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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Find.

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Speaker 1: You're one of a kind.

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Speaker 2: When two people are running at each other under these

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Speaker 2: run at style conditions, the impact forces are like jumping

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Speaker 2: off the roof of your house on your front. So

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Speaker 2: that's the level of trauma that your body is experiencing.

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Speaker 3: I like to have chunks of rapid footy New Zealand

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Speaker 3: players Samoa Tama will play in the middle of the year.

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Speaker 3: Why origins on I don't know any other code in

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Speaker 3: the world where you would just rip out their best

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Speaker 3: players to go climb to someone else.

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Speaker 1: There's a little trip playoff of let's say looking for

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Speaker 1: the try.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Look it doesn't contravene any more that I can think of, So.

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Speaker 5: It's a try sports title of us. This evening we

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Speaker 5: have Elliott Smith, Newstalk ZBES rugby editor and Claywell's and

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Speaker 5: newstorg Zibi Sport news director. Hello lads, evening evening, Right Elliott,

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Speaker 5: what do we do with the run it?

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Speaker 4: Well, we shouldn't have to make it illegal. It should

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Speaker 4: be common sense that two blokes or two ladies running

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Speaker 4: into each other at.

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Speaker 5: High sty don't do this kind of standing because.

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Speaker 4: Their brains are fully formed idiots running at each other. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: we've seen the darkest of consequences as a result this week.

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Speaker 4: But really it should be common sense that you shouldn't

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Speaker 4: run full tilt to each other. Shouldn't need a law

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Speaker 4: being enacted. But hey, if that's going to be what

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Speaker 4: stops it.

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Speaker 5: But it's not.

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Speaker 4: It's not because it's going to it would stop the

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Speaker 4: events being held. You know that the official events. But

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Speaker 4: two people in a park or die.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't an official event.

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Speaker 4: A Facebook event and people are still going to turn up.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think banning it would have any impact

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Speaker 4: on the boy.

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Speaker 5: Who died, Clay. His uncle said that what we should

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Speaker 5: do is have rugby league and rugby stars come out

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Speaker 5: and talk about it and sort of set an example.

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Speaker 5: Would that change things, do you think? Or would it

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Speaker 5: actually make hypocrites of them because they run at each

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Speaker 5: other for money?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean you could argue that rugby rugby league that

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Speaker 3: these sports it's a lot more controlled environment. While it

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Speaker 3: does happen, the chances are perhaps a lot lower than

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Speaker 3: something like this, where you're actually deliberately running straight into

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Speaker 3: each other. But maybe, I mean, these people look up

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Speaker 3: to these kind of things, and I tend to think

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Speaker 3: that these official events might have had something to do

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Speaker 3: with what's happened, you know, like if that wasn't out

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Speaker 3: there on social media, people aren't seeing that, right, so I.

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Speaker 5: Think there's been a direct link being drawn there.

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Speaker 3: So perhaps if we can find a way to legislate

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Speaker 3: against these things being officially held. But that was the

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Speaker 3: discussion we were having in the office this week, is like, well,

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Speaker 3: how do you actually stop people from doing this? If

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Speaker 3: I organized six guys and someone else organized six guys

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Speaker 3: and we wanted down to Victoria Park, what law is

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Speaker 3: there actually for the police to say, well, you can't

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Speaker 3: do that. There isn't one, right, so you know there's

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Speaker 3: going to be have to be some wheels in motion.

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Speaker 5: And then also the other thing to consider, isn't it

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Speaker 5: is that I mean, gosh, the cops are so busy

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Speaker 5: already trying to protect bad guys, protect us from bad guys.

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Speaker 5: Do they really need to protect us from ourselves?

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Speaker 4: They probably don't need to be patrolling local parks trying

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Speaker 4: to stop this would be like lockdown all over again,

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Speaker 4: trying to break up sort of little bubbles and gatherings

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Speaker 4: and go, I think that looks like it. Run it straight,

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Speaker 4: if you know, play again? Yeah, exactly. So I don't

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Speaker 4: think the cops need to be worried with it. But

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Speaker 4: really it takes even if you take a step back

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Speaker 4: and go, what am I doing here? And should I

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Speaker 4: be running full tilt at someone I know? Is someone

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Speaker 4: I don't know? Probably not? You know, just use your brains, people,

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Speaker 4: Lord it looks rough.

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Speaker 5: Hey, what do you make clay of what Andrew Webster said,

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Speaker 5: which was that we need to take the state of

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Speaker 3: It's one of those ideas that's great in theory but

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Speaker 3: in practice a lot more difficult to put into place. Well,

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Speaker 3: because the NRL is a massive commercial beast, right, and

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Speaker 3: who controls that commercial beast? It's the broadcast is essentially right,

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Speaker 3: The NRL is run by the NRL and the ARL,

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Speaker 3: but that they are dictated to a boy what broadcasters

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Speaker 3: want to do. And broadcasters love having a long season

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Speaker 3: and they love having state of origin, and those two

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Speaker 3: have to meld together in a certain way. Now, how

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Speaker 3: do you work around that? I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: because you have to either extend the set, the season,

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Speaker 3: the competition, or find some other way to fit these in,

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Speaker 3: but also not have the state of origin teams mean

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Speaker 3: the NRAL teams mess out. Yeah, so yeah, it's not

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Speaker 3: an easy problem to solve.

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Speaker 5: Is it even really a problem though, Elliott? I mean,

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Speaker 5: don't we aren't we used to this? We have the

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Speaker 5: all black players resting on super rugby games.

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Speaker 4: That is a bit, but to an extent, this is

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Speaker 4: worse because you're dragging out I think this saw the

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Speaker 4: statua was thirty six players state of origin, a whole

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Speaker 4: lot of players on buyers last week as well. It

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Speaker 4: did weaken the NRL slate last weekend. And you're trying

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Speaker 4: to talk up the NRAL and what a great competition is,

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Speaker 4: but for six rounds in the middle of the season,

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Speaker 4: when you're supposed to be having the best players coming

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Speaker 4: to their peak of their form, you take them out

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Speaker 4: and go and play something else. No other competition does that.

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Speaker 4: So then need to find a way. And look, they're

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Speaker 4: going to expand the NRA even further, but that may

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Speaker 4: actually be the answer. Is that once you get to

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Speaker 4: nineteen teams, you had in the pupa new Guinea team

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Speaker 4: the Perth Bears and whoever else you can actually go to.

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Speaker 4: Everyone plays everyone once and then because at the moment

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Speaker 4: there's twenty seven rounds, would be say twenty rounds, you

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Speaker 4: throw in a couple of buys, needs your break. That's

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Speaker 4: six weeks that you found that the competition can pause

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Speaker 4: for you play for you Kiwis test against some more

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Speaker 4: Figi Tonga, whoever else might want to play.

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Speaker 5: So you're thinking, logically, sorry, do these guys think.

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Speaker 4: Run straight at anyone? So no, they don't, because again,

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Speaker 4: it's product for the broadcasters. There was still five games

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Speaker 4: of n roll last week. Yes, it was that week

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Speaker 4: in quality and the Panthers and the Warriors and everyone

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Speaker 4: else lost players, but there were still five games that

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Speaker 4: people sat on their couches and watched. And that's what

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Speaker 4: the broadcasters want at the end of the day.

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Speaker 5: Why is it going to be okay this week? Aren't

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Speaker 5: they play? Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Warriors might be okay with the Warriors one

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Speaker 3: of the teams that aren't usually that impacted by it.

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Speaker 3: But we were discussing this and you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there's teams that have missed out on the top eight

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Speaker 3: or two they might have lost in this period when

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Speaker 3: they lost players to state of origin. So yell. It

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Speaker 3: was even telling me a story about Wayne Bennett, the

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Speaker 3: famous coach, said that he believes he's lost.

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Speaker 4: He's lost premierships because he hasn't had his best players

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Speaker 4: and he's been a number of clubs and because he

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Speaker 4: lost games, and that's meant they haven't finished his high

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Speaker 4: because of it. So it is weakening the competition for

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Speaker 4: another competition entirely. I just do not get it now.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't asking you if the Warriors are going to

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Speaker 5: be that would be like you'd be like, who are

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Speaker 5: you and what do you not know about rugby league

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Speaker 5: that you asking this question? I was meaning, other Warriors

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Speaker 5: going to be okay playing this week? Are they going

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Speaker 5: to win?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. The NRL is so unpredictable

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Speaker 3: at the moment, it's hard. It's hard to know. Even

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Speaker 3: more unpredictable than usual. But you know, they're a team

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Speaker 3: that's playing well. Would I like bet on it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: They last week I'm playing the Rabbit O's, who are

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Speaker 3: a team that's going okay, they're below them on the table.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I just, I mean, certainly, I'm not

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Speaker 3: think I would be throwing NRL or the Warriors into

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Speaker 3: my weekly multi okay that often because I just it's

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Speaker 3: not that we.

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Speaker 4: Have thirty years of the Warriors. Just when you think

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Speaker 4: they're on the up, they tear you right down again.

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Speaker 5: I know, never get your hopes up because they'll dash it.

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Speaker 5: All right, We'll take a break, come back to you guys.

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Speaker 5: Reach back with the sports Hittle Clay and Elliott with

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Speaker 5: me Clay. Here's a good one from Mark Boxing and

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Speaker 5: MMA is League. So you can't ban one without the other.

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Speaker 5: So we if we let people hit each other in

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Speaker 5: the head and kick each other in the head, then

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Speaker 5: why don't we want them to run at each other?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Yeah, I mean I get the argument, but I

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Speaker 3: still think that like boxing, for example, is a more

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's risk versus risk and skill. Right, So with boxing,

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Speaker 5: at least you've got some skill and you've got something

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is they're not wearing any protection

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Speaker 3: on their heads. And that's what you think, right when

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Speaker 3: two big bodies come together, you think of the injury

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Speaker 3: is going to be when your headslied, right, And we

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Speaker 3: see it happen in rugby and those kind of sports

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Speaker 3: as an accident. But this is this is designed think

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Speaker 3: that the proportion of when it's going to happen is

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Speaker 4: High, and that you're bracing for contact when you're in

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Speaker 4: the boxing ring or the UFC and this you were

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Speaker 4: bracing to hit each other. You're not bracing to protect

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Speaker 4: yourself from the contact. You actually actively seeking this hit

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Speaker 4: have medical officials there formates down at the park running

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Speaker 4: it straight at each other. They're not going to have

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess we need to accept that every

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Speaker 5: sport is somewhere on a continuum of low risk to

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Speaker 5: high risk.

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Speaker 4: Right if one people have died in that, you know

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Speaker 4: this is just.

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Speaker 5: Really high risk and without any real kind of benefit too.

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Speaker 5: It's just bizarre. Anyway, Anyway, I need to ask you

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Speaker 5: about Gary Stead, Elliott, what's going on? Is he is he?

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Speaker 5: Is it the end?

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Speaker 4: It sounds like it's the end for Gary Stead. Now

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Speaker 4: we don't exactly know whether he decided it was the

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Speaker 4: end where the New Zealand Cricket decided it was the end,

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Speaker 4: want to do all the formats anymore. He hasn't spoken since,

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Speaker 4: that would sugeduce that Gary Steid's time as Black Caps

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Speaker 1: I mean, how are we.

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Speaker 5: Can remember him Clay, because he seems to me like

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Speaker 5: whichever way you look at him, you can draw your

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Speaker 5: there were some rough periods, weren't there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think early on there was perhaps a perception that

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Speaker 3: So you can't really argue against that. And as the

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Speaker 5: Just some remarkable success. Hey, listen, we haven't got very long.

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Speaker 5: I just want to know from you guys really quickly.

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Speaker 5: What if you into a carpety decided in the terms

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Speaker 5: of the club Rugby. If you do anything that's naughty,

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Speaker 5: you're out right. They're really taking a tough stance. Should

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Speaker 5: others do the same thing?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, this should be a blanket thing across the country

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Speaker 4: stamp thing out if there's not gonna be any club Rugby

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Speaker 4: next weekend because someone acts out, someone has a crack

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Speaker 4: at the referee. I'm all for it. The more they

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Speaker 5: You know, okay with a bit of lip. No, it depends.

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Speaker 4: Where the line is, you know, come on, reef ARKive

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Speaker 4: one side, that's fine, you know which is what it's

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Speaker 4: approaching the line, but probably it's on the right side

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Speaker 4: of it. You've got got to draw the line somewhere. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and I think that good on hold a corpandy for

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Speaker 4: doing so. And you know more Union should do it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I suppose if you're standing there and having to

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Speaker 5: listen to you being a bloody idiot, that's not okay

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Speaker 3: And also, you know, like these people are volunteers, Like

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Speaker 3: if you're a paid professional at a super rugby game,

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Speaker 3: say it ea in park. You might expect, oh, you

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Speaker 3: know where your glass is ref or something like this,

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Speaker 3: or you know, even the odd swear word to do,

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Speaker 3: but you know you've been paid to do it. But

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Speaker 3: in the amateur ranks, I just think, you know, we

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Speaker 5: We take it very seriously, don't we really take it?

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Speaker 3: Don't we absolutely?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like too seriously. It's just sport, all right, guys.

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Speaker 5: It's really lovely to have a pair of you in

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Speaker 5: the studio. Thank you so much. Enjoy your week in

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Speaker 5: a sport. That's Elliott Smith and Clay Wilson our sports titles.

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