:23,612
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad everything turned out great for you. Gary.

1488
01:10:23,973 --> 01:10:25,452
Speaker 2: You sound like a great New Zealand. It was great

1489
01:10:25,452 --> 01:10:25,772
Speaker 2: to chat.

1490
01:10:25,933 --> 01:10:28,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much from me. Absolutely, Just on

1491
01:10:28,772 --> 01:10:30,572
Speaker 3: the cane situation, you reckon. There were some of the

1492
01:10:30,612 --> 01:10:33,612
Speaker 3: teachers that went to the gym just to work on

1493
01:10:33,732 --> 01:10:35,812
Speaker 3: their cane arm. There must have been you get a

1494
01:10:35,853 --> 01:10:37,173
Speaker 3: real good forearm going on.

1495
01:10:37,452 --> 01:10:39,532
Speaker 2: Whether it was there were there were the teachers that

1496
01:10:39,732 --> 01:10:42,452
Speaker 2: named their canes Lucy.

1497
01:10:44,933 --> 01:10:47,692
Speaker 3: Is coming for you? Yeah, Butchi yeah yeah.

1498
01:10:48,093 --> 01:10:51,053
Speaker 2: In Australia you on today. I'm with Matt. When you

1499
01:10:51,093 --> 01:10:53,653
Speaker 2: get the cane, you don't bat an eyelid, don't acknowledge

1500
01:10:53,652 --> 01:10:55,852
Speaker 2: the pain. You look the teacher straight in the eye

1501
01:10:55,933 --> 01:10:58,452
Speaker 2: and say thank you sir for empowering me.

1502
01:10:58,812 --> 01:11:01,812
Speaker 3: Yeah that is powerful. Yeah with me a good moment,

1503
01:11:01,973 --> 01:11:05,293
Speaker 3: Thank you sir, Thank you. Can I have another plenty

1504
01:11:05,333 --> 01:11:07,173
Speaker 3: of tea's coming through On nineteen ninety two.

1505
01:11:07,173 --> 01:11:10,053
Speaker 2: Looks is staying to seventeen used to be for those

1506
01:11:10,133 --> 01:11:13,253
Speaker 2: sitting university interest exams. If you aren't going to university,

1507
01:11:13,372 --> 01:11:14,692
Speaker 2: what the hell are you doing at school?

1508
01:11:15,173 --> 01:11:15,372
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1509
01:11:15,452 --> 01:11:17,812
Speaker 3: Good, cool Blair? How are you mate?

1510
01:11:19,173 --> 01:11:20,732
Speaker 13: Heyler, it's very.

1511
01:11:20,612 --> 01:11:23,133
Speaker 3: Good what you take about raising the school leaving age.

1512
01:11:24,853 --> 01:11:27,333
Speaker 29: Me personally, I don't think it's going to achieve what

1513
01:11:27,492 --> 01:11:30,452
Speaker 29: they think it's going to achieve. I mean, if you know,

1514
01:11:30,612 --> 01:11:32,772
Speaker 29: one of your biggest issues at the moment is truancy,

1515
01:11:34,213 --> 01:11:36,133
Speaker 29: probably because the kids don't want to be there, So

1516
01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:40,213
Speaker 29: forcing them to stay there until they're seventeen isn't going

1517
01:11:40,293 --> 01:11:41,893
Speaker 29: to be the flex that I think they hope it is.

1518
01:11:42,612 --> 01:11:47,132
Speaker 29: And the other thing is they need to probably standardize everything,

1519
01:11:47,253 --> 01:11:49,492
Speaker 29: so like when are you and adults in this country?

1520
01:11:50,133 --> 01:11:56,532
Speaker 29: You can drive when you're fifteen, you can, yeah, you

1521
01:11:56,572 --> 01:11:58,612
Speaker 29: can drive when you're sixteen. You can get married when

1522
01:11:58,652 --> 01:12:01,052
Speaker 29: you're sorry, drive when you're fifteen, married when you're sixteen,

1523
01:12:01,372 --> 01:12:03,772
Speaker 29: But you can't buy alcohol, cigarettes or go to a

1524
01:12:03,853 --> 01:12:07,532
Speaker 29: knock shop until you're eighteen. You can't vote, I think,

1525
01:12:07,612 --> 01:12:10,852
Speaker 29: until you're eighteen. So at what point what point are

1526
01:12:10,933 --> 01:12:12,732
Speaker 29: you classed as an adult?

1527
01:12:13,133 --> 01:12:15,333
Speaker 2: It's an interesting call. And then there's some people calling

1528
01:12:15,412 --> 01:12:18,612
Speaker 2: for voting ags to be lied to sixteen as well.

1529
01:12:18,732 --> 01:12:20,013
Speaker 2: So what do you think? What do you think? It

1530
01:12:20,093 --> 01:12:22,372
Speaker 2: isn't the problem with classing when someone is an adult,

1531
01:12:22,372 --> 01:12:24,692
Speaker 2: because there are people that are adults when they're fifteen,

1532
01:12:24,692 --> 01:12:26,572
Speaker 2: and there are people that aren't adults when they're thirty.

1533
01:12:26,772 --> 01:12:29,812
Speaker 2: You know, know what I mean? But what do you reckon?

1534
01:12:30,053 --> 01:12:34,372
Speaker 2: What do you reckon in age? Is eighteen eighteen for everything?

1535
01:12:34,492 --> 01:12:34,652
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1536
01:12:34,772 --> 01:12:37,093
Speaker 29: I mean if well, I mean, if eighteen is the

1537
01:12:37,173 --> 01:12:40,572
Speaker 29: majority of what they consider you being old enough to

1538
01:12:41,253 --> 01:12:45,852
Speaker 29: make your own decisions theoretically, then it probably needs to

1539
01:12:45,933 --> 01:12:50,692
Speaker 29: be across everything. Now I've just contradicted myself.

1540
01:12:50,732 --> 01:12:51,293
Speaker 1: I realized that.

1541
01:12:53,253 --> 01:12:56,253
Speaker 29: You know, I still don't think it's going to achieve

1542
01:12:56,372 --> 01:12:58,252
Speaker 29: what they wanted to achieve by making.

1543
01:12:58,053 --> 01:12:58,932
Speaker 25: The kids stay longer.

1544
01:12:59,372 --> 01:13:00,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was.

1545
01:13:01,253 --> 01:13:04,732
Speaker 29: I funked out of school fairly early on, as basically

1546
01:13:04,772 --> 01:13:07,572
Speaker 29: as soon as I could, and I was lucky. I'll

1547
01:13:07,652 --> 01:13:11,213
Speaker 29: landed on my feet and got a job and was

1548
01:13:11,253 --> 01:13:15,133
Speaker 29: there for quite a long time. And they've progressed through

1549
01:13:15,253 --> 01:13:19,412
Speaker 29: life fairly satisfactorily, I would think. But that was luck

1550
01:13:19,532 --> 01:13:22,052
Speaker 29: rather than good good luck rather than good management.

1551
01:13:22,412 --> 01:13:24,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesane because we're hearing from a lot of

1552
01:13:24,293 --> 01:13:26,973
Speaker 2: people that left school early and have done well, but

1553
01:13:27,093 --> 01:13:30,612
Speaker 2: we're not for whatever reason, And that might be survival

1554
01:13:30,692 --> 01:13:32,492
Speaker 2: by us that we're thinking here that we're not hearing

1555
01:13:32,532 --> 01:13:34,652
Speaker 2: from a lot of people that left school and regretted

1556
01:13:34,692 --> 01:13:38,572
Speaker 2: it and things didn't turn out because yeah, they just

1557
01:13:38,692 --> 01:13:40,253
Speaker 2: probably didn't turn out well enough for them to be

1558
01:13:40,333 --> 01:13:40,973
Speaker 2: ringing us right now.

1559
01:13:41,093 --> 01:13:43,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, and luck comes into it, as you say, Blair, Hey,

1560
01:13:43,933 --> 01:13:44,173
Speaker 3: thank you.

1561
01:13:44,213 --> 01:13:48,572
Speaker 2: So of your call. I need to get it to school.

1562
01:13:48,772 --> 01:13:50,293
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call.

1563
01:13:50,213 --> 01:13:52,013
Speaker 3: Blair, Thank you very much. I'm having a look at

1564
01:13:52,013 --> 01:13:57,053
Speaker 3: old canes just because I'm interested. And in terms of

1565
01:13:57,133 --> 01:13:59,372
Speaker 3: the actual standard issue cane in New Zealand, so it

1566
01:13:59,492 --> 01:14:04,492
Speaker 3: was called the old hooknick but bamboo, no, metal didn't

1567
01:14:04,532 --> 01:14:07,492
Speaker 3: have to be bamboo. You could just get an oak cocaine,

1568
01:14:07,532 --> 01:14:08,293
Speaker 3: which is quite nice.

1569
01:14:09,532 --> 01:14:11,812
Speaker 2: Just can you imagine teachers going through and packing from

1570
01:14:11,853 --> 01:14:13,293
Speaker 2: the catalog what cane they wanted.

1571
01:14:13,933 --> 01:14:16,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have one of those, one of those.

1572
01:14:17,013 --> 01:14:19,812
Speaker 2: When I told one of my sons that they used

1573
01:14:19,812 --> 01:14:21,893
Speaker 2: to came kids at school, he laughed for ages. He

1574
01:14:21,933 --> 01:14:24,333
Speaker 2: thought it was a joke. He couldn't even imagine. He said,

1575
01:14:24,372 --> 01:14:26,893
Speaker 2: what the teachers used to hit the kids with a

1576
01:14:27,013 --> 01:14:30,372
Speaker 2: stick And I said yeah, And he thought I was lying.

1577
01:14:30,412 --> 01:14:31,893
Speaker 2: He had to look it up before he believed me

1578
01:14:31,933 --> 01:14:34,492
Speaker 2: thought he was playing a joking. Matt, my high school

1579
01:14:34,492 --> 01:14:37,692
Speaker 2: economics teacher, and Timaru had a cricket back called the Motivator.

1580
01:14:38,732 --> 01:14:40,852
Speaker 2: Well taking it to the cricket bats intense. It was

1581
01:14:40,933 --> 01:14:43,452
Speaker 2: either that or fifty laps around the panic. We also

1582
01:14:43,492 --> 01:14:45,732
Speaker 2: had to call them cur and this was in the nineties.

1583
01:14:46,372 --> 01:14:48,812
Speaker 3: Fifty laps was a lot. I think I'd get I'd

1584
01:14:48,853 --> 01:14:50,932
Speaker 3: get a hit by the Motivator over fifty lamps.

1585
01:14:51,173 --> 01:14:53,213
Speaker 2: It depends what shot was. If it was like a

1586
01:14:53,333 --> 01:14:57,253
Speaker 2: pool shot, yeah, if it was a nice just for

1587
01:14:57,452 --> 01:15:01,973
Speaker 2: defensive stroke, sure that's fine. But you know, yeah the

1588
01:15:02,093 --> 01:15:04,052
Speaker 2: four wind up if he's getting on the back foot

1589
01:15:04,093 --> 01:15:06,293
Speaker 2: and having a go not so keen a right.

1590
01:15:06,412 --> 01:15:08,972
Speaker 3: It is eight minutes to three, eight hundred eighteen eighty

1591
01:15:09,133 --> 01:15:09,892
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

1592
01:15:10,013 --> 01:15:12,213
Speaker 2: The harder you work, the lucky you get, guys says

1593
01:15:12,253 --> 01:15:15,333
Speaker 2: is tick. So how true is that? The issues that

1594
01:15:15,492 --> 01:15:16,372
Speaker 2: affect you and.

1595
01:15:16,532 --> 01:15:18,612
Speaker 1: A bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath and

1596
01:15:18,692 --> 01:15:21,333
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

1597
01:15:22,412 --> 01:15:24,612
Speaker 3: News Talks It B. It is five to three, So

1598
01:15:24,732 --> 01:15:26,293
Speaker 3: many ticks to come through on this topic.

1599
01:15:28,053 --> 01:15:30,333
Speaker 2: I quit UNI for my girlfriend as a teenager because

1600
01:15:30,372 --> 01:15:32,612
Speaker 2: she didn't want me to leave town for UNI. Then

1601
01:15:32,732 --> 01:15:35,852
Speaker 2: she said no to marrying me and then cheated on me.

1602
01:15:37,253 --> 01:15:39,612
Speaker 2: Now I got to support a family of five one

1603
01:15:39,732 --> 01:15:41,893
Speaker 2: hundred K as a single income when it could be

1604
01:15:41,973 --> 01:15:43,452
Speaker 2: on twice that if I'd bent to UNI.

1605
01:15:44,093 --> 01:15:46,532
Speaker 3: That is a tragic series of events.

1606
01:15:46,572 --> 01:15:48,852
Speaker 2: I've got to say, Well, that's the downside of it,

1607
01:15:48,933 --> 01:15:51,572
Speaker 2: staying to seventeen years. I know that's already read that

1608
01:15:52,053 --> 01:15:54,532
Speaker 2: expelled at fifteen long story, short winter oz to work,

1609
01:15:54,652 --> 01:15:57,372
Speaker 2: drove trucks making one hundred and twenty k year back

1610
01:15:57,372 --> 01:15:59,692
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, our own house and a car.

1611
01:16:00,173 --> 01:16:02,732
Speaker 3: It's good, good times. Now, Patty, we've only go I

1612
01:16:02,853 --> 01:16:04,812
Speaker 3: got about forty seconds, My friend, you go for it.

1613
01:16:05,812 --> 01:16:07,532
Speaker 26: Well that's not going to cut it. But anyway, guys,

1614
01:16:07,572 --> 01:16:11,452
Speaker 26: how's it. Yeah, my parents lived in a country where

1615
01:16:11,492 --> 01:16:13,933
Speaker 26: there was no schooling. I went to a school in

1616
01:16:13,973 --> 01:16:16,093
Speaker 26: a different country, so I used to fly on four

1617
01:16:16,133 --> 01:16:20,812
Speaker 26: aeroplanes to that country to go to boarding school. I

1618
01:16:21,732 --> 01:16:24,492
Speaker 26: who started flying at the age of seven and companied

1619
01:16:25,853 --> 01:16:27,173
Speaker 26: and I used to go home once a year to

1620
01:16:27,173 --> 01:16:30,532
Speaker 26: see my parents at Christmas. When they moved closer, I

1621
01:16:30,692 --> 01:16:33,692
Speaker 26: used to travel to I used to travel home twice

1622
01:16:33,732 --> 01:16:38,692
Speaker 26: a year. Got to the age of sixteen. He was

1623
01:16:38,772 --> 01:16:40,452
Speaker 26: at a different school by this time, not at a

1624
01:16:40,492 --> 01:16:45,532
Speaker 26: boarding school. My father put me in the YMCA. Decided

1625
01:16:45,572 --> 01:16:47,893
Speaker 26: I didn't want to do school, so I applied for

1626
01:16:48,333 --> 01:16:52,452
Speaker 26: a few apprenticeships by all of them, and then I

1627
01:16:52,933 --> 01:16:55,772
Speaker 26: had to have my father signature to be able to

1628
01:16:55,812 --> 01:16:58,933
Speaker 26: accept the job for them to be able to accept me.

1629
01:16:59,213 --> 01:17:01,492
Speaker 26: And I used to get the check for the YMCA

1630
01:17:01,612 --> 01:17:04,012
Speaker 26: from my father every month to pay the YMCA fee,

1631
01:17:04,053 --> 01:17:07,252
Speaker 26: so I knew his signature quite well. For was this signature.

1632
01:17:07,893 --> 01:17:10,532
Speaker 26: So as we job, I wanted and became an engineer.

1633
01:17:10,772 --> 01:17:12,252
Speaker 26: Love here I am today.

1634
01:17:12,293 --> 01:17:15,133
Speaker 3: So so good Patty, what a story. Yeah, great story

1635
01:17:15,213 --> 01:17:17,133
Speaker 3: to finish on good discussion, Thank you very much.

1636
01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:17,972
Speaker 2: Forty second story.

1637
01:17:18,133 --> 01:17:21,252
Speaker 3: Yeah, news coming up then another topic on the table.

1638
01:17:23,853 --> 01:17:28,172
Speaker 1: Your new home are insateful and entertaining Talk. It's Mattie

1639
01:17:28,412 --> 01:17:31,972
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk SEBBI.

1640
01:17:33,412 --> 01:17:36,692
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon, Cher, welcome back into the show. Seven

1641
01:17:36,853 --> 01:17:39,293
Speaker 3: past three. Hope you have been a fantastic Wednesday. So

1642
01:17:39,412 --> 01:17:42,492
Speaker 3: let's get into this. Lord had a wide ranging interview

1643
01:17:42,612 --> 01:17:45,412
Speaker 3: with Day's magazine and what she said She's a bad

1644
01:17:45,492 --> 01:17:47,492
Speaker 3: Kiwi and here's why. So she was asked about her

1645
01:17:47,532 --> 01:17:50,053
Speaker 3: relationship with good old New Zealand, and she said she

1646
01:17:50,133 --> 01:17:52,053
Speaker 3: misses it all the time, but she's making it a

1647
01:17:52,093 --> 01:17:54,612
Speaker 3: priority to get back here more often. But she was

1648
01:17:54,652 --> 01:17:57,012
Speaker 3: asked a question about whether she liked Lord of the Rings,

1649
01:17:57,492 --> 01:17:59,572
Speaker 3: and she admitted she had never seen any of the

1650
01:17:59,692 --> 01:18:02,732
Speaker 3: movies or TV series or read the books. And she said,

1651
01:18:02,772 --> 01:18:03,812
Speaker 3: I quote bad Kiwi.

1652
01:18:04,253 --> 01:18:04,612
Speaker 15: I know.

1653
01:18:05,812 --> 01:18:08,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what are the key things, places and food,

1654
01:18:08,452 --> 01:18:11,173
Speaker 2: et cetera to define the key we experience? What do

1655
01:18:11,213 --> 01:18:14,452
Speaker 2: you think everyone in New Zealand should do, taste, or

1656
01:18:15,772 --> 01:18:19,092
Speaker 2: visit to be a good kiwi?

1657
01:18:19,253 --> 01:18:19,452
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1658
01:18:19,612 --> 01:18:21,053
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's not really a good key. Where

1659
01:18:21,093 --> 01:18:23,133
Speaker 2: she says she's a bad key. She's obviously joking around

1660
01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:24,612
Speaker 2: not watching Lord of the Rings.

1661
01:18:24,973 --> 01:18:27,972
Speaker 3: But as part of the key we experience as Lord

1662
01:18:27,973 --> 01:18:29,893
Speaker 3: of the Rings, something that you should watch, Definitely that

1663
01:18:30,093 --> 01:18:32,972
Speaker 3: encapsulates the key we experience, does it. I haven't read

1664
01:18:33,013 --> 01:18:34,852
Speaker 3: the Box, but I've watched the movie. You better believe

1665
01:18:34,853 --> 01:18:35,972
Speaker 3: I watched the Box.

1666
01:18:36,053 --> 01:18:38,093
Speaker 2: Have got absolutely nothing to do with New Zealand, But

1667
01:18:38,253 --> 01:18:41,013
Speaker 2: in the Box has got absolutely not even one thing

1668
01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:43,852
Speaker 2: to New Zealand. There wasn't even one second when Tolkien

1669
01:18:43,973 --> 01:18:45,812
Speaker 2: was writing those books that he thought about New Zealand

1670
01:18:46,053 --> 01:18:48,612
Speaker 2: very just that. Sir Peter Jackson's a genius and he

1671
01:18:48,933 --> 01:18:53,213
Speaker 2: managed to convince New Line Cinema that those movies could

1672
01:18:53,253 --> 01:18:55,293
Speaker 2: be all shot in New Zealand because we're the pocket world,

1673
01:18:55,372 --> 01:18:57,412
Speaker 2: haven't we. We've got all the different terrain that was

1674
01:18:57,532 --> 01:19:02,652
Speaker 2: needed to make those movies that trilogy right here in

1675
01:19:02,692 --> 01:19:03,173
Speaker 2: New Zealand.

1676
01:19:03,293 --> 01:19:05,812
Speaker 3: Yep, And look how that worked out for our beautiful country.

1677
01:19:05,893 --> 01:19:10,212
Speaker 3: Absolutely gangbusters. But what is it that encapsulates the Kiwi experience?

1678
01:19:10,412 --> 01:19:13,053
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

1679
01:19:13,173 --> 01:19:16,893
Speaker 3: call straight away? Techs came through. You gotta love the

1680
01:19:16,973 --> 01:19:19,253
Speaker 3: all blacks or just pretend to during the World Cups.

1681
01:19:19,532 --> 01:19:21,972
Speaker 3: You don't need to understand, Rugby, Just yell go black

1682
01:19:22,093 --> 01:19:25,173
Speaker 3: and complain about the ref bonus points of you. We're black,

1683
01:19:25,293 --> 01:19:27,852
Speaker 3: even at weddings or funerals, especially at funerals.

1684
01:19:28,253 --> 01:19:29,333
Speaker 8: Do you have to.

1685
01:19:32,452 --> 01:19:37,812
Speaker 2: Enjoy or consume a mince and cheese pie covered in sauce?

1686
01:19:38,213 --> 01:19:38,412
Speaker 8: Yep?

1687
01:19:40,213 --> 01:19:43,133
Speaker 2: Is that the quintessential New Zealand pie? Is it the

1688
01:19:43,173 --> 01:19:45,173
Speaker 2: mince and cheese pie? Is that the mince pie? I mean,

1689
01:19:45,173 --> 01:19:46,652
Speaker 2: if we're on from it's the mutton pie.

1690
01:19:46,893 --> 01:19:48,772
Speaker 3: Mutton pie is good. What about the old bacon and egg?

1691
01:19:49,213 --> 01:19:51,253
Speaker 3: Is that Kiwi? Anything Kiwi about bacon and the egg?

1692
01:19:51,612 --> 01:19:54,772
Speaker 2: Ummmm, I'm gonna say big fan of bacony pie, but

1693
01:19:54,812 --> 01:19:57,013
Speaker 2: I don't feel that there's anything quintessentially Kiwi about it.

1694
01:19:57,572 --> 01:19:59,572
Speaker 2: Fish and chips on the beach?

1695
01:19:59,973 --> 01:20:04,052
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, yes, boy, that is that is very key Weyana.

1696
01:20:04,133 --> 01:20:07,173
Speaker 2: If you haven't been terrorized by seagulls trying to eat

1697
01:20:07,213 --> 01:20:09,852
Speaker 2: fish and chips on the beach, then you you haven't

1698
01:20:09,893 --> 01:20:11,372
Speaker 2: experienced before key we experience.

1699
01:20:11,372 --> 01:20:15,932
Speaker 3: Got to face those sky rats. Yiday guys. Goodbye pork Pie?

1700
01:20:16,173 --> 01:20:18,173
Speaker 3: If you haven't seen that, how key we are you?

1701
01:20:19,173 --> 01:20:20,093
Speaker 3: It's good? Good movie.

1702
01:20:20,732 --> 01:20:24,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a great movie. Actually does it stand up?

1703
01:20:24,933 --> 01:20:26,732
Speaker 2: I mean when did that come out? They made a

1704
01:20:26,812 --> 01:20:29,013
Speaker 2: sequel to it that I haven't seen, But when did

1705
01:20:29,053 --> 01:20:34,093
Speaker 2: Goodbye Pork Pie come out? Goodbye pork Pie nineteen eighty one?

1706
01:20:35,492 --> 01:20:37,372
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's been a while since I've seen it,

1707
01:20:37,412 --> 01:20:39,652
Speaker 3: but I have seen it. Bldini, Yeah, oh onit. One

1708
01:20:39,732 --> 01:20:42,173
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. What

1709
01:20:42,253 --> 01:20:45,572
Speaker 3: do you need to do? The experiences, the foods are

1710
01:20:45,652 --> 01:20:48,652
Speaker 3: the things in New Zealand that is quintessential key. We

1711
01:20:48,732 --> 01:20:51,692
Speaker 3: aana love to hear from you. It is ten to

1712
01:20:52,372 --> 01:20:54,253
Speaker 3: ten pass three. I should say nine two. Nine two

1713
01:20:54,293 --> 01:20:54,932
Speaker 3: is a text number.

1714
01:20:55,612 --> 01:20:58,333
Speaker 2: Lambtails on the fire after docking.

1715
01:20:58,253 --> 01:20:58,973
Speaker 3: Sounds pretty good.

1716
01:20:59,532 --> 01:21:00,092
Speaker 1: Us talks.

1717
01:21:00,093 --> 01:21:03,013
Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon g thirteen past three. What

1718
01:21:03,093 --> 01:21:07,092
Speaker 3: are the things, places, foods, experiences that encapsulates New Zealands?

1719
01:21:07,133 --> 01:21:07,612
Speaker 2: What do you reckon?

1720
01:21:07,732 --> 01:21:07,972
Speaker 30: Josh?

1721
01:21:09,412 --> 01:21:11,213
Speaker 2: Hey, you doing very good?

1722
01:21:12,572 --> 01:21:15,933
Speaker 25: Yeh know, just keeping it key just because sorry, we

1723
01:21:16,333 --> 01:21:19,452
Speaker 25: kids since day one and just mind a waving my neighbors.

1724
01:21:22,772 --> 01:21:24,652
Speaker 25: I don't actually, you know, I'm one of those people

1725
01:21:24,652 --> 01:21:26,293
Speaker 25: who just grew up with rugby.

1726
01:21:26,053 --> 01:21:29,852
Speaker 2: But I never enjoyed it, right, you enjoyed playing it

1727
01:21:29,933 --> 01:21:30,492
Speaker 2: or watching.

1728
01:21:30,333 --> 01:21:35,293
Speaker 25: It both, really, but you don't need in terms of

1729
01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:37,012
Speaker 25: being a ki and whatnot. You know, it's not about

1730
01:21:37,053 --> 01:21:39,612
Speaker 25: rug variable weep, but it's just being good person to

1731
01:21:39,652 --> 01:21:42,293
Speaker 25: your neighbors and just dropping your money away with just

1732
01:21:42,652 --> 01:21:43,492
Speaker 25: those little things.

1733
01:21:44,372 --> 01:21:46,612
Speaker 3: Good Josh, Yeah, that was a huge part of it,

1734
01:21:46,732 --> 01:21:48,772
Speaker 3: isn't it just the Yeah?

1735
01:21:50,293 --> 01:21:52,412
Speaker 2: I tried to give my girlfriend a true care experience

1736
01:21:52,452 --> 01:21:55,812
Speaker 2: with fish and chips on the beach and champagne. She's

1737
01:21:55,853 --> 01:21:58,052
Speaker 2: from Asia. She was far from impressed.

1738
01:21:58,692 --> 01:22:02,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one. What's wrong with it? There's nothing more

1739
01:22:02,372 --> 01:22:04,133
Speaker 3: romantic than fish and chips on the beach, a man

1740
01:22:04,333 --> 01:22:04,932
Speaker 3: off the wharf.

1741
01:22:05,293 --> 01:22:09,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's crucial. Yeah, getting through a big bots

1742
01:22:09,093 --> 01:22:11,412
Speaker 2: on crap day and that's I mean, I don't know

1743
01:22:11,412 --> 01:22:12,253
Speaker 2: if everyone can pull.

1744
01:22:12,133 --> 01:22:14,093
Speaker 3: That off, that's impressive. If you managed to do that,

1745
01:22:14,652 --> 01:22:15,572
Speaker 3: you're a very great.

1746
01:22:15,452 --> 01:22:17,933
Speaker 2: Kei we I've seen I've seen people attempt that and

1747
01:22:18,133 --> 01:22:21,253
Speaker 2: go go very poorly. Yeah, talking about you, the notorious

1748
01:22:21,293 --> 01:22:23,572
Speaker 2: pants man Joel Harrison, you know who you are, great

1749
01:22:23,612 --> 01:22:24,132
Speaker 2: New Zealander.

1750
01:22:24,772 --> 01:22:27,973
Speaker 3: In a similar vein the YARDI, the YARDI is there,

1751
01:22:28,053 --> 01:22:31,293
Speaker 3: that is Keiwanna. I mean most young men would have

1752
01:22:31,333 --> 01:22:33,412
Speaker 3: done a YARDI, and young woman for that matter.

1753
01:22:34,093 --> 01:22:37,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, as the yard gas on your twenty first it

1754
01:22:37,492 --> 01:22:38,492
Speaker 2: can't be a Kiwi thing.

1755
01:22:38,572 --> 01:22:40,053
Speaker 3: I think the Aussies are pretty into it as well,

1756
01:22:40,053 --> 01:22:41,772
Speaker 3: because it was either twenty one shots or you do

1757
01:22:41,853 --> 01:22:43,732
Speaker 3: the YARDI and the art is the easier way to go.

1758
01:22:43,933 --> 01:22:46,092
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with about week books though, because

1759
01:22:46,133 --> 01:22:50,013
Speaker 2: that's an Aussie that was first Ossie kids are we

1760
01:22:50,253 --> 01:22:54,532
Speaker 2: Bix kids, kids are we Bex kids And then we

1761
01:22:54,812 --> 01:22:56,652
Speaker 2: just bought the ad over here and made it ki

1762
01:22:56,732 --> 01:22:59,173
Speaker 2: We Kids were ripped off the jingle. Yeah, well, I

1763
01:22:59,213 --> 01:23:00,732
Speaker 2: mean week books when they came out here, they said

1764
01:23:00,732 --> 01:23:03,333
Speaker 2: that that worked well in Australia. Let's bring it over here.

1765
01:23:03,452 --> 01:23:07,652
Speaker 3: Certainly worked well here, Craig, How are you good?

1766
01:23:07,732 --> 01:23:07,972
Speaker 21: Thanks?

1767
01:23:08,013 --> 01:23:08,253
Speaker 30: Guys.

1768
01:23:08,772 --> 01:23:11,652
Speaker 10: Hey, look, I think one of the quintessential Kiwi moments

1769
01:23:11,692 --> 01:23:14,253
Speaker 10: of squealing like a girl when the crabs bite your

1770
01:23:14,333 --> 01:23:16,052
Speaker 10: toes when you're doing the tour tour shuffle.

1771
01:23:17,253 --> 01:23:20,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great one. That is a very good one.

1772
01:23:22,612 --> 01:23:25,412
Speaker 10: I actually have a really hilarious story. Well was that

1773
01:23:25,612 --> 01:23:28,452
Speaker 10: was my younger siblings, if you like. And I was

1774
01:23:28,572 --> 01:23:31,452
Speaker 10: the big, manly guy and I was getting muscles off

1775
01:23:31,492 --> 01:23:35,173
Speaker 10: the rocks and and an octopus wrapped its tentacles around

1776
01:23:35,213 --> 01:23:38,372
Speaker 10: my leg and I squealed like a weak girl and

1777
01:23:38,492 --> 01:23:40,173
Speaker 10: they were just rolling around laughing.

1778
01:23:40,412 --> 01:23:47,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you, Craig. Keiwana midweek rugby practice in

1779
01:23:47,452 --> 01:23:49,933
Speaker 2: the winter when the frost had already settled after a

1780
01:23:49,973 --> 01:23:53,452
Speaker 2: hard day's work on site, and your shorts, jeez, how.

1781
01:23:53,372 --> 01:23:53,772
Speaker 22: Did we do it?

1782
01:23:54,772 --> 01:23:56,133
Speaker 2: Why did we? She is, Paul?

1783
01:23:56,692 --> 01:23:57,772
Speaker 3: We do love our shorts.

1784
01:23:57,893 --> 01:23:59,492
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. Lord says that she's a

1785
01:23:59,532 --> 01:24:01,412
Speaker 2: bad New Zealand because she hasn't watched Lord of the Rings.

1786
01:24:01,452 --> 01:24:04,173
Speaker 2: I bet Lord has never had a midweek rugby practice

1787
01:24:04,173 --> 01:24:06,732
Speaker 2: in the winter when the frost had already sealed after

1788
01:24:06,772 --> 01:24:10,612
Speaker 2: a hard day's work on site. Yeah, it's probably probably

1789
01:24:10,772 --> 01:24:12,692
Speaker 2: ninety percent of things that we define as being a

1790
01:24:12,772 --> 01:24:14,012
Speaker 2: key board wouldn't have done.

1791
01:24:14,452 --> 01:24:16,053
Speaker 3: On the old shorts thing. I mean, it is something

1792
01:24:16,173 --> 01:24:17,852
Speaker 3: very key we that we just rock the shorts no

1793
01:24:17,973 --> 01:24:20,732
Speaker 3: matter the weather, whether it's stubbies or just shorts, we

1794
01:24:20,853 --> 01:24:22,852
Speaker 3: seem to I don't know if it's a if it's

1795
01:24:22,893 --> 01:24:25,452
Speaker 3: a pride thing that will just go out and freezing

1796
01:24:25,532 --> 01:24:28,612
Speaker 3: cold rain and snow in the old shorts. Not many

1797
01:24:28,652 --> 01:24:29,652
Speaker 3: people around the world do that.

1798
01:24:30,652 --> 01:24:35,732
Speaker 2: Do you have to have had a actually that recently

1799
01:24:35,772 --> 01:24:37,892
Speaker 2: I was doing the Agenda Sports podcast and somewhere from

1800
01:24:37,933 --> 01:24:41,972
Speaker 2: south and said, oh, I said, what what what sounds

1801
01:24:42,013 --> 01:24:44,652
Speaker 2: to us? When should you not wear shorts? And the

1802
01:24:44,732 --> 01:24:46,492
Speaker 2: answer is you should always wear shorts.

1803
01:24:46,612 --> 01:24:46,772
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1804
01:24:47,013 --> 01:24:48,692
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people that live in Southland

1805
01:24:49,173 --> 01:24:51,372
Speaker 2: that just wear shorts or no matter how cold it is,

1806
01:24:51,412 --> 01:24:52,213
Speaker 2: that shorts all year.

1807
01:24:52,333 --> 01:24:54,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got good tan lines below the knees.

1808
01:24:55,093 --> 01:24:58,532
Speaker 2: Hello. A Kiwi classic has to be the bungee jump.

1809
01:24:58,973 --> 01:25:02,132
Speaker 2: You dnumb one yeah, I done bunge done a couple.

1810
01:25:02,333 --> 01:25:07,012
Speaker 3: Done a couple Which bridges Queenstown Yep? The famous Yeah,

1811
01:25:07,772 --> 01:25:10,732
Speaker 3: the big one is the beg Neivous Yeah, the famous one.

1812
01:25:10,812 --> 01:25:13,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, in off Auckland Harbor Bridge as well.

1813
01:25:14,173 --> 01:25:14,532
Speaker 13: How was that?

1814
01:25:15,572 --> 01:25:18,213
Speaker 2: The oklahabber Bridge was Actually they actually got it wrong.

1815
01:25:18,253 --> 01:25:20,013
Speaker 2: They thought I'd be more brave and I dive off,

1816
01:25:20,093 --> 01:25:23,013
Speaker 2: so they made it a bit longer for me. Get

1817
01:25:23,093 --> 01:25:24,812
Speaker 2: you the dunk and I just did a dunk. I

1818
01:25:24,933 --> 01:25:28,452
Speaker 2: just had plopped off like a duck going underwater for slugs,

1819
01:25:28,452 --> 01:25:30,492
Speaker 2: and so I went deep into the water when I

1820
01:25:30,532 --> 01:25:33,652
Speaker 2: hit the water. The one off the top of the

1821
01:25:34,293 --> 01:25:38,732
Speaker 2: when you take the gondola up in Queenstown's terrifying. Which one?

1822
01:25:38,853 --> 01:25:40,812
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, the one you're talking about.

1823
01:25:40,692 --> 01:25:43,572
Speaker 2: The one and the one on top is also quite

1824
01:25:43,692 --> 01:25:44,972
Speaker 2: terrifying beside the swing.

1825
01:25:44,933 --> 01:25:47,213
Speaker 3: Cheese your bungee jump, crazy mate, you've done a few

1826
01:25:47,253 --> 01:25:49,093
Speaker 3: of them. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty c

1827
01:25:49,253 --> 01:25:50,412
Speaker 3: number to call ari.

1828
01:25:50,612 --> 01:25:54,732
Speaker 2: What do you think is quintessential KEII thing to do good?

1829
01:25:56,492 --> 01:26:00,333
Speaker 16: The key we thing today is to put a breedbag

1830
01:26:00,412 --> 01:26:02,012
Speaker 16: clip on a pair of broken jandle.

1831
01:26:02,293 --> 01:26:04,173
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think you have a broken pair of candle.

1832
01:26:04,893 --> 01:26:07,492
Speaker 8: You're not a true Yeah, yeah, that's so.

1833
01:26:07,612 --> 01:26:10,173
Speaker 2: The first person is it's a brilliant solution here care.

1834
01:26:10,532 --> 01:26:12,692
Speaker 3: That is genius, isn't it. That's right up there with

1835
01:26:12,853 --> 01:26:15,372
Speaker 3: Dyson and all those other inventors. Whoever that man was,

1836
01:26:15,853 --> 01:26:16,732
Speaker 3: give him a knighthood.

1837
01:26:19,253 --> 01:26:23,532
Speaker 10: Or buying a peer of red band gunboats the record, Yeah, yeah,

1838
01:26:23,532 --> 01:26:23,732
Speaker 10: you got.

1839
01:26:23,853 --> 01:26:25,372
Speaker 2: You got to have a pair of red band gun boots.

1840
01:26:25,732 --> 01:26:28,572
Speaker 2: I currently don't do you, Tyler, No, no, just because

1841
01:26:28,572 --> 01:26:30,892
Speaker 2: you see you've moved to Auckland, haven't you. Yeah, standing

1842
01:26:30,973 --> 01:26:32,932
Speaker 2: into a bad key living in central Auckland.

1843
01:26:33,053 --> 01:26:34,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love I.

1844
01:26:34,452 --> 01:26:36,492
Speaker 13: Love Auckland too, but you've got to have a peer

1845
01:26:36,572 --> 01:26:37,812
Speaker 13: to get out and do the lawns.

1846
01:26:38,133 --> 01:26:41,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, week, no excuses, we'll go, I mean going to it.

1847
01:26:41,893 --> 01:26:43,572
Speaker 2: Trying to attempt you to into a pub and a

1848
01:26:43,652 --> 01:26:45,892
Speaker 2: pair of red band gun boots is probably up there,

1849
01:26:47,013 --> 01:26:47,253
Speaker 2: you know.

1850
01:26:47,532 --> 01:26:51,053
Speaker 3: Yeap on Pontoby Road. Yeah, Ari, you're a good man

1851
01:26:51,532 --> 01:26:54,213
Speaker 3: scaler up if you're listening. No PreCure, but we need

1852
01:26:54,253 --> 01:26:57,013
Speaker 3: a couple of pairs of red bands if you can

1853
01:26:57,093 --> 01:26:58,933
Speaker 3: swing that. Oh eight hundred eighty What.

1854
01:26:58,973 --> 01:27:00,532
Speaker 2: Were the ones we're talking about the other day? The

1855
01:27:01,853 --> 01:27:04,053
Speaker 2: with a Calvin. No, what was the what was the

1856
01:27:04,093 --> 01:27:06,892
Speaker 2: company that was selling incredibly expensive gunboat one of these,

1857
01:27:07,492 --> 01:27:09,652
Speaker 2: one of the if one Wes was wearing to the

1858
01:27:10,053 --> 01:27:14,372
Speaker 2: Dutch grownd Pee. They were four thousand pounds gum boats

1859
01:27:15,053 --> 01:27:15,772
Speaker 2: and I would say.

1860
01:27:15,652 --> 01:27:17,492
Speaker 3: They look good, but they didn't really. It was just

1861
01:27:17,572 --> 01:27:18,772
Speaker 3: your stock standard pair of gummies.

1862
01:27:19,053 --> 01:27:20,772
Speaker 2: Ruthuspison loving What is tomato sauce?

1863
01:27:21,093 --> 01:27:23,053
Speaker 3: That's from Phil That's where I'd actually draw the line.

1864
01:27:23,093 --> 01:27:26,053
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry to all the Waddies lovers out there.

1865
01:27:26,452 --> 01:27:30,253
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan. No, no, Hines really Hines all

1866
01:27:30,293 --> 01:27:30,572
Speaker 3: the way.

1867
01:27:30,772 --> 01:27:31,173
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1868
01:27:31,412 --> 01:27:32,532
Speaker 3: I'll die on this hell.

1869
01:27:32,812 --> 01:27:34,812
Speaker 2: Shame on you. That is not even. That is not even.

1870
01:27:35,013 --> 01:27:37,333
Speaker 2: I don't even consider it smato sauce anything. That's not

1871
01:27:37,372 --> 01:27:38,213
Speaker 2: what is tomato sauce?

1872
01:27:38,253 --> 01:27:40,052
Speaker 3: Well, march me down to the port or the airport

1873
01:27:40,093 --> 01:27:41,372
Speaker 3: and tell me to get out of the country. But

1874
01:27:41,452 --> 01:27:43,452
Speaker 3: that is a hell. I'll die on what is tomato sauce?

1875
01:27:43,452 --> 01:27:45,372
Speaker 3: They need to put more sugar in it, that's the problem,

1876
01:27:45,372 --> 01:27:48,732
Speaker 3: and it change the recipe loaded up with sugar. If

1877
01:27:48,772 --> 01:27:50,532
Speaker 3: you try, Heines, that is like a dessert.

1878
01:27:50,853 --> 01:27:53,213
Speaker 2: The only thing that I will accept apart from what

1879
01:27:53,372 --> 01:27:55,772
Speaker 2: is Tomato sauce is the ice cream two lead to

1880
01:27:55,812 --> 01:27:59,812
Speaker 2: ice cream tub of strangely pale colored sauce that you

1881
01:27:59,893 --> 01:28:04,892
Speaker 2: dip your hot dog in at the at the Beach

1882
01:28:05,013 --> 01:28:06,772
Speaker 2: and Speedway in Dunedin when I was growing up. The

1883
01:28:06,853 --> 01:28:09,293
Speaker 2: Cardi sauce, Carni sauce.

1884
01:28:09,372 --> 01:28:11,492
Speaker 3: You can't beat the Carney sauce. Yeah right, we've got

1885
01:28:11,532 --> 01:28:13,532
Speaker 3: full lines one hundred and eighty.

1886
01:28:13,732 --> 01:28:18,053
Speaker 20: Get a John here, good I Hi guys, Just a

1887
01:28:18,133 --> 01:28:20,812
Speaker 20: quick story about shorts. There always a time and place.

1888
01:28:22,093 --> 01:28:25,973
Speaker 20: I was at the Gallipoli Centenary some years ago. The

1889
01:28:26,053 --> 01:28:29,452
Speaker 20: man in charge representing the Queen was Prince Harry. So

1890
01:28:30,253 --> 01:28:32,852
Speaker 20: I met Prince Harry, shook his hand, Hannah yet to

1891
01:28:32,933 --> 01:28:35,492
Speaker 20: him and he said, John, I love your shorts. So

1892
01:28:36,772 --> 01:28:43,012
Speaker 20: you know, I've been freezing overnight. We're freezer freezer baba

1893
01:28:43,093 --> 01:28:47,052
Speaker 20: of overnight, but you know, and we're walking in the dust.

1894
01:28:47,213 --> 01:28:50,213
Speaker 20: And he was in charge of the well, you know

1895
01:28:50,372 --> 01:28:55,213
Speaker 20: the presentation for the Kiwi site. It's two thousand obviously, yeah,

1896
01:28:55,333 --> 01:28:58,053
Speaker 20: Kiwi's anyway, we're talking away. There was a couple other

1897
01:28:58,093 --> 01:29:00,132
Speaker 20: guys in shorts, but it got as hot as crazy

1898
01:29:00,213 --> 01:29:02,492
Speaker 20: and he's we talked and he loved my shorts.

1899
01:29:02,652 --> 01:29:04,053
Speaker 2: John, could you describe your shorts to.

1900
01:29:04,133 --> 01:29:11,852
Speaker 31: Us please, just below the knee, yeah, plenty of pockets, Yeah,

1901
01:29:12,812 --> 01:29:15,732
Speaker 31: yeah yeah, color.

1902
01:29:16,093 --> 01:29:20,133
Speaker 3: Three shorts at that point, John, Yeah, that's the number ones.

1903
01:29:21,772 --> 01:29:23,412
Speaker 8: Yeah, good on you.

1904
01:29:23,612 --> 01:29:24,652
Speaker 3: John loves the shorts.

1905
01:29:24,772 --> 01:29:27,253
Speaker 2: Harry loves your shorts. Yeah, you love your shorts. We

1906
01:29:27,333 --> 01:29:27,892
Speaker 2: love you shorts.

1907
01:29:27,973 --> 01:29:28,173
Speaker 29: Yeah.

1908
01:29:28,492 --> 01:29:30,132
Speaker 2: Kiwis and their bere feet everywhere.

1909
01:29:30,173 --> 01:29:31,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a biggie.

1910
01:29:31,253 --> 01:29:34,772
Speaker 2: It's a blazer at their feet flat like pancakes that

1911
01:29:34,853 --> 01:29:38,372
Speaker 2: have been tenderized, like tenderized steaks, because we wear bare

1912
01:29:38,412 --> 01:29:39,013
Speaker 2: feet so much.

1913
01:29:39,732 --> 01:29:42,173
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1914
01:29:42,253 --> 01:29:47,333
Speaker 3: What are the things? Foods, places, experiences that encapsulate Kiwiana

1915
01:29:47,612 --> 01:29:49,732
Speaker 3: love to hear from you. It is twenty one past three.

1916
01:29:53,732 --> 01:29:57,092
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1917
01:29:57,173 --> 01:29:59,172
Speaker 1: eighty eight on yous talk said.

1918
01:29:59,013 --> 01:30:01,293
Speaker 3: The twenty four past three. So Lord sees she's a

1919
01:30:01,333 --> 01:30:03,333
Speaker 3: bad kiwi because she hasn't watched The Lord of the Rings.

1920
01:30:03,372 --> 01:30:06,452
Speaker 3: But what makes you a good kiwi? Those experiences and things.

1921
01:30:06,532 --> 01:30:09,812
Speaker 3: Everybody should be doing that And Kiwiana.

1922
01:30:11,133 --> 01:30:13,293
Speaker 2: This is disgusting. Key's are just living in the dark.

1923
01:30:13,372 --> 01:30:15,452
Speaker 2: Ages thirty years behind the rest of the western world

1924
01:30:16,133 --> 01:30:18,012
Speaker 2: really because we like our tomato sauce.

1925
01:30:18,612 --> 01:30:22,652
Speaker 3: It's a weird thing to say, what a miserable what

1926
01:30:22,812 --> 01:30:26,293
Speaker 3: a miserable person here up there? Fella jeeve has get

1927
01:30:26,333 --> 01:30:29,213
Speaker 3: some joy in your life? Isn't that a nice thing?

1928
01:30:29,333 --> 01:30:31,412
Speaker 3: I mean, even if that is, you know a little bit,

1929
01:30:31,492 --> 01:30:32,932
Speaker 3: if there is any truth of that, which I don't

1930
01:30:32,973 --> 01:30:33,412
Speaker 3: think there is.

1931
01:30:33,893 --> 01:30:36,053
Speaker 2: Is there anything wrong with being thirty years behind this?

1932
01:30:36,893 --> 01:30:37,532
Speaker 3: It's a good time.

1933
01:30:37,853 --> 01:30:40,133
Speaker 2: But to be fair, Kiwis are living in the dark ages.

1934
01:30:40,133 --> 01:30:42,692
Speaker 2: I mean, the Kiwi bird is nocturnal, so the actual bird.

1935
01:30:42,772 --> 01:30:45,452
Speaker 2: You're correct on that part of it. Nicely done, cafee,

1936
01:30:45,612 --> 01:30:46,572
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1937
01:30:47,532 --> 01:30:48,253
Speaker 21: Hello Matt.

1938
01:30:49,293 --> 01:30:49,492
Speaker 30: Yeah.

1939
01:30:49,812 --> 01:30:54,492
Speaker 21: My most favorite memory, and it is a memory now,

1940
01:30:55,213 --> 01:30:57,732
Speaker 21: is Tony Rower to.

1941
01:30:59,612 --> 01:31:01,372
Speaker 3: Toy ra tell us more.

1942
01:31:02,692 --> 01:31:04,892
Speaker 21: To row a soup to fritters.

1943
01:31:08,572 --> 01:31:09,093
Speaker 8: It is, yeah.

1944
01:31:09,173 --> 01:31:09,412
Speaker 3: Fish.

1945
01:31:11,933 --> 01:31:15,372
Speaker 21: Unfortunately a rahui was put on them because they were

1946
01:31:15,452 --> 01:31:20,213
Speaker 21: raped and pillaged. But they were the most amazing creatures.

1947
01:31:20,333 --> 01:31:22,732
Speaker 21: You'd have to you'd see them on the beach and

1948
01:31:22,812 --> 01:31:25,333
Speaker 21: you'd see the little tube You'll come up and you

1949
01:31:25,452 --> 01:31:29,572
Speaker 21: actually had to creep up to them. They're huge. They're like,

1950
01:31:30,532 --> 01:31:36,492
Speaker 21: you know, fifteen centimeters twenty centimeters big, and they've got

1951
01:31:36,572 --> 01:31:39,892
Speaker 21: this huge tongue and they just dimmed down into the sand.

1952
01:31:41,572 --> 01:31:44,173
Speaker 3: Sounds delicious. I'm just looking at a soup recipe right

1953
01:31:44,213 --> 01:31:45,173
Speaker 3: now for tohitoa.

1954
01:31:46,893 --> 01:31:47,133
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1955
01:31:47,293 --> 01:31:47,812
Speaker 9: This is not.

1956
01:31:48,333 --> 01:31:53,772
Speaker 21: Established Darga ball and they were famous for their Toro soup.

1957
01:31:54,133 --> 01:31:54,932
Speaker 2: I look at that thing.

1958
01:31:55,452 --> 01:31:55,652
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1959
01:31:55,893 --> 01:32:01,173
Speaker 21: And to make the Toyo soup beast, yeah, we had

1960
01:32:01,253 --> 01:32:04,492
Speaker 21: to strain it through the stockings.

1961
01:32:03,933 --> 01:32:09,212
Speaker 26: And those wow, and it was beautiful.

1962
01:32:09,652 --> 01:32:13,492
Speaker 21: You can't you know, if someone asks you what tora

1963
01:32:13,612 --> 01:32:18,053
Speaker 21: or tastes like, you can only say tory, right right,

1964
01:32:18,213 --> 01:32:18,492
Speaker 21: So it was.

1965
01:32:18,572 --> 01:32:20,652
Speaker 2: It was very unique in its flavor. That's interesting.

1966
01:32:21,173 --> 01:32:24,333
Speaker 21: Absolutely, Thank you so much for your.

1967
01:32:24,213 --> 01:32:24,772
Speaker 2: Call, Kathy.

1968
01:32:25,692 --> 01:32:27,652
Speaker 3: I've got a recipe here, so if anybody wants a

1969
01:32:27,732 --> 01:32:29,213
Speaker 3: nine two nine too, and I'll flick at your way.

1970
01:32:29,372 --> 01:32:31,812
Speaker 3: Looks like a beautiful chowder, lot of cream, a lot

1971
01:32:31,853 --> 01:32:32,213
Speaker 3: of cream.

1972
01:32:32,293 --> 01:32:35,093
Speaker 2: Mister Chips, Chips, that's the best brand of Kiwi chips. Yeah.

1973
01:32:35,173 --> 01:32:37,812
Speaker 3: Remember the old longest drinking town. What happens to that draft?

1974
01:32:38,133 --> 01:32:38,812
Speaker 3: Is he still around?

1975
01:32:39,253 --> 01:32:40,692
Speaker 2: Well, the longest drinking town?

1976
01:32:40,812 --> 01:32:40,972
Speaker 26: Yeah?

1977
01:32:41,093 --> 01:32:42,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, that draft is still going.

1978
01:32:42,213 --> 01:32:45,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's key. We arena Yeah, oh, one hundred and

1979
01:32:45,253 --> 01:32:48,412
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Oh, what locks?

1980
01:32:48,452 --> 01:32:50,732
Speaker 2: Tomato Chutney sauce is the hot dog sauce you're talking

1981
01:32:50,732 --> 01:32:52,372
Speaker 2: about best sauce for hot chips as well.

1982
01:32:52,492 --> 01:32:53,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the carney sauce.

1983
01:32:53,532 --> 01:32:54,973
Speaker 2: That's a good suit. Yes, so it's either what is

1984
01:32:55,133 --> 01:32:58,012
Speaker 2: or that what lock sauce? Anything else is a crime

1985
01:32:58,333 --> 01:32:59,893
Speaker 2: and you should be deported.

1986
01:33:01,772 --> 01:33:04,173
Speaker 3: It is twenty seven pass three. But really keen to

1987
01:33:04,253 --> 01:33:06,093
Speaker 3: hear from you. We've got full lines at the moment.

1988
01:33:06,093 --> 01:33:08,013
Speaker 3: But if you can't get through, keep trime. What are

1989
01:33:08,013 --> 01:33:12,412
Speaker 3: the key places, foods, experiences that encapsulates being a good Kiwi.

1990
01:33:15,333 --> 01:33:16,133
Speaker 2: Youth Talk said.

1991
01:33:16,213 --> 01:33:19,612
Speaker 11: The headlines with blue Bubble taxi sets no trouble with

1992
01:33:19,772 --> 01:33:23,213
Speaker 11: a blue bubble. Police say the focus of the investigation

1993
01:33:23,412 --> 01:33:26,932
Speaker 11: into Mato Copper futuritive Tom Phillips is now on finding

1994
01:33:27,053 --> 01:33:31,612
Speaker 11: his accomplices and holding them accountable. A teacher of two

1995
01:33:31,732 --> 01:33:35,533
Speaker 11: children allegedly murdered by their mother and put in suitcases

1996
01:33:35,973 --> 01:33:39,893
Speaker 11: says Hargung Lee seemed lost after her husband's death. The

1997
01:33:39,973 --> 01:33:42,732
Speaker 11: forty five year olds on trial in Auckland and says

1998
01:33:42,772 --> 01:33:45,892
Speaker 11: her husband's death meant she was insane when she caused

1999
01:33:45,933 --> 01:33:50,852
Speaker 11: their deaths. In twenty eighteen another failed emissions trading scheme

2000
01:33:50,973 --> 01:33:54,732
Speaker 11: carbon Credit auction, with zero units sold in the September

2001
01:33:54,812 --> 01:33:59,812
Speaker 11: auction and no beds received. Taraunaki's Womad Festivals hitting pause

2002
01:33:59,893 --> 01:34:03,812
Speaker 11: on next year's event after three tough years following COVID nineteen,

2003
01:34:04,133 --> 01:34:08,052
Speaker 11: but plans to return in twenty twenty seven. Jet stars

2004
01:34:08,093 --> 01:34:11,213
Speaker 11: at new roots from Brisbane to Queenstown and Hamilton to

2005
01:34:11,293 --> 01:34:15,092
Speaker 11: christ Church, an increasing capacity on five domestic and trans

2006
01:34:15,213 --> 01:34:20,372
Speaker 11: Tasmin roots. Poland shot down drones over its territory after

2007
01:34:20,532 --> 01:34:25,172
Speaker 11: repeated violations of its airspace during a Russian attack on Ukraine.

2008
01:34:25,853 --> 01:34:28,732
Speaker 11: How Scott Robertson has built the all Blacks depth and

2009
01:34:28,933 --> 01:34:32,572
Speaker 11: key roles. See the full column. Add NZ Herald Premium.

2010
01:34:32,853 --> 01:34:35,132
Speaker 11: Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2011
01:34:35,253 --> 01:34:37,253
Speaker 3: Thank you, Jody, so lord see she's a beating you

2012
01:34:37,333 --> 01:34:38,812
Speaker 3: for not watching Lord of the Rings. But what's on

2013
01:34:38,893 --> 01:34:41,532
Speaker 3: the list of things every proper New Zealander has to

2014
01:34:41,652 --> 01:34:43,213
Speaker 3: tick off? Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighties and

2015
01:34:43,293 --> 01:34:43,572
Speaker 3: number to.

2016
01:34:43,572 --> 01:34:46,173
Speaker 2: Cour I was talking about those gun boots before you

2017
01:34:46,213 --> 01:34:48,333
Speaker 2: know people talk about red bands, and I was saying

2018
01:34:48,412 --> 01:34:51,053
Speaker 2: that there's the Chanell gumboots that are just rubber govnmots.

2019
01:34:51,053 --> 01:34:54,333
Speaker 2: And I saw one of the wags at the f one.

2020
01:34:54,372 --> 01:34:57,133
Speaker 2: I can't remember whose partner was, but she was wearing them.

2021
01:34:57,213 --> 01:35:04,133
Speaker 2: They're Chanel soo seven hundred and seventy American dollars four

2022
01:35:04,532 --> 01:35:06,532
Speaker 2: seven hundred seventy American dollars for a pair of rubber

2023
01:35:06,572 --> 01:35:09,013
Speaker 2: gum boots with just the Chanel logo on it. I

2024
01:35:09,612 --> 01:35:11,452
Speaker 2: was talking about this the other day, So basically, you're

2025
01:35:11,652 --> 01:35:14,013
Speaker 2: doing that to say you're rich. So I'm so rich

2026
01:35:14,093 --> 01:35:15,812
Speaker 2: that I can spend this much money on something that

2027
01:35:15,853 --> 01:35:17,333
Speaker 2: I could buy from nineteen ninety five.

2028
01:35:17,452 --> 01:35:19,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are some crazy expensive gun boots.

2029
01:35:20,013 --> 01:35:20,972
Speaker 2: Megan, welcome the show.

2030
01:35:22,572 --> 01:35:24,133
Speaker 3: Hi, how are you very Gooch?

2031
01:35:24,532 --> 01:35:29,333
Speaker 24: Classic classic Kiwi line of a neighborhood or a family barbecue,

2032
01:35:29,652 --> 01:35:31,092
Speaker 24: ladies bring a plate.

2033
01:35:33,253 --> 01:35:35,333
Speaker 2: Yes, that's still floating around. I'm not sure if I'd

2034
01:35:35,333 --> 01:35:35,852
Speaker 2: get away with that.

2035
01:35:37,173 --> 01:35:39,772
Speaker 24: I know it still floats around. And in the Classic Planet,

2036
01:35:39,853 --> 01:35:43,372
Speaker 24: the Sports Club, all the twenty first parties, thanks to

2037
01:35:43,452 --> 01:35:44,572
Speaker 24: the ladies in the kitchen.

2038
01:35:45,173 --> 01:35:48,053
Speaker 3: Yep, that's mandatory. Hear that at the Bowls Club a lot.

2039
01:35:49,492 --> 01:35:51,333
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's mandatory Kiwi talk.

2040
01:35:51,732 --> 01:35:52,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you.

2041
01:35:52,853 --> 01:35:53,133
Speaker 2: Meghan?

2042
01:35:53,253 --> 01:35:53,452
Speaker 22: Are you.

2043
01:35:54,213 --> 01:35:57,412
Speaker 2: Are you the person saying ladies bring a plate or

2044
01:35:57,452 --> 01:35:58,973
Speaker 2: thanks the ladies in the kitchen. Are you with the

2045
01:35:59,053 --> 01:36:00,772
Speaker 2: lady in the kitchen or the lady bringing the plate.

2046
01:36:02,372 --> 01:36:04,732
Speaker 24: Oh, it's a little bit of a mix of everything now,

2047
01:36:04,853 --> 01:36:06,652
Speaker 24: but it is a little bit of a standing shoke

2048
01:36:06,732 --> 01:36:08,612
Speaker 24: at the bottom of a Facebook.

2049
01:36:08,213 --> 01:36:11,372
Speaker 2: And love it.

2050
01:36:11,532 --> 01:36:13,572
Speaker 3: Thanks for your call, Megan, Yeah, great, Thanks for the

2051
01:36:13,652 --> 01:36:16,852
Speaker 3: ladies in the kitchen. Very key. We arena plenty of

2052
01:36:16,933 --> 01:36:19,372
Speaker 3: takes coming through and a lot of people are coming

2053
01:36:19,412 --> 01:36:20,172
Speaker 3: through on sources.

2054
01:36:20,492 --> 01:36:22,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there is that. So I was saying, what's

2055
01:36:22,732 --> 01:36:25,012
Speaker 2: the name of that source that you get at Speedway

2056
01:36:25,572 --> 01:36:28,053
Speaker 2: and someone said it's called Speedway Sauce and it's made

2057
01:36:28,093 --> 01:36:31,133
Speaker 2: of Nelson. So is this Nelson company that's making it?

2058
01:36:31,333 --> 01:36:33,532
Speaker 2: Have they always made it or have they just made

2059
01:36:33,532 --> 01:36:34,173
Speaker 2: a version of it?

2060
01:36:34,333 --> 01:36:34,372
Speaker 21: So?

2061
01:36:34,933 --> 01:36:39,532
Speaker 2: Tasman Bay Food Company makes Speedway Sauce. Hot Bite Speedway

2062
01:36:39,572 --> 01:36:41,932
Speaker 2: Source is a track slide favorite smothered over hot chips

2063
01:36:41,973 --> 01:36:44,612
Speaker 2: and dipped over hot dog. This thick chutney style source

2064
01:36:44,732 --> 01:36:47,732
Speaker 2: is a handy, multi use product for food service providers,

2065
01:36:47,772 --> 01:36:48,972
Speaker 2: including those at Speedway.

2066
01:36:49,093 --> 01:36:51,972
Speaker 3: Geese that sounds good. Five liter tubs as well? Bring

2067
01:36:52,053 --> 01:36:55,333
Speaker 3: it on, Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

2068
01:36:55,492 --> 01:36:56,652
Speaker 3: number to call. Get a Peter.

2069
01:36:57,812 --> 01:36:58,732
Speaker 13: Hey, how you doing there?

2070
01:36:59,053 --> 01:36:59,932
Speaker 3: Very good? What do you reckon?

2071
01:37:01,173 --> 01:37:01,333
Speaker 22: Well?

2072
01:37:01,692 --> 01:37:03,932
Speaker 32: The key to being a typical GWe, to me has

2073
01:37:04,053 --> 01:37:11,173
Speaker 32: always been a healthy, fundamental, good natured slight of Australians. Yep,

2074
01:37:12,253 --> 01:37:14,532
Speaker 32: I'll never forget where I was traveling the world, walked

2075
01:37:14,572 --> 01:37:17,372
Speaker 32: into a bar in Nairobi, of all places, walked into

2076
01:37:17,412 --> 01:37:19,133
Speaker 32: a bar and there I love the bar is this

2077
01:37:19,173 --> 01:37:20,452
Speaker 32: guy with the T shirt. On the back of the

2078
01:37:20,492 --> 01:37:23,412
Speaker 32: T shirts I support the all Blacks and anybody playing

2079
01:37:23,732 --> 01:37:27,132
Speaker 32: and anybody played against Australia. I thought, yep, you'll do mate, You're.

2080
01:37:27,013 --> 01:37:27,412
Speaker 13: One of us.

2081
01:37:29,372 --> 01:37:31,572
Speaker 2: Thanks for Peter. Hey, listen to this. So I was

2082
01:37:31,612 --> 01:37:34,932
Speaker 2: talking before. Listen to this text here. I'm so angry.

2083
01:37:34,973 --> 01:37:37,293
Speaker 2: I can hardly write this. Oh, Matt Heath has just

2084
01:37:37,372 --> 01:37:41,452
Speaker 2: said on national radio he would have people deported for

2085
01:37:41,612 --> 01:37:45,612
Speaker 2: not choosing a food. I'm shaking with what Trump is

2086
01:37:45,652 --> 01:37:47,852
Speaker 2: doing in America, and you are promoting this hate here.

2087
01:37:48,333 --> 01:37:50,293
Speaker 2: This does not end here. You can be sure of that.

2088
01:37:51,412 --> 01:37:54,173
Speaker 2: So I'd just like to say that taker, teacher, that teacher,

2089
01:37:54,253 --> 01:37:57,052
Speaker 2: it's definitely not I don't think they're a teacher. Texter, Texter,

2090
01:37:57,532 --> 01:38:02,213
Speaker 2: they're shaking, yeah, because I said that Tyler should be

2091
01:38:02,293 --> 01:38:05,452
Speaker 2: deported because he likes saw souther than what.

2092
01:38:05,572 --> 01:38:06,852
Speaker 3: Is, and a lot of the text has said that

2093
01:38:06,893 --> 01:38:07,173
Speaker 3: as well.

2094
01:38:07,253 --> 01:38:10,053
Speaker 2: Can you can I just double down. I absolutely, one

2095
01:38:10,173 --> 01:38:12,772
Speaker 2: hundred percent meant that people that don't like the same

2096
01:38:12,812 --> 01:38:15,612
Speaker 2: tomato sauces me should absolutely be rounded up and deported

2097
01:38:15,652 --> 01:38:17,173
Speaker 2: out of the country. That's exactly what I was saying,

2098
01:38:17,812 --> 01:38:21,933
Speaker 2: absolutely saying of you to be shaking and upset about that.

2099
01:38:22,293 --> 01:38:24,092
Speaker 3: You can get a double ticket for me and that texture.

2100
01:38:24,133 --> 01:38:25,852
Speaker 3: It's not going to be that bad, Ticter. Don't worry.

2101
01:38:25,933 --> 01:38:27,213
Speaker 3: We'll find a new life somewhere.

2102
01:38:27,412 --> 01:38:29,973
Speaker 2: This does not end here, this is this text. No

2103
01:38:30,812 --> 01:38:33,532
Speaker 2: it doesn't. I'll find you wherever you are and deport

2104
01:38:33,612 --> 01:38:36,612
Speaker 2: you from the country. I was one hundred percent serious

2105
01:38:36,652 --> 01:38:39,652
Speaker 2: when I said that. It wasn't just a joky ry aside.

2106
01:38:39,692 --> 01:38:42,372
Speaker 2: You You're You're right to shake in your in your

2107
01:38:42,412 --> 01:38:44,532
Speaker 2: boots at that. This Texas has got to be a

2108
01:38:44,572 --> 01:38:46,693
Speaker 2: white bait fritter in white.

2109
01:38:46,452 --> 01:38:49,452
Speaker 3: Bread, huge laugh white bait. Been a long time since

2110
01:38:49,452 --> 01:38:52,013
Speaker 3: I've eaten it. Hard to find it was last time you.

2111
01:38:52,133 --> 01:38:55,333
Speaker 2: Ate white bait from a side you know you know

2112
01:38:55,412 --> 01:38:57,253
Speaker 2: I've pulled over a few times and brought them from

2113
01:38:57,293 --> 01:38:58,532
Speaker 2: a caravan being cooked up.

2114
01:38:58,532 --> 01:39:01,053
Speaker 3: That's the only way you should do it, Marty. How

2115
01:39:01,093 --> 01:39:02,572
Speaker 3: are you good?

2116
01:39:02,612 --> 01:39:05,772
Speaker 22: A guys? Good show? This a little bit of habulous

2117
01:39:06,532 --> 01:39:08,692
Speaker 22: from a young sixty four year old. But in the

2118
01:39:08,772 --> 01:39:10,412
Speaker 22: old days they used to work in the fish and

2119
01:39:10,492 --> 01:39:14,892
Speaker 22: chip shop and Cartain High Street before Carden become trendy.

2120
01:39:15,253 --> 01:39:19,333
Speaker 22: Send away this chop and yeah, tell me about it, buddy.

2121
01:39:19,772 --> 01:39:25,852
Speaker 22: And Friday night was the night when all the normal

2122
01:39:25,973 --> 01:39:29,253
Speaker 22: people were coming for their fish and chips, and there

2123
01:39:29,612 --> 01:39:33,572
Speaker 22: it was cues, but their smiles on their faces, as

2124
01:39:33,612 --> 01:39:38,772
Speaker 22: if they'd left yesterday's problems away. It was Friday night,

2125
01:39:39,452 --> 01:39:42,092
Speaker 22: that'd be too fleshful, that may yet no four flesh

2126
01:39:42,133 --> 01:39:44,852
Speaker 22: and that there was there was no one. There was

2127
01:39:44,973 --> 01:39:47,213
Speaker 22: just fish and chips and I'll have too hot dog

2128
01:39:47,293 --> 01:39:49,973
Speaker 22: there money, you know, I said, it's all done, but

2129
01:39:50,333 --> 01:39:53,652
Speaker 22: the way they cut it, and they went away knowing that, yeah,

2130
01:39:54,412 --> 01:39:58,812
Speaker 22: problems hadn't gone away for that Friday night tradition of

2131
01:39:58,933 --> 01:40:00,173
Speaker 22: going to the fish and chip shop.

2132
01:40:02,133 --> 01:40:06,412
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Yeah, why are you describing that? Is bloody beautiful?

2133
01:40:06,492 --> 01:40:06,692
Speaker 7: Mate?

2134
01:40:06,933 --> 01:40:07,333
Speaker 10: Good on you.

2135
01:40:07,452 --> 01:40:09,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm back to my chi odd listening to that.

2136
01:40:09,532 --> 01:40:11,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I remember like when we had because

2137
01:40:11,933 --> 01:40:14,013
Speaker 2: Friday night. This must have been a massive trade on

2138
01:40:14,133 --> 01:40:15,893
Speaker 2: fish and chips on a Friday night if that was

2139
01:40:15,893 --> 01:40:18,612
Speaker 2: a new thing, right, Yeah, But my dad would be

2140
01:40:18,692 --> 01:40:21,892
Speaker 2: like one treat each. He referred to the hot dogs

2141
01:40:22,133 --> 01:40:25,093
Speaker 2: or the onion sausages as treats. Oh, there's not a treat,

2142
01:40:25,372 --> 01:40:27,213
Speaker 2: it's a treat. It so you allowed chips in one

2143
01:40:27,293 --> 01:40:29,973
Speaker 2: treat there was a standard piece of fish, but you

2144
01:40:30,013 --> 01:40:32,452
Speaker 2: allowed one other treat. What did you go for? Always

2145
01:40:32,492 --> 01:40:33,212
Speaker 2: the onion sausage.

2146
01:40:33,253 --> 01:40:36,612
Speaker 3: Oh, the onion sausage. Yeah, such good choice. So eight

2147
01:40:36,652 --> 01:40:38,892
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

2148
01:40:39,572 --> 01:40:41,812
Speaker 3: What are the things and experiences you need to have

2149
01:40:41,893 --> 01:40:45,692
Speaker 3: done to be called a proper New Zealander? Christina? How

2150
01:40:45,732 --> 01:40:45,973
Speaker 3: are you.

2151
01:40:48,293 --> 01:40:50,692
Speaker 2: Sorry? Christina? My phone doesn't just having some glitches?

2152
01:40:50,893 --> 01:40:51,293
Speaker 8: There we go?

2153
01:40:51,812 --> 01:40:52,173
Speaker 32: Are yeh?

2154
01:40:52,293 --> 01:40:52,972
Speaker 2: Finally will hello?

2155
01:40:53,492 --> 01:40:53,652
Speaker 11: Oh?

2156
01:40:53,732 --> 01:40:53,972
Speaker 22: Good?

2157
01:40:54,732 --> 01:40:57,372
Speaker 3: And what your thinking around what you need to do?

2158
01:40:58,093 --> 01:40:58,293
Speaker 22: Look?

2159
01:40:58,333 --> 01:40:59,933
Speaker 9: I think you have to go to an A and

2160
01:41:00,053 --> 01:41:04,013
Speaker 9: P show in a country town in summer where it's

2161
01:41:04,133 --> 01:41:07,652
Speaker 9: thirty degrees and there's a screaming northwester blowing to blow

2162
01:41:07,692 --> 01:41:10,852
Speaker 9: the slies and you have your hot dog with your

2163
01:41:10,893 --> 01:41:14,253
Speaker 9: stawes while you're watching the sheep sharing and the wood chopping,

2164
01:41:14,452 --> 01:41:17,652
Speaker 9: and you're instantly an expert on both, even though you

2165
01:41:17,772 --> 01:41:20,372
Speaker 9: only go once a year to see it. And that's

2166
01:41:20,492 --> 01:41:21,452
Speaker 9: how you become a Kiwi.

2167
01:41:22,293 --> 01:41:28,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also go on a slightly terrifying ride with

2168
01:41:28,452 --> 01:41:29,413
Speaker 2: rusty bolts.

2169
01:41:30,412 --> 01:41:32,053
Speaker 9: Dodgy dodgy equipment.

2170
01:41:33,853 --> 01:41:35,612
Speaker 3: You can trust, yeah, exactly.

2171
01:41:35,612 --> 01:41:38,772
Speaker 9: And you have to be wearing your rotten gun boots

2172
01:41:39,053 --> 01:41:42,372
Speaker 9: and your cheek shirt. And if you're in Canterbury, you've

2173
01:41:42,372 --> 01:41:44,053
Speaker 9: got the pearls on as well because you've got to

2174
01:41:44,093 --> 01:41:47,213
Speaker 9: finish it off. And yeah, you just you just fit

2175
01:41:47,333 --> 01:41:50,492
Speaker 9: in with that whole great feeling of being a Kiwi.

2176
01:41:50,853 --> 01:41:52,653
Speaker 2: Beautiful stender you've just described.

2177
01:41:53,732 --> 01:41:56,972
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful picture anthem behind that that is gorgeous.

2178
01:41:57,333 --> 01:41:59,612
Speaker 2: Someone here talking about the shorts. Not sure why it's

2179
01:41:59,652 --> 01:42:02,012
Speaker 2: so hard to understand. If you're wearing shorts and it's cold,

2180
01:42:02,093 --> 01:42:05,333
Speaker 2: you put your swaneye on. Yeah, well there's that. There's

2181
01:42:05,372 --> 01:42:07,372
Speaker 2: that great lock that you can run for where you

2182
01:42:08,692 --> 01:42:10,452
Speaker 2: so long, your shorts are so short. It looks like

2183
01:42:10,532 --> 01:42:12,213
Speaker 2: you're not wearing any shorts. You're kind of wearing a

2184
01:42:12,412 --> 01:42:15,092
Speaker 2: sort of a sort of a dress situation.

2185
01:42:15,253 --> 01:42:17,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the pub on a Friday night, isn't it. Oh,

2186
01:42:17,612 --> 01:42:19,973
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

2187
01:42:19,973 --> 01:42:22,053
Speaker 3: We gotta play some messages, but love to hear from

2188
01:42:22,133 --> 01:42:24,772
Speaker 3: you about what is on the list. Every proper New

2189
01:42:24,853 --> 01:42:26,213
Speaker 3: Zealander has to tick off.

2190
01:42:26,412 --> 01:42:29,253
Speaker 2: This businesses white bait, no way, the eyes, the eyes.

2191
01:42:30,093 --> 01:42:32,092
Speaker 2: Crunching on the eyes, not the eyes.

2192
01:42:32,692 --> 01:42:34,333
Speaker 3: Love the eyes. The eyes are the best part of

2193
01:42:34,412 --> 01:42:35,973
Speaker 3: white bait. And you've got to go heavy on the

2194
01:42:35,973 --> 01:42:37,933
Speaker 3: white bait egg ratio, no doubt about it.

2195
01:42:38,093 --> 01:42:40,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there is an argument that a white

2196
01:42:40,412 --> 01:42:42,972
Speaker 2: bait patty is just a crunchy egg and butter.

2197
01:42:43,293 --> 01:42:45,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, Piet, my old man was so stingy on the

2198
01:42:45,652 --> 01:42:48,173
Speaker 3: white bait he'd put three white bait in per patty.

2199
01:42:48,213 --> 01:42:49,972
Speaker 3: I'm damn, this is just a bloody fritter.

2200
01:42:50,732 --> 01:42:50,892
Speaker 8: Right.

2201
01:42:50,973 --> 01:42:53,092
Speaker 3: It is twenty two four beag very shortly.

2202
01:42:53,572 --> 01:42:56,612
Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on talk back. It's Matt Heathen

2203
01:42:56,692 --> 01:43:00,452
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty

2204
01:43:00,812 --> 01:43:01,973
Speaker 1: eighty talk b.

2205
01:43:02,973 --> 01:43:05,692
Speaker 3: It is eighteen to four and we've asked the question,

2206
01:43:05,772 --> 01:43:08,732
Speaker 3: what are the lists of things every proper New Zealander

2207
01:43:08,812 --> 01:43:10,492
Speaker 3: has to tick off after Lord said she's a big

2208
01:43:10,572 --> 01:43:12,612
Speaker 3: key for not watching Lord of the Ring. So many

2209
01:43:12,652 --> 01:43:14,372
Speaker 3: great ticks comes through nine two ninety two.

2210
01:43:14,853 --> 01:43:18,012
Speaker 2: Free several or at the butcher for kids K bars

2211
01:43:18,893 --> 01:43:21,412
Speaker 2: and the ten cent mix K bars. Are they still around?

2212
01:43:21,532 --> 01:43:26,173
Speaker 2: Oh my god? I thought they basically, you know, harder

2213
01:43:26,253 --> 01:43:28,853
Speaker 2: than ultimantium.

2214
01:43:29,812 --> 01:43:30,732
Speaker 3: That's a good way to put it.

2215
01:43:30,853 --> 01:43:32,772
Speaker 2: You've got to have a pash by the bonfire at

2216
01:43:32,812 --> 01:43:34,652
Speaker 2: the beach on a holiday at New Years? What about

2217
01:43:34,652 --> 01:43:37,892
Speaker 2: holding your girlfriend's here back or she vombs at New Year's.

2218
01:43:37,973 --> 01:43:40,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very key with, very key with. And then

2219
01:43:40,412 --> 01:43:42,053
Speaker 3: you're a good man for doing that. I'll got to say, mate,

2220
01:43:43,133 --> 01:43:45,412
Speaker 3: getting tars stuck in your feet in summer, that's yeah,

2221
01:43:45,412 --> 01:43:46,293
Speaker 3: I miss those days.

2222
01:43:46,612 --> 01:43:47,892
Speaker 2: See that's quite a south line of thing.

2223
01:43:47,973 --> 01:43:48,412
Speaker 13: Am I wrong?

2224
01:43:48,532 --> 01:43:50,133
Speaker 2: Because I feel like when I was growing up in

2225
01:43:50,173 --> 01:43:52,852
Speaker 2: Dunedin that the tar would often run because it wasn't

2226
01:43:53,372 --> 01:43:55,932
Speaker 2: I could get someone who knows something about how roads

2227
01:43:55,973 --> 01:43:59,732
Speaker 2: work or something about anything. I feel like that the

2228
01:44:00,492 --> 01:44:04,493
Speaker 2: tar where I grew up wasn't calibrated for hot temperatures,

2229
01:44:04,492 --> 01:44:06,213
Speaker 2: and so when you got those couple of thirty degree

2230
01:44:06,293 --> 01:44:08,932
Speaker 2: days a year in Duneda. It were basically like a river.

2231
01:44:09,133 --> 01:44:10,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you get out as a kid and you

2232
01:44:10,572 --> 01:44:12,973
Speaker 3: play with it because you have different stuff up there, right,

2233
01:44:13,053 --> 01:44:14,652
Speaker 3: you go find the little tar bubbles and get it

2234
01:44:14,692 --> 01:44:16,692
Speaker 3: on your fingers and then dare we go? Eight ship?

2235
01:44:16,732 --> 01:44:20,452
Speaker 3: Because it was real hard to get off your fingers. Hey, guys,

2236
01:44:21,053 --> 01:44:22,692
Speaker 3: it would have to be a hung eat made with

2237
01:44:22,812 --> 01:44:25,253
Speaker 3: fire rocks and not railway lins.

2238
01:44:25,452 --> 01:44:27,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have to be. What about digging up

2239
01:44:28,013 --> 01:44:30,013
Speaker 2: your hunging it's not cocked and they're putting it in

2240
01:44:30,133 --> 01:44:30,532
Speaker 2: the oven.

2241
01:44:31,492 --> 01:44:34,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very yeah, Paul, how are you?

2242
01:44:36,133 --> 01:44:37,133
Speaker 8: Yeah? Good thing plaid?

2243
01:44:37,253 --> 01:44:37,772
Speaker 13: How are you going?

2244
01:44:38,093 --> 01:44:41,372
Speaker 3: Very good? So what is compulsory to be considered a

2245
01:44:41,412 --> 01:44:41,852
Speaker 3: good Kiwi?

2246
01:44:42,853 --> 01:44:45,652
Speaker 8: Well, for me, you must have a deep and abiding

2247
01:44:45,772 --> 01:44:47,892
Speaker 8: passion for the music and splittings for sure.

2248
01:44:48,253 --> 01:44:52,333
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, and playing reforming for Electric Avenue next year.

2249
01:44:53,213 --> 01:44:55,492
Speaker 8: Oh cool, we should go to that great.

2250
01:44:55,973 --> 01:44:56,173
Speaker 16: Yeah.

2251
01:44:56,893 --> 01:44:59,452
Speaker 8: When I was when I was a kid, like when

2252
01:44:59,492 --> 01:45:01,053
Speaker 8: I was about eleven or twelve, I think it was

2253
01:45:01,053 --> 01:45:05,932
Speaker 8: the first record my brother ever owned, was True Colors. Yes,

2254
01:45:07,093 --> 01:45:07,852
Speaker 8: I wore it out.

2255
01:45:08,013 --> 01:45:08,173
Speaker 20: Man.

2256
01:45:08,333 --> 01:45:12,133
Speaker 8: We thrashed the pants off the album. You know, we

2257
01:45:12,253 --> 01:45:14,213
Speaker 8: just knew every song over and over? Which song was

2258
01:45:14,253 --> 01:45:16,452
Speaker 8: coming up next to all the lyrics everything. It was

2259
01:45:16,532 --> 01:45:18,572
Speaker 8: just fantastic. Are so cool?

2260
01:45:18,772 --> 01:45:19,293
Speaker 22: I love them?

2261
01:45:19,652 --> 01:45:19,852
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2262
01:45:20,013 --> 01:45:21,653
Speaker 2: So do you think you'd make it a long we'reabouts?

2263
01:45:21,853 --> 01:45:22,173
Speaker 10: Do you love?

2264
01:45:22,213 --> 01:45:23,852
Speaker 2: Paul? If you don't mind me asking, are you close

2265
01:45:23,933 --> 01:45:24,772
Speaker 2: to christ Church?

2266
01:45:26,093 --> 01:45:27,452
Speaker 8: No, mate, I'm in both.

2267
01:45:27,532 --> 01:45:31,372
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah right, yeah, I'll tell you what's an amazing song?

2268
01:45:31,452 --> 01:45:34,172
Speaker 2: Sort of underrated, not like you said, maybe it's not underrated,

2269
01:45:34,213 --> 01:45:36,293
Speaker 2: but that song poor Boy from the True Colours album

2270
01:45:36,412 --> 01:45:41,012
Speaker 2: is such a great song. Oh yeah, and Shark Attack,

2271
01:45:41,572 --> 01:45:42,772
Speaker 2: great shark attack.

2272
01:45:42,933 --> 01:45:46,333
Speaker 8: Shark Attack is the key we standard. I mean, we

2273
01:45:46,412 --> 01:45:47,732
Speaker 8: must be able to belt that out.

2274
01:45:47,893 --> 01:45:51,692
Speaker 2: Sure attack. There was a slaughterer in the water when

2275
01:45:51,732 --> 01:45:57,133
Speaker 2: I thought a shark at that great song? Sorry foot Paul, Yeah, no, great, great,

2276
01:45:57,173 --> 01:45:59,812
Speaker 2: great album. Thank you for your call. Appreciate it.

2277
01:45:59,893 --> 01:46:03,052
Speaker 3: That is a great one. Uh this one here chucking

2278
01:46:03,173 --> 01:46:06,572
Speaker 3: and shucking oysters, celebration and bluff. That is the one

2279
01:46:06,652 --> 01:46:08,652
Speaker 3: thing I haven't done and I feel like big ky

2280
01:46:08,772 --> 01:46:10,812
Speaker 3: for not doing it. But the old Bluff Oyster Festival

2281
01:46:10,933 --> 01:46:11,133
Speaker 3: I was.

2282
01:46:11,213 --> 01:46:13,412
Speaker 2: I was at the Bluff Oyster Festival and competed in

2283
01:46:13,452 --> 01:46:14,492
Speaker 2: an oyster eading competition.

2284
01:46:14,572 --> 01:46:14,973
Speaker 3: How'd you go?

2285
01:46:15,572 --> 01:46:16,973
Speaker 2: Umm? Pretty well?

2286
01:46:17,213 --> 01:46:19,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty well, how many? How many did you get down?

2287
01:46:19,853 --> 01:46:22,133
Speaker 2: So you had to do ten and then a hot sauce,

2288
01:46:22,372 --> 01:46:24,333
Speaker 2: so ten, then a hot sauce ten, then a hot sauce.

2289
01:46:24,692 --> 01:46:26,093
Speaker 2: But I was there with g Lane and he won

2290
01:46:26,173 --> 01:46:30,172
Speaker 2: and it made the paper. Aucklander wins bluff eating competition.

2291
01:46:30,333 --> 01:46:32,173
Speaker 3: He's a hard man to come up against in a

2292
01:46:32,333 --> 01:46:33,692
Speaker 3: oyster eating competition, that wasn't he?

2293
01:46:34,412 --> 01:46:34,612
Speaker 21: Yeah?

2294
01:46:34,812 --> 01:46:37,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty you mean

2295
01:46:37,612 --> 01:46:39,973
Speaker 3: by that I had? One hundred eighty ten eighty is

2296
01:46:39,973 --> 01:46:42,933
Speaker 3: the number to call guys. Ten guitars, crate and a

2297
01:46:43,013 --> 01:46:47,612
Speaker 3: party kiwis and this one here, you're not a kei

2298
01:46:47,652 --> 01:46:50,173
Speaker 3: we till you've had sand in your sandwich at the

2299
01:46:50,213 --> 01:46:50,932
Speaker 3: beach from eron.

2300
01:46:51,412 --> 01:46:54,452
Speaker 2: I don't know what this means. Bucky bongs, Bucky bongs.

2301
01:46:54,532 --> 01:46:55,732
Speaker 2: I don't know what bucky bongs are.

2302
01:46:55,772 --> 01:46:58,852
Speaker 3: If you know what bucky bongs are, hundred eighty ten eighty,

2303
01:46:59,293 --> 01:47:02,133
Speaker 3: I think you do, know, Guys, I told my South

2304
01:47:02,173 --> 01:47:04,333
Speaker 3: African partner that he couldn't call himself a kiwi till

2305
01:47:04,372 --> 01:47:06,772
Speaker 3: he camped in the Corrimandel over Christmas in a two

2306
01:47:06,853 --> 01:47:09,772
Speaker 3: man tent and basic cook. When we met, he said

2307
01:47:09,812 --> 01:47:12,892
Speaker 3: he hated camping and would be a push to go glamping.

2308
01:47:12,933 --> 01:47:15,572
Speaker 3: We camped last summer and he absolutely loved it. True key.

2309
01:47:15,612 --> 01:47:16,052
Speaker 22: We now.

2310
01:47:18,093 --> 01:47:20,213
Speaker 3: Keep those ticks coming through on nine two, nine two,

2311
01:47:20,452 --> 01:47:21,972
Speaker 3: and can you hear from you on oh, eight hundred

2312
01:47:22,013 --> 01:47:24,492
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. We've got to play some messages,

2313
01:47:24,572 --> 01:47:27,933
Speaker 3: but plenty of texts coming through Lessen, Matt and Tyler.

2314
01:47:27,812 --> 01:47:31,532
Speaker 2: Well shocking story about a South African partner trying to

2315
01:47:31,572 --> 01:47:33,412
Speaker 2: become a Kiwi. Oh'll see that this is going to

2316
01:47:33,452 --> 01:47:33,692
Speaker 2: be good.

2317
01:47:34,732 --> 01:47:37,852
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

2318
01:47:38,053 --> 01:47:41,733
Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

2319
01:47:42,053 --> 01:47:44,092
Speaker 1: used talk z' b news talks.

2320
01:47:44,133 --> 01:47:46,652
Speaker 3: It'd be it is ten to four and what are

2321
01:47:46,692 --> 01:47:50,692
Speaker 3: the things? Experiences, places, food that encapsulates ki we aa

2322
01:47:50,812 --> 01:47:52,253
Speaker 3: the things that makes you a good Kiwi.

2323
01:47:52,452 --> 01:47:56,692
Speaker 2: Jimmy Jimmy's Pie says the Texas love Jimmy's Pie. Stop off,

2324
01:47:56,853 --> 01:47:58,932
Speaker 2: We stop off at the shop and I'm going through.

2325
01:47:59,492 --> 01:48:01,372
Speaker 2: Poor Boy is a great song. But I Hope I

2326
01:48:01,492 --> 01:48:04,933
Speaker 2: Never as theatrically dramatic, Yeah, I hope I Never is

2327
01:48:04,933 --> 01:48:07,933
Speaker 2: a great song from the True Colours album. But the

2328
01:48:08,013 --> 01:48:09,772
Speaker 2: big Ballad, the Big tim Fin ballad.

2329
01:48:09,933 --> 01:48:13,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, naked table slides ki we as what's a naked

2330
01:48:13,732 --> 01:48:15,772
Speaker 3: table slide? I suppose it's in the name, isn't it.

2331
01:48:15,933 --> 01:48:18,892
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, fishing for white bait and the beautiful Auckland

2332
01:48:18,933 --> 01:48:24,253
Speaker 2: Harbor needs small hooks though, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, great call.

2333
01:48:24,572 --> 01:48:26,053
Speaker 2: Get a little one of those up yep, and I

2334
01:48:26,133 --> 01:48:29,772
Speaker 2: see if they're long enough. Hey, guys, read that now,

2335
01:48:29,812 --> 01:48:33,732
Speaker 2: it's disgusting. I also won't read out spots on the

2336
01:48:33,853 --> 01:48:35,092
Speaker 2: oven with mum's knives.

2337
01:48:35,293 --> 01:48:35,892
Speaker 3: Probably good thing.

2338
01:48:35,973 --> 01:48:36,572
Speaker 2: I'm going to read.

2339
01:48:37,053 --> 01:48:39,732
Speaker 3: No, it's good call. Uh, it's David.

2340
01:48:39,772 --> 01:48:40,093
Speaker 13: How are you?

2341
01:48:41,173 --> 01:48:41,973
Speaker 30: I'm good, thank you?

2342
01:48:42,652 --> 01:48:43,213
Speaker 3: I reckon.

2343
01:48:44,173 --> 01:48:46,053
Speaker 30: You've got to be a good news onder. If you

2344
01:48:46,173 --> 01:48:50,652
Speaker 30: know our two important comedians which everyone will know, Billa

2345
01:48:50,692 --> 01:48:54,972
Speaker 30: Ty James, Yes, billit Ty James and fred.

2346
01:48:54,812 --> 01:48:57,732
Speaker 2: Dagg oh yes, yeah yeah fred Dagg.

2347
01:48:59,173 --> 01:49:00,452
Speaker 10: And he could fred Dag.

2348
01:49:00,612 --> 01:49:02,692
Speaker 30: I think that's the one. If it ain't for you,

2349
01:49:02,812 --> 01:49:03,412
Speaker 30: gum boots.

2350
01:49:04,213 --> 01:49:08,133
Speaker 2: It was the song he did, yeah, John Clark, fantastic Clark.

2351
01:49:08,572 --> 01:49:13,452
Speaker 30: Yeah, John Clad. He did fred Dag and then unfortunately

2352
01:49:13,973 --> 01:49:17,532
Speaker 30: went to Australia like everyone else, and that was the

2353
01:49:17,692 --> 01:49:21,173
Speaker 30: end of fred Dag. And he's done some very funny

2354
01:49:21,253 --> 01:49:24,732
Speaker 30: things in Australia. Yeah, one of his best ones is

2355
01:49:25,013 --> 01:49:27,492
Speaker 30: that the front of the boat fell off is you

2356
01:49:27,532 --> 01:49:30,013
Speaker 30: can google it be hilarious.

2357
01:49:30,213 --> 01:49:34,333
Speaker 2: Has impersonations of political figures without putting on their voice

2358
01:49:34,372 --> 01:49:35,892
Speaker 2: at all is one of the funniest things. It's one

2359
01:49:35,893 --> 01:49:39,173
Speaker 2: of the most genius ideas, just to impersonate someone but

2360
01:49:39,372 --> 01:49:40,293
Speaker 2: just use your voice.

2361
01:49:40,412 --> 01:49:43,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, the writing and the delivery it is genius, so

2362
01:49:43,452 --> 01:49:43,852
Speaker 3: very good.

2363
01:49:43,933 --> 01:49:46,253
Speaker 2: But the show he did coming up to the Olympic

2364
01:49:46,333 --> 01:49:48,732
Speaker 2: Games and Sydney was great too. I think it was

2365
01:49:48,812 --> 01:49:49,652
Speaker 2: Chris called the Games.

2366
01:49:49,692 --> 01:49:49,893
Speaker 21: It was.

2367
01:49:50,093 --> 01:49:51,972
Speaker 2: That was a great show. Hey, thanks for you called

2368
01:49:52,053 --> 01:49:53,213
Speaker 2: David Adam.

2369
01:49:53,492 --> 01:49:54,093
Speaker 3: What is it for you?

2370
01:49:55,412 --> 01:49:56,013
Speaker 15: Oh man, I.

2371
01:49:56,013 --> 01:49:57,852
Speaker 12: Don't think you're really a key with if you haven't

2372
01:49:58,652 --> 01:50:01,412
Speaker 12: played the spaces at the Corners area, you know.

2373
01:50:01,492 --> 01:50:05,892
Speaker 3: Back in the day. Yeah, yeah, the space when the.

2374
01:50:05,893 --> 01:50:07,812
Speaker 12: Street lights come on, you know it's time to go home.

2375
01:50:07,853 --> 01:50:10,173
Speaker 12: Otherwise I get a cup around the lady.

2376
01:50:12,253 --> 01:50:15,932
Speaker 2: Good on you, Adam. That used to be for me anyway.

2377
01:50:15,973 --> 01:50:17,612
Speaker 2: You had to be able to be good enough for

2378
01:50:17,652 --> 01:50:20,412
Speaker 2: whatever game you were playing, that that you could outplay

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01:50:20,452 --> 01:50:23,173
Speaker 2: your chips being cooked so you were still going and

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01:50:23,213 --> 01:50:24,852
Speaker 2: then your chips had to sit and get cold while

2381
01:50:24,853 --> 01:50:26,492
Speaker 2: you're still going with Gallagher or whatever.

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01:50:26,692 --> 01:50:29,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so true, Philip, how are you?

2383
01:50:31,213 --> 01:50:33,692
Speaker 13: It's got to be a Jimmy's pie and a cold space.

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01:50:33,933 --> 01:50:36,732
Speaker 3: Good on your mate, Good on your mate, Good on you, mate.

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01:50:37,492 --> 01:50:39,532
Speaker 12: We don't care if her old man's got a box

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01:50:39,572 --> 01:50:41,452
Speaker 12: at Eaton Park as long as she turns up with

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01:50:41,572 --> 01:50:43,692
Speaker 12: their pie in the spaces, she's all good.

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01:50:43,973 --> 01:50:44,692
Speaker 2: Good on you, Philip.

2389
01:50:44,812 --> 01:50:46,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that one, your mate.

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01:50:46,532 --> 01:50:48,372
Speaker 2: This is as good a box at Eden Park.

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01:50:48,812 --> 01:50:52,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, good, good on your mate. This is a nice

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01:50:52,692 --> 01:50:55,892
Speaker 3: text from a poms. He's good a guys. I'm from

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01:50:55,933 --> 01:50:59,732
Speaker 3: the UK and hands down, your fish and chips here

2394
01:50:59,893 --> 01:51:02,253
Speaker 3: are better. In the UK. We get that horrible gray

2395
01:51:02,532 --> 01:51:05,973
Speaker 3: striple skin on our fish. Great chat. Disagree with the

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01:51:06,053 --> 01:51:08,213
Speaker 3: source comments though, hines Tomato sauce all the way.

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01:51:08,572 --> 01:51:13,412
Speaker 2: Mmmm, deport high. The electric fences invented by a keywi,

2398
01:51:13,452 --> 01:51:16,772
Speaker 2: says Brent in. This person says, until you have accidentally

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01:51:16,893 --> 01:51:19,253
Speaker 2: peed on an electric fence and got a bolt, you're

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01:51:19,293 --> 01:51:19,972
Speaker 2: not a keyw.

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01:51:20,452 --> 01:51:23,412
Speaker 3: Never done it. Maybe I'll have to. I know you've

2402
01:51:23,452 --> 01:51:25,532
Speaker 3: done it, mate, You've done it a couple of times, haven't.

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01:51:25,772 --> 01:51:27,852
Speaker 2: I have not done that, but I've I've got stuck

2404
01:51:27,933 --> 01:51:31,852
Speaker 2: under an electric fence for Billy and a trolley. That's

2405
01:51:31,933 --> 01:51:34,972
Speaker 2: that battle. The story is. That's about it. That is great,

2406
01:51:35,013 --> 01:51:35,333
Speaker 2: not good.

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01:51:35,492 --> 01:51:38,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred and eighty eighty is the number to.

2408
01:51:38,732 --> 01:51:44,412
Speaker 2: Call not taking yourself too seriously. Opening bottles with a

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01:51:44,452 --> 01:51:46,932
Speaker 2: Sigi lighter, Yep, can do that. That is a crucial

2410
01:51:46,933 --> 01:51:48,973
Speaker 2: school You've got to do massive or if you if

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01:51:49,013 --> 01:51:52,412
Speaker 2: you're married, with your wedding ring, yep, yep, John, What.

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01:51:52,532 --> 01:51:52,893
Speaker 3: Is it for you?

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01:51:54,492 --> 01:51:57,412
Speaker 13: Frozen buzz bars, the frozen buzz bars?

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01:51:58,133 --> 01:52:00,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I'm just trying to picture. I know, our

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01:52:00,933 --> 01:52:05,692
Speaker 2: buzz bar. Frozen buzz bars, frozen buzz bars. Yeah? Are

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01:52:05,732 --> 01:52:07,372
Speaker 2: they still Availok? You still get a buzz bar?

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01:52:07,612 --> 01:52:10,532
Speaker 13: John, Well, I think you can. I actually took my

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01:52:10,612 --> 01:52:11,532
Speaker 13: two grandkids along.

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01:52:11,572 --> 01:52:13,692
Speaker 12: I said, now I've got a treat for you, brought

2420
01:52:13,732 --> 01:52:15,852
Speaker 12: them frozen buzz bars, and I thought they thought it

2421
01:52:15,973 --> 01:52:16,812
Speaker 12: from another planet.

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01:52:18,772 --> 01:52:21,732
Speaker 3: Well because what was in them? It was marshmallow and

2423
01:52:21,812 --> 01:52:24,932
Speaker 3: then it was kind of a caramel topping, all covered chop.

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01:52:25,412 --> 01:52:27,213
Speaker 13: Yeah, cho, that's it.

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01:52:27,532 --> 01:52:28,093
Speaker 22: That's the one.

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01:52:28,293 --> 01:52:29,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was good.

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01:52:29,652 --> 01:52:30,372
Speaker 2: Good on you, John.

2428
01:52:30,732 --> 01:52:32,972
Speaker 3: Remember old tangy fruits, so they're still doing tangy fruits.

2429
01:52:33,013 --> 01:52:35,213
Speaker 3: Tinging fruits, rolling the tangy fruits down the old movie

2430
01:52:35,293 --> 01:52:37,892
Speaker 3: theater alleyway or corridor while.

2431
01:52:37,692 --> 01:52:38,893
Speaker 2: They got rid of the sniffers.

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01:52:39,333 --> 01:52:40,213
Speaker 19: Oh yeah, that's right.

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01:52:41,133 --> 01:52:44,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, being able to tap a public phone, it's high level.

2434
01:52:45,093 --> 01:52:46,012
Speaker 2: I mean, that's old school.

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01:52:46,173 --> 01:52:47,372
Speaker 3: That is very old school.

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01:52:47,412 --> 01:52:49,892
Speaker 2: But god, I don't think I don't think it still

2437
01:52:49,933 --> 01:52:52,772
Speaker 2: works the tepic of Yeah, wasn't there a way you

2438
01:52:52,933 --> 01:52:57,293
Speaker 2: used to be able to get around toll calls by

2439
01:52:57,372 --> 01:52:59,732
Speaker 2: doing something? That's some kind of tapping you could do.

2440
01:53:00,093 --> 01:53:02,692
Speaker 3: Wasn't it when you snapped the phone card and you

2441
01:53:02,812 --> 01:53:06,572
Speaker 3: could squeeze another call out of it? I desperately remember

2442
01:53:06,812 --> 01:53:08,612
Speaker 3: you hit the phone card head tim but on it.

2443
01:53:08,692 --> 01:53:10,652
Speaker 3: If you ran out of money, you just snap it

2444
01:53:10,692 --> 01:53:12,093
Speaker 3: and put it in. It would give you one more

2445
01:53:12,133 --> 01:53:14,053
Speaker 3: go all right, Maybe I'm misremembering that.

2446
01:53:14,293 --> 01:53:16,013
Speaker 2: So scamming telecom.

2447
01:53:16,053 --> 01:53:19,293
Speaker 3: They deserved it. They deserved it, all right. I think

2448
01:53:19,333 --> 01:53:20,253
Speaker 3: that is us for today.

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01:53:20,412 --> 01:53:22,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for listening for the show.

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01:53:22,492 --> 01:53:24,412
Speaker 2: Thank you for all your calls and text We had

2451
01:53:24,452 --> 01:53:26,812
Speaker 2: a great time. The pot will be up soon if

2452
01:53:26,853 --> 01:53:29,412
Speaker 2: you missed anything. The Powerful Heather too Percy Ellen is

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01:53:29,492 --> 01:53:32,772
Speaker 2: up next. But right now, Tyler, my good friend tell me,

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01:53:33,293 --> 01:53:34,293
Speaker 2: Why am I playing the song?

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01:53:34,412 --> 01:53:37,052
Speaker 3: This is a bit of splitty in sweet dreams.

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01:53:37,213 --> 01:53:37,932
Speaker 22: What a tune?

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01:53:39,133 --> 01:53:41,253
Speaker 2: Yes is my favorite splitting songs. It's from the second

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01:53:41,333 --> 01:53:43,772
Speaker 2: Thoughts album. See I'm a credible splittings fans. I like

2459
01:53:43,853 --> 01:53:44,492
Speaker 2: the early stuff.

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01:53:44,572 --> 01:53:45,093
Speaker 3: Yeah nice.

2461
01:53:45,213 --> 01:53:47,333
Speaker 2: This is such a good song, so underrated.

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01:53:47,572 --> 01:53:50,532
Speaker 3: It's lovely and it is very key. We area loving

2463
01:53:50,572 --> 01:53:52,412
Speaker 3: split in jeans.

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01:53:55,572 --> 01:53:56,772
Speaker 2: Absolute tune.

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01:53:56,973 --> 01:53:57,293
Speaker 13: Love it.

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01:54:01,213 --> 01:54:03,532
Speaker 2: Until tomorrow. Wherever you are and whatever you're doing, give

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01:54:03,612 --> 01:54:05,692
Speaker 2: a taste the key We from us love yes and

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01:54:05,853 --> 01:54:09,773
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow afternoon for another edition of metinto Afternoons.

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01:54:10,173 --> 01:54:12,052
Speaker 2: Know me the Bond.

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01:54:12,652 --> 01:54:18,692
Speaker 14: I'm so the bond of furniture, an ornamental, a racking chair.

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01:54:19,013 --> 01:54:20,972
Speaker 4: It's all very well.

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01:54:21,253 --> 01:54:24,773
Speaker 3: To grind out sweet dreams.

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01:54:26,532 --> 01:54:27,093
Speaker 23: Everyone.

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01:54:27,692 --> 01:54:28,133
Speaker 16: So on

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01:54:35,373 --> 01:54:37,933
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