1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture Beds and a play at store us Dogs. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning, six after five. You've reached the 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: middle of the week. Our lead interview before sixth this morning, 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Sir Lockwood Smith on harsher punishments for some bad MPs. 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: What's posing going to do next now that Zelensky is 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: firing long range? Hard enough calls for concrete not ash 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: felt on our motorways and Gavin Gray's in the UK. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: The agenda. 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the twentieth of November. Biden gave permission 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: and Zelensky's pulled the trigger for the first time. Ukraine's 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: fired six American long range missiles into Russia. It comes 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: on the one thousandth day of the war. Zelensky spoke 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: to the European Parliament. 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: You know very well that it does not telling people 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: or rules all lid, money and pop. These are the 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 4: sinks we must take away from them back home. 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: A few stubborn smokers just won't quit. We're not quite 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: on track to meet our smoke for a twenty twenty 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: five goal. Results from the annual New Zealand Health Survey 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: show daily smoking rates are at six point nine percent. 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: They were six point eight percent and the last survey 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: the smoke free goal is five percent. Isn't that bizarre? 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: Such an arbitrary line in the sand. Only when we 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: get down one point nine percent further will we have succeeded. 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Why anyway, Youth hazardous drinking rates have dropped thirteen percent 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: over the past five years. That's why the kids are 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: all mental. No one's chilling out our two Hong Kong. 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: A political stunt can get you ten years locked up. 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: Forty five pro democracy activists have been sentenced, some for 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: up to ten years, for holding an unofficial vote to 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: choose candidates for the legislative election in twenty twenty. 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 5: The trial of forty seven and is clearly intended by 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 5: the authorities to put a market down that if you're 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 5: trying to do anything, lay that and you will feed 37 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 5: very severe consequences. 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's been playing hide and seek at the G 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: twenty and rio. The other world leaders were seen striking 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: a pose before they realized US President Joe Biden was lost. 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: For Biden game after a bit of a flurry. Biden 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: was found behind a palm tree. You've got to know. 43 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: You've got George and Maloney, You've got moder You've got 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: Mahon all standing there ready to pose, and Wisdoe behind 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: a palm tree. 46 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 6: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge you for twenty 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 6: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 48 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 6: furniture Bids and a playing store news talk zid Be. 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: Apparently he wanted to avoid being photographed next to lav 50 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: of the Russian Foreign Minister, and so but I mean, 51 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 2: what a way to do it. I know what I'll 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: do to avoid that photo op. It's Hyde, dude, You're 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: the leader of the free world. Someone is going to 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: notice you're missing from a meeting a photo of the 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: G twenty and he's only nineteen. Anyway, he eventually got 56 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: to his place and they had the photo on Russia. 57 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: Why is he the missing man? Why is he only 58 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: now allowing the Americans? So the American made long range 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: missiles to hit inside Russia. A lot of theories on this. 60 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: Is it a play before Trump gets into the reigns 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: of the White House. We spoke about that yesterday. Leon Panette. 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: He's a former US Secretary of Defense worked under Clinton. 63 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: He says, this is actually about North Korea. 64 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 7: I'm glad that he made the decision to do it. 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 7: Ukraine needs to have that ability because it's likely that 66 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 7: those North Korean soldiers will be used to try to 67 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 7: reach take Kursk. 68 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's eleven thousand North Korean soldiers, remember we've 69 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: been covering this for a while, that have gone into Russia, 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: are working alongside the Russian troops against the Ukrainians. And 71 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: so the theory is that this is a signal to 72 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 2: not just North Korea, but more importantly to China, stay 73 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: the hell out of this war, because I will authorize 74 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: the use of long range weapons like this. They can 75 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: travel up to three hundred kilometers. They pack one point 76 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: seven kilograms worth of payload in the top of the warhead. 77 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: And Lavrov made the point at the G twenty that 78 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: you don't just the Ukrainians, don't just fire these. You 79 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: need US satellites, you need specialist data, You essentially need 80 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: US forces operating and firing these, which is a huge escalation. 81 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: So what have you seen in response, Well, you've seen 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: Lavrov at the G twenty saying this is an escalation 83 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: by the West, So we'll have some audio of that 84 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: for you in a few minutes time plus. We're going 85 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: to speak to Dimitry Goreenberg. He's a specialist in what 86 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: was a specialist in the USSR military and also how 87 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: Putin might respond. We'll speak to him next. It's eleven after. 88 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: Five, Bryan Bridge. 89 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: Look out, if you're in a gang, if you're listening 90 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: with your patch on this morning, you've got well, you've 91 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: got the rest of the day. You've got until midnight. 92 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith is coming for you, as is Mark Mitchell. 93 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: Are you scared, Well, you should be scared of these 94 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: regional gang units that have been stood up to try 95 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: and get rid of the patches. So from the stroke 96 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: of midnight, your gang patch will be illegal to be 97 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: worn in public. That includes gang insignia. I've heard that 98 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: what they're doing now some of the gang members is 99 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: wearing hoodies that say Charlie's Chocolate Factory or Charlie's Chip 100 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: Factory or whatever, and they know, you know, if you 101 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: know you know, they know what gang they Anyway, I 102 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: suppose it's not exactly intimidating. If you see a man 103 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: wearing a Charlie's Chocolate Factory T shirt. Is it not 104 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 2: as bad as among the mob one? Anyway, there you go. 105 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: You've got until midnight. Enjoy your patch today people twelve 106 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: after five. 107 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: News and views you trust to start your day. 108 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 6: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New 109 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 6: Zealand's furniture beds and a plying store. 110 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: News Talk said the fourteen after five nine two nine 111 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: two is the number text. Good news for Napier. Their 112 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 2: port had a good result yesterday. Profit up fifty percent. 113 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: This is cyclone Gabrielle recovery obviously helping with volumes. Their 114 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: volume growth up and a net profit after tax twenty 115 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: four point eight million dollars for the twelve months to September. 116 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: That's up forty nine point seven percent compared on the 117 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: year prior. Bulk cargo volume grew nine percent. There was 118 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: a thirteen and a half percent increase in log volumes 119 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: that was supported apparently by wind thrown and redirected logs. 120 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: And more good news on the way as well, because 121 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: you've got your cru season coming, so the port's expecting 122 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: eighty five cruise ship bookings for the twenty twenty five seasons. 123 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: So for a region that needs a bit of good news. 124 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: There's some for you this morning, quarter past. 125 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: Five, Bryan Bridge. 126 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: So the Ukrainians have taken advantage of American weapons and 127 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: fired long range missiles inside Russia. Sergei Lavrov, who's the 128 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: Russian Foreign miniSTR at the DG twenty a few moments ago, 129 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: said we will take this as a new phase in 130 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: the war from the west and we will respond. Dmitri 131 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: Goenberg is a Russian security expert. He's got expertise on 132 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: the former Soviet Union in Russian military. He was with Harvard, 133 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: now with CNA. He joins us this morning, Welcome to 134 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: the show, Thanks for having me, Thank you for being here. 135 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: How do you think Russia will respond to something like. 136 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 8: This, Well, I don't think there's going to be a 137 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 8: very strong response, and for a couple of reasons. One, 138 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 8: they've been expecting this for a while, so it's kind 139 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 8: of already kind of baked in. They did respond initially 140 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 8: to the reports with a large barrage of of missiles 141 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 8: aimed at Ukraine. And then the second part is they're 142 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 8: waiting for the Trump administration. They see that Biden administration 143 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 8: is at this point is on its way out. And 144 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 8: they think that they can maybe get some more you know, 145 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 8: changes in policy out of out of Trump. So I 146 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 8: don't think they're gonna want to escalate too much in 147 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 8: next you know, in the next couple of months. 148 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: What's your theory on why Biden did it now? Is 149 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 2: it the North Koreans or is it because Trump's coming 150 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: or both? 151 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: I think both. 152 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 8: They they want to get as much in place before 153 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 8: Trump comes in on the theory that you know, while 154 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 8: Trump wouldn't potentially wouldn't approve this, he's also potentially not 155 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 8: going to reverse the decision if it's already been made, uh, 156 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 8: And they want to you know, set up the Ukrainians 157 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 8: for to have as much uh uh you know, leeway 158 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 8: and success as possible. 159 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: In terms of potent lwering the threshold for the use 160 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: of nuclear weapons and signing that symbolically overnight got anything 161 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: to do with this or is that I mean, obviously 162 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: it's been well signaled, but should we read much into that. 163 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 8: I think that I wouldn't be surprised if they were 164 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 8: holding in their back pocket and waiting for some thing 165 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 8: like this, uh to uh to pull it out and say, Okay, 166 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 8: here's here's what we're doing. Uh, the overall change in 167 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 8: in nuclear doctrine does have kind of writ larges related 168 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 8: to UH, Western supplies of weapons and long range missiles 169 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 8: and things like that. So because one of the things 170 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 8: they're afraid of is you know, long range conventional strikes 171 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 8: from the US. So that's part of the change in 172 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 8: the doctrine. But it doesn't have anything speci pecifically to 173 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 8: do with this decision. It's just kind of the larger 174 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 8: confrontation in Russia in the West. 175 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: How does this end? In your mind? There's been talk 176 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: of a DMZ being set up potentially between Russia and Ukraine. 177 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: You know, Ukraine agreeing not to join NATO for twenty years, 178 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: US weapons at the border manned by NATO soldiers, etc. 179 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: Does Putin do a deal like that? 180 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: Well, I don't you know. 181 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 8: All this talk of negotiation right now is predicated on 182 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 8: Russia actually. 183 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: Being interested in negotiations. 184 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 8: I don't see much evidence of that, to be honest, 185 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 8: because right now they see themselves as having great deal 186 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 8: of success on the battlefield, so they'll be happy to 187 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 8: participate in negotiations that result in what is essentially Ukrainian capitulation. 188 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 8: But the Western sides, and even you know, whatever we 189 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 8: may happen with the Trump administration of the Europeans and 190 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 8: the Ukrainians themselves are not willing to go for that. 191 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: So I think I wouldn't expect a quick end. 192 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: What on earth is his end game. 193 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: For Russia? 194 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 8: Uh? The well, they want to I mean they've they've 195 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 8: stated it quite clearly. They want to have a sphere 196 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 8: of influence over the former Soviet territory, and you know 197 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 8: Ukraine is the most important part of that for them. 198 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 8: So I think that plus showing that the West or 199 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 8: NATO and you know NATO alliance is weak and can't 200 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 8: stop this, that's that's the goal. 201 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time. Dmitri Gourenberg, Russian security 202 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: expert formerly of Harvard, Now is CNA. It is just 203 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: gone nineteen and a up to five news talk CB. 204 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 6: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition 205 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 6: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Bits and a playing 206 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 6: store news talk. 207 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: Zibby, Good morning if you're just joining us twenty two 208 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: after five. I've just been handed the latest global dairy 209 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: train auctions, so overall up one point nine percent, which 210 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: is good, butter up half a percent, a cheddar down 211 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: three point one percent. And where do we always look 212 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: as our milk powders, because that's our biggest skim milk 213 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: powders up point nine percent, and whole milk powder's up 214 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: point three two percent, which is good, always good to 215 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: be positive. Mozzarella down six point six two after five 216 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: Now rich truck, he's won our roads to harden up, 217 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: calling for concrete on busy sections of State Highway over Asheville, 218 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: Asheville and You. Report launched by Transport Minister Simeon Brown, 219 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: shows concrete roads are well suited for high intensity traffic 220 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: and are more cost effective in the long run, though 221 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: they do cost more upfront. Maintenance costs can be up 222 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: to sixty two percent less. James Smith is with the 223 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: National Road Carriers Union. He's with US Live this morning. James, 224 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: Good morning to you. 225 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 9: Good morning, Ryan. 226 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: Good to have you on the show. Obviously, you guys 227 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: would like a bit more concrete. 228 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 10: We want better roads, Ryan, That's that's always a good thing. 229 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: Where exactly would concrete help? 230 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 10: I think concrete helps where you've got high volumes of traffic, 231 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 10: especially traffic that's that's got some some weight to it 232 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 10: and because concrete gives us a far more resilient road, 233 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 10: it gives us a much lower cost over the life 234 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 10: total life of the road. And that's that's I think 235 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 10: the significant change in direction we're seeing from this government. 236 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 10: They're starting to look at what is the long term 237 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 10: cost implications of a decision rather than the previously held 238 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 10: view of the what can we do for the lowest cost? 239 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: Now paper over and then literally fill in the cracks 240 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: every five minutes? Can you go faster or correct? Can 241 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: can big vehicles go faster on concrete too? 242 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 6: No? 243 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 10: Not no, We're not not so worried about that. But 244 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 10: what it does do is it potentially you know, it 245 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 10: removes that continual need to fix potholes, so you know 246 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 10: you've got and again it's not going to work everywhere 247 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 10: because you know New Zealand's got challenging topography. But where 248 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 10: it will work, I think it should be seriously looked at. 249 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: And it sounds like Simon Brown is going to be 250 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: doing that. Is at a conference today, Hey, what about 251 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: the Desert road closing for two months? I suppose it's 252 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: got to be done. 253 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 10: Absolutely, and it's been well signaled, like we've known about 254 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 10: this since gosh would have been August, and it's part 255 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 10: of that renewals program that started off at t RAL 256 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 10: making it way all the way through to WAYUU. So 257 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 10: well signaled. There's plenty, you know, there's alternatives to do, 258 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 10: and it's going to end up with a much better 259 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 10: finish than the need. 260 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: Brilliant James, Thanks very much for being on the program. 261 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. James Smith with the National Road Carriers Union, 262 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: just gone twenty five minutes after five News Talks there 263 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: b Lockwood Smith, former speaker on the show. Just before 264 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: six this morning. 265 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 6: See Fily edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio. 266 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: How it by News Talks, AB, You're on. 267 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: News Talks hereb. Democracy is a delicate and fragile thing, 268 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: and yesterday's protest was a good example of it. Working 269 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: people opposed something, they protest peacefully, respectfully, they present a petition, 270 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: they go home. The bill by the way that they 271 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: don't like, well, it's not becoming law. You don't have 272 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: to look far this morning for examples of things going 273 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: tits up in a big way, and quickly we've basically farewell. 274 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: Freedom in Hong Kong forty seven activist sentence to long term, prisons, sentences, overnights, 275 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: kids in the West Bank being killed. You've got a 276 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: tyrant in Putin lowering the bar for the use of 277 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: nuclear weapons. Plus you've got US made long range missiles 278 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: into Russia. But here we have a functioning democracy. Now 279 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: the hikoi is over, at Hwiti y Tetti wants to 280 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: go further. He wants a separate Mardi parliament. He wants 281 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: two systems, he references on his website, the Irish, Welsh 282 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: and Scottish systems, the latter of which controls its own justice, education, 283 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: tax systems. How would that work here? Who would fund 284 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: such a parliament? Who would fall under the Maldi parliament? 285 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: Given seventy five percent of Mardi didn't vote for at 286 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: Hwiti's lot at the last election. How would you build 287 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: a nation within a nation separated not by borders but ethnicity. 288 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: Sarah's question. You see, democracy works when we're all in it, 289 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: and we're all in it equally. It's true that not 290 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: every group will get the same outcomes from that system, 291 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: but that's no reason to throw the system away entirely. 292 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: What it is sure is a call to better use 293 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: that system to affect change through strong and pragmatic leadership, 294 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: the likes of which Tapati Marti has been known for 295 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: in the past. Whether you'll get that leadership from Debbi 296 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: and Waitetti, Well, we have to wait and see. 297 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge look with Smith. 298 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: Smith is on the show just before six this morning, 299 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: talking about Parliament's rules and bad behavior, whether anything there 300 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: should change. 301 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 6: The news you need this morning and the in depth 302 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 6: analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New 303 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 6: Zealand's furniture, beds and a playing store news talks. 304 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 9: It'd be. 305 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: Good Morning New Zealand. It is twenty four minutes away 306 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: from six. Welcome to early edition. I'm Ryan Bridge. Great 307 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 2: to have your company this Wednesday morning. Gavin Gray's out 308 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: of the UK shortly. Who cut that undersea cable in 309 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: the Baltic Sea? The Germans reckon They've got an idea. 310 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: He'll talk about that. Plus we're going to speak to 311 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: Speaker Sir Lockwood Smith on potentially increasing the punishment for 312 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: bad behaving MPs. I don't necessarily think that's going to 313 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: change anything or worth doing. Does anyone know MSNBC's Morning 314 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: Joe Show in the United States, This married couple. They 315 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: are quite annoying to watch. Joe Scarborough and Mikey Micah 316 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: Bazenski are their names, and they sit there together and 317 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: hate on Trump. They've done it for the past seven 318 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: years or so. This is an example. 319 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: You got to let us actually question. You're just talking. 320 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 10: Donald Donald, Donald Donald. 321 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: You're not going to keep talking. 322 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: We will go to break if you keep talking, We're 323 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: going to ask a question. You give there, you get 324 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: the idea. So it was fiery for a long time. 325 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: It was a visceral hatred. Right anyway, over the weekend, 326 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: what do they do. They go to mar A Lago. 327 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 11: Joe and I went to Mara a Lago to meet 328 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 11: personally with President like Trump. Joe and I realize it's 329 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 11: time to do something different, and that starts with not 330 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 11: only talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him. 331 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: So what they've realized is that eighty million of their 332 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 2: fellow countrymen actually did vote for Donald Trump. And you 333 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: can hardly run the TV show, a media outlet without 334 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: possibly talking to the guy that they voted for. So 335 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: a bit of a u turn from them. Twenty two 336 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: away from six, Ryan Bridge and our reporters now, and 337 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: we start with Callen Proctor and Ned and Cullum. Good morning, 338 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: to you. There's some study from otago Uni really interesting 339 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: looking at the mental health impacts of face masks. 340 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: Ye morning, Ryan. 341 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 12: The studies found that wearing free those masks can have 342 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 12: negative impacts on our mood and focus. Students aged eighteen 343 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 12: to thirty six years old specifically felt less happy, more 344 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 12: tense as well while wearing a mask for eight hours 345 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 12: compared to when they weren't. They also performed worse on 346 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 12: a cognitive test. The studies authors say it's surprising given 347 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 12: students are generally at their peak developed mentally. They say 348 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 12: they concern the impacts could be worse for vulnerable populations 349 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 12: who will likely struggle more. We're that today a few 350 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 12: showers morning and evening for Danedin and seventeen today. 351 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: They just need to make the face masks clear, don't 352 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: they so we can all see each other? Still, I'm 353 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: sure they wouldn't work our clear than christ Church clear. 354 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 2: Good morning to you. It calls for the government to 355 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: do more on Pike River. 356 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 13: Yes, well, to do more in terms of honoring the 357 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 13: legacy of the Pike River disaster. 358 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 14: Ryan. 359 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 13: So, of course, the West Coast mine exploded fourteen years ago. 360 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 13: The anniversary was yesterday. We know the bodies of the 361 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 13: twenty nine men have never been recovered. Minister of Workplace 362 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 13: Relations Brook van Walden did acknowledge the anniversary yesterday. She 363 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 13: read a statement in Parliament, but it toos Mark Anderson says, well, 364 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 13: it's good the House took some time to recognize the incident. 365 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 13: The minister's actions show lessons have not been learned. He 366 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 13: says the government is looking for ways to water down 367 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 13: the Health and Safety at Work Act when more robust 368 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 13: laws are actually needed. 369 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather today, Claire. 370 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 13: Could be a few showers about christ which today could 371 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 13: be heavy, maybe some hail, but should clear by evening, 372 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 13: light winds and a high of nineteen. 373 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: Right, thank you very much and enjoy Maxis and Wellington 374 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: max decent crowd for the hec woy yesterday. 375 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 15: I think it's fair to say, yeah. I think it's 376 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 15: also fair to say it exceeded expectations, probably just really 377 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 15: due to the number of Wellingtonians who were joined, maybe 378 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 15: at the last minutes. Maybe they were always planning two 379 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 15: public servants for instance, taking a few hours off work, 380 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 15: local Maldi indigenous people as well. We were hearing anything 381 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 15: from five to ten thousand up to thirty thousand in 382 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 15: estimates beforehand yesterday, but police reckon it got up to 383 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 15: forty two thousand in the end. The organizers of the 384 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 15: hikoy as you'd imagine, reckoned more closer to fifty thousand, 385 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 15: and to be honest, it could well have been. The 386 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 15: Parliament grounds were full, neighboring streets. A lot of people 387 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 15: couldn't even get to Parliament. There was disruption yesterday obviously 388 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 15: traffic wise, but I think all things being weighed up, 389 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 15: police transport operators fairly happy with how it went down. 390 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 15: Up to forty thousand people passed through Central Railway station. 391 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 15: There were twenty medical related incidents people fainting, nothing too serious, 392 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 15: though a few kids went missing. 393 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: They were found. 394 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 15: One person was arrested around midday for disorderly behavior. Otherwise 395 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 15: nothing of note according to police. 396 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: Not bad all right. How's the weather today? 397 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 15: Some rain this morning, then partly cloudy eighteen the high brilliant. 398 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: Thank you and neighbors and Auckland. Hey Neaver, good morning. 399 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: Tell me about the events. Funding for Auckland. 400 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 16: Yes, well, now this is pressure on the government. This 401 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 16: is to allow Auckland Council to introduce a big text 402 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 16: so Auckland Council was warned earlier this year that look 403 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 16: dollars of extra funding isn't found, many major events could 404 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 16: be at risk for next year. So Wayne Brown's latest 405 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 16: budget proposal now that doesn't include any increases in targeted 406 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 16: or general rates for the events. And Shane Henderson, he's 407 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 16: a counselor, he said, look to central government. They need 408 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 16: to legislate. They need to allow the council to introduce 409 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 16: a visitor levy on accommodation providers. Henderson says, they just 410 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 16: want the ability to work with local businesses to find 411 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 16: a scheme that works, get the money in there. 412 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: And what events? Do we know what ones might be? 413 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 16: No, they haven't said, but. 414 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: It's a big pole with money, Paul. 415 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 16: And they're thinking, you know, like I suppose America's cover. 416 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 16: Imagine if that was ever to be hosted here with 417 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 16: you know those big. 418 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: Bit more than seven million. Hey, but interesting that whenever 419 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: we have these problems now we've seen it with the 420 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: dock tracks in the last couple of days, we go 421 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: foreigners they'll pay exactly, you know, when we're hard up, 422 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: we just look to the tourists. Yeah, Anyway, it looks 423 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: like we might do it in Auckland as well. Whe 424 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: how's the weather today? 425 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 16: Showers this morning, clearing though by early afternoon we've got 426 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 16: a few isolated evening shower. I was peppering the region. 427 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 16: Twenty is the high brilliant. 428 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, NVA. Great to see you. It 429 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: is eighteen away from six. You're on news Talk SEB 430 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: All right, morning commute, coffee in hand and you're already 431 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 2: thinking about that to do list. 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When Smith City is right there, gets 443 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: even better, earn airpoints dollars while you shop, deck out 444 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: your home and stack up for your next holiday to 445 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: win win Smith City eighteen stores nationwide, including the new 446 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: Wido Park outlet or shop online smith City dot co dot. 447 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 6: NZ International correspondence with When's it Eye Insurance the Peace 448 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 6: of Mind for New Zealand Business fourteen. 449 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: Away from sex Lots of smith Nicks right now, Gavin 450 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 2: Gray out of the UK. How is Britain responding? The 451 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: UK responding to news that Biden has given the green 452 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: light for the use of these long range missiles and 453 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: to Russia for Ukraine and now that Ukraine has used them. 454 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 17: Yeah, right, And it's a bit of a sort of 455 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 17: cagy game at the moment because of course America not 456 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 17: saying a great deal about its involvement, leaving it to 457 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 17: Ukraine to talk about and indeed the UK sort of 458 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 17: playing a similar game. So Keir Starmer saying the quickest 459 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 17: way for this conflict to end is for Russia to stop. 460 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 17: He said, it's a thousand days of Russian aggression, a 461 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 17: thousand days of sacrifice by Ukraine. And he said it's 462 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 17: clear that we must give Ukraine the support that's needed 463 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 17: for as long as it's needed, and the simplest way 464 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 17: to end this conflict is for Russia to stop the aggression. 465 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 17: He would not be drawn on the significance of that 466 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 17: decision by the Americans to let Ukraine use those missiles 467 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 17: for strikes into Russia. And you know, similar comments actually 468 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 17: made as well by the European Union's top diplomat Joseppe 469 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 17: Burrell in comments and response really to Russia changing its 470 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 17: changing its sort of constitution as it were, around when 471 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 17: it is okay to fire a nuclear weapon and Josette 472 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 17: Burrell saying its not the first time they threatened nuclear escalation. 473 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 17: It is completely irresponsible. Interesting that as you look as 474 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 17: well at the financial markets now across Europe, the dollar 475 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 17: has risen against major rivals like the pound and the 476 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 17: euro gold cost jumped, and plenty of people as well 477 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 17: looking at the markets which are very jittery over this, 478 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 17: with the pound losing some value against the dollar this afternoon. 479 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 17: And suffice to say as well that earlier the foreign 480 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 17: ministers of the UK, Germany, France, Poland, Italy and Spain 481 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 17: all releasing a joint statement saying russia systematic attacks on 482 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 17: European security architecture are unprecedent entered in their variety in 483 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 17: scale and creating a significant security risk. And by that 484 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 17: they're talking about recent cuts to communication cables between the 485 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 17: European Union. 486 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot going on there, and we just spoke 487 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: to a Russian security expert who reckons, Look, it is 488 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: significant that the Americans are involved here, and it's their 489 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: weaponry that's going now long range into Russia. Five out 490 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: of six, by the way, the Russians managed to shoot 491 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: down before they hit. It is significant, but that Russia 492 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: is not going to do very much in the way 493 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: of a response. Nothing too drastic or significant. That was 494 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: his take anyway, Just gone twelve minutes away from six o'clock. 495 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge so. 496 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: Calls this morning for harsher punishments for MP's misbehaving in 497 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: the house he's in on first. Shane Jones says to 498 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: party Marti's routine last week was a step too far. 499 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: It was a disgrace, and he says Standing orders needer 500 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: once over. 501 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 14: We now need to reform, sharpen and bring Standing Orders 502 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 14: into a world where it is a parent a host 503 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 14: of members no longer fear the consequences. 504 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 2: So Lockwood Smith is a former speaker of the Houses 505 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: with us this morning. Mortena, good morning morning, right, great 506 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: to have you on the show. Do we need tougher penalties, 507 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: harsher penalties? Do they actually work? 508 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 9: It's an interesting issue because obviously Parliament has some real privileges. 509 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 9: I mean, as speaker at the start through parliament you 510 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 9: go to the Governor General, the head of state in 511 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 9: New Zealand and seek the privileges of the Parliament from 512 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 9: the Governor General. And one of those privileges, of course, 513 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 9: is the privilege of free speech in the Parliament, which 514 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 9: is pretty special. You know what you can say. A 515 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 9: member can say almost anything in the House and not 516 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 9: be sued for it. So the privileges are very special 517 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 9: and to breach those privileges to is a serious issue. 518 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 9: And okay, the other day, I think the Speaker named 519 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 9: a member for you know, interrupting the proceedings of the House, 520 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 9: and the penalty for that's only one day's exclusion. They 521 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 9: lose a member that's named, loses their pay for one day. 522 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 9: They can't be involved in the debate or committees or anything. 523 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 9: They can't vote for a day. If they do it again, 524 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 9: of course, it's seven days. And if they do it 525 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 9: beyond that, it's even a bigger penalty again for a 526 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 9: third offense. But it's possible, you know, that the issue 527 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 9: should be referred to the Standing Orders Committee, which is 528 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 9: a committee of senior members of Parliament that meets every 529 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 9: parliamentary term to upfate the Standing Orders and look at 530 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 9: that issue of the severity of that first breach, you know, 531 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 9: just being named and suspended from the House for one day. 532 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: And it was a Thursday. Quite it was a Thursday too, 533 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: so it wasn't much happening on that in the House 534 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: on a Friday. Anyway. Seymour reckons that because of social media, 535 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: the electoral benefits to people from protest and doing things 536 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: like this far outway at any punishment, you know, and 537 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: with your TikTok moment, So maybe there is a case 538 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: to dop more pay or something like that, something more 539 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: severe or on the other hand, do you allow time 540 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: for a hacker if there's going to be a controversial bill, 541 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: you know. 542 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 9: Well, I think that's something that also the Speaker can consider. 543 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 9: I mean, over recent years when treaty settlements have been made, 544 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 9: they are important occasions and EWE often attend in significant 545 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 9: numbers and it's been a tremendous development that in consultation 546 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 9: with the Speaker, let's agreed that the EWI present can 547 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 9: perform a way to cup a Hacker event. And that's great. 548 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 9: You know, it's it's lovely to see it, it's lovely 549 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 9: to hear it, and it recognizes a Maori, a Maori 550 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 9: culture and traditions, and so there's no reason why that 551 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 9: couldn't be explored as well that where there's something that's 552 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 9: really really held deeply by Mary, that that could be 553 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 9: allowanced for some performance of a cultural activity. And there's 554 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 9: no reason why that couldn't happen. But it needs to be. 555 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 9: It can't be just jumped on the house. You can't 556 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 9: reach a surprise. 557 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: Is the surprise Hacker. I think that there was the 558 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: problem with Sir lockwood Smith, former Speaker, appreciate your time. 559 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: It is eight to six and his talk said. 560 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 6: Be the first word on the News of the Day 561 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 6: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's 562 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 6: Furniture Beds and a players Store, Youth Talks New Talks. 563 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: There'd be six away from sixty two food stuffs co 564 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: ops that are wanting to merge and the Commerce Commission 565 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: has said no, while they are going to appeal the 566 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: decision by the courts that that can't happen. Food Stuffs 567 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: North Island and food Stuff's South Island insists that merging 568 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: into a single national offerative will lower the checkout prices, 569 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: and the ComCom says no prices will go up. And 570 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: if you're a supplier, you basically only have two avenues 571 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: to sell your goods to as opposed to three, which 572 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: is the current makeup. And so we'll have to wait 573 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: and see what happens with that. It has just gone 574 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: five minutes away from six and Mic is here with 575 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: you next. Good morning, Good morning. 576 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 18: I got a piece on that this morning. The funny 577 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 18: thing about it is is that it depends on whether 578 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 18: you argue it in court on fact or whether you 579 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 18: argue it on the zeitgeist. Because the zeitgeist is that 580 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 18: groceryes are too expensive and they're all robber barons and 581 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 18: they're allout to rip us off, like airlines and telcos 582 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 18: and banks and all the other stuff. 583 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: So if you followed the. 584 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 18: Banks the other day, they're in front of a committee, 585 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 18: the Government committee, and they made some very cogent, sensible 586 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 18: arguments about their profit yeah, and what is it a superprofit? 587 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 18: What is a profit exactly? And who decides the Green Party? Yeah, 588 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 18: that the arbitrarily the Commist Commission's arbitrarily decided that if you, 589 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 18: if you, because it makes perfect sense to merge two 590 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 18: bits your company together. 591 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't it the synergy. 592 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 18: Efficiency and you can pass those efficiencies onto the punter. 593 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: But we just think key The key is though here 594 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: is that the ComCom has said that suppliers will have 595 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: fewer places to sell their goods. They have two in 596 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: seat of three. And what foodstuffs is is actually we 597 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: did not compete when buying groceries between our two entities 598 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: on different sides of the islands. 599 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 18: Here's the other thing. At at this very moment in Australia, 600 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 18: the same thing's going on. There's an investigation to supermakers 601 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 18: with the lawyer representing one of the players yesterday said 602 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 18: we're not land banking. We are not land banking. So 603 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 18: their regulatory authority goes, well you are, because look, you 604 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 18: own land. You haven't built a supermarket, and they go, well, 605 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 18: we own then we're going to build. 606 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: A At the end of the day, it is annoying 607 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: and it's probably not going to change anything. But you 608 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: do need to have your foot on the you know 609 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: what I mean, on the break a little what's your 610 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: foot on? Your foot is on the brake a little bit. 611 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: With these guys, do what to slow down? No, no, 612 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: just to kind of force. 613 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 18: Them to, albeit subtly, to be a bit more competitive. 614 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 18: Oh you think so well? The competition comes around from 615 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 18: more players in the. 616 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 9: Market, doesn't it. 617 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, we got to go all right. 618 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 6: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 619 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 6: to news Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 620 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 6: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.