1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Big changes coming to our building consenting process could be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: on the way. Currently, there are sixty seven building consent 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: authorities who receive and approved consents in New Zealand, sixty 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: seven of them, with each one taking a slightly different 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: approach to the rules. So building can construction. Mister Chris 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Pink he's proposing changes to create larger regional authorities to 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: help standardize the process and make things quicker. Malcolm Fleming's 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: in New Zealand Certified Builders Chief Executive. He's with us 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: this morning. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Malcolm, good morning, Good morning, Rayan. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: You're happy about these changes. Do you have any idea 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: how much quicker it could make the process? 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Well? First of all, Ryan, we support his answer. Certified 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: Biller supports this general move towards quicker the processes for 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: building consent authorities to work through building consents. As you're 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: pointed out in your introduction, there are sixty seven different 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: building councils around YOURSELD and we often have a different 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: interpretation of a building consent. Example, a designer a builder 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: in christ Urge maybe submitting a building concent in that 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: jurisdiction and that building concent of flying through without any 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: problems the same building consent presented, say in a white 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: categist as an example, what have some issues? And that 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: creates inconsistency, It creates time and delays. Time is cost 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: for a project. 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Speaking of time wait times, we're hearing up to two 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: months for a building consent, eighteen months for a resource 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: concent Does that sound about rain? 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Building consents have become down from where they were in 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: the peak. And remember Ian, it wasn't that long ago 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: that we were talking two years in fact, that we 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: have an artificial peak of fifty thousand building concent applications 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: in this country. The previous we've just got over forty 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: thousand two years before in twenty twenty one, and that 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: was the first time forty thousand have been exceeded since 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: the mid and eighteen seventies. So there's a lot of 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: pressure on the system right now. Building consents are tracking 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: through at a reasonable rate. 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: Okay, what about the private consenting providers? This is for inspections. 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: People are worried about this because of leaky homes and 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: if we reintroduce private consenting providers that you have more 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: problems on their hands. Would you are you okay with 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: that suggestion? 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: I'm more rather prefer some of the options they've been 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: looking at in this paper. Other options, and again there 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: is a lack of detail, but options along the lines 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 2: of regional bcas sort of amalgamation of some of those 47 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: existing bcas I would imagine, as we've been talking about 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: agency be our own submission to the regulator around a 49 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: large metro drawing and being unified with a number of 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: the smaller councils. They've got really good capacity within the 51 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: system itself, reads emerging creating greater We're all capacity within 52 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: those organizations to help us go be able to carry 53 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: it through. At the moment we're a little lower and 54 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: building contents more likely worthy just about four years before COVID, 55 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: but they'll up at again the next couple of years. 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: The government's quite quite right to look at this. 57 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: Now, all right. So it sounds like you they're doing 58 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: the right thing and how they're doing a different story, Malcolm, 59 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Malcolm Fleming, the New Zealand Certified 60 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Builders Chief Executive with us this morning. For more from 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: News Talks the B listen live on air or online, 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: and keep our shows with you wherever you go with 63 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: our podcasts on IR Radio