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Speaker 2: Afternoon. Welcome to the show coming up today the Nurses

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Speaker 2: Union on the twenty four hour twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: visiting hours at Hospitals. We'll have a chat to the

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Speaker 2: tourism mister Louise Upston about the announcement about Eden Park.

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Speaker 2: I'll get you across that and we'll speak to one

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Speaker 2: of the priests who chained themselves to Nickola Willis's electorate office.

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Speaker 2: Before speaking to Nichola.

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Speaker 3: Willis, Heather DUPERSYLA, do you want the.

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Speaker 2: Latest for the hospital twenty four to seven visiting policy.

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Speaker 2: The latest is that Health New Zealand is now reviewing it.

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Speaker 2: So their statement says Health New Zealand will review the

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Speaker 2: far no family support policy following recent feedback. Now what

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Speaker 2: that means basically is, Wow, people hated it more than

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Speaker 2: they expected we would and so they're going to rethink

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Speaker 2: it now. I don't know that the policy was actually

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Speaker 2: as bad as you might have thought when you first

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Speaker 2: heard it, right at first blush, what it sounded like

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Speaker 2: was hospitals were changing their visiting policy to basically allow

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Speaker 2: family and friends just wander on and any time of

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Speaker 2: day and night. But then when you actually hear the details,

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Speaker 2: it sounds a little bit more controlled. It sounds like

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Speaker 2: there is one designated family member who would be given

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Speaker 2: permission to stay around the clock with someone vulnerable, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, is actually what, as far as I

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Speaker 2: can tell, already happens when someone needs constant help or

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Speaker 2: as close to death. One of the team here was

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Speaker 2: in hospital last year. The lady in and the bed

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Speaker 2: next door had her daughter with her all day and

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Speaker 2: all night to help out. When my husband was in

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Speaker 2: hospital a couple of years back, we often had someone

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Speaker 2: with him outside of normal visiting hours to help out,

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Speaker 2: just keep an eye on him, Which begs the question,

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Speaker 2: if it's normal, if it's basically normal and fairly controlled,

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Speaker 2: what happened, Why couldn't they just say that. Why couldn't

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Speaker 2: Health New Zealand just come out and say so that

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Speaker 2: everyone understood. It's not a major change. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a party in the room next door.

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Speaker 2: How is it that a government department with at last

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Speaker 2: count one hundred and twenty five communication staff has such

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Speaker 2: a hard time just communicating. I will remind you, by

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Speaker 2: the way, that this is the second time that Health

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Speaker 2: New Zealand has been forced to immediately abandon a policy

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Speaker 2: within hours of announcing it. Remember it was literally the

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Speaker 2: fifteenth of last month. It's the fifteenth today. It's the

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Speaker 2: fifteenth of last month that they announced they were banning marshmallows,

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Speaker 2: a public outcry because it was a stupid idea, and

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Speaker 2: now the marshmallows are back today fifteenth of the month.

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Speaker 2: It's the visiting policy, public outcry. Now the policy is banned.

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Speaker 2: It hardly instills confidence in Health New Zealand, does it?

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Speaker 3: Hither? Duplicy ellen.

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Speaker 2: As coming right? Nine two ninety two is the text number.

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Speaker 2: Suspicion obviously, is that they haven't made it a firm

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Speaker 2: do their work for them, because they don't want to

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Speaker 2: employ enough people to work in the hospitals, which wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be all that nutty, would it anyway. So we're going

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Speaker 2: to have a chat to the nurses union about that

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Speaker 2: after five now Ea, scooters are becoming more risky. Apparently

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Speaker 2: incidents have doubled in the last five years. So acc

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Speaker 2: data recorded more than one two hundred injury claims in

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Speaker 2: the last year, which cost taxpayers fourteen and a half

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Speaker 2: the list. It's christ Church, over four hundred claims, more

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Speaker 2: than any other city out there. Now. Jackson Love is

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Speaker 2: one of the co founders of Flamingo Scooters. Hi, Jackson,

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Speaker 2: I hear that.

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Speaker 3: How are you going?

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Speaker 4: Very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? What's going on? Why is christ Church so bad?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting, isn't it. I think as a key

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Speaker 2: What do you think it is though, I would have

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Speaker 2: just thought that a city like Wellington, which is much

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Speaker 3: Why christ Church, now that is interesting?

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Speaker 5: I think it's really important to understand that not all

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Speaker 5: these scooters are the same. So shared these scooters like Flamingo,

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Speaker 5: they capped at twenty five kilometers an hour, they've built

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Speaker 5: But privately owned these scooters, on the other hand, you

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Speaker 2: I think, you know what, I'm going to come back

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Speaker 2: this Jackson. I actually think the people that I see

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Speaker 2: not necessarily yours, but any hired scooters like yours. I

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Speaker 2: think it's the guys who own their own scooters who

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Speaker 5: Interesting, well, yeah, that's an interesting per sets perspective. I

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Speaker 5: think at Flamingo we work really closely with our council

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Speaker 5: partners to manage speed and riding behavior through a number

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Speaker 5: of different measures. That that includes geo fence, low speed,

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Speaker 2: That's no mode, that's not because the greatest threat to anybody, right,

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Speaker 2: let's be honest about it. The greatest threat to anybody

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Speaker 2: is I'm standing. I don't care if one of your

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Speaker 2: getting hurt doing the thing that they love. But the

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Speaker 2: thing that's a risk to me is that I'm just

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Speaker 2: standing on the foot path and one of them, you know,

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Speaker 2: They go down the footpath real fast. How do you

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Speaker 5: Well, actually, our scooters go a lot slower than the

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Speaker 5: privately owned one.

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Speaker 2: Do you not just say twenty five ks an hour?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but there's other there's areas where.

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Speaker 2: That'll take me out so badly, man, Like I would

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Speaker 2: I probably be concussed after that, wouldn't I.

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Speaker 5: I think the measures that we have and it's not

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Speaker 5: just through the app, it's not just the controls on

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Speaker 2: Wow who cares. This is what I want to know.

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Speaker 2: I love what you people don You should go work

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Speaker 2: for Health New Zealand. You're better at communications than they are. Listen,

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Speaker 2: tell me how we deal with this. Right, So, if

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Speaker 2: the greatest threat to everybody else is the is people

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Speaker 2: on a hide scooter going really fast down the footpath,

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Speaker 2: how do we actually get that to stop? What can

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Speaker 5: We welcome the recent government announcement that each scooters will

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Speaker 5: soon be allowed to operate in bike lanes. I think

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Speaker 5: it's a really positive step that creates dedicated and separated

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Speaker 2: Still look, I've got a bike lane outside my house.

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Speaker 2: I've got a bike lane right there. They still come

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Speaker 2: down the footpath. That's not a solution.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And one reason for that is at the moment,

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Speaker 3: Are actually not allowed to use that cycle lane.

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Speaker 5: So it's a it's a common sense change that the

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Speaker 5: government has recently announced to finally, after years.

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Speaker 6: Allow these I guess you can be honest with me

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Speaker 6: if you don't have them, because there aren't There aren't

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Speaker 6: cycle ways everywhere, and we can't ask these guys to

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Speaker 2: So how do we actually make footpaths safer when you

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Speaker 5: I think the statistics that have been announced today in

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Speaker 3: And we're really proud of the work we do to educate.

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Speaker 2: And Okay, I take care. That's you don't have an answer.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, you don't have to. Jackson, thank you, Jackson

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Speaker 2: Love Flamingo Scooter's co founder. So we've been talking that.

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Speaker 2: The reason I wanted to answer out of Jackson, which

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Speaker 2: one that's going to get hurt because my car is

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Speaker 2: not going to get her. I don't really care whatever,

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Speaker 2: Like you made the decision. But it's a different equation,

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Speaker 2: isn't it when you just step out onto the footpath

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Speaker 2: and whooh, there goes a cycle a little scooter really fast.

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Speaker 2: So I love the scooters and I think they're part

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Speaker 2: of our world now and we have to But I

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Speaker 2: just can't figure out how do we get these things

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Speaker 2: to be safe on them, because the solution, obviously is

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Speaker 2: that you say to them, look, if you're on a

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Speaker 2: you can go no faster than ten k's an hour

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Speaker 2: if there are people, which is a fine thing to say,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, these are kids, right. The majority of

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Speaker 2: people riding scooters nowadays, like twe twenty five whatever. They

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Speaker 2: don't think. They just go whoo yeah fun. So you

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Speaker 2: can't really and you can't have policemen standing the gang

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Speaker 2: to fasked nay, So practically, what is the solution? And

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there is one? And this is

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Speaker 2: what bothers me, And clearly there is a one, because

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Speaker 2: Jackson couldn't give us one anyway. Just hope that these

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Speaker 2: cans just go a bit slower sometimes. Anyway, I say,

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Speaker 2: who texts coming in? And that will come back to

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Speaker 2: that in a minute. Sixteen past four.

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Speaker 2: Heather Easy fix for the e scooters? Make them illegal

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Speaker 2: on roads or footpaths like the UK. They aren't a necessity.

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Speaker 2: You can't that people love them. People love them, Heather.

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Speaker 2: We were doing just fine before the scooters, weren't we.

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Speaker 2: People were getting a bit of exercise walking as well.

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Speaker 2: I've never been knocked unconscious on the path by someone

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Speaker 2: Pine sports talk Hoosters with me, Hey, Pioney.

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Speaker 4: Heather Oh may mate.

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Speaker 2: I went to bed at halftime. I thought, I can't

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean what happened. Indeed, we had a lot

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Speaker 8: I think he's right about the consistency.

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Speaker 8: Wrong, can't you can't look.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make a case to you that he's right,

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Speaker 4: But those are real life things.

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Speaker 8: Those are real life things.

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Speaker 4: You know? It's rugby?

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't think anybody's pretending it's not happening. After

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Speaker 8: They play in Japan. In fact, I think I saw

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Speaker 8: Look, it's probably going to open up that argument again hither,

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me he's better that, he's not better than that.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think Cameroy Gad coming back will be a

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jason pine Sports talk Hoast by the way,

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Speaker 2: Class right seeing Nolane and she'll sort them out. Four

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Speaker 1: Smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in your car

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Speaker 2: It's coming out twenty seven pass fall list and the

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Speaker 2: government's decided it's going to investigate what's going on at

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Speaker 9: Look if there are regulatory settings being generated by local

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Speaker 2: Are Louise Upstom is going to be with us after

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Speaker 2: five o'clock on that. I'm going to rain you through

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Speaker 2: what when I get a chance, what Eden Park is

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Speaker 2: speed limit the scooters, like cars, are in a shared zone.

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Speaker 2: for that. Jackson from Flamingo was saying that they're limited

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Speaker 2: News is next.

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Speaker 3: Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather d for c Ellen Drive with one New

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Speaker 3: They'd be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Auntie Helen's going to get upset, Well, yeah, this

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Speaker 2: by in ten minutes on politics. The Emmys were on today.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we're going to get you across everything.

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Speaker 2: The most important thing to know, I reckon is the

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Speaker 2: cutest news, which as we mate, who was the little

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Speaker 2: boy in adolescence what's his name? Owen Cooper has won

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Speaker 2: the Emmy for Best Supporting Actor. That makes him the

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Speaker 2: youngest Emmy winner ever because I think he's about fifteen

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Speaker 2: year years old. Rita Aura looked great. She came in

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Speaker 2: it's twenty three away from five.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on News dogs, it'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: Romania says a Russian drone has breached its airspace. It's

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Speaker 12: This They found every enginel of nature territory, every angel

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Speaker 13: It was reckless, it was unacceptable.

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Speaker 12: These are Russian girls and it is extremely sharef what

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Speaker 2: He seemed more impressed by meeting his idol, Jake Gillenholl.

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Speaker 7: Though it was one of the best days of my life.

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Speaker 14: Really.

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Speaker 7: I was talking about him and then he came up

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Speaker 7: It was just mind.

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Speaker 2: And finally a Nigerian chef tried to make the world's

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Speaker 2: largest jolla rice. Now we are not feting a record,

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Speaker 2: about eight months to plant. Apparently it's like a tomato dish.

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Speaker 2: It had four thousand kilos of rice, five hundred cartons

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Speaker 1: Spell international correspondence with ens and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Oliver Peterson sixty our Perth Live presenters with us ALI

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Speaker 2: yet ahead. So the spend on UCAST has gone up.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, twelve billion dollars announced by the Prime Minister Anthony

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Speaker 16: Alberniezi while he was here in Perth yesterday. This is

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Speaker 16: around creating a shipbuilding facility, a defense hub in a

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Speaker 16: suburb called Henderson, which is about an hour south of Perth. Now,

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Speaker 16: this is also where they are planning the maintenance of

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Speaker 16: those submarines once they have been purchased. And he's made

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Speaker 16: that big announcement before he has jetted off to Port Moresby.

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Speaker 16: He's currently, as you and I speak right now, header

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Speaker 16: on his way to Papia, New Guinea to celebrate the

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Speaker 16: fiftieth anniversary of P and g's independence. When that wraps

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Speaker 16: up on Wednesday, he will continue to fly to New York,

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Speaker 16: where he is hoping to obviously convince the US President

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Speaker 16: Donald Trump that UCUST will go ahead. He is refusing

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Speaker 16: to confirm either or not he will get the ear

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Speaker 16: of President Trump while he is in the United States,

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Speaker 16: but that is his plan. So let's hope they can

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Speaker 16: finally have a face to face conversation.

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Speaker 2: Not looking good for the coalition?

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Speaker 8: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Oh awful?

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Speaker 16: Like these are the worst ever primary vote statistics that

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Speaker 16: have been released by Newspoll ever, Like this is absolutely shocking.

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Speaker 16: It's now down to just twenty seven percent the coalition.

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Speaker 16: The labor result is fifty eight percent on that two

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Speaker 16: party question. Susan Lee needs to turn this ship around

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Speaker 16: quick smart. She's going to be delivering her first economic

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Speaker 16: addresses the opposition leader. And why I say that he

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Speaker 16: is quick smart, because these numbers are going to send

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Speaker 16: the Opposition to the irrelevancy bin for the rest of

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Speaker 16: their lives. Like that, that is how crucial this is

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Speaker 16: at the moment. And we know what a week she

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Speaker 16: had having to dump just into price last week. From

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Speaker 16: her front bench. This is just agitating the conservative side

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Speaker 16: of her party. So if she doesn't pull a rabbit

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Speaker 16: out of the hat in his economic speech and promise

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Speaker 16: all Australians a million dollars each, she's cactus. She's cactus

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Speaker 16: as she yes, yeah, but she is like I realize

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Speaker 16: she's probably a benchwarmer at the moment, but you can't

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Speaker 16: drift for this long. I know it's it's you know,

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Speaker 16: still two and a half years till the next federal election.

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Speaker 16: But the opposition stand for nothing, Heather, absolutely nothing. They

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Speaker 16: have no policies on anything. They're just fighting amongst themselves.

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Speaker 16: They are showing themselves to be a complete and utter

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Speaker 16: rabble and that will not be recoverable at all to

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Speaker 16: be in a competitive in a competitive position when they

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Speaker 16: go to the federal election.

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Speaker 2: That's a fair point, Pauline Hanson. So is your thesis

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Speaker 2: that she's becoming Australia's Nigel Farage.

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Speaker 16: And if you look at the polls, she's now just

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Speaker 16: surged one nation is now surged above the Greens, so

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Speaker 16: she's up to thirteen percent. She hasn't got much further

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Speaker 16: to go before she knocks off the coalition. Now that

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Speaker 16: that if that isn't a warning sign to the National

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Speaker 16: Party in the Liberal Party that they are going to

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Speaker 16: have their pants pulled down by Pauline Hanson and her party.

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Speaker 16: And she's trying to recruit your seat a price to one.

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Speaker 16: I don't think that'll happen. I don't think she will

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Speaker 16: be successful. But there is such growing unrest very quickly

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Speaker 16: in this country. And look at what Farage is doing

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Speaker 16: in the UK. He's aheading the polls. He's been talking

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Speaker 16: about migration over there for god knows how long. We've

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Speaker 16: got the same issues here in Australia at the moment

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Speaker 16: that the Coalition are just happy to ignore. So watch

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Speaker 16: the surge of Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party.

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Speaker 4: I'll be blunt.

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Speaker 16: She's never been able to recruit anybody else into her

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Speaker 16: party who's any good. So it's just Pauline Hanson and

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Speaker 16: that is it. But things are changing in this country rapidly,

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Speaker 16: mark my words.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant. Hey Ollie, it's always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, mate. Oliver Peterson six pr Per Live presenter.

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Speaker 3: Ever do for see Alan Heither.

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Speaker 2: She looked like Wednsday Adams because she is Wednsday Adams,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Phil. I do love when the young people

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Speaker 2: listen and then text. Although I suspect Fellers not a

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Speaker 2: young person's name. I feel like Phila might be around

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Speaker 2: about my age, just but giving me some infoe. So

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that because I do not watch the Adams

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Speaker 2: Family hither. I was driving at the time, but I

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Speaker 2: thought you interview with the East scooter guy was quite

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Speaker 2: rude and not the way someone in business should be treated.

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Speaker 2: I'm really not sure why you got him on if

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Speaker 2: you weren't going to let him talk and talk over him,

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Speaker 2: just my opinion. Can I appreciate that that's a fair

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Speaker 2: point to make. I was I was rude, and I

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Speaker 2: knew I was rude, but I was rude because what

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Speaker 2: happened as I got frustrated, right, I just got what

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Speaker 2: happened is we wanted Jackson from from Lingo Scooters to

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Speaker 2: come on and have a chat to us about scooters.

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Speaker 2: But Jackson obviously thought this was his opportunity to turn

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Speaker 2: up and just give us some lines. Like he'd sat

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Speaker 2: down and he'd he's very good at it.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't.

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Speaker 2: He got his lines out and he was like, these

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Speaker 2: are the lines I'm going to give Heather, but I

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Speaker 2: wasn't in the mood for it today. I just am

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Speaker 2: not in the mood for lines. I want answers. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to do because there's a conundrum, and I thought,

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Speaker 2: but my problem is what happened was Jackson didn't appreciate

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Speaker 2: how much I've thought about this and got frustrated by

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Speaker 2: and I wanted an answer, and Jackson didn't have an answer.

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Speaker 2: He just had the lines. And then I just got

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Speaker 2: rude and I apologized for that. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: I'm under the weather today. I reckon. I'm cruising out

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Speaker 2: about a six and a half to a seven. As

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Speaker 2: you can tell from the the sex work of voice

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Speaker 2: that I've got going on at the minute. I've been

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Speaker 2: out there smoking too many duurries and I haven't. But

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Speaker 2: that's the mood I'm in. So jan Jackson was the

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Speaker 2: first up, so he copped it. Anyway, maybe we've got

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Speaker 2: it out of our system. Sorry Jackson, next time, come

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Speaker 2: and answer some questions. Don't give me your lines anyway. Listen,

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Speaker 2: if you thought that the twenty four to seven visiting

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Speaker 2: policy was a bit nutty, what about when Nardine from

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Speaker 2: the Health New Zealand Nursing Team was on with Kerrie today.

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Speaker 2: That's where it reached epic. That was the absolute apex

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Speaker 2: of nattiness, though it wasn't it. So Nardine is Nardine Gray,

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Speaker 2: and she's the Health New Zealand National Chief Nurse and

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Speaker 2: this was what she tried to sell Kerry as the

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Speaker 2: reason for why they were letting people in twenty four

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Speaker 2: to seven.

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Speaker 17: The Patient and Finance Support Policy that we're putting in place,

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Speaker 17: actually it responds and guides principles that are actually impaled

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Speaker 17: her and our obligations under to the ty or White Tuggy.

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Speaker 17: It's consistent with our tekong A best practice and actually

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Speaker 17: it's part of the code of patients to have support.

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Speaker 2: That's right, it's the trait a. They did it because

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Speaker 2: of the treaty because I don't know, you've probably not

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Speaker 2: read far enough down the treaty. But if you get

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Speaker 2: past the first three articles, what you'll see is Article

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Speaker 2: four actually says hospitals must be available to be visited

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Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. So they were just doing the rights. Well,

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Speaker 2: come off at Nardine, whatever geez I mean? If Jackson

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Speaker 2: thought he copped it from me at four o'clock, imagine

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Speaker 2: if I had to deal with Nardine earlier today, geez,

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Speaker 2: I would have been on fire. They would have had

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Speaker 2: to put me in a cold bath just to calm

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Speaker 2: me down. What a stupid thing to say, accord.

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Speaker 1: To to politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 2: Certain very sober senior political correspondence with us, Hey Barry,

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Heather. So the Eden Park thing is probably

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Speaker 2: a predetermined outcome, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: Well, it's a foregone conclusion essentially because the new regulations

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Speaker 15: under the IRMA, which is what they've now introduced to

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Speaker 15: speed up the process. Essentially it removes or modifies precision

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Speaker 15: provisions in the RMA which negatively impact economic growth and

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Speaker 15: development or employment. Now that means that if you open

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Speaker 15: up Eden Park to everything, concerts, I mean they're having

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Speaker 15: a big motor show there very shortly, monster tracks there shortly,

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Speaker 15: Yeah to park. But that really is what the government

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Speaker 15: wants to see here if you listen to the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 15: The result of that investigation it will be now carried

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Speaker 15: out by Chris Bishop, is a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 9: We formally launched what very formal language and investigation that

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Speaker 9: the report is generated. There is a consultation, conversation obviously

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Speaker 9: with allland Council in this case and residents in the public.

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Speaker 9: But ultimately it gives us powers to say, if this

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Speaker 9: is an event that's in the regional it's going to

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Speaker 9: advance regional economic growth and opportunity, it's going to advance

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Speaker 9: national economic growth and opportunity. Those are things that we've

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Speaker 9: got to say yes to.

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Speaker 3: As I keep saying, yeah, well.

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Speaker 4: That's all in the act.

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Speaker 15: And just in case you're left in any doubt about

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Speaker 15: that here about Eden Park being open up, have listened

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Speaker 15: to the Tourism Minister Louise Upston.

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Speaker 11: One of the big frustrations that I've heard from Eden

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Speaker 11: Park is not just about concerts, but about festivals, about

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Speaker 11: other shows, about kind of unusual expos that they could

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Speaker 11: potentially hold there. If you look at conferences, to have

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Speaker 11: a restriction of two thousand people is ridiculous when we

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Speaker 11: have the capacity to host more. We want to maximize

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Speaker 11: the flexibility that we have at eden Park. So it's

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Speaker 11: for concerts, it's for sporting events, it's for exposed festival shows,

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Speaker 11: all sorts of things to ensure that we're bringing more

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Speaker 11: visitors and more economic activity. To Auckland and across the country.

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Speaker 4: Why have an investigation? Just go ahead?

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Speaker 15: But then I guess you've got to say that the

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Speaker 15: public are having their say. But I'll tell you what

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Speaker 15: if those that live in and around, not in but

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Speaker 15: around Eden Park are unhappy about this, they all would

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Speaker 15: have known none that they were living near a big

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Speaker 15: stadium because it was built in nineteen fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Be fair to them, Be fair to them. They didn't

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Speaker 2: buy it with twelve concerts and monster trucks.

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Speaker 15: Well, you know, you buy next to a stadium, I mean,

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Speaker 15: you know, unless you brought thirty years ago. You know, honestly,

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Speaker 15: I think you can complain there will be more noise.

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Speaker 15: But sorry, it's like buying a house next to a

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Speaker 15: railway station.

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Speaker 4: You know you've got yourself to blame.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what did you make of the priests and various

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Speaker 2: other clergy chaining themselves to the electricals?

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Speaker 18: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Quite incredible.

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Speaker 15: Really, I was always brought up saying or being told,

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Speaker 15: religion and politics don't mix.

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Speaker 4: They certainly don't mix here. But you know you've.

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Speaker 15: Nikola Willis's electorate office in Wellington. They say they're going

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Speaker 15: to occupy it all night. In the chain to the

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Speaker 15: place at the moment. Some have been trespassed in Simeon

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Speaker 15: Brown's office in Auckland, but Wellington they're there for the night.

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Speaker 2: And why haven't they been trespassed in the Wall's office. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure they're outside her office, I see.

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Speaker 4: So I guess it's a bit more difficult.

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Speaker 15: So they're going to be sitting out the night in

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Speaker 15: their clerical collus, no doubt preaching the good word.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, listen, what are the concerns around the citizens arrests.

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Speaker 15: Well, the police have given their view of it, and

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Speaker 15: it's a view that I in fact raised right at

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Speaker 15: the time that people that afford a citizens' arrest, that's retailers,

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Speaker 15: They could put themselves in harm's way. And that was

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Speaker 15: the thing that concerned me. If you give the citizen

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Speaker 15: too much power to withhold somebody, to lock them in

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Speaker 15: a storage room or something like that, you really are

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Speaker 15: buying something of a fight. The police are concerned about that,

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Speaker 15: and I think they've got every reason to be concerned.

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Speaker 15: But nevertheless it's going ahead and there seems to be

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Speaker 15: little they can do about it.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm very cynical about this. I think the

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Speaker 2: cops are only concerned because the minute you start citizens

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Speaker 2: arresting all way over there, here's looking your stuff, they

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Speaker 2: have to come. Well, whereas if old mate was just

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Speaker 2: looking him leaving it, they wouldn't have to come. And

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Speaker 2: they're so thin stretched.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, but the thing is, as the police say that

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Speaker 15: when they go and they know, when they arrest somebody,

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Speaker 15: they've got the backup information and the evidence to make

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Speaker 15: a charge stick. If you're a citizen saying holding somebody,

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Speaker 15: you know, whether the police have to arrive, there's a

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Speaker 15: great difficulty for them. And then I think you know

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Speaker 15: it really is that there are a lot of flaws

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Speaker 15: in this and we've always had citizens arrest, but not to.

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Speaker 2: This extent or not in certain hours vary.

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Speaker 4: Well, not between nine pm and six am.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much, Barris so for seeing your

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Speaker 2: political correspondence eight away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

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Speaker 13: Breakfast Prime Minister crystop ba lacient is whether us, speaking

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Speaker 13: of protests, who decides in this country to close the

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Speaker 13: bridge when people want to walk across it in protest?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, like I said, that's an Zata decision.

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Speaker 13: It is but you know the person in their.

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Speaker 15: Allowed to do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, but that's the decort.

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Speaker 13: You mean, you're the prime minister of this country. How

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Speaker 13: is it that somebody goes, oh, yeah, we'll just close

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Speaker 13: a bridge.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we're in an inconvenience to people.

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Speaker 13: Should there be something done about that? If we can't

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Speaker 13: trust the MCTA and the police to make sensible decisions,

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Speaker 13: should you step in and go here are some rules

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Speaker 13: that you need to adhere to.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we can have a look at it, but there's

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Speaker 9: enough other places that people can protest, and we want

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Speaker 9: people to be able to feel free to do so.

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Speaker 13: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 13: a Vida News Talk zed B four away.

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Speaker 2: From five listen Very Good Peace on the spin off

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Speaker 2: today with the headline Tom Phillips, Clark, Gayford and the

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Speaker 2: Rumors that Won't Go Away. It's a piece by Duncan

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Speaker 2: Grieve and it argues that authorities are in a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a pickle now because they're not coming out

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Speaker 2: and saying that the rumors aren't true when they have

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Speaker 2: done that in the past. And the point that Duncan

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Speaker 2: makes is that you had the Clark Gayford rumor, remember,

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Speaker 2: and then the police issued a statement just took you know,

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Speaker 2: basically took it upon themselves to put out a statement saying, listen,

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Speaker 2: these rumors going around about Clark Gaviord, they're not true.

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Speaker 2: And then the same thing persisted during COVID where we

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Speaker 2: had rumor about the hookers visiting the MiQ and that's

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Speaker 2: why we're having outbreaks, and they came out they said

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Speaker 2: that's not true. And then you had the rumor about

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Speaker 2: the sex workers going up north, and then to bet all,

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Speaker 2: somebody came out and said, oh, that's not true. And

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Speaker 2: so you had all of these rumors, you know, being

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Speaker 2: these these authorities proactively saying the rumors aren't true. So

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Speaker 2: Duncan's point is he says, it's true that our institution

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Speaker 2: or reaction to prior episodes of rumors flying on social

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Speaker 2: media has put authorities in a very awkward position. Here

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Speaker 2: by persistently issuing denials, we have created an expectation that

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Speaker 2: we will be told when something isn't true. If we're

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Speaker 2: not told by implication, we're much more inclined to believe it.

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Speaker 2: I reached out to New Zealand Police on Friday to

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Speaker 2: ask under what circumstances they issue comment rejecting online speculation

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Speaker 2: and for any documentation that existed to frame up such

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Speaker 2: a decision at time of publication. I have received neither

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Speaker 2: acknowledgment nor reply. So see how that goes. I don't

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Speaker 2: think we'll see how that goes. Anyway. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk next to the New Zealand Nurses Organization, that's the

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Speaker 2: union about the twenty four to seven visiting policy, and

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Speaker 2: then after that Louis he's upston about the rules on

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Speaker 2: eden Park News Talks.

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Speaker 18: He'd be.

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Speaker 3: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather duper Clan drive with One New Zealand to

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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else news talks there be.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. Looks like we've got a back down already on

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Speaker 2: the hospital visiting hours. The plan was to allow twenty

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Speaker 2: four to seven visiting hours for a designated family member.

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Speaker 2: This caused outrage and so this afternoon Health New Zealand

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Speaker 2: has released a statement saying that following feedback, they will

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Speaker 2: review the plan. Al Diachin from the New Zealand Nurses

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Speaker 2: Organization is with us. Hey el Hi, do you welcome

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Speaker 2: this review.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I do, you know, like I just wanted to

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Speaker 10: make it clear anyway that ENDED I know, as not

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Speaker 10: opposed to obviously finale patients centered care. And you know

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Speaker 10: there's aspects of the policy that are very positive, positive,

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Speaker 10: but you know there are some major concerns that we

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Speaker 10: did have.

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Speaker 2: What were your concerns?

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Speaker 10: Well, I guess that the main concern is safe staffing.

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Speaker 10: There has been a precedent and there is seems to

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Speaker 10: be a creep when it comes to what's called patient watches,

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Speaker 10: when healthcare assistants who are members of ENDED in OH

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Speaker 10: care for patients on a close observation process. And the

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Speaker 10: due to the chronic short staffing of eight c a's

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Speaker 10: due to you know, successive governments under funding of health,

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Speaker 10: it means that with these patient watches there are times

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Speaker 10: when family members are kind of encouraged to help out.

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Speaker 10: And you know, our concern is that, you know, if

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Speaker 10: the issue is around helping with a patient that's that's

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Speaker 10: needing a patient watch, that that needs ECAs that are

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Speaker 10: trained to be doing that and not expecting the family

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Speaker 10: to do it for free.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what they had planned to do, which

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Speaker 2: is to allow one designated person to be there twenty

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Speaker 2: four seven if they want to. Is that all that

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Speaker 2: different from what they do at the moment.

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Speaker 10: No, it's not. You know, currently there's no you know,

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Speaker 10: super restrictive policy. I don't think, you know, like a

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Speaker 10: lot of places, there's always the opportunity for a family

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Speaker 10: member to stay with the patient and you know, to

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Speaker 10: to support them, and that's welcoming. I mean, we think

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Speaker 10: that's a great thing. But again it's it's the main

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Speaker 10: concern was that you know, with patient watchers, and this

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Speaker 10: is where there's there's a close observation by a healthcare

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Speaker 10: assistant with the patient who might have a delirium or

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Speaker 10: has dementia, and it's it's essentially to keep them safe

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Speaker 10: to a system with toileting and with feeding, and to

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Speaker 10: stop them from interrupting therapies like pulling on catheters or

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Speaker 10: ov lines and and that kind of thing, and preventing fall.

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Speaker 10: So it's really about having trained ehcas available to care

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Speaker 10: for patients that require this service. And so you know,

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Speaker 10: while it's good to have family support, we shouldn't be

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Speaker 10: doing it at at the expense of you know, basically

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Speaker 10: a shortage of HCAs.

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks very much. Appreciate you. I'm Al Dijon, Christian

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Speaker 2: delegate of the n ZnO.

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Speaker 3: Together.

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Speaker 2: So it looks like eden Park could be hosting more

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Speaker 2: events in the future. The government's launching a review into

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Speaker 2: eden Park's consenting rules to see if they fit for purpose.

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Speaker 2: This follows the announcement yesterday of the seventy million dollar

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Speaker 2: boost to your major artists and sporting events to the country.

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Speaker 2: Louise Upston is the Minister for Tourists. Halouise afternoon, Heather, Now,

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Speaker 2: why launch an investigation instead of just changing the rules.

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Speaker 19: Well, this is a process that's available to us now

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Speaker 19: because of the recently passed Resource Management Act. So mister

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Speaker 19: Chris Bishop will lead an investigation to look at the

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Speaker 19: rules around events at eden Park see if they are

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Speaker 19: negatively impacting on economic growth. And that's where it gives

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Speaker 19: us the opportunity to basically investigate the options. They'll be

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Speaker 19: working with the Council, There'll be consultation with the community

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Speaker 19: and then Cabinet will make a decision in the new

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Speaker 19: year as changes are required.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon is the best outcome here? Would

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Speaker 2: it be that eden Park is basically able to host

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Speaker 2: any concerts, any sporting events whenever it wants.

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Speaker 20: No.

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Speaker 19: Look, the intention here is just to make sure that

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Speaker 19: there is more flexibility for Eden Park. We do know

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Speaker 19: that some of the rules that exist at the moment

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Speaker 19: just create real barriers for us being able to attract events.

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Speaker 19: So the government is investing seventy million dollars into events

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Speaker 19: and tourism and we don't want to have additional barriers

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Speaker 19: in the way for New Zealand's largest event stadium.

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Speaker 2: I mean so at the moment the rules are twelve

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Speaker 2: shows per year, twenty five nighttime sporting events per year,

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Speaker 2: only allowed to go until nine thirty except for cricket

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Speaker 2: which can go until ten, and then conferences can't have

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Speaker 2: any more than two thousand people. Why don't just take

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Speaker 2: away all those rules and say to Eden Park, you

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Speaker 2: guys can do whatever you want, make as much money

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Speaker 2: and have as much fun as you can.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think it's important that we do this investigation.

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Speaker 19: There are a range of things that need to be

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Speaker 19: taken into account, but the end result here is that

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Speaker 19: we want more flexibility for Eden Park, so when they're

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Speaker 19: going out to attract bids internationally to then be able

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Speaker 19: to host them at eden Park, which will be fantastic

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Speaker 19: for Auckland and New Zealand. We don't want them to

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Speaker 19: fall at the last hurdle because the international coverage needs.

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Speaker 2: To mean the.

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Speaker 19: Game starts at nine point thirty and at seven thirty

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Speaker 19: at night. That's a real issue for an event that

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Speaker 19: eden Park are considering at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Which one.

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Speaker 19: Well, that would be something for eden Park to talk about.

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Speaker 7: No one will know.

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Speaker 19: Tell us, well, if you think about some of the

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Speaker 19: codes in one of the games that we lost last weekend,

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Speaker 19: something to do with league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyway, if you say, if you say they're

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Speaker 2: ky boys, Louise, no one will love it.

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Speaker 19: They're real problems. They're real problems and what.

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Speaker 2: We want to do totally agree. Listen, thank you so much.

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Speaker 19: I just want to give them. We want to give

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Speaker 19: them flexibility, so the whether they are attracting a fantastic

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Speaker 19: sports event, whether they are hosting an event and an

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Speaker 19: exhibition that is quite unlike anything we've had in New

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Speaker 19: Zealand before, whether it's an add on to a convention

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Speaker 19: that we're hosting at the ends at ICC for three

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Speaker 19: thousand people and they want to do a dinner off

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Speaker 19: site and ven Park makes sense. Listen, we want to

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Speaker 19: be able to just get on and do the stuff.

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Speaker 19: We know we'll have a big, big difference to our economy.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Louise, thanks very much, appreciate it, Louis ups

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Speaker 2: and Tourism ministers. It's the League Prime and I might

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Speaker 2: come back to that if I get a chouce. The

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister's hinted today that he is he may in fact,

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Speaker 2: at some point call an inquiry into the Tom Phillips case.

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Speaker 2: Now he hasn't said what the inquiry would be into.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't said who would run the inquiry. All he

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Speaker 2: has said is it's basically an inquiry into how government

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Speaker 2: agencies have acted. Now, obviously we're all interested in this

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Speaker 2: and want to know more. So when Nikola Willis is

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Speaker 2: with US Finance Minister after six o'clock Wilasco fourteen past five.

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Speaker 2: Looking to grow and protect your nest egg, that is

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Speaker 2: exactly what FMT does. Investing can feel overwhelming with so

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Speaker 2: many options out there, but FMT keeps it simple, no gimmicks,

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Speaker 2: no jargon, just three decades have proven strategies to protect

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Speaker 2: of the All Blacks problem is that they haven't got

887
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Speaker 2: the mongrel of the spring Box. John, We're going to

888
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Speaker 2: come back to the All Blacks and the spring Box

889
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Speaker 2: and all of that disaster. Got to talk about the

890
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: Emes because the Emmys were on today. So Strap and

891
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you the rundown on what you

892
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 2: need to know here. So if you've watched the hospital

893
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: drama The Pit, you'll know it is epic. But boy,

894
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: you don't want to be watching that just before bed,

895
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: do you, because that makes you feel very stressed out. However,

896
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: it won the big award of the night. It won

897
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: Best Drama. The lead actor Noah Wiley, also took home

898
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: the Emmy for the Best Actor in a Drama.

899
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Speaker 1: To anybody who's going on shift tonight or coming on

900
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: shift tonight, thank you for being in that job.

901
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: This is real now. The other big winner of the

902
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: night was Netflix series Adolescence. The star Owen Cooper became

903
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: the youngest male actor to ever win an Emmy at

904
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: age fifteen. He even got a hug from the presenter

905
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney.

906
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 7: Honestly, when I started these drama classes a couple of years,

907
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Speaker 7: buckets and expects to be even in the United States.

908
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: Never mind, eh, Now he's fifteen. She's hot. He's going

909
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: to remember that forever. He will remember that forever. Seth

910
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: Rogan won the awards for acting, directing, and writing tonight

911
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: for his Apple Plus show The Studio, and Kristin Miliotti

912
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: won her first Emmy for her role in the Penguin,

913
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: and she was really excited.

914
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

915
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 21: I love you and I love acting so much.

916
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert won a standing ovation, as all he won

917
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: after the Late Show was canceled a couple of months ago.

918
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: He sees the opportunity of being in a room full

919
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: of industry execs.

920
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 4: But while I have your attention, is anyone hiring?

921
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: And of course it wouldn't be a Hollywood Award show

922
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: without a bit of the old politics. Javier Bardem wore

923
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: a Palestinian kefia.

924
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 19: Here I am today denouns and the general side in Gasa.

925
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: We asked for our commercial and diplomatic block late block

926
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Speaker 2: eight and also sancheons on Israel to stop the general side,

927
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: Free Pilostine. Hannah Enbinder Ironminder from the show Hacks said

928
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: this after her win for Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy.

929
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Speaker 6: I just want to say, finally, go birds and free Palistine.

930
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: Thank you now. The host, Nate Bergazzi, was apparently forgettable

931
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: at best. And what really has people talking about the

932
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: Emmys is the snubs. Snubs for Kathy Bates, Colin Farrell

933
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Speaker 2: and pretty much everyone who was on White Lotus, which

934
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: is a bummer, isn't it, because White Lotus was awesome

935
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Speaker 2: and all. And by the way, here's a bit of gossip.

936
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Speaker 2: Apparently the next White Lotus is going to be filmed

937
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Speaker 2: in France. They haven't got a location, they don't know

938
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Speaker 2: where and France, but that is the hot That is

939
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: the hot rumor going around at the moment. Now, if

940
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: you've caught up on the news, there are a group

941
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Speaker 2: of Anglican and Catholic priests and pastors who are protesting

942
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: at minister's offices. So five of them, Anglicans and a

943
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Speaker 2: Catholic are at Nichola Willis's office and they've chained themselves

944
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Speaker 2: to each other. We've got a long chain wrapped around

945
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Speaker 2: their wrists and then secured with padlocks. And one of

946
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: them has secured himself to the door of the office

947
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Speaker 2: with what appears to be a bike lock tied around

948
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Speaker 2: his waist and then linked to the door handle. So

949
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: they're going to be there all night. Simon Brown was

950
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: a little bit better. He got rid of his ones.

951
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: The cops took out two Anglican priests and two Baptist pastors.

952
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to talk to one of them,

953
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: Reverend mel Mackenzie about that she'll be with us after

954
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: half past and then Nikola Willis about having them in

955
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: the office after six o'clock. Obviously, Heather read the spring box.

956
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: No leadership on the paddock, no rallying of his troops. Goodbye, Scott,

957
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: you are the weakest link that's from Mozzy. Let's deal

958
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: with that very situation next five to twenty one.

959
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: Hard questions, strong opinion, Heather dup c Ellen.

960
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand tand the power of satellite

961
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: mobile news dogs.

962
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 3: That'd be all right.

963
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: Huddle's going to be with us later on. It's Trishason

964
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: and Josephganey. Right now, it's twenty five or four past five. Now,

965
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: let's talk about the loss to the box and Mozzy's

966
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: text just then. Are we sure that Scott Barrett should

967
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: be the captain? This is the thing that I've been

968
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: thinking about for the last two weeks watching the games.

969
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: Right It's what struck me when I watched the game

970
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: at Eden Park and the ceremony for Ardie Savia's one

971
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: hundred tests and the fact that the team clearly rallied

972
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Speaker 2: not only to defend the Fortress, which I think was

973
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 2: predominantly what they were rallying for, but also they rallied

974
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Speaker 2: to give Ardie Savia a fitting win. Watching that happen

975
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: and watching the ceremony afterwards, and clearly the love that

976
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: the team have for him, Did you not think it?

977
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: At any point during that I wonder if that man

978
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: should actually be the captain? And then this week I

979
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: saw the press conference with Razor and Scott Barrett sitting

980
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: next to him, and I had the same thought, but

981
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 2: the mirror of it, which was should that man really

982
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: be the captain? It it felt like it just didn't

983
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: feel you know what I mean? It just didn't feel

984
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: the same. And this is nothing against Scott Barrett, who

985
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: clearly comes from a lovely family and seems like a

986
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: fun guy, but I can't understand Rays's commitment to him.

987
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: There should be no question about a captain's selection, right

988
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: There was no question that Richie mccaugh would be the

989
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: one named it at number seven. There was no question

990
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: that Kiaran Reid would be the one named at number eight.

991
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: But is Scott as convincing? Are you sure he's going

992
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: to be the one named in his position? Are you

993
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: sure that his discipline is good enough to warrant being

994
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: the captain or are there too many red cards and

995
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: too many yellow cards week in week out that suggests

996
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: that maybe when he's under pressure he just crumbles a

997
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: little bit. Is he the right leader on field when

998
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: the team starts falling behind, Given the fact that his

999
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: record as a captain has largely been with the formidable Crusaders,

1000
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: has he actually had enough losses and enough knocks in

1001
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: his career to know what to do when your team

1002
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: is on the underside and absolutely on track to lose

1003
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: the game and you need to turn it around, You

1004
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: need to get a win under your belt. Because is

1005
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: that actually what happened? What went wrong on Saturday night

1006
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: when they started losing and you saw it on the field,

1007
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: they just all gave up at a point? Did they

1008
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 2: all give up because their captain had given up? Now

1009
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: there is no argument that. Rather, there is an argument

1010
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: that the coaches should come under scrutiny first before the captain,

1011
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: And maybe that is the correct order of things. And frankly,

1012
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about the assistant coaches to really

1013
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: have an opinion one way or the other. But I

1014
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: think when it comes to the captain. Many of us

1015
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: have already come to the right conclusion and the same

1016
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: conclusion here, which is that they may have the wrong captain.

1017
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: Heather do for see Alan, this is absolutely.

1018
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: The best headline of the day. Zulu king challenges professor

1019
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: to stick fight. So what has happened is that there

1020
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: is I don't know if you know much about what

1021
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: goes on in the politics of South Africa, but there

1022
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: is a Zulu king and he's crossed with the professor,

1023
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: who clearly is not Zulu but is coarser. And it's

1024
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: not clear why he's crossed with the professor. He hasn't

1025
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: explained why he's crossed with the professor. But what happened

1026
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: was that the Zulus had their annual read dance at

1027
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: the new Royal Palace and the king stood up and

1028
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: made a speech and said he was angry with his

1029
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: professor and he wanted a stick fight. And the professor

1030
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: said in response that he thinks that this is a

1031
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: joke from the king, but just in case, he's lodged

1032
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: a formal complaint with the police, which does not at

1033
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: all feel like he thinks it's a joke. Anyway, it's

1034
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: possible that why the King is cross is because the

1035
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: professor has said that he has basically criticized him for

1036
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: building a new palace. He said he shouldn't have moved

1037
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: into this new palace because he'd just spent one hundred

1038
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: and fifty two million rand, which is as big as

1039
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: it sounds, one hundred and fifty two million rand on

1040
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: renovating the old palace, so maybe he should have stayed there. Anyway.

1041
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: The sixty four four year old professor has declined the

1042
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: invitation to do stick fighting because he hasn't done any

1043
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: stick fighting since he was a teenager, and he thinks

1044
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: that the Zulu king's going to win Lord. Isn't that

1045
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 2: one of those things where you didn't know anything about

1046
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: anything about that until you read that headline and goes

1047
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: and you go click, I must know more about this.

1048
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 2: Interesting times, all right, let's talk to the priest. Next

1049
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: News Talk ZB.

1050
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

1051
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage

1052
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: like no one else news talks.

1053
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: There'd be.

1054
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 20: Have here.

1055
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: There wasn't Ardie Savia on the field on Saturday. All

1056
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: very well going at Barrett, but there were plenty of

1057
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: leaders on that field that failed to react, Tony, that's

1058
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: a fair point that you make as well. Huddle standing

1059
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: by to have a chat to us right now, twenty

1060
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: five away from six now. Today, Cabinet apparently decided the

1061
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: government's position on recognizing your state of Palestine. Meanwhile, a

1062
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 2: number of priests and pastors protested by sitting in Minister's

1063
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 2: electorate officers. Reverend mel mackenzie is the vicarates and Anne's

1064
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: Anglican parish in Nikola Willis's electorate, and she's currently chained

1065
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 2: apparently to Nichola's electorate office. Mel are you there?

1066
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 18: I am hello? Thank you here?

1067
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 22: Then?

1068
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 18: Yeah, thank you?

1069
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: Are you still chained?

1070
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 18: I am yeah, I'm chained with some colleagues of mine,

1071
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 18: fellow Anglican press, and we've had a Catholic press from

1072
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 18: the electorate with us today as well.

1073
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: Is the Catholic priest still there?

1074
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 18: He had to attend a funeral by about four o'clock,

1075
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 18: so we've released him.

1076
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, So what are you Are you chained

1077
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: to the door? Is that what's going on?

1078
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 15: Uh?

1079
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 18: We are we chained to the door. For us, We're

1080
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 18: really focused on like one thing in particular, which is

1081
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 18: trying to seek an urgent timeline from the government for

1082
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 18: implementing sections and our key there's really our key focus

1083
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 18: for doing this. We would love it off the back

1084
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Speaker 18: of the large scale process we saw on the weekend

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Speaker 18: Tammocky Maikodos and the rolling demonstrations that are happening around

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Speaker 18: New Zealand. We feel like these are all moved and

1087
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 18: noises a mode of New Zealanders who care deeply about this.

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00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 18: So we're really deeply speaking action now from the government

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00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 18: to make a commitment that lines up with you know

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00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 18: what the values people are holding and wanting to see

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00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 18: uh see sanctions placed by the New Zealand government on Israel.

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Speaker 2: Why did you decide that you needed to change yourself

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Speaker 2: to an electorate office.

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Speaker 18: Well, it's actually out of frustration really well with the

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00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 18: international community have been calling, making many many calls, lots

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00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 18: of words, uh and now we just feel like sanctions

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00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 18: actually are what speaks louder than words when where the

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00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 18: government's been uh dragging the chain on this so to speak,

1099
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 18: which is a bit of a pun. But we want

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Speaker 18: to see them act and just make a commitment to

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00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 18: the time frame that they will introduce sanctions into Parladance.

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00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: How long are you to stay there?

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00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 18: Oh, look, we were prepared to start overnight. We're just

1104
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 18: so focused on the suffering that's happening in Gaza. We're

1105
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 18: praying by sort of doing what Anglican and Catholic priests do,

1106
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 18: which is to pray, pray and fast, and we're fasting

1107
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 18: from liquid and from also from food in solidarity with

1108
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 18: the people of Palestine in particular. And yeah, we recognized

1109
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 18: also violence done, you know, in the hostages being held,

1110
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 18: so so for us, we just devastated by the level

1111
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 18: of violence that's securing and wanting to stand with them. Yeah,

1112
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 18: and what we're doing, so we'll stay overnight. Well yeah,

1113
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 18: and just want to keep putting that to the government.

1114
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 18: Will they hear the mood of New Zealanders and put

1115
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 18: that time friend on?

1116
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: All right, mal thanks very much for your time. Reverend

1117
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: mel mackenzie, who is the vicarates and Anne's Anglican parish.

1118
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty find your

1119
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: one of a kind.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's twenty one away from six in the huddle

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Speaker 2: this evening. Trishurson, Sharston willis pr and Joe SPEERGANI, CEO

1122
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: of Child Fund, Hello you too, Hello, Hello Trish. What

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00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: do you think of the twenty four hour visiting policy

1124
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 2: at the hospitals?

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00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 22: I thought it sounded like a recipe for disaster. Try

1126
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 22: going into a hospital and if you're a patient in

1127
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 22: getting sleep overnight as is, think about what's already happening

1128
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 22: in our eds, the level of aggression that they're dealing with.

1129
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: If you've got people going.

1130
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 22: In and out at all times of the day and night,

1131
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 22: imagine the increased infection risk. I just I didn't see

1132
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 22: the need for this to be made as a blanket statement.

1133
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 22: In my experience of having taken kids to the hospital

1134
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 22: over the last you know, twenty five years, parents are

1135
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 22: always welcome to stay with kids, or there's a chair

1136
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 22: put up so you can sleep beside them, And I

1137
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 22: just felt for stuff in hospitals, this would have felt

1138
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 22: like a just an abseuci mozzle.

1139
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1140
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean, from what I can understand, Josie, it's not

1141
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: even that different to what they were doing already, right,

1142
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: they already have the discretion to allow this. They just

1143
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 2: kind of maybe I guess, made it like publicized it exactly.

1144
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 21: That's been my experience. So I've had like Utrisha, I've

1145
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 21: had kids in hospital where I've stayed overnight, not just

1146
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 21: for one night, but sometimes for over a week. I've

1147
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 21: recently had my mum in hospital. I could have we

1148
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 21: were basically there till two am on first night she

1149
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 21: was in hospital, and you're kind of, you know, given

1150
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 21: a place to lie down. And also I've got extended

1151
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 21: family Finonga who are in the hospital who culturally, you know,

1152
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 21: far Noo stays with someone really sick or if they're

1153
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 21: dying or they're critical, and on the whole that's accommodated

1154
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 21: for right, You've got a far No room where you know,

1155
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 21: family can kind of gather, so you haven't got everybody

1156
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 21: in the same shared ward, and you've always got the

1157
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 21: chance for someone to sleep on the lazy boy next

1158
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 21: to you. So I think they could do more to

1159
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 21: make that easier for families that need to do that.

1160
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 21: But you're absolutely right, Heather, I mean, this was something

1161
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 21: that's already happening. I don't know how they keep mucking

1162
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 21: up the comms on this. It's a bag stalinist. You know,

1163
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 21: It's like you feel like they use language that you

1164
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 21: know they don't talk like humans. So they talk about

1165
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 21: people on their healing journey, and I'm thinking, do you

1166
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 21: mean I'm you know, and I can I not go

1167
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 21: on that journey? Do I have a choice? So they're

1168
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 21: sort of talkless jargon e you know, bubbledygook, and then

1169
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 21: they relate everything to to ta tierty. You're right to

1170
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 21: the treaty, and yes there is a cultural element. Mary

1171
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 21: families and Pacifica families want to be around their their sick.

1172
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 2: No, no, come off with Josie. The communities most likely,

1173
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 2: the community is most likely to need this, a new

1174
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: migrant communities who can't speak English. That's actually who there

1175
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: is that.

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Speaker 21: You don't need to make it a treaty issue. It's

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Speaker 21: just a human issue, and there are cultural issues and

1178
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 21: people want to you know, whether you're Indian or Mary,

1179
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 21: they might want to be with their family. So I think,

1180
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 21: as you say, it's already happening anyway, and somehow they've

1181
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 21: managed to make this communications mess.

1182
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 22: I think the key message here is that care needs company,

1183
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 22: but not a party at two am.

1184
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 2: No totally, Hey, how did they buse this up so badly?

1185
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 22: I think it's just completely over egging the pudding and

1186
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 22: it's when inclusivity and you know, combaya just goes completely

1187
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 22: off the rails and becomes utterly impractical.

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00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: And what I'd like to know if there is a

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Speaker 2: point at and an inflection point at which you have

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Speaker 2: so many comm staff that they actually start working against themselves,

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00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: like maximum best is thirty and then after that it's

1192
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: actually it starts going negatively.

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00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 22: Well probably I think it's when words get in the

1194
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 22: way of actually, what is it we're trying to solve here?

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00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 22: And to me, this red light there wasn't a clear

1196
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 22: problem definition yep, exactly.

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00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 21: And what it is is they often government departments they

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00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 21: think that coms are there to solve substantive problems. So

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Speaker 21: they put it on the comms team to come up

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00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 21: with some spin and gobbedygooky language and you know, talk

1201
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 21: about scaffolding of learning your in education and healing journeys

1202
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 21: and you're in health and so they just looking to

1203
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 21: comms to smother it with jargon to try and get

1204
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 21: out of a substantive problem that really didn't exist. People

1205
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 21: are staying twenty four hours if they.

1206
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: Need to totally. Now, what do you think, Trisha, am

1207
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: I being unfair? Maybe saying we need to change a captain.

1208
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to kick a man while he's down.

1209
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 22: Well, it's always what happens right with Rugback cracks me

1210
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 22: up because it's always everyone sticks the slipper in on Monday.

1211
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 7: We're all.

1212
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 22: We're all great armchair coaches, aren't we, and not you know,

1213
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 22: unfair or not.

1214
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: But tell me that hasn't occurred. Do you haven't you

1215
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 2: thought it should be Ardie?

1216
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 22: It's always the coach and the captain.

1217
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: I do.

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00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 22: I am a big fan of Artie and I think

1219
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 22: you're right, there's a lot of love for him. But

1220
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 22: maybe it's similar to in politics where there may be

1221
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 22: politicians who we think are fantastic as ministers and everyone

1222
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 22: thinks they're awesome, but they're not made to be the

1223
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 22: prime minister. Might be similar with the all blacks. That's

1224
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 22: my very crue Layman assessment.

1225
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: Josie.

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00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 21: Yeah, I was just thinking if Piney doesn't know who

1227
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 21: to blame for the terrible disasters.

1228
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: Who knows who to blame because he is a lovely

1229
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: man and he doesn't want to blame anyone.

1230
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 21: He doesn't want to blame anyone. But I do feel

1231
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 21: that the country is grieving and that they can be

1232
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 21: spared mean, Trish and our analysis of the game. But

1233
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 21: having said that, I'm just going to give you my

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 21: analysis that yes, I absolutely think that Ardie Savier should

1235
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 21: be captain. I traveled with him on a plane recently.

1236
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 21: He's just the most charming, lovely person in real life

1237
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 21: as well as on and on the and on the field.

1238
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 21: He's amazing and he has that lovely combination that Richie

1239
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 21: McCall had of leadership and also toughness and takes no prisoners.

1240
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 21: But one thing my husband did say, and he does

1241
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 21: know what he's talking about, unlike me, he said he

1242
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 21: was very surprised that the forwards coach turned up to

1243
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 21: work today.

1244
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's all astray. Oh okay, that interesting.

1245
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 18: Thank you.

1246
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break, come back to you

1247
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: and just to take order to.

1248
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, the global

1249
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: leader in luxury real estate.

1250
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: Write you're back with a huddle Trisha and Josie. Josie,

1251
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: what do you think about this inquiry into Eden Park? Why?

1252
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: What what I'm trying to understand is why do you

1253
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: launch an investigation instead of just changing the rules that

1254
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: you clearly know you want to change.

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00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 21: Also, is this really a post cabinet announcement. I mean

1256
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 21: it feels to me like they're scrambling on a Monday

1257
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 21: to find something to announce that makes us feel like.

1258
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: Not for the first time, not for the first time,

1259
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: not for the first time.

1260
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 21: And it just seems to me if you're announcing, you know,

1261
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 21: we hope that Taylor Swift arrives on a honeymoon, and

1262
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 21: we hope we get more concerts. And I heard Louis

1263
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 21: up and say something like, we look, we look forward

1264
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 21: to more unusual expos at Eden Park if we if

1265
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 21: we change these rules, And I'm thinking, is that what

1266
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 21: does that mean? For a start, I don't know fossils

1267
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 21: from Madagascar or something. I know what an unusual expo is.

1268
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 21: But it's also just you know, this is this is

1269
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 21: why people have lost confidence at the moment. They feel like,

1270
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 21: you know, this is not an economic growth plan. You know,

1271
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 21: Singapore didn't come out and announce more concerts when they

1272
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 21: decided they've become you know, the finance and farmer capital

1273
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 21: of the South Pacific. Taiwan didn't announce more concerts when

1274
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 21: they and didn't, by accident, become the center of the

1275
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 21: world for creating chips and making chips. So it just

1276
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 21: I think it just feels like people are kind of going,

1277
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 21: if this is the best you've got on a Monday

1278
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 21: after cabinet, it's not good enough.

1279
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: I would agree.

1280
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 22: I don't buy that you have to announce an investigation

1281
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 22: into this. The issues around the unitary Plan, I'm sure

1282
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 22: are very well known if you want to dig down

1283
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,479
Speaker 22: into them. Also, we are now eighteen months into this term.

1284
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 22: Now we've got to wait for an investigation. I think

1285
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 22: to Josie's point about the focus, it does seem like

1286
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 22: small if you're talking about kick starting the economy, And

1287
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 22: if you were really talking about kickstarting the economy, you

1288
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 22: would go back to things like the waterfront stadium for Auckland, So,

1289
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 22: you know. So, so I think that there's there is

1290
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 22: the difference, And I also think you've got to be

1291
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 22: careful about not following the rule.

1292
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: Do it, be it, say it.

1293
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 22: So we're getting a lot of headlines on things, but

1294
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 22: you know, it's.

1295
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: A long way down the track to get some runs

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Speaker 2: on the board. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. All right, now,

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Speaker 2: jose the e scooters, what do we do about them?

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Speaker 21: Well, it's not that big a problem. You look at

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Speaker 21: the numbers. So what about thirteen hundred accidents in five years,

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Speaker 21: the report said, And we have about ten thousand rides

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Speaker 21: a day around Auckland. This is just an Auckland. This

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Speaker 21: is just the rentals, not people with their own scooters.

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Speaker 21: So if you do the maths on that that it

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Speaker 21: means that if you've you could basically would fall off

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Speaker 21: your bike once every thirty five years if you rode ef.

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Speaker 5: It's not that scooter.

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Speaker 21: It is not a big problem. And I actually I

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Speaker 21: think I have got a solution to this, and I

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Speaker 21: don't know why we make it so goddamn complicated. Forget

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Speaker 21: the whole cycle pathway's stuff, which just irritates all of us.

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Speaker 21: What we should be doing is just expanding the footpaths

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Speaker 21: and putting and making them double footpaths, which they do

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Speaker 21: in other parts of the world. So the pedestrians walk

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Speaker 21: on the inside and the bikes, you know, bikes and

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Speaker 21: scooters go on the outside. Put them all on the footpath.

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Speaker 21: Because I'm blowed. If I'm ever going to ride a

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Speaker 21: bike or scooter on a road in New Zealand, you'll

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Speaker 21: end up dead.

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Speaker 22: You you will have a literal riot on your hands

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Speaker 22: in Auckland if there is one more road cone with

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Speaker 22: one more pathway slash bi cycle way extension, that is

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Speaker 22: absolutely not going to happen. And slightly off off topic

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Speaker 22: on this, but just on my own little private rent,

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Speaker 22: our road has been shut down four times this year

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Speaker 22: and completely road coned. The last time was on Saturday,

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Speaker 22: which was for some very useful work from victors. I'm

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Speaker 22: not having a go at them, but what has happened

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Speaker 22: out the back of that is there is now a

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Speaker 22: pile of road cones, just orphaned road cones that have

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Speaker 22: been stacked up outside our house with no view on

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Speaker 22: who's going to come and collect them or whatever. So

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Speaker 22: my thought on that is I'm going to set them

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Speaker 22: out in a sort of a debate style format so

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Speaker 22: any local body candidates can come and use them as

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Speaker 22: seats for a debate. And I think that would be

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Speaker 22: a very useful way to get to get those orphan

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Speaker 22: road cones used.

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Speaker 2: I love how you've just turned into a chat about

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Speaker 2: scooters into your personal road cone problem. Well I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: but somebody every collect.

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Speaker 22: Them every time I drive home. I think those road

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Speaker 22: cones again, where's Brownie when you need them.

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Speaker 2: I know, right, there's there's.

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Speaker 21: An economic growth plan. I mean, we've got so many

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Speaker 21: road cones. Apparently they cost about forty dollars each to buy,

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Speaker 21: and so why don't we just export road cones instead

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Speaker 21: of invite people for concerts.

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Speaker 22: That's it's I've got about one thousand bucks sitting outside

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Speaker 22: of the house.

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Speaker 2: So anyone who wants to come, he sus next Monday's announcement.

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Speaker 2: They've got it. Thank you, guys, appreciate it. Trecious and

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Speaker 2: Joseph beganni a hud of this evening. Seven away from.

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Speaker 1: Six, it's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show

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Speaker 1: podcast on my Art Radio powered by news Talk ZEBBI.

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Speaker 2: The services sector has shrunk again. Shane Soley will get

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Speaker 2: us across that, winnings with us shortly, and Nikola Willis

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Speaker 2: is going to be with us after six. Looks like

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Speaker 2: we're getting tougher on the deportations already. I remember how

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Speaker 2: Nicola or not Nicola Erica Stanford the other day about

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Speaker 2: I think this time last week or something like that,

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Speaker 2: was announcing that she wanted to be able to deport

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Speaker 2: people who had been here as residents any period like,

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Speaker 2: I think up to twenty years or something like that. Well,

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Speaker 2: already that we're getting some well I wanted to say

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Speaker 2: positive traction, but I think we're just getting the news

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Speaker 2: on this. Actually it looks like the basically what I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to say, It looks like the signal has been

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Speaker 2: sent that the guys that the judges have to get

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Speaker 2: tougher on the deportations because of this particular case. Chapbourn

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Speaker 2: in India spent his whole adult life here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Came here eighteen to study, went on to get a job,

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Speaker 2: have a family, had a son. He's being deported after

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Speaker 2: being convicted of indecent assaults. So that's because he was

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Speaker 2: granted residency in May twenty seventeen, and because the offense

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Speaker 2: happened within five years of getting the residency status, he

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Speaker 2: is liable for deportation. Happened December twenty twenty. He and

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Speaker 2: a woman had been drinking smoking weed. He indecently assaulted her.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't going to stop. She said, if you don't stop,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to call somebody. Blah blah blah. So he stopped.

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Speaker 2: The argument in his favor was that deporting him when

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Speaker 2: he has a son here who is a New Zealand citizen,

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Speaker 2: would be incredibly hard on him and his son. But

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Speaker 2: the judge was not going to be swayed by this

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Speaker 2: at all and said the child has the love and

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Speaker 2: the care of his mother and her relatives and he

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Speaker 2: would come to accept them as the immediate family unit.

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Speaker 2: And so he's being deported because residence in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: is a privilege and not a right. He's allowed to visit,

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Speaker 2: but that is the extent of it, and isn't that

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Speaker 2: kind of welcome. I'm happy to see that you do

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Speaker 2: some bad stuff here. How'd you go, Heather? I just

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Speaker 2: had a scooter go flying past my house. They were

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Speaker 2: going faster than the cars, doing fifty k's an hour.

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Speaker 2: That's from Dennis Heather. Totally a wrong idea to carve

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Speaker 2: up the pavement. Mission Bay has that and its carnage.

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Speaker 2: Pedestrians walk everywhere. Thank you. David Nikola willis next Arnie.

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Speaker 3: Keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 1: The business hour with Heather due for sel and Maz

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Speaker 1: for insurance investments and the Chiwi Saber.

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Speaker 3: You're in good hands. News talks'd be even.

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Speaker 2: In coming up in the next hour. I may have

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Speaker 2: underestimated how much we care about New Zealand peaches being

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Speaker 2: in what He's cans. We're going to get to that.

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Speaker 2: Shane Soley on disappointing local and Chinese economic data, one

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Speaker 2: uses or one New Zealand Brothers, Jason Parris on the

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Speaker 2: apparently world first outage information and Gavin Gray will be

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Speaker 2: with us out of the UK's coming up eight pass

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Speaker 2: six with us now as Nichola willis the Finance Minister

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Speaker 2: Evening Nikola.

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Speaker 20: Good Evening, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Do you have an opinion on whether Wati's cans should

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Speaker 2: have New Zealand peaches in them?

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Speaker 20: I haven't followed this story. I think it's really a

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Speaker 20: matter for washes and as long as they're upfront and

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Speaker 20: transparent with their consumers about it, then it's their business

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Speaker 20: and a fewer people buy them if they're not key

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Speaker 20: we then surely they'll take that into account.

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Speaker 2: Like do you go to the supermarket and pick up

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Speaker 2: the can, turn around, go no, that's not from New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: or buy something else?

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Speaker 20: Well, I have my husband doing most of the supermarket

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Speaker 20: shopping for our house. Is the honest answer to that question.

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Speaker 20: We don't buy that many peaches. What I worry about

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Speaker 20: is whether they've got extra sugar, because I don't want

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Speaker 20: our kids juicing up on that before school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a very big problem speaking of which actually,

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Speaker 2: because then you're sending them to school hyperactive. For the

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Speaker 2: teachers who are on strike, Have you got a year twelvel,

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Speaker 2: year thirteen home today?

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Speaker 20: Well? I have a year eleven who will So you're

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Speaker 20: tomorrow home tomorrow. Again, that's disruptive to my husband's life,

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Speaker 20: our main caregiver, and we'll have to rearrange his life accordingly.

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Speaker 20: But it's look, it's all of the families who are disrupted,

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Speaker 20: some of home. It's really difficult to reorganize their lives

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Speaker 20: around that. They're expecting their kids to be at school.

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Speaker 20: And I've just got one observation, which is we want

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Speaker 20: to bargain in good faith. You do that at the

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Speaker 20: bargaining table. You can't do that while you're striking. And

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Speaker 20: I noticed that teachers never seem to strike in the

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Speaker 20: school holidays.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that a surprise. So what she happens to do,

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Speaker 2: is it going to take time off work or is

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Speaker 2: he going to work from home and chuck the boy

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Speaker 2: on the device.

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Speaker 20: He'll work from home and he'll have to manage the

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Speaker 20: device use because that will be a strange magnet to

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Speaker 20: which my son will be drawn undoubtedly.

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Speaker 2: Now, what is this Phillips inquiry that the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: was hinting at this morning.

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Speaker 20: Well, there are naturally a lot of questions around how

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Speaker 20: the situation was handled over the past four years, and

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Speaker 20: a range of government agencies involved, not just for police

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Speaker 20: but obviously oring a Tamadiki and other agencies, and so

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Speaker 20: the government is taking advice around what an inquiry would

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Speaker 20: look like to have that whole of gouvern month perspective.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Will this inquiry also look into whether the police

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Speaker 2: did the right things?

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Speaker 20: Well, that will be an aspect of it, I'm sure,

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Speaker 20: because it's about the way that different agencies have interacted

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Speaker 20: and engaged and the ultimate decisions that were made.

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Speaker 2: Will one of the questions be whether the police should

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Speaker 2: have gone in earlier.

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Speaker 20: Well, I don't want to get ahead of the terms

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Speaker 20: of reference because those haven't been set yet, but those

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Speaker 20: are the sorts of questions that people are asking and

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Speaker 20: I'm sure that the police are fully expecting to address

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Speaker 20: those questions anyway. They have their own inquiries underway, but

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Speaker 20: you would expect that a whole of government inquiry would

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Speaker 20: consider that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll just take the place of the IPCA inquiry,

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Speaker 2: which surely will have to happen anyway.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well, that's really important, But of course that's about

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Speaker 20: the ultimate shootout rather than the wider set of events.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the IPCA looks at the shootout, this other

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Speaker 2: inquiry will look at the whole operation, whether the right

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Speaker 2: things were done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Look, and I understand that police, in the normal course

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Speaker 20: of event, review and operation of this magnitude and national significance,

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Speaker 20: So that would happen anyway. But what the Prime Minister

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Speaker 20: is looking at is the broader inquiry on the way

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Speaker 20: all the government agencies involved have come together on this

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Speaker 20: matter and the consequences of their decision making.

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Speaker 2: Now, look on the eden Park thing, why don't you guys,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we all understand that Eden Park is playing

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Speaker 2: with its arms tied behind its back, right, So why

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Speaker 2: not instead of launching an investigation and dragging it out

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Speaker 2: for the next six months or whatever, why don't you

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Speaker 2: guys change the rules? We know what the rules are.

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Speaker 20: Well, none of this would be possible if we hadn't

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Speaker 20: passed law this year which for the first time ever

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Speaker 20: allows us to get in and modify provisions in local plans.

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Speaker 20: This is all part of the Resource Management Act, so

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Speaker 20: we now have that power. What the law requires Minister

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Speaker 20: Bishop to do is do a proper investigation to demonstrate

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Speaker 20: that this is something that's negatively impacting economic growth, and

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Speaker 20: then he recommends changes the following the process in.

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Speaker 2: The more that's right, that's right. What is the game

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Speaker 2: with you know, what's the goal with the Christians tied

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Speaker 2: up in your office?

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Speaker 20: Well, obviously I support the right to protest, but I

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Speaker 20: would point out that by then going ahead in the

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Speaker 20: way that they are chaining themselves to the office and

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Speaker 20: the like, they're just getting in the way of good

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Speaker 20: people who want to come to that electorate office to

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Speaker 20: have help with constituent matters. My electorate staff member has

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Speaker 20: had to work from home. It means he can't meet

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Speaker 20: face to face with people, which is really disruptive and

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Speaker 20: I don't think positive for their course.

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Speaker 2: Do do you have to have people there sort of

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Speaker 2: guarding the place overnight?

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Speaker 20: I understand that security have been engaged by Parliamentary Services

1513
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 20: who take operational responsibility for these matters and security have

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01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 20: been engaging with the police. I also understand the protest

1515
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 20: has turned up with muffins this morning, so it was

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Speaker 20: news to me that they're in fact going to be fasting.

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought, oh, so they weren't like muffins, like

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Speaker 2: a coreha. It was like muffins for themselves.

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Speaker 20: Well, I think it was as a core ha. It

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01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 20: was a rooster try and get in the door so

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 20: that they could do as they attempted in other offices.

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01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 20: And I have a very onto it electorate agent. Oh

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01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 20: no could see what was brewing.

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Speaker 2: It's like a fishers and loaves type situation, isn't it?

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01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 2: Except and now we're changed. Okay, now, what have you heard?

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01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: What's going on here with takuza Ferris? Because no one

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01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: can get hold of the Maori Party to understand why

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01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: they can't get on top of them. What are you hearing?

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01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 20: Well, I just think they're in a complete mess. I

1530
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 20: mean they'll be seeing the writing on the wall, which

1531
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 20: is that when you have members making openly racist statements

1532
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 20: and disenfranchising huge numbers of New Zealanders, you don't look

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01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 20: like a party that could ever be in government. And

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01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 20: presumably someone into party, Marty is smart enough to work

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01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 20: out that if you can't ever be in government, then

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 20: you can't ever really get anything done. So I imagine

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01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 20: they're having an internal war about that. I know that

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 20: their whipped last week was pretty upset to have her

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 20: whip promoved. I don't know what relationship that has with

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 20: all of this. But look, just more entics from the party, MARTI.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, Now listen, can you explain to me how

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01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: you guys racked up a forty four thousand dollar bill

1543
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: for the Pavlova on the Mountain date?

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 7: Well?

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01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 20: Look, talking to the Prime Minister's office, I understand that

1546
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 20: this was about promoting New Zealand deal.

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01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: I know what it was about. But listen, listen, let

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01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: me just let me come clean with you. Okay. So

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01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: I had a look at it, and I see that

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01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: you can get a two group private Queenstown charter on

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01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: the Chopper for thirteen and a half thousand dollars. Now

1552
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: I want two choppers because that's what you people had.

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01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: So now it's twenty seven thousand dollars. So where's the

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,799
Speaker 2: other seventeen thousand dollars come from?

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 20: Look, I haven't been involved in looking at the costings

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01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 20: of that. I'm sure those are questions which the Prime

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01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 20: Minister's office would happily answer. Basically, this was about showcasing

1558
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 20: the best of New Zealand scene predaturism. Provision was there.

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01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 2: Wasn't a wasn't that wasn't there was that much media

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01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 2: coverage of me? That's the problem.

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Speaker 20: Well, an interesting point that's relevant to the overall price

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01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 20: was that provision was made to have journalists come along,

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01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 20: but ultimately the Australian Prime Minister wasn't comfortable with them

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01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 20: being in the chopper, so it ended up being just

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01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 20: for social media, but it did receive wider reporting.

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Speaker 2: Elbow under the bus.

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01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 20: No, well, I don't think I'm throwing them under the

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01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 20: bus at all. I think that's a perfectly reasonable position

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01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 20: for any leader to take. Is when they want media

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01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 20: accompanying them and when they don't. Doesn't like totally that's

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01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 20: totally their.

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Speaker 2: Program, Nichola, So are you telling me if I go

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01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: to the our Prime Minister's office and say, Nicholas said,

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: you have to tell me how you racked up this bill,

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: they will be honest with me.

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01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 20: Well, I think that they'll be able to give you

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01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:42,839
Speaker 20: some sort of a breakdown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, I shall do this. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Nichola Willis, Finance Ministang good luck for tomorrow

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01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: with the boy at Hope. Yeah, let's talk about the

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01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: peaches next sixteen past six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio powered by Newstalk ZEBBI.

1584
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: Whether it's the macro microbe.

1585
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 1: Or just plain economics, it's all on the Business Hour

1586
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: with Heather Duplicy, Ellen Canned Mass for Insurance Investments and

1587
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: Kweye Safer.

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01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 3: You're in good heads.

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01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: News talks be okay on the peaches. One News led

1590
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: with the peaches. This was their opening story for the bulletin.

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01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: With all the things that are going on today, the

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01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: Eden Park announcement, all the stuff that's going on. They

1593
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: opened up with the peacher's story. The peaches story is

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01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 2: that Watties appears to be giving up on Hawk's Bay

1595
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: peaches and they've gone and enoughve told her a whole

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01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: bunch of orchardists or whatever that they're not going to

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: be taking their peaches anymore, and they get it. The

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01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: suggestion is they're going to be putting cheaper overseas peaches.

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Speaker 2: In their cans. I don't know where these peaches are

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Speaker 2: going to come from, but they're not going to come

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Speaker 2: from Hawks Bay anyway. I I've we talked about this

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01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: earlier today, myself and the German as to whether this

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01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: was a thing or not. We decided it wasn't a thing.

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01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: The German cares about it. She says that she will

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01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: go to the supermarket, She'll take a can off, She'll

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01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: look at the back the cans, see if it's New

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01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: Zealand mad and then you'll buy it or not. I

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01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 2: didn't know people do this. I do not do this thing.

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01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 2: It does not matter to me whether I am so.

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: This is how tight fisted I am. I am so

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01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 2: not interested in where the fruit comes from. It's just

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01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 2: the price point is my motivator when I'm at the supermarket. Anyway.

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01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: Apparently I have underestimated how much people care about where

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01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 2: their fruit comes from. Because one news has decided that

1615
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: in the biggest news bulletin on television that the country watches,

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01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 2: it's the number one story for today that the peaches

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: and the wat Is cans are not coming from Hawks Bay.

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01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: You can tell me if they bang on putting that

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01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 2: as the first story or not nineteen ninety two, right now,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty past six. Now, Shane solely harbor asset management

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01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 2: is with me right now? Hey, Shane, I hear that. Okay,

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01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 2: So the latest economic data suggests we're still going a

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: bit backwards, are we?

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01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: Look the Beings Businesses on Performance of Services next, it

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01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 23: fell to forty seven point five for the month of August,

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01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 23: down from forty eight point nine last month in July.

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01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 23: Now I'm remembering that your below fifty. That means the

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01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 23: activity slide. This August number is actually the eighteenth month

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01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 23: in a row of contraction. So the unicator suggesting the

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01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 23: economy is still contracting in the third quarter recovery struggling

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01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 23: to gain momentum, So maybe not enough features are.

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01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 2: Maybe not enough? And what about what about the Chinese

1634
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 2: economic data?

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Speaker 3: What's that saying?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, unfortunately another miss, you know, it wasn't wasn't massive miss,

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01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 23: But it's again a trend where we're seeing the Chinese

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01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 23: economy not really reacting to some of the similars that's

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01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 23: spent announce Studio in the years industrual output for August

1640
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 23: it was up five point two percent. That was that's

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01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 23: year on year that was lower than expectation of five

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01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 23: point six. The fixed investment rose half a percent year

1643
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,799
Speaker 23: on year estimate was one and a half and August

1644
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 23: resale sales were up three point four percent. Estimate was

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 23: three point acts So miss miss mass not surprising. If

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01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 23: we did see some more similars from Chinese authorities. They

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01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 23: have got this GDP target for the full year of

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Speaker 23: five percent, so their economic growth targets five percent, and

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01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 23: they'll probably try and get there with some stimulus.

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01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 2: Now, what are you expecting from the feed Reserve later

1651
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: this week?

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Speaker 23: So yeah, it's a big week for central banks. We've

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Speaker 23: got four central banks talking this week. The big one,

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01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 23: of course, is the US Federal Reserve. That precision is

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01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 23: out on Thursday morning is zell in time. The current

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01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 23: rate is four point twenty five to four point five

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Speaker 23: in the USA A range. The market's very confident it's

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01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 23: going to be a zero point twenty five cut to

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01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 23: our four to four point two five range. In fact,

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Speaker 23: ninety three percent probability either of that being priced and

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01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 23: the other seven percent the balance that's actually for our

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01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 23: half a fifty basis point cut. And mister Trump's come

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01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 23: out this morning is Zell in time, and so he's

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01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 23: expecting a big cut. I guess he is in the

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Speaker 23: seven percent. And when we look at what's happening with

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Speaker 23: the economy, there is some slowing down and confidence, so

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 23: perhaps there is a bit of similars needed. And certainly

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01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 23: the other thing we've got to think about is capital

1669
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 23: markets have run quite hard in the expectation of right cut,

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01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 23: so there's always the quantum of the move and the

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01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 23: commentary will influence things. Then backing there, we're also got

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Speaker 23: the Bank of Canada, Bank of England and Bank of

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01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 23: Japan out later this weeek Bank of Canada probably cut

1674
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 23: as well, given their economy is being hit by tariffs.

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01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, a whole bunch of company news here in

1676
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 2: New Zealand. What caught your eye?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, look, it was actually lots of little nuggets today.

1678
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 23: Specifica in this is the producer by the cancer detection tests.

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01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 23: They have a little bit of a win one of

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01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 23: the US regulators saying, hey, well, look we're going to

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01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 23: consider covering insurance for some of their tests. Stop price

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01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 23: went up twenty four percent. Long way to go there

1683
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 23: in that process, but it's a good step spark some

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01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 23: more changes in the leadership team to get to their

1685
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 23: FY thirty ambitions and watching didn't really help sparks. She

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01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 23: placed down over one point three percent. Aukland Airport a

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 23: bit of an improvement there in traffic. The who are

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01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 23: two percent increase in international passengers in August for the

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Speaker 23: month and they're actually seeing some bigger aircraft coming in here.

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01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 23: There's a five percent increase in the aircraft that she

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01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 23: price up one percent. Maybe you got a little bit

1692
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 23: of a boost from the New Zealand government seventy million

1693
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 23: events boost, tourism boosts and baby two and then finally

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01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 23: we had literacy g know black cons The August operating

1695
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 23: stats were but better than expected higher GFDN or higher

1696
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 23: hydro lake production so chip I still down one percent

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01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 23: on the day, so but better in general across the board.

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Speaker 2: Good Shane, thanks so much for runningus through at Shane

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Speaker 2: Solly Harbor Asset Management six twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather dup cl and Mass for

1702
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Speaker 1: insurance investments and Chewy Safer.

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Speaker 3: You're in good hands news talks that'd be Heather.

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01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: What is Peaches will still have Hawks Bay Peaches we're

1705
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: just buying less from our growers as demand in our market,

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01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: which is Australia and New Zealand, has dropped. So if

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Speaker 2: Keywis want what is to make more cans with hawkspay peaches,

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01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 2: then they should buy them over their competition that doesn't

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Speaker 2: have hawkspay peaches. Thank you for that. And the text

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01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 2: followed up and said I shouldn't have told you that,

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01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: but you've already sent it hither and this is something

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01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 2: I didn't know. What about this? Okay, Heather Love your

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Speaker 2: program Don't ever Buy Garlic has had its pubic hair

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Speaker 2: trimmed off, because that means it's important, likely from countries

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01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 2: that don't have our soil standards. Thank you Bill from

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Speaker 2: Blenham for ruining what we think of the garlic from

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Speaker 2: here forever from here. I'm mean, let's be honest about it.

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Speaker 2: Never gonna look at it the same. AWE six twenty

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Speaker 2: six got some showbiz news for you now any crown.

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01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: So it's not just Kendrick, Lamar and Drake who've got

1721
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: beef with each other. It looks like it's also the

1722
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 2: country singers. So it all started when Zach Bryan, who's

1723
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: the fella singing this song refused to sign autographs from

1724
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 2: a teenage fan. Another country singer, Gavin Adcock, then went

1725
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: on a podcast and he was asked about it, and

1726
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:30,919
Speaker 2: he said.

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Speaker 5: This, I think Zach Bron puts on a big mask

1728
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 5: in his day to day life and sometimes he can't

1729
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 5: help but rip it off and show his true colors.

1730
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 7: I don't know if Zach Brown's really that great of

1731
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 7: a person.

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01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's all quit because both men were then on

1733
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: the same lineup for a country festival and Zach did

1734
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 2: not like what Gavin had said, so he confronted Gavin.

1735
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 2: But the trouble is there was a barbed wire fence

1736
01:21:54,920 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: between them. So guess what Zach did? Shock that fence

1737
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: so you want to fight like a man, and he

1738
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: shook the fence and then hey, scaled it. He scaled

1739
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 2: it to try to fight the other guy. He was

1740
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: held back by security while Brian walked away, so there

1741
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 2: was no actual altercation. But suddenly we're interested needs to

1742
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 2: keep an eye out on this beef shaking that fence. Actually,

1743
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: do we need to talk about the dogs? Shaking fence

1744
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 2: has made me think of dogs. That's how my mind's

1745
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: working today. Got an email from somebody who's very angry

1746
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 2: and sent an email to my boss about the dogs,

1747
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: which came to me. The email came to me because

1748
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: he sent it to Heather, not my boss. But anyway,

1749
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 2: we'll deal with that maybe later on. Jason Paris.

1750
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: Next, if it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1751
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Ellen and Mas for

1752
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: Insurance Investments and Kuie Safer and you're in good hands

1753
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: News Dogs head.

1754
01:22:54,320 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 2: Bee Gavin Gray is going to be with us in

1755
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 2: around about ten minutes out of the UK. I've got

1756
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 2: to update you on Prince Harry if you haven't seen that.

1757
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 2: And also let's talk about the dogs right now. It's

1758
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: twenty four away from seven. Now we have a new

1759
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 2: service that will show mobile network outages in real time.

1760
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: One New Zealand and Spark of joined forces to create

1761
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 2: the thing. It's believed to be a world first and

1762
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 2: one New Zealand's chief executive, Jason Paris, is with us. Now, Hey, Jason,

1763
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: get a Heather right, who uses this thing? Do I

1764
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 2: use this thing?

1765
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 20: No?

1766
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 14: You don't, but our emergency services do so fire an

1767
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 14: emergency service. New Zealand Police, Saint John and Wellington free

1768
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 14: ambulance initially, and then we want others to come onto

1769
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 14: the service as well. And basic what it means is

1770
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 14: we can prioritize them when there's congestion on our networks.

1771
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 14: We can also make sure that they can roam off

1772
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 14: each of our networks because no Spark has a different

1773
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 14: coverage footprint to us. And then today we announce the

1774
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 14: third service, which basically means we can give emergency services

1775
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 14: advanced warning on any planned network outages or if we

1776
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 14: have a natural disaster, many network outages, so we can

1777
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 14: optimize our network to save lives.

1778
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: So how would it work if you're planning to, I

1779
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: don't know, take down a tower and fix it or

1780
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 2: something and it's going to create an outage, how would

1781
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 2: that help an emergency service to know that in advance.

1782
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 14: Well, it's just making sure that if they are in

1783
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 14: a remote area that doesn't have coverage from both of us,

1784
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 14: that they might need an alternative way of communicating for

1785
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 14: an hour between say one until in the morning, because

1786
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 14: that's the most of the time when we do kind

1787
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 14: of planned outages. It's not during the middle of the day,

1788
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 14: but people get sick or get themselves in danger in

1789
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 14: a whole lot of bunch of different ways, and it's

1790
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 14: just making sure that especially those emergency services in the

1791
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 14: most remote and regional areas know where there's a planned outage,

1792
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 14: and so is the.

1793
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: Same true of if there's a major weather event and

1794
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: not call, any kind of natural disaster knocks out coverage,

1795
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 2: then they know where they need to to take satellite

1796
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: phones or something into.

1797
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly.

1798
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 14: Of course, you know, we've got satellite technology available now,

1799
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,799
Speaker 14: which gives another level of resilience. But with the networks

1800
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 14: on the grounds get taken out, it means that we

1801
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 14: can restore them where emergency services tell us much much faster,

1802
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 14: So Spark and ourselves can kind of share the load

1803
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 14: and stand up our networks in different places at different times.

1804
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 14: When that network comes back on. Of course, lots of

1805
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 14: people want to connect to our cell towers all at

1806
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 14: the same time. We'll prioritize emergency services first to make

1807
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 14: sure that they've got access, and then you know, we

1808
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 14: make sure that we can reciprocally roam roam off each

1809
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 14: other's networks, again prioritizing the emergency services over other traffic. Again,

1810
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 14: it's about saving lives.

1811
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: Easy thing to do.

1812
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 14: Quite technically difficult. It's a world first for a reason,

1813
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 14: I think technically difficult one. And then too, you know

1814
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 14: corporates here that we don't normally like sharing our toys

1815
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 14: in the sandpit and so Spark and One New Zealand

1816
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 14: coming together to share infrastructure it's a really good thing

1817
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 14: for New Zealand. You know, modern digital infrastructure resilience means

1818
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 14: that people are safer, and in Spark and One New

1819
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 14: Zealand working together is a pretty good thing for the country.

1820
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 2: Now, Jason, I've got to say, man, yeah, I know

1821
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 2: you've been you've been censored on this, but some of

1822
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: those refs calls throughout the past season have been dodgy

1823
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 2: as all. How haven't they?

1824
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, they have.

1825
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 14: I've been pretty frustrated. You know, even on Saturday Night,

1826
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 14: I thought there was a clear knock on and a

1827
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 14: clear forward pass. But Edda, if you talk to the team,

1828
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 14: we still haven't been playing to our full potential for

1829
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 14: eighty minutes. So I've reluctantly got to admit that we

1830
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 14: should be taking the ref's decisions, or the bunker's decision.

1831
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 14: More importantly, it's really hard for the rest on the field,

1832
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 14: and it's going so quickly out of out of their

1833
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 14: hands and by winning by ten or twenty instead of

1834
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 14: winning by you know, six points or losing by six points.

1835
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 14: So twenty twenty six Premiership, here we come. Whence we

1836
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 14: are meet our full potential.

1837
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 2: I love the enthusia, I love the belief. Thank you,

1838
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 2: Jason Jason Parris, Chief executive of One New Zealand.

1839
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 3: Heather Duper see Ellen Prince.

1840
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: Harry has revealed that his focus for the next year

1841
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: is going to be on his dad and he's going

1842
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: to spend more time in the UK and he's going

1843
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: to spend more time in the UK with his kids.

1844
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Now this has happened because when he went to see

1845
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: because obviously he went to see his dad for the

1846
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 2: first time last week, hadn't seen him in war was

1847
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 2: it nineteen months or something like that. And then yeah,

1848
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 2: afterwards said the focus really has to be on my dad.

1849
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: I think we can all probably join two dots here,

1850
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 2: can't we, which is that Charles came and he saw

1851
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: Charles immediately after Charles had cancer treatment and he's still

1852
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: having weekly cancer treatment and that's, you know, I would

1853
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: imagine not a great sign. And then Harry says he

1854
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 2: needs to see more of his dad. I think, I

1855
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: think you know, brace yourself is all I would be

1856
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 2: saying there now here. This is them that landed in

1857
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 2: my own box. Over the weekend attention, Heather's boss read

1858
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: the execution of a beloved pet without considering a balanced

1859
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 2: assessment of the situation. This needs to be read out

1860
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 2: on Hea the show to provide a balanced view, because

1861
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 2: she did not provide a balance view and she only

1862
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: reads out emails and texts supporting her view, which is

1863
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: not true because I'm reading this one out case in point. Anyway, Heather,

1864
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: we listened to your comments about the recent dog attack

1865
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: attack and I have to say, you've got this one

1866
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 2: badly wrong. This, by the way, can I just give

1867
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 2: you if you don't know what I'm talking about? This

1868
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 2: is the dog attack that we were talking about on Friday.

1869
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 2: Happened on the Carpety Coast or poor it to her

1870
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 2: maybe port it Tor and a kid and his family

1871
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: walked out from their house with their dog, walked from

1872
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: the house to the car, and in that little period

1873
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: another dog, which is one of those nasty breeds, you know,

1874
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 2: like a fighting breed, can't remember now, came running up

1875
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: the road tore the kids calf off basically, and there

1876
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 2: were just like bits of flesh lying around the ground,

1877
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: so it was horrific. And then the owner, instead of

1878
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: the dog being put down immediately, the appealed it all

1879
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: the way to the High Court in order to try

1880
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: to keep this dog alive. The dog has now been

1881
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: as basically said, the judges said, take the dog out

1882
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: of the back, get rid of the dog, and we'll

1883
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 2: see what happens. Because there is obviously you can't take

1884
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: it to the Court of Appeal if you want to. Anyway,

1885
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 2: your position here there is that any dog that lunges

1886
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 2: at a child should be put down immediately. It is extreme,

1887
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: one sided and unfair. Children, especially very young ones, don't

1888
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 2: always understand boundaries with animals. They pull tails, clumb on dogs,

1889
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: tug ears. It's not malice, it's innocent. But for a dog,

1890
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: an animal with instincts, that's a trigger. That's to add

1891
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: some context, the dog in question, and I'm assuming that

1892
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 2: we're talking about the actual dog that I was talking

1893
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 2: to you about, the calf pulling dog. The dog in

1894
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 2: question wasn't just a pet. It was a working dog,

1895
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 2: was a lifeline for an owner struggling with serious mental

1896
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: health challenges. A dog that has provided comfort, stability, and

1897
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 2: support for years and now because of an incident in

1898
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: circumstances none of us fully know a judge has ordered

1899
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: its destruction. Hither you speak as a parent, and I

1900
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 2: get it, But as someone who doesn't own a dog,

1901
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 2: you're looking at it. It's only through one lens. We

1902
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 2: ask for compassion and new it's not knee jerk calls

1903
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 2: for execution. That's from Fran. All of this a fair points.

1904
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: Can I just answer this from Fran though, I don't

1905
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: think that when a dog lunges at it, at an animal,

1906
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 2: at a child, sorry, that we should immediately put it down.

1907
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 2: In fact, I don't even think that you put down

1908
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 2: a dog that nips, right, because we all know the difference.

1909
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 2: We've all been around around dogs in our lives. A

1910
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 2: dog that nips to give you a warning, that's not

1911
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 2: a bite, you know, that's the dog telling you to

1912
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 2: basically bugger off, and you should listen to it. What

1913
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm talking about? And I even think that maybe we

1914
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: should have some latitude when it comes to on the

1915
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: dog's property. Do you know what I mean? So, if

1916
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 2: you're an intruder coming onto the property. You're trying to

1917
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,799
Speaker 2: break into the house, dog bites you, well to ties

1918
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 2: or even if you I don't know, you freak the

1919
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 2: dog out by coming in through the gate really fast.

1920
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 2: I have some scope for latitude there. But if that

1921
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: dog is in a public place and attacks a person,

1922
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be a child, just a person and

1923
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: bites like we're talking about fangs in muscle. I'm sorry,

1924
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 2: there is no dispute. That dog's got to be put

1925
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 2: down because that dog is now a threat. So if

1926
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 2: there is a friend, if you have a problem with

1927
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: that argument, and I don't care if it's a working

1928
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 2: dog or not, because the thing is the dog is

1929
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 2: now a threat to humans, and what do we protect

1930
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:11,839
Speaker 2: first humans?

1931
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Friend, if you have a problem with that, which is

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Speaker 2: that I'm saying in public spaces, if a dog bites

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Speaker 2: and latches on, then we put them down. If you're

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Speaker 2: a problem with that, please follow up with another email,

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Speaker 2: happy to hear it. Sixteen away from seven, approaching.

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Speaker 1: The numbers and getting the results. It's hither dule c

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Speaker 1: Ellen with the business hour and mas for insurance investments

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Speaker 1: and Quie Saber, you're in good hands news dogsa'd be whither.

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Speaker 2: A judge determined the dog should be put down. It

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Speaker 2: was a High Court judge even, which is a fair

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Speaker 2: point to make. Thirteen away from seven and Gavin Gray

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Speaker 2: are UK correspondents with US. Hello, Gavin, Hi there Hanah,

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Speaker 2: So the suspect in the case of madel mccahn doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to be interviewed by UK police.

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Speaker 3: Why no?

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Speaker 12: And what's more, they can't make him now. Basically he

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Speaker 12: hasn't given any reason. It's been reported he has just

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Speaker 12: rejected the request for an interview now. Christian Bruckner is

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Speaker 12: his name. He's forty nine years old. We've been reporting

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Speaker 12: about him before, haven't we. He's never been charged in

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Speaker 12: the Madeline McCann case. He denies any involvement in the

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Speaker 12: little girl. She went missing back in two thousand and

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Speaker 12: seven on the Algarve in Portugal as a little three

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Speaker 12: year old girl. She's never ever been seen since, and

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Speaker 12: despite extensive searches, her body has never been found. Now

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Speaker 12: the police are treating this in Germany as a murder case.

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Speaker 12: UK police treating it is a missing person's case. But

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Speaker 12: the Christian Bruckner is currently serving time in prison for

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Speaker 12: the rape of an American tourist a seventy two year

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Speaker 12: old American tourist. He is forty nine. He's about to

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Speaker 12: be released from prison we believe Wednesday of this week,

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Speaker 12: and the theories he will simply then go to another

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Speaker 12: country where there is no extradition treaty and he will

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Speaker 12: never then have any realistic prospect to being question about

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Speaker 12: Madeline McCann. So I think this is a big setback

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Speaker 12: for the McCann parents. But as I said, he has

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Speaker 12: never ever been charged and has said he had no

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Speaker 12: involvement in her disappearance.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, who were police hunting after this rally at

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Speaker 2: the weekend.

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Speaker 12: Well, so a really amazing rally which I think the

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Speaker 12: numbers of which way out strip what both the police

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Speaker 12: and Auger thought, but also the organizers too. More than

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Speaker 12: one hundred and fifty thousand people went on a reich

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Speaker 12: A march through London organized by the far right activist

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Speaker 12: Tommy Robinson, well known here for some of his views

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Speaker 12: anti migrant and during that rally there was a separate

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Speaker 12: rally of the opposing view of roughly five thousand people.

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Speaker 12: The police were trying to keep the two groups separate.

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Speaker 12: Then when they got close to one another right in

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Speaker 12: the heart of London. That's when it got violent. Sadly,

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Speaker 12: there were twenty four arrests, twenty six police injured, and

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Speaker 12: those police had four of them quite serious injuries. They

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Speaker 12: were broken teeth of prolapsed disc head injury and some

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Speaker 12: really pretty unpleasant scenes. And plenty of the other protesters

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Speaker 12: who weren't arrested at the site have been caught on

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Speaker 12: body cameras worn by the police or other cameras, and

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Speaker 12: so they're trying to identify them, and then they're going

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Speaker 12: to try and catch them, of course and bring them

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Speaker 12: to justice.

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Speaker 2: Listen, how worried we about what's going on with the

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Speaker 2: Russian drones.

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Speaker 12: In short, very and we should all be very worried

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Speaker 12: about this. So last week we reported that Poland had

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Speaker 12: downed three or maybe four Russian drones that had come

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Speaker 12: over the border. They were supposed to course be operating

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Speaker 12: in Ukraine and attacking Ukraine, part of that war that

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Speaker 12: Russia is conducting there, but they were not just on

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Speaker 12: the edge of the border. They were a long way

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Speaker 12: into Poland. Russia said, oh no, no, not nothing to

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Speaker 12: do with us, or it's a mistake, but plenty of

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Speaker 12: people think no, they were so far into Poland. This

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Speaker 12: was this was testing NATO and seeing what the response

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Speaker 12: would be. Now we learn they've also done the same

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Speaker 12: in Romania. So the eastern flank of NATO very much

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Speaker 12: in need of enhancement, more security. About four countries in

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Speaker 12: the European Union now pledging that enhancement to bolster security

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Speaker 12: in defense. But I'm afraid chilling words from Vladimir Zelenski

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Speaker 12: who said this is an obvious attempt by Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 12: to extend the war in Ukraine outside the boundaries of Ukraine.

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Speaker 12: In other words, saying to Europe, this is coming to

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Speaker 12: your doorstep soon, I fear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely something to be scared of. Hey, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, Gevin appreciated. Gavin Gray, UK correspondent. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's a funny little update on the nitball that I

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Speaker 2: think I should get you across. I will shortly nine

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the hitherto per Se Alan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalg Zibby.

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Speaker 2: Before I get to the nit Ball, just a quick

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Speaker 2: update on the situation with Gas because I'm slightly obsessed

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Speaker 2: with it. I can't remember a time where the country

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Speaker 2: I can't remember a time in my living memory where

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Speaker 2: the country has run out of a natural resource, and

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Speaker 2: this will be it anyway. Apparently, the Resources Minister Shane

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Speaker 2: Jones has written a briefing paper for Winston Peters that's

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Speaker 2: made quite a stark warning, and he said, if the

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Speaker 2: country doesn't find new gas or displace its use in

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Speaker 2: electricity generation as and get a lot of a lot

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Speaker 2: of commercial users, I suppose to switch to electricity, there

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Speaker 2: would be quote no gas available for industrial, commercial or

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Speaker 2: domestic use from twenty twenty nine, which is only four

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Speaker 2: years away now. As has been pointed out, he is

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Speaker 2: subject to hyperbole and domestic users will probably be among

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Speaker 2: amongst the last to be kicked off because we use

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Speaker 2: so little and it's profitable selling it to us. But

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Speaker 2: still it's kind of slightly alarming, isn't it. So start

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Speaker 2: start start picturing what you're going to replace that gas

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Speaker 2: heater with in your house. That's my That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: doing now. The netble. So it turns out, according to

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Speaker 2: the Herald, that when Netball New Zealand management sat down

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Speaker 2: Dame Knowles and the team to tell her all the

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Speaker 2: things that were wrong with her coaching style, they could

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Speaker 2: not actually tell her specific concerns that Silver Ferns players

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Speaker 2: had about her leadership. And remember this is what led

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Speaker 2: to her being stood down. They could not tell her

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Speaker 2: the specific concerns that the players had about her leadership

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Speaker 2: because some athletes struggle to fully articulate their emotions. So

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Speaker 2: that makes me feel a lot better about the Situa,

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Speaker 2: not I'm being sarcastic. I mean, how bad does this sound?

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Speaker 2: So the players, the players are going, I'm thackl, I'm

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Speaker 2: just emotionally unsafe here, I'm psychologically unsafe, but can't say

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Speaker 2: why they're psychologically unsafe. And then they launched a review

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Speaker 2: based on that, which, by the way, they launched the

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Speaker 2: review and don't tell Torua that they've launched the review

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Speaker 2: until the review is finished. So talk about being psychologically unsafe.

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Speaker 2: It's her he should be complaining. But when they sit

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Speaker 2: her down the carnic, she tell her what she's doing wrong.

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Speaker 2: I mean that, come off, this is this is going

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Speaker 2: to The more that we find out about this, the

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Speaker 2: less this is a no Lean problem and more a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand netball problem, isn't it. Anyway? We'll keep you

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Speaker 2: posting on that because I'm fascinated by this. What have

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Speaker 2: you got for us, Libby?

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Speaker 24: I've got some Bruce Springsteen today, because he is the

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Speaker 24: latest person to have a movie made about him, which

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Speaker 24: we were gifted the trailer for at today's Emmys. It's

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Speaker 24: called Deliver Me from Nowhere. And Jeremy Alan White is

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Speaker 24: playing Springsteen.

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Speaker 2: It's him. It's the guy from The Bear, isn't it

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Speaker 2: guy from Shameless?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: And this is the track Atlantic City that plays along

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Speaker 24: in the trailer, So I thought, why not go out

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Speaker 24: with this?

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Speaker 2: Is this actually Bruce singing? Or is this Jeremy?

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Speaker 24: This is actually Bruce. I'm curious if it will be

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Speaker 24: Jeremy in the movie.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's got to be because because what's his face?

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Speaker 2: Did did Elton John? Didn't he?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: A lot to live up to.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's right, thank you, Libby. Okay, here you go,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see tomorrow. I have a lovely evening.

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