WEBVTT - Claire Turnbull: Do vitamins really work?

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the weekend collective podcast from News Talks.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be resisting saying friend of the show. But she's

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of the show. It's clear term, well high clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's been like literally eighteen years since I

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<v Speaker 4>first started doing news. It was eighteen years ago. What, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm serious. Yes, yeah, so I used to come in on

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<v Speaker 4>Monday afternoons and every every week for on Monday afternoons

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<v Speaker 4>with Joanny Watson And then.

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<v Speaker 2>Really did you come in when you were a teenager

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<v Speaker 2>or something?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, thank you very much writing in here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've lived in New Zealand for twenty years now

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<v Speaker 4>and it was within the first couple of years. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>so I am a friend of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take you in a long time. And we, of

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<v Speaker 2>course we bumped into each other in Queenstown, weren't we

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<v Speaker 2>sort of end of were we at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>a holiday.

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<v Speaker 4>Or yes, yes, end of you know, enjoying skiin yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The South Island and all that lovely. Yes, we're both

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<v Speaker 2>managing our children and looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually having them being back at school's to be fair,

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<v Speaker 4>like both of you and I we we were at

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<v Speaker 4>the airport and We're like, yeah, did you have a

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<v Speaker 4>nice time? Yes, but you glad your children.

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<v Speaker 2>Are going back to fact, well, yes, we are always

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<v Speaker 2>sad the holidays over. So yes, hey. Now, now, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, we'd love to have your calls because pleas

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<v Speaker 2>always happy to take your questions about nutrition if you've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten any queries about how you can eat better or

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<v Speaker 2>make a difference in your life. And actually for everyone

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<v Speaker 2>who calls, Claire is giving away a free consultation with

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<v Speaker 2>one of your team as well as a planner to

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<v Speaker 2>the value of I think it's aout three hundred bucks worth,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it clear?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so one of my dietians of nutritions that mission nutrition,

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<v Speaker 4>a planner and an eye must to help you sleep

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<v Speaker 4>better because even though I, you know, work in nutrition,

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<v Speaker 4>my my work is much broader than that. Do a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of stuff in the sleep space, in the psychology space.

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<v Speaker 4>So okay, supporting people to be healthier and well generally across.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll pick a caller sort of at random, but

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<v Speaker 2>not really what pick a caller who we think deserves

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<v Speaker 2>the pack and give us a callight hundred eighty ten

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty By the way, funny when you said I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ask I because we live in this the data online age.

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<v Speaker 2>I immediately thought an imask that it was something you

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<v Speaker 2>plugged into a USB and it was as the letter

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<v Speaker 2>I mask, and I thought, oh, what's an I mask?

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<v Speaker 2>But of course you meant literally your eyes naturally, like.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the best school and school that literally changes

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<v Speaker 4>your life, Like it's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. The first thing I want to talk about is

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<v Speaker 2>and it goes back to a conversation I had with

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<v Speaker 2>a nutritionist, yolks Ago, and the solution it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was about basically eating better and eating less in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>but the way to eat less was to in this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation was like, well, make sure you start the day

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<v Speaker 2>with protein, because if you eat the wrong foods, it

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<v Speaker 2>can make you want to eat more of the wrong foods.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, And so is the key to reducing your

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<v Speaker 2>craving to eat is actually to eat just specifically better choices.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's giving your body the nutrition that it needs,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it's not going to You're not going to,

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<v Speaker 4>like you said, you're not going to be seeking out

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<v Speaker 4>sugary foods and salty foods and lots of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>too much caffeine and all these because we're just a machine.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just you know, and we need certain fuel to

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<v Speaker 4>keep our body working properly. And the unfortunate thing is,

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<v Speaker 4>in our modern environment, it does not a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the food that exists does not reflect or I'll rephrase that,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not that exists. A lot of the food that's

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<v Speaker 4>readily available and promoted and in your face does not

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily reflect what the body needs. It's really, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the rise of the processed foods is a disaster in

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<v Speaker 4>the quantity that people eat them because they're not supplying

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<v Speaker 4>the vitamins and minerals, the fiber that your body needs

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<v Speaker 4>to feel full, to feel satisfied. So sometimes it's really

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<v Speaker 4>actually going back to the basics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I mean it's funny. I always remember that advice,

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<v Speaker 2>and so when I'm having breakfast, I am sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a weird that if I just have toast, I say

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, maybe is this going to make you hungry

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<v Speaker 2>hungry later on? Yes it is, and then I will

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that if I am hungry later on or

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<v Speaker 2>heavy eggs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, it's really one of I mean, there's so

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<v Speaker 4>many different nutrients that we need, our body needs, you know, carbohydrate, protein, fiber,

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<v Speaker 4>all the vitamins and minerals. Right, the focus on nutrition

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<v Speaker 4>or a real interest area at the moment that the

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<v Speaker 4>spotlight's kind of gone back on protein again, particularly in

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<v Speaker 4>the perimenopause, menopause will phase so in that phase of life,

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<v Speaker 4>so for you might know a lot about this in

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<v Speaker 4>this phase if you're not. The average age for woman

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<v Speaker 4>to go through menopause is age fifty one, and perimenopause

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<v Speaker 4>is the seven to ten years for the majority of

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<v Speaker 4>people prior to that, so it's quite a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>And the average weight gain during that time is around

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<v Speaker 4>eight kilograms. Why is that because three things one, well

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<v Speaker 4>more than three things, but here's basic. Three things. One,

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<v Speaker 4>you become more resistant to insulin, so basically your body

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't work with carbohydrate as well.

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<v Speaker 2>As it used to.

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<v Speaker 4>Hormonal changes, meaning that basically, you women that may have

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<v Speaker 4>had larger bums and hips and smaller waists, you end up,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like a man, tend to stall store fat

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<v Speaker 4>around your middle and then your muscle mass declines. So

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<v Speaker 4>because your muscle masterclines, you basically become less metabolically efficient.

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<v Speaker 4>What that means is you're burning less calories just and

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<v Speaker 4>it's not your fault. That's just how it is. And

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<v Speaker 4>that means that with very little change the way that

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<v Speaker 4>you are eating and exercise, the average woman game around

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<v Speaker 4>eight kilos, which is just not fair. But that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>how it is. But one of the what this is

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<v Speaker 4>where proteins become of real interest because it is one

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<v Speaker 4>of the things that is important for It's not just

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<v Speaker 4>building muscle mass, you know, for super people that want

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<v Speaker 4>to get rolled big at the gym like it helps,

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<v Speaker 4>it helps maintain healthy muscle mass.

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<v Speaker 2>As protein the punch line it is, it's I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it's I just said that because it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 2>good line, and it was alliterative as well, well, but

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<v Speaker 2>it sounded like it is the punchline too.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's really what we What we know is that

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<v Speaker 4>if you know, if you don't get enough protein in

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<v Speaker 4>your meals, it's highly likely that you are going to

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<v Speaker 4>want to keep eating. And there's a there's there's a

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<v Speaker 4>theory called the protein leverage theory, which is essentially your

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<v Speaker 4>body is like an amino acid, which is what a

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<v Speaker 4>protein's made up of foraging machine, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>get enough of the amino acids, that it needs it

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<v Speaker 4>will make you keep eating.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay until you get enough. Well, this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what she said to you. That is the direction

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going on. And how do we get that now? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got some calls to get into eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty and eighty though, and we'll let's get into it

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<v Speaker 2>right now, shall we. Yeah, let's do it. Steve Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>how you doing good? Thank you good?

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<v Speaker 4>Good?

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I would. I'm a coach and I would

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<v Speaker 6>consider myself a high performance coach, and one of the

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<v Speaker 6>key aspects at the foundation are sleeping, eating and exercise.

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<v Speaker 6>Eating one is probably more challenging for me from a

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<v Speaker 6>psychological point of view to convey because players on my

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<v Speaker 6>team come from different cultures and what they think is

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<v Speaker 6>a good cardcarb or diet. Really really struggle with how

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<v Speaker 6>to deal with the cultural issues around diet and health,

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<v Speaker 6>and it really challenging.

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<v Speaker 4>So I used to work in professional rugby for many years,

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<v Speaker 4>and I fully understand, you know, the challenges, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>just you've got to meet people where they're at right

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<v Speaker 4>and actually move people in ways which work for them.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, when I was working in a professional sport,

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<v Speaker 4>it was very much the small wins and sometimes actually

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<v Speaker 4>you know, changing the protein, getting them to drink more, swapping,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, even just a variety in their carbohydrate was

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<v Speaker 4>a win because I was never ever going to get

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<v Speaker 4>some of those guys that had, you know, that was

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<v Speaker 4>part of who they were to change. And food is

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<v Speaker 4>so important to us on many levels. And if some

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<v Speaker 4>people it depends in sports. Some people will be like, right, great,

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<v Speaker 4>that's I'll try anything, and other people it's very difficult,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly if they're not the main cook in the house

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<v Speaker 4>or they you know, they live with parents and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's trying to meet people where they're at. And

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<v Speaker 4>this is with anything in well being and move wherever

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<v Speaker 4>you can move.

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<v Speaker 6>Pull.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to pull different leavers for different people.

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<v Speaker 2>What specific battles have you got with your the people

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<v Speaker 2>that you work with, Steve.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh Well, the challenge is their high school students or

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<v Speaker 6>college students. Here is that it's upon the parents in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of what they feed them and how they feed them.

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<v Speaker 6>And I am really aware I have you know, you

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<v Speaker 6>could see some of the eating patterns even when we

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<v Speaker 6>come to a gathering and we put food together. But

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<v Speaker 6>because of the cultural differences in terms of my role

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<v Speaker 6>as a coach is you know, as a pakisa, it's

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<v Speaker 6>very difficult for me to convey the message. I have

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<v Speaker 6>the right intent, but I still haven't figured how to

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<v Speaker 6>broker it. So it's an ongoing challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to do cooking lessons and this is what

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<v Speaker 4>I used to do. So I would get the boys

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<v Speaker 4>in and we would all kind of it was interesting,

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<v Speaker 4>and they would they would bring ideas of what they

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<v Speaker 4>would bring it home, and we made healthier versions of

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<v Speaker 4>them and tried to tweak some of the recipes and things.

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<v Speaker 4>They brought family recipes in, and we went through processes

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<v Speaker 4>of going, oh can we swap this and swap that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just trying to understand that and see where you

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<v Speaker 4>can move.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon, Steve, you start with the line, man, that

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<v Speaker 2>food looks delicious, but let's see if let's let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a look at it and see if it's really helping

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<v Speaker 2>us achieve what we want to achieve on the sporting field,

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<v Speaker 2>and just you know, start with the compliment and then

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<v Speaker 2>get tough. Get tough anyway, Thanks Steve, cheers. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to Beryl. Hello, Hello Tom.

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<v Speaker 7>Then clear clear just what I wanted to bring up

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<v Speaker 7>is that I know you're never adopted, you're nutritionals. Butt's

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<v Speaker 7>keep your point of here. Do you think that having

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<v Speaker 7>too much sugar in your diet can cause XMA?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a very good question. My mum's actually an x men.

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<v Speaker 4>My mum, my mum and dad a doctor and a nurse,

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<v Speaker 4>and my mum specialized in exmas. Good question, I really

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<v Speaker 4>like in terms, I would say no, Like I know

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<v Speaker 4>that you're going to say lots of There'll be lots

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<v Speaker 4>of books and there'll be lots of people online that

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<v Speaker 4>will say that like the way that people eat, there

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<v Speaker 4>can be definitely certain dietary triggers for some people though, dairy,

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<v Speaker 4>for some eggs in younger people. But sugar is just

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<v Speaker 4>like when you eat a piece of bread, it breaks

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<v Speaker 4>down in your body to sugar. Like it's just like

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<v Speaker 4>I know that people like to think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>brown sugar or white sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, if you sugar is sugar.

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<v Speaker 4>Any carbohydrate turns into sugar in your body anyway, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's just it's just a long chain of sugars

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<v Speaker 4>joined together. That's all it is. So I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the main things I have suffered with EXMA

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<v Speaker 4>a lot in my life. So once you've kind of

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<v Speaker 4>done there's you know, go and see your GP or

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<v Speaker 4>if it's somebody else, get skin prick tests to see

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<v Speaker 4>if there's any allergies. What are the key things that

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, obviously your detergents, your water. For me,

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<v Speaker 4>I have suffered with exma so badly for so many

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<v Speaker 4>years and did all the dietary things. It ended up

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<v Speaker 4>being chlorine. And I have got a chlorine filter in

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<v Speaker 4>my house because I use all the eco things. You know, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>everything's no perfumed. I can't wear all these different things chlaoring.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew, I know that I can't go into a

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<v Speaker 4>swimming pool, But then it's the chlorine in my house,

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<v Speaker 4>and it makes like the most difference. I've got a

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<v Speaker 4>chlorine filter, and I've not used any steroid cream or

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<v Speaker 4>any antibiotics ever since I moved into that house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good stuff. Hey, just a question, thank you, Beryl.

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<v Speaker 2>I am just on the sugar thing. So I've this

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<v Speaker 2>is I made pancakes for my kids as a reward

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<v Speaker 2>for just being good girls today. Yes, and I make

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<v Speaker 2>my pancakes with buttermilk and flour and there's there's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of sugar and there making syrup and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's something about the making them with the butter milk

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<v Speaker 2>and milk. Anyway, I didn't funny, I was expecting that

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<v Speaker 2>I would be starving at lunch time and I wasn't,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was wondering why, because there's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Decent amount of protein in buttermilk. I'm trying to think.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they are because the buttermilk makes some rise really

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<v Speaker 2>nice and.

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<v Speaker 4>They feel quite sort of it's kind of like cottage

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<v Speaker 4>cheese is if anyone's seen like cotta cheese has gone

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<v Speaker 4>like crazy on the internet, like on TikTok and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. But it's perfely like supermuckers are selling

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<v Speaker 4>out of cotton cheese because it's very high in protein

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<v Speaker 4>for its volume, and maybe buttermilk's the same. I actually,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm off the top of my head, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, eggs in there was eggs in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the three Well it was made pancakes for

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<v Speaker 2>four and there's three eggs in there. There's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of protein buttermilk, but there's two hundred grams of buttermilk.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so maybe well, I'll have to check out.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to do that in the break because we need.

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<v Speaker 4>To know because because basically you need around twenty to

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five grams obviously highly variable from person to person

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<v Speaker 4>of protein per meal. So breakfast, lunch, dinner, some people

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<v Speaker 4>need all, some people need less, and to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>feel satisfied and get what you need. And one of

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest problems, particularly in here in New Zealand, with

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<v Speaker 4>the way that we eat is it's tend to skewed

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<v Speaker 4>towards high protein dinner. You know, one piece of ham

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<v Speaker 4>in your sandwich at lunch and a tiny bit of

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<v Speaker 4>milk or yoga at breakfast. I mean that is you're talking,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, eight nine grams of protein not enough. So

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<v Speaker 4>the distribution of protein is important. And I can only

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<v Speaker 4>hope that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're going to we're going to while we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break, and we're going to google the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of protein. And right now, just because my my

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<v Speaker 2>pancakes are kind of awesome. In fact, I generally think

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<v Speaker 2>whatever I cook, I'm the best in New Zealand at

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<v Speaker 2>but that's probably overstating my ability. Anyway, twenty one and

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<v Speaker 2>all our callers, we will be from our callers selecting

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<v Speaker 2>passed four news talks'd be you know, yes, welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to the health I'm to bevers. My guest is clear turnball,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, clear turnbull dot co dot n Z.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's Claire with an I.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, all the latter.

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<v Speaker 2>As the fourth letter, by the way, no weird spelling

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's Cary on with the call. Show it clear?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeh?

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<v Speaker 2>Jan Hello?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>Him? And Claire Hello? Hi. I saw her on the

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<v Speaker 9>seven Chart program last week. That's Hillary. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 9>thing to a nutritionist, wasn't you what's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Not last week?

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it was last week. No, I don't know. No,

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<v Speaker 4>tell me what the story about.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, they were talking about flatulence, and I think the

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<v Speaker 9>nutrition iss that it was caused by fiber. But I

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<v Speaker 9>have found in I'd like your opinion on it with

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<v Speaker 9>a certain foods like cabbage, onion and peas, things like

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<v Speaker 9>it causes.

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<v Speaker 4>So what we've got to remember is, yeah, so basically

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<v Speaker 4>when food you've tuned it, it's gone through stomach and

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<v Speaker 4>it goes into your intestine. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>happen is it ferments, so you've got no oxygen down there,

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<v Speaker 4>you get anaerobic fermentation. What does that cause gas? We

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<v Speaker 4>all make gas. It's perfectly normal. It's normal for your

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<v Speaker 4>stomach to increase in size after eating right. And the

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<v Speaker 4>fact of the matter is, but there are some foods

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<v Speaker 4>that increase the amount of gas that is produced and

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<v Speaker 4>therefore increased flatulence, and you are absolutely onto it. These

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<v Speaker 4>foods are things like cabbage of the brassica, pulses, so lentils,

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<v Speaker 4>kidney beans, chickpeas, onions, garlic, and for people who've got

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<v Speaker 4>irrital bow syndrome, those foods are can be problematic in

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<v Speaker 4>large amounts and they have to manage the amount of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So absolutely certain types of food can cause gas, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just managing the amount that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>So great question, Thank you, No, Hey, thanks for your call. John. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember at some stage that there was some product

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<v Speaker 2>in the States called beano and it was and it said,

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<v Speaker 2>have a teaspoon on your first mouthful of beans and

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<v Speaker 2>it will stop the fletulance because it contained an enzyme

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<v Speaker 2>to help you break down the beans. Is that likely

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<v Speaker 2>to be true or possibly?

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<v Speaker 4>Because essentially there's a certain So carbohydrates are like chains

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<v Speaker 4>of sugars joining together, like really really really long chains,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's carbohydrates of certain lengths, like you know, let's

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<v Speaker 4>just say eight to twenty in a row. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>quote me on that that caused these problems. So it

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<v Speaker 4>may break those chains down so that they're different sizes.

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<v Speaker 4>So yes, it that may be possible. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>also if that was the solution, I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 4>so much work that's gone on and health recently. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like that would be in every supermarket. So well,

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<v Speaker 4>we never know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm surprised that what haven't used the haven't

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<v Speaker 2>used the baked beans good for your heart, bean makes

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<v Speaker 2>Baked beans make you out the more you fight the

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<v Speaker 2>video feel, So eat baked beans for every man, every real.

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<v Speaker 4>If you buy canned legumes, just to let you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Chickpy's kidney beans. If you want, you need to rinse

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<v Speaker 4>them very very well so that the liquid that they're

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<v Speaker 4>in is not going to be you know, you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen some people and they like throw it straight

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<v Speaker 4>in the can and in the dish.

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<v Speaker 2>That will make you particularly flegellent.

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<v Speaker 4>Particularly flatulent. Yes, so good rinsing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sonorous could even be the word.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, It's all part of the normal human process.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if anyone who eats a can of baked

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<v Speaker 2>beans without thinking, oh, this is going to have an effect. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>let's carry on. It's enough of my pure humor. I Calvin, Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>Hello there.

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<v Speaker 10>Tim, and Gorath and and clear. I've always enjoyed eating

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<v Speaker 10>different vegetables, you know, raw, and I particularly like swede,

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<v Speaker 10>which I've always peeled them. Yeah, and when you eat

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<v Speaker 10>a raw swede, that creamy colored one, not that there's

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<v Speaker 10>some other white ones which look like giant reddish the

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<v Speaker 10>proper swede. When you eat them raw, it just tastes

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<v Speaker 10>to me like carrots. So maybe Tim should try it.

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<v Speaker 10>But the actual skin on the outside, I peel it.

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<v Speaker 10>I haven't tried eating that yet. But here's my question.

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<v Speaker 10>When I buy carrot. I always buy nice, nice smooth

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<v Speaker 10>carrots from the supermarket, and I never peel them. I

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<v Speaker 10>just rinse them. But I've seen on cooking programs which

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<v Speaker 10>I never follow. Yeah, but I well, very small amount

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<v Speaker 10>of it. But last week in the soup market was

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<v Speaker 10>the first time ever I'd seen carrots with the green stalks,

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<v Speaker 10>not the fuzzy leafy things on the end, but just

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<v Speaker 10>the green stalks, probably two or three inches long. And

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<v Speaker 10>here's the big time question. I've never sort of eaten

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<v Speaker 10>that stalk.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that all?

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<v Speaker 10>What is that all about? Because that seems to be

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<v Speaker 10>the way they dished them up on these fancy Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My guess is you don't eat it. It's just there

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<v Speaker 2>for Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't know, because some some you know, with some with

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<v Speaker 4>some vegetables, for example, that it is dangerous to eat

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<v Speaker 4>the leaves. I don't know, to be completely honest with you,

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<v Speaker 4>whether you can eat carrot leaves or whether you can

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<v Speaker 4>eat the I think you probably. I feel like you

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<v Speaker 4>probably come that. I don't want to say that. Were

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<v Speaker 4>they serving them on the program, Yes.

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<v Speaker 10>On the plates, yep, all cooked up with you know,

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<v Speaker 10>with other vegetables. But I've I had boiled up beetroot leaves,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, the red le leaves, and they taste just

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<v Speaker 10>like sort of cabbage. So that's okay. But I've just

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<v Speaker 10>been curious about the carrots.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I feel like I've eaten the top

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<v Speaker 4>of you feel like I've eaten the top of cats.

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<v Speaker 4>We're now fascinated.

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<v Speaker 2>You did you know, Calvin that carrots didn't well you

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<v Speaker 2>probably know this, actually, you know lots of things that

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<v Speaker 2>they wh Yeah, they were either white or pale yellow,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were domestic purple or orange.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Well the whole reason that they became orange was because

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<v Speaker 10>that's a national color of the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does sound like a preposterous idea, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>got something to do with that. Yeah, hey, good on

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<v Speaker 2>your coven. By the way, I didn't have any potatoes

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, and I remember we were doing something.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, maybe I'll just boil and then fry some

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<v Speaker 2>carrots along with some broccoli. What's the nutritional value of carrots?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they did taste nice and sweet? Nice thinking they do?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they really sugary? Are they good for you? Or

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<v Speaker 2>what they do?

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<v Speaker 4>Have it? They do?

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<v Speaker 10>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>On all vegetables are on like all things are on

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<v Speaker 4>a spectrum, right, And yes, they are sweeter vegetables than

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<v Speaker 4>other things, but they come with the fiber in the

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<v Speaker 4>problem is when you start juicing them, right, because then

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<v Speaker 4>when you're ducing, your removing the fiber. When you just

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<v Speaker 4>wash them, keep the skin on the outside, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>eating them whole as part of the vegetables, you do

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<v Speaker 4>not need to matter. You know. Variety is the absolute

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<v Speaker 4>thing to go for with vegetables because the color of

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<v Speaker 4>them is a benefit. So yeah, yes, they are sweeter,

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<v Speaker 4>and the problem really comes when people juice a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, Actually juice's bad ideas. Just eat the vegetable

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<v Speaker 2>because you have a glass of water. Yes, actually, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness, did I give some good nutrition?

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<v Speaker 4>Well done?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, right, let's take some more calls. Leslie Hello, yea.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi him clear Hello.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I suffer from sort of naise or at times when

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<v Speaker 5>I eat certain foods, like I drink quite a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of coffee in the day, and I kick myself and

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<v Speaker 5>I've got quite an acid stomach, and I'd like to

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<v Speaker 5>sort of getting more alkaline bath. Yes, can I do?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So that's really well, the first thing if that's

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<v Speaker 4>a challenge for you. It's important to go to your doctor. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>next time you go to your doctor, check in with them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>just to check that you have got not got helokoback

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<v Speaker 4>to pylori, so you can get a bacteria that overgrows

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<v Speaker 4>in the stomach which can cause that problem. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>very nice that the stomach is an acidic environment. It's

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<v Speaker 4>meant to be. It needs to be because when food

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<v Speaker 4>has left your mouth, it goes into the stomach and

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<v Speaker 4>the acid is essential. It kills the bacteria and it

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<v Speaker 4>makes it safe for the rest of the food to

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<v Speaker 4>be absorbed. So it's not that we want we don't

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<v Speaker 4>want our stomach to be our clime. We want it

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<v Speaker 4>to be acidic. We just don't want that acid coming

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<v Speaker 4>back up our backup the pipe it came down, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So we do want an acidic stomach. But obviously if

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<v Speaker 4>it's causing you symptoms and it's feeling painful, what you've

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<v Speaker 4>got to say is so we know that if you're

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<v Speaker 4>too much caffeine, too much alcohol can cause that spicy food.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, one of the key things is to just

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<v Speaker 4>check that it's not one of these bacterial overgrowth kind

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<v Speaker 4>of problems in there, So go and get that check

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<v Speaker 4>from your GP first, because you don't. People often start

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<v Speaker 4>on antacids for like years and years and years and

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<v Speaker 4>they don't look at the kind of key problem the

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<v Speaker 4>other thing, which is not eating too late at night.

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<v Speaker 4>So if it's this is often a problem for people

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<v Speaker 4>in the evening. You need to give your stomach a

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<v Speaker 4>rest before you lie down, because that's when the food

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<v Speaker 4>can kind of the acid comes out of the stomach

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<v Speaker 4>and goes back up woods and that can cause a problem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>big gap.

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<v Speaker 2>There, Thanks Leslie. Thanks for you col Just a quick question.

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<v Speaker 2>I did remember someone telling us that potatoes once they've

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<v Speaker 2>been cooked and called having.

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<v Speaker 4>A lower glicy mac connect. Yes, why is there because

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<v Speaker 4>the start changes. So again, when we think a carbohydrates

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<v Speaker 4>are just chains of sugars joined together, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And even if you reheat them, it's still.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically it just changes the way in which they are.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like that the different shapes. If you imagine these

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<v Speaker 4>these little circles are all in somewhere in stars and

0:24:07.561 --> 0:24:10.641
<v Speaker 4>some are in lines, and and if you imagine that, basically,

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<v Speaker 4>when you cook a potato and then you cool it,

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<v Speaker 4>the shape of it kind of changes, and it has

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<v Speaker 4>what's called a lower GLACI theic index, which will lower

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<v Speaker 4>your blood sugar level, Like won't have as high an

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<v Speaker 4>impact on your blood sug level. So cool. Potatoes are great,

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<v Speaker 4>but most people eat mixed meals anyway, like you eating

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<v Speaker 4>potatoes with protein and fat, which in itself reduces funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I have just noticed that potatoes when we've eaten, when

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<v Speaker 2>we've called them and then reheated them, I actually I

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<v Speaker 2>think I almost prefer these you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I agree, makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Them feel like more newer potatoes.

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<v Speaker 4>They're quite potato salad young.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah yeah. Potato cella for years, got so much

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<v Speaker 2>talking about yeah yeah, well we yeah, exactly right. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be back in just a moment with your

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<v Speaker 2>calls and questions. Got some interesting ticks too, we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to as well. If you have ticks to us, said

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<v Speaker 2>two or three. I'm going to pick out there and

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<v Speaker 2>Joe as next. But there are some spear lines on

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<v Speaker 2>I went on, it's twenty four minutes to far news talks.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be yeah, you're back with the health AP. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess nutrition is clear, turnbull clear, turnbull dot code atis

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<v Speaker 2>before you go, some more calls clear which are lining up.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a couple. I had jaw surgery on Monday, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on a non cheue diet for six weeks. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>already sick of smoothies, mesh, vegetables, and yogurt. Any ideas

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<v Speaker 2>for things to eat?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, I did that back in Nah.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have given you a warning about the ones.

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<v Speaker 4>I used it when I worked in hospitals. I help

0:25:32.441 --> 0:25:36.081
<v Speaker 4>people do this all the time. It's it's a real bore.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm not gonna lie. That is a really

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<v Speaker 4>it's a real challenging thing. There is only so many

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<v Speaker 4>things that you can can you wait for the day

0:25:42.601 --> 0:25:44.201
<v Speaker 4>that you can have smat is it got to be

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<v Speaker 4>completely soft, I mean even no chewing, no chewing, So

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<v Speaker 4>I mean maybe it's just different things to stick in

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<v Speaker 4>your smoothies, mesh, vegetables and yogurt. I guess it's mash fish,

0:25:56.641 --> 0:26:01.161
<v Speaker 4>like you know some people when I was working with

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<v Speaker 4>older people who have swallowing issues who have to continually

0:26:03.721 --> 0:26:06.801
<v Speaker 4>eat like that forever. You get quite clever with making

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<v Speaker 4>like fish with cheese, sauce and like literally mashing it

0:26:10.321 --> 0:26:12.761
<v Speaker 4>Like sauces are good. Gravy is good, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, like like a tuna sort of thing which has

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<v Speaker 2>been mixed up with a bit of something.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really like it's if you actually start with the

0:26:20.201 --> 0:26:23.881
<v Speaker 4>kind of soft food and even when you like overcook pasta,

0:26:24.241 --> 0:26:26.601
<v Speaker 4>like it goes really really soft, and you do it

0:26:26.641 --> 0:26:29.721
<v Speaker 4>in like a cheese sauce, that kind of thing can

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<v Speaker 4>actually well. And even mints with mints, And I actually

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<v Speaker 4>learned this when I was My brother lives in France,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is how they kind of make up. You

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<v Speaker 4>use a blend, you know, using a blender, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>how you make a really good lasagna. Actually you get

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<v Speaker 4>the mints and you blitz it up a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>because you can. That can be done so that hopefully,

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's hard. It's not from working in hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Scrambled eggs can.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just about the way that you It depends

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<v Speaker 4>how much you can open your mouth, like this is

0:27:01.921 --> 0:27:04.481
<v Speaker 4>the like it all. It all depends on where you're at.

0:27:04.481 --> 0:27:06.761
<v Speaker 2>It's got go through a straw. That's as opposed to

0:27:06.761 --> 0:27:08.001
<v Speaker 2>if it's a mushy thing on a spur.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, if it's got to go through a straw.

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<v Speaker 4>There is only so many options that are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be there. If you are going to in a week

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<v Speaker 4>or two time get to the point where you've got

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<v Speaker 4>a bit more space and you're able to have soft food,

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<v Speaker 4>then there's more options. But it is I appreciate it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very challenging six weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, sorry, we can't really help you apart from

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<v Speaker 2>mix up your vegetables and just stick it all on

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<v Speaker 2>the blender and see how you go. That must actually sources.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe can you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And there's you know, there's some really good there's

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you should have been given some guides by

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<v Speaker 4>I would hope.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably probably Yeah, yeah, okay, thoughts and prayers for

0:27:43.721 --> 0:27:46.601
<v Speaker 2>you there. Okay. One other texts before you go to

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<v Speaker 2>our calls is Hi, guys, what foods are good for

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<v Speaker 2>lifting your mood? I'm posting in and pausal, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>big changes in my mood over the years. Appreciate your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>That's from sooths So such a good question. So one

0:28:00.561 --> 0:28:02.881
<v Speaker 4>of the keith that there's so many good important things here.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely making sure that you're getting five to six vegetables

0:28:05.721 --> 0:28:08.081
<v Speaker 4>to day. Like we know that the evidence around eating

0:28:08.161 --> 0:28:10.921
<v Speaker 4>enough fruits and vegetables makes a big difference to people's

0:28:11.001 --> 0:28:16.361
<v Speaker 4>mood having oily fish, so like there's there's higher doses

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<v Speaker 4>of a Mega three, So it may even be if

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<v Speaker 4>you're not having oil fish a good couple of times

0:28:20.961 --> 0:28:22.841
<v Speaker 4>a week, looking at a really good quality a Mega

0:28:22.841 --> 0:28:26.001
<v Speaker 4>three supplement would be something to look at if you

0:28:26.161 --> 0:28:31.721
<v Speaker 4>are and then having high fiber foods. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 4>main thing, if you are continually struggling with your mood

0:28:35.121 --> 0:28:38.281
<v Speaker 4>and you are eating you know, plenty of whole fruits

0:28:38.281 --> 0:28:42.521
<v Speaker 4>and vegetables, lots of fiber, lots of Amiga three, those

0:28:42.561 --> 0:28:45.521
<v Speaker 4>oily foods, and you are in that phase, it isn't

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<v Speaker 4>you know, go and talk to a doctor about whether

0:28:47.281 --> 0:28:49.881
<v Speaker 4>you can any hormonal support might help there, because it

0:28:49.961 --> 0:28:53.681
<v Speaker 4>is just and honestly, it's just something that some people

0:28:53.721 --> 0:28:55.641
<v Speaker 4>don't have to you don't have to put up with

0:28:55.681 --> 0:28:58.881
<v Speaker 4>because there's only so much that you can do if

0:28:58.921 --> 0:29:01.641
<v Speaker 4>your hormones are playing against you and you need, you know,

0:29:01.721 --> 0:29:02.321
<v Speaker 4>maybe to make.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, sadines are they yes solo?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah good?

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to check that. And that's a nice

0:29:10.601 --> 0:29:14.721
<v Speaker 2>retro food three as well as yeah, bring back the sardine, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's carry on, Joe high.

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<v Speaker 8>That's good. Afternoon, till then, Claire, Well love startines for

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<v Speaker 8>a start that I'm a full time caregiver for my

0:29:25.921 --> 0:29:30.641
<v Speaker 8>partner who had a brain bleed some years ago, and

0:29:30.721 --> 0:29:34.121
<v Speaker 8>so I have to it can't swallow very well. As

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<v Speaker 8>you just mentioned, I do a bit of mishmash. But

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<v Speaker 8>my main concern is nails are very very fungus like

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<v Speaker 8>and a lot of kerotine underneath, and so I'm just

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<v Speaker 8>wondering what would be the best foods or foods to remove.

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<v Speaker 8>Of course, he lacks a lot of sugary things, and

0:29:56.001 --> 0:29:58.201
<v Speaker 8>I removed that. I give him a lot of aviga

0:29:58.801 --> 0:30:03.241
<v Speaker 8>trees and and lots of and protein, but he really

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<v Speaker 8>if I was on there, you just need to kick

0:30:06.441 --> 0:30:08.201
<v Speaker 8>somel days. And that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's so challenging, and I feel I feel for

0:30:11.801 --> 0:30:14.641
<v Speaker 4>you that it's just it's you know, you're doing a

0:30:14.681 --> 0:30:16.681
<v Speaker 4>great job. It's a it's a big thing. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>really hard to control someone else's food when they've got

0:30:18.961 --> 0:30:21.441
<v Speaker 4>their own likes and tastes and things. I mean, what

0:30:21.521 --> 0:30:25.001
<v Speaker 4>we know for healthy skin, hair and nails they cut.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the key things are getting adequate protein. So

0:30:27.841 --> 0:30:30.121
<v Speaker 4>making sure that his meals have got plenty of protein

0:30:30.161 --> 0:30:33.561
<v Speaker 4>and is important for all of those different things. Zinc

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<v Speaker 4>which is in seafood, so making you know adequate fish

0:30:38.761 --> 0:30:41.521
<v Speaker 4>and other types of seafoods are really good as well

0:30:41.521 --> 0:30:43.641
<v Speaker 4>as red meat is a really good source of zinc.

0:30:43.681 --> 0:30:45.441
<v Speaker 4>So those are the kind of the key things in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of the and vitamin sea sapprenty fruits and vegetables.

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<v Speaker 4>When it comes to like I think you said, a

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<v Speaker 4>fungal infection or an issue with the thickening of the

0:30:54.041 --> 0:30:57.841
<v Speaker 4>nail that may not be related to nutrition at all

0:30:57.921 --> 0:31:00.801
<v Speaker 4>and be something that you would definitely be worth going

0:31:00.841 --> 0:31:02.801
<v Speaker 4>talking to your doctor about because it may be some

0:31:03.561 --> 0:31:06.641
<v Speaker 4>infection that actually needs to be true with medication rather

0:31:06.681 --> 0:31:10.841
<v Speaker 4>than nutrition. So if you've got the kind of basic spectrum, right,

0:31:10.841 --> 0:31:13.841
<v Speaker 4>I definitely seek extra support from your GPM if there's

0:31:13.881 --> 0:31:15.481
<v Speaker 4>a particular fungal problem with the nail.

0:31:15.601 --> 0:31:18.201
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, thanks for you call, Joe. Let's keep it

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<v Speaker 2>moving John.

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<v Speaker 8>Hello, Hello, good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 6>My wife she's type two diabetes.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, what she has found is that.

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<v Speaker 11>Eggs help keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Her or drop two childar levels. What's your type on network?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, basically different people have different responses in but

0:31:47.561 --> 0:31:50.841
<v Speaker 4>you know, eggs are protein and fat, so they don't

0:31:50.841 --> 0:31:53.041
<v Speaker 4>have any carbohydrate in them, so they're not going to

0:31:53.161 --> 0:31:57.441
<v Speaker 4>cause rise in bloogic levels like bread, pasta, rice or

0:31:58.161 --> 0:32:01.641
<v Speaker 4>any other carbohydrate containing food. So I mean that doesn't mean,

0:32:01.801 --> 0:32:03.921
<v Speaker 4>you know, people with diabetes do not need to avoid

0:32:03.961 --> 0:32:06.601
<v Speaker 4>or carbohydrate, but they need to be quite specific about

0:32:06.601 --> 0:32:09.081
<v Speaker 4>the type and amount. But you've raised a really good point,

0:32:09.081 --> 0:32:10.441
<v Speaker 4>which is what Tim and I were talking about before,

0:32:10.521 --> 0:32:12.521
<v Speaker 4>is the importance of making sure that you get enough

0:32:12.561 --> 0:32:15.441
<v Speaker 4>protein in each of your meals, which is important for everybody,

0:32:15.441 --> 0:32:18.801
<v Speaker 4>but particularly with type two diabetes because that will help

0:32:18.881 --> 0:32:20.201
<v Speaker 4>with the blood sugar level management.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, or good John, thanks for call. Right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to Kevin.

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<v Speaker 11>Hello, Yeah, how are you too?

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<v Speaker 6>Good?

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<v Speaker 11>Things?

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<v Speaker 9>Good good?

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<v Speaker 11>I've got a couple of handy tips for cooking.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 11>The first one is, well, you know, it could be

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<v Speaker 11>any fish, but you know I can put it here

0:32:42.601 --> 0:32:47.441
<v Speaker 11>that a decent size of snapper pillop, yeah, Russia punt

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<v Speaker 11>in the man to oven bag. Just tuck an under

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<v Speaker 11>punt in the microwave for a minute fifty seconds and

0:32:55.481 --> 0:32:58.441
<v Speaker 11>you will never have fish any other way.

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<v Speaker 4>No quick, quick and easy in the microwave.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, why is it so good.

0:33:04.881 --> 0:33:09.641
<v Speaker 11>It's still you'd have to try to believe it. It's incredible.

0:33:09.921 --> 0:33:12.801
<v Speaker 11>You know. You know how you can steam fish, Yeah,

0:33:12.841 --> 0:33:14.681
<v Speaker 11>and that tastes not too bad. But put in the

0:33:14.761 --> 0:33:19.001
<v Speaker 11>microwaves as quicker and not as much meat.

0:33:19.161 --> 0:33:22.241
<v Speaker 4>Well, if that keeps you, it keeps you eat anything

0:33:22.241 --> 0:33:25.281
<v Speaker 4>that gets people eating more fish.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd still want to fry it with a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of butter, Or still wouldn't they actually actually just a

0:33:29.281 --> 0:33:31.041
<v Speaker 2>quick one on the frying with a little bit of butter.

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<v Speaker 2>So like if I did the carrots and ball them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I fancied as being a bit like

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<v Speaker 2>a cheft, so I, you know, toss them in the

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<v Speaker 2>frying pans, just with a bit of butter and toss

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<v Speaker 2>them around till they've got a bit of a going

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<v Speaker 2>to them. Got a bad idea, or you're not too worried.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is it may eat them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, having some saturated fat in your diet is fine.

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<v Speaker 4>So I use butter when I make scrumbled eggs, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Use butter butter.

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<v Speaker 4>But but I don't But I don't eat a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of pastry. I don't eat lots of biscuits and processed

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<v Speaker 4>food that's got a lot of process I think that

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<v Speaker 4>there's room to have a little bit of cream, a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of butter if you're not eating like all

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<v Speaker 4>of the processed food and I you know, I have

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<v Speaker 4>thee meat, I eat a lot of fish. So if

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<v Speaker 4>I want to make my scrumbled eggs with a bit

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<v Speaker 4>of butter, it's fine. But if people are eating a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the other fattier foods and processed foods, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is it safe to say on that? So you

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<v Speaker 2>know how the salt is the devil and people talk

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<v Speaker 2>about you've got to watch a man of sodium. You

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<v Speaker 2>having a new diet, and so my wife will sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned to me, should you be seasoning that or something?

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<v Speaker 2>And my argument is like, darling, we don't need any

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<v Speaker 2>processed foods. Adding salt to taste is safe as how

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<v Speaker 2>it's is unless you've but of course it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a point where you overdo it. But we do.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're doing your own cooking and seasoning to taste,

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<v Speaker 2>is that still potentially a problem or generally you'll make.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how much? And you know so in New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's around seventy percent of our salt comes

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<v Speaker 4>from processed food, and in process food the salt is

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<v Speaker 4>not iodized, which is a problem because we we need

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<v Speaker 4>I we need id in right. But if you're not,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like me and we have very lit a

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<v Speaker 4>processed food, you know you can have a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of salt. The main thing is with your salt grinder.

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<v Speaker 4>It is amazing how much can come out in a

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<v Speaker 4>very palm your past, because that is you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's we really need to be getting less. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>just like, yes, having a little bit. But what we've

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<v Speaker 4>got to remember with salt is that your palate gets

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<v Speaker 4>used to a certain level of salt, and therefore, if

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<v Speaker 4>you want to take the balance out there, it is

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<v Speaker 4>using slightly less, which for a couple of weeks will

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<v Speaker 4>be like me and this taste a bit bland, But

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<v Speaker 4>then you recalibrate your taste buds. Okay, so it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>split in the middle. Yes, a little bit in cooking

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<v Speaker 4>is fine in your situation, but a little bit when

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<v Speaker 4>you're using a salt grinder, a little bit cantain a

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<v Speaker 4>lot well.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, and I say it's always worth holding it in

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<v Speaker 2>your palm and just giving it a twist because if

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<v Speaker 2>you're putting it onto a light colored food, you may

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<v Speaker 2>not actually see how much salt's coming out. That's the trip,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, on the pastry front, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to get you around to.

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<v Speaker 4>Tri microsotic us that I've seen so many peoples.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to see Clear Turnbull not getting stuck

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<v Speaker 2>into one of my arm and pastries. And then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell her what went into it. And I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>who cares. It's delicious. It's a treat anyway. Eight minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to five news talks he'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Been you can see.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to the health. Sorry is busy having

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<v Speaker 2>a chat with Claire about my cross song and the

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<v Speaker 2>and the and the the armored cross song I make anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>But back to business. My guest is Clear Turnbull, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were giving away. We are giving away, I say word,

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<v Speaker 2>because we've made a decision a consulting, free consultation and

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<v Speaker 2>a planner as well as an imask. And the winner

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<v Speaker 2>of that is our caller, Steve, who has young rugby

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<v Speaker 2>players who he's trying to influence on their eating habits

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<v Speaker 2>and get past the sort of cultural traditions they have

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<v Speaker 2>on stuff they eat. So Steve you're the winner.

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<v Speaker 4>Congratulations yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So our producer will be giving you a course Steve

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<v Speaker 2>to get your email and Clear will be in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with that. We've got about forty seconds to go. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't watched much of the Olympics, have you, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're so flawed out.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I'm desperate to and I was when I

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<v Speaker 4>walked in here and you've got all the flags going

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, oh, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this right. The fun fact was we're discussing this

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<v Speaker 2>is that a lot of those top athletes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of nutrition, they can get away with all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of sins, can't they.

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<v Speaker 4>They can eat a lot, they can eat a lot. Anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure there's been a lot of organization and planning

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<v Speaker 4>to get the nutrition right to get their sporting.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly on top four. Hey, thanks for coming and Clear

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<v Speaker 2>lovely to see you and Clear Turnbull dot co dot Nz.

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<v Speaker 4>That's great, thank you and we'll look forward to next time.

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