1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:15,107 Speaker 2: Here's one the mean shot put at the latest Diamond 4 00:00:15,187 --> 00:00:16,187 Speaker 2: League of into Rome. 5 00:00:16,707 --> 00:00:21,707 Speaker 3: This is Tom Walsh, the New Zealander, still in great form. 6 00:00:21,747 --> 00:00:25,147 Speaker 3: It wash, that's pretty good as well, very close to 7 00:00:25,227 --> 00:00:28,147 Speaker 3: twenty two meters now, that would be as good as 8 00:00:28,147 --> 00:00:28,547 Speaker 3: he's done. 9 00:00:28,547 --> 00:00:29,667 Speaker 2: All yeah, so far. 10 00:00:30,187 --> 00:00:33,147 Speaker 3: Pointing to the camera, say there you go, Tom Walsh, 11 00:00:33,307 --> 00:00:37,027 Speaker 3: early on setting a mark here. One or two of 12 00:00:37,067 --> 00:00:39,627 Speaker 3: the big names have yet to really get the season going. 13 00:00:39,707 --> 00:00:43,107 Speaker 3: Twenty one eighty nine for the New Zealander. That puts 14 00:00:43,187 --> 00:00:44,147 Speaker 3: him in an early lead. 15 00:00:44,147 --> 00:00:46,507 Speaker 2: Here, which he held on to a season base twenty 16 00:00:46,547 --> 00:00:48,987 Speaker 2: one point eight nine meters for Tom Walsh, who joins 17 00:00:49,027 --> 00:00:51,787 Speaker 2: us now. Thanks for joining us, Tom, congratulations mate. How 18 00:00:51,787 --> 00:00:54,787 Speaker 2: do you evaluate what played out in Rome earlier tonight? 19 00:00:54,867 --> 00:00:55,307 Speaker 2: Your time? 20 00:00:56,307 --> 00:00:57,147 Speaker 4: Thank you? Thanks Pining. 21 00:00:57,387 --> 00:00:59,747 Speaker 5: Look, it was I was really happy with it. I 22 00:00:59,787 --> 00:01:03,627 Speaker 5: think will Chien Sashira in September so quite late. So 23 00:01:03,987 --> 00:01:05,347 Speaker 5: I think a lot of guys are in the same 24 00:01:05,347 --> 00:01:07,427 Speaker 5: boat with us, figuring out it out again, figuring out 25 00:01:07,467 --> 00:01:09,307 Speaker 5: how to make it go a long way. And you 26 00:01:09,347 --> 00:01:12,467 Speaker 5: know what I wanted from today's comp was to you know, 27 00:01:12,547 --> 00:01:15,107 Speaker 5: give myself six good good goals at throwing it a 28 00:01:15,147 --> 00:01:15,707 Speaker 5: long way. 29 00:01:15,627 --> 00:01:18,067 Speaker 4: And and that's exactly what I managed to do. Yeah 30 00:01:18,427 --> 00:01:18,747 Speaker 4: I did. 31 00:01:19,027 --> 00:01:22,147 Speaker 5: I did fiddle with one in round two that wasn't 32 00:01:22,147 --> 00:01:24,827 Speaker 5: the greatest, but the other five throws were a real 33 00:01:24,867 --> 00:01:26,867 Speaker 5: good roll of the dice and in a real good 34 00:01:26,867 --> 00:01:28,707 Speaker 5: attempt at making the ball go a long way. 35 00:01:28,787 --> 00:01:32,507 Speaker 2: So yeah, well twenty one eight nine was your was 36 00:01:32,547 --> 00:01:34,867 Speaker 2: your winning throw? That was your first throw? Is that 37 00:01:35,307 --> 00:01:37,307 Speaker 2: is that typical for you that you throw your furthest 38 00:01:37,307 --> 00:01:39,227 Speaker 2: on the first. 39 00:01:39,667 --> 00:01:43,027 Speaker 5: Uh, it's a real mixed bag with me, mate, So 40 00:01:43,747 --> 00:01:48,027 Speaker 5: it's really just whatever what really just whatever happens. So yeah, 41 00:01:48,227 --> 00:01:50,147 Speaker 5: as I said, I just wanted to have some good 42 00:01:50,227 --> 00:01:53,067 Speaker 5: cracks at the throwing a long way and that's exactly 43 00:01:53,107 --> 00:01:53,947 Speaker 5: what I managed to do. 44 00:01:54,027 --> 00:01:55,427 Speaker 4: I didn't manage to put them. 45 00:01:55,427 --> 00:01:58,107 Speaker 5: Together, but there was some real good parts of some 46 00:01:58,147 --> 00:02:00,347 Speaker 5: of the other throws and some some not so good parts. 47 00:02:00,387 --> 00:02:03,187 Speaker 5: So yeah, it was It's a good good comp mate, 48 00:02:03,227 --> 00:02:04,467 Speaker 5: good good step in the right direction. 49 00:02:04,587 --> 00:02:06,347 Speaker 2: Can you just unpack there for as Tom, you know 50 00:02:06,427 --> 00:02:08,267 Speaker 2: you've got your twenty one eight nine, so then for 51 00:02:08,307 --> 00:02:10,627 Speaker 2: the next five throws, So what sort of things are 52 00:02:10,667 --> 00:02:13,347 Speaker 2: you doing are you are you slightly tweaking things in 53 00:02:13,347 --> 00:02:14,907 Speaker 2: each of those? Just unpack that for us? 54 00:02:15,667 --> 00:02:18,747 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess what I'm trying to really do, mate, 55 00:02:18,867 --> 00:02:21,107 Speaker 5: is not try I'm trying to let it go. I'm 56 00:02:21,147 --> 00:02:25,467 Speaker 5: trying to essentially just attack it and have a good 57 00:02:25,507 --> 00:02:27,947 Speaker 5: crack at it, in a free crack at it, because 58 00:02:27,947 --> 00:02:29,987 Speaker 5: as soon as I start fiddling with things, which I 59 00:02:29,987 --> 00:02:33,307 Speaker 5: did in round two, it's never a good thing as 60 00:02:33,307 --> 00:02:36,587 Speaker 5: soon as I start trying. So it's just about you know, 61 00:02:36,787 --> 00:02:39,987 Speaker 5: trying to move without freedom and that flow state that 62 00:02:40,027 --> 00:02:43,787 Speaker 5: people talk about and try and make that shot put 63 00:02:43,827 --> 00:02:46,227 Speaker 5: go as far as it can without trying. 64 00:02:45,987 --> 00:02:48,987 Speaker 2: To have that's yeah, because I like shot put to 65 00:02:49,027 --> 00:02:50,187 Speaker 2: the most of us will be like, you've got to 66 00:02:50,187 --> 00:02:52,307 Speaker 2: give it everything. You've got to try as hard as 67 00:02:52,347 --> 00:02:54,347 Speaker 2: you possibly can. I know it's different for you. Is 68 00:02:54,387 --> 00:02:57,547 Speaker 2: that flow straight up flows? Is that flow state something 69 00:02:57,587 --> 00:03:00,587 Speaker 2: you can find yourself in more consistently now? 70 00:03:02,827 --> 00:03:05,427 Speaker 5: It's it's the ever elusive thing, right, So it's what 71 00:03:05,427 --> 00:03:08,067 Speaker 5: we're trying to get to all the time. And you know, 72 00:03:08,707 --> 00:03:11,547 Speaker 5: the first throw it was really close to being you know, 73 00:03:11,707 --> 00:03:15,747 Speaker 5: really good and nailing that flow state, but I just 74 00:03:15,787 --> 00:03:17,547 Speaker 5: didn't quite put it together the rest of the time. 75 00:03:17,707 --> 00:03:21,467 Speaker 5: So it's, yeah, it's the thing that we're all chasing, 76 00:03:21,467 --> 00:03:24,227 Speaker 5: the thing that we're all trying to do or trying 77 00:03:24,387 --> 00:03:25,867 Speaker 5: trying not to do, if that makes sense. 78 00:03:25,907 --> 00:03:28,067 Speaker 4: But it's it's just so tricky. 79 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:30,547 Speaker 5: It's just like in cricket, right, if you're a fast bowler, 80 00:03:30,587 --> 00:03:32,227 Speaker 5: it's when you're bowl in the fastest. 81 00:03:32,227 --> 00:03:34,147 Speaker 4: It's not when you're trying to bowl the fastest. It's 82 00:03:34,187 --> 00:03:36,387 Speaker 4: when your rhythm and your timing is on. 83 00:03:36,867 --> 00:03:38,867 Speaker 2: You know, looser flow state that a lot of athletes 84 00:03:38,867 --> 00:03:40,787 Speaker 2: are chasing. Well, it's a great result for you, Tom. 85 00:03:40,867 --> 00:03:43,227 Speaker 2: So you meet your World Champs in September. What about 86 00:03:43,227 --> 00:03:45,427 Speaker 2: between now and then, What's what's next for you? 87 00:03:46,667 --> 00:03:50,907 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I've actually got essentially two months off now 88 00:03:51,067 --> 00:03:54,507 Speaker 5: until I come back over to Europe and August. So 89 00:03:54,867 --> 00:03:57,227 Speaker 5: I've actually got two months in America training there and 90 00:03:57,827 --> 00:03:59,987 Speaker 5: kind of regrouping and doing a little bit of a 91 00:04:00,027 --> 00:04:03,267 Speaker 5: reload phase in the gym, along with probably some more 92 00:04:03,307 --> 00:04:06,667 Speaker 5: technical throwing stuff, but also you know, trying to get 93 00:04:06,667 --> 00:04:10,187 Speaker 5: into that into that you know, rhythm of throwing you 94 00:04:10,227 --> 00:04:14,387 Speaker 5: know well, and and trusting, trusting the work that we've 95 00:04:14,387 --> 00:04:16,547 Speaker 5: done and making it ball go a long way and 96 00:04:16,867 --> 00:04:20,027 Speaker 5: then I've got you know, four or five comps and 97 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:22,347 Speaker 5: back in back in Europe, you know, in August to 98 00:04:22,347 --> 00:04:24,107 Speaker 5: get ready to Tokyo in September. 99 00:04:24,587 --> 00:04:26,787 Speaker 2: And if you have you committed to Los Angeles twenty 100 00:04:26,787 --> 00:04:27,427 Speaker 2: twenty eight. 101 00:04:29,467 --> 00:04:31,027 Speaker 4: I sure have, mate. You've got to put up with 102 00:04:31,067 --> 00:04:32,187 Speaker 4: me for another four years. 103 00:04:32,267 --> 00:04:34,787 Speaker 2: There is nothing I would prefer more than chatting to 104 00:04:34,827 --> 00:04:36,627 Speaker 2: you for the next three or four years as we 105 00:04:36,747 --> 00:04:39,267 Speaker 2: head to Los Angeles. Congrats on what happened in Rome 106 00:04:39,307 --> 00:04:41,507 Speaker 2: this morning, Tom, awesome to watch it play out. Thanks 107 00:04:41,507 --> 00:04:42,107 Speaker 2: for the chat. 108 00:04:41,947 --> 00:04:44,427 Speaker 4: Mate cool, Thanks Bunny, No, thank. 109 00:04:44,307 --> 00:04:47,587 Speaker 2: You Tom, Tom whilst they're Diamond League champion in Rome 110 00:04:47,667 --> 00:04:50,307 Speaker 2: at twenty one point eight nine meters with his first throw, 111 00:04:50,467 --> 00:04:54,667 Speaker 2: the flow state, the elusive flow straighter flow state, If 112 00:04:54,707 --> 00:04:57,547 Speaker 2: I could say it, I love talking to athletes about 113 00:04:57,587 --> 00:04:59,467 Speaker 2: that when they get to the point where it just 114 00:04:59,507 --> 00:05:02,187 Speaker 2: all happens naturally for them. 115 00:05:02,587 --> 00:05:05,747 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 116 00:05:05,867 --> 00:05:09,147 Speaker 1: to News York Set B weekends from midday, or follow 117 00:05:09,187 --> 00:05:10,787 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.