1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: At stock houses. It's a Queenstown. Their economic boom continues. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: New data shows a six hundred percent surge and overseas 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: inquiries for luxury Queenstown properties. The active investor plus visa 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: is proving to be the golden ticket, with interests coming 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: from the likes of Poland and the Ukraine. Is buyers 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: seek refuge from conflict. So Cam well Winter is the 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: founder and managing director of Oliver Road Luxury real Estate 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: and is with us this morning. A luxurious good morning 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: to you. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Cam. Good morning Andrew. 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: What does a six hundred percent increase actually look like 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: in terms of numbers? 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: A good question. We're not talking about a huge sample size. 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: So I think we've gone from twelve to fifteen inquiries 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: from some of the jurisdictions that we don't previously hear from, right, 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: you know, up to the sort of fifteen sixties. 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: And those jurisdictions what Ukraine, Poland and the Soviet Bloc. 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I must have that the Soviet block ones 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: are still the least represented in the in the data, 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: but you know, with the likes of America, in the UK, 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: China and other places still accounting for the vast majority. 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: But previously we haven't had Frank I've never had an 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: acquiry from Poland, but large increases from Germany, from Switzerland, 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: none from France. 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: So what are they looking for mansions or are they 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: looking for normal houses that normal New Zealanders would like 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: to buy. 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's a bit of a mix, because with the 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: AIP stuff, you've got sort of two tranches of those people. 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 2: Of course, the first of which we're able to come 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: through from first of April last year, and those are 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: people who are actually moving to the country, and so 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: they are the same mix of people as we've previously 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: had moving to the country. The particularly well the ones 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: I mean privacy, security and longevity and quality. 36 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: And from what do you from what you've said to them, 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: what they've said to you, do they want to contribute 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: to the economy beyond just buying a house? 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? Interesting. They sort of fall into two camps, and 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: the first is certainly the majority, which are a lot 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: of these are very genuine people. A lot of them 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: have you know, formed connections with people all over the 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: world and and have in fact spent plenty of time 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: here as well. Be that and coincid itself or New Zealand. 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 2: So I think as much as as locals wouldn't want 46 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: them to do the opposite. These people don't want to 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: sort of, you know, buy a home here and and 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: spend such little time here that they sort of feel 49 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: like aliens. 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Well, this is right, This is what everyone is worried 51 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: about ghost houses. They buy a house here, but they 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: never live them. 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: About sixty percent of the properties that they're buying aren't 54 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: lived in anyway, regardless of who they are, who they 55 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: are owned by. But perhaps more importantly, I mean those 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: sixty percent are currently owned mostly by New Zealander's Australians, 57 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: and a small percentage of those based overseas. So he. 58 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: Cam, here's the thing, though, what does Queen Sound look 59 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: like in ten years? Will it just be a global 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: playground for the rich? 61 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: No? I mean the rich. The rich account for a 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: very small percentage of the actual population here, and the 63 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: homes that are being established and bought by the rich 64 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: are account for a very small percentage as well. I mean, 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: we're talking about several hundred properties in the scheme of 66 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: twelve fourteen thousand properties. That all of that money coming 67 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: in assists to the unfortunate reality, which is that our 68 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: economy is entirely reliant on growth. 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: Good only you came went a good day for business. 70 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: Obviously came as the founder and managing director of Oliver 71 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Road Luxury real Estate, who are seeing an increase in 72 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: business from Poland but not France. 73 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: news talks. 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