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Speaker 2: Hello, are you great New Zealanders? Just Tyler here for

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Speaker 2: the Matt and Tyler podcast intro. Matt has had to

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Speaker 2: escape because he is meeting his partners Tracy's dad for

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Speaker 2: the first time, so he wants to make a good impression.

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Speaker 2: We might talk about that on the show tomorrow, but

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Speaker 2: today was a great day. We had two hours of

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Speaker 2: election discussion. The first hour was about the authenticity of

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Speaker 2: politicians on the back of the different styles, with Trump

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Speaker 2: who loves to weave as he says it, and Carmela

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Speaker 2: who's got a very straight down the line style and

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Speaker 2: very scripted. Then we had to chat about celebrity endorsements.

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Speaker 2: Have they harmed hindered Harris's campaign? A lot of people

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Speaker 2: argue they have. What is the worth of celebrity endorsements?

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Speaker 2: Then we chatted about jet Skis. I started off really

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Speaker 2: hating jet Skis. I think I think I started to

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Speaker 2: change my mind towards the end. Maddy loves the old

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Speaker 2: jet Skis motorcycles of the sea motorcycles. Someone takes it

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Speaker 2: and that's a great name for them motorcycles going forward.

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Speaker 2: But that was Thursday afternoon, great show, good discussion. We

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Speaker 2: will do it all again tomorrow. You've seen busy. That's

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Speaker 2: what Maddie sees, isn't it. You've seen busy. You have

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Speaker 2: them atasta keiwe bless, bless, bless alrighty.

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Speaker 3: Then talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four News Talk said, be a very.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you. Welcome into the show. Thursday. America

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Speaker 2: has a new president and his name is Donald J. Trump.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've got a lot of yawns going today

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Speaker 4: because i stat up very very very late watching the coverage.

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Speaker 2: Did you get on the whiskeys as well?

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Speaker 5: I did not get on the whiskys. No, I would

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Speaker 5: never do that. I was on the tequilas.

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Speaker 2: Very goods right onto the show because we are going

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Speaker 2: to be chatting about the US election over the first

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Speaker 2: couple of hours. But after three o'clock we do want

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Speaker 2: to talk about jet skis. Some can soon In the

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Speaker 2: Bay of Plenty, locals want to ban jet skis from

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Speaker 2: one of the local harbors. They say it's unsafe. It's

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Speaker 2: a matter of time before someone gets hurt or killed.

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Speaker 2: The wildlife don't like it, and it's just not great.

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Speaker 2: It's an annoyance.

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Speaker 5: According to you.

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Speaker 4: WHOA, Yeah, I think jit ski is a very very

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Speaker 4: good time. And if you're out on the water, no

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Speaker 4: matter what craft you're on or in any way you're

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Speaker 4: out in the water, you have to behave responsibility. That's

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent. But jet skis are an opportunity for

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Speaker 4: people that may not have millions and millions of dollars

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Speaker 4: to get out there and experience BEWI full watery areas.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm a huge fan of jet ski. I've

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Speaker 4: had a lot of great times on a jet ski.

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Speaker 4: I've had a lot of great times with my kids

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Speaker 4: on jet skis.

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Speaker 6: And I have.

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Speaker 5: Never caused no problem to done.

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Speaker 4: No one done done done, No one done, no, no

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Speaker 4: one does, no no harm.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're a good member of society, matt Eth.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Then if I say to you all good, go

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Speaker 2: hard on your jit ski, your motorbike of the sea,

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Speaker 2: but five hundred meters away from beach police because it's

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to support someone cutting a track at

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Speaker 2: Can I say situation I had in the molbough sounds?

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Speaker 2: Maybe's parents, my partner, They are lucky enough to have

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Speaker 2: a batch there. It is a quiet little bay, but

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Speaker 2: jet ski has come there because it is quiet, and

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Speaker 2: they kind of think they have the bait of themselves.

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Speaker 2: I was on a kayak and again this keeps happening

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Speaker 2: to me. Happened with the motorbikes on the beaches, now

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Speaker 2: We'll just run rings around this kayaker. I mean, absolute knobs.

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Speaker 2: And what am I going to do on a kayak?

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Speaker 2: I can't chase them down on a kayak, can I?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Poor you?

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Speaker 4: Someone in a watery vessel went round you a couple

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Speaker 5: Are you all right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well tuck me over on my kayak.

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Speaker 4: I think we have this conversation over and over again, Tyler.

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Speaker 4: What you're describing as a dickhead problem?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which is which?

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Speaker 2: So what do we do about dickheads. Well, I'm all

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Speaker 2: for banning dickheads. That is what it comes down to, right,

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Speaker 2: that's after three o'clock. After two o'clock we want to

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Speaker 2: have a chat. I mean it is related to the election,

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Speaker 2: but more in relation to what we spend on the

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Speaker 2: military here in New Zealand. And we know Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: President Trump now is very big on allies paying their way.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't like it that there's a lot of NATO members.

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Speaker 2: We're not part of NATO, but there are a lot

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Speaker 2: to come down hard on that. There is some nervousness

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Speaker 2: raises the question about our own military spend and where

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Speaker 2: terms of those strategic partnerships. Has the time finally come

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Speaker 2: that we need to make a decision about how much

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Speaker 4: I believe we spend zero point nine percent of our

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Speaker 5: Which is one of the lowest in the world.

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Speaker 4: And if you're looking at someone like Trump who has

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Speaker 4: that opinion about everyone helping out. And look, we live

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Speaker 4: in an uncertain world. We don't know what's going to

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Speaker 4: happen in the future. You may say, hey, look there's

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Speaker 4: no one threatening our borders right now, but we all

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Speaker 4: not it's not unforseeable. It's not unlikely that some security

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Speaker 5: Allies to help.

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Speaker 4: And if we don't put any money into what the

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Speaker 4: are we in a position where America goes, Nah, you didn't,

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Speaker 5: We're not going to help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quite possibly, that's going to be a good chat

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Speaker 2: after two o'clock. But right now, so I want to.

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Speaker 4: Compare Trump's acceptance speech with Carmala's, with Trump's acceptance speech

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Speaker 5: Here's Kamala.

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Speaker 8: There's an adage and historian once called a law of

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Speaker 8: is only when it is dark enough can you see

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Speaker 9: I know many.

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Speaker 8: People feel like we are entering a dark time, but

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Speaker 8: let us fill the sky with the light of a brilliant,

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Speaker 2: Of stars, the light the light of.

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Speaker 8: Optimism, of faith, of truth and service.

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Speaker 5: Okay, there you go. There's Kamala's concision speech.

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Speaker 2: Now exhibit number one.

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Speaker 4: Exhibit number one now compere in contrast with Trump's acceptance

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Speaker 5: And I'm looking to screen.

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Speaker 10: I'm seeing this crazy thing that's going around and coming down.

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Speaker 10: It looks like, I said, a crash into the gantry.

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Speaker 10: And I said, oh no, And I said, do me,

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Speaker 10: I want to see this. I thought it was a

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Speaker 10: And he was holding But this spaceship came down and

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Speaker 10: I saw those engines firing, and it looked like it

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Speaker 10: and then it wrapped those arms around it and it

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Speaker 10: held it and just like you hold your baby at night,

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Speaker 3: And it was a beautiful thing to see.

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Speaker 10: And I called Elan. I said, Elan, was that you?

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Speaker 3: He said, yes, it was. He said, who else can

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Speaker 10: He line in that scure.

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Speaker 4: So the yeah, comparing contrast. So this is my take

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Speaker 4: But what if you think of Trump? Has he changed

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Speaker 4: the way politicians need to communicate with the public and

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Speaker 4: he said, you've got this era of scripted, slick, high

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Speaker 4: oratory orchestrated, tally prompted politicians. Would you prefer to hear

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Speaker 4: that reveals all about the candidate warts and or what

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Speaker 4: resonates more. Because what Karmela was reading out there, I imagine.

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Speaker 4: was written by a scriptwriter. Yep, beautiful words, reasonably well delivered. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Trump a bunch of crazy words and sayings and love

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Speaker 4: and baby and rocket and maybe he wrung elon, maybe

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Speaker 4: he didn't. Maybe the story was true, maybe it wasn't.

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Speaker 4: But too many people what he says is more authentic.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's definitely authentic.

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Speaker 5: So what do we what do we want from our politicians?

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Speaker 5: What do you prefer? What works for you? One hundred

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Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty and.

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Speaker 2: What do you prefer of those two styles? Well, maybe

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Speaker 2: that that's at the extreme end right, and we getting

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Speaker 2: a few techts at a k coming through saying we

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Speaker 2: selected parts of that speech, of course we did to

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Speaker 2: make the points, but very unique in different styles. But

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Speaker 2: to your point, I think the age of the very

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Speaker 2: polush for very slick scripted speech just doesn't hit the

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: We did select parts of that speech, We selected the

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Speaker 4: end of hers, but her whole speech was like that.

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Speaker 4: Apart from the bit at the start which she said

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Speaker 4: good afternoon five times in a row, the rest of

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Speaker 4: it was straight off the teleprompter. But if you watch

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Speaker 4: Trump's acceptance speech, he seemed to just go on stage

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Speaker 14: It was two in the morning.

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Speaker 16: Throughout the country, the lack of planning post Biden was astonishing.

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Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB very good afternoons. You we're talking about authenticity

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: And people are quite capable of telling lies in scripted

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Speaker 17: I'm good, Thank you. A very interesting topic, and I've

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Speaker 17: add to that is that, you know, I come from India,

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Speaker 17: the biggest democracy in the world, they say, and in

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Speaker 17: that so huge, and the intellectual level of like you know,

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Speaker 17: in the two tier three tiered villagers is different, and

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Speaker 17: so when the politicians go there, they talk very differently

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Speaker 17: compared to what they would talk in the city or

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Speaker 17: to the young people or the youth. So you know,

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Speaker 17: you know what I mean. So it has to be

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Speaker 17: considered as to who's your audience, Like we we tell

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Speaker 17: you know, like I'm teacher too, so you're writing for

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Speaker 17: an audience. So yeah, I think they could have kept

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Speaker 17: that in mind. Maybe that would have made a difference.

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Speaker 17: But Trump is surely yeah, he's he's like, you know,

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Speaker 17: getting his message.

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Speaker 2: Across ridicuare thank you very much. We got the headlines

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Speaker 2: hot on our tail. But we'll pick this back up

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Speaker 2: after that. It is twenty eight minutes to two.

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Speaker 18: News talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 18: no trouble with a blue bubble. Kamala Harris has issued

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Speaker 18: a special message to young people, telling them not to

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Speaker 18: give up hope in her speech conceding Donald Trump's overwhelming

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Speaker 18: presidential victory, She's promised Trump a peaceful transfer of power.

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Speaker 18: Prime Minister Chris Lukson says he's congratulated Trump and looks

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Speaker 18: forward to working with him and advancing both our country's interests.

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Speaker 18: The murder trial of King jun Chau continues, with him

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Speaker 18: now conducting his own defense. His cross examinations have been lengthy,

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Speaker 18: with witnesses expressing confusion over his questions. Demonstrators are descending

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Speaker 18: on the beehive protesting today's introduction of acts controversial Treaty

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Speaker 18: Principles Bill. PSA members have rejected a collective agreement offer

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Speaker 18: for Defense Force staff which didn't lift civilian worker pay,

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Speaker 18: sparking more industrial action. Crowded Kiwii households are getting more

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Speaker 18: common with twenty twenty three cents his data showing conditions

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Speaker 18: were cramped in more than one hundred thousand households all

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Speaker 18: six point two percent. Reserve Bank says Trump presidency will

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Speaker 18: be marginally infleationary. Find out more at end, said Herald Premium.

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Speaker 18: Now back to Matteith and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty four minutes

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Speaker 2: to two we're.

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Speaker 4: Talking about the contrasting styles between Trump and Carmela text

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Speaker 4: here of nine two nine two. Hi, guys, our lives

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Speaker 4: are just so scripted these days, aren't they. There is

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Speaker 4: just so much we aren't allowed to say or should

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Speaker 4: only say. So when someone gives doesn't give a crap

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Speaker 4: about that, it's refreshing and we all love it and

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Speaker 4: miss it takes us back to when you could just

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Speaker 4: be yourself. Sadly not the way things are anymore. Cheers,

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Speaker 4: Mike Mark. Sorry, and this business, says Tyler. I promised

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Speaker 4: to vote for you every Friday in the topical tune

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Speaker 4: if you do this one thing whenever Matt attempts an

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Speaker 4: American accent, just poking with the piece of office equipment,

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Speaker 4: nothing serious, just to compass or staple in the file

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Speaker 4: between the ribs, to stop him doing his American accents.

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Speaker 2: Deal deal, Henry, I'll take it. We'll do that, not

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Speaker 2: because they're easy, but because they're hard.

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Speaker 5: Rights in this Dicky Love a good JFK speech.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, David, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 19: Yes, hello, Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 17: I'm well.

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Speaker 19: Are you well?

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Speaker 2: I hope, yeah, very well, yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 19: You look I willn't to make two points. You had

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Speaker 19: lots of calls I try and be breathed. I wanted

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Speaker 19: to make two points about just weaving, right, which about weaving.

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Speaker 19: But firstly, wouldn't it be great if a politician came

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Speaker 19: out onto the lecter and with no telly prompters and

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Speaker 19: no notes right there, you know, virtually naked as it were,

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Speaker 19: and spoke from the heart and didn't look down a

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Speaker 19: telling prompter or something that wouldn't make me great, would

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Speaker 19: make me better than what we got at the moment,

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Speaker 19: but put me too much score, I would think in

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Speaker 19: the telly prompted days. But look comparing the two styles,

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Speaker 19: angel he first called it stall. Half my points matters

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Speaker 19: that it's called calls it weaving for a good reason,

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Speaker 19: and apart from the fact that he's a very clever orator,

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Speaker 19: the word weaving makes is when you take little strands

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Speaker 19: of cotton, little thread, and you make something out of it, right,

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Speaker 19: you make a code or a blanket. That's weaving. We

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Speaker 19: could have called it wandering, but it's weaving, and it's

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Speaker 19: really clever because and again Angela's point is going to

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Speaker 19: make about the Elon's rocket coming back. That's a very

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Speaker 19: powerful image that puts into people's minds, and he intersperses

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Speaker 19: it very clever. He was, okay, you're for three hours.

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Speaker 19: He and he talks in a hard stuff and he

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Speaker 19: goes off the half an hour weaving. But it's when

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Speaker 19: he weaves sees that his best because he's fun in this.

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Speaker 4: Relate to him, Yeah, David, And as a person that

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Speaker 4: will start talking for a while and then forget what

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about and then at the end remember and

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Speaker 4: desperately trying to bring it back around together to make

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Speaker 4: a point and make it all make sense. I like

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Speaker 4: that Trump's come up with a word for that, the weave.

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Speaker 4: He may have a plan to his weave, but I'm

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Speaker 4: now claiming when I lose my way in any kind

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Speaker 4: of chat, that it's a weave.

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Speaker 2: We love a good weave. Here on the afternoons, David,

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Speaker 2: we lost ye.

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Speaker 19: Yes, yes, no, I was still here. Yes, it's clever.

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Speaker 19: He always comes back to the main point, and that's

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Speaker 19: when you're just not off. And while it's like a

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Speaker 19: bomb going off, he comes straight backwards. We're going to

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Speaker 19: close the border, and Matt is where Matt comes in

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Speaker 19: with his Trump. I just very quickly find you talked

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Speaker 19: about Matt. You did Josky's speech about the moon right,

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Speaker 19: quite a good imitation. I just wanted to put into

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Speaker 19: the mix. You know, it was great. It wasn't as

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Speaker 19: good as your Trump one of the star I just

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Speaker 19: wanted to may I just finally put into the mix.

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Speaker 19: One of the best speeches, talking of Kennedy's was when

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Speaker 19: Bobby Kennedy, before he got shot got Bobby Kennedy made

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Speaker 19: his eulogy at the funeral of Jay's k and I

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Speaker 19: don't know if he remember the words, but uh, and

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Speaker 19: it's a bit of sexism. And he said some men

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Speaker 19: think about doing something and say I can't. He he

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Speaker 19: jove K saw things that had never been and said

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Speaker 19: why not? And that was that was That was some

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Speaker 19: speech and hence the moon manly came that sort of

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Speaker 19: this was strike that off. But look Trump is and

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Speaker 19: again two seconds last week you talked about do you remember, Yeah,

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Speaker 19: all the towns of words that have been spoken. I

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Speaker 19: talked back last night and this morning about why he

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Speaker 19: won and how he won. America is a bold, grassy country. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: Trump is a bold, brassed guy. And what Talmler and

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Speaker 19: a lot of other people don't have he's got a

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Speaker 19: little bit of mongorel.

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Speaker 2: Of them right, absolutely, yep, nicely said David.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And after the break, I'd like to come back

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Speaker 4: to how that famous speech by JFK at Rice University

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Speaker 4: about going to the moon, how it got a little

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Speaker 4: nod to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: All good teas. It is eighteen minutes to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams is taking your calls on Heath

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be very good afternoon to you. It is sixteen

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Speaker 2: minutes to two. Before the break, you've met in this

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Speaker 2: very famous speech.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: The difference between highority or tree scripted politicians and politicians

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Speaker 4: speaking on the stump, off the cuff. And I brought

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Speaker 4: up how JFK and my favorite political speech of all time,

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Speaker 4: the address at Rice University from JFK arguing that we

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Speaker 4: should go to the moon. He said, I won't do

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Speaker 4: the American speech because it's called the American accent, because

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Speaker 4: it's caused a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of a lot of people are on the st Actually

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Speaker 2: it's kind of fifty to fifty. But why some say

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Speaker 2: the moon, Why choose this as our goal. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: they may well ask why climb the highest mountain as

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Speaker 2: Hillary did? Why thirty five years ago fly the Atlantic?

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Speaker 2: Why does Rice play Texas? That was talking about the universities.

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Speaker 2: Why I choose to go to the moon. We choose

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Speaker 2: to go to the moon. We choose to go to

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Speaker 2: the moon in this decade. And we do the other

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Speaker 2: things not because they're easy, but because they are hard.

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Speaker 4: There you go, he referenced. He referenced the climbing of

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Speaker 4: Mount Everest by a New Zealander.

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Speaker 2: Oh we love that, don't we.

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Speaker 5: There's a reason to go to the moon.

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Speaker 2: Susan, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 18: Dead?

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Speaker 15: How are you? I've just been doing the Trump dance

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Speaker 15: at my local supermarket.

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Speaker 20: You're a great Okay?

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Speaker 21: Trump? Trump?

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Speaker 22: Trump?

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Speaker 14: What b So?

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Speaker 5: How do people recognize the Trump dance when you were

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Speaker 5: doing it?

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Speaker 15: I think so people are still so embarrassed to get

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Speaker 15: into it. I did it with my seventy year old

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Speaker 15: girlfriend from Korea. It was so fun I couldn't hold out.

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Speaker 4: I think the Trump dancers the Trump dance is an

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Speaker 4: example of how the Dems didn't get what Trump was doing,

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Speaker 4: because they tried to use the Trump dance to humiliate him,

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Speaker 4: and they didn't realize why keep doing it.

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Speaker 5: But even though.

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Speaker 4: It's fiercely uncool, the Trump dance, it was in its

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Speaker 4: way like iconic, and it drew the people in the

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Speaker 4: everyday people in those kind of weird things he did.

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Speaker 5: People loved it.

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Speaker 2: It was real.

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Speaker 15: Look, the Democrats forgot where they came from. I grew

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Speaker 15: up in Hawaii and my al says her Democrats forever

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Speaker 15: till my uncle, who just passed away at age ninety something,

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Speaker 15: said I do not recognize this party, you know. And look,

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Speaker 15: the Americans were good at We're generous people and we

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Speaker 15: love to dream. And it's just like, mate, it's a

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Speaker 15: time now where old men can dream dreams again. And look,

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Speaker 15: I ask any woman who goes out on any date,

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Speaker 15: you know when you're being lied to? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 15: you just know authenticity. I mean, okay, Obama was a

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Speaker 15: great orchard, but he believed what he was saying. To

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Speaker 15: believe what he was saying. Yeah, Harris, whoever gave her

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Speaker 15: the big donations. And honestly, you can't Trump.

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Speaker 18: Have a fact too.

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Speaker 15: You do not see one fact because and everyone's all like, really,

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Speaker 15: what have you done? The last three and a half years,

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Speaker 15: no one was gonna trust her and then yeah, and

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Speaker 15: her running mate was worse mate sou's an.

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Speaker 2: My producer Andrews was and Maia, did you go to

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Speaker 2: school with Barack Obama?

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Speaker 15: He was five years older than me. We went to

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Speaker 15: the same school and the same school also produced Piero

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Speaker 15: Midiar who started eBay, as well as Case who started AOL.

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Speaker 15: And I want to tell everyone this, and in New

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Speaker 15: Zealand it is so important. Looks the best thing about

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Speaker 15: Trump winning is we all know anyone can do it now.

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Speaker 15: I mean, education is so important. Yeah, Obama doesn't surprise

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Speaker 15: me with his oratory. We hadastic We had fantastic teachers.

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Speaker 15: You know, I know he Zealand has a chauncy problem.

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Speaker 15: And you know, guys go to school. You know, parents

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Speaker 15: encourage your kid's grandparents go to school, be patient and

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Speaker 15: go to school.

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Speaker 4: I've driven past that high school of yours, and I

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Speaker 4: know I have because I was taking a tour in

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Speaker 4: Hawaii on the way to pil Harber and they said

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Speaker 4: that's the school Obama went to high school.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it looked like a school.

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Speaker 18: And.

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Speaker 15: I mean it was like the best school and everything.

657
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Speaker 15: And my parents worked hard looks I had used Christmas

658
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Speaker 15: presents swing up growing up, even though dad was a

659
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Speaker 15: medical doctor, but money was saved to pay for our

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Speaker 15: education to attend that school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just quickly, Susan. Did you mention Obama

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Speaker 2: there and authenticity and we remember that? Yes, we can,

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Speaker 2: and there was a massive movement behind that. Did you

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Speaker 2: believe when he said that that he was being authentic?

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Speaker 23: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: You believed what he was saying. You know, you can tell.

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Speaker 15: I mean, just ask yourself, Ai and people know when

668
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Speaker 15: they're lying to especially they figured it out during lockdown.

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Speaker 2: Would you say the same, sorry to jump in there,

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Speaker 2: would you say the same about Bernie Sanders when he

671
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Speaker 2: made a run and the primaries didn't quite get there,

672
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Speaker 2: lost out to Biden. But would you think Bernie, whether

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Speaker 2: you like them or low than he was authentic?

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Speaker 15: Yeah he believes but he yeah totally and Bernie he will.

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Speaker 15: They kicked him out. I mean really Hillary Barney should

676
00:35:17,933 --> 00:35:20,533
Speaker 15: you know, beat Hillary, but they kicked him out for

677
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Speaker 15: Hillary and Biden. Yeah, it was Biden's time, I guess

678
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Speaker 15: you know Biden. Did you see Jill wearing that red

679
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:37,373
Speaker 15: pants suit yesterday? She was totally trawing Chamela you know,

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Speaker 15: and anyone for me. The decision was made when President

681
00:35:43,453 --> 00:35:47,373
Speaker 15: Trump got shot in Pennsylvania. And it's so ironic how

682
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Speaker 15: that state or he was shot, delivered him the wins.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And when you talk about what if you think about

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Speaker 4: Obama and what he did when he used to use

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Speaker 4: the high Ara tree, he would often reference Abraham Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: And you know, a long time before Obama was ever

688
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Speaker 4: running to be president or office, he studied Abraham Lincoln

689
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Speaker 4: at Harvard University as part of his doctorate, So you

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Speaker 4: know that Obama really did care about Abraham Lincoln and

691
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Speaker 4: what he believed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Abraham Lincoln, of course being a Republican.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Susan. You're fantastic, Thank you very much. It is

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Speaker 2: nine minutes to two.

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Speaker 1: Back in a moment, Matteeth, Tyler Adams taking your calls

696
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Speaker 1: on eight.

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Speaker 3: Madeth and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Afternoons news talks, they'd be seven to two Dallas, our

699
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Speaker 2: old friend. How are you.

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Speaker 24: Hi, guys.

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Speaker 25: It's really good discussions afternoon talking of authenticity. I think

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Speaker 25: in Karma his speeches, you know, you could tell she

703
00:36:47,773 --> 00:36:51,333
Speaker 25: was really sincere and authentic when she's talking about her

704
00:36:51,613 --> 00:36:57,893
Speaker 25: upbringing and also that abortion and issues surrounding women who

705
00:36:57,933 --> 00:37:02,493
Speaker 25: have died or bled out waiting for medical health and

706
00:37:02,573 --> 00:37:06,213
Speaker 25: that kind of thing. That those parts of her speech

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Speaker 25: were really authentic, I thought.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel that people saw her as been a

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Speaker 4: mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. I absolutely believe she was

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Speaker 4: authentic about that stuff. But did you see do you

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00:37:22,173 --> 00:37:24,133
Speaker 4: think people saw that Dallas? That a lot of her

712
00:37:24,173 --> 00:37:26,933
Speaker 4: talking points because they had to rustle the campaign up

713
00:37:26,973 --> 00:37:31,933
Speaker 4: so quickly, and they rolled Biden. When they did that,

714
00:37:32,693 --> 00:37:36,212
Speaker 4: it felt like the machine got behind her and she

715
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Speaker 4: was given talking points from the established Democratic Party that

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Speaker 4: they thought win the election. So some of it she

717
00:37:44,413 --> 00:37:47,133
Speaker 4: seemed legitimate on it. But when she started to bring

718
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Speaker 4: in God, which she suddenly found God at one point,

719
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Speaker 4: and when she was talking about immigration that seemed to

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Speaker 4: be a huge u tune on what she'd said before.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that tested credibility?

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Speaker 19: Yeah? Yeah, it's hard to say that.

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Speaker 25: Like a concession speech is the most difficult speech, isn't it?

724
00:38:07,173 --> 00:38:10,893
Speaker 25: In this morning? Like would you preferred if she came

725
00:38:10,933 --> 00:38:13,933
Speaker 25: out and said that Joe Biden that Barstard really stipped

726
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Speaker 25: me up?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I would of Dallas though, But you're right

728
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Speaker 2: to your point when she went off script, and she

729
00:38:19,733 --> 00:38:22,853
Speaker 2: got emotional, she got passionate. That was the best of ours.

730
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Speaker 2: But the fact the point is she didn't do that enough.

731
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Speaker 2: If she backed herself more and stopped listening to her

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Speaker 2: advisors and went off script in a similar way to Trump.

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Speaker 5: Trump would have been Biden screwed me. I never had

734
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Speaker 5: a chance. It wasn't my fault.

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Speaker 2: I would have far prefer that, because it's real Dallas.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, and when you saw her interact, you know, just

737
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Speaker 25: with one or two people, you know, away from the cameras,

738
00:38:45,093 --> 00:38:48,013
Speaker 25: she was great. She's really great, just one to one

739
00:38:48,853 --> 00:38:52,053
Speaker 25: and that's her. You know, she's laughing and joking and

740
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Speaker 25: really good, good fun to be around. So yeah, we

741
00:38:54,813 --> 00:38:56,813
Speaker 25: didn't see that, did we. We didn't see that from

742
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Speaker 25: the stage.

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Speaker 4: In her defense, I think it was almost possible to

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Speaker 4: run for and against the administration you're in, and no

745
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Speaker 4: one's really been in that position before because you've never

746
00:39:06,813 --> 00:39:10,413
Speaker 4: they've never rolled a in modern that I know. I mean,

747
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Speaker 4: I'm not exactly sure that the Grover situation way back

748
00:39:13,173 --> 00:39:16,493
Speaker 4: in the day. But she had to run against Biden

749
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Speaker 4: and for Biden at the same time. It's a very

750
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Speaker 4: difficult needle to thread.

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Speaker 23: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: God, But at the end of the day, do you

753
00:39:26,133 --> 00:39:29,292
Speaker 25: really think these speeches move a needle that much?

754
00:39:30,093 --> 00:39:31,933
Speaker 5: It's so hard to say, hasn't it.

755
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Speaker 4: And you know, in the end, was it just inflation

756
00:39:35,053 --> 00:39:38,493
Speaker 4: in the border and Trump repeating that that won on

757
00:39:38,573 --> 00:39:38,933
Speaker 4: the election?

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Speaker 5: You don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be analyzed for a long time, as

760
00:39:41,693 --> 00:39:43,773
Speaker 2: they always are. Dallas, thank you very much. We're going

761
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Speaker 2: to pick this back up after two o'clock. Oh eight,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: Nine two ninety two is the text number. Just a reminder.

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Speaker 2: After three is o'clock as well. We want to talk

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00:39:52,653 --> 00:39:54,973
Speaker 2: about jet Skis. It's kicking off in the Bay of Plenty.

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Speaker 5: You had him. I love them.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's coming up very shortly. News, Sport and weather

768
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Speaker 2: on its way. You're listening to Matt and Tilt. Very

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Speaker 2: good afternoon to.

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Speaker 1: You, your new ho for Instateful and enter Teening Talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Sebby, Good afternoon to you, seven past two. Great to

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Speaker 2: have your company, and we are going to carry on

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Speaker 2: the US election discussion. We're gonna transition slightly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, it's the biggest story in the world at

776
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Speaker 4: the moment, and it will be for probably to the

777
00:40:29,613 --> 00:40:32,133
Speaker 4: end of today, but well after three we're going.

778
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Speaker 5: To talk about jet skis, but.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to that.

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Speaker 4: But it's hard to move away from the election right now.

781
00:40:37,573 --> 00:40:40,652
Speaker 4: It's such a shiny object. We were talking about the

782
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Speaker 4: scripted nature of Karmala compared to Trump, who seems to

783
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Speaker 4: be a little bit more off the cuff. Another thing

784
00:40:46,773 --> 00:40:49,013
Speaker 4: that this election might have brought into question is the

785
00:40:49,093 --> 00:40:53,133
Speaker 4: value of the celebrity endorsement. There's no doubt that Carmala

786
00:40:53,213 --> 00:40:57,373
Speaker 4: had more big names in her corner. From George Clooney,

787
00:40:57,733 --> 00:40:59,653
Speaker 4: he had Mark Hamill was out there.

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Speaker 5: Big time, Oprah.

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Speaker 4: There were so many celebrities on her side. Bruce Springsteen

790
00:41:04,573 --> 00:41:08,933
Speaker 4: has always his hal Yeah, Taylor Swift. But it didn't

791
00:41:08,933 --> 00:41:12,212
Speaker 4: seem to shift the dial, and you might question whether

792
00:41:12,253 --> 00:41:17,293
Speaker 4: it was actually a negative impact on her campaign because

793
00:41:17,773 --> 00:41:24,733
Speaker 4: these incredibly wealthy actors and musicians don't necessarily live in

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00:41:24,733 --> 00:41:28,373
Speaker 4: the world that the everyday American does. Well, they definitely

795
00:41:28,413 --> 00:41:30,613
Speaker 4: don't live in the world, but they don't seem to

796
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Speaker 4: be as in touch. And I just want to play

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Speaker 4: some audio to you, so I'm a huge Marvel fan,

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00:41:35,813 --> 00:41:39,813
Speaker 4: and I loved all the Avengers movies. Particularly more recently

799
00:41:39,813 --> 00:41:42,893
Speaker 4: Marvel movies have gone off the boil. But for the

800
00:41:42,933 --> 00:41:46,253
Speaker 4: longest time, there were ten years of fantastic Marvel movies.

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Speaker 4: And I think Scarlett Johanson's an incredible actress. Robert Downey

802
00:41:50,053 --> 00:41:54,253
Speaker 4: Junior is a genius, Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Paul Betney,

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Speaker 4: they are incredible actors. And the Marvel universes is fantastic.

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Speaker 4: But they got together to support Karmela and they assembled

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00:42:04,613 --> 00:42:07,413
Speaker 4: as the Avengers on a zoom call and they released this.

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Speaker 5: And we want to ask the question, oh my.

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Speaker 2: God again again, Oh my God, get with the I.

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Speaker 5: Was on that station for fourteen years. He can't blame me.

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Speaker 5: I've been here for a month.

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Speaker 2: I'll help you out. Oh eight hundred eighty and eight.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, hundred eighty ten eighty. Do you think this

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Speaker 4: kind of celebrity endorsement has any worth anymore?

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Speaker 2: Hire you guys high Avengers.

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Speaker 26: Been on the car?

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Speaker 10: Oh well, I think you mean assemblingn that's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: No, that that was funny, Starlette.

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Speaker 13: It is our pleasure to come together and to get

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Speaker 13: the vote out this election.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, help we be a service.

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Speaker 2: How about we start with what our voting plans are

821
00:42:49,693 --> 00:42:51,093
Speaker 2: going to be, who we're going to bring to the

822
00:42:51,133 --> 00:42:52,732
Speaker 2: polls with us, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 16: Just I think Kamala Harris needs a catch fresh.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, definitely a catch free is how about this?

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Speaker 5: I'm just off the top of my head.

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Speaker 3: I can do this all day. Shut up. I hate it? Okay,

827
00:43:05,653 --> 00:43:06,973
Speaker 3: I mean it's original bunk.

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Speaker 5: What about something punchier?

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Speaker 3: Oh boom, you're looking for this iron Man too?

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Speaker 5: Everybody loved it?

831
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Speaker 2: Okay again, I think we're just trying to get out

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Speaker 2: the folk forever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that helped it all?

834
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Speaker 2: No, no, but do you?

835
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Speaker 4: And is the opinion of actors and musicians that you

836
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Speaker 4: may love.

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Speaker 5: Does that shift the dial for you at all?

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00:43:32,733 --> 00:43:35,573
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of New Zealand's I know Sam

839
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Speaker 4: Neil is definitely.

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Speaker 2: One of our greatest actors, one of our great.

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Speaker 5: Actors, absolute genius.

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Speaker 4: He's heavily left leaning, But does his opinion affect the

843
00:43:44,813 --> 00:43:47,613
Speaker 4: way you would vote? I'm just looking at celebrities that

844
00:43:47,733 --> 00:43:53,333
Speaker 4: came out for Karmela, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, you got Katie Perry,

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00:43:53,453 --> 00:43:57,053
Speaker 4: Harrison Ford, I freaking love Harrison Ford. I think he's

846
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Speaker 4: one of the greatest actors of all time. Indiana Jones

847
00:43:59,973 --> 00:44:03,813
Speaker 4: Hahn solo, he is phenomenal. But do we care his

848
00:44:03,893 --> 00:44:08,653
Speaker 4: opinion on the politics? Taylor Swift undoubtedly talented mus position.

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00:44:09,053 --> 00:44:12,333
Speaker 4: Do we care what she thinks? Jennifer Lopias, It's interesting.

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Speaker 5: Cardi B.

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Speaker 4: Carmela's campaigns were heavily based around bringing big names to rallies. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: she had Eminem, a huge Eminem fan. She had so

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Speaker 4: many stars, the Foo Fighters, Lebron, James, Arnold, Schwarznigger, you know,

854
00:44:30,613 --> 00:44:35,013
Speaker 4: so many people came out for her, and you know Trump,

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Speaker 4: Trump Head, Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for me, I couldn't give two hoots what

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Speaker 2: those people say about who someone should vote for. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if they were to come into the New Zealand election

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Speaker 2: and say we think you should go a particular way,

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Speaker 2: if they're a Hollywood actor, I don't give two hoots

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00:44:51,173 --> 00:44:54,973
Speaker 2: what you think, because you're so outside my reference and reality.

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00:44:55,093 --> 00:44:58,853
Speaker 2: You're a multi multi millionaire living in a mansion with

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Speaker 2: private plans and private jets, and you're going to sit

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00:45:01,853 --> 00:45:04,213
Speaker 2: there on your throne and tell me what's what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I couldn't give two hoots what those people think. And

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Speaker 2: the actors and I respected them acting chops. But these

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Speaker 2: are just people who are in the entertainment industry. Why

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Speaker 2: do they have so much more political knowledge than everybody else?

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Speaker 4: What about tak What if he came out an incredible

870
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Speaker 4: movie director, boy is a fantastic movie.

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Speaker 2: Very successful director. I would not listen to him when

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Speaker 2: it comes to vote for. I can make that decision myself,

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Speaker 2: and I will listen to to who I respect in

874
00:45:32,493 --> 00:45:34,773
Speaker 2: the political realm, but I will do most of my

875
00:45:34,893 --> 00:45:38,973
Speaker 2: own research into the policies that politicians are presenting. I'm

876
00:45:38,973 --> 00:45:40,653
Speaker 2: not going to listen to an actor about who to

877
00:45:40,733 --> 00:45:42,172
Speaker 2: vote for. They are too okay.

878
00:45:42,293 --> 00:45:46,253
Speaker 4: But you're a guy that's involved in news and you're

879
00:45:46,293 --> 00:45:51,213
Speaker 4: across the issues. But you're not a everyday person that

880
00:45:51,733 --> 00:45:56,253
Speaker 4: only thinks, is mainly working and enjoys movies, watch a

881
00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:59,253
Speaker 4: bunch of Netflix, listen to music. You're a very different

882
00:45:59,293 --> 00:46:02,733
Speaker 4: type of person, someone that is not as engaged in politics.

883
00:46:03,493 --> 00:46:09,493
Speaker 4: They might hear that supports a particular and go, oh, yeah,

884
00:46:09,533 --> 00:46:11,293
Speaker 4: I'm in let's go what.

885
00:46:11,333 --> 00:46:13,493
Speaker 2: I'm okay with When they come out and said make

886
00:46:13,533 --> 00:46:15,613
Speaker 2: sure you go and vote I've got no problem with that.

887
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:18,493
Speaker 2: It's when they tried to spin it to say, go

888
00:46:18,493 --> 00:46:20,973
Speaker 2: ahead and vote and vote for Harris because of this,

889
00:46:20,973 --> 00:46:23,093
Speaker 2: this and this reason, and if you don't vote for Harris,

890
00:46:23,093 --> 00:46:25,573
Speaker 2: you're a bad person. I cannot stand.

891
00:46:25,693 --> 00:46:27,693
Speaker 4: There's never been a person that says come out and

892
00:46:27,733 --> 00:46:30,133
Speaker 4: vote that doesn't have an agenda for who they want

893
00:46:30,133 --> 00:46:31,093
Speaker 4: you to vote for us.

894
00:46:31,133 --> 00:46:31,772
Speaker 5: That's for sure.

895
00:46:31,973 --> 00:46:35,253
Speaker 2: I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty celebrity endorsements. Do

896
00:46:35,293 --> 00:46:37,893
Speaker 2: they do more harm than good these days? Reagan? How

897
00:46:37,893 --> 00:46:39,813
Speaker 2: are you you know?

898
00:46:40,213 --> 00:46:41,013
Speaker 27: I'm pretty good, mate.

899
00:46:41,013 --> 00:46:41,653
Speaker 28: I'm just singing.

900
00:46:44,053 --> 00:46:44,773
Speaker 29: I'm just singing.

901
00:46:47,133 --> 00:46:47,853
Speaker 15: He was on.

902
00:46:49,373 --> 00:46:50,373
Speaker 20: He was on the old.

903
00:46:53,173 --> 00:46:53,653
Speaker 18: Can I hear you?

904
00:46:53,813 --> 00:46:53,973
Speaker 11: Ris?

905
00:46:54,093 --> 00:46:54,293
Speaker 21: Yeah?

906
00:46:54,333 --> 00:46:56,173
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got your left nicely.

907
00:46:58,213 --> 00:47:02,653
Speaker 23: So every morning I listen to Don.

908
00:47:04,413 --> 00:47:05,613
Speaker 20: It's been a long time.

909
00:47:05,893 --> 00:47:10,493
Speaker 23: And and then I went to school of a partner.

910
00:47:10,653 --> 00:47:12,773
Speaker 5: What was his name, Jeremy Wells.

911
00:47:13,613 --> 00:47:16,533
Speaker 29: Yeah, yeah, it's class.

912
00:47:16,133 --> 00:47:16,613
Speaker 28: You got the.

913
00:47:16,613 --> 00:47:21,053
Speaker 19: Class, Joey.

914
00:47:22,613 --> 00:47:24,293
Speaker 28: But Trump getting in.

915
00:47:25,653 --> 00:47:26,652
Speaker 20: To me, it's not that.

916
00:47:28,333 --> 00:47:30,813
Speaker 2: Very much. Reagan. Really appreciate your phone call there.

917
00:47:33,053 --> 00:47:34,573
Speaker 4: Got a bit blue there, But I thank you so

918
00:47:34,693 --> 00:47:39,173
Speaker 4: much for your call there. But yeah, I mean it

919
00:47:39,253 --> 00:47:40,693
Speaker 4: might be a little bit different and not me. I

920
00:47:40,693 --> 00:47:44,013
Speaker 4: certainly wouldn't suggest that anyone listens to my opinion or say,

921
00:47:44,053 --> 00:47:46,253
Speaker 4: as a celebrity. Although I have been on some shows

922
00:47:46,253 --> 00:47:51,253
Speaker 4: as a celebrity, like reality TV shows, and when I've

923
00:47:51,253 --> 00:47:52,573
Speaker 4: got the call would you like to be one of

924
00:47:52,573 --> 00:47:56,373
Speaker 4: the celebrity guests, I've gone felt humiliated someone had ever

925
00:47:56,413 --> 00:47:59,893
Speaker 4: called me that, because obviously I'm not. But it might

926
00:47:59,973 --> 00:48:02,813
Speaker 4: be a little bit different the type of celebrity you're

927
00:48:02,813 --> 00:48:08,053
Speaker 4: talking about. For example, Joe Rogan's endorsement of Trump may

928
00:48:08,133 --> 00:48:11,933
Speaker 4: have had more of an impact than say, Taylor Swift's

929
00:48:12,253 --> 00:48:14,853
Speaker 4: endorsement of Karmela, because people have listened to hundreds and

930
00:48:14,893 --> 00:48:19,813
Speaker 4: hundreds of hours of Joe Rogan broadcasting and arguing his

931
00:48:19,893 --> 00:48:23,613
Speaker 4: political political opinions. He'd operated in that realm for much

932
00:48:24,053 --> 00:48:27,813
Speaker 4: a longer period of time. And I mean you could

933
00:48:27,933 --> 00:48:33,253
Speaker 4: argue Bruce Springsteen's maybe his endorsement of Karmala had more

934
00:48:33,293 --> 00:48:37,453
Speaker 4: worth than Taylor Swift's because he sung about working class

935
00:48:37,493 --> 00:48:42,172
Speaker 4: people and the plight of Americans. You know, maybe it's

936
00:48:42,213 --> 00:48:46,252
Speaker 4: not just as simple as Taylor's. You know, as celebrities

937
00:48:46,293 --> 00:48:50,253
Speaker 4: don't help politicians as the particular celebrity that you whip out,

938
00:48:50,653 --> 00:48:52,933
Speaker 4: like Cardi b for example, they whipped her out, and

939
00:48:52,973 --> 00:48:56,213
Speaker 4: she's had a pretty here. She said a lot of

940
00:48:56,213 --> 00:48:59,093
Speaker 4: hairy things over the years, and she's done a few

941
00:48:59,133 --> 00:49:01,253
Speaker 4: quite terrible things in her time. So maybe that's not

942
00:49:01,613 --> 00:49:04,373
Speaker 4: the best celebrity endorsement endorsement to bring out.

943
00:49:05,013 --> 00:49:07,893
Speaker 2: But Ricky Gervais, for example, and he's been hot on this,

944
00:49:08,413 --> 00:49:10,933
Speaker 2: and perhaps to your point, I'm a big fan of

945
00:49:10,973 --> 00:49:14,093
Speaker 2: Ricky Devas, and perhaps because he's come out and said,

946
00:49:14,093 --> 00:49:16,493
Speaker 2: don't listen to people like me. What do I know.

947
00:49:16,773 --> 00:49:20,413
Speaker 2: I'm just a comedian and I've done some successful TV shows,

948
00:49:20,813 --> 00:49:24,533
Speaker 2: but I am not important in terms of political knowledge,

949
00:49:24,533 --> 00:49:26,533
Speaker 2: so don't listen to me. Maybe I took that on

950
00:49:26,613 --> 00:49:27,853
Speaker 2: board because I respect the guy.

951
00:49:28,093 --> 00:49:33,853
Speaker 4: So his endorsement of not taking the endorsements of celebrities was.

952
00:49:33,853 --> 00:49:35,373
Speaker 5: The only endorsement that you care about.

953
00:49:35,413 --> 00:49:37,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to me, ye nicely, pot Oh eight

954
00:49:37,493 --> 00:49:40,053
Speaker 2: one hundred eighty ten eighty. How do you feel about

955
00:49:40,213 --> 00:49:45,373
Speaker 2: celebrity endorsements in twenty twenty four, it is sixteen past two.

956
00:49:45,893 --> 00:49:50,613
Speaker 1: You're new home of Afternoon Talkton Taylor Adams Afternoon Call,

957
00:49:50,773 --> 00:49:53,293
Speaker 1: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

958
00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:56,173
Speaker 2: Said the nineteen past two we're.

959
00:49:56,013 --> 00:50:00,453
Speaker 4: Talking about celebrity political endorsements. They didn't seem to help

960
00:50:00,533 --> 00:50:04,373
Speaker 4: Carmela even though she really leant on them. What's your

961
00:50:04,413 --> 00:50:07,493
Speaker 4: thoughts on this, Marcus, Oh yeah.

962
00:50:07,293 --> 00:50:10,973
Speaker 22: I'm just anyway pick up for the back of the show.

963
00:50:11,013 --> 00:50:11,653
Speaker 22: That was awesome.

964
00:50:13,413 --> 00:50:14,252
Speaker 2: He's still got the scheme.

965
00:50:15,173 --> 00:50:15,413
Speaker 7: Yeah.

966
00:50:17,253 --> 00:50:21,613
Speaker 22: Anyways, I just wish three people would shut up Paddy Gower,

967
00:50:21,693 --> 00:50:26,093
Speaker 22: Helen Clark and Ashley Bloomfield. I mean, Paddy Sakewood is

968
00:50:26,093 --> 00:50:30,573
Speaker 22: now on stuff, so he's like, you know, but but.

969
00:50:30,493 --> 00:50:32,933
Speaker 4: I guess i'd say I'd say to that though, Marcus,

970
00:50:32,933 --> 00:50:36,093
Speaker 4: you wouldn't necessarily call them celebrities in the same way

971
00:50:36,173 --> 00:50:39,133
Speaker 4: as Taylor Swift is a celebrity in that Paddy gow

972
00:50:39,173 --> 00:50:41,652
Speaker 4: with your Greatham or not, is a he's in the

973
00:50:41,693 --> 00:50:46,573
Speaker 4: world of news. Ashley Bloomfield was, you know, he was

974
00:50:46,573 --> 00:50:50,133
Speaker 4: in the position that he was in. And Helen Clark

975
00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:54,493
Speaker 4: was once the prime Prime Minister. So you could argue

976
00:50:54,773 --> 00:50:58,693
Speaker 4: that whether your Greatham or not, they bring some kind

977
00:50:59,133 --> 00:51:02,333
Speaker 4: of knowledge in the area that they're talking about.

978
00:51:04,013 --> 00:51:06,653
Speaker 22: That's Helen Clark, Yes, because she was Prime minister.

979
00:51:07,573 --> 00:51:10,373
Speaker 2: It should be be talking to the converted, wouldn't she

980
00:51:10,613 --> 00:51:14,453
Speaker 2: really People who listened to Helen Clark, they would primarily

981
00:51:14,493 --> 00:51:15,813
Speaker 2: be labor supporters anyway.

982
00:51:16,613 --> 00:51:16,853
Speaker 22: Yeah.

983
00:51:16,933 --> 00:51:17,133
Speaker 5: Yeah.

984
00:51:17,413 --> 00:51:21,813
Speaker 22: As far as US celebrities, I mean that's all. That's

985
00:51:21,853 --> 00:51:27,252
Speaker 22: all globalization. Let's get a bit more high brow these celebrities.

986
00:51:27,533 --> 00:51:29,533
Speaker 22: But all they have to do is release, you know,

987
00:51:29,613 --> 00:51:33,373
Speaker 22: record a song and if it sells worldwide, that's another

988
00:51:33,973 --> 00:51:35,373
Speaker 22: you know, ten million in the bank.

989
00:51:35,773 --> 00:51:36,453
Speaker 19: And that's all.

990
00:51:37,373 --> 00:51:40,573
Speaker 22: That's all it's about. I mean, Hollywood and Washington have

991
00:51:40,613 --> 00:51:44,333
Speaker 22: been in bed since what the nineteen twenties. Then you

992
00:51:44,373 --> 00:51:49,293
Speaker 22: had McCarthyism, and then let's just let's make a mega jump.

993
00:51:50,253 --> 00:51:52,493
Speaker 22: He did his back in jail or as in jail,

994
00:51:53,653 --> 00:51:58,013
Speaker 22: and he's probably like a CIO spy, you know, likes files.

995
00:51:58,093 --> 00:52:00,373
Speaker 22: Nothing's going to come out, but you know they come

996
00:52:00,373 --> 00:52:02,933
Speaker 22: in and do the political thing for me, or will

997
00:52:02,933 --> 00:52:05,813
Speaker 22: find all those ipstin videos have got at the FBI's vault.

998
00:52:08,453 --> 00:52:10,413
Speaker 4: I wasn't happy with the pictures that she had with

999
00:52:10,813 --> 00:52:12,652
Speaker 4: p didd He but to just turn it around the

1000
00:52:12,653 --> 00:52:15,813
Speaker 4: other way, Marcus if a, because I'm a big Bruce

1001
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:20,893
Speaker 4: Prings Springsteen fan, I don't think who he it doesn't

1002
00:52:20,933 --> 00:52:21,973
Speaker 4: work back the other way.

1003
00:52:21,813 --> 00:52:25,453
Speaker 5: And I'm a huge Avengers fan, like just I will

1004
00:52:25,453 --> 00:52:26,813
Speaker 5: not not.

1005
00:52:26,973 --> 00:52:29,413
Speaker 4: Like an artist because of their political views in the

1006
00:52:29,453 --> 00:52:32,813
Speaker 4: same way as I won't have an artist affect my

1007
00:52:32,933 --> 00:52:33,773
Speaker 4: political views.

1008
00:52:35,413 --> 00:52:37,533
Speaker 22: Oh no, no, yeah, I mean I'm into all sorts

1009
00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:40,133
Speaker 22: of metals, and some of them are bit woke, like

1010
00:52:40,973 --> 00:52:41,652
Speaker 22: Napalm Deaf.

1011
00:52:41,693 --> 00:52:42,453
Speaker 5: He's very woke.

1012
00:52:42,533 --> 00:52:43,613
Speaker 22: And I went to his gig and it was an

1013
00:52:43,653 --> 00:52:46,093
Speaker 22: awesome gig. Well he spoiled it by being woke, but

1014
00:52:46,133 --> 00:52:49,453
Speaker 22: I still had a good time. A great guy anyway,

1015
00:52:49,453 --> 00:52:50,293
Speaker 22: whatever his name is.

1016
00:52:50,453 --> 00:52:53,413
Speaker 5: Yeah, dea guy that's enough for most people.

1017
00:52:53,573 --> 00:52:55,893
Speaker 2: That no fair enough to Marcus. Thank you very much

1018
00:52:55,933 --> 00:52:58,813
Speaker 2: for giving us a buzz. It is twenty two past.

1019
00:52:58,613 --> 00:53:01,933
Speaker 4: Two, Yeah, and we'll play coming up next to that

1020
00:53:02,013 --> 00:53:05,333
Speaker 4: Ricky Gervass audio from the Bath where he put his

1021
00:53:05,613 --> 00:53:08,133
Speaker 4: thoughts across about celebrity endorsements.

1022
00:53:08,733 --> 00:53:10,533
Speaker 2: That's coming up very surely. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1023
00:53:10,533 --> 00:53:12,533
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call. Love your thoughts

1024
00:53:12,533 --> 00:53:13,613
Speaker 2: on this one back in a.

1025
00:53:13,613 --> 00:53:20,573
Speaker 1: Mow Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons, call oh eight

1026
00:53:20,653 --> 00:53:23,053
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty on News Talks EDB.

1027
00:53:23,733 --> 00:53:26,973
Speaker 2: News Talks EDB. It is twenty four past two before

1028
00:53:27,013 --> 00:53:29,172
Speaker 2: we play that Ricky de Base audio. Ray how are you.

1029
00:53:30,213 --> 00:53:30,973
Speaker 9: I'm good, Taylor.

1030
00:53:30,973 --> 00:53:31,533
Speaker 23: How are you home?

1031
00:53:31,533 --> 00:53:31,813
Speaker 22: Matte?

1032
00:53:32,373 --> 00:53:34,293
Speaker 2: Yeah? Mate, Now you didn't see Matt down at the

1033
00:53:34,293 --> 00:53:35,133
Speaker 2: Empire yesterday.

1034
00:53:35,773 --> 00:53:38,573
Speaker 9: It doesn't like keeps the layout. I thought it comes fine, mate,

1035
00:53:38,573 --> 00:53:41,413
Speaker 9: because I was looking quite the spite wearing Omega hat

1036
00:53:41,493 --> 00:53:44,173
Speaker 9: and a in the American flag T shirt.

1037
00:53:44,773 --> 00:53:47,093
Speaker 4: I had a big look around for you down there

1038
00:53:47,093 --> 00:53:52,293
Speaker 4: at that that election event, that the American consul election event.

1039
00:53:52,293 --> 00:53:52,893
Speaker 5: I couldn't see.

1040
00:53:52,973 --> 00:53:55,133
Speaker 4: I was in and out pretty quickly because I actually

1041
00:53:55,173 --> 00:53:56,933
Speaker 4: definitely want to say, how had it pan out?

1042
00:53:56,973 --> 00:53:58,373
Speaker 5: Was it a good, good afternoon?

1043
00:53:59,373 --> 00:54:01,733
Speaker 9: It was really good. I thought it was quite interesting.

1044
00:54:01,733 --> 00:54:05,133
Speaker 9: Probably the crowd was I would have said, more Harris

1045
00:54:05,133 --> 00:54:08,773
Speaker 9: than Trump. Made it like a little pseudo fi And

1046
00:54:08,933 --> 00:54:11,973
Speaker 9: I think who said of the crowd voted for Paris,

1047
00:54:12,013 --> 00:54:14,853
Speaker 9: which kind of I guess because lately maybe the way

1048
00:54:14,893 --> 00:54:17,893
Speaker 9: that that they were leaning. I thought it was quite interesting.

1049
00:54:17,893 --> 00:54:20,053
Speaker 9: I think I was just having a very general chat

1050
00:54:20,133 --> 00:54:24,253
Speaker 9: to a reporter from the Gerald who will remain nameless,

1051
00:54:24,293 --> 00:54:26,533
Speaker 9: and we were just talking generally about how do you

1052
00:54:26,533 --> 00:54:29,533
Speaker 9: think we're win and he said he he genuinely believed

1053
00:54:29,853 --> 00:54:34,813
Speaker 9: that Harris won all the swing states, and and you know,

1054
00:54:35,293 --> 00:54:37,773
Speaker 9: I think at the time, and in retrospect, it's just

1055
00:54:37,893 --> 00:54:41,212
Speaker 9: I just think it's crazy that someone would genuinely think

1056
00:54:41,253 --> 00:54:42,093
Speaker 9: that was going to happen.

1057
00:54:43,013 --> 00:54:43,293
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1058
00:54:44,453 --> 00:54:50,853
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think they did not work for Harris because

1059
00:54:50,893 --> 00:54:53,213
Speaker 9: I don't think they were targeting the people who needed

1060
00:54:53,213 --> 00:54:56,733
Speaker 9: to be targeted, who were the working class Americans. You know,

1061
00:54:56,733 --> 00:54:59,053
Speaker 9: you had Taylor's works. Okay, so you get a fee

1062
00:54:59,133 --> 00:55:02,373
Speaker 9: more cat cat ladies coming along to vote for it,

1063
00:55:02,493 --> 00:55:04,973
Speaker 9: I get it, But I just don't think they were

1064
00:55:05,013 --> 00:55:07,652
Speaker 9: in aspective way to get lots of fighters on. I

1065
00:55:07,693 --> 00:55:10,653
Speaker 9: think what worked really well for Trump and jad Bars

1066
00:55:10,813 --> 00:55:14,533
Speaker 9: was almost getting the endorsement without getting the endorsement. So

1067
00:55:15,213 --> 00:55:18,213
Speaker 9: what I mean is by doing the podcast with Doe Rogan,

1068
00:55:18,493 --> 00:55:19,652
Speaker 9: or doing the podcast with.

1069
00:55:19,773 --> 00:55:22,253
Speaker 6: The Bonds, doing the podcast with and.

1070
00:55:22,293 --> 00:55:25,893
Speaker 9: Desholtz, we're okay people, just a chance to see how

1071
00:55:25,933 --> 00:55:30,053
Speaker 9: normal both those people were. Jad Bars and Trumps were

1072
00:55:30,173 --> 00:55:35,853
Speaker 9: normal people with normal desires, normal thoughts, and normal aspirations

1073
00:55:35,893 --> 00:55:37,613
Speaker 9: for themselves and for Americas.

1074
00:55:38,053 --> 00:55:38,252
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1075
00:55:38,533 --> 00:55:42,093
Speaker 9: I always said to people, just taking everything you see

1076
00:55:42,133 --> 00:55:45,973
Speaker 9: on the media as truth about Trump, you're missing out

1077
00:55:45,973 --> 00:55:48,533
Speaker 9: on a whole different part of him. It's very hard

1078
00:55:48,533 --> 00:55:51,813
Speaker 9: to watch those podcasts and not come away thinking Okay,

1079
00:55:52,013 --> 00:55:55,773
Speaker 9: he gets it and he's a pretty normal person, and

1080
00:55:55,853 --> 00:55:59,493
Speaker 9: I think that's why those endorsements were a lot more valuable.

1081
00:55:59,693 --> 00:56:02,093
Speaker 9: I thought it was interesting when Trump did the acceptance

1082
00:56:02,133 --> 00:56:05,813
Speaker 9: speech that he brought on Dana White, Like, how what

1083
00:56:05,933 --> 00:56:08,533
Speaker 9: a problem for Dana White. So the CEO of the

1084
00:56:08,613 --> 00:56:11,973
Speaker 9: UFC to be invited up by Donald Trump to do

1085
00:56:12,173 --> 00:56:15,173
Speaker 9: to speak when he was accepting that he had become

1086
00:56:15,253 --> 00:56:16,453
Speaker 9: a forty sound prisons.

1087
00:56:17,133 --> 00:56:19,652
Speaker 2: So do you think the classic at least called the

1088
00:56:19,693 --> 00:56:22,613
Speaker 2: mainstream celebrities, Hollywood celebrities, do you think they've been a

1089
00:56:22,613 --> 00:56:25,413
Speaker 2: bit tainted? Their credibility is not what it once was.

1090
00:56:27,893 --> 00:56:30,333
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think they would agree. They probably all lean

1091
00:56:30,453 --> 00:56:34,093
Speaker 9: politically to the Democrats, and that's probably a reason why

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Speaker 9: they would may not be believed or valued by the

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Speaker 9: mainstream public. And if the thing is, all the podcasts

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Speaker 9: like Rogan p A vonn Andrew Schultz, they're all having

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Speaker 9: conversations with these guys. They're not trying to got your moments,

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Speaker 9: and they're not certainly not saying we think you should

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Speaker 9: vote for Donald Trump. We're just saying they're just I

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Speaker 9: feel they're just they have a conversation with the ways

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Speaker 9: of Donald trust Trump and Daily barn to just and I.

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Speaker 6: Think that st up as much more better to get

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Speaker 6: us and informed about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, thanks for that. Ray. Just looking at some

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Speaker 5: celebrity endorsements for Trump.

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Speaker 4: Here we go, Caitlyn Jenna, right, Caitlyn Jenna was in there,

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00:57:24,293 --> 00:57:27,493
Speaker 4: Jake Paul supporting Trump, Buzz, Aldron went to the Moon

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00:57:27,813 --> 00:57:31,013
Speaker 4: Buzz he came out for for for Trump. You got

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Speaker 4: doctor Phil Trump side Tony Hinchcliffe, which caused a few

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00:57:36,213 --> 00:57:39,653
Speaker 4: problems for Trump after his Puerto Rico stand up at

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Speaker 4: the Medicine Square Garden.

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Speaker 5: Event.

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Speaker 4: Mel Gibson, he was in the Trump camp, so a

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Speaker 4: fantastic actor. He's also Brett fav was in there, the

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Speaker 4: football player. Yeah, so there were there were some on

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Speaker 4: the Trump side as well.

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Speaker 2: Got a couple.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do feel that KRMLA sort of leaned

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Speaker 4: on them a little bit more, and she sort of

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00:58:02,013 --> 00:58:03,973
Speaker 4: had that little bit of a problem when she had

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Speaker 4: Beyonce out for that rally in Texas and then Beyonce

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Speaker 4: didn't perform. Yeah, people all but just point about that,

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00:58:10,813 --> 00:58:12,933
Speaker 4: because that's the thing. If you bring out a musician

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00:58:12,933 --> 00:58:16,333
Speaker 4: and they don't perform and they just speak, then you're

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Speaker 4: not really getting what that person is great at.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now we mentioned before Ricky Devas and he's he

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00:58:23,413 --> 00:58:25,773
Speaker 2: doesn't hold as punches when it comes to celebrities. He

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Speaker 2: certainly seems to not like celebrity culture. When he's hosted

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Speaker 2: the Oscars of the Golden Globes, he lays into them.

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Speaker 2: And this was a week clip from him that went

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Speaker 2: global during the election.

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Speaker 12: Hi, guys, d here, Well, there's some beauty influencer as

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00:58:42,173 --> 00:58:46,293
Speaker 12: a celebrity. I am in all about starf like science

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00:58:46,453 --> 00:58:49,853
Speaker 12: and politics. So trust me when I tell you if

1134
00:58:49,853 --> 00:58:52,853
Speaker 12: you vote for if you don't vote the right way,

1135
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Speaker 12: it's like a hate crime.

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Speaker 3: It makes me sad and angry and I'll leave the country.

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Speaker 3: And you don't want that.

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Speaker 2: Very good. He's a clever guy, isn't he.

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00:59:04,453 --> 00:59:06,933
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's some decent sarcasm there.

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Speaker 2: You got to say, yeah, eight hundred at eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighty celebrity endorsements, do they do more harm than good?

1142
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Speaker 2: Love to hear from you? It is bang on hapas.

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Speaker 3: Two Deuce talks at the headlines with.

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Speaker 18: Blue bubble taxis, it's no trouble with a blue bubble

1145
00:59:23,533 --> 00:59:26,373
Speaker 18: ten scenes in the house as the treaty Principal's Bill

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Speaker 18: is introduced to Parliament. The part de Mardi co leaders

1147
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Speaker 18: debbing Ardea Wapaka and Rahwerdi Waititi attempted a number of

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Speaker 18: times to have the bill withdrawn. One person's in custody

1149
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Speaker 18: after armed police responded to a lockdown at Auckland's White

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Speaker 18: Arcty Hospital this afternoon. Carmala Harris has told her supporters

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Speaker 18: to continue fighting and echoed words spoken by Martin Luther

1152
00:59:50,813 --> 00:59:54,333
Speaker 18: King as she conceded the presidential election to Donald Trump.

1153
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Speaker 18: He's romp to victory, winning two hundred and ninety one

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Speaker 18: electoral votes as against Harris on two hundred and twenty three.

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Speaker 18: Running mate to Wall says campaigning with Harris was an

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01:00:04,773 --> 01:00:07,733
Speaker 18: honor and privilege, and he's grateful to the millions of

1157
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Speaker 18: Americans who joined them to stand for decency and compassion.

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01:00:12,293 --> 01:00:15,173
Speaker 18: Women and older people continue to be more likely to

1159
01:00:15,293 --> 01:00:18,293
Speaker 18: live alone, but new census data shows the numbers of

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01:00:18,333 --> 01:00:21,653
Speaker 18: those sixty five and older has fallen three point five

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Speaker 18: percent from twenty thirteen to twenty five point three. Forget

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Speaker 18: the spring Box Ireland is Scott Robertson's biggest all Blacks test.

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Speaker 18: Read greg Or Paul's full column at anzid Herald Premium.

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Speaker 18: Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleane. It's twenty sixty three.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about celebrity endorsements, and there's been thrown out

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Speaker 4: there by a few commentators political commentators that the celebrity

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01:00:46,933 --> 01:00:51,613
Speaker 4: endorsement is dead because it is perceived that it may

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Speaker 4: not have helped Krmler at all, in fact, may have

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Speaker 4: hindered her campaign. This text on nine two ninety two disagrees.

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Speaker 4: These people have been very successful. It's not just creative.

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Speaker 4: To be successful as a musician or actor, you have

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Speaker 4: to deal with people. You have to organize your business.

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Speaker 4: I think people at George Clooney and Oprah are worth

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Speaker 4: listening to.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough to there you go, Tom, what's your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on this?

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Speaker 30: Yeah, I'd say it's a bit of who would have

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01:01:16,933 --> 01:01:20,613
Speaker 30: put it nice for a Yeah, it's it's.

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Speaker 20: Got to be.

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Speaker 30: It's got to be. I mean, she got a billion

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Speaker 30: dollars to throw around like confetti, and she picked up

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Speaker 30: these guys. I think she had to even pay them

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Speaker 30: to turn up. When you have to do that, then

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Speaker 30: are they there for the right reasons?

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Speaker 5: M Yeah, but you.

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Speaker 4: Certain wouldn't You wouldn't have to pay Oprah to turn

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Speaker 4: up though, because she's with billions of dollars herself, Karmela No, no, yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: Oprah though, I'm Oprah came out and supported car.

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Speaker 30: Yeah she was rapid for Yeah, No, she was all

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01:01:54,933 --> 01:01:57,093
Speaker 30: into it. But a lot of the others, I mean,

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Speaker 30: they had to had to spend a small fortune to

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Speaker 30: get them to come on on stage, and I don't

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Speaker 30: think they were authentic when they were up there.

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Speaker 2: But let's talk about George Clooney and as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: their Oprah and Taylor's worst. Now, I don't know one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent, but I'm sure those guys weren't paid by

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Speaker 2: the by the Harris campaign to say that they're going

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Speaker 2: to vote Harris. They just did that because they thought

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Speaker 2: that was the right thing to do in their sort

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Speaker 2: of group of fans. But for you, that's just a

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Speaker 2: waste of time. I mean, that's that speaking to the

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Speaker 2: converted already, and you don't think it moves the dial.

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Speaker 30: No, I mean the faith in Hollywood have lately, p Diddyon,

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Speaker 30: what have you, And that's who those guys have. You know,

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Speaker 30: they've got egg on their face a fair bit and

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Speaker 30: I think that's I think Trump was a master's stroke.

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Speaker 30: And if you haven't good Trump with his campaign managers

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Speaker 30: that was There was the other two people that he

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Speaker 30: brought out on his acceptance speech, and they were quite

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Speaker 30: They were very not what you would have thought. One

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Speaker 30: was a lady of I would say about sixty years

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Speaker 30: of age, looked like she was from out of accounts,

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Speaker 30: very very down to earth. And the guy spoke and

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Speaker 30: they were the campaign managers. And I think and Trump

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Speaker 30: thanked his family, but he gave a lot of kudos

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Speaker 30: to those two people there. And they were in their

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Speaker 30: sixties or fifties, sixties. I thought they'd be young, young

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Speaker 30: people and they knew where to hat and I would

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Speaker 30: have said, they knew you to stay well clear of celebrities.

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Speaker 30: And I think this whole world is built on it

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Speaker 30: and people are starting to see through it. It's a

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Speaker 30: bit shallow.

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Speaker 4: What about the likes of Lebron James though, I mean

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Speaker 4: a very focused individual.

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Speaker 5: He's hugely successful at his sport. Do you would muster?

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Speaker 4: He has shown how hard you can work at something,

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Speaker 4: so does someone like him? Does his endorsement mean mean

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Speaker 4: anything to you at all?

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Speaker 30: Yes, you're so you're going to get one or so

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Speaker 30: out of that mob. So yes, I've got a cutos

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Speaker 30: to that guy, for sure. But they were just signing

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Speaker 30: them out there like confetti, and it was like nauseating,

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Speaker 30: it really did. Where where you look at you look

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Speaker 30: at Trump's lot, they were there for the cause, truly,

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Speaker 30: and they were people of of some some magnitude. I

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Speaker 30: mean elin where as you say with the rocket as

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Speaker 30: he weaved around it, or as the rocket weave back

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Speaker 30: towards base. Yeah, Trump's got that down to fight art.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which, whatever way you think about it, which every

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Speaker 5: way you lean politically in Hollywood, you risk a lot

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Speaker 5: more if you endorse Trump than if you endorse Karmela.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you can become and it's been showing, a pariah

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Speaker 4: in Hollywood if you go the wrong way. I mean California,

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Speaker 4: Hollywood is incredibly left leaning place. So you could argue

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Speaker 4: someone that is in Hollywood that supports Trump as sacrificing

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Speaker 4: a lot more to do it.

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Speaker 2: Certainly, can you think of any celebrities or or powerhouses

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Speaker 2: of industry that have changed your mind on who you're

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Speaker 2: going to vote for?

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Speaker 18: Me?

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Speaker 4: I just can't imagine that happening. But I think I'm

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Speaker 4: quite different because we're not really asking about us. We're

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Speaker 4: asking about how it affects the election. And people across

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Speaker 4: you know that don't follow the news cycle because I do.

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Speaker 4: I have to for my job. But a lot of

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01:05:29,933 --> 01:05:31,533
Speaker 4: people just get up in the morning, they've got to

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Speaker 4: work all day, they're tired at night. They maybe want

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Speaker 4: to be entertained. They don't read everything that we have

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Speaker 4: to read for our job. So I guess they're banking

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Speaker 4: a little bit on that. When you bring out a

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Speaker 4: celebrity endorsement, you bring out someone that you know you love.

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Speaker 4: Eminem for example, hugely, hugely successful recording artists. When he

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Speaker 4: comes out for Kamela, you know, their campaign is hoping

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Speaker 4: that people that don't follow politics in every second but

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Speaker 4: respect this artist, then go, well, if he likes her

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01:06:05,173 --> 01:06:07,693
Speaker 4: then and I like him, and I like what he's

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Speaker 4: had to say over the years, then maybe she's got something.

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Speaker 4: But so for me, no, it would never affect my

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Speaker 4: opinion of all But equally, on the other side, it

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Speaker 4: wouldn't affect my opinion of their work either. No, because

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to not think Robert Downey Jr. Is

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01:06:24,533 --> 01:06:27,933
Speaker 4: genius If he happened to support something that I don't support.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's certainly been people John Stuart for example, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: very very successful show host, very successful, what you could

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Speaker 2: call him a comedian, very smart guy. He would I

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Speaker 2: don't think he endorsed anybody straight out endorsed either side.

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01:06:42,133 --> 01:06:45,813
Speaker 2: Clearly he would lean more towards the harrisidemissively. But some

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Speaker 2: of the things he talks about, because it's not a

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Speaker 2: straight up endorsement, but he's talking about things that I

1282
01:06:51,613 --> 01:06:54,533
Speaker 2: wouldn't have thought of before. Why that shifts the dial.

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Speaker 4: Comedy is a different thing because comedy can cut through

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01:06:57,293 --> 01:07:00,293
Speaker 4: and make observations that point out the ridiculousness of the situation.

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Speaker 4: You played Ricky Jervais before. He's using comedy to make

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01:07:03,733 --> 01:07:06,933
Speaker 4: a point, and comedy can be sharper than any argument.

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Speaker 4: But also with John Stewart, and he talked about back

1288
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Speaker 4: in the day when he was first doing the Daily Show,

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Speaker 4: how he was just ripping Fox News and he's ripping

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Speaker 4: the Republicans, And what was an interesting change for him

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Speaker 4: was that the Democrats had changed to such a point

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Speaker 4: where whilst he was still ripping Trump side more, he

1293
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Speaker 4: was finding a lot of comedy in the Democrats' side,

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Speaker 4: and for example, he absolutely ripped the left for their

1295
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Speaker 4: comments and the way they portrayed the rally at Madison

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Speaker 4: Square Garden. He absolutely ripped them on that one. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean comedy and John Stuart's very smart guy, so

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's not that his endorsement isn't isn't

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Speaker 4: as decisive as if he makes an observation that makes

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Speaker 4: someone seem ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a

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Speaker 2: number to call. It's nineteen to three in your new.

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Speaker 1: Home of afternoon torm Taylor Adams afternoon call, Oh, eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty gen eighty news talks'd.

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Speaker 2: Be good afternoon at sixteen to three.

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Speaker 4: We're still focused on the US election, as a lot

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Speaker 4: of people will be, because it's a big, shiny object,

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01:08:19,933 --> 01:08:24,612
Speaker 4: is what everyone is talking about with we're looking at

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Speaker 4: sort of a side angle on it. I guess you'd

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Speaker 4: say in celebrity endorsements, because it has been suggested that

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Speaker 4: Carmela's failure in the election is the death of celebrity

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Speaker 4: endorsements because the campaign leaned heavily on them. Your thoughts

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Speaker 4: on this, Trevor.

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Speaker 2: Hey, God, how are you, Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, no, I got some thoughts on the election. But

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Speaker 14: before I go, I just want to tell you about

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Speaker 14: one in New Zealand clibrity endorsement just almost as rong

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Speaker 14: as inducing, but you know, it just actually staggers me really,

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Speaker 14: that somebody voting in an election would be swayed by

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Speaker 14: a celebrity. I mean, I just cannot get my head

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Speaker 14: around that, especially the stupid Democrats. I mean I remember

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Speaker 14: clearly in twenty sixteen they you know, seeing in all

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Speaker 14: those channels they were making a big point and laughing

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Speaker 14: at Trump because nobody would you sing for them before

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Speaker 14: from and you know they had all the other people

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Speaker 14: in twenty sixteen and it made no difference.

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Speaker 11: What's going through what's going through Lebron's mind?

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Speaker 14: What does he think because he says support Kamala, people

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Speaker 14: are going to do it.

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Speaker 4: I think, Trevor, I think, Trevor, sorry to cut you

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Speaker 4: off there, but I think what they think is they

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Speaker 4: believe really passionately, A lot of them believe really passionately,

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Speaker 4: rightly or wrongly, in a candidate, and they feel that

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Speaker 4: they have influence, that they have a following, that people,

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Speaker 4: they have an audience, and they feel compelled to try

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Speaker 4: and try and bring that audience to the to the

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Speaker 4: candidate that they support. So I think it's it's sort

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Speaker 4: of comes for them. They feel like they can't stay silent.

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Speaker 14: Oh well, good on the moon. If they feel that way,

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Speaker 14: would I just some of them learned the left. I mean,

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Speaker 14: you know, if it worked for them yesterday Kamala got

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Speaker 14: should all vote for herself? Didn't?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I mean you know, I mean, if you've got a

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Speaker 14: lot of oats, yes, But what do I want to

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Speaker 14: talk about? In New Zealand? Something very similar?

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Speaker 20: I don't know.

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Speaker 14: Have you seen that Dean Carter at advertising his new perfume?

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Speaker 5: I have heard about it?

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Speaker 11: Yes, is that vomit inducing Daniels telling us about all

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Speaker 11: of cedar wood that's in it and the three eighteen

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Speaker 11: circles represent the eighteen years he toured.

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Speaker 14: Through rugby and he wants you to enjoy it. Do

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Speaker 14: people actually buy that the.

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Speaker 2: Man's going to make a living? I'm not going to.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's a whole different issue.

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Speaker 4: You know, X players making a bit of money off

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Speaker 4: off a product that they tie themselves to.

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Speaker 5: I haven't.

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Speaker 4: I haven't tried the DC ten yet. But I've heard

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Speaker 4: reasonable things about it. Is there any celebrity out there,

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Speaker 4: Trevor that that whose opinion you really respect?

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Speaker 14: But what for voting for a political I mean you

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Speaker 14: might listen to them about I don't think no, because

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Speaker 14: I've got my thoughts on I mean maybe younger people might.

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Speaker 14: But you know, when you get to middle age and

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Speaker 14: you've lived life, you know some of those celebrities haven't lived.

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Speaker 14: They're living in a fault. I mean, we know, or

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Speaker 14: anybody who's lived life know that those people from Hollywood

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Speaker 14: live in an absolutely false world. You know, why would

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Speaker 14: you put any credence on what they say?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 4: I think the thing with actors particularly is an interesting

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Speaker 4: one because musicians, you might hear what they say in

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Speaker 4: their words and their lyrics that they write themselves, if

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Speaker 4: they write their own music. But an actor is famous

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Speaker 4: for reading someone else's words. Yeah, so it's prec I

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Speaker 4: think the celebrity endorsements from the actors are probably the

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Speaker 4: weakest of all.

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Speaker 2: Franco, what's your thoughts?

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Speaker 31: I I'm just going to get this out there. I

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Speaker 31: think you have to be pretty empty minded to vote

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Speaker 31: for a political candidate based on celebrities. I mean, look,

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Speaker 31: most of the celebrities endorsing Kamala. You might say that

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Speaker 31: they aren't being paid, but I mean yet again, they're

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Speaker 31: not being paid, but they're also tied with an association

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Speaker 31: with you know, P Diddy, and that gets to the

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Speaker 31: point where it's like, you know, I feel like they

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Speaker 31: actually have no choice. I think that's kind of obvious

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Speaker 31: here because they've got a lot of dirt on them, right,

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Speaker 31: So what do you think the scenario is with that

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Speaker 31: they've got a lot of dirt on them, they have

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Speaker 31: no choice but to endorse the agenda that's going You know,

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Speaker 31: that is the agenda. It's clearly always been. You know,

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Speaker 31: Trump's the convicted, fallon and Kamala, you know, all these celebrities.

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Speaker 31: They're trying to get the target audience of young people.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, and I think that was a big part

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Speaker 4: of it, getting the young people and maybe people that

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Speaker 4: aren't across politics as much as maybe you are or

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Speaker 4: I am, but they are across the stars that they love.

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Speaker 4: And I think that celebrit endorsements would definitely be will

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Speaker 4: more likely be focused towards young people than then people

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Speaker 4: that have been been around the block a few times.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to.

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Speaker 4: The idea that there's a list that will be released

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Speaker 4: and that the Democratic Party would have gone to them

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Speaker 4: and said, if you don't support us, we're going to

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Speaker 4: release the names. I think that that would might be

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Speaker 4: a strip step too far and becoming a little bit conspiratorial,

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Speaker 4: which you know, in some conspiracies have definitely come true,

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Speaker 4: that's true. Just because it's conspiracy doesn't mean it's true.

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Speaker 4: But I can imagine a possibility where people worry that

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Speaker 4: for certain candid candidate gets that gets into power than

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Speaker 4: their particular power in their life, and whatever business or

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Speaker 4: you know, creative will therein will be under threat for

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Speaker 4: whatever reason.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What I really don't like just to bring back to

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Speaker 2: the celebrity endorsements and whether they are not they're associated

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Speaker 2: with something nefarious, but it's the pontificating and it's the

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Speaker 2: arrogance and the smugness that comes from some of them.

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Speaker 2: And read a story today on the hero It about

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Speaker 2: Christina Applegate was a very successful actor for a long time.

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Speaker 2: She's had her problems, but she came out and love

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Speaker 2: me basically tweeted, how dare you? How could you do this? America?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So what right does she have to accuse half of

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Speaker 2: America of being idiots. I don't like about it.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'd say she's got absolutely every right to say

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Speaker 5: whatever she.

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Speaker 4: Wants, whether people listen to her or not. As the issue,

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Speaker 4: so does she have credibility? Do you hear her say that? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Go for your life, ye talk, say whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: It's got The question for voters and people you know

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Speaker 4: that are making a decision in anything is does that

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Speaker 4: person have any credibility because they were and married with children.

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01:14:53,732 --> 01:14:56,932
Speaker 4: She was fantastic in that show, and she's been great

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Speaker 4: and a bunch of other things, and command a big

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Speaker 4: fan of hers. But would I listen to her opinion

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Speaker 4: on a number of things? If my car was broken

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Speaker 4: down on the side of the road and Chris app

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Speaker 4: pulled up, I would ask if she knew if she

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Speaker 4: was a mechanic before I'd ask her advice on how to.

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Speaker 5: Fix my car.

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Speaker 2: Yeuh yeah, nicely, said O eight one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty. It is ninety three.

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Speaker 3: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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Speaker 3: along the way.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Four, you've talk said, be good afternoon, go text her

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01:15:31,093 --> 01:15:33,293
Speaker 4: at nine two niney two, God's sake, never heard so

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Speaker 4: much trouble.

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Speaker 5: The celebrities are actually very educated too. Boys. Bring back

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Speaker 5: those other guys.

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Speaker 2: Mea, how are you?

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Speaker 18: Ah?

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Speaker 8: Hi?

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Speaker 26: Sorry, something came on with the head. This is hilarious.

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Speaker 26: So I'm a huge Prince fan. And when I saw

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Speaker 26: Harris take the Minnesota guy Tim into Paisley Park, and

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Speaker 26: so I belonged to a lot of you know, Prince

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Speaker 26: fan clubs, a kind of Prince pages, everybody just everybody

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Speaker 26: fell for it. Everybody just basically says, you've got our votes,

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Speaker 26: and it's like, how long have you been listening to Prince?

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Speaker 26: And these of some hardcore Prince fans you know that

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Speaker 26: know every bootleg and they just completely fell for it

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Speaker 26: that you know, took her into Pacey Park talking about

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Speaker 26: Prince and I'm like, you know, this was not what

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Speaker 26: he was about, and it happened. And so now I'm here,

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Speaker 26: I'm off for those pages.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. Though, I'm a huge Prince fan.

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Speaker 4: I went to see him at a center a number

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Speaker 4: of years ago when he was just doing that piano tour,

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Speaker 4: and that was one of the greatest things I've ever

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Speaker 4: seen in my life. I could not believe I was

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Speaker 4: in such a small theater with Prince just down there

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Speaker 4: on a piano singing. I actually I shed tears. It

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Speaker 4: was such a beautiful experience. And I've been to see

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Speaker 4: him a few times. I went to see him at

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Speaker 4: Wembley in London and went over to Sydney to see

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Speaker 4: him as well. I absolutely love Prince, and yeah, to

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Speaker 4: be that close to what is just one of the

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Speaker 4: greatest geniuses of our time, I couldn't believe it. And

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Speaker 4: he died not so long after that. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean that guy. I don't know about his thoughts on politics,

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Speaker 4: but he is a once and a generation genius.

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Speaker 2: If you asked me, yeah mea thank you very much.

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01:17:22,933 --> 01:17:27,772
Speaker 2: Great call, Nico. We've got thirty seconds really quickly.

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Speaker 32: In Sleps must just realized that when they endorsed somebody

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Speaker 32: and tried to influence their followers, at the same time

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Speaker 32: they also estranging a group of their followers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very true.

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Speaker 32: And then, and I also don't know why selepskink that

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01:17:43,772 --> 01:17:47,013
Speaker 32: they can swade into politics. Of course, all that they

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Speaker 32: do is very scripts and smile, but I've definitely not

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Speaker 32: learned politicians.

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Speaker 2: Yep, nicely said. I mean that's why Taylor Sworft held

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01:17:55,093 --> 01:17:58,213
Speaker 2: off for so long Wright, as there was well an

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Speaker 2: argument there that she was concerned she'd put off some

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Speaker 2: of her fans. Yeah, and she held off right to

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Speaker 2: the last minute. But it didn't seem to make much difference.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And if you did it happen to support Trump as

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01:18:07,572 --> 01:18:09,812
Speaker 4: an actor, he would be really risking your career, that's

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Speaker 4: for sure, because the left wing nature of Hollywood.

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Speaker 5: But up next, we're going to move away from the

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Speaker 5: American election.

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Speaker 4: We're going to pry ourselves off, and Tyler's going to

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Speaker 4: put the boot in on jet Skis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:18:19,973 --> 01:18:23,173
Speaker 2: The Welser is back for another banning season. No more

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01:18:23,293 --> 01:18:25,692
Speaker 2: jet skis a bit more nuance than that. That's coming

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Speaker 2: up by way one hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is

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Speaker 2: the number to call. Nine two ninety two is the text.

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Speaker 2: It is three minutes to three New Sport and weather

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Speaker 2: on its way. Very good afternoon to.

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01:18:34,732 --> 01:18:40,213
Speaker 3: You, talking with you all afternoon.

1518
01:18:40,412 --> 01:18:44,253
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty

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01:18:44,293 --> 01:18:45,652
Speaker 1: four News Talk.

1520
01:18:45,532 --> 01:18:45,852
Speaker 18: Said, be.

1521
01:18:48,053 --> 01:18:51,372
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, seven past three, and it's been a good

1522
01:18:51,452 --> 01:18:53,893
Speaker 2: couple of hours about political chat on the back of

1523
01:18:53,893 --> 01:18:54,572
Speaker 2: the UIs election.

1524
01:18:54,853 --> 01:18:55,253
Speaker 5: That's right.

1525
01:18:55,293 --> 01:18:58,053
Speaker 4: But now we're going to pry ourselves away from the

1526
01:18:58,053 --> 01:19:01,173
Speaker 4: big shiny object that we all stayed up Well I did,

1527
01:19:01,213 --> 01:19:03,772
Speaker 4: you did sat up late watching last night and talk

1528
01:19:03,812 --> 01:19:08,052
Speaker 4: about something down to earth, well out at sea, something

1529
01:19:08,093 --> 01:19:09,852
Speaker 4: that you passionately care about.

1530
01:19:09,893 --> 01:19:10,213
Speaker 5: Tyler.

1531
01:19:10,253 --> 01:19:12,973
Speaker 2: I'm going to get so much abuse for this, and

1532
01:19:13,013 --> 01:19:14,973
Speaker 2: that's fine for it.

1533
01:19:15,053 --> 01:19:18,013
Speaker 5: You be you, Tyler, don't don't sense yourself because of

1534
01:19:18,133 --> 01:19:21,692
Speaker 5: the abuse that you're definitely in and the text machine

1535
01:19:21,732 --> 01:19:25,812
Speaker 5: and e eighty don't just because you're going to get crapped.

1536
01:19:25,893 --> 01:19:27,812
Speaker 2: I'm ready for it. You be you, I am ready

1537
01:19:27,853 --> 01:19:30,412
Speaker 2: for it. So we're going to talk about jet skis beautiful.

1538
01:19:29,973 --> 01:19:30,612
Speaker 5: Just the way you are.

1539
01:19:30,692 --> 01:19:33,372
Speaker 2: Thank yous. We're talking about jet skis.

1540
01:19:33,412 --> 01:19:33,532
Speaker 14: Now.

1541
01:19:33,572 --> 01:19:35,213
Speaker 2: I'll just set this up with why this is a

1542
01:19:35,253 --> 01:19:37,812
Speaker 2: topic today. So a group of residents say jet ski

1543
01:19:37,973 --> 01:19:41,812
Speaker 2: is on or Hiwa Harbor that's in the eastern Bay

1544
01:19:41,853 --> 01:19:44,612
Speaker 2: of Plenty. The jet skis will be arrisked to safety,

1545
01:19:44,772 --> 01:19:47,892
Speaker 2: a menace to wildlife and a bad fit for the

1546
01:19:47,933 --> 01:19:52,173
Speaker 2: culture in that particular harbor. So the residents have come

1547
01:19:52,213 --> 01:19:55,692
Speaker 2: out strongly against a new navigational safety by law both

1548
01:19:55,732 --> 01:19:57,572
Speaker 2: that are hearing earlier this year and more recently at

1549
01:19:57,612 --> 01:20:00,612
Speaker 2: a meeting with council stuff, and they say strongly that

1550
01:20:00,732 --> 01:20:04,692
Speaker 2: jet skis do not belong in this particular harbor. With

1551
01:20:04,853 --> 01:20:07,012
Speaker 2: eighty percent this is a direct quote, with eighty percent

1552
01:20:07,013 --> 01:20:09,093
Speaker 2: of the harbor being exposed at low tide, it is

1553
01:20:09,213 --> 01:20:11,372
Speaker 2: just not suitable for jet skis. Jet Skis are made

1554
01:20:11,372 --> 01:20:15,972
Speaker 2: for speeding, not tottering along at five knots. And when

1555
01:20:16,013 --> 01:20:17,893
Speaker 2: it comes to jet skis, I've got to say, and

1556
01:20:17,893 --> 01:20:20,333
Speaker 2: I've seen the ticks come through, they are serenity killers.

1557
01:20:21,452 --> 01:20:25,452
Speaker 2: And you're in a beautiful, quiet bay. And this happens

1558
01:20:25,452 --> 01:20:27,772
Speaker 2: to me every year. Maybe my partner who family is

1559
01:20:27,812 --> 01:20:30,692
Speaker 2: lucky enough to have a beautiful batch in the Molborough Sounds.

1560
01:20:30,532 --> 01:20:31,812
Speaker 2: It's a it's called Ocean Bay.

1561
01:20:31,973 --> 01:20:33,052
Speaker 5: Oh, Ocean Bay.

1562
01:20:33,093 --> 01:20:34,973
Speaker 4: That is one of the most beautiful spots, not just

1563
01:20:35,013 --> 01:20:37,492
Speaker 4: in New Zealand, but yeah, but in the entire world.

1564
01:20:37,692 --> 01:20:38,532
Speaker 2: Gorgeous, isn't it.

1565
01:20:38,612 --> 01:20:43,893
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, that area absolutely breathtakingly beautiful.

1566
01:20:43,652 --> 01:20:48,692
Speaker 2: Quiet, serene, beautiful. But then the jet skis come along

1567
01:20:48,732 --> 01:20:52,012
Speaker 2: every summer and you hear them coming from a mile away.

1568
01:20:52,213 --> 01:20:54,333
Speaker 2: It's like something got of mad Max. You just hear

1569
01:20:54,372 --> 01:20:59,652
Speaker 2: the h here they come take cover, and that just

1570
01:20:59,732 --> 01:21:03,493
Speaker 2: does my head. And and if they were decent, responsible

1571
01:21:03,572 --> 01:21:05,572
Speaker 2: jet skiers, I wouldn't have so much of a problem

1572
01:21:05,572 --> 01:21:08,012
Speaker 2: with that. But there's none of this going five knots

1573
01:21:08,053 --> 01:21:10,253
Speaker 2: with the two hundred meters of the beach, none of that.

1574
01:21:10,333 --> 01:21:12,692
Speaker 2: They get right up to it. Do dowies? Can you

1575
01:21:12,692 --> 01:21:14,612
Speaker 2: do dowies on jet ski? Suppose you can?

1576
01:21:14,732 --> 01:21:15,092
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1577
01:21:15,173 --> 01:21:17,012
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can do all kinds of things, all kinds

1578
01:21:17,053 --> 01:21:18,492
Speaker 4: of really fun stuff on a jet ski.

1579
01:21:18,893 --> 01:21:22,892
Speaker 2: So here's here's my take on it. Jet skis are okay,

1580
01:21:23,372 --> 01:21:25,932
Speaker 2: but they have to have dedicated bays where they are

1581
01:21:25,973 --> 01:21:29,133
Speaker 2: for jet skis only, and you can do what you

1582
01:21:29,173 --> 01:21:31,612
Speaker 2: want in that particular bay if there's no swimmers around,

1583
01:21:31,612 --> 01:21:34,333
Speaker 2: if there's no families around, But at any other beach,

1584
01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:36,692
Speaker 2: just be a bit more courteous.

1585
01:21:36,293 --> 01:21:38,052
Speaker 5: Buddy jet skis.

1586
01:21:38,572 --> 01:21:41,173
Speaker 4: Once again, this is what you always do, Tyler, love

1587
01:21:41,213 --> 01:21:43,213
Speaker 4: you to bits, but what you do is you don't

1588
01:21:43,293 --> 01:21:46,372
Speaker 4: like something, so you want to ban it. And just

1589
01:21:46,412 --> 01:21:49,372
Speaker 4: because some people behave badly and you told me the

1590
01:21:49,372 --> 01:21:49,932
Speaker 4: story off here.

1591
01:21:49,933 --> 01:21:51,812
Speaker 5: When you're out in a kayak and then some jet

1592
01:21:51,853 --> 01:21:53,892
Speaker 5: skis just circle you for a joke.

1593
01:21:53,973 --> 01:21:55,972
Speaker 2: They bullied me straight up.

1594
01:21:57,372 --> 01:22:00,852
Speaker 5: But this is once again the dickhead problem.

1595
01:22:01,053 --> 01:22:03,892
Speaker 4: Yeah, just because there's people that behave badly, you can't

1596
01:22:04,013 --> 01:22:09,732
Speaker 4: ban everything everyone that does that activity. People are keeping

1597
01:22:09,732 --> 01:22:12,852
Speaker 4: to five knots when they're within fifty meters of people, and.

1598
01:22:14,732 --> 01:22:17,053
Speaker 5: Then that's fine. It's just going.

1599
01:22:18,853 --> 01:22:20,412
Speaker 4: But you know, I spend a lot of time at

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01:22:20,452 --> 01:22:24,732
Speaker 4: beaches and up north at a batch and I see

1601
01:22:24,732 --> 01:22:27,892
Speaker 4: the jet skis zipping across the horizon. I go, boy,

1602
01:22:27,933 --> 01:22:30,333
Speaker 4: that looks like fun. And then later on that day

1603
01:22:30,412 --> 01:22:34,253
Speaker 4: I'm on the jet ski zipping across the horizon. I'm

1604
01:22:34,412 --> 01:22:37,852
Speaker 4: very considerate. I would never ever because I'm terrified of

1605
01:22:37,933 --> 01:22:42,572
Speaker 4: hitting a swimmerp so I would never ever speed anywhere

1606
01:22:42,572 --> 01:22:47,492
Speaker 4: near swimmers. And I am also considerate of the noise.

1607
01:22:47,532 --> 01:22:49,213
Speaker 4: I don't own a jit ski, but I know I

1608
01:22:49,253 --> 01:22:51,852
Speaker 4: have friends that own j ski and boy, boy, I'll

1609
01:22:51,853 --> 01:22:55,213
Speaker 4: tell you what, it is very fun and very fun

1610
01:22:55,253 --> 01:22:58,572
Speaker 4: for your kids. But like anything, I'm a considerate human being,

1611
01:22:58,853 --> 01:23:01,452
Speaker 4: so I'm not going to be zipping around and making

1612
01:23:01,452 --> 01:23:04,932
Speaker 4: it miserable for people. But the idea that because some

1613
01:23:05,013 --> 01:23:07,652
Speaker 4: people are badly behaved, we have to get rid of

1614
01:23:07,652 --> 01:23:11,733
Speaker 4: the whole thing in some kind of jet ski apartheid

1615
01:23:11,732 --> 01:23:13,492
Speaker 4: where only people have to go to this bay and

1616
01:23:13,532 --> 01:23:13,932
Speaker 4: that bay.

1617
01:23:13,973 --> 01:23:14,532
Speaker 5: I'm not for it.

1618
01:23:14,933 --> 01:23:17,572
Speaker 2: What about five hundred meters away from the beach, Surely

1619
01:23:17,612 --> 01:23:19,333
Speaker 2: you can't have a problem with that. The ocean.

1620
01:23:21,133 --> 01:23:23,812
Speaker 5: To stop people from launching the course.

1621
01:23:23,612 --> 01:23:25,892
Speaker 2: They can launch, but if they want to hone, they've

1622
01:23:25,933 --> 01:23:27,652
Speaker 2: got to go out five hundred meters And I know

1623
01:23:27,812 --> 01:23:30,333
Speaker 2: there are some laws that exist around that. But you

1624
01:23:30,372 --> 01:23:32,692
Speaker 2: mentioned the dickhead ratio, and to me, it's all about

1625
01:23:32,692 --> 01:23:36,053
Speaker 2: the dickhead ratio. I would argue the dickhead ratio is

1626
01:23:36,532 --> 01:23:39,333
Speaker 2: higher for jet ski users than it is for boat users.

1627
01:23:39,412 --> 01:23:41,053
Speaker 5: I would probably agree with you in that one.

1628
01:23:41,173 --> 01:23:44,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you're you're a reasonable, courteous human being

1629
01:23:44,532 --> 01:23:46,412
Speaker 2: and you're a good man, so you're a good jit skier.

1630
01:23:46,452 --> 01:23:48,572
Speaker 2: And friends of mine have jit skis and they jit ski,

1631
01:23:48,853 --> 01:23:50,093
Speaker 2: but they're not the kids about it.

1632
01:23:50,452 --> 01:23:50,692
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1633
01:23:50,732 --> 01:23:53,333
Speaker 4: Well, but I also throw the elitist thing back at

1634
01:23:53,372 --> 01:23:57,293
Speaker 4: you as well, because not everyone can afford a big,

1635
01:23:57,333 --> 01:24:00,492
Speaker 4: beautiful launch that they go out in, and the jit

1636
01:24:00,612 --> 01:24:05,133
Speaker 4: ski opens up the fantastic bays and harbors to people

1637
01:24:05,213 --> 01:24:06,972
Speaker 4: that don't have a whole lot.

1638
01:24:06,812 --> 01:24:09,732
Speaker 2: Heap of money exactly have those, but ones where people

1639
01:24:09,812 --> 01:24:12,013
Speaker 2: swim and kids are on the beach, well some of

1640
01:24:12,053 --> 01:24:14,173
Speaker 2: them jet ski base. I mean, no problem with it,

1641
01:24:14,213 --> 01:24:14,852
Speaker 2: Just give them a bay.

1642
01:24:14,933 --> 01:24:17,772
Speaker 4: Jet Skis are controlled by the same rules at all

1643
01:24:17,812 --> 01:24:21,612
Speaker 4: power driven vessels are the speed, right of way, noise

1644
01:24:21,732 --> 01:24:25,173
Speaker 4: keeping distance, all those all those rules applied to jet

1645
01:24:25,173 --> 01:24:28,053
Speaker 4: skis just as they do to any other any other

1646
01:24:28,173 --> 01:24:30,492
Speaker 4: vessel that's out on the water. I mean, it might

1647
01:24:30,612 --> 01:24:32,892
Speaker 4: just be even though they're not that new, we're talking

1648
01:24:32,933 --> 01:24:35,013
Speaker 4: twenty or so years they've been about. Is it just

1649
01:24:35,053 --> 01:24:37,652
Speaker 4: that it's the shining new thing, you know, the new

1650
01:24:37,692 --> 01:24:39,892
Speaker 4: thing that comes out. Everyone wants a band because they

1651
01:24:39,893 --> 01:24:41,412
Speaker 4: look at it and go, that's annoying. That didn't used

1652
01:24:41,452 --> 01:24:42,492
Speaker 4: to be there when I was a cat.

1653
01:24:42,652 --> 01:24:42,852
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1654
01:24:42,893 --> 01:24:46,333
Speaker 2: Well, what about this specific situation the good people at

1655
01:24:46,692 --> 01:24:49,612
Speaker 2: or he Were Harbor. When they say that eighty percent

1656
01:24:49,652 --> 01:24:51,652
Speaker 2: of the harbor has been exposed to a low tide,

1657
01:24:51,692 --> 01:24:54,372
Speaker 2: there is wildlife there that is at risk of the

1658
01:24:54,452 --> 01:24:56,372
Speaker 2: jet skis, do they make a fair point that for

1659
01:24:56,452 --> 01:24:59,932
Speaker 2: that particular harbor, jet skis might not be a good idea.

1660
01:25:00,692 --> 01:25:03,213
Speaker 5: I don't know that harbor, so I don't know.

1661
01:25:03,612 --> 01:25:06,532
Speaker 4: But what kind of wildlife can't handle a jeki at

1662
01:25:06,572 --> 01:25:08,213
Speaker 4: five five knots dot ors.

1663
01:25:08,933 --> 01:25:11,412
Speaker 2: Again, it goes back to the titles. You've got your problems.

1664
01:25:12,093 --> 01:25:13,972
Speaker 5: I don't like dotals. I have no time for dotterals.

1665
01:25:14,013 --> 01:25:16,333
Speaker 4: I'll protect a lot of wildlife, but I don't like

1666
01:25:16,333 --> 01:25:18,492
Speaker 4: a dottoral, and I won't protect a dottoral.

1667
01:25:18,732 --> 01:25:20,772
Speaker 2: Good ticks here, Matt. What is louder a jit ski

1668
01:25:20,893 --> 01:25:24,293
Speaker 2: or Tyler's whiny Craig? I don't know. I an whine

1669
01:25:24,333 --> 01:25:27,652
Speaker 2: pretty loud of Craig. Eight hundreds ten eighty is and

1670
01:25:27,692 --> 01:25:29,532
Speaker 2: other to call? Nineteen nine two is the Dick's number.

1671
01:25:29,532 --> 01:25:32,572
Speaker 2: It's thirteen pasts three. What do you feel about jit skis?

1672
01:25:34,893 --> 01:25:38,293
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you? It is sixteen pass three.

1673
01:25:38,772 --> 01:25:43,412
Speaker 2: Listen to that sounds doesn't that? Just scream serenity? It's beautiful,

1674
01:25:43,412 --> 01:25:44,333
Speaker 2: and I stay at the beach.

1675
01:25:44,492 --> 01:25:46,372
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of Texas are pointing out Tyler.

1676
01:25:46,412 --> 01:25:48,852
Speaker 5: You're talking about the old jit skis, the one that

1677
01:25:48,933 --> 01:25:50,293
Speaker 5: John Bank's got in trouble.

1678
01:25:50,013 --> 01:25:51,892
Speaker 4: For for zipping up and down on the north shore.

1679
01:25:52,173 --> 01:25:54,652
Speaker 4: That's what you're talking about. He was speeding around. The

1680
01:25:54,652 --> 01:25:56,732
Speaker 4: old jit Skis used to be really really noisy. But

1681
01:25:56,893 --> 01:26:00,852
Speaker 4: as with everything, as they have been around for a while.

1682
01:26:00,893 --> 01:26:04,492
Speaker 4: Technology has got better and jit skis are quite quiet now.

1683
01:26:04,572 --> 01:26:06,253
Speaker 2: They kind of sound like that though, don't they, Even

1684
01:26:06,293 --> 01:26:07,692
Speaker 2: the new fan dangle modern ones.

1685
01:26:08,372 --> 01:26:10,972
Speaker 4: That sounds like someone doing some extreme jet skiing there

1686
01:26:10,973 --> 01:26:12,012
Speaker 4: doing jumps and such.

1687
01:26:12,293 --> 01:26:14,652
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1688
01:26:14,732 --> 01:26:16,892
Speaker 2: number to call. How do you feel about jet skis?

1689
01:26:16,973 --> 01:26:20,053
Speaker 2: There's a problem in the eastern Bay of Plenty. A

1690
01:26:20,093 --> 01:26:22,933
Speaker 2: group of locals don't want jet skis at or he

1691
01:26:23,093 --> 01:26:26,333
Speaker 2: were harbor anymore. They say it's a danger to beach goers,

1692
01:26:26,333 --> 01:26:28,612
Speaker 2: it's a danger to wildlife. Do we need some more

1693
01:26:28,692 --> 01:26:31,692
Speaker 2: rules around jet ski use? What do you say if

1694
01:26:31,692 --> 01:26:33,173
Speaker 2: you are a jet ski own? I love to hear

1695
01:26:33,173 --> 01:26:35,013
Speaker 2: from you. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty get

1696
01:26:35,013 --> 01:26:35,732
Speaker 2: a patrina.

1697
01:26:37,013 --> 01:26:39,812
Speaker 21: Hi, I'm not a jet you no, I'm a boat though.

1698
01:26:39,893 --> 01:26:42,772
Speaker 21: But we used to go will we still go up

1699
01:26:42,812 --> 01:26:46,173
Speaker 21: to Pookahenas, which is just out of south of Tarino, yep.

1700
01:26:46,652 --> 01:26:49,852
Speaker 21: And there's a big history there and he hasn't been

1701
01:26:49,893 --> 01:26:51,732
Speaker 21: there for the last couple of years, but he used

1702
01:26:51,772 --> 01:26:54,412
Speaker 21: to come up. There was a policeman would be out

1703
01:26:54,452 --> 01:26:55,973
Speaker 21: on a police jets.

1704
01:26:56,293 --> 01:26:59,213
Speaker 20: Oh wow, it was brilliant with something.

1705
01:26:59,933 --> 01:27:02,692
Speaker 21: Everyone's out over the bar out in the ocean and

1706
01:27:02,732 --> 01:27:05,293
Speaker 21: they're having a ball on the jet skis that's coming

1707
01:27:05,372 --> 01:27:07,973
Speaker 21: over the bar. The best thing that's watching them that

1708
01:27:08,133 --> 01:27:10,453
Speaker 21: come holding in like not doing.

1709
01:27:10,213 --> 01:27:15,092
Speaker 9: The He could hear the siren of the police coming

1710
01:27:15,093 --> 01:27:16,932
Speaker 9: along and everyone wants.

1711
01:27:16,812 --> 01:27:21,572
Speaker 2: Here get behind that policeman on a jit Ski going

1712
01:27:21,612 --> 01:27:23,372
Speaker 2: after the Dicky j I.

1713
01:27:23,253 --> 01:27:26,412
Speaker 5: Love that And what a great detail to have to

1714
01:27:26,492 --> 01:27:29,293
Speaker 5: be the jit Ski cops. That would be boy, oh boy,

1715
01:27:29,412 --> 01:27:30,892
Speaker 5: that would be the one you want you put your

1716
01:27:30,933 --> 01:27:31,372
Speaker 5: hand up for.

1717
01:27:31,572 --> 01:27:32,732
Speaker 2: Did he have flashing lights?

1718
01:27:33,732 --> 01:27:33,932
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1719
01:27:34,013 --> 01:27:34,293
Speaker 18: He did.

1720
01:27:34,372 --> 01:27:36,732
Speaker 21: He had a piece up the back and like a

1721
01:27:36,772 --> 01:27:39,333
Speaker 21: blue light that would go around he was. He had

1722
01:27:39,333 --> 01:27:42,813
Speaker 21: a life jacket that had police and everything. You couldn't mistatum.

1723
01:27:43,133 --> 01:27:47,692
Speaker 4: Did he call did he ever call jit Ski policeman uniform?

1724
01:27:48,093 --> 01:27:48,812
Speaker 21: He could have did?

1725
01:27:48,893 --> 01:27:50,293
Speaker 10: Like the j Ski was it?

1726
01:27:50,772 --> 01:27:55,452
Speaker 21: Because then it was blue lights? It was it told

1727
01:27:56,013 --> 01:27:56,692
Speaker 21: the whole thing.

1728
01:27:56,772 --> 01:27:57,652
Speaker 7: It was brilliant.

1729
01:27:58,013 --> 01:28:02,732
Speaker 4: That's the best thing over here. I love the idea

1730
01:28:02,772 --> 01:28:05,772
Speaker 4: of jit Ski cops. More jet Ski cops on the beat.

1731
01:28:05,853 --> 01:28:09,253
Speaker 2: I can endure that. Thank you very much, Patrina Michael,

1732
01:28:09,293 --> 01:28:09,732
Speaker 2: how are you?

1733
01:28:10,692 --> 01:28:11,532
Speaker 17: Oh good? Thanks?

1734
01:28:11,572 --> 01:28:15,013
Speaker 23: Guys, Look I'm probably about's become deeply unpopular and they

1735
01:28:15,053 --> 01:28:20,692
Speaker 23: need to leave New Zealand. We actually need boat licenses here.

1736
01:28:20,772 --> 01:28:23,692
Speaker 23: It's not just jetsks that are the problems. I've written

1737
01:28:23,732 --> 01:28:27,293
Speaker 23: Jetsk for thirty years, I've raised them. I've got my

1738
01:28:27,372 --> 01:28:30,852
Speaker 23: Jetsk license in Sydney, and the process in Sydney, I

1739
01:28:30,853 --> 01:28:34,253
Speaker 23: think is actually a really good example. There are certain

1740
01:28:34,253 --> 01:28:37,652
Speaker 23: spots you can't take jet skis and unfortunately, like for example,

1741
01:28:37,652 --> 01:28:39,692
Speaker 23: Sydney Harvey you can't take a jet ski anymore, but

1742
01:28:39,732 --> 01:28:42,652
Speaker 23: you can go into Botany Bay. Yeah, and what it

1743
01:28:42,772 --> 01:28:45,173
Speaker 23: does it kind of isolates it. Now, Look the reason

1744
01:28:45,213 --> 01:28:47,293
Speaker 23: that happened is there's lots of yachts. You've got fairies,

1745
01:28:47,333 --> 01:28:50,412
Speaker 23: and unfortunately it's the classic the minorities spoil it for

1746
01:28:50,492 --> 01:28:54,572
Speaker 23: the majority. But look the benefit of having a license

1747
01:28:54,652 --> 01:28:57,692
Speaker 23: is I can't say I use Maritai Beach quite a bit.

1748
01:28:58,293 --> 01:29:01,612
Speaker 23: And look, you know it's the idiots, typically the young.

1749
01:29:03,053 --> 01:29:05,532
Speaker 23: You can go and buy these things and look they're

1750
01:29:05,572 --> 01:29:07,732
Speaker 23: not that expensive. But you've got something that can go

1751
01:29:07,893 --> 01:29:11,253
Speaker 23: zero to hundred and five seconds and you know it

1752
01:29:11,293 --> 01:29:13,333
Speaker 23: can do one hundred k and hour and if you

1753
01:29:13,372 --> 01:29:15,012
Speaker 23: don't know how to use it, I mean again, would

1754
01:29:15,053 --> 01:29:16,772
Speaker 23: you put someone in a car that could do that?

1755
01:29:16,853 --> 01:29:20,333
Speaker 23: The answers, of course you wouldn't. So that's what we're

1756
01:29:20,372 --> 01:29:23,372
Speaker 23: kind of doing. We're putting I hate say, kids, you

1757
01:29:23,772 --> 01:29:26,972
Speaker 23: can jump on a jet ski by yourself at sixteen,

1758
01:29:28,053 --> 01:29:29,812
Speaker 23: and it'd be like putting someone in a ferrari.

1759
01:29:30,253 --> 01:29:32,652
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I got to say, Michael, you know, I've

1760
01:29:32,692 --> 01:29:34,532
Speaker 4: played around on friends jet ski is quite a bit

1761
01:29:34,652 --> 01:29:38,213
Speaker 4: and I am blowing by the speed that a jit

1762
01:29:38,293 --> 01:29:41,612
Speaker 4: ski can go, Like I've been terrified by how fast

1763
01:29:41,652 --> 01:29:42,572
Speaker 4: I've gone on a j ski.

1764
01:29:44,093 --> 01:29:46,492
Speaker 23: Yeah, And so look, the benefit of licensing is it

1765
01:29:46,572 --> 01:29:49,293
Speaker 23: makes you appreciate the rules down. Look, you've got to

1766
01:29:49,293 --> 01:29:51,412
Speaker 23: have an enforcement aspect to it as well. You can't

1767
01:29:51,452 --> 01:29:53,492
Speaker 23: stop I mean, let's face it, you don't stop people

1768
01:29:53,532 --> 01:29:56,412
Speaker 23: being idiots on roads. But what it does is it

1769
01:29:56,412 --> 01:29:58,972
Speaker 23: creates a barrier to stop that yahoo effects. And more

1770
01:29:59,013 --> 01:30:03,212
Speaker 23: importantly is the owner of the jet ski. In Australia,

1771
01:30:03,253 --> 01:30:05,293
Speaker 23: for example, you get fined if you put someone on

1772
01:30:05,333 --> 01:30:09,173
Speaker 23: your jet ski that's not licensed, right, both parties. It's

1773
01:30:09,253 --> 01:30:11,853
Speaker 23: the owner of the jet skis, but it's also the idiot.

1774
01:30:11,532 --> 01:30:12,173
Speaker 20: On the jet ski.

1775
01:30:12,372 --> 01:30:14,372
Speaker 4: And when you talk about a license, are you talking

1776
01:30:14,492 --> 01:30:17,532
Speaker 4: about a license for the jet ski or a license

1777
01:30:17,732 --> 01:30:18,772
Speaker 4: for the rider.

1778
01:30:20,093 --> 01:30:22,772
Speaker 23: It's actually so okay. So again I'm going to use

1779
01:30:23,093 --> 01:30:25,213
Speaker 23: the New South Wales example because I think that's probably

1780
01:30:25,213 --> 01:30:27,253
Speaker 23: the best one. So what happens in New South Wales

1781
01:30:27,372 --> 01:30:29,692
Speaker 23: is you go and do your boat license, so everyone

1782
01:30:29,692 --> 01:30:31,932
Speaker 23: who goes on the water that's in charge of editing

1783
01:30:32,013 --> 01:30:34,372
Speaker 23: over I think five kilometers. Now you've got to have

1784
01:30:34,412 --> 01:30:37,852
Speaker 23: a boat license. But if you then want to ride

1785
01:30:37,853 --> 01:30:39,732
Speaker 23: a jet ski, you've actually got to go into an

1786
01:30:39,772 --> 01:30:43,412
Speaker 23: actual jet ski course which normally straight after your boat license,

1787
01:30:43,973 --> 01:30:45,652
Speaker 23: and they're teaching you things like you know, a lot

1788
01:30:45,652 --> 01:30:47,852
Speaker 23: of the jet skis don't have breaks on them, for example,

1789
01:30:47,973 --> 01:30:50,932
Speaker 23: So it's where you get to use your own jet ski,

1790
01:30:51,013 --> 01:30:52,973
Speaker 23: but it's under supervision, and then they give you a

1791
01:30:53,013 --> 01:30:53,932
Speaker 23: jet ski license.

1792
01:30:55,452 --> 01:30:57,892
Speaker 4: If you rent a jet ski in New Zealand, I've

1793
01:30:57,933 --> 01:31:00,932
Speaker 4: never done it before. They because you can just rent

1794
01:31:00,933 --> 01:31:04,412
Speaker 4: them at beaches and stuff. Yeh, do they give you

1795
01:31:04,853 --> 01:31:07,253
Speaker 4: a do they? They don't have any liability for the

1796
01:31:07,253 --> 01:31:08,892
Speaker 4: way people behave on them.

1797
01:31:09,333 --> 01:31:11,452
Speaker 5: Is that what you're saying, Well.

1798
01:31:11,333 --> 01:31:16,772
Speaker 23: Because of acc there is no liability directly on provide.

1799
01:31:16,853 --> 01:31:17,972
Speaker 5: Now look course to the people.

1800
01:31:18,053 --> 01:31:20,372
Speaker 23: I know a few of the guys renting jet skis, Yeah,

1801
01:31:20,452 --> 01:31:22,812
Speaker 23: and looks really good. They'll give you instruction, but they

1802
01:31:22,853 --> 01:31:26,652
Speaker 23: can't stop you being an idiot. Whereas again in Sydney,

1803
01:31:26,652 --> 01:31:28,492
Speaker 23: if you want to hire a jet ski you've got

1804
01:31:28,492 --> 01:31:30,052
Speaker 23: to you've got to have a jet ski license.

1805
01:31:30,253 --> 01:31:32,052
Speaker 2: Yeah. And how long have they had that in place

1806
01:31:32,053 --> 01:31:33,612
Speaker 2: for in Australia.

1807
01:31:33,893 --> 01:31:36,852
Speaker 23: Ah, Look, I got mine before COVID, so it's got

1808
01:31:36,853 --> 01:31:37,892
Speaker 23: to be at least ten years.

1809
01:31:37,933 --> 01:31:38,452
Speaker 27: I would say.

1810
01:31:38,692 --> 01:31:40,612
Speaker 2: Was it controversial when it got broadened?

1811
01:31:41,532 --> 01:31:45,852
Speaker 23: Ah, looked like everything it's controversial. But the thing is

1812
01:31:45,893 --> 01:31:49,892
Speaker 23: that it's stopped that Yahoo effect. And at the end

1813
01:31:49,893 --> 01:31:52,892
Speaker 23: of the day, look, people, if you don't know what

1814
01:31:52,933 --> 01:31:54,813
Speaker 23: you're doing on these things, a bit like a motorbike,

1815
01:31:54,933 --> 01:31:58,333
Speaker 23: you will probably unfortunate. Jet ski you will probably be okay,

1816
01:31:58,372 --> 01:32:01,492
Speaker 23: but you'll probably kill someone else. Yeah, and I mean

1817
01:32:01,532 --> 01:32:05,333
Speaker 23: we're talking about swimmers and water people being towed behind,

1818
01:32:05,812 --> 01:32:07,732
Speaker 23: because again you can just jump on the jet ski

1819
01:32:07,812 --> 01:32:10,452
Speaker 23: without knowing any of the voting rules, for example, under

1820
01:32:10,452 --> 01:32:13,692
Speaker 23: five nots within two hundred meters. And so I'll give

1821
01:32:13,692 --> 01:32:16,052
Speaker 23: you exact if you go down to Mariati Beach probably

1822
01:32:16,053 --> 01:32:18,772
Speaker 23: now because it's the next day, you will find guys

1823
01:32:18,812 --> 01:32:23,652
Speaker 23: doing one hundred and ten k an hour right next

1824
01:32:23,692 --> 01:32:26,053
Speaker 23: to swimmers within fifty meters of the beach, and it's

1825
01:32:26,053 --> 01:32:28,652
Speaker 23: a recipe of the disaster. I'm genuinely surprised we have

1826
01:32:28,772 --> 01:32:30,173
Speaker 23: had more fatalities in New Zealand.

1827
01:32:30,412 --> 01:32:32,892
Speaker 4: And so with a license, what does it take to

1828
01:32:32,933 --> 01:32:35,692
Speaker 4: sit the license? Is it to say you go out

1829
01:32:35,692 --> 01:32:37,412
Speaker 4: for a practical test in the license?

1830
01:32:38,412 --> 01:32:41,572
Speaker 23: Yeah, so the boat course again i'll use you South Wales.

1831
01:32:41,612 --> 01:32:43,452
Speaker 23: So you've got to do a theoretical and I think

1832
01:32:43,452 --> 01:32:46,532
Speaker 23: you can only get like four or five wrongs. So

1833
01:32:46,572 --> 01:32:48,972
Speaker 23: again it's a bit like doing your l plates, which

1834
01:32:49,053 --> 01:32:51,213
Speaker 23: my dad has just done. But then they also do

1835
01:32:51,253 --> 01:32:53,612
Speaker 23: a practical where again you're out in a boat with

1836
01:32:53,692 --> 01:32:55,973
Speaker 23: an instructor and there's normally a group of you and

1837
01:32:56,013 --> 01:32:59,052
Speaker 23: they're testing you going through like it's a practical as well.

1838
01:32:59,692 --> 01:33:01,133
Speaker 23: Then if you want to then go and do your

1839
01:33:01,213 --> 01:33:03,772
Speaker 23: jet ski part, then it's another probably hour and a

1840
01:33:03,812 --> 01:33:07,812
Speaker 23: half and this is where again you're actually on a

1841
01:33:07,893 --> 01:33:10,213
Speaker 23: jet skin. They're showing you different things how to do

1842
01:33:10,293 --> 01:33:13,213
Speaker 23: certain things. Again, I think it's actually a really good

1843
01:33:13,213 --> 01:33:14,053
Speaker 23: way to approach it.

1844
01:33:14,133 --> 01:33:15,892
Speaker 4: But if you did that with jet skis in New Zealand.

1845
01:33:15,933 --> 01:33:17,852
Speaker 4: Then you'd have to do that with boats as well,

1846
01:33:18,253 --> 01:33:20,893
Speaker 4: and that would be pretty limiting, wouldn't it for people.

1847
01:33:20,692 --> 01:33:22,772
Speaker 2: Like I think they do that in Aussie with boats

1848
01:33:22,772 --> 01:33:25,973
Speaker 2: as well, don't they, Michael, Yeah, they do so.

1849
01:33:26,452 --> 01:33:29,572
Speaker 23: Victoria and New South Wales in Queensland definitely have it.

1850
01:33:29,973 --> 01:33:31,933
Speaker 23: I don't know about the other states, but that's what

1851
01:33:31,973 --> 01:33:34,372
Speaker 23: I'm saying here, that you'd be crazy not to do,

1852
01:33:34,572 --> 01:33:39,133
Speaker 23: like your entry course, which is a boat master here. Yeah.

1853
01:33:39,173 --> 01:33:42,492
Speaker 23: But again the reason I say having licensing here is

1854
01:33:42,532 --> 01:33:46,652
Speaker 23: because again I've often been on heading out towaihiki, you've

1855
01:33:46,652 --> 01:33:49,093
Speaker 23: got some boat coming out at you from Starvard not

1856
01:33:49,133 --> 01:33:51,532
Speaker 23: giving you, you know, in your you're not they're not

1857
01:33:51,532 --> 01:33:54,572
Speaker 23: giving you right up money, which of course they're so.

1858
01:33:54,572 --> 01:33:57,412
Speaker 23: I mean like, the boaties, with all due respect, are

1859
01:33:57,492 --> 01:34:00,333
Speaker 23: not much better than the yahoo's on jet skee's. Now,

1860
01:34:00,412 --> 01:34:02,892
Speaker 23: unfortunately jet skis you tend to see and notice more

1861
01:34:02,973 --> 01:34:05,213
Speaker 23: than bonies. But there's a lot of boaties out there

1862
01:34:05,253 --> 01:34:06,293
Speaker 23: that don't know the rules.

1863
01:34:06,372 --> 01:34:07,932
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's definitely true.

1864
01:34:08,013 --> 01:34:10,972
Speaker 2: Good all, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I thought

1865
01:34:11,093 --> 01:34:14,413
Speaker 2: that sounds pretty logical. How would you feel about mandating

1866
01:34:14,492 --> 01:34:17,612
Speaker 2: licenses for not just jet skis, but boat users as

1867
01:34:17,612 --> 01:34:20,133
Speaker 2: well as Michael said against it.

1868
01:34:20,372 --> 01:34:23,972
Speaker 4: Why, I just think that the I can totally see

1869
01:34:23,973 --> 01:34:26,652
Speaker 4: the point of it, but I just think getting out

1870
01:34:26,692 --> 01:34:28,732
Speaker 4: of the water is a really beautiful thing and it's

1871
01:34:28,933 --> 01:34:32,532
Speaker 4: something that kiwi's is very important to us. And I

1872
01:34:32,572 --> 01:34:37,293
Speaker 4: just think you would then start licensing boati's and that

1873
01:34:37,372 --> 01:34:40,572
Speaker 4: really limits who can get out on a boat, because

1874
01:34:40,612 --> 01:34:42,612
Speaker 4: you might only be going out on a boat, and

1875
01:34:42,652 --> 01:34:45,092
Speaker 4: you might be very sensible, but you're only on holiday

1876
01:34:45,133 --> 01:34:47,532
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks a year, so you're just out

1877
01:34:47,572 --> 01:34:51,013
Speaker 4: and about and going out for a little fish innocently,

1878
01:34:51,293 --> 01:34:53,572
Speaker 4: and you need to get a license to do it.

1879
01:34:53,612 --> 01:34:54,892
Speaker 4: That seems too much to me.

1880
01:34:54,893 --> 01:34:57,612
Speaker 2: But maybe not a practical Most boat owners I know

1881
01:34:57,732 --> 01:35:00,213
Speaker 2: have gone through the day Skipper's course, and from memory,

1882
01:35:00,253 --> 01:35:01,933
Speaker 2: if someone's done it recently, loved to hear from you

1883
01:35:01,973 --> 01:35:03,732
Speaker 2: on oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I believe

1884
01:35:03,732 --> 01:35:05,492
Speaker 2: it's only a couple of hours that you go down,

1885
01:35:05,772 --> 01:35:07,532
Speaker 2: you answer questions to make sure you know how to

1886
01:35:07,612 --> 01:35:09,732
Speaker 2: operate a boat, know the rules, and boom you get

1887
01:35:09,732 --> 01:35:11,973
Speaker 2: your license. But can you hear from you? Nine two

1888
01:35:12,093 --> 01:35:22,093
Speaker 2: nine two is the text number. It's twenty six past three.

1889
01:35:19,492 --> 01:35:22,852
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1890
01:35:22,933 --> 01:35:26,333
Speaker 1: eighty eighty on Youth Talk zby Good afternoon.

1891
01:35:25,973 --> 01:35:31,013
Speaker 33: Chris, Get on, man, it's not so much rules and so.

1892
01:35:31,372 --> 01:35:33,933
Speaker 33: But I just wanted to mention that the one and

1893
01:35:34,053 --> 01:35:39,452
Speaker 33: only time I went on a jet ski, I burnt myself,

1894
01:35:39,532 --> 01:35:41,252
Speaker 33: the worst I've ever burnt myself.

1895
01:35:41,652 --> 01:35:44,492
Speaker 7: It was funny. It was we were in fig and

1896
01:35:44,532 --> 01:35:46,213
Speaker 7: we thought, oh, let's get a jet ski and it

1897
01:35:46,253 --> 01:35:47,892
Speaker 7: was one of those ones where you sit on and

1898
01:35:47,933 --> 01:35:49,692
Speaker 7: it has like sells on the side of it. Will

1899
01:35:49,732 --> 01:35:54,612
Speaker 7: you put your feet right? And well, I didn't realize

1900
01:35:54,732 --> 01:35:57,372
Speaker 7: was that there was a pool of water on each

1901
01:35:57,412 --> 01:36:01,932
Speaker 7: of the sells. And we went to different islands and

1902
01:36:02,013 --> 01:36:05,253
Speaker 7: the sun was always on the left hand side and

1903
01:36:05,692 --> 01:36:08,492
Speaker 7: that was fine, and then it was one of the

1904
01:36:08,532 --> 01:36:11,612
Speaker 7: hottest stays in the area at the time. And then

1905
01:36:11,853 --> 01:36:14,412
Speaker 7: on my back the sun was on the right hand's side,

1906
01:36:14,532 --> 01:36:18,812
Speaker 7: which meant that it was the same foot and I

1907
01:36:18,853 --> 01:36:21,293
Speaker 7: got my foot hurt at that worked out in the

1908
01:36:21,333 --> 01:36:25,092
Speaker 7: morning and my foot had swollen into about six times

1909
01:36:25,093 --> 01:36:29,253
Speaker 7: a size because the water had magnified. The sun oh cheaper,

1910
01:36:30,253 --> 01:36:31,492
Speaker 7: and I couldn't even walk.

1911
01:36:31,772 --> 01:36:32,493
Speaker 13: The whole.

1912
01:36:33,812 --> 01:36:36,612
Speaker 34: The whole holiday was wasted basically because I couldn't walk

1913
01:36:36,612 --> 01:36:40,732
Speaker 34: for two days and the whole top end of my

1914
01:36:40,893 --> 01:36:45,412
Speaker 34: skin on my left foot just basically came off.

1915
01:36:45,612 --> 01:36:51,053
Speaker 4: Horrible, So that that's an interesting jit ski.

1916
01:36:50,772 --> 01:36:52,612
Speaker 7: And then I had to go to a hospital and

1917
01:36:52,732 --> 01:36:54,892
Speaker 7: TG just to try and work. I had to deal

1918
01:36:54,893 --> 01:36:57,173
Speaker 7: with it because it was hurting. I couldn't so I

1919
01:36:57,173 --> 01:37:01,852
Speaker 7: couldn't walk. It was very vaiful, and the hospital just said, well,

1920
01:37:02,973 --> 01:37:04,133
Speaker 7: there's not much we can do with it.

1921
01:37:05,492 --> 01:37:08,812
Speaker 2: Cream clearly.

1922
01:37:08,933 --> 01:37:09,492
Speaker 5: I once was.

1923
01:37:09,492 --> 01:37:11,972
Speaker 4: I was on a cruise ship and I fell asleep

1924
01:37:12,013 --> 01:37:15,852
Speaker 4: on the deck and my ankles got so sunburned that

1925
01:37:15,893 --> 01:37:18,373
Speaker 4: they swelled up to the point that I had cankeles

1926
01:37:19,333 --> 01:37:20,132
Speaker 4: and I had.

1927
01:37:19,973 --> 01:37:22,333
Speaker 5: To get this is humilidding story this year, actually.

1928
01:37:22,133 --> 01:37:24,293
Speaker 2: But this is on a Sunbard though, wasn't It was

1929
01:37:24,333 --> 01:37:26,772
Speaker 2: this on a Sunbard on a cruise ship. Yeah, yeah,

1930
01:37:26,812 --> 01:37:29,293
Speaker 2: but you're on the sun beard and the pool area

1931
01:37:29,333 --> 01:37:30,892
Speaker 2: of the cruise ship sun deck, sun deck.

1932
01:37:30,973 --> 01:37:31,253
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1933
01:37:31,253 --> 01:37:34,293
Speaker 4: It wasn't in a sun bed no. No, yeah, yeah,

1934
01:37:34,333 --> 01:37:35,372
Speaker 4: I see we're saying no, yeah.

1935
01:37:35,372 --> 01:37:35,412
Speaker 31: No.

1936
01:37:35,452 --> 01:37:38,053
Speaker 4: I was just lying by the pool there and on

1937
01:37:38,093 --> 01:37:40,292
Speaker 4: the on the deck and got such a terrible sunburn

1938
01:37:40,652 --> 01:37:45,613
Speaker 4: cankles and had to be wheeled around a wheelchair. That's humiliating.

1939
01:37:45,973 --> 01:37:51,012
Speaker 4: They my ankles got bigger than my thighs. I didn't

1940
01:37:51,013 --> 01:37:53,652
Speaker 4: even know that could happen from sunburn, that that your

1941
01:37:53,732 --> 01:37:58,133
Speaker 4: ankles could swell up, and that was It was humiliating

1942
01:37:58,173 --> 01:37:59,692
Speaker 4: because people were saying, what happened?

1943
01:38:00,093 --> 01:38:03,732
Speaker 5: Why? Why are you in this wheelchair? And it was sunburn?

1944
01:38:03,893 --> 01:38:07,452
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing candles storry cankles on the cruise ship.

1945
01:38:07,612 --> 01:38:10,613
Speaker 2: I had hundred eighty. Now before we get to the headlines,

1946
01:38:11,133 --> 01:38:12,452
Speaker 2: you got a wee teas.

1947
01:38:12,933 --> 01:38:15,612
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I've got a question for you. Yeah, how

1948
01:38:15,692 --> 01:38:18,933
Speaker 5: big do you think the global jet ski market is?

1949
01:38:19,772 --> 01:38:22,853
Speaker 5: Billions and dollars? Well? Is it billions?

1950
01:38:22,853 --> 01:38:23,652
Speaker 2: Definitely billions?

1951
01:38:24,053 --> 01:38:25,132
Speaker 5: You think it's definitely billions?

1952
01:38:25,213 --> 01:38:25,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, worldwide?

1953
01:38:26,013 --> 01:38:28,333
Speaker 5: Yeah, easy, entire jet ski market.

1954
01:38:28,452 --> 01:38:30,452
Speaker 4: You know, you may be thinking a higher number because

1955
01:38:30,452 --> 01:38:32,772
Speaker 4: we live in a very in a country with a

1956
01:38:32,772 --> 01:38:36,092
Speaker 4: lot of coast and we're a very sea going country.

1957
01:38:36,452 --> 01:38:38,013
Speaker 4: But yeah, what do you think it is? Nine two

1958
01:38:38,133 --> 01:38:41,412
Speaker 4: nine two the total total value of the jet ski

1959
01:38:41,532 --> 01:38:42,372
Speaker 4: market in the world.

1960
01:38:42,372 --> 01:38:44,852
Speaker 2: I'm going to throw out ten billion, but that's still glue.

1961
01:38:45,133 --> 01:38:47,732
Speaker 2: It's a lot of dosh. Oh one hundred eighty ten

1962
01:38:47,772 --> 01:38:48,772
Speaker 2: eighty it's twenty nine to four.

1963
01:38:51,612 --> 01:38:55,293
Speaker 18: Jews Talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1964
01:38:55,412 --> 01:38:59,213
Speaker 18: no trouble with a blue bubble. In breaking news, three

1965
01:38:59,293 --> 01:39:03,092
Speaker 18: people have been charged with kidnapping and manslaughter in relation

1966
01:39:03,253 --> 01:39:05,692
Speaker 18: to the death of a woman whose body was found

1967
01:39:05,812 --> 01:39:08,732
Speaker 18: in a bag and Gulf Harbor. Earlier this year, a

1968
01:39:08,812 --> 01:39:12,452
Speaker 18: man and two women have been charged. Tension in the

1969
01:39:12,452 --> 01:39:15,932
Speaker 18: House as the treaty Principalsabelle has introduced with attempts from

1970
01:39:15,973 --> 01:39:19,013
Speaker 18: the party Mardy Co leaders to have it withdrawn. The

1971
01:39:19,053 --> 01:39:21,852
Speaker 18: speakers also threatened to eject a person from the public

1972
01:39:21,893 --> 01:39:26,852
Speaker 18: gallery for multiple interruptions. At least four Napier schools are

1973
01:39:26,893 --> 01:39:30,012
Speaker 18: now in lockdown with all students reported to be safe

1974
01:39:30,133 --> 01:39:33,372
Speaker 18: after reports of a person with a firearm nearby. They

1975
01:39:33,412 --> 01:39:36,932
Speaker 18: are Parkside a Ventist Christian School, Porroit School, Henry Hill

1976
01:39:37,053 --> 01:39:41,652
Speaker 18: School and Tamatia Intermediate School. Police have a person in

1977
01:39:41,692 --> 01:39:45,653
Speaker 18: custody after ambulance staff had suspicions a person being transported

1978
01:39:45,652 --> 01:39:49,012
Speaker 18: to Auckland's White Parkeety Hospital had a gun in a bag.

1979
01:39:50,013 --> 01:39:53,293
Speaker 18: A severe thunderstorm warning has been issued for Central Hawk's

1980
01:39:53,372 --> 01:39:56,492
Speaker 18: Bay met Service as the storm is moving towards or

1981
01:39:56,612 --> 01:40:01,092
Speaker 18: Marquadi and is expected to bring torrential rain. What happens

1982
01:40:01,093 --> 01:40:04,852
Speaker 18: to Trump's criminal cases now he's won the election? Find

1983
01:40:04,853 --> 01:40:07,333
Speaker 18: out more at ends at Herald Premium. Now back to

1984
01:40:07,333 --> 01:40:08,572
Speaker 18: matt Ethan Tyler. A.

1985
01:40:08,652 --> 01:40:10,612
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, ray Lean. It is twenty five

1986
01:40:10,652 --> 01:40:10,972
Speaker 2: to four.

1987
01:40:11,093 --> 01:40:13,253
Speaker 4: I asked the very exciting question before the break, because

1988
01:40:13,253 --> 01:40:16,372
Speaker 4: we're talking about jet jet skis. What's the total value

1989
01:40:17,133 --> 01:40:19,452
Speaker 4: of the jetski market and.

1990
01:40:19,492 --> 01:40:20,812
Speaker 5: Industry in the entire world?

1991
01:40:20,893 --> 01:40:23,173
Speaker 4: Yep, someone got it right, but I think that person

1992
01:40:23,253 --> 01:40:24,372
Speaker 4: got it right probably googled it.

1993
01:40:24,692 --> 01:40:26,893
Speaker 2: I love the sticks, though someone gives nine hundred and

1994
01:40:26,973 --> 01:40:29,772
Speaker 2: seventy two million. Very specific. And why aren't jet skis

1995
01:40:29,812 --> 01:40:31,772
Speaker 2: called botorcycles?

1996
01:40:33,293 --> 01:40:33,532
Speaker 22: Wow?

1997
01:40:33,612 --> 01:40:35,333
Speaker 4: If they could go back, because I think jet ski

1998
01:40:35,452 --> 01:40:37,333
Speaker 4: is a terrible name for a jet ski. It's not

1999
01:40:37,372 --> 01:40:39,972
Speaker 4: really a jet ski, it's not really a ski. They

2000
01:40:40,013 --> 01:40:43,293
Speaker 4: need to change it to botorcyclescycles. We need to go

2001
01:40:43,333 --> 01:40:45,572
Speaker 4: back in time and find the person that if I

2002
01:40:45,652 --> 01:40:47,093
Speaker 4: got into a time machine, I go back in time

2003
01:40:47,133 --> 01:40:50,852
Speaker 4: and suggest motorcycles back then it as the total value.

2004
01:40:50,893 --> 01:40:52,812
Speaker 4: Thank you for all your text on nine two nine

2005
01:40:52,853 --> 01:40:58,732
Speaker 4: two three point one eight eight billion new Zealand dollars

2006
01:40:59,532 --> 01:41:01,492
Speaker 4: globally spent on jet.

2007
01:41:01,372 --> 01:41:02,852
Speaker 5: Skis a year.

2008
01:41:03,173 --> 01:41:04,213
Speaker 2: It's a lot of jet ski.

2009
01:41:04,333 --> 01:41:06,852
Speaker 5: That's in twenty twenty three. Yeah, that is a lot.

2010
01:41:06,933 --> 01:41:09,253
Speaker 4: Maybe that was a lot of money spend on jet skis,

2011
01:41:09,492 --> 01:41:12,412
Speaker 4: you know, coming out of the pandemic. Yeah, but yeah,

2012
01:41:12,452 --> 01:41:14,573
Speaker 4: that's a lot of money even spend on the jitski market.

2013
01:41:14,333 --> 01:41:14,652
Speaker 30: Isn't that?

2014
01:41:14,652 --> 01:41:18,732
Speaker 2: It's a good facts Idie Giday, how are you good?

2015
01:41:18,772 --> 01:41:18,972
Speaker 5: Good?

2016
01:41:19,013 --> 01:41:22,092
Speaker 2: Now we were talking about licenses for boat and jitski

2017
01:41:22,173 --> 01:41:24,572
Speaker 2: users as well. Are you a big note to that idea?

2018
01:41:25,492 --> 01:41:30,612
Speaker 20: Definitely, definitely what that Australian guy failed to say. Like

2019
01:41:30,853 --> 01:41:33,892
Speaker 20: I lived in Australia for fifteen years and the licensing

2020
01:41:33,973 --> 01:41:38,853
Speaker 20: came out about eleven years ago in Australia, being licensed

2021
01:41:39,612 --> 01:41:43,093
Speaker 20: stop accidents that happened over there. Like as I said,

2022
01:41:43,173 --> 01:41:45,013
Speaker 20: if you're going to get idiots, idiots whether you've got

2023
01:41:45,053 --> 01:41:47,732
Speaker 20: a license or not, will be idiots. Yeah, you know,

2024
01:41:47,893 --> 01:41:51,852
Speaker 20: it was just well I suppose me personally, it's just

2025
01:41:51,893 --> 01:41:56,812
Speaker 20: a revenue collection of setting the licenses and as I

2026
01:41:56,853 --> 01:41:59,692
Speaker 20: want to use for saying earlier on, it restricts people

2027
01:41:59,732 --> 01:42:01,372
Speaker 20: that just want to get out on the water on

2028
01:42:01,412 --> 01:42:04,852
Speaker 20: the weekend relax that are doing nothing wrong. You know,

2029
01:42:04,933 --> 01:42:07,892
Speaker 20: they're getting funnis for them. I listened to it earlier

2030
01:42:07,933 --> 01:42:11,372
Speaker 20: on out people not wanting jet skis here or not

2031
01:42:11,492 --> 01:42:15,093
Speaker 20: wanting jet skis there. You know, it's not going to

2032
01:42:15,173 --> 01:42:18,732
Speaker 20: stop it. It doesn't matter whether you're license or you're

2033
01:42:18,772 --> 01:42:19,733
Speaker 20: not licensed.

2034
01:42:19,772 --> 01:42:21,093
Speaker 2: Are you a boater yourself eating?

2035
01:42:22,053 --> 01:42:22,333
Speaker 14: Pardon?

2036
01:42:22,452 --> 01:42:23,172
Speaker 2: Are you a boaty?

2037
01:42:24,093 --> 01:42:24,253
Speaker 26: Yes?

2038
01:42:24,333 --> 01:42:26,213
Speaker 20: I am, definitely you would have.

2039
01:42:26,213 --> 01:42:27,852
Speaker 2: Done did you do your day skippers or no?

2040
01:42:28,692 --> 01:42:31,692
Speaker 20: Yes I did. I did that through through the coast

2041
01:42:31,692 --> 01:42:32,452
Speaker 20: guard and whatnot.

2042
01:42:32,572 --> 01:42:35,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're a responsible boaty. But I mean license

2043
01:42:36,053 --> 01:42:39,572
Speaker 2: might be a little bat two extreme. But if you've

2044
01:42:39,572 --> 01:42:42,253
Speaker 2: got if you if it was compulsory to do your

2045
01:42:42,293 --> 01:42:44,532
Speaker 2: day skippers, would you be more in favor of that?

2046
01:42:45,572 --> 01:42:50,852
Speaker 20: Definitely, definitely, And more so like for emergencies in that

2047
01:42:50,973 --> 01:42:54,292
Speaker 20: out out in the open seat, Yeah, you know, like

2048
01:42:54,293 --> 01:42:56,053
Speaker 20: like we go up to the Coromander or locked and

2049
01:42:56,093 --> 01:42:59,732
Speaker 20: launch a boat up there and and we stay out

2050
01:42:59,772 --> 01:43:00,972
Speaker 20: for two or three days.

2051
01:43:02,093 --> 01:43:02,293
Speaker 15: You know.

2052
01:43:02,612 --> 01:43:06,812
Speaker 20: But there's just normal recreational fishermen that just go out

2053
01:43:06,853 --> 01:43:13,173
Speaker 20: for the day. And but as I say, mate, you know,

2054
01:43:13,372 --> 01:43:17,293
Speaker 20: like it's like on the roads, you get idiots, they

2055
01:43:17,293 --> 01:43:19,692
Speaker 20: lose their license, doesn't stop them from driving, doesn't stop

2056
01:43:19,732 --> 01:43:20,612
Speaker 20: them from being idiots.

2057
01:43:20,772 --> 01:43:21,612
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2058
01:43:21,692 --> 01:43:23,812
Speaker 4: Well, one thing I would say about boating, which is

2059
01:43:23,812 --> 01:43:26,213
Speaker 4: incredibly terrifying. And you know, I've been out on a

2060
01:43:26,293 --> 01:43:28,613
Speaker 4: number of boats with people that are really quite experienced,

2061
01:43:28,692 --> 01:43:34,733
Speaker 4: and when when conditions change, it can be so terrifying

2062
01:43:34,772 --> 01:43:39,053
Speaker 4: out there. I think education into boating is such an

2063
01:43:39,093 --> 01:43:43,733
Speaker 4: important thing. Yeah, boy boy, there is little more terrifying

2064
01:43:43,812 --> 01:43:46,213
Speaker 4: out there than the ocean when it turns on you.

2065
01:43:46,253 --> 01:43:49,053
Speaker 2: Oh here kire recently over summer, and I mentioned before,

2066
01:43:49,133 --> 01:43:50,812
Speaker 2: got some friends who are boat. He's got the boat

2067
01:43:50,853 --> 01:43:53,132
Speaker 2: and the mulbra sounds and you go past the heads

2068
01:43:53,133 --> 01:43:56,772
Speaker 2: into cook straight and ordinarily, you know, ten years ago,

2069
01:43:56,853 --> 01:43:59,053
Speaker 2: maybe we were a little bit more reckless than we

2070
01:43:59,053 --> 01:44:01,612
Speaker 2: should have been. But we went out there and the

2071
01:44:01,652 --> 01:44:04,173
Speaker 2: waves and the swell was huge coming at us from

2072
01:44:04,213 --> 01:44:07,012
Speaker 2: all directions. And thankfully we're wise enough now to say,

2073
01:44:07,173 --> 01:44:09,892
Speaker 2: because we had a crab pot out there, cray pot, rather,

2074
01:44:10,492 --> 01:44:12,852
Speaker 2: we made the decision to go back. But ten years

2075
01:44:12,893 --> 01:44:14,532
Speaker 2: ago we might have thought, no, we're got to get

2076
01:44:14,572 --> 01:44:16,732
Speaker 2: that craypot, let's go, and it would have been trouble.

2077
01:44:17,013 --> 01:44:17,533
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2078
01:44:17,732 --> 01:44:19,933
Speaker 4: Hey, So before I was talking about my cankels. You

2079
01:44:19,973 --> 01:44:21,852
Speaker 4: know how I got sun burnt. Someone else was talking

2080
01:44:21,853 --> 01:44:24,412
Speaker 4: about getting some burnt on a jet ski. I was

2081
01:44:24,412 --> 01:44:26,773
Speaker 4: talking about how I got cankels and I was sunburnt

2082
01:44:26,772 --> 01:44:29,492
Speaker 4: on a cruise ship. Have you got photos of that?

2083
01:44:29,732 --> 01:44:33,053
Speaker 4: I have, Actually, I'd love them. And I got a

2084
01:44:33,053 --> 01:44:34,932
Speaker 4: text from someone, a very cruel text in nine two

2085
01:44:35,013 --> 01:44:37,093
Speaker 4: nine two, saying Matt talks about himself too much. No

2086
01:44:37,093 --> 01:44:37,852
Speaker 4: one cares about his.

2087
01:44:37,853 --> 01:44:39,532
Speaker 2: Cank Oh, I care about your candles?

2088
01:44:39,812 --> 01:44:40,852
Speaker 5: Would he please shut up?

2089
01:44:41,013 --> 01:44:41,532
Speaker 3: And look?

2090
01:44:42,013 --> 01:44:44,092
Speaker 4: I will shut up about my kenkeles very soon, because

2091
01:44:44,133 --> 01:44:46,412
Speaker 4: I do appreciate your feedback. But I thought this was

2092
01:44:46,412 --> 01:44:48,612
Speaker 4: a really good text that someone sent through on nine two,

2093
01:44:48,732 --> 01:44:51,412
Speaker 4: nine two. I just caught the part about ankles swelling

2094
01:44:51,452 --> 01:44:53,933
Speaker 4: up due to sunburnt Matt's cankeles. I tried ringing but

2095
01:44:54,253 --> 01:44:56,253
Speaker 4: couldn't get through. My dad's ankles used to swell up

2096
01:44:56,253 --> 01:44:59,692
Speaker 4: from sunburn and he passed away from melanoma. Please please

2097
01:44:59,732 --> 01:45:02,572
Speaker 4: do mul that mull mole maps. Not trying to be scary,

2098
01:45:02,572 --> 01:45:05,652
Speaker 4: but growing up, we'd say that the sun poisoned dad

2099
01:45:05,732 --> 01:45:09,133
Speaker 4: and he didn't know about melanoma. Very good text there, Yeah, boy,

2100
01:45:09,173 --> 01:45:11,173
Speaker 4: oh boy, you don't want to get cankles, and yeah,

2101
01:45:11,253 --> 01:45:14,093
Speaker 4: mole maps are important in fact getting I'm getting a

2102
01:45:14,133 --> 01:45:16,333
Speaker 4: mole checked next week.

2103
01:45:16,372 --> 01:45:18,772
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, very good. Oh on one hundred eighty ten

2104
01:45:18,812 --> 01:45:21,133
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to cool or squeeze Andrew and

2105
01:45:21,173 --> 01:45:22,173
Speaker 2: before break it to Andrew.

2106
01:45:23,452 --> 01:45:27,012
Speaker 24: Yeah, good, guys. The message for a few people about

2107
01:45:27,013 --> 01:45:29,213
Speaker 24: your conversations. It's always a hot topic.

2108
01:45:29,452 --> 01:45:29,652
Speaker 17: Good.

2109
01:45:29,973 --> 01:45:34,652
Speaker 24: I've been fishing off skis for about seventeen years and

2110
01:45:34,692 --> 01:45:37,452
Speaker 24: it sort of gives you a different perspective about there

2111
01:45:37,492 --> 01:45:40,372
Speaker 24: are practical uses for them as well, and not everybody

2112
01:45:40,973 --> 01:45:43,372
Speaker 24: is obviously the hone or the petrol head that just

2113
01:45:43,412 --> 01:45:46,372
Speaker 24: wanted to show off at the beach. Yeah, you guys

2114
01:45:46,372 --> 01:45:49,492
Speaker 24: are right though. If there's some form of licensing or

2115
01:45:49,973 --> 01:45:53,732
Speaker 24: more education to teach people about responsible writing, it would

2116
01:45:53,772 --> 01:45:58,173
Speaker 24: be really great for the industry. Like the fishing perspective

2117
01:45:58,572 --> 01:46:04,053
Speaker 24: off Seedos and other jetskey manufacturers. That's like the majority

2118
01:46:04,093 --> 01:46:06,852
Speaker 24: of the market now of what the use of skis

2119
01:46:06,893 --> 01:46:07,852
Speaker 24: are for a New Zealand.

2120
01:46:08,612 --> 01:46:09,253
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.

2121
01:46:10,933 --> 01:46:13,692
Speaker 4: And I agree with you on the fishing on jet skis.

2122
01:46:13,973 --> 01:46:16,812
Speaker 4: I've been involved in some a couple of situations where

2123
01:46:16,853 --> 01:46:19,253
Speaker 4: you're out fishing and you go out with a couple

2124
01:46:19,293 --> 01:46:21,532
Speaker 4: of mates and you strap yourself together. You strap three

2125
01:46:21,853 --> 01:46:24,612
Speaker 4: when you get to your fishing spot to strap these

2126
01:46:24,652 --> 01:46:27,333
Speaker 4: jetsy together and great day.

2127
01:46:27,772 --> 01:46:28,412
Speaker 5: It's a great time.

2128
01:46:28,452 --> 01:46:30,372
Speaker 4: And then you pick another another zone and your you

2129
01:46:30,532 --> 01:46:32,612
Speaker 4: zip off and meet up there again.

2130
01:46:32,973 --> 01:46:34,133
Speaker 5: That is a really good day.

2131
01:46:34,213 --> 01:46:35,892
Speaker 2: I think Matt Watson was pretty big on the old

2132
01:46:35,973 --> 01:46:37,133
Speaker 2: jet ski fishing, wasn't he.

2133
01:46:38,253 --> 01:46:41,412
Speaker 24: He's definitely had a guard that's done some pretty amazing catches.

2134
01:46:41,452 --> 01:46:43,692
Speaker 24: Often if one of you guys haven't actually done it,

2135
01:46:43,732 --> 01:46:47,012
Speaker 24: I'll quite happily get you out there on a fish

2136
01:46:47,013 --> 01:46:48,732
Speaker 24: pro and show you what it's all about, because it

2137
01:46:48,853 --> 01:46:51,092
Speaker 24: is another way to look at the whole sport as

2138
01:46:51,093 --> 01:46:55,293
Speaker 24: an industry and everybody can just do there a little

2139
01:46:55,333 --> 01:47:01,173
Speaker 24: bit and just rather than one perfection sort of ruining

2140
01:47:01,293 --> 01:47:03,412
Speaker 24: for everyone else. It is a bit of a shame.

2141
01:47:04,213 --> 01:47:05,053
Speaker 2: You're changing my mind.

2142
01:47:05,093 --> 01:47:08,812
Speaker 5: Andrew writ is number down. He'll take care Tyler, and

2143
01:47:08,853 --> 01:47:09,532
Speaker 5: you change your mind.

2144
01:47:09,572 --> 01:47:12,973
Speaker 2: I'm dead, king John, how are you good thing?

2145
01:47:14,133 --> 01:47:17,933
Speaker 28: I am a keen proponent, and I don't work for Coastguard,

2146
01:47:17,933 --> 01:47:20,412
Speaker 28: but I'm a very keen proponent that every boat he

2147
01:47:21,013 --> 01:47:24,532
Speaker 28: should be a member of Coastguard and should do a

2148
01:47:24,572 --> 01:47:28,892
Speaker 28: minimum amount of learning. I got a larger boat and

2149
01:47:28,933 --> 01:47:32,333
Speaker 28: I did my boat masters. All that turned me into

2150
01:47:32,452 --> 01:47:36,052
Speaker 28: was a bit of a pain in the posterior because

2151
01:47:36,732 --> 01:47:39,572
Speaker 28: no one enforces the rules that are out there, and

2152
01:47:39,893 --> 01:47:43,932
Speaker 28: you can know that there are flags and things that.

2153
01:47:43,853 --> 01:47:44,652
Speaker 29: You should have up.

2154
01:47:44,652 --> 01:47:47,253
Speaker 28: When a larger boat is at anger, it should have

2155
01:47:47,253 --> 01:47:49,372
Speaker 28: a black ball hanging off the front to let someone

2156
01:47:49,452 --> 01:47:51,612
Speaker 28: coming near that you've got to chain, or a rope

2157
01:47:51,732 --> 01:47:53,452
Speaker 28: out in the front of your boat. I've never seen

2158
01:47:53,452 --> 01:47:57,253
Speaker 28: one yet. A yacht that is either sails up or

2159
01:47:57,333 --> 01:48:01,132
Speaker 28: sails down but is under power is considered a power boat,

2160
01:48:01,492 --> 01:48:04,613
Speaker 28: and it should be carrying an upside down black triangle

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01:48:04,893 --> 01:48:07,093
Speaker 28: to let you know that it is under power and

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01:48:07,133 --> 01:48:09,173
Speaker 28: to be treated as a motivate. But no one never

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01:48:09,253 --> 01:48:15,372
Speaker 28: does it. You've never seen it. No, it doesn't exist.

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01:48:15,612 --> 01:48:17,812
Speaker 28: And even now you go out on the harbor. I

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01:48:17,853 --> 01:48:20,093
Speaker 28: was sitting at a coffee this morning watching the white

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01:48:20,213 --> 01:48:24,572
Speaker 28: matar and fairies full of full as fairies are ripping

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01:48:24,612 --> 01:48:28,012
Speaker 28: up and down the passage there. They are a high

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01:48:28,093 --> 01:48:30,652
Speaker 28: speed boat and they're meant to have a flashing orange

2169
01:48:30,732 --> 01:48:34,333
Speaker 28: light and they don't bother. So it really is a

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01:48:34,333 --> 01:48:37,932
Speaker 28: bit of a sham that the rules that exist are

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01:48:38,013 --> 01:48:41,692
Speaker 28: not enforced. But I'd even go as far as saying

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01:48:41,692 --> 01:48:45,253
Speaker 28: I'm in favor of licensing because at least it brings

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01:48:45,253 --> 01:48:48,732
Speaker 28: it some degree of responsibility. And the other aspect, which

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01:48:48,772 --> 01:48:52,412
Speaker 28: I'll finish on, how many people do we hear who

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01:48:52,452 --> 01:48:55,612
Speaker 28: think they can go out over a bar, the most

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01:48:55,812 --> 01:48:58,652
Speaker 28: dangerous things that you can have, and yet you get

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01:48:58,812 --> 01:49:02,892
Speaker 28: four or five big blokes and an open tinny, hopefully

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01:49:02,893 --> 01:49:05,812
Speaker 28: with light jackets. I'm going out through the manek our heads.

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01:49:06,612 --> 01:49:10,132
Speaker 28: I wouldn't touch it in the decent side, but people

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01:49:10,253 --> 01:49:11,573
Speaker 28: don't know the dangers.

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01:49:12,452 --> 01:49:17,933
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean one hundred percent. People need to

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01:49:18,333 --> 01:49:20,652
Speaker 5: enjoy the ocean, but they need to fear it.

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01:49:21,333 --> 01:49:23,492
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so with that in mind, John, I mean,

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01:49:23,532 --> 01:49:25,612
Speaker 2: can you get that from a day skipper's course? If

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01:49:25,612 --> 01:49:28,093
Speaker 2: we don't go licensing but compulsory, you've got to go

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01:49:28,173 --> 01:49:30,772
Speaker 2: do that training. And I get your point, whether it's

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01:49:30,853 --> 01:49:32,732
Speaker 2: you know, we can't have police on the water all

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01:49:32,772 --> 01:49:35,772
Speaker 2: the time checking everybody's that they've got their day skipper's course,

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01:49:35,812 --> 01:49:37,333
Speaker 2: But is that some way to go to try and

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01:49:37,333 --> 01:49:38,612
Speaker 2: get some respect for the ocean?

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01:49:39,812 --> 01:49:40,372
Speaker 20: Absolutely?

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01:49:41,452 --> 01:49:41,812
Speaker 2: Nicely.

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01:49:42,293 --> 01:49:45,692
Speaker 28: Sorry, You go to an education, any form of education,

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01:49:45,853 --> 01:49:48,333
Speaker 28: and any discipline. Why do you think people go to

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01:49:48,372 --> 01:49:53,733
Speaker 28: motorbike school? Any form of that has got to be beneficial.

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01:49:53,973 --> 01:49:57,572
Speaker 28: And I'm also listening to your previous guy about three

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01:49:57,692 --> 01:50:02,412
Speaker 28: ago who said that people ripped through areas at ridiculous

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01:50:02,412 --> 01:50:05,452
Speaker 28: speeds when it is a two hundred meter and ask

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01:50:05,532 --> 01:50:08,133
Speaker 28: anyone how far is two hundred meters when you're at sea,

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01:50:08,173 --> 01:50:11,213
Speaker 28: and it'll probably be fifteen meters. You go out there,

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01:50:11,213 --> 01:50:14,173
Speaker 28: you're fishing, and these high speed boats will go past

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01:50:14,253 --> 01:50:16,852
Speaker 28: you within fifty meters and your rock and roll and

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01:50:17,213 --> 01:50:21,253
Speaker 28: get chopped up and they don't give a toss. Yeah,

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01:50:20,612 --> 01:50:25,053
Speaker 28: it's all part of what should be encourriage. And I

2205
01:50:25,093 --> 01:50:28,572
Speaker 28: got pulled up by the boat master what do you

2206
01:50:28,612 --> 01:50:32,653
Speaker 28: call him? The habermaster, and he reckons I was speeding

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01:50:32,692 --> 01:50:36,452
Speaker 28: inside the twelve knot zone, which I told him I wasn't,

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01:50:36,452 --> 01:50:38,253
Speaker 28: and he got all nasty and I said, well, I

2209
01:50:38,253 --> 01:50:41,293
Speaker 28: don't care. I cut back to twelve knots when I

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01:50:41,372 --> 01:50:42,012
Speaker 28: hit that speed.

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01:50:42,053 --> 01:50:43,772
Speaker 29: Oh well that's not the place you dumped the cut

2212
01:50:43,772 --> 01:50:44,412
Speaker 29: bag earlier.

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01:50:44,973 --> 01:50:47,293
Speaker 28: I'll let you off on this occasion. He wasn't even

2214
01:50:47,412 --> 01:50:50,973
Speaker 28: very nice about it. But where are rules and we

2215
01:50:50,973 --> 01:50:51,732
Speaker 28: should follow them?

2216
01:50:51,812 --> 01:50:52,052
Speaker 19: Yeah?

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01:50:52,133 --> 01:50:53,892
Speaker 5: I think so much for your call.

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01:50:54,013 --> 01:50:56,652
Speaker 2: There John, plenty of teams coming through, and I know

2219
01:50:56,732 --> 01:50:58,253
Speaker 2: that you didn't want to talk about your cankels.

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01:50:58,293 --> 01:50:59,692
Speaker 5: An no, no, no, no.

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01:50:59,933 --> 01:51:02,053
Speaker 4: I would talk about my kenkels all day. There was

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01:51:02,093 --> 01:51:04,053
Speaker 4: just a couple of textas that said they didn't want

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01:51:04,053 --> 01:51:05,772
Speaker 4: to hear about my kinkles. And then I talk about

2224
01:51:05,772 --> 01:51:08,013
Speaker 4: myself too much. I'll talk about myself all day.

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01:51:08,013 --> 01:51:10,293
Speaker 2: Every time he's coming through, I want to hear more

2226
01:51:10,293 --> 01:51:14,293
Speaker 2: about the cankeles, love eddies, cankel stories. Keep them coming.

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01:51:14,652 --> 01:51:17,213
Speaker 4: White man like pork sausage, can't stand the heats as

2228
01:51:17,253 --> 01:51:20,852
Speaker 4: this person, I think that is accurate. I look ever

2229
01:51:20,853 --> 01:51:23,772
Speaker 4: since I got the candles and look, slip slap, slap,

2230
01:51:24,133 --> 01:51:27,253
Speaker 4: sun wise boy, do I rub a lot of lotion

2231
01:51:27,452 --> 01:51:29,612
Speaker 4: on those handles? Now what I'm out and about in

2232
01:51:29,612 --> 01:51:30,052
Speaker 4: the summer?

2233
01:51:30,853 --> 01:51:31,492
Speaker 2: David, how are you?

2234
01:51:33,452 --> 01:51:33,652
Speaker 14: Yeah?

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01:51:33,732 --> 01:51:33,932
Speaker 19: Good?

2236
01:51:34,013 --> 01:51:34,612
Speaker 20: Thanks fellas.

2237
01:51:34,652 --> 01:51:34,852
Speaker 27: Good.

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01:51:35,213 --> 01:51:39,213
Speaker 29: Look, I've just returned over from back from Australia, and

2239
01:51:39,253 --> 01:51:42,173
Speaker 29: I believe listening to you show that you've got to

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01:51:42,213 --> 01:51:45,732
Speaker 29: be registered over in Australia. Well, I'll tell you what

2241
01:51:47,213 --> 01:51:50,253
Speaker 29: going we're on one of the furies are how many

2242
01:51:50,372 --> 01:51:55,812
Speaker 29: boats went past us with nobody wearing life jackets? So

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01:51:56,333 --> 01:51:59,652
Speaker 29: at least over here, everybody has to wear a life jacket.

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01:51:59,812 --> 01:52:05,692
Speaker 29: Over there, it was a freaking shoke. No life jackets on.

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01:52:06,692 --> 01:52:08,692
Speaker 29: There were shame kids on the boat rollo.

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01:52:09,612 --> 01:52:15,172
Speaker 2: So it doesn't make much sense, doesn't Yeah, it really doesn't.

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01:52:15,293 --> 01:52:17,692
Speaker 29: A lot of time, it's a lot of time. I've

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01:52:17,732 --> 01:52:20,852
Speaker 29: gone out and I go from one time there and

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01:52:20,893 --> 01:52:25,213
Speaker 29: there's a boat master but it's the same tag and

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01:52:25,612 --> 01:52:29,973
Speaker 29: he is policing it, and you know it does equals up.

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01:52:30,853 --> 01:52:33,213
Speaker 29: I just have to make sure that everybody's not their

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01:52:33,253 --> 01:52:37,852
Speaker 29: life checkets on. But as to your previous caller, I

2253
01:52:37,973 --> 01:52:40,692
Speaker 29: got pulled over in the York from Harbor for the

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01:52:40,732 --> 01:52:43,333
Speaker 29: half Master because I had a bell rider and the

2255
01:52:43,372 --> 01:52:46,093
Speaker 29: guy tries to say, you can't bear right it's a

2256
01:52:46,093 --> 01:52:47,053
Speaker 29: bell rider.

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01:52:50,013 --> 01:52:50,333
Speaker 6: By the.

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01:52:51,933 --> 01:52:55,293
Speaker 29: Yeah, I just couldn't believe. Under the Sydney half Bridge

2259
01:52:55,732 --> 01:53:00,132
Speaker 29: there was both flying passes almost like they were almost

2260
01:53:00,652 --> 01:53:03,333
Speaker 29: on the ground and no last tickets of.

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01:53:03,732 --> 01:53:08,293
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, just just on the life jackets is a manta

2262
01:53:08,412 --> 01:53:09,892
Speaker 2: sorry to wear them in New Zealand or you just

2263
01:53:09,933 --> 01:53:11,012
Speaker 2: have to have them on the vessel.

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01:53:12,013 --> 01:53:15,612
Speaker 19: Well, it depends, no, no, no, no, you've got to

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01:53:15,652 --> 01:53:16,173
Speaker 19: wear them.

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01:53:17,173 --> 01:53:19,253
Speaker 29: I'm pretty sure boats under.

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01:53:22,893 --> 01:53:24,213
Speaker 9: Whatever their feet.

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01:53:24,372 --> 01:53:26,772
Speaker 29: Well, mate, no, maybe you have.

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01:53:26,772 --> 01:53:29,293
Speaker 25: To wear them if you had pulled up.

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01:53:31,093 --> 01:53:33,372
Speaker 29: Or even around here. I'm pyre.

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01:53:34,893 --> 01:53:36,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll look into that. I mean, look, I agree,

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01:53:36,933 --> 01:53:39,372
Speaker 2: if you're on the boat and you're fanging along, a

2273
01:53:39,452 --> 01:53:42,052
Speaker 2: life jacket's an absolutely good idea if you're a diver,

2274
01:53:42,173 --> 01:53:44,612
Speaker 2: I mean, divers would argue that the wetsuit would still

2275
01:53:44,652 --> 01:53:47,372
Speaker 2: point and connect as a life jacket. But I'm right,

2276
01:53:48,013 --> 01:53:48,492
Speaker 2: life jacket.

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01:53:48,572 --> 01:53:50,852
Speaker 5: But my dad was shout out to me. If he's listening,

2278
01:53:50,853 --> 01:53:51,532
Speaker 5: I'm sure he isn't.

2279
01:53:51,532 --> 01:53:54,173
Speaker 4: But if he is, boy or boy, was he hardcore

2280
01:53:54,293 --> 01:53:56,572
Speaker 4: on the life jackets. Now, we would have to put

2281
01:53:56,612 --> 01:53:58,652
Speaker 4: our life jackets on as we got out of the car,

2282
01:54:00,452 --> 01:54:04,013
Speaker 4: so so we'd be we'd be you know, wheeling, you know,

2283
01:54:04,732 --> 01:54:07,492
Speaker 4: wheeling the trailer sailor down into the water with all

2284
01:54:07,492 --> 01:54:10,293
Speaker 4: our life jackets on. And as a kid, I found

2285
01:54:10,333 --> 01:54:11,212
Speaker 4: it hugely embarrassing.

2286
01:54:11,213 --> 01:54:14,492
Speaker 5: I see other friends down putting the yachts in the water,

2287
01:54:14,933 --> 01:54:16,532
Speaker 5: and we'd all have our life jackets on.

2288
01:54:16,652 --> 01:54:20,253
Speaker 4: But I respect it now, Yeah, because all he wanted

2289
01:54:20,253 --> 01:54:21,972
Speaker 4: to do was make sure we had their life jackets

2290
01:54:21,973 --> 01:54:24,812
Speaker 4: on and not have to think about it. But yeah, boy,

2291
01:54:24,853 --> 01:54:28,572
Speaker 4: oh boy, he really, really really enforced the lie life

2292
01:54:28,652 --> 01:54:29,173
Speaker 4: jacket rules.

2293
01:54:29,173 --> 01:54:30,892
Speaker 2: I like your dad's style O eight one hundred and

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01:54:30,893 --> 01:54:32,653
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty as the number to call it is

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Speaker 2: eleven to four.

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Speaker 2: News Talk, zed B Philip, how are you actually just

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Speaker 2: hold them mate? We're going to come back to you.

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Speaker 2: We're way behind, so just told this, So sorry, Philip

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Speaker 2: Philip, thank you very much for hanging on. You go

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01:55:12,812 --> 01:55:13,453
Speaker 2: for it, my friends.

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Speaker 27: You said before about licensing, there's a barrier to actually

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01:55:19,373 --> 01:55:22,253
Speaker 27: get people in boating. Well, I don't think it's true

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01:55:22,772 --> 01:55:26,613
Speaker 27: if you actually use commute based training for your training

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01:55:26,613 --> 01:55:29,772
Speaker 27: and your licensing, and that's accessible when you're giving people

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01:55:29,812 --> 01:55:34,053
Speaker 27: excess not only your knowledge but also the actual you know,

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01:55:34,293 --> 01:55:37,333
Speaker 27: putting a pub exam and so could it actually make

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01:55:37,373 --> 01:55:39,373
Speaker 27: it a lot successible and you can actually get that

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01:55:39,853 --> 01:55:40,613
Speaker 27: knowledge across.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well brilliant. Thank you for that. That's a great suggestion.

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01:55:42,973 --> 01:55:44,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. A great way to finish off

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01:55:44,533 --> 01:55:47,213
Speaker 2: change my mind about gets Kisara, you love them? Yeah, yeah,

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01:55:47,253 --> 01:55:49,173
Speaker 2: I'm okay with a bittern from time to time.

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Speaker 5: What about my canicles? Do you care about them?

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01:55:51,093 --> 01:55:53,012
Speaker 2: I love your canicles. I want to see the photos.

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01:55:53,013 --> 01:55:55,653
Speaker 2: Where you want to see the photos? Bring them in tomorrow, please, Hey,

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01:55:55,653 --> 01:55:58,053
Speaker 2: thank you very much for today. Great show tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: It's been a lot of fun. Hey, and give a

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