1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence with US. Now, Hey Barry, 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Harry. We're having a debate about whether Karmala's 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: speech was boring. 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: Well, you know, by comparison to the lead up, I 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: guess you'd say, you know, it was a downbeat. But 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: like your correspondent said, and I totally agree with him, 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: that she wasn't playing to the audience, basically preaching to 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: the converted in the Democrats auditorium. She was playing to 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: the wider public because they would have tuned in to 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: see what sort of person that is standing for the 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: United States presidency. The warm up was fascinating. Mark Kelly, 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: he was an American politician retired astronaut. Kelly said the 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: alternative to Kamala Harris would be embarrassing for the United States. 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: The world laughs at Trump literally, but folks, it is 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: not funny. 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: When he was president. 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: That meant the world was laughing at us, and that 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: was one view. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: And then Adam Daniel Kinzinger, now you'll be aware of him. 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: He was a Republican representative and of course he's changed color. 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: Now. 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: Kinzinger said the Republican Party has been hijacked and certainly 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: isn't the party that he once represented. 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: The Republican Party is no longer conservative. It has switched 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: its allegiance from the principles that gave it purpose to 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: a man whose only purpose is himself. 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: And then it was Kamala's turn. She again zeroed in 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: on the Democrat's public enemy number one. 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: He would use the immense powers of the presidency not 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: to improve your life, not to strengthen our national security, 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: but to serve the only client he has ever had, himself. 32 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: So that was a common theme at the Democrats convention, 33 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: not surprisingly, but you know, she had to present herself 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: and explain, I think to the public who she was, 35 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: where she came from, Indian mother, Jamaican father. I think 36 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: she did quite well on that score. 37 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see, yeah, I can see how that 38 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: does make it a little bit more boring if you're 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: not trying to hype up the crowd, but you're actually 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: trying to speak to the nation. Listen, who's calling David 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Seymore an idiot? 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: Oh well, you'd have to question who is the idiot, 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: and it's Tuka Orangie Morgan, who of course was a 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: former television journo. He said the Treaty Principal's bill. He 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: came out today and said that it's being promoted by 46 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: a political idiot who's trying to modernize a document that'll 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: make the eighteen forties signing a nullity. He said, if 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: the bill did go past its first reading, and you 49 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: remember he sounded off at the King's coronation birthday the 50 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: other day. Morgan says, the resulting protest action would be 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: at a level never seen in the history of this 52 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: country before. It sounds a bit like Donald Trump, but 53 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: you know, he speaks on behalf of the king, which 54 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: I find quite incredible. And of course he's the chairperson 55 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: of the Waikato Tanui Ewi and they now have about 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: two point four billion dollars worth of asset, so a 57 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: lot of power behind those words. 58 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: What do you make of the Taxpayers Union having a 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: crack at the government for putting that money into the dancecalls, Well. 60 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: Look, I think they totally miscalled it that. I think 61 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Luxon did exactly the right thing, accusing the councils, even 62 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: though they hated it, of spending a lot of ratepayers 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: money on things that shouldn't they shouldn't spend it on 64 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: and I see Hipkins apologize on to the councils today, 65 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: But the ratepayers came out with and I think that 66 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: the Taxpayers Union come out with the top five paid 67 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: chief executives around councils around the country today. The top 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: has paid six hundred and forty eight thousand, much more 69 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: than what the Prime minister is. And you know even 70 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: the lowest paid is not on a bad salary. He's 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: the guy that runs the Chatham Islands Council. 72 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: How much do you know what he's paid? 73 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: Two hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year? Do you 74 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: know the population many, seven hundred and seventy. 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: People, how much he is earning again to twenty. 76 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: It's about three hundred dollars ahead. 77 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: Divided by how many people seven. 78 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Hundred hundred, about three hundred bucks, hundred and fifteen bucks. 79 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was three hundred and fifteen bucks every single 80 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: week if you paid, because it's annually. 81 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: That's an annual salary. 82 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a lot of money, isn't it 83 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: so money to. 84 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: Be running in and you know, you look around the 85 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: country and the money is big for the councils. That's 86 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: what they Taxpayers Union should be concentrating on not events 87 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: that can benefit the economy as the dance competition will do. 88 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Berry, thank you very much, really appreciate it very so, 89 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: per senior political correspondent. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, 90 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 91 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.