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Speaker 1: Looks like the reset with the Cooks is on. Our

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Speaker 1: Foreign minister was speaking last night to the Pacific Island

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Speaker 1: Political Science Association. He's looking to restate the parameters of

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Speaker 1: the current agreement. Winston Peter's, well, that's very good morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: You only real detail of what Brown signed and brought

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Speaker 1: back to the Cooks the other day?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I don't have any detail at all because

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Speaker 2: he released an over an arching document. But there were

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Speaker 2: other agreements that they have entered and that's not been

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Speaker 2: shown to either New Zealand or the Cook Island people.

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Speaker 1: There's something wrong. What's this problem? I mean, forget us

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Speaker 1: for a moment, but the Cook Island people. Some guy

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Speaker 1: goes off to China, brings it back and says, I'll

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Speaker 1: let you know when I'll let you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's that about.

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Speaker 2: Well, I suppose you and I are asking the same question.

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Speaker 2: But you know, if I go back to nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 2: a long long time ago, Norman Kirk had that problem,

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Speaker 2: and then in nine eighty six David Longe had that problem,

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Speaker 2: and in two thousand and one Helen Clark had that problem.

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Speaker 2: She sorted out with then prior Minister Doctor Mote of

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Speaker 2: the Cook Islands, and that was we've been working on

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Speaker 2: relying upon and the very deal and raceship we're relying upon.

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Speaker 2: And all we are saying is that's the deal we

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Speaker 2: have now. We want to be respected because we're responsible

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Speaker 2: to a group of people who are very important to

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Speaker 2: this country and any democracy. They're called the digial taxpayers.

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Speaker 1: Exactly China says it. Don't worry about it. It's all complementary.

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Speaker 1: Everything's good. Do you believe them?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know there's a famous business sort of principle.

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Speaker 2: It's called trust but verify. Yeah, I trust everybody, but

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Speaker 2: I check it out and make sure that what I'm

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Speaker 2: hearing is correct and right, and that I can account

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Speaker 2: to the Parliament of Issil if a mass question or

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Speaker 2: the people of Mozil with a mass questions.

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Speaker 1: I've read something the other day the Australians have a

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Speaker 1: tightest sort of agreement with us and with their issues

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Speaker 1: with Tabalu, they than the Solomons. They tightened up the agreement.

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Speaker 1: In other words, it's a more explicit agreement. Are we

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Speaker 1: going to need to go down that track.

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Speaker 2: Work? We shouldn't have to, you know, it's a thing

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Speaker 2: called respect. We have done enormous things for the realm countries.

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Speaker 2: We have been enormously responsible. We've made mistakes over the years.

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Speaker 2: We always do make mistakes, and that's the way life is,

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Speaker 2: and that's the way there are, say broadcasting in politics says,

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Speaker 2: but we've never stopped trying. And I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: think that this will treat this relationship as anything about

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Speaker 2: some of that New Zealand people can be enormously proud

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Speaker 2: about it. So yes, what I'm really saying to the

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Speaker 2: cook Ar leadership is you have to tell your people

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Speaker 2: because any change you might make, I'm responsible constitutionally to

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Speaker 2: ask your people first. They are in the end. I

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Speaker 2: know they're only voters, but they are the masters of

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Speaker 2: this business.

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Is it entirely possible that

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Speaker 1: if you can iron this out with Brown, what they've

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Speaker 1: signed is benign. In other words, it's not the end

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Speaker 1: of the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you could be right, but we should

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Speaker 2: have known beforehand, because that's the special relationship we have.

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Speaker 1: No God, Look, I don't disagree with you. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the Debbie Packer, did you see what you said on

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Speaker 1: the news about her arrival in the cock Islands the

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Speaker 1: other day.

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Speaker 2: Mister Hoskins, I'm asted in the as thund as you were.

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Speaker 2: Because we're sitting in Parliament, we're in the first few

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Speaker 2: weeks and she's on holiday. This is a person on

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Speaker 2: two and six thousand dollars a year, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: And I can tell you this. I've traveled extensively in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, but I spent more time in Parliament

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Speaker 2: over his one hundred and twelve days. I spend more

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Speaker 2: time in Parliament all the Maray Party members all put together.

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Speaker 2: Oh now that's a disgrace. Yes, Marrat people out there,

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Speaker 2: we're working seventy eighty hours a day a week and

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Speaker 2: working sometimes two or three jobs. I got to ask themselves,

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Speaker 2: are we being taking for a ride here?

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Speaker 1: When she arrived and she said she knew nothing of

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Speaker 1: the passport deal and she knew nothing of the China trip.

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Speaker 1: How do you explain that a person's inner Parliament and

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Speaker 1: knows nothing about her country or region far less of

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Speaker 1: the world. How does that happen? And are we being

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Speaker 1: well served when you're that naive.

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Speaker 2: Well coment of incredulity and not a stranger on your program?

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Speaker 2: But I can tell you there. What's the most remarkable

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Speaker 2: thing I thought was has she been numbed out or

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Speaker 2: she been in Nocoma for the last three weeks?

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Speaker 1: What do you do? I don't know. Anyway, that's democracy.

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Speaker 1: As you say, nice to talk to you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Winston Peter's the Foreign Minister.

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