1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Barry Sooper, Senior political correspondence. Here, Hi, Barry, Good afternoon. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: Hither we don't have time to talk about it. But 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: I don't agree with what you said about Luxeon, which 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: part that he would be gone before the election. 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well how much? 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: What I don't know? Nice bottle of whiskey would do. 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Okay, good bottle of whiskey. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 2: On that. 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: I say he's gone before the election, and you say 10 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: he's not. Answer, you're writing that down for me because 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: I always forget my bets and then I forget to pay. 12 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: All you do. 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: Blame like case, Thank you? All right? So what did 14 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: you make of Willis's press conference? 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting, isn't it that Chris Luxen 16 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: is overseas at the moment in Smoa and Nikola Willis 17 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: held a news conference at one o'clock reminded me of 18 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: the COVID days, although the last words she uttered at 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: the news conference that she wasn't speaking from the not 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: the pulpit I always called at the poll, which she said, 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: the podium of truth. You know, when we'll get regular updates. 22 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: She's doing another on Wednesday. But what she's saying essentially 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: is don't panic and you remember the head of their 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 2: New Zealand Rabishanka. He said, don't panic, but panic slowly. 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 2: So you know it's not a great situation at the moment, 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: because the longer this goes on in the Middle East, 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: the longer, the harder it's going to be for the 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: New Zealand economy. I don't think anybody doubts that with 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister being in Sama will have held that 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: news conference and had a message aimed at soothing those 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: of us who are worried about what she says. The 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: government is doing on our. 33 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 3: Behalf, mitigating the impact on the New Zealand economy, including 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: what could potentially be acute cost of living pressures for 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: some households. I've spoken to each of the chief executives 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: of the major commercial banks and they have assured me 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: that in the first instance, they will be providing an 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: umbrella to businesses that they already work to ensure that 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: they can take them through less challenging time. From the 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: government's point of view, we need to ensure that any 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: support we provide to households is temporary, is targeted, and 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: is timely. Officials have advised us explicitly that reducing fuel 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: ex size would send the wrong signal at this time 44 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: and it would not be sufficiently targeted. 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: There you go, So nothing to worry about. 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Have you been speaking to Chris Hipkins's ex wife today. 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: I've been in a text conversation with her years she's 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: in Fiji at the moment with their two children. And 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: what she said to me simply was that she stood 50 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: by everything she said in her Facebook post. And what 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: she said in the Facebook post, of course, is for 52 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: Chris Hipkins is not complementary, to say the very least 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: at all. And I see you posing the question is 54 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: what should he do? Well, you know, the great difficulty 55 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: is remember it reminds me a bit of the David 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: Longie Naomi Longie fallout that a mate of mine was 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: sitting at a desk and the Sunday Star Times and 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: the phone went and it was Naomi on the phone. 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: This is after he had stepped down and she said 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: he was having an affair and suddenly all hell broke loose. 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: Not that he had to worry about it because he 62 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: was no longer the Prime minister, but he essentially did nothing. 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: And I think you know, when you have issues like this, 64 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: they are damning many of the public will know, and 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: the gossip machine will be working overtime. Who knows what 66 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: social media will do with it. But I think he's 67 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: probably right to keep storm about the whole. 68 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Thing, is he because he's considering legal action? Should he 69 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: take it? 70 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: Well, if what his former wife Jade Paul said, and 71 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: she says it's true, you can imagine the dirty linen 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: that would come out. I know Jade Paul, she used 73 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: to work around Parliament, a very nice young woman. I 74 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: mean their marriage lasted a very short time. They had 75 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: two children in it and was only a couple of years, 76 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: and they got married at Premiere House in twenty twenty when, 77 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: of course Jasin Dardun was the Prime Minister's show. She 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: was there and Grant Robertson was Chippy's best man. So, 79 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: you know, it's one of those ghastly things because you 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: know a lot of people, and I heard you your 81 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: scenario about when people do split up, these terrible things 82 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: about said on either side, and that certainly does happen. 83 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: I've known it over the years. But yeah, if I 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: was him, there's no point in him because coming out 85 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: because he'll simply fuel it. 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he will. Although a good bit of legal actions 87 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: sometimes also does indicate that you're you feel fairly confident 88 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: that it's not true. Barry, thanks very much, appreciate it. Barry, 89 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: so for seen your political correspondent. For more from Heather 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: duplessy Elandro listen live to news Talks it'd be from 91 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio