1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,627 --> 00:00:15,787 Speaker 2: Game four in the five match T twenty series between 4 00:00:15,827 --> 00:00:19,707 Speaker 2: the black Caps and South Africa. Seven point fifteen is 5 00:00:19,947 --> 00:00:22,667 Speaker 2: the scheduled time for the first ball. New Zealand leads 6 00:00:22,667 --> 00:00:25,467 Speaker 2: the series two to one after their eight wicket victory 7 00:00:25,787 --> 00:00:32,067 Speaker 2: at Eden Park in Auckland on Friday night. 8 00:00:33,307 --> 00:00:45,387 Speaker 3: So well struck for four? How Robinson? Easy ass for Tim? 9 00:00:45,467 --> 00:00:50,427 Speaker 2: Robinson crunches that before black Caps better Tim Robinson was 10 00:00:50,467 --> 00:00:53,027 Speaker 2: out just before the final runs were hit on Friday night, 11 00:00:53,027 --> 00:00:55,587 Speaker 2: He joins us. Now you've got the series leading now, Tim, 12 00:00:55,907 --> 00:00:58,467 Speaker 2: with wins in games two and three, How important were 13 00:00:58,507 --> 00:01:01,387 Speaker 2: those performances and those victories to put yourself in a 14 00:01:01,427 --> 00:01:04,347 Speaker 2: position now to win the series today? After I guess 15 00:01:04,347 --> 00:01:07,947 Speaker 2: what would have been a slightly just appointing showing in 16 00:01:08,067 --> 00:01:09,227 Speaker 2: Game one of the series. 17 00:01:10,107 --> 00:01:11,227 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely it's been. 18 00:01:11,267 --> 00:01:12,947 Speaker 5: It was a little bit of a shaky start for 19 00:01:12,987 --> 00:01:17,107 Speaker 5: that first game, but yeah, a few good performances in 20 00:01:17,627 --> 00:01:19,867 Speaker 5: games two and three have sort of called it back 21 00:01:19,907 --> 00:01:20,227 Speaker 5: for us. 22 00:01:20,227 --> 00:01:22,347 Speaker 4: But I think it's more important that we can put 23 00:01:22,347 --> 00:01:22,947 Speaker 4: the foot on the. 24 00:01:22,867 --> 00:01:25,387 Speaker 5: Throat a little bit and make sure that so the 25 00:01:25,387 --> 00:01:27,347 Speaker 5: Africa don't get a sniff in the series. 26 00:01:27,387 --> 00:01:29,747 Speaker 4: So yeah, it'll be obviously. 27 00:01:29,347 --> 00:01:32,987 Speaker 5: Another game tonight and a new challenge, so hopefully we 28 00:01:33,027 --> 00:01:35,747 Speaker 5: can adapt to that quickly and put another good performance 29 00:01:35,827 --> 00:01:36,107 Speaker 5: up there. 30 00:01:36,187 --> 00:01:39,307 Speaker 2: You've kept there batting under wraps really well in games 31 00:01:39,347 --> 00:01:41,507 Speaker 2: two and three. One O seven in Game two one 32 00:01:41,547 --> 00:01:43,227 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six for nine, the other night in 33 00:01:43,227 --> 00:01:46,227 Speaker 2: Auckland in Game three and a game T twenty that's 34 00:01:46,267 --> 00:01:48,787 Speaker 2: dominated by the bat. How much pride does the team 35 00:01:48,827 --> 00:01:51,427 Speaker 2: take in the way you've bowled and fielded in the 36 00:01:51,467 --> 00:01:52,587 Speaker 2: last couple of games. 37 00:01:53,387 --> 00:01:54,147 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. 38 00:01:54,147 --> 00:01:57,427 Speaker 5: I think our bowlers are obviously world class, and they've 39 00:01:57,507 --> 00:02:00,227 Speaker 5: showed their class over the last three games. I also 40 00:02:00,267 --> 00:02:05,387 Speaker 5: think that the wickets we've been playing on haven't haven't traditionally, 41 00:02:05,507 --> 00:02:08,627 Speaker 5: you know, being yourrational T twenty wickets, they've they've had 42 00:02:08,667 --> 00:02:10,587 Speaker 5: a little bit of assistance for the bowlers, which I 43 00:02:10,627 --> 00:02:13,027 Speaker 5: think is quite a good thing, a bit more of 44 00:02:13,067 --> 00:02:16,307 Speaker 5: an even content contest between bat and ball. So yeah, 45 00:02:16,507 --> 00:02:18,107 Speaker 5: I mean, it doesn't help when you're when you're trying 46 00:02:18,107 --> 00:02:20,627 Speaker 5: to face lockey Ferguson at bowling one hundred and fifty 47 00:02:20,707 --> 00:02:22,827 Speaker 5: k's and we're trying to face Kyle Jameson who's bowling 48 00:02:22,867 --> 00:02:25,267 Speaker 5: it from bloody seven feet two, you know, So it's 49 00:02:25,307 --> 00:02:28,827 Speaker 5: definitely challenging for the South African, for the South African batters. 50 00:02:28,827 --> 00:02:31,147 Speaker 5: And I am sure as sure as he wouldn't want 51 00:02:31,147 --> 00:02:32,707 Speaker 5: to wouldn't want to face us, that's sure. 52 00:02:33,147 --> 00:02:35,187 Speaker 2: Looking at Locky Ferguson bowl the other night, was he 53 00:02:35,227 --> 00:02:38,227 Speaker 2: four overs one for nine, which in T twenty cricket's 54 00:02:38,347 --> 00:02:40,547 Speaker 2: just you know, unheard of, isn't it. You feel like 55 00:02:40,587 --> 00:02:42,827 Speaker 2: he could go for a few because he does so 56 00:02:43,147 --> 00:02:45,307 Speaker 2: bowl so quick and you know he just can fly 57 00:02:45,987 --> 00:02:48,387 Speaker 2: for boundaries or even for six at Eden Park. What 58 00:02:48,507 --> 00:02:50,747 Speaker 2: is it about Lockey Ferguson that is that is so 59 00:02:50,827 --> 00:02:52,227 Speaker 2: effective in T twenty cricket? 60 00:02:53,347 --> 00:02:56,107 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, I think it is equally impressive view 61 00:02:56,107 --> 00:02:58,267 Speaker 5: of being at Eden Park where those straight boundaries are 62 00:02:58,267 --> 00:02:59,347 Speaker 5: obviously quite short. 63 00:02:59,947 --> 00:03:01,907 Speaker 4: But I think what makes him different. 64 00:03:01,907 --> 00:03:04,667 Speaker 5: I mean, he's obviously got his raw pace, which is 65 00:03:04,747 --> 00:03:07,667 Speaker 5: which is just uncomfortable as a bad but. 66 00:03:07,667 --> 00:03:08,787 Speaker 4: He also swings the ball. 67 00:03:08,907 --> 00:03:12,027 Speaker 5: He's got great control of his length and he's got 68 00:03:12,107 --> 00:03:14,067 Speaker 5: very deceptive slow balls as well, which I think is 69 00:03:14,147 --> 00:03:16,667 Speaker 5: very which is crucial in the T twenty games, especially 70 00:03:16,667 --> 00:03:19,107 Speaker 5: in the in the modern era where we're bad as 71 00:03:19,107 --> 00:03:19,987 Speaker 5: a trying to. 72 00:03:19,987 --> 00:03:20,987 Speaker 4: Give it a real good whack. 73 00:03:21,107 --> 00:03:25,387 Speaker 5: So no, he's got pace, he's got skill, he's got yeah, 74 00:03:25,507 --> 00:03:28,747 Speaker 5: variability and and and a little bit of mystery as 75 00:03:28,747 --> 00:03:31,267 Speaker 5: well with the slow balls. So he's sort of well, 76 00:03:31,307 --> 00:03:33,747 Speaker 5: he is the whole package as a bowler, and yeah, 77 00:03:33,747 --> 00:03:36,227 Speaker 5: he's very very difficult to face to. 78 00:03:36,227 --> 00:03:38,867 Speaker 2: The batting you reckon that beginnings is coming for you 79 00:03:38,907 --> 00:03:41,147 Speaker 2: in this series, maybe even tonight in your hometown. 80 00:03:42,427 --> 00:03:43,627 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope so, pint. 81 00:03:43,747 --> 00:03:46,307 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a T twenty cricket is sort of as 82 00:03:46,987 --> 00:03:48,947 Speaker 5: it can be a little bit of a lottery sometimes 83 00:03:48,987 --> 00:03:51,747 Speaker 5: and and I'm hoping that that might get a little 84 00:03:51,747 --> 00:03:54,707 Speaker 5: bit of luck that goes my way and try and 85 00:03:54,707 --> 00:03:56,787 Speaker 5: put on a bit of an entertaining performance for crowd. 86 00:03:56,787 --> 00:04:00,147 Speaker 5: But yeah, like it's just it's sort of about riding 87 00:04:00,147 --> 00:04:02,307 Speaker 5: those ebbs and flows, and you have bad days and 88 00:04:02,307 --> 00:04:03,227 Speaker 5: you have good days. 89 00:04:02,987 --> 00:04:04,907 Speaker 4: And it's sort of just about trying to be calm 90 00:04:04,987 --> 00:04:06,107 Speaker 4: through through the more. 91 00:04:06,667 --> 00:04:09,427 Speaker 2: I've always been really curious about the balance you try 92 00:04:09,427 --> 00:04:13,027 Speaker 2: and strike in T twenty between aggression but also playing 93 00:04:13,067 --> 00:04:14,867 Speaker 2: smart cricket. I mean, you don't have much time to 94 00:04:14,867 --> 00:04:18,307 Speaker 2: mess about do you have you changed your approach, you know, 95 00:04:18,427 --> 00:04:21,387 Speaker 2: to T twenty batting, you know, over your time playing 96 00:04:21,387 --> 00:04:22,427 Speaker 2: this format of the game. 97 00:04:23,707 --> 00:04:26,507 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think one thing that has been really important 98 00:04:26,947 --> 00:04:28,947 Speaker 5: for T twenty cricket and trying to find an element 99 00:04:28,987 --> 00:04:32,787 Speaker 5: of consistency with it is, you know, we talk a 100 00:04:32,827 --> 00:04:35,947 Speaker 5: lot about in the Black Caps about adapting to conditions 101 00:04:35,987 --> 00:04:38,347 Speaker 5: and whether the wicket is flat, and what I mean 102 00:04:38,387 --> 00:04:40,987 Speaker 5: by flat is not you know, not nipping off the 103 00:04:41,027 --> 00:04:44,147 Speaker 5: scene too much or not, or a very even sort 104 00:04:44,147 --> 00:04:47,027 Speaker 5: of pace and balance on the surface. Then you know, 105 00:04:47,067 --> 00:04:48,827 Speaker 5: then as far as I'm concerned, that's a green light 106 00:04:48,907 --> 00:04:52,827 Speaker 5: to try and really really get after the game. But 107 00:04:52,907 --> 00:04:54,827 Speaker 5: on the other hand, if it's if it's a little 108 00:04:54,867 --> 00:04:57,267 Speaker 5: bit spongy or the balls not quite coming on to 109 00:04:57,307 --> 00:04:59,627 Speaker 5: the bat the way you'd like it, then that's about 110 00:04:59,627 --> 00:05:05,267 Speaker 5: adjusting and putting away certain shots and adapting your game 111 00:05:05,747 --> 00:05:08,987 Speaker 5: that's suitable on that surface. So I think there's something 112 00:05:09,027 --> 00:05:10,947 Speaker 5: I'm learning and trying to develop a little bit more 113 00:05:10,947 --> 00:05:14,227 Speaker 5: as I continue to play, hopefully, But yeah, that's sort 114 00:05:14,267 --> 00:05:16,147 Speaker 5: of one of the main things I would I'd say 115 00:05:16,147 --> 00:05:18,347 Speaker 5: in this in this TEA twenty game, when you when 116 00:05:18,347 --> 00:05:20,907 Speaker 5: you're playing on such different wickets all the time, is 117 00:05:20,907 --> 00:05:22,947 Speaker 5: trying to adjust it Accordingly. 118 00:05:22,827 --> 00:05:25,107 Speaker 2: You've had twenty seven games of tea twenty cricket for 119 00:05:25,107 --> 00:05:27,067 Speaker 2: New Zealand. Now, do you feel a bit more established, 120 00:05:27,427 --> 00:05:29,907 Speaker 2: a bit more comfortable in the environment now than perhaps 121 00:05:29,947 --> 00:05:31,627 Speaker 2: you did when you first came into the black Caps 122 00:05:31,667 --> 00:05:32,347 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. 123 00:05:33,467 --> 00:05:36,347 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this is it definitely a I'm trying 124 00:05:36,347 --> 00:05:39,227 Speaker 5: to bank as many you know, all these all these 125 00:05:39,267 --> 00:05:41,867 Speaker 5: great experiences that I'm privileged enough to have, you know, 126 00:05:41,947 --> 00:05:44,867 Speaker 5: playing in Pakistan and in Sri Lanka at home, all 127 00:05:44,907 --> 00:05:47,987 Speaker 5: these kinds of places sort of develop you as a 128 00:05:47,987 --> 00:05:51,627 Speaker 5: cricketer and as a person. So I definitely don't I 129 00:05:51,627 --> 00:05:55,387 Speaker 5: don't feel comfortable. We never get comfortable otherwise otherwise you 130 00:05:55,427 --> 00:05:57,507 Speaker 5: take things too cheap and take things for granted, which 131 00:05:57,507 --> 00:06:01,507 Speaker 5: I definitely don't do. But yeah, like, I love playing 132 00:06:01,547 --> 00:06:03,947 Speaker 5: for New Zealand. It's it's such a fantastic privilege and 133 00:06:04,147 --> 00:06:07,787 Speaker 5: I'm just constantly pinching myself and and sort of just 134 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:09,467 Speaker 5: always hungry to play more, you know. 135 00:06:09,587 --> 00:06:11,107 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to be a good depth as well 136 00:06:11,107 --> 00:06:12,667 Speaker 2: in the black Caps in a lot of positions at 137 00:06:12,667 --> 00:06:15,387 Speaker 2: the moment, but particularly with the batting depth. Does it 138 00:06:15,427 --> 00:06:18,347 Speaker 2: feel quite quite competitive, you know, in a healthy way 139 00:06:18,427 --> 00:06:20,867 Speaker 2: for batting spots and the white ball sides at the moment? 140 00:06:21,787 --> 00:06:22,867 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it does. 141 00:06:22,987 --> 00:06:25,587 Speaker 5: And I mean everyone talks about competitiveness for spots is 142 00:06:26,187 --> 00:06:28,227 Speaker 5: a really good thing, and I'm no different. I think, 143 00:06:28,267 --> 00:06:31,787 Speaker 5: you know, we're constantly pushing each other to evolve and 144 00:06:31,347 --> 00:06:34,547 Speaker 5: to think differently about the game and to think critically 145 00:06:34,587 --> 00:06:37,747 Speaker 5: about how you're going and what options and things that 146 00:06:37,787 --> 00:06:40,547 Speaker 5: you're taking. So no, I think it's a fantastic thing. 147 00:06:40,587 --> 00:06:43,707 Speaker 5: And the environment we have at the black Caps is 148 00:06:43,947 --> 00:06:48,067 Speaker 5: absolutely fantastic. You've got a lot of older guys who 149 00:06:48,827 --> 00:06:51,867 Speaker 5: have a huge depth of knowledge and a huge willingness 150 00:06:51,867 --> 00:06:54,627 Speaker 5: to pass that pass that down the ranks. So it's 151 00:06:54,667 --> 00:06:57,747 Speaker 5: a fantastic environment to be a part of and accelerates 152 00:06:57,787 --> 00:06:58,227 Speaker 5: you learning. 153 00:06:59,267 --> 00:07:00,987 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's great. 154 00:07:01,227 --> 00:07:03,707 Speaker 2: Is this your first international at the stadium? I don't 155 00:07:03,747 --> 00:07:05,827 Speaker 2: think you've played for the black Caps at the stadium, 156 00:07:05,907 --> 00:07:07,227 Speaker 2: have you? 157 00:07:07,267 --> 00:07:09,867 Speaker 4: No, I haven't. I've run the drinks a couple of times. 158 00:07:09,987 --> 00:07:11,707 Speaker 2: And I'm glad I brought it up. Yeah that's great. 159 00:07:12,027 --> 00:07:15,187 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, no, that's good. So I've been anticipating 160 00:07:15,187 --> 00:07:16,627 Speaker 4: this moment for a long time. Piney. 161 00:07:16,667 --> 00:07:20,067 Speaker 5: To be honest, I'm really excited to get in the 162 00:07:20,107 --> 00:07:24,387 Speaker 5: swirling caketon and and get under a few high balls. 163 00:07:24,387 --> 00:07:27,067 Speaker 4: So no, it'll be good. I can't wait. 164 00:07:27,427 --> 00:07:30,147 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't wait either. The series has been excellent 165 00:07:30,147 --> 00:07:32,147 Speaker 2: to watch it. It's Wellington tonight. Look forward to seeing 166 00:07:32,147 --> 00:07:34,307 Speaker 2: how Game four plays out. There's always some thanks for 167 00:07:34,307 --> 00:07:36,187 Speaker 2: taking the time for a chat mate, Really appreciate it. 168 00:07:36,347 --> 00:07:37,787 Speaker 4: No, thanks very much, Piney. Cheers. 169 00:07:37,947 --> 00:07:40,067 Speaker 2: Good on you mate, Tim Robinson there. I'm always a 170 00:07:40,067 --> 00:07:43,267 Speaker 2: lot of fun to chat to. His first international game 171 00:07:43,947 --> 00:07:47,307 Speaker 2: in his hometown. Tonight seven fifteen is when that game 172 00:07:47,427 --> 00:07:48,267 Speaker 2: gets Underwag Jim. 173 00:07:48,747 --> 00:07:51,907 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine. Listen live 174 00:07:52,027 --> 00:07:55,307 Speaker 1: to News Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow 175 00:07:55,347 --> 00:07:56,907 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.