1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Ever do for ze Ellen. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: Okay, it looks like Auckland's run into a major problem 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: with building more houses. We don't have enough water pipes. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: Water Care has finally released a map which shows the 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: areas in Auckland that are facing restrictions on development because 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: of water connections. For example, on the Hibiscus Coast, anyone 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: without resource consent already could have to wait around six 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: years for a new waste water connection. Now Andrew Crosby 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: is from Expects Property Development. 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Hey Andrew, Hi, how are you going ahead? 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: I'm very well. Thank you. Were you surprised when you 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: saw that map? 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: No, because that map has been hidden. 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: With water Care for who knows how long, but probably 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: many months, And it's taken a group of very dedicated 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: professionals who have set up a public advocacy company to 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: sort of help water Care release those maps. So everyone 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: who's bought land around Auckland has got resource consent knows 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: whether they can actually develop their properties or not because 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: of the infrastructure. We knew it was coming, we didn't 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: know exactly the extent of the map, and it's quite 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: surprising and perhaps shocking how much of Auckland literally has 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: no wastewater and water capacity. 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was meaning. So you're not surprised 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: at the existence of the map, but you are surprised 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: at how extensive the kind of limitation is on where 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: you can build. 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: What happened literally only weeks ago, maybe months ago, people 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: in Otara Papatowi started receiving letters developers who have resource 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: consent are entitled to rely on their resource consent. They 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: started receiving letters on their engineering approval applications saying, sorry, guys, 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: there's no wastewater or water capacity in this area, we 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: can't give you engineering approval. And so that just started 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: slowly happening, and so we went quite sure of the extent. 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: And then the map was released, and. 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: You've got places like Beech Haven, you've got the whole 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Hibiscus Coasts, you've got parts of Otara Papatoa, You've got wait, Takerei, 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: You've got East Auckland that the whole of East Auckland 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: has a color over it, basically saying it's not going 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: to be ready to twenty thirty five to twenty forty. So 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean there'll be no development, but basically they're 42 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: saying if you want to do a little development here 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: and add some more affordable houses to the Auckland market. 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, our pipes aren't big enough. 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but still a fair amount of area in the 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: a fair amount of land in the city area that 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: you can develop on. 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll tell that to the mum and dad developers 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: who have actually got resource consent when and spent tens 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars on building concent documentation and engineering applications, 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: only then to be told. 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 3: No, there's no capacity. 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: There's no fore warning, there are no civil engineers who 54 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: knew about this, there was no real transparency. 55 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: Good on water care for releasing the map. Now you 56 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: talking about Andrew. 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: Where if people spent money. Where if people spent money 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: to develop land and now they've been told they can't 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: well in. 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: These areas and Otara Pepetai. 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: But according to the map it looks like there is 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: ability to develop there. 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: Well, there's a big orange chunk in the middle, which, 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: oh I see thousands and thousands of hectares. 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: Maybe not that much, but you know, there's a significance. 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: The map is quite shocking, and there's a lot of 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: people who spent money, they've bought sites based on development 68 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: that more than likely now they'll be told there's no 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: capacity for another ten years. So is you. 70 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it feels to me as if water Care 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: has known but not been completely upfront about this. 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, How long have they known? I don't know, 73 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: but there were unofficial maps released by people on the 74 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: inside and they surfaced a month or three ago, so 75 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: I guess. 76 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: I mean, my theory is that when the. 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Government, the previous government launched the MDRS rule, all of 78 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, council had to throw out a lot of 79 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: their plans. This is an Auklyn because all the unitary 80 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: planned had infrastructure signed, you'd think, and then the new 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: government put all these new rules in without thinking anything 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: about infrastructure, and then the council had to sort of 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: rapidly adapt. And now there's new areas which there's just 84 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: no infrastructure left as far as transmission and pipes and 85 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: all those sorts of things. So it's a bit of 86 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: a it's a bit of a puzzle and it's a 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: big problem, and I'm not sure what the solution is, 88 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: but at least being transparent now and getting that information 89 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: into the hands of everyone, you know, will slowly help 90 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: this so long. 91 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good luck with it, Andrew, Thanks very much 92 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: for talking us through. That's Andrew Crosby Expects property developments. 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to 94 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: News Talk sai'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 95 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio