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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's hither

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen? Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 1: Newstalk said, be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 2: We're going to chat to our Olympic chef to dimission

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Speaker 2: after five about yet another twist and the Canadian spying drama.

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Speaker 2: The Kardashians have given a massive plug to the Dnevan study.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a chat to the director and also Otago

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Speaker 2: Regional Council is going to explain to us what the

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Speaker 2: hell's going on with the Tamano or ti Wai stuff.

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Speaker 1: Hither Duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 2: So Andrew Costa has revealed he's not going to be

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Speaker 2: seeking a second term as police Commissioner, which I think

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Speaker 2: is going to upset almost no one. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think most of us are going to be happy to

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Speaker 2: see the back of them, aren't we, Because while he

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Speaker 2: absolutely does look like a decent and very very very capable,

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Speaker 2: smart guy, he's just been really rubbish at the job,

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Speaker 2: isn't he. I mean, I think for a start, this

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Speaker 2: is going to be great for police morale because they

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Speaker 2: have been quite vocal about the fact that they've been

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Speaker 2: quite unhappy about being led by a man who doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem to actually want to chase down the bad guys

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Speaker 2: quite as much as they do. But I also think

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Speaker 2: it's going to be good for public confidence too, because

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Speaker 2: I think we would all prefer to see a police

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Speaker 2: boss who wants to lock up the perpetrators of this

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Speaker 2: current crime problem that we're experiencing now. To be fair

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Speaker 2: to Andrew Costa, the fact that he's not seeking a

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Speaker 2: second term really isn't all that unusual historically for police bosses.

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Speaker 2: We haven't actually had one go much longer than six

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Speaker 2: years since about the nineteen forties. But the trouble for

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Speaker 2: him is that no one cares about that. What we

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Speaker 2: all care about is that everybody knows he isn't wanted

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Speaker 2: in the job, right. I mean that was made abundantly

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Speaker 2: clear when after the election the new Police Minister Mark

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Speaker 2: Mitchell published that letter telling Andrew Costa how to do

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Speaker 2: would have probably by now have had a little chat

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Speaker 2: to Mark Mitchell and have been told that ain't going

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Speaker 2: to happen mate now. To Costa's credit, he has lifted

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Speaker 2: his game under this new government. But it's never really

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Speaker 2: been convincing, has it, Because everything just happens so slowly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for example, the foot patrols in Auckland absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 2: able to get those foot patrols announced. And the crackdown

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Speaker 2: on the boy races again brilliant, happy to see it,

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Speaker 2: but first we had to witness officers and live in

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Speaker 2: retreating from a mob of wild boy racers, Like why

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Speaker 2: does it have to get to the point where you

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Speaker 2: desperately need the thing before the thing happens. This should

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Speaker 2: be obvious to a police boss to do this stuff.

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Speaker 2: It just never felt like being disciplined. Daddy was in

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Speaker 2: his nature. He was the soft guy. He's always going

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Speaker 2: to be the soft parent. So probably I think we've

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Speaker 2: just got the best outcome for everyone. By Andrew Costa

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Speaker 2: and the New Zealand Police consciously uncoupling in April next year.

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Speaker 1: Ever due for see Ellen's actually Sonny.

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Speaker 2: Koschel is going to be with us after ten past

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Speaker 2: five to tell us how he feels about that. And

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Speaker 2: I actually don't know what Sonny's going to say, so

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to hearing it. On another subject, and

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Speaker 2: independent report has revealed that Wellington Water staff took four

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Speaker 2: In May, the water company apologized for leaving councils with

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Speaker 2: a bill of an additional fifty one million dollars over

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Speaker 2: three years. You'll remember that. But the report has now

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Speaker 2: current budget. Now Nick Legett is on the Wellington Water Board.

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Speaker 2: He's the chair and he's with us. Now, Hey, Nick, Hi,

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Speaker 2: Heather Tanya Haskell has to go, doesn't she?

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Speaker 4: You know as well as I do that we can't

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Speaker 4: comment on individual employment, but I can tell you this,

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Speaker 4: but this review has shown us that we've got to

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Speaker 4: come up and be upfront and frank about them. And

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Speaker 4: we've got to improve our systems, particularly in the finance

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell me you've got confidence in her.

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Speaker 4: I've got confidence in the organization that it will be

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Speaker 4: Wellington has big long term challenges with water. We've got

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Speaker 2: It has explain something to me like if you can't

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Speaker 2: express confidence in her, what happens from here on in?

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Speaker 2: Is this something where you have to manage behind the

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Speaker 4: What happens now is that the Wellington Water Committee today.

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Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of Wellington Waters, but the committee,

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Speaker 4: which is that the mayors and councilors of the shareholding

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Speaker 4: councils met. They said to the board, thank you for

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Speaker 4: initiating the independent review. We agree that the review, we

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Speaker 4: the improvement plan that we want to see in four

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Speaker 4: get things right. Now, you never eliminate all risk, but

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Speaker 4: what we've got to do is do better and that

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, explain to me what happened on the first

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Speaker 2: and told you that you guys had this fifty one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, and she told me we have you know,

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Speaker 4: It looks as though we've underestimated or haven't haven't included

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Speaker 4: It takes a fee of every project that does for councils,

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Speaker 4: And then the board met the following week and were

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Speaker 4: interrogate this. It wasn't just a sort of a pass

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Speaker 2: What was the whole truth that you were not given.

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Speaker 4: Well, the extent of the problem. I'm not sure there

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Speaker 2: How many were on the first of maink You didn't

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Speaker 4: We had a number of nineteen million over sort of

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Speaker 4: just give me some context. Wellington Water delivered three hundred

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Speaker 4: fifty million seven years ago, so that the companies grown

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Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to step away from it, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I want to understand this though. So you

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Speaker 2: were told round about nineteen million over ten years, which

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Speaker 2: is manageable. You guys then interrogated it, and when did

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Speaker 4: Or not until probably the seventeenth or eighteenth when the

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Speaker 2: Okay, And when you were interrogating her between the first

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Speaker 4: Well, that's that's what I that's I think the level

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Speaker 4: culture in a kind of loose way, but specifically here

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Speaker 4: Come up again, and I can tell you this, Heather,

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Speaker 4: this time we're going to fix it up.

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Speaker 2: Good Nick. I'm pleased to hear it. Sounds like you've

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Speaker 2: got quite a job on your hands. Thanks mate. That's

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Speaker 2: Nick Leiget, Wellington Water Chair Hither. I wish it Adrian

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Speaker 2: bye bye, Debbie. I think everybody listening to this just

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Speaker 2: right for here here. Yeah, Adrian take the hint, mate,

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Speaker 2: But was stuck with them now anyway, because we've got

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Speaker 2: renewedn't they anyway? Twist in the Canadian Olympic drone spying scandal,

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Speaker 2: which everybody could see coming. There was more spying. What

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Speaker 2: did I tell you yesterday? If they're prepared to spy

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Speaker 2: on world number twenty eight, they are prepared to spy

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Speaker 2: as a result, the coach has been sacked from the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: which is massive because this is like, this will be

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Speaker 2: one of those pinnacles. Anyway, Darcy on that next sixteen past.

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Speaker 6: Four, digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper

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Speaker 6: c Allen Drive with one New Zealand one giant leap

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Speaker 2: Said Darcy Watergrave, sports talk hosters of me A, Darcy,

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Speaker 2: did I say to you yesterday the recidivus cheats?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Maybe I said that first. I'm not entirely sure, but we'll.

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Speaker 2: Both be right. Look way, cheating Canadian jewels is more.

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Speaker 8: It's like a bad television commercial, isn't it really? Hold on,

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Speaker 8: if you buy two of these, we'll give you a

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Speaker 8: third jeep for free.

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Speaker 7: What happens tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so just explains it to be. So the sent

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Speaker 2: Bev Bev the coach home bef.

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Speaker 8: The coach is gone for the duration of the Olympic game, which.

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Speaker 2: Is which is good, harsh punishment for her. But is

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Speaker 8: Not that, not that I'm aware of it. My things

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Speaker 7: They might.

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Speaker 8: But year two one, I wonder if the drone coverage

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Speaker 7: This is not a one off.

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Speaker 7: It will see yesterday, I believe it was.

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Speaker 8: That's you know what the dates are like, yes yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Has it got examples of them?

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Speaker 8: They were saying that the people involved you won't give

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Speaker 8: they've got first hand knowledge of it happening before they

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Speaker 8: This is not something that's just turned up out of nowhere.

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Speaker 8: I not the football team. So one's been seen home,

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Speaker 10: Thing to be doing.

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Speaker 2: Listen, imagine if this squad goes on to be in

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you that them down for drone watching sessions,

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Speaker 7: We're going to punish you.

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Speaker 8: In this guy's source, he said, look, you know you

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Speaker 2: If we can't even make the quarterfinals in rugby, what

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Speaker 8: that previously. Stop laughing, We know that previously. Our teams.

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Speaker 7: So I think that they probably won't go. Then we go.

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Speaker 7: You're sad because you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be tired, right, But what do

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Speaker 2: you do around man? Because nobody cares about placing fifth Darcy,

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Speaker 2: thank you appreciate it as Darcy water Grove Sports Store,

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Speaker 11: For thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Hard questions, strong opinion ever dup see Ellen drive with

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Speaker 2: Heither, you can't tell me the players knew nothing about

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Speaker 2: Canadian team need to be disqualified. They've got a competitive

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Speaker 2: got some bad news for you. Unfortunately, another member of

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Speaker 2: This is the family of the AFL star Dustin Martin.

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Speaker 2: He's had his visa canceled on character grounds earlier this

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Speaker 6: Headline's next, digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather

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Speaker 6: Duper c Allen Dry with one New Zealand let's get

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Speaker 2: What do you think this up?

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Speaker 10: It was beautiful?

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Speaker 1: The up her?

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Speaker 6: Are you coming?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a big, a big weekend for the Greens.

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Speaker 2: a discussion about Darlene and whether they should kick her

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Speaker 2: triggering the Waker jumping legislation, but I think they would

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Speaker 2: America's FBI chief has put a cat amongst the piginsy reckons.

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Speaker 2: He's not sure that Trump was actually hit by a bullet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Republicans are not stoked about that for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 2: Dan Michison will talk us through it.

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Speaker 13: Shortly.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty three away from five.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks. It'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister ben Yamin Netanya, who has met with

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 15: The former premier argued that that ruling was invalid because

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Speaker 2: And finally, no no, no, no, no, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business Dan.

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Speaker 2: Since the US correspondence with US, Hey Dan, Hello, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So Karla Harris is going quite hard on Israel, isn't she?

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Speaker 11: I think so. I mean, I think she's trying to

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Speaker 11: of what President Biden has said, that it's time to

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Speaker 10: But the question is is this going to happen on.

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Speaker 11: And should it happen? If Kamala Harris ends up being

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Speaker 2: And so was what was the meeting between Kamala Harrison

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Speaker 2: nit Yahu liked? Was it frosty.

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Speaker 11: I mean, she didn't show up yesterday because she was

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Speaker 2: But let's be honest about this. She could say she

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Speaker 2: wants to say a hit of the election, but if

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Speaker 2: she was to win and become the president, there is

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Speaker 2: no way she's pulling support for Israel Azo I don't.

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Speaker 10: Think so, no, no, the situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now, what's up with the FBI saying it wasn't

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Speaker 2: a bullet?

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Speaker 11: Well, isn't this kind of interesting because we've all seen

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Speaker 11: the pictures in the video and the ear bandage that

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump's got. But the FBI director Christopher Ray says

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Speaker 11: they're not sure whether a bullet actually struck a former

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Speaker 11: President Trump or if he was hit by shrapnel when

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Speaker 11: the gunman opened fire in Pennsylvania. So he says, I think,

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Speaker 11: and this is a quote he said, I think with

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Speaker 11: or not it's a bullet or shrapnel that actually hit

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Speaker 11: his ear. I don't think it really matters between us

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Speaker 11: right now at this point. Shrapnel obviously isn't as dramatic

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Speaker 11: as as Donald Trump telling the story of a bullet

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Speaker 11: barely missing him by whatever it was a tenth of

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Speaker 11: an inch or not. But again, this is just going

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Speaker 11: to stoke the fire of you know, mainstream media and

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was kind of interesting. It's fascinating that

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Speaker 2: he did this though, because it's like it's not like

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Speaker 2: the FBI have got the greatest relationship. All the authority's

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Speaker 2: got the greatest relationship with Donald Trump. So it's just

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Speaker 2: an ass. It's just buying an unnecessary fight, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: It kind of seems that way, especially when when Trump's

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Speaker 11: campaign released a doctor's note it is saying that he

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Speaker 11: did sustain this gunshot well into his ride ear and

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Speaker 11: it was less than a quarter of an inch from

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Speaker 11: ride ear. And then you have the head of the

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Speaker 11: FBI coming out and saying.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if he doesn't want to, if he

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Speaker 2: wants to keep all possible options open, he may as

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Speaker 2: well have included a WASP as well. You know, why not?

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Speaker 10: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It was just dumb we from him, wasn't it? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Listen Milanius Trump Trump's memoir. When is it out?

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Speaker 10: I well, it's going to be out this fall.

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Speaker 11: And I'm always fascinated about the timing of these books

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Speaker 11: and when they come out and why because she's been

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Speaker 11: she hasn't been a supportive of her husband this time around,

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Speaker 11: has she? And the office is billing this is a

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Speaker 11: powerful and inspiring story of a woman who has carved

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Speaker 11: her own path. My question is how much of this

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Speaker 11: is going to be fact? How much will be fiction?

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Speaker 11: How much did Donald Trump have to sign off before

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Speaker 11: this book got to be published. And what's also interesting

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Speaker 11: about this, Heather, is the book is going to be

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Speaker 11: published by a group called Skyhorse Publishing, and they released

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Speaker 11: books by former Trump insider Michael Cohen, who, as we

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Speaker 11: And we don't know how much she was paid to

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Speaker 11: or if she's going to hit the promotional trail ahead

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Speaker 11: of the November election. So, I mean, there's more that

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Speaker 11: we don't know about this book than we do know

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Speaker 11: about this book.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's going to be juicy?

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Speaker 10: No, I don't tell you because I think there's so much.

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Speaker 11: There's so much in a prenuptial agreement, that non disclosure

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Speaker 11: that she's I think there's going to be a lot

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Speaker 11: about her early childhood and up until the time maybe

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Speaker 11: she met Donald Trump. But I think all the stuff

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Speaker 11: we want to be in that book is not going

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Speaker 11: to be in.

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Speaker 2: That Yeah, it's so unfortunately. Think you're right, Dan, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, look after yourself this weekend. Dan Mitchinson,

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Speaker 2: our US correspondent, Hither that's the same thing, right, A

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Speaker 2: piece of a bullet is still a bullet. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're right, because obviously shrapnel is whatever's thrown out by

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Speaker 2: the projectile. But I guess the point that the FBI

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Speaker 2: boss was trying to make is if it's shrapnel, it's

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Speaker 2: a whole lot less kind of jeopardy, do you know, Like,

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Speaker 2: if it's a bullet, Trump nearly died. If it's not

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Speaker 2: a bullet, if it's strapnel, then Trump didn't nearly die,

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Speaker 2: and then we all have to just settle down a bit.

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Speaker 2: And God didn't save him. So it just makes the

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Speaker 2: story a whole lot less dramatic. That's what he's up to.

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Speaker 2: What a stupid thing to say. Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 2: Jason Wall's political editors in for Barry Sober Right now, Hey, Jason.

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Speaker 17: Afternoon had that.

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Speaker 2: So, how many of us are worried about Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: becoming the president?

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Speaker 17: Well, as it turns out, quite a few. This is

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Speaker 17: according to numbers from Talbot Mills, who are the Labor

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Speaker 17: Parties pollsters. However, this was not a poll from the

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Speaker 17: Labor Party. They didn't commission them. They just kind of

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Speaker 17: did this on their own volition. So essentially, Talbot Mills

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Speaker 17: went out to more than a thousand Kiwis and asked them,

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Speaker 17: if Donald Trump wins the US presidential election, how concerned

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Speaker 17: would you be. So it ranges from not concerned, which

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Speaker 17: is twenty one point three percent, then to slightly concerned

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Speaker 17: eight point nine percent, then to moderately concerned, where it's

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Speaker 17: eleven point eight. Now it gets interesting, Very concerned is

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Speaker 17: fourteen point three and then all the way it extremely

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Speaker 17: concerned is thirty nine point three percent. Now, Donald Trump

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Speaker 17: is a polarizing figure, so I wouldn't expect this. This

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Speaker 17: isn't particularly that surprising to me. I did expect about

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Speaker 17: this level of either very concerned or extremely concerned. But still,

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Speaker 17: I mean, anything forty percent is quite a lot. Now,

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Speaker 17: it went on to actually talk to the people that

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Speaker 17: are polled as well about if Donald Trump loses the

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Speaker 17: US presidential election but whips up conflict, whips up conflict

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Speaker 17: with claims that he was robbed, and how concerned people

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Speaker 17: would be there A little bit different here, it was

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Speaker 17: only fourteen point nine percent of people said that they

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Speaker 17: were extremely concerned, and the majority of people some of

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Speaker 17: the people polled here thirty one point seven percent said

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Speaker 17: that they were slightly concerned. So there's some interesting numbers

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Speaker 17: in here. But I will note that these numbers are

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Speaker 17: from early last months, so it was before the shooting.

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Speaker 17: It was before Trump was actually confirmed as the presidential

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Speaker 17: candidate for the Republican Party, and obviously before Joe Biden

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Speaker 17: withdrew from the Democratic candidacy and Carmala Harris was the

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Speaker 17: of water on the bridge since these numbers came out,

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Speaker 17: but it's a good base level to kind of get

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Speaker 17: a vibe of what New Zealanders are thinking about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 17: And I know what you're going to ask next, what

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Speaker 17: about the numbers for Kamala Harris. Well, we haven't had

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Speaker 17: them yet, so I'll see what Talbot Mills thinks about

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Speaker 17: those soon.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't actually what I was going to ask next.

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Speaker 2: It was going to be the third question though. The

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Speaker 2: second question was going to be and what are Kiwi's

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Speaker 2: concerned about? What is it that that's are extremely concerned about?

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Speaker 17: Well, it's a good point, and unfortunately this poll doesn't

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Speaker 17: actually go into that, but you can look at some

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Speaker 17: of the I know in the past, people have talked

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Speaker 17: about Donald Trump's rhetoric and probably, I mean tangibly, the

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Speaker 17: biggest thing New Zealanders would have to be worried about

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Speaker 17: is increased trade tariffs to the United States, because that

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Speaker 17: is probably the thing that actually will impact us.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jason, doesn't this show how deranged we are about him?

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Speaker 2: I mean, here, we aren't talking about him increasing trade

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Speaker 2: tariffs when that is exactly what Joe Biden has just done.

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Speaker 1: Oh exactly.

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Speaker 2: And that's why God's of a feather. But apparently we

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Speaker 2: freak out about one more than the other.

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Speaker 17: And that's why I come back to this idea about

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Speaker 17: the rhetoric that's that Trump is that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So you know who.

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Speaker 2: They thousands of people that know that's right. Yeah, take

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Speaker 2: a shell pell you guys. Hey, the AGM, the Greens AGM,

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Speaker 2: which is kicking off tomorrow, are they actually going to

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Speaker 2: vote on this walker jumping stuff?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 18: Interesting?

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Speaker 17: So technically no, there's not going to be a quote

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Speaker 17: unquote vote about the walker jumping stuff, but there is

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Speaker 17: going to be a conversation. And you know, normally minor

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Speaker 17: parties agms aren't really particularly exciting, but because of the

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Speaker 17: Dahli and Tana saga. This is actually quite a note.

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Speaker 17: I mean, she's certainly gone from the Greens, but not forgotten,

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Speaker 17: and her shadow is looming large as they meet down

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Speaker 17: there in christ Church this week. And I spoke to

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Speaker 17: Chloe Swarbrick about this today and I asked her exactly that.

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Speaker 17: I said, is this something going to be over shadowing

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Speaker 17: the Greens?

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Speaker 2: Jason? Are you are you? Have you stuffed something like?

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Speaker 17: I know that that was Chloe Swarbrick saying that she

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Speaker 17: worried about the this overshadowing the Greens.

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Speaker 3: It's a novel and an interesting of circumstances.

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Speaker 17: And in terms of I mean, what will obviously be

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Speaker 17: the elephant in the room throughout the whole agm the

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Speaker 17: Darling and Tana saga, the walker jumping legislation. Could you

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Speaker 17: just walk me through the process of what's happening this weekend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, not so much the elephants in the

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Speaker 17: Industry so so, I mean, I technically she's right, it

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Speaker 17: it is probably going to be the elephant in the

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Speaker 17: room here. What's happening behind these quite closed doors is

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Speaker 17: quite significant. The Greens are very, very democratic, but I'm

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Speaker 17: told it's not going to be a simple yes no

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Speaker 17: vote over the waker jumping legislation.

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Speaker 2: This weekend.

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Speaker 17: Members will have to have a discussion session where their

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Speaker 17: party will talk about what will happen if she doesn't resign,

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Speaker 17: which is the current situation we're in at the moment.

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Speaker 17: So it's a big wait and see. We do know

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Speaker 17: that there is going to be a conversation about it

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Speaker 17: tomorrow and then Chloe's going to come out and tell

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Speaker 17: us all about that. But we're in un childed territory

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Speaker 17: if they do want to walk a jump her, because

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Speaker 17: you know, good f Shatama, it didn't happen with him,

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Speaker 17: Jamie Lee Ross, Elizabeth Carey, Carey, Meca, Fake Deddy, none

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Speaker 17: of these people will walker jump, so if they are,

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Speaker 17: it is triggered. It's going to be interesting to see

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Speaker 17: how this plays out.

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Speaker 2: I reckon they can get away with it, because I

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Speaker 2: don't reckon most people care. What do you think? Most

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Speaker 2: people just want to see the back of Darling because

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Speaker 2: it's clear she's just bilking that teat.

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Speaker 17: Oh and I agree, and I think that's something that

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Speaker 17: they'll be talking about. I mean, the Walker jumping conversation

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Speaker 17: was so twenty eighteen. They're looking at what's happening here

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Speaker 17: and now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you and I care. We can see

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Speaker 2: the hypocrisy in it, but I think they'll get away

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Speaker 2: with it. Jason th thank you very much. We'll chat

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Speaker 2: to you again. Wrap the political week at quarter pass.

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Speaker 2: As Chason Wall's political editor Heather, bullets don't just fall

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Speaker 2: apart if you've got a direct line of sight from

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Speaker 2: the shooter to the target. The question is what caused

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Speaker 2: the bullet to break up? If there was shrapnel, Luke,

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Speaker 2: very good question. You why don't you ask that FBI

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Speaker 2: guy that just digging himself a bigger hole then in

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Speaker 2: and if he starts talking about it. Eight away from five,

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Speaker 2: putting the.

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Speaker 1: Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 12: The government's moving on interventionist courts over customary rights to coastlines,

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Speaker 12: basically taking it back to what it was before the

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Speaker 12: courts got involved in the first place. Just as Minister

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Speaker 12: Paul Goldsmith is, well.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's very much about the right thing to do.

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Speaker 5: What we're doing is.

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Speaker 10: Reasserting that all New Zealanders.

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Speaker 18: Have interest in what happens in the postal and marine areas.

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Speaker 4: That we also recognized customary marine.

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Speaker 18: Title through the legislation. The Parliament always set a very high.

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Speaker 1: Bar for that.

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Speaker 18: It does give valuable rights, and so we set a

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Speaker 18: high threshold in the legislation. The courts materially reduced that threshold,

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Speaker 18: and that's why we're making the unusual step of overriding

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Speaker 18: the courts and restating what we thought was quite clear.

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Speaker 12: Back Monday, from six am, the mic asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 12: Jaguar News Talk.

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Speaker 2: ZEV five away from five Heather, my family just got

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Speaker 2: a new puppy. It won't do a single thing that

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Speaker 2: it's been told, so we called it Darlene. I do

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Speaker 2: enjoy that. That's actually a good name. I would have

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Speaker 2: gone Darleen Tana for the name, to be honest. When

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Speaker 2: I had a cat, I had to deport the cat.

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Speaker 2: I had to five oh, won the cat to my

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Speaker 2: mum's house because my husband hated the cat too much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a deeply dysfunctional thing that happened. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: I got rid of the cat. The cat's name was

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Speaker 2: Gareth Morgan. I feel like you need to. You need to.

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Speaker 2: Cat's name remains Gareth Morgan to this day. I feel

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Speaker 2: like you need to give your dog a double name.

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Speaker 2: Darlene Tanner is the puppy's name, Heather. Here we go.

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Speaker 2: This is an explanation for why it might have been

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Speaker 2: Trappnel Heather. The five point five to six millimeter that

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Speaker 2: the shooter used is designed to break up. The US

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Speaker 2: military designed it that way to get around the Geneva convention. Scott,

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Speaker 2: thanks for explaining that. Listen. The Kardashians. The Kardashians have

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Speaker 2: featured some of our Dunedin researchers on their TV show

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Speaker 2: Was It Last Night? Laura played out last night? Have

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Speaker 2: a listen.

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Speaker 19: We're doing a blood test to check our biological age.

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Speaker 19: I feel pretty good about mine. It would be very

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Speaker 19: ego boosting if I was younger than my regular age.

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Speaker 2: So what this test does is it actually looks at

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Speaker 2: you can say how we old your body is, but

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Speaker 2: what is your actual physical age, your biological age. So

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Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian and her mum, and her sister and her

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Speaker 2: brother in law all took this test and Kim got

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Speaker 2: the good news that in fact, she is ten years

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Speaker 2: younger than she actually is.

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Speaker 10: I'm thirty four.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, Oh god, it's the Kardashians. But you

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Speaker 2: can't pay for that kind of exposure. So we have

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Speaker 2: a chat too. This is, by the way, being developed.

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Speaker 2: The science is developed by the Dunedin Study. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to have a chat to the director of the

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Speaker 2: Dunedin Study in about twenty minutes, talk about how awesome

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Speaker 2: this is. It's unfortunate though, when you have to have

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Speaker 2: like really stupid sounding people pitch your stuff. Anyway, never mind,

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Speaker 2: it's no reflection on you. Nigel Avery, the Chef de

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Speaker 2: mission is with us out of Paris next to talk

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Speaker 2: us through So what we're going to do about those

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Speaker 2: Canadian cheeks because I still want them to forfeit their points.

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Speaker 2: Fourfit their points and also Sunny kochel On, you know

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Speaker 2: how happy he is on a scale of one to ten.

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Speaker 2: To see the back of Andrew Costa as early as

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Speaker 2: April next year, news talks ab.

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Speaker 7: Of this time lasted.

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Speaker 1: You there are along the only Drive show you can

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Speaker 1: trust to ask the questions, get the answers by the facts,

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Speaker 1: and give the analysis. Heather due to Celum Drive with

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Speaker 1: one new Zealand. Let's get connected and news talk as

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Speaker 1: the'd be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon. Well, the Olympics proper are about to

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Speaker 2: kick off. The opening ceremony is just slightly more than

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Speaker 2: twelve hours away now, and these guys are going to

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Speaker 2: go large, right, instead of their traditional parade around the

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Speaker 2: stadium track, they're going to have more than eight thousand

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Speaker 2: athletes from around the world boating down the river sent

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Speaker 2: There will be floating pianos, there will be helicopters, There

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Speaker 2: may even be some submarines. The Olympic in Zen Shift mission.

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Speaker 2: Nigel Avery is with me right now. Hey, Nigel, Hey,

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Speaker 2: how's it going. I'm very well, thank you? Are you

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Speaker 2: fizzling for this?

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Speaker 1: Here we are?

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Speaker 20: It's it's just going to be so unique.

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Speaker 21: The first time either and I think certainly has been

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Speaker 21: held outside of stadium, so it's going to be very

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Speaker 21: interesting to see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's obviously a little bit more risk involved

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Speaker 2: being on a boat. Are you slightly concerned about your

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Speaker 2: athletes here?

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Speaker 20: Look?

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Speaker 21: I don't think so. You know, the freature just going

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Speaker 21: out of their way to make sure that the ATHLETs

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Speaker 21: are safe in all respects, and you know, I've got

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Speaker 21: confidence in that. We've we're on the one of the

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Speaker 21: tributes of the scene. Here, we are on the scene

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Speaker 21: at the village and you know, there's police boats cruising

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Speaker 21: up and down all the time. And you know, we

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Speaker 21: had a briefing yesterday about the opening ceremony, what what

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Speaker 21: that would look like, Not but the content, I guess,

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Speaker 21: but more about the you know, the guts of it.

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Speaker 21: And you know, there's definitely there's there's there's medical, there's

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Speaker 21: the security, there's all sorts of stuff around.

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Speaker 10: Literally, wasn't worried about security.

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Speaker 2: I was worried about falling off the boat.

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Speaker 21: Nigel, Well, look at the Dry Games, you know, so

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Speaker 21: there's at least there and there's no Tom Follery. Look, no,

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Speaker 21: I think there's life jakes for every person. So they're

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Speaker 21: taking it pretty seriously.

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Speaker 2: Hey, do you know yet? I mean, we have been

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Speaker 2: having these reports and rumors for days now that Celine

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Speaker 2: Dion and Lady Gaga in town and might be performing.

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Speaker 2: Do you know.

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Speaker 21: We haven't. I haven't heard those rumors, So I'm not sure.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're looking for.

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Speaker 2: All right, what are we going to do about the Canadians?

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Speaker 2: Are they going to dock them the points from winning

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Speaker 2: the game this morning.

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Speaker 22: Look, I don't know.

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Speaker 21: So we have or Football New Zealanders later complaint with FIFA,

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Speaker 21: and so they're going through the process. The Canadians are investigating.

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Speaker 21: There's a process there, and they've also asked the IOC for,

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Speaker 21: you know, to see what they're going to do. We've

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Speaker 21: also mentioned it to the Ethics Committee, and so we're

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Speaker 21: just waiting for all those those bodies to to follow

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Speaker 21: the approach. And at the moment, we kind of all

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Speaker 21: we can do is just ask for hey, how is

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Speaker 21: it going, you know, because a status on on things,

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Speaker 21: there's not really much more we can do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how long do we have to wait?

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Speaker 10: Though?

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Speaker 2: I mean, because we can, like tell me, Nigel, if

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Speaker 2: these guys, I mean they won last time, right because

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Speaker 2: the gold medal last time. We can't seriously end up

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Speaker 2: in a situation with them standing on the podium when

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Speaker 2: they have been busted cheating, can we.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 21: It's a it's a bit of a complex situation, right that,

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Speaker 21: because we're really at the whim of FIFA and the IOC. So,

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Speaker 21: as I said, all we can really do now is

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Speaker 21: to keep on asking for hey, what is happening and

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Speaker 21: hope that they come to some sort of resolution whatever

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Speaker 21: that may be, you know, prior to poor play finishing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not sufficient what they've done with Bev

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Speaker 2: Priestman sending a home that's not sufficient, right, you need

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Speaker 2: the points docked.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's not really up up to me.

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Speaker 21: It's it's up to you know what that what the

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Speaker 21: FIFA and what the io C you have, because I

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Speaker 21: guess the issue is that it's not a it's not

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Speaker 21: a fef for tournament. It wasn't in the field of play,

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Speaker 21: and so there's everybody's trying to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 21: what your jurisdiction this falls under. So there's I guess

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Speaker 21: there's a bit going on behind the scenes and we

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Speaker 21: just have to wait and see how that plays out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Now what happened with the sevens team?

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Speaker 2: Is this bad juju for the games?

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Speaker 21: No, it's not bad judo for the games at all.

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Speaker 21: I mean, obviously we're extremely disappointed, you know, for the guys.

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Speaker 21: It's certainly not the result they wanted. All we did either,

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Speaker 21: and you know, sometimes in sport, little moments if they

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Speaker 21: don't go your way, or if an era is made

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Speaker 21: or either it can have a quite a significant impact

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Speaker 21: on the result and it seems like that's what's happened,

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Speaker 21: you know last night our time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Nigel, listen, go well and I hope

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Speaker 2: you guys are all in a huge number of medals.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. That's Nigel Avery shift a

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Speaker 2: mission Olympics New Zealand. It's ever I need to say,

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Speaker 2: by the way, the reason that the sevens team were

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Speaker 2: out is because they were going to equalize, right there

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Speaker 2: was possible they're going to equalize because Leroy Carter was

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Speaker 2: on a rip to the triline at one stage, but

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Speaker 2: then his toes literally his toes brushed the touch line.

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Speaker 2: Sports Hitle is going to be with us later this

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Speaker 2: hour to talk through it now. As you know, Andrew

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Speaker 2: cost has revealed he's not going to be seeking a

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Speaker 2: second term as Police Commissioner, which means he will do

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Speaker 2: his last day in the job April next year. He's

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Speaker 2: been pretty controversial in the role because he took an

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Speaker 2: extreme policing biken sent approach under j sinda Ardun's government.

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Speaker 2: Sonny Carcial is the president of the Crime Prevention Group

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Speaker 2: and with us, Hey, Sonny.

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Speaker 13: Very good After head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you happy to see the back of him.

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Speaker 13: Look, I have a lot of respect for the uniform personally,

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Speaker 13: and I see that the now we need a police

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Speaker 13: commissioner with a different approach and direction. So we are

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Speaker 13: looking forward to working with a new police commissioner who

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Speaker 13: could bring back to basics of policing, you know, in

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Speaker 13: a way that broken windows approach policing contributed and making

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Speaker 13: New York safer and the great month a police chief,

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Speaker 13: he turned around a failing police force in just two

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Speaker 13: years into our globle Britain's best So.

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Speaker 2: What would a broken windows approach in New Zealand look like?

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Speaker 13: See, every crime is to be investigated, no matter how small,

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Speaker 13: and police must attend every burglary. That sends a message

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Speaker 13: to the police that the police have their back and burglars,

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Speaker 13: you won't get away with it, you know. So we

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Speaker 13: and also we need a commissioner who would put the

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Speaker 13: rights of our community to live crime free ahead of

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Speaker 13: the rights of criminals and who would support the tougher

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Speaker 13: line on criminals that all three parties in the coalition

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Speaker 13: government campaigned on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so did you see that story out of

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Speaker 2: Cohen Maarama and au cland this week where somebody went

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Speaker 2: into the local liquor store. Couple of guys, one of

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Speaker 2: them looked off with some bottles. They managed to get

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Speaker 2: the other one hold them down on the ground and

874
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Speaker 2: the cops took an hour and a half to turn

875
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Speaker 2: up and kept telling them to let the guy. God

876
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: you see that.

877
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 13: Yes, yeah, So those are things needed to be changed.

878
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 13: You know, we need to look at the criminal the

879
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 13: citizens arrest powers changed, and we need to also look

880
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 13: at the defense of the property l and need to

881
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 13: be changed. And you know, the last government proved that

882
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 13: cuddling criminals does not work and the lawlessness that followed

883
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 13: cost lives and livelihoods. So we are still facing that

884
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 13: results until today. This needs to be changed.

885
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Speaker 2: Sonny, it's good to talk to you. Thank you very

886
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Speaker 2: much about the Sunny cause of the Crime Prevention Group.

887
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Speaker 2: President hither we want Richard Chambers. Well, interesting that you

888
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: say that on the text right now, because it is

889
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: rumored that Mark Mitchell also really wanted Richard Chambers. If

890
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: you cast your mind back to when he first came in,

891
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 2: there was this rumor that went around Wellington and basically

892
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: reached everybody that in fact Mitch was quite keen to

893
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: get rid of cost and replace him with Richard Chambers,

894
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: who was an assist commissioner at the time. Unfortunately, Richard

895
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: Chambers got a job at Interpol this year, so I

896
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Speaker 2: imagine he's probably still If he was the list, then

897
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: he's probably still top of the list. The question is

898
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 2: will he be wanting to come back hither. I don't

899
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: want a tit for tat, but the five point five

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Speaker 2: six I love a tit for tat. You come at

901
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: me with it. The five point five to six round

902
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: is designed to break up only once it's inside you,

903
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: and not when it's in the air in flight. Luke,

904
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: thank you for that quarter past. Hey, what have these

905
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Speaker 2: guys all got in common? The Order of Saint John,

906
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Speaker 2: New Zealand, blood ASB Bank, Meridian Energy, Downers Waste Management,

907
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Speaker 2: and Genesis Energy. They are all trusted brands, obviously, but

908
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: they also all drive BYDS. Now BYD is the world's

909
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: largest and greenest new energy vehicle manufacturer. These guys have

910
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: got a mission to cool the Earth by one degree,

911
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: and so far they've saved over sixty billion kilograms of

912
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: CO two, which is pretty much equal to planting over

913
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: a billion trees. And why are all these fleets choosing

914
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 2: BYD well BYD and New Zealand have dedicated fleet managers

915
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: who understand what's needed to keep your cars on the

916
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 2: road and your driver is happy. BYD's got its own

917
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: panel repair network all around the country. The cars are reliable,

918
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: they are spectacular to drive, and of course there's the

919
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: dot savings because running bydevs is equal to paying forty

920
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: cents per liter on your fleet, and the costs of

921
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: maintenance are only twenty five percent of traditional combustion cars.

922
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: So check out more info at BYD auto dot co

923
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Speaker 2: dot MZ.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy l's in past.

925
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Speaker 2: Five Yes, Heather Richard Chambers is coming back. Well, if

926
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Speaker 2: it's true. I don't know if that's true. But if

927
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Speaker 2: it's true, you heard it first. I'm going to take

928
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Speaker 2: the credit for that. Thank you to the text machine.

929
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Speaker 18: Now.

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Speaker 2: The Kardashians episode the season finale that screened last night

931
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Speaker 2: featured some New Zealand research.

932
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Speaker 19: We're doing a blood task to check our biological age.

933
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Speaker 19: I feel pretty good about mine. It would be very

934
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Speaker 19: ego boosting if I was younger than my regular age.

935
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Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian and her mum and her sister and her

936
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Speaker 2: brother in law all took the test that determined their

937
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Speaker 2: real biological age. Kim Kay came in ten years younger

938
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Speaker 2: than what she thought she was. The science behind the

939
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Speaker 2: test is an algorithm that was developed by the scientists

940
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Speaker 2: of the Dunedin Study and the director there, doctor Moljuana Theodore,

941
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Speaker 2: is with us now.

942
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Speaker 3: Hey, Muhammawana oh cura, Hello heba, thanks for having me on.

943
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Speaker 2: Yeh, thank you. Did you watch the episode?

944
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Speaker 13: Look?

945
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Speaker 3: I did?

946
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Speaker 2: Did you watch the thing? And how are you after that?

947
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Speaker 3: I didn't watch the whole thing, but I definitely watched

948
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Speaker 3: the part where the Kardashians were told about their pace

949
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Speaker 3: of aging.

950
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Speaker 2: Strikes me that you might be a little too smart

951
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Speaker 2: for that show. All right, how does this thing work?

952
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Speaker 13: Yeah?

953
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: So, in terms of the pace of aging, it's a

954
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Speaker 3: tool that we created at the Dunedin Study, which is

955
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Speaker 3: a study of one thousand babies born fifty two years

956
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: ago that's been been run in Dunedin since then. So,

957
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Speaker 3: and what we have been looking at over the last

958
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Speaker 3: two decades with our study members is biological aging. And

959
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Speaker 3: so that is different to your chronological age, your birthday.

960
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: Biological aging looks at your whole body and through that

961
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Speaker 3: research we were able to create this tool called the

962
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Speaker 3: Dunedan pace and that is a pace of aging tool

963
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Speaker 3: which the card Deaths then used. So we've been able

964
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Speaker 3: to use the science. It's wonderful aging science that we

965
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Speaker 3: do here in New Zealand and in Dunedan to be

966
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Speaker 3: able to create these tools that then other people can

967
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Speaker 3: use around the world. We thought scientists and researchers, but

968
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Speaker 3: here we have the Kardashians using it as well.

969
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Speaker 2: Can can I do it?

970
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Speaker 13: Can?

971
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Speaker 2: Can people listening to this doward?

972
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Speaker 22: Yeah?

973
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Speaker 3: So I mean it's actually for scientists and researchers. It

974
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Speaker 3: is being used around the world and scientific studies in

975
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Speaker 3: the algorithm is freely available, so it's open access for.

976
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Speaker 2: You get a blood test done by somebody if I

977
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Speaker 2: want to do it.

978
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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, that's right. So individuals though in the public

979
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: that are interested to do it can get their blood.

980
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Speaker 3: So if you watch the episode of the Kardashians, they

981
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Speaker 3: used a pin practice to get the BUD through the

982
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: same company that they used for True Diagnostics, and they

983
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Speaker 3: will look at your data and then send your or report.

984
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Speaker 3: So it is available online for the Jaws as well.

985
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: Have you done it.

986
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 3: Have I done it?

987
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 23: Oh?

988
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: Look, I actually have not.

989
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: How could you run this temptation?

990
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Speaker 3: I have planned to do it. I'm recently. I became

991
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: director last year. But we do do a lot of

992
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: work with the pace of aging, the research itself, and

993
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: we know it's being used worldwide. So look at this

994
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: question of actually how can we support people to age

995
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: better and what sort of supports can we put in place.

996
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: So we've sort of been focusing a lot on the

997
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: science and of course at the moment we have our

998
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Speaker 3: wonderful study members who started coming back in at the

999
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Speaker 3: age fifty two assessments in April.

1000
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Speaker 2: So fascinating. Want to thank you for your time, appreciated,

1001
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: Doctor Muana, Theater, Dunedin, Study Director. Yeah, the Kardashians will

1002
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: have done them wonderful pr around the world. So there's

1003
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: as much as we may take the mickey out of

1004
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: the out of them, like how strange is it that

1005
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 2: Kim K's age thirty three may also be her IQ

1006
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: Thank you, John, we still have to respect the fact

1007
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: that they've made a lot of money and they're very

1008
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: famous and they've done very well at what they do.

1009
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: Now listen on another subject altogether, have you seen what

1010
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: the Presbyterians have been up to. Ooh, that's not a

1011
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: good look. I'll tell you about that in the next

1012
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: half hour, I think five twenty two.

1013
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers talk to Heather First, Heather dupleic Allen

1014
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and news talk.

1015
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: Z be five twenty five. Listen, I have got some

1016
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: good economic news for you, and let's be honest about it.

1017
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: We frankly need this right. It looks like, as predicted,

1018
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: we may actually be through the worst of the economic downturn.

1019
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: And I say this because A and Z has just

1020
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: put out a survey today showing that consumer confidence has

1021
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: turned a corner and bounced back. It's still low. I mean,

1022
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: let's not get too excited, right, It's still low. Things

1023
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: are still gloomy. We're probably in recession, I don't know,

1024
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 2: or at least in a really really bad place at

1025
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: the moment. So everything is still a bit sucky, but

1026
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: it looks like we're on the way up. So the

1027
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: consumer confidence has gone up five points last month, and

1028
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: when people were asked whether they currently feel better off financially,

1029
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: that went up four points, just a little bit, still

1030
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: in negative territory but going up. And when asked whether

1031
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: they think they're going to be better off this time

1032
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: next year, it went up twelve points and it now

1033
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: sits in positive territory and next twenty people sorry, twenty

1034
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: percent of people say yep, they're going to be better

1035
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: off next year. Now, obviously one survey by itself doesn't

1036
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: mean anything, but look at all the other stuff that's

1037
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: going on. We had that massive fall and inflation last week.

1038
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: It's now just above the target range of one to

1039
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: three percent. That means we are now talking about a

1040
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: cut in the ocr Not in May next year, not

1041
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: in February next year, not even necessarily in November this year.

1042
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: We are now talking about possibly even October, which is

1043
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: maybe only three months away. And we've already seen the

1044
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: mortgage rates start to fall, right. Westpac cut its rates

1045
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: again this week for the second time in three weeks, which,

1046
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: to be fair, brings it in line with the other banks,

1047
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: but still as a sign of what's happening, right, you

1048
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: cannot underestimate the impact, and this is the final thing.

1049
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: You cannot underestimate the impact of the fact that we're

1050
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: also through the worst of winter. We have the years

1051
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: short stay behind us. We've got the summer ahead of

1052
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: us that has a mass of impact on how we

1053
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: feel inside our heads. And this is great stuff, isn't it?

1054
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Because we're gloomy? I mean, I don't begrudge us for

1055
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: being gloomy. We're right to be gloomy. It's been hard.

1056
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: If it is hard, you're entitled to feel like it's hard.

1057
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: You're entitled to feel a bit grumpy about it. But

1058
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: hopefully everything that we've seen in the last couple of weeks,

1059
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: including the survey, suggests that the gloominess is about to

1060
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: lift and we're through the hardestpit already. How good would

1061
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: that be toge do? Hey, those astronauts, remember the astronauts

1062
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: who went up with Boeing. They're stuck now. We don't

1063
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: know when they're going to come back. So I'll give

1064
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: you the details on that shortly. We're going to talk

1065
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: to Mastadome astronomer about it.

1066
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 23: Now.

1067
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: The All Blacks have made the news in the last

1068
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: little bit because they are currently too cool to be

1069
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: giving interviews. You will have heard this. You will have

1070
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: heard this on Mike's show. Mike's been talking about it

1071
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: this week and it's made the Herald today. It's basically

1072
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: started because Mike gave them a crack because the All

1073
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 2: Blacks are just, you know, like they're too big deal

1074
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: to be bothered doing interviews and you know, talk the

1075
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: day before a test and stuff like that, and he's

1076
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: called them out for it. And he's right too, because

1077
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: like we've had the same experience on this show. Right

1078
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: even on the day they named the test squad and

1079
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: the new captain, they couldn't possibly make the new captain

1080
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: available to talk to anyone, couldn't possibly couldn't possibly bother

1081
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: to give us Razor. So we're going to I just

1082
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: want to know why the All Blacks media people are

1083
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: dumb and don't understand they have to fight for an

1084
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: audience nowadays. We're going to talk to the sports huddle

1085
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: about it shortly.

1086
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the name you trust to get the answers you need,

1087
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: Heather Dup to see allan drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: let's get connected and news talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 10: Well, watch me, Heather.

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Speaker 2: I's got no trouble getting the All Blacks players on

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Speaker 2: the show, even on test days. He had a really

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Speaker 2: big interview with Razor. Thank you, Johnny. HEYI the why

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Speaker 2: don't you ask sports Piney how he managed to get

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Speaker 2: all the player Okay, yeah, I will ask Piney. And

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Speaker 2: just to take about that, I know the answer. They

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Speaker 2: had to basically bug the all black media guys for

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Speaker 2: three months, like beg them to come on. They should

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Speaker 2: be grateful to go on with Pioneer anyway, we'll get

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Speaker 2: to that. And just to take because Poney's on the

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Speaker 2: sports huddle with us, as is Andrew Gordy. Now, this

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Speaker 2: is the thing about the Presbyterians. This looks so bad.

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Speaker 2: This looks so bad. It turns out the Presbyterians, or

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Speaker 2: more specifically the Presbyterian support Otago group whatever that is,

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Speaker 2: couldn't give documents to the inquiry and to Abuse and

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Speaker 2: Care because they destroyed them all. We found out they

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Speaker 2: destroyed them back in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, which

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Speaker 2: by the way, is dodgy as all hell, because we

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Speaker 2: already knew then that an inquiry was going to happen,

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Speaker 2: because twenty seventeen was the election and Jacinda had promised

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Speaker 2: an inquiry, and then twenty eighteen, in February, the inquiry

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Speaker 2: was announced and these people were destroying the record. Somewhere

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Speaker 2: between September twenty seventeen and July twenty eighteen, they destroyed

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Speaker 2: get this, all the records belonging to children and young

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Speaker 2: people who'd stayed in the Presbyterian residential homes. How dodgy

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Speaker 2: is that they decided the documents were too much of

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Speaker 2: a ri The reason they did that was because they

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Speaker 2: got in touch with a lawyer called Fraser Barton and

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Speaker 2: they asked Fraser. He was a board member at the time.

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Speaker 2: I think were a former board member, I'm not sure,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, regardless, he had a hooker there and Fraser

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Speaker 2: told them that it's okay, you can get rid of

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Speaker 2: the documents. Yeah, yeah, get rid of it. And he

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Speaker 2: said at an appropriate time. Now, he says in his

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Speaker 2: defense he didn't tell them that the appropriate time was now,

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Speaker 2: but then also he didn't tell them that the appropriate

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Speaker 2: time was not now, So then they just went ahead

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Speaker 2: and did it anyway. So a formal complaint has now

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Speaker 2: been laid with the New Zealand Law Society, actually two

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Speaker 2: of them about him, because he also happens to be

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Speaker 2: the president of the New Zealand Law Society. And also

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Speaker 2: Judith Collins, in her capacity as the Attorney General, has

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Speaker 2: now had to come out and remind everyone that all

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Speaker 2: state and faith based institutions are legally obligated to preserve records.

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Speaker 2: Presbyterians looking at you, anyone destroying documents because they believe

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Speaker 2: they could be used as evidence of a crime, maybe

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Speaker 2: committing an offense and could be prosecuted, Well, go for it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like these people have some quick answer,

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Speaker 2: don't they. Twenty two away from six now get a

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Speaker 2: load of this. Do you remember those stranded astronauts on

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Speaker 2: the International Space Station. They've been told we don't know

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Speaker 2: when they're coming back. They went up on that dodgy

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Speaker 2: Boeing aircraft to the ISS about seven weeks ago, where

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Speaker 2: they were meant to spend only about a week. But

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Speaker 2: they've been there seven weeks and we don't know when

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Speaker 2: they're going to come back. Josh Raki is a Star

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Speaker 2: Dome astronomer and is with us. Now, Hey, Josh, how

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Speaker 2: long can they realistically be up there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a bit of an unknown question at this

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Speaker 5: At this stage, we don't really have a return date,

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Speaker 5: but as to how long they can stay, I mean,

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Speaker 5: they definitely have months of supplies for those two astronauts

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Speaker 5: that are you know, kind of overstaying their stay. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I probably wouldn't worry about supplies or anything. Food No,

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Speaker 5: I mean, they've got plenty of food, and they're you know,

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Speaker 5: they're stocked up, and they get pretty regular shipments up

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Speaker 5: to the astronauts, So yeah, I think food is probably

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Speaker 5: the least of their worries.

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Speaker 2: Josh, can't they chuck them on another spacecraft to bring

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Speaker 2: them back?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we can, we technically can. I mean,

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Speaker 5: we have other spacecraft which you know, don't have as

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Speaker 5: many problems and are upbraidable. But the problem is it's,

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Speaker 5: you know, they're very, very expensive to get these spacecraft up,

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Speaker 5: and you know, we also don't just kind of keep

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Speaker 5: them on the launch pad ready to go, so you know,

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Speaker 5: if we were to send one, you know you're talking,

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Speaker 5: it's you know, tens of millions of dollars and also

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Speaker 5: you know, weeks and weeks of preparation, so it's yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's a bit of a mission either way.

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Speaker 2: And presumably you actually need them up up there to

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Speaker 2: bring the dodgy bowing one back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's kind of why they're still up. There's

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Speaker 5: a lot of the issues they've been having with these

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Speaker 5: you know, the thrusters. Boeing said that basically, once the

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Speaker 5: astronauts returned to Earth, the part of the spacecraft that's

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Speaker 5: having problems is basically destroyed on re entry. So they're

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Speaker 5: trying to figure out exactly what the problem is before

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Speaker 5: they come home, because when they do get home, the

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Speaker 5: problem is basically destroyed and they're not going to find

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Speaker 5: anything else out. So, yeah, they're kind of stuck a

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Speaker 5: rock and a hard place.

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Speaker 2: Less less of a thing about like if we bring

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Speaker 2: you home in it, you're all going to die, and

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Speaker 2: more a thing of we need to get to the

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Speaker 2: bottom of what we wrong this time, then you can

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Speaker 2: come back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's kind of a great area

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Speaker 5: because NASA and Boeinger, you know, they're not going to

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Speaker 5: out right say, oh, you know, the spacecraft is not working,

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Speaker 5: We're not going to send them it's dangerous. But you know,

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Speaker 5: if they finish these tests and they come to the

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Speaker 5: conclusion that this is not a safe spacecraft and they're

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Speaker 5: obviously not going to send you know, these two astronauts

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Speaker 5: back home on it, they'll have to send up another one.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's a little bit of a pr nightmare

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Speaker 5: and we just don't really anno answers yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh Josh, thanks for explaining to us. I appreciate that. Joshierrocky,

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Speaker 2: who's the stardom astronomer.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International realty

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Speaker 1: unparalleled reach and results are all right.

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Speaker 24: At Paris twenty twenty four, they opened with victory over

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Speaker 24: Guinea and Ni New Dan.

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Speaker 25: I'm gone metal, hopes are over and the.

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Speaker 26: Man sevens full time in Saint at End, Canada proved

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Speaker 26: there slightly better at the game of football than they

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Speaker 26: are at the game of ice Fy.

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Speaker 2: With me on the Sports atle we have Jason pie

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Speaker 2: news talk Zbie Weekend Sport hosts and Andrew Gordy sports commentator.

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Speaker 2: Are you sue hello, Piney? Can't I can't hear that

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Speaker 2: music and not get excited and feel slightly emotional.

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Speaker 9: Start running down a beach and bare feet it is?

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Speaker 2: I mean, don't you get a little bit hopes?

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Speaker 9: Of course this is me you're talking to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, Gordy, do we want the Canadians to have

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Speaker 2: their points docked?

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Speaker 16: I want points dot, I want all of it. I

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Speaker 16: want them kicked out of the competition, absolutely all of it.

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Speaker 20: I know you.

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Speaker 2: Are you not just saying that, Gordy, You actually mean that?

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Speaker 20: Hither.

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Speaker 16: This is the Olympic Games we're talking about. This is

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Speaker 16: meant to be the pinnacle events for integrity, honesty, sportsmanship,

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Speaker 16: and that has gone completely out the window on this

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Speaker 16: since then. So yes, I want them kicked out of

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Speaker 16: the competition. Wat shouldn't they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Piney, what do you think?

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Speaker 10: I agree?

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Speaker 24: Unfortunately, those virtues that Andrew talks about and that we

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Speaker 24: all admire and in our sports people, they exited a

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Speaker 24: long time ago from the Olympic Games, unfortunately. So look,

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Speaker 24: you know, fast, higher, stronger. They didn't didn't fly it

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Speaker 24: high enough did they to avoid detection?

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Speaker 1: Gordy?

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Speaker 2: Listen. The thing that's complicated about it, though, is who has, like,

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Speaker 2: under whose purview does this fall? Is it FIFA or

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Speaker 2: is it the IOC.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's murky waters, there isn't it. And I suspect

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Speaker 16: they will both stand there and point the finger at

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Speaker 16: each other other and say, hey, this is your problem. No,

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Speaker 16: this is your problem. We won't fix it now, we'll

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Speaker 16: sort it out after the event when it's far too late,

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Speaker 16: especially for the football tam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because if it's FIFA poney that's staying

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Speaker 2: in the competition, they're getting a round of applause for Cheatah,

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Speaker 2: an't they?

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Speaker 24: I'm not sure about that, but they do tend to

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Speaker 24: work at glacial speed, these two organizations, and and try.

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Speaker 2: To negotiate who's going to pay them the most money.

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Speaker 9: Well maybe that's it.

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Speaker 24: But see they have to act quickly, and they won't

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Speaker 24: because if they're going to dock points that'll affect obviously

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Speaker 24: the Olympic competition. It's only run over about ten days.

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Speaker 24: They've got to act now or not at all.

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Speaker 2: Tony, you cannot have a scenario where you have got

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Speaker 2: the cheating Canadians, recidivus cheats standing on the podium, can.

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Speaker 24: You We might have that. We might well have that.

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Speaker 24: That's one absolutely possible outcome. Oh it was Canada this morning.

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Speaker 24: They were okay, you know, in a footballing sense. But

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Speaker 24: you're right, we might have some medalists who have been

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Speaker 24: found to be in their men's and women's program to

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Speaker 24: be endemic droners.

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Speaker 2: I'm just digging all the dad jokes today, Gordy. I

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Speaker 2: don't know about you, Gordy. Listen on the sevens like

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Speaker 2: this is bad juju right right at the start.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's not great. It's not great, but I'll be

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Speaker 16: honest with that. I'm not going to lose any sleepover.

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Speaker 16: I mean, sevens rugby is like T twenty cricket. And

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Speaker 16: obviously we're seeing what happened to the Black Cats this

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Speaker 16: year's World Cup. It's not that these sorts of results

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Speaker 16: can happen in this format of the game. Yeah, and

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Speaker 16: the dice didn't roll their way this time. Very sad

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Speaker 16: obviously for the All Black sevens, but you know, it's

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Speaker 16: quarter final defeat. It's the Olympic Games. This is what happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you reckonpony?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, I'll still cheerladly for our women and I think

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Speaker 24: they're a really good metal chance. But yeah, it feels

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Speaker 24: as though the men's game, more than the women's game,

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Speaker 24: is just is so fraught with possibility of something like

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Speaker 24: this happening.

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Speaker 2: Because it's so tight.

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Speaker 24: So difficulty is is they've got to stay there now

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Speaker 24: and compete for the you know, the bracket of whatever

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Speaker 24: it is.

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Speaker 9: Nine to twelve. Yeah, it's the day out.

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Speaker 2: You just go to the opening ceremony and get absolutely sloshed,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you wouldn't care, would you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you probably would you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is for me, for me, this is why

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Speaker 2: we're not athletes, You and I, all three of us,

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Speaker 2: all three of us. Okay, Gordy, what are our best

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Speaker 2: chance meddlers? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 16: Oh? Yeah, look, good question. I mean I think everyone's

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Speaker 16: going to be looking to lead to Carrington, right. I

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Speaker 16: was sort of pondering, actually, how many medals we might

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Speaker 16: might win gold and collectively across the entire thing. I know,

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Speaker 16: obviously we did exceedingly well at the last Olympic Games.

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Speaker 16: Was what was the seven gold medals? Twenty overall? Out

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Speaker 16: our greatest ever whore. I don't know that I can

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Speaker 16: quite expect that many this time. But yeah, we're going

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Speaker 16: to be looking to the un your suspect, and I

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Speaker 16: don't know, I have some quiet hopes, perhaps with the

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Speaker 16: likes of some of our cyclists, possibly even Hamish Curve.

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Speaker 16: But yeah, I think I'm looking forward to seeing some

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Speaker 16: surprises come out of this Olympic Games for the New

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Speaker 16: Zealand team as well.

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Speaker 2: In terms Piney of where the Games have sat in

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00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: the past historically, is going to this? Is this looking

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00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: to be one of the great ones middling, not so great.

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Speaker 24: I guess we'll have to wait till the end to

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Speaker 24: find out in terms of New Zealand participation and success. Yeah,

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Speaker 24: Andrew's absolutely right. I don't I think twenty is a

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Speaker 24: bridge too far. I don't think we'll get twenty. I

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Speaker 24: think it'll be in the teens somewhere. And like Andrew,

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Speaker 24: I just love the surprises, the people you don't expect

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00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 24: to middle that always there are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, but but I just want to check out a

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Speaker 24: word for Hayden Wild I think is a real chance

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Speaker 24: on the means trying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that's that seems like consensus. All right,

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Speaker 2: we'll take a break and then we come back. Piney,

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00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to explain to us how you manage,

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: like how much did you pay the All Blacks to

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00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: come on your show, Like you're running some sort of

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: a FIFA thing. Fourteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Six the Friday's Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeast International

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Speaker 1: Realty Exceptional Marketing for every Property.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're back with the Sports Tettle, got Andrew, Gordy

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Speaker 2: and Jason Pinel. Right, Piney, so tell us how long

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Speaker 2: you people had to beg the All Blacks in order

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Speaker 2: to get raised.

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Speaker 10: On the show.

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Speaker 9: Wow, jee, I love That's what I love about this

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Speaker 9: segment is you come in red hot? Yeah, don't you?

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Speaker 20: You did?

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Speaker 24: Look This is obviously with reference to Shane's colum and

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Speaker 24: the hair ald around the difficulty of access to the

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Speaker 24: All Blacks.

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Speaker 9: It did take us a while, but three months.

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Speaker 24: But I but I peel it all back and I

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Speaker 24: think to myself, Okay, we got this forty five minutes

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Speaker 24: to an hour on the radio with Scott robertson which

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Speaker 24: was you know?

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Speaker 2: Which was? I thought?

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Speaker 9: Anyway?

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Speaker 24: And the feedback We've got a terrific hour of radio.

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Speaker 24: What goes Yeah, but what goes into it? It's often

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Speaker 24: I often say that you shouldn't in an hour industry.

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Speaker 24: What goes on the air, the thirty seconds or sixty

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Speaker 24: seconds that goes on the air is worth the hours

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Speaker 24: and hours that go into get in it on the air.

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Speaker 2: No, but poney, you shouldn't have to beg them for

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Speaker 2: three months to come on the show. They should be

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Speaker 2: wanting to go on the sports radio show in the

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Speaker 2: country because they are now fighting. It's not the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 2: They are fighting again. Our distraction being Netflix, the Warriors,

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Speaker 2: all the stuff that, all concerts and towns and stuff like,

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Speaker 2: We've got a thousand different things to do instead of

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Speaker 2: watching the All Blacks. They should begging you for three months.

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Speaker 9: We did, just to be feeling. Just to be clear,

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Speaker 9: we didn't beg them to come on. We asked them.

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Speaker 24: We kept we kept on, We kept on requesting, we

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Speaker 24: kept on requesting.

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Speaker 9: I suppose that isn't bigging in a way? Isn't it?

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Speaker 10: Jee?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: Am?

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Speaker 2: I am I being hyperactive about this? Or is this fair?

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Speaker 20: No?

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Speaker 16: Okay? So I've got two things to say about this.

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Speaker 16: I think what Mike has said about this is fair,

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Speaker 16: but I would honestly say it's better now than it

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Speaker 16: probably has ever been. I think what you're saying either.

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Speaker 16: I think New Zealand Rugby and their media people actually

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Speaker 16: understand that point of view better than they ever have before.

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Speaker 16: But look for Hosking. If you can't get it all

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Speaker 16: back on the show, he needs to build some relationships.

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Speaker 16: He needs to get down to their level. Trade in

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Speaker 16: the Ferrari for a forward Ranger, Go fishing with Scooter bad,

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Speaker 16: go surfing with Razor. I mean, wouldn't we love to

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Speaker 16: see that? I mean you know, he's got to come

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Speaker 16: down to the level.

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Speaker 2: What are you, Gordy? I mean, I kind of love

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Speaker 2: what you're saying, but also I do want to say

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Speaker 2: it's true.

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Speaker 13: You know, it's true.

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Speaker 2: You should be gagging, like if you were out there

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Speaker 2: competing with everybody else, you should be you should be

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Speaker 2: slipping him backhanders to get on his show. Do you

1390
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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Not being like a la gee

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Speaker 2: was anyway? You know, all power to them. Listen, Gordi,

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Speaker 2: there's been this brujha and the netbule about you know,

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Speaker 2: someone using the word feral. Is there really that big

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Speaker 2: a deal.

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Speaker 16: It's not a big deal. And I love it because, frankly, Heather,

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Speaker 16: you and I and we've spoken on this very segment

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Speaker 16: about the challenges that nipple is facing for relevance in

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Speaker 16: this day and age, You and I and Piney would

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Speaker 16: not be talking about Nickball on the show if Mary

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Speaker 16: and Delaney Hoshik hadn't used the word feral to describe

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Speaker 16: an opposition defense. So I want more of it. I

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Speaker 16: want more access, more, more you know, hot mics for

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Speaker 16: these teams, and not only that, I want Marian Delaney

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Speaker 16: Hoshik to come out and tell us exactly who she

1405
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 16: thinks is Ferrial. Give us more narrative, give us more

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01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 16: things to talk about, don't hide away from the stuff.

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Speaker 16: Sport needs to embrace these sorts of you know, an

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01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 16: inverted Commas controversies, because that's what's going to fuel interesting sport.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, the fly on the wall stuff is what people

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 24: are watching now. It is getting the insight that we've

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Speaker 24: never had before. Hot mic them all up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Maybe if we hot mic up the All

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Speaker 2: Blacks and then just clip it together for Mike Hoskin's show.

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01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, I'm just trying to help them.

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Speaker 9: I mean, hot MIC's for the hot mic.

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 16: Oh, he doesn't need any more of an ego boat.

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Speaker 2: Come on and we finish with a dad joke. Guys,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much appreciated. Go and enjoy the opening

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Speaker 2: ceremony in the Olympics. How good is it going to be?

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Speaker 2: That's Andrew Gordy, sports commentator and Jason Pine News talk

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Speaker 2: Z'BI Weekend sport hosts and fan of the All Blacks.

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Speaker 2: Eight Away from six Pin your smart.

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Speaker 1: Speaker, on the iHeart app and in your car on

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Speaker 1: your drive home. Heather Dupleic Allen Drive with one New

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Speaker 1: Zealand one giant Leap for Business News Talk zedby.

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Speaker 2: Five away from six Gees. I almost forgot to tell you. Actually,

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Speaker 2: you remember yesterday we were talking about the timoral auto

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Speaker 2: y thing, which is like the local e we get

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Speaker 2: to decide how the waters, how the waters treated in

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Speaker 2: any particular region. And apparently in Otago the rules are

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Speaker 2: going to be so strict that it's going to end

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Speaker 2: up costing a couple of towns, like more than a

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Speaker 2: million bucks, like fifty thousan dollars per rate, payal whatever. Finally,

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Speaker 2: Otaga Regional Councilors said they will talk to us and

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Speaker 2: they're gonna be with us just after sex. And I've

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Speaker 2: also got fantastic news, which is that it has been

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Speaker 2: confirmed Lady Gaga and Celine Dion are going to perform

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Speaker 2: a duet at the opening ceremony. They are going to

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Speaker 2: perform apparently Edith PR's Lovey and Rose this one. Honest,

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Speaker 2: there's a little downbeat for the opening ceremony. I would

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Speaker 2: have gone for, you know, likewor something like that. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: whatever they've got, I mean, it's their business, not mine.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've got any credentials as a musician

1444
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Speaker 2: have I I mean, you just heard what I do

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: and it's horrific. Anyway, no one can figure out why

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Speaker 2: Selene and Gagar are performing. Lady Gaga is in fact

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Speaker 2: not French and Celendion. Look, she can speak French is

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Speaker 2: her native tongue, but she's also not French. We're a

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01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: long loo for Paris. I mean, they got like nobody

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Speaker 2: in Paris we know about. Is there nobody in France

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Speaker 2: who's a big deal in the music scene Anyway. I'm

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Speaker 2: not complaining though, because I'm so looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 2: Selena just how things are going for her now that

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01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 2: she's got the spiff person syndrome. To keep an eye

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Speaker 2: on that. Also, today is the fortieth anniversary of David

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Speaker 2: Longi being sworn in as Prime Minister all those years

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Speaker 2: ago in nineteen eighty four. That was one crazy government.

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Speaker 2: Let's just stop and reflect on how mental that went.

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Speaker 2: Even just Cinder's government was not as crazy as that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you like, how did that thing end?

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Speaker 2: It like wonderful reform, which we should all be incredibly

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01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: grateful for, but he ended up forcing his Finance minister

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Speaker 2: into a position where Roger Douglas was like basically forced

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Speaker 2: to resign, and then Roger Douglas came out and started

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01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: criticizing David Longey publicly, and then they were fighting publicly,

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Speaker 2: and then the caucus was pecking Douglas over Longee, which

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Speaker 2: led to Longi resigning. I mean that was like drama

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Speaker 2: on an epic scale. Nothing has been as epic as

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Speaker 2: that government and hopefully well, I mean there's a part

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Speaker 2: of me that which is it would be again, but no,

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Speaker 2: it's not good for us anyway. So forty years since

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Speaker 2: that all kicked off, how about that Otigo Regional Council

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Speaker 2: straight after.

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Speaker 8: The news that you come.

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Speaker 23: This, Well, what what's down?

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Speaker 1: What were the major calls? And how will it affect

1477
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Speaker 1: the economy of the business? Questions on the Business Hour

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Speaker 1: with the Duplessy Allen and my Hr on News Talks, MV.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good evening. Coming up in the next hour. Taiwan

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Speaker 2: is starting its annual war games on Monday. We're going

1481
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: to talk to Peter Lewis, our Asia correspondent about that.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Grays with us out of the UK just the

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Speaker 2: head of the opening ceremony, and we'll also wrap the

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Speaker 2: political week that was at seven past six. Now there

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01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: are concerns in Otargo about how much new freshwater rules

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Speaker 2: could cost. Federated Farmers of Targo reckons it could be

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Speaker 2: as much as one hundred and ten million dollars for

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Speaker 2: two small Otago towns, which equates to around fifty thousand

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01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 2: dollars per rate pay This is a case study. They've

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Speaker 2: written to counselors district mayor's ministers demanding that the information

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Speaker 2: be made public. Anitadore is the general Manager of Planning

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Speaker 2: and Transport at Otago Regional Council and with us. Now, Hey, Anita, Hey, Heather,

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Speaker 2: I mean, are they right? Is it can potentially cost

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01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: that much money for ratepayers?

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Speaker 22: That's actually information we don't have. We haven't been provided

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Speaker 22: that by the City and District Council, so I genuinely

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Speaker 22: can't tell you, but I'd be surprised if it were

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Speaker 22: that much.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any idea how much these new rules

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Speaker 2: are going to cost anywhere in the in the region.

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Speaker 22: Range with the rules is they're going to impact everybody differently,

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01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 22: so there's not a uniform cost. So it'll depend on

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01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 22: when you need new content, whether you need a content

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01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 22: at all. So there's a whole lot of permitted activities

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01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 22: that you won't need a consent for and then you know,

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01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 22: so there's a bunch of different factors. Also depends on

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Speaker 22: what you're doing, so different landowners will impact to differently.

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Speaker 2: Presumably there will also have to be some changes in

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Speaker 2: the way that that treated water is discharged. Have you

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01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: looked into how much that will cost?

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01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 22: So then will be changes. In a sense, what we

1512
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 22: will be asking out city industrict councilors is for standards

1513
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 22: that mean that water quality is an impact because what

1514
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 22: we know is our community really wants good water quality.

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01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 22: So that's what the plan's driving towards.

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01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 2: Let's just understand the rules of it. So we've been

1517
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 2: told that that Nitahoo's rules say that no water can

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01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 2: pass through a human body and then be discharged directly

1519
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 2: into a body of water.

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01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 22: Is that correct speak for Natahoo, But it's not.

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01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 20: No.

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01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 22: Tahoo's plan at SOS plan and at the moment the

1523
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 22: plan is drafted doesn't say that.

1524
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: What does it say about that?

1525
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 10: Then?

1526
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 22: So what the plan does is a differentiates between raw wastewater,

1527
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 22: so sewage basically treated and then at different shates between

1528
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 22: discharges to land and discharges to water.

1529
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 2: And is treated water treated water able to be discharged

1530
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: under the plan into water.

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01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 22: There's a consent pathway for it, so there's an an

1532
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 22: ability to apply for a consent. If you get the consent,

1533
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 22: depends on the reason you're going to water, the treatment

1534
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 22: options that you've got. You know that, you know if

1535
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 22: there's a justification for why you can't discharge the land.

1536
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 22: But there's absolutely a pathway there, and it just depends

1537
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 22: on you know, each set of circumstances.

1538
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: Is that is there a preference to discharge onto land

1539
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: rather than into water?

1540
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 22: Yes, reference absolutely, yep, but not it's not an absolute.

1541
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: But you if you you would only be granted the

1542
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: consent to discharge into water if you cannot discharge onto land.

1543
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 22: Correct, not necessar serially, It just it depends and it's

1544
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 22: one of those difficulties. Without an application in front of

1545
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 22: a contense team, it's really hard to determine. But all

1546
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 22: we can do is say there's a pathway there, we've

1547
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 22: got a preference water land, but we're also really where

1548
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 22: that in places like central Tago, it's bases for a

1549
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 22: whole lot of the air and so you can't judge

1550
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 22: to land so you know, there's practicalities in the plan,

1551
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 22: and then there's also the community expectations in terms of

1552
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 22: getting water quality that we can drink consum and.

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01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 2: You would accept you would accept anita that if the

1554
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 2: consent was not granted to discharge into water. When you

1555
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: exist existing, you do discharge into water, there will be

1556
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: a cost attached to that which could be quite significant.

1557
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 22: Right absolutely, Okay, is the.

1558
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 2: Second part of the rules that you cannot now take

1559
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: water from one water body and discharge it into another

1560
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 2: water body.

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01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 22: So what we've got there is there's some policy direction

1562
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 22: around cross mixing of waters. And basically what it says

1563
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 22: is say, this is a thing that's occurred in the past,

1564
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 22: and we know that it's going to occur, and it's

1565
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 22: really hard to untangle, so let's not worry about that.

1566
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 22: Let's try to avoid any of that happening in the future.

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 22: So it differentiates between what we already know is happening,

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01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 22: is existing and supports. You know, so if you've.

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01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: Got avoided, for example, that is currently taking water out

1570
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: of one water body one stream, let's say, and then

1571
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 2: then discharging it into another stream, and they're doing it already,

1572
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: they can continue to do it so that can apply.

1573
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 22: For a consent to continue to do it, and the

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 22: plan will.

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01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: To apply for a consent, Anita, the mere fact that

1576
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: they need to apply for a consent suggests that you

1577
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 2: might say.

1578
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 22: No, so most consents. Most people need consent to take water,

1579
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 22: so that the consent is for the tape for water,

1580
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 22: not for where it's coming from and discharging too.

1581
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: So are you telling me that even if they're doing

1582
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: this thing already, the moment these rules come in, there

1583
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 2: will need to be a new application under these rules

1584
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: for consent.

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 22: Absolutely, not just when the consent expires. Is a typical

1586
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 22: in every sit as a continent. So when the config

1587
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 22: there's a new policy framework, there's a new set of

1588
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 22: considerations and it will be assessed accordingly.

1589
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: You said to me earlier that you don't have that

1590
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 2: case study that somebody else has got, that case study

1591
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 2: that Federated Farmers were referring to. Who's got it?

1592
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 22: Don't know, don't know. I'd be speculating, and I don't know.

1593
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: So is a whole bunch of district councils and city

1594
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: councils and stuff doing their own case studies and looking

1595
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: at how much things are going to cost potentially.

1596
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 22: So part of what we do when we develop plans

1597
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 22: is we're required to do some compensation before we notify it,

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01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 22: and we did that in January and February this year

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01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 22: and all of our five tas were grew out at

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01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 22: a coffee. We've got some feedback from two of our tas,

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 22: but not all five. And I had a quick look

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 22: and I couldn't see that information in there. And the

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01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 22: situation the Federated Farmers seemed to describe as a different

1604
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 22: territory authority one we didn't get feedback from.

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: So well, I mean essentially what they want to know

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 2: con Federated Farmers is what is in the latest draft

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01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: of the land and Water plan? When are you going

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01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: to make that public?

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01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 20: Yeah?

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 22: So' going to be public when it's notified, and we've

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01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 22: been working well, it's subject to a council decision, So

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01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 22: we will be taking it to council in October and

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01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 22: council will make that decision.

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01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: But don't the rules need to come in in October?

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01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 22: No, what the plan is notified? And then you get

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01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 22: really technical and then old we'll say this very policy

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01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 22: wants saying that the rules will have legal effect, but

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01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 22: there's a natural justice presumption in the RAMA that says,

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01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 22: if you're doing an activity today and it doesn't need

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01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 22: a consent, and then you're going to do it tomorrow

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 22: and it might need a consent, then we're not going

1622
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 22: to make you get a consent until we've been righting.

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01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: So is that fair? So it's going to go to

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: Council and it's going to basically be enacted before anybody

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01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: who is affected by this stuff can actually see what

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01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 2: it says.

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01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 22: So lots of the groups have already seen it. So

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01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 22: as I see which grades and pre notification consultation. We

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 22: consulted fifty different parties, including Federated Farmers, and my staff

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01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 22: have been working with Federated Farmers on some right other day.

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01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: Okay, they've seen it. Have they seen the final draft?

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01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: Have they seen the latest draft?

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01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 22: They have not seen the final draft. There isn't the

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01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 22: final draft yet, we're still working on it.

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01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: And okay, So that's what I'm asking you, though, Is

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 2: it fair that you guys work on this latest draft

1637
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: and no one gets to see it who's affected by

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01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: it until it's basically enacted. Don't you think they should

1639
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 2: see it beforehand and never bit of a sailor.

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01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 22: Well, they've had they've had lots of saves. We've been

1641
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 22: engaging on some of these aspects since twenty twenty. But

1642
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 22: what's happened now is we're in the set. They're part

1643
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 22: of the process and the RAM sets for that and

1644
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 22: we're just doing what the RIM sets out. So you know,

1645
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 22: that's a that's a process question. And if we show

1646
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 22: it to one party, we've got to show it to them.

1647
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 2: All yeah, you should, as you should.

1648
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 22: Well, I've seen it a couple of times. Yep, they've

1649
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 22: seen and then the good thing about democracy is that

1650
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 22: every of those parties can submit on plan and then

1651
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 22: a hearings pan or get to make delsment decision on

1652
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 22: what the plan looks like.

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01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Anita, thanks for having a chat to us.

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01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Thanks for explaining. That's Anita Do,

1655
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: General Manager of Planning and Transport Otago Regional Council. I

1656
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: don't think that's going to satisfy anyone. Basically, the rules

1657
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 2: are coming at you. Can it be pricey, but you're

1658
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: only going to find out when they're enacted, quarter pasted.

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01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results, it's hither Dupe

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Speaker 1: Ellen with the Business Hours thanks to my HR, the

1661
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: HR platform for SME on Newstalk SMB.

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Speaker 2: Right, Jason Walls, political editor, wrapping the political week that

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01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: was in for Barry Sopa. Right now we have him, Hello.

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Speaker 17: Jason, Good evening, Heather.

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01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 2: Now the abuse and state care thing. It seems to

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01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 2: me that the decisions that are made from here on

1667
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: in other really gnarly, and particularly the redress, right, that

1668
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 2: is going to be really complicated, isn't it.

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01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 18: Yeah?

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01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 17: Absolutely, this is basically where the rubber hits the road.

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01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 17: The report obviously harrowing and a massive, massive body of

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01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 17: work went into that. That was the report and forward

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01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 17: looking now it's when the government actually has to show

1674
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 17: a bit of leadership here in terms of what it's

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01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 17: going to do next. The big question, as you alluded to,

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 17: obviously being redressed. What happens next in terms of the

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01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 17: dollars and cents I think is something that's pretty big.

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01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 17: Obviously we're going to get the apology, which hopefully brings

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01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 17: closure to a lot of the people that were effective,

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01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 17: but the money aspect is obviously something else that the

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 17: government has to look out for as well. Now the

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Speaker 17: Prime Minister this week. Didn't want to talk about that,

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01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 17: so that that would be a conversation for another day.

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 17: But at some point you just have to look at

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01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 17: the numbers here and say, it's going to be a

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01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 17: big cost to the government. There was a recommendation that

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01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 17: said something about ten thousand dollars per person and to

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 17: their children as well. And given the fact there was

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Speaker 17: two hundred thousand people that were impacted, I mean, you

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01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 17: do the maths, that's a lot of money. So we'll

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 17: have to wait to see where this actually fits in.

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01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,839
Speaker 17: We do know and I'm sorry this is an incredibly

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01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,799
Speaker 17: crude way to look at a very very impactual, impacting report.

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01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 17: But we'll have to wait till we see the numbers

1695
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 17: and how that actually impacts the government's books because we

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01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 17: do know that their operating allowance is already waited thin

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01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 17: so any new spending money is going to have to

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01:16:59,200 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 17: be found.

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01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But also, I mean, how do you you can't just

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01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: pay out to everybody who's made an allegation, right you?

1702
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 2: Like you literally cannot do that. You would have to

1703
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 2: go and how do you determine do you pay out

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01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 2: to people who get a police prosecution? Do you pay

1705
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: out to people who have verification like corroboration. How do

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01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: you determine that you're going to pay out to who

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 2: you pay out?

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01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 17: Indeed, I mean it almost but it almost warrants another

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01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 17: ministerial ministerial inquiry just to answer that question.

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01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: A long be.

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01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: Determined, like how do you determine how much you pay?

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01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: Because you can't pay everybody the same because not everybody

1713
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 2: was abused to the same degree. Some people will be entitled,

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01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 2: presumably to greater amounts of compensation than others, right.

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01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 17: Indeed, and these are the questions that somebody is going

1716
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 17: to have to sit down and ask and answer. And

1717
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 17: again you've got other tricky questions around the gangs as well.

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01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 17: And politically, yeah, I mean, it's it's not an amazing

1719
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,520
Speaker 17: look for the government to be paying. I mean, obviously,

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01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 17: if somebody has been abused in state care there.

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 2: Adjacent they've been abused in state care and then they

1722
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: have gone on and they have created victims of their own, right,

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Speaker 2: So now, I mean, and this is where he gets

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Speaker 2: really really hairy. You can't you can't make moral judgments.

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Speaker 2: You either pay people who've been abused or not, in

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Speaker 2: which case you are potentially paying gang members who've gone

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Speaker 2: on to create all kinds of mayhem.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, indeed, And so you're going to have to set

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Speaker 17: somebody very very experienced out on some sort of board

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Speaker 17: or some sort of group. I would say somebody like

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Speaker 17: Chris Finlisson would be very well positioned to lead that

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Speaker 17: sort of work. But you'd have to just see. It'll

1733
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 17: be a massive, massive, massive buddy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, he's got the legal mind for it, hasn't he. Now?

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Speaker 2: This Health Commissioner Lesta Levy who's been put in charge

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Speaker 2: of the sacked board, he's going to cut hard, isn't he?

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Speaker 2: At Health New Zealand?

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Speaker 17: It sounds that way, I mean, looking for from what

1739
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 17: happened this week in some of his comments, I mean

1740
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 17: he's got his work cut out from across the health sector.

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Speaker 17: It's a massive, massive job. I mean, Shaneretti, Christopher Lux

1742
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 17: one hundred and thirty million dollars a month, absolutely insane numbers.

1743
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Speaker 17: And the Prime Minister told me earlier this week he

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Speaker 17: wants to get that monthly figure down to nothing. And

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01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 17: that's an enormous amount of money that you're going to

1746
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 17: have to cut the system, whether it's fat, whether it's

1747
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 17: just finding other ways around where the Shaneretti who wants

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01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 17: to get it from fourteen layers between the patient and

1749
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 17: to the top chair of the board, that from fourteen

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01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 17: layers down to six. He was very specific on that one.

1751
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 17: He's going to have to find the money somewhere. But

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01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 17: Lester Levy being a commissioner means that he's so under

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01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 17: the thumb of the government in a way that a

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01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 17: board isn't. He's directly appointed by them. So he's going

1755
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 17: to you know, Luxon's gonna say jump, He's gonna have

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01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 17: to say how high?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, listen, Given the bad behavior that we've seen

1758
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: in Parliament lately, like Julian Jinter yelling in the face

1759
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: of somebody, how egregious is Winston actually saying the R word.

1760
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you shouldn't have. But it's not the worse

1761
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: than we've seen, is it.

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Speaker 17: It's no, it's not you know, sticks and stones sort

1763
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 17: of situation here. But a lot of people will find

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01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 17: the R word quite offensive, and he was called out

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Speaker 17: by the likes of the IHC, was called out by

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01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 17: Helen Clark as well. But what it really does is

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01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 17: it makes it harder for Chris Luxon, who's consistently saying

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01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 17: things like the tone of politics needs to change. People

1769
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 17: really need to watch what they're saying. He can hardly

1770
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 17: really be expected to see these sorts of things when

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Speaker 17: his deputy prime ministers in the House making these sorts

1772
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Speaker 17: of comments. So it's not a good look for the

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01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 17: government because it means that if it kind of looks

1774
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 17: hypocritic from them, I mean also hypocritical. Was antiparty Marti

1775
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 17: complaining about the decorum in Parliament where there's some.

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Speaker 2: Of the one, the worst, the worst, the pets.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, oh yeah, when they're actually there, that is well and.

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Speaker 9: That as well.

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Speaker 2: Jason, very good point. Hey, listen, thank you very much

1780
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Speaker 2: for standing in for Barry this week. Appreciated. Jason Wall's

1781
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Speaker 2: political editor wrapping the political week that was six twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather dupic

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Speaker 1: Ellen with the Business Hours thanks to my HR, the

1784
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Speaker 1: HR platform for SME on News talksb.

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Speaker 2: Six twenty six. Tiny bit of drama and politics today,

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01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: Chris Luckson's been rushed out of a press conference. It

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01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: happened this afternoon. He was in Auckland in a mini

1788
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: supermarket promoting his government's policy of putting more police officers

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01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 2: on the beat, and he was basically still talking when

1790
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 2: his security team told him to leave.

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Speaker 24: Ever, listen, and we're really focused on making sure we

1792
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,719
Speaker 24: get the economy pumping, we get people off welfare into work,

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Speaker 24: and we know that's a better outcome for children in

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Speaker 24: those families as well.

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Speaker 10: Okay, thanks guys, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Britt Let's rock.

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Speaker 2: Yes. So I don't know if you heard that at

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01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: the end, but one of his security guys taps him

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01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 2: on the shoulder and says, sorry, sir, we need to

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Speaker 2: leave right now.

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Speaker 1: Rock now.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, according to the Herald, what's happened here is there

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01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: may have been some pro Palestinian protesters around the place

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01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 2: and they were worried about getting caught on the street

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01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: by them because they love to cause a racus, those guys.

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01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, fair enough, get him out of there. I

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Speaker 2: just need to say big congrats to two big businesses

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01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Time magazine has just named a couple

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01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: of our businesses amongst the world's greatest places. So Dive

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01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 2: to Takaka from Northland has been named as one, and

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: Mount Cook Lakeside Retreat in the Mackenzie Regions been named

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01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 2: the other. Now, this is cool because time is serious business,

1813
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 2: like time is not. Time is not like some random

1814
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,440
Speaker 2: publication you've never heard of before in your life. Everybody

1815
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 2: knows time. If you make it onto the cover of time,

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01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: you're gonna punt that out and you're gonna get it

1817
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: framed and you're gonna stick it on your wall, aren't you.

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01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: So these guys should be very happy. And this list

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01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: has only got one hundred places on it. It's like

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01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 2: hotels and tour companies that they like and stuff. So

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01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: to for two of ours to make a list of

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01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: one hundred, I think is pretty special. They basically said

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Speaker 2: that the destinations in the twenty twenty four list reflect

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Speaker 2: the idea of humanity, what the collective we desires most

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01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: when unburdened from daily stressors and responsibilities. Did Krmala write, then,

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Speaker 2: I feel like they got Karmela into write there. That's

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Speaker 2: for people who are in the word business. That's quite wordy.

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01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 2: I feel like you could have said that a little

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01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 2: bit simply. Basically the stuff that we like as humans

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01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 2: when we go and relax, that's basically what it means. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: what they really liked about I'm loving the look of

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like diving at the moment, but I

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01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: like the look of the cook Lakeside Retreat in the

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Speaker 2: Mackenzie region. Apparently they've got this cool offering where you

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01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: can go go up the mountain. They take up the

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01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: mountain in a helicopter plays and you can look at

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01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: the dark sky reserve and if you're like, what am

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01:22:59,200 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: I going to do this week?

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Speaker 18: Go there.

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01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 2: They've got rooms available, the one bedroom villa to Toru.

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01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: Just just a breezy sixteen hundred dollars tonight tomorrow night.

1842
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean sixteen hundred dollars. What's that between friends? Stay

1843
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: there a couple of nights, three and a half thousand dollars. Yeah, okay,

1844
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 2: good for you. Time headlines next.

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01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: Sho whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics. It's

1846
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: all on a Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and

1847
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: my HR, the HR platform for sme used talksp.

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Speaker 10: You don't get test.

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01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: This is bad news for the Olympics. Unfortunately, several athletes

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01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 2: are complaining about a shortage of food at the Olympic village.

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01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: This is like the number one thing you do not

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01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: do with athletes never underserved them, right, and because you

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01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: have to you have to win your I mean, I

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01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: you know, I would assume that they would know that's

1855
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: having run the Olympics a number of times. But I

1856
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: would think that when you sit down to calculate how

1857
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: much food you need in an Olympic village, you sort

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01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: of have to cater for every athlete. It's like four

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01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 2: or five normal people, because that's who of that energy

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01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: and hoover it in any of the thing that they're

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01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: worried about, apparently is they haven't got enough eggs. And

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01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 2: eggs is like basic athletic food. Everybody, Like you've watched Rocky,

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01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: he gets the thing and he puts just like raw eggs,

1864
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 2: and you just got to have like dozens and dozens

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Speaker 2: of eggs for these people.

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Speaker 25: Come on from You cannot expect them to jump into

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01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 25: the dirty river. That's probably gonna make them sick on

1868
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 25: an empty stomach. That's exactly done.

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Speaker 2: And you know, of all the places in the world

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01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: to let them down like this front, I.

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Speaker 25: Think McDonald's just send out a statement right now and

1872
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 25: be like, hey, we've got plenty of check and nuggets

1873
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 25: if you need.

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01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 2: I think we need mackey d's back. It's twenty three

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Speaker 2: away from seven. Peter lewis our Asia Business correspondents with

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Speaker 2: us A Peter.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Heather.

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Speaker 2: So we've got the full text of the decisions that

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01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: were made in this the third planum. Is there anything

1880
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: in there that's interesting.

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01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 27: There's not a lot that's new, but there is. There

1882
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 27: are a large number of measures they talk about. They've

1883
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 27: set out over three hundred reform measures, things that are

1884
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 27: going to hopefully help improve their economy. The problem is

1885
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 27: a lot of these things we've heard about already. They've

1886
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 27: been talked about many times in the past. Several of

1887
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Speaker 27: them are already in train. And I think the two

1888
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 27: main themes we know about very well. The first one

1889
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Speaker 27: is national security. President Ji Jinping says national insecurity is

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01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 27: just as important as the economy. I suspect that when

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01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 27: push comes to shove, national security is even more important

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Speaker 27: than than the economy, and given the choice, he'll go

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01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 27: for national security every time. The second thing is what

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01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 27: he talks about is advancing new productive forces in the economy.

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Speaker 27: These are new areas where China wants to be strong in,

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Speaker 27: wants to be a global player in which are technology

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Speaker 27: things like electric vehicles, batteries, solar panels, and so on,

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Speaker 27: and he wants to be very self sufficient in technology

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Speaker 27: so that he doesn't have to rely on the West.

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Speaker 20: But the problem is, I'm not at all.

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Speaker 27: Convinced that these measures are really going to be enough

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01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 27: to solve China's economic woes. And I think the first

1903
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 27: reason for that is because it doesn't deal with the

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01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 27: main issue, which is that consumers just do.

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01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 20: Not want to spend. They're seeing the value of their.

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01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 27: Property go down month after month, They're worried about their jobs.

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01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 27: Youth unemployment is very very high in the country, so

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01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 27: rather than go out and spend their saving or pang

1909
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 27: down their mortgages, and it doesn't matter how much you

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01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 27: offer them cheap loans or cut interest rates, they just

1911
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Speaker 27: do not want to borrow. And unless you get the economy,

1912
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Speaker 27: the domestic side of the domestic demand side of the

1913
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Speaker 27: economy going, it's going to be very difficult for the

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Speaker 27: economy to recover overall.

1915
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Speaker 20: And that leads to the second issue. If you're going

1916
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Speaker 20: to produce.

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Speaker 27: All these things and your local consumers aren't going to

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Speaker 27: buy them, then it means you've got to export them

1919
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Speaker 27: to the rest of the world. Unfortunately for China, the

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Speaker 27: rest of the world increasingly doesn't want to buy them anymore,

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Speaker 27: and it sees the trade practices that China is following

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01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 27: here in trying to boost certain sectors as being unfair,

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Speaker 27: and they don't want to see in the EU and

1924
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 27: the US their own industries in the electric vehicles and

1925
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 27: batteries and solar panels and so on decimated. And these

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01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,839
Speaker 27: decisions don't really give a nod to those difficulties if anything,

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01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 27: I mean, the way President She presents it is we're

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Speaker 27: going to carry on regardless, and they're going to carry

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Speaker 27: on pouring money into these sectors, and we're going to

1930
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Speaker 27: become a global exporting nation of all these excess products.

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Speaker 27: And I think that's where it's going to run into difficulties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good point that you make. There

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Speaker 2: actually number of points if you make. Listen, so Taiwan's

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Speaker 2: standing into annual war games on Monday, what does this

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Speaker 2: actually look like? What are they actually doing?

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Speaker 27: Well, they're doing it differently this time. First of all,

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Speaker 27: they're not following any sort of script, and what they're

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Speaker 27: trying to do is really simulate what is a real

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Speaker 27: live surprise invasion by China by mainland forces to see

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Speaker 27: how their troops will respond to that. Now, obviously they're

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Speaker 27: taking recent developments very very seriously. I mean, China has

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Speaker 27: been increasing its own war games around tai Taiwan. It's

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Speaker 27: initiated for a while, a blockade, it puts, it puts

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Speaker 27: initiatives against Taiwan when it's elected William Lai as their presidents,

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Speaker 27: and China sees him as being a dangerous separatist who

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Speaker 27: wants to split Taiwan from the rest of China. So

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Speaker 27: Taiwan really has got to up its own defenses here

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Speaker 27: because as much as it may want to rely on

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Speaker 27: the US and other nations to help it, its first

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01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 27: line of defense is going to be itself. So it

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Speaker 27: really is prepping itself for doing this. The only problem

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Speaker 27: is it's all come to a bit of a halt

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Speaker 27: because of the typhoon that hit Taiwan the last couple

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Speaker 27: of days, a massive typhoon which has seen a couple

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Speaker 27: of ship sink around the islands. So that means they've

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Speaker 27: had to pull back on some of these war games.

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Speaker 27: But Chinla will no doubt be watching this very very closely.

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Speaker 2: Peter, It's good to talk to you. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: As always, it look for to talking you next week.

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Speaker 2: That's Peter lewis ow Asia Business Correspondents coming up eighteen

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Together for see Ellen.

1963
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump keeps doing a weird thing in his speeches.

1964
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 7: The late Greg Hannibal Lecter.

1965
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Where he mentions Hannibal Lecter from Silence of the Lambs

1966
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Speaker 2: in kind of favorable terms.

1967
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Speaker 8: Hannibal Lecter from Salace of the Lamb.

1968
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Speaker 10: He's a lovely man.

1969
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Speaker 7: He wants to have you for dinner.

1970
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 23: He'd like to have you for dinner.

1971
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Speaker 2: He's been doing it for ages, and then he did

1972
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: it again last night, The.

1973
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Speaker 8: Late Great Hannibal Letter. He's a wonderful man.

1974
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 7: He oftentimes would have a friend for dinner.

1975
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Speaker 2: Now, I mean, it shouldn't surprise us that Donald Trump's

1976
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 2: is wacky stuff. And it also shouldn't that he's got

1977
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 2: a fascination with popular culture, because this is the guy

1978
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 2: who had the Republican National Convention and got HELK. Hogan

1979
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 2: on stage and had Kid Rock doing some songs and

1980
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 2: had the UFC boss Dana White introducing him. Do you

1981
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? So he's the Kith Kookie he's

1982
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 2: got some weird kookie stuff there. He likes to draw

1983
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: on popular culture. Anyway, Why keep on bringing up creepy

1984
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 2: old hannibal lecter from Silence to the Lambs. It's confounded everyone.

1985
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,719
Speaker 2: And the reason it's confounded everyone is that Donald doesn't

1986
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 2: really talk like any one of us, right, he doesn't.

1987
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 2: He doesn't always make it, doesn't always make the two

1988
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,560
Speaker 2: points join up, do you know what I mean? So

1989
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 2: he just rambles. So I think he will sort of

1990
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 2: say one thing, and then he'll say another thing, and

1991
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 2: then he hopes that you can connect those two dots

1992
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Speaker 2: between those two things. What he's trying to do is

1993
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 2: he's trying to freak people out about immigrants, and he's

1994
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: warning people that, in his opinion, the immigrants coming into

1995
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 2: America are coming into America straight from the mental asylums overseas,

1996
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 2: and if they come to America, there are all going

1997
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 2: to be potential hannibal lictors who will eat you. You

1998
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 2: are welcome that I explained that to you. Because he's

1999
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 2: going to keep on doing this and now you know

2000
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Speaker 2: what he means next time around. I don't know why

2001
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Speaker 2: I'm helping him here. Sixteen away from seven.

2002
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Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour

2003
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Speaker 1: with Hinther, dupleic Ellen and my HR, the HR platform

2004
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Speaker 1: for SME US.

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Speaker 2: Talk zib Kevin gray as are UK correspondent to US.

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Speaker 28: Hey, Kevin Hia, Do we know why.

2007
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Speaker 2: That copper was stomping on that guy's head at Manchester?

2008
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Speaker 28: Well, at the moment we're getting investigations, but we're also

2009
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 28: getting a hint that there are two sides for this story,

2010
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 28: that there was quite a lot of things that had

2011
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 28: gone on prior to that footage actually being filmed, And

2012
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Speaker 28: the allegations are there was a mid air row in

2013
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Speaker 28: an air craft. The mother of one of the people

2014
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 28: who obviously was part of this is being alleged then

2015
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 28: called her sons to meet her at the airport, and

2016
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Speaker 28: it's alleged the sons and the people that she was

2017
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Speaker 28: campaigning about on the flight had some kind of a

2018
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Speaker 28: set to at Manchester. Those are the unconfirmed allegations and

2019
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 28: unconfirmed reports about what happened. But either way, of course,

2020
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Speaker 28: the behavior of the police officer who stomped on the

2021
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 28: head of one of the people as he was lying

2022
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 28: on the ground on videos that's gone around the world

2023
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 28: has now been suspended, and the family of the man

2024
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 28: who was kicked and stamped on say they've been left

2025
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 28: traumatized and are demanding a prosecution and will probably dare

2026
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Speaker 28: I say it, be seeking compensation as well. So tensions

2027
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Speaker 28: very high, and rather than where this family come from,

2028
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 28: just outside of Manchester, and certainly lots of people very

2029
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Speaker 28: I think stunned by the footage, but also very curious

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Speaker 28: as we all are, as to exactly what led up

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Speaker 28: to this incident.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, how do you run out of food at the

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Speaker 2: Olympic village?

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Speaker 28: Yeah, very good question. You would have thought that would

2035
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Speaker 28: have been the last headline that you would read. But

2036
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Speaker 28: apparently several athletes have complained about a shortage of food

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Speaker 28: the Olympic village. Apparently, particularly at breakfast, there's been a

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Speaker 28: shortage of eggs and grilled meats and they've been complaining

2039
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Speaker 28: the athletes because of course they are going to be

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Speaker 28: fed there for a long time. Fifteen thousand international athletes,

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Speaker 28: two hundred and eight territories and nations, plus their support teams,

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Speaker 28: officials and volunteers. More than thirteen million meals will be

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Speaker 28: served during the Olympic and Paralympic Games at the Olympic village,

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Speaker 28: so they need to get the quantities right. The organizers

2045
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Speaker 28: of caterers are saying they're going to do that. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 28: of course we look forward to the opening ceremony that

2047
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Speaker 28: takes part in about nine to ten hours time from now,

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Speaker 28: so very much looking forward to that later on. We're

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Speaker 28: being told it will be spectacular. But seventy five thousand

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01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 28: police security guards aren't guards on duty at any one

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Speaker 28: time during the Paris Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Now, Gvin, this is the very question that I wanted

2053
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Speaker 2: to ask when I was reading about the shipwreck right

2054
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 2: with a Champagne on it Easter today? Is that Champagne

2055
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 2: still drink well?

2056
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Speaker 28: Apparently so, yes, even though it has been at the

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01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 28: bottom of the ocean for some three hundred, two hundred

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Speaker 28: and fifty years. So the remarkable thing is that divers

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Speaker 28: went down to this nineteenth century sailing ship off the

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Speaker 28: coast of Sweden and found the wreck absolutely loaded to

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01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 28: the sides with champagne, wine, mineral water and porcelain. Yes,

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01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 28: mineral water in the nineteenth century, and that's why they reckon.

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01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 28: This ship was actually probably destined for a Russian czar,

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01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 28: somebody extremely wealthy. Now more than one hundred bottles of

2065
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 28: champagne are on the wreck, and apparently being deep sea

2066
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 28: is some of the best conditions you could possibly have

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01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 28: for the champagne. It's cold, it's dark, and it's still providing,

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01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 28: of course, that the corks are still completely seal tight.

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01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 28: It's fifty eight meters underwater and line there for one

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01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 28: hundred and seventy years or more. And they're saying, you

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01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 28: know what, this really could be some drinkable, palatable champagne,

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01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 28: though it won't still be sparkling heather, so I'm afraid

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01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 28: there will be that as a drawback. I'm not sure

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01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 28: i'd like to be the first person to taste it. However,

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01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 28: I think I might like to go second, third, or fourth,

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01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 28: just after having seen how the first person gets on.

2077
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 28: But anyway, they're looking to recover part of this booty.

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Speaker 2: You basically need someone to be your royal taste test Agevin,

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01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: thank you so much, enjoy your weekend. A'skevin Gray are

2080
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 2: UK correspondent. And apparently, back in the old days, mineral

2081
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 2: water was so special that they would have it was

2082
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 2: only served to like royals and famous people and stuff

2083
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 2: like that, and they would have security out its traveling

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01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: with it so you could not get your hands on

2085
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 2: the mineral water. And now look, you just go to

2086
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 2: Fiji and there's bottles of Fiji water there for free

2087
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 2: in your hotel room forever hither. I heard you say yesterday,

2088
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 2: you're a closet Trump supporter. I can't believe any woman

2089
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: would support someone who is an abuser. Oh my gosh,

2090
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 2: an abuser of women. Oh my gosh, what a long bow.

2091
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 2: I didn't say this. I didn't say I'm a closet

2092
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 2: Trump supporter. I just said that secretly like him to

2093
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 2: win because it'd be a laugh a minute, wouldn't it.

2094
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 2: That's very different to being a closet Trump supporter. I

2095
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 2: wouldn't vote for him, or maybe I would, just because

2096
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 2: it would be quite funny, wouldn't it. I mean, come on,

2097
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 2: Carmela is going to be so boring and they're going

2098
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 2: to do exactly the same thing as each other. Let's

2099
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 2: be honest about it. I'm not a supporter. I just

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01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 2: have more tolerance than you do of him, by the

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01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: looks of things. Anyway, on that subject, as answers pointed

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Speaker 2: out before, Hannibal Lictor is not dead. Hannibal Lictor does

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Speaker 2: not like this is did I do a spoiler?

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01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 25: That's definitely a spoiler.

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01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 2: That's a spoiler.

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01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 25: Sorry, we just ruined Siance of the Lambs read Dragon

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01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:35,799
Speaker 25: and Hannibal for you, but would.

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01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we did, because he does at one point

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01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 2: look dead and Silence of the Lambs doesn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you haven't watched Silence of the Lambs by now, you.

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Speaker 25: Know, definitely do it. By the way you do it,

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01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 25: even having spoiled it, it's a brilliant Yeah. Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 25: that's why I was confused by the late Is there

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01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 25: extra later Hannibal material that I have? I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 25: there was only those four books that got made into

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Speaker 25: four movies.

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Speaker 2: I think that's all. There's a whole Hannibal Wikipedia thing

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Speaker 2: online and you can go there. And he is not dead.

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01:36:58,680 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 2: According to Hannahbout.

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Speaker 25: I hadn't like he's going to die eventually, but he's

2121
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Speaker 25: a fictional characters.

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01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 2: But he was born in nineteen thirty three, which makes

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01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 2: him ninety one years old, so he hasn't got long

2124
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 2: to go. But he could well still be alive anyway.

2125
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 2: Just fact checking you, Donald, Oh, I am not a

2126
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: supporter of ain't away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, MicroB or just plain economics. It's all

2128
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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my HR,

2129
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Speaker 1: the HR platform for sme US talk sp Fiji.

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01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 2: Water is not mineral water. I feel like I feel

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01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 2: like I've got myself into a subject I do not

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Speaker 2: know anything about. Is it not? I just thought that

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Speaker 2: every bottle of water that doesn't come out of the

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Speaker 2: tap is mineral water. Is it not? No, I've obviously

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01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 2: been paying too much. Nobby's in trouble again. This is

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Speaker 2: some in the cargo Mayor Nobby Clark. He hasn't done

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01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 2: anything new to get him in trouble. This is because

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Speaker 2: of that interview that he did with Guy Williams, remember

2139
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Speaker 2: the one where he used the N word. What's happened

2140
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Speaker 2: as a law firm? When Williams brought him to review

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01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 2: it and they found that, yes, he did breach the

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Speaker 2: code of conduct like he probably did when he spoke

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Speaker 2: to the fire people, the fire brigade people. So they

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Speaker 2: had a vote today where they had a bunch of

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Speaker 2: options as to what to do with Nobby. They could

2146
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Speaker 2: either just censure him or they could ask him for

2147
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Speaker 2: a public apology or make one on his balf I

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Speaker 2: don't really know or invite him to resign, and as

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Speaker 2: per usual, they just went for the soft option. They

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Speaker 2: just censured him because he has got weirdly a lot

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Speaker 2: of support around the council table. I just want to

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Speaker 2: say in the cargo, I mean, I'm not being judgmental

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Speaker 2: because I lived for a long time in Wellington and

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Speaker 2: you know we ended up with Tory, so you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm in no position to be criticizing you for your

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Speaker 2: choice of man. But you haven't been choosing very well lately,

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Speaker 2: have you, Because after all of those years of Tim

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Speaker 2: and at the start he was okay, but at the

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Speaker 2: end he obviously wasn't and you kept on electing him.

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Speaker 2: Now you've chosen Nobby. Guys, come on word.

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Speaker 25: And how did they pass up Marcus? I'll never understand.

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Speaker 9: How did you choose Nobbi over market exactly?

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Speaker 25: Dove and she Claude by mc solar to play us

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Speaker 25: out tonight. I'm sure Lady Gaga and Celindion will do

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Speaker 25: an absolutely great job at the Olympics opening ceremony. But

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Speaker 25: as you pointed out here that know neither of them

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Speaker 25: are French. Here's a French artist. I would like to

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Speaker 25: see them give a slot to it the open ceremonies.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you immediately that whoever you think they

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Speaker 2: should give it to is absolutely not going to appeal

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Speaker 2: to ninety nine percent.

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Speaker 25: Listen to this, Heather and Ban Also, this isn't it's

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Speaker 25: based on nothing. Okay, it is. But Soa was one

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Speaker 25: of the Olympic torch bearers, so he has at least

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Speaker 25: been in contact with the organizers, so they may give

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Speaker 25: him a slot.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Just listen to this and see what we have to

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Speaker 2: deal with in the office.

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Speaker 29: See you next week.

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