1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Another new report showing some Maori kids are falling through 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: the cracks. The Independent Children's Monitor found all the usual 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: stats for those in state care. Here's an interesting one. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Ninety two percent of those in trouble with Youth Justice 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: had a previous care and protection concern raised about them 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: when they were younger. In other words, childhood at home 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: was bad, then they act out. Tracy Shipton CEO and 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: voice of fuck itong with my is with me? Tracy, 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: good morning. 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning. 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Good to have you on this program. Does this report 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: tell us anything new? 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't tell us as an organization anything new 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: because we've been talking with young people for years now 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: and getting their view on the care system, so it's 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: not a big surprise to us. 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: So do you have any hope anything is going to change? 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't matter what government's in place, And 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: this report says that even the interventions that have been 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: put in place, you can't accurately tell whether they're having 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: much of an effect. 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think what the report does tell us is 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: that there's opportunities to actually make impactful intervention really early. 24 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: It tells us that ninety two percent go on from 25 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: care and protection concern raised to youth Justice tells us 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: there was a window somewhere earlier to do something, And 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: I guess for us, that's the challenge. What can we 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: do earlier? What can we do as a collective community 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: that's going to really impact positively the lives of these 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: young of these young people. 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: The Minister of Finance and Bill English before her would say, 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: the answer is social investment, you target These are the 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: exactly the young people you want to be targeting, and 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: you already have these red flags right that they've been 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: in a home where there's been a care and protection issue. 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Is that an answer? 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: I think well, what certainly is an answer is saying 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: that we should invest in young people. Like if we 39 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: think about the language and what we're saying in these 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: reports is we want better outcomes. What's a better outcome? 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: A better outcome is a childhood where somebody emerges from 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: it hole. We have opportunities here, It's not happening, it's 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: this is a stark reminder that if we get an 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: early wrap around gives lots of support to Farno and 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: young people at the right opportunity, Yes, we can make 46 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: a difference. I am totally optimist that we can do that. 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Tracy, appreciate your time this morning. Tracy Shipton, CEO of Voice, 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: Fuck Itong with mine. 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