1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: TV and zed's launching an independent review to check its 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: news for balance and bias. It follows Media Minister Paul 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Goldsmith signaling his desire to see trust and media statistics 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: improve for the state broadcasters. Shane carries the Media Insider 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: at the held and with. 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: Me tonight Hi Shane evening Ryan. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: So are they biased? 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: It depends depends on the viewer right. Certainly. The feedback 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: that TV and Z will get, and all media organizations 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: generally will get, is that some people will like your story, 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: some people won't. And that is especially so with political coverage. 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: And I've noticed it just in the last two or 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: three years covering TV and Z quite closely. The number 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: of emails I receive about their political coverage especially is 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: quite telling. 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Are they doing too much editorializing off the back of 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: their coverage? Do you think? 18 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: I think that's a really good point, I think, And 19 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: that's what the independent review will probably look at. A 20 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: guy from the XABC in Australia, guy called Alan Sunderland, 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: and what's happening is generally speaking, the coverage of a 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: particular issue is probably okay. It's seen when the reporter 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: comes in at the end and gives an opinion or 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: analysis that the viewer might take asue with the feedback, 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: we get a lot of has just report the. 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: News, yes, just to say the facts and then buger off. 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: And both sides or as many sides as possible within reason. 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: I mean, with television, you know better than most it's 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: what a two or three minute story, So there's a 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: lot to cram in. 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, shame whether this is an issue that's actually 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: not about today but about the last five years. 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: You know. 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: I think the reporting has changed considerably, the same with 35 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: arn Z, and the stories you see and here today 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: are actually quite different to the ones you might have 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: heard during COVID years. Well yeah, are they being punished 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: for perhaps some behaviors back then. 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 2: I think what we saw in COVID was the making 40 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: within the sausage factory, right in terms of those daily 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: one o'clock press conferences, and the journalists and question lines 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: which were happening for many, many years previous and since, 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: were suddenly in the spotlight themselves, and people took exception 44 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: to some of the questions, the way the press conferences 45 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: were handled by the Prime Minister at the time, and 46 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: there were some other factors as well. That led people 47 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: to think, you know, this was a bit of a 48 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: cozy club. Wrong in a lot of respects, but still 49 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: that's the perception that's emerged and the media has been 50 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: fighting it ever since. 51 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: They'll soon be sharing a building. Do you think arn 52 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: Z might get a bit of this review treatment too well? 53 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: I think aren Z's got its own issues in terms 54 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: of that, and possibly even bigger issues than TV and 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: zaid I think that with the TV and said, I 56 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: mean Paul Godsmith, the Media Minister has asked both of 57 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: them to improve their trust levels. They will both argue 58 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: that they are near the top of most surveys, but 59 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: as public broadcasters, Paul Godsma says, they've got to do 60 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: a lot better. 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: Shane Curry, appreciate you on the show tonight, Shane carry 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Media Insider at the Herald. You can read his column. Well, 63 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: you do multiple columns per week, really, don't you, Shane. 64 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: You're the busiest man in media right now. 65 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: As Shane carried 66 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 67 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the 68 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: podcast on iHeartRadio.