1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payments certainty. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Thirteen away from five. Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, is 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: with us in studio. Hey Barry, Good afternoon, Heather. What 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: do you make of the liquor licensing rule changes? 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think they're long overdue. Actually, that's been very 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: restrictive in communities. Under the reforms, only people from the 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: local community would be able to object to new license applications, 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: while applicants would gain a formal right of reply. So 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: that's a good change. The other changes will allow, and 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: you'll be happy with this one. When you go to 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: the hair dresses, you'll be able to have a drink legally, 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: So wineries, breweries and distilleries in fact off licenses. They'll 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: let hair dresses and barbers serve small amounts of alcohol 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: without a license. But then I guess the question is asked, 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: isn't it what's a small amount of alcohol? So I 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: don't know how they can be around that. 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: One small to you might be someone else with gigantic quantity. 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Precisely you come out, come out of the air dress, 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: are looking rather wonky. But then to tie the point, 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting Nicole McKee, who's the Associate Justice Minister. She 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: said the changes also included harm reduction measures, she tells us, 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: including barring delivery services from serving highly intoxicated buyers. 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 4: Here, she is Uber Eats is one example where they 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: already have measures in place to make sure that they 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: are delivering to the correct people. We want to ensure 26 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: that that's across all delivery services, and it will be 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: incumbent upon them to ensure that they do not serve 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 4: or deliver to those that are already well intoxicated in 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: those that are underage. There is a bit of a 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 4: loophole there in the deliveries, and so I'm making sure 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: that we are managing that and closing it. 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: How on earth they're going to do that, I don't know. 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: You imagine if you're an Uber driver, you turn up 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: to an address somebody's pissed at the door and wants 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: to take delivery of more alcohol that you're going to 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: tell them, no, you're not allowed to have it as 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: you're drunk. I mean, that's really putting a. 38 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Lot as well that No. 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: I just I think it could create for Uber drivers 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: and the like other delivery people a real problem. Well, 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: if somebody's boozed and you're, you know, you're keeping the 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: liquor from them. I wouldn't like to be in that position. 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: No fair enough, okay, So explain to me how this 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: electric office rent is working. 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Well. 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of a storm and a 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: teacup actually, because they're saying Chris Luxen he has a 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: rental property that he's letting out to Parliamentary Services for 49 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: his electorate office. And look, if you've got a property 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: you might be your elector office. There could be I 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: guess some would see a conflict of interest there, but 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: he's made it quite public that he earns about forty 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars a year for his office. But it's 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: not only that Labor's doing the same thing. They're getting 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: out officers as well. And these are officers that Labor 56 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: Properties Limited own, so they're all doing it. I can't 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: see there's anything wrong in it. I mean, if you've 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: got to if you've got to have an electorate office, 59 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: you've got the landlord's got to be somebody. 60 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think that Barry. 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: The problem is the perception that these guys are making 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 3: making bank of us because they are all right, they're 63 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: getting into it. 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: They should be getting. 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: Into it and serving the people of New Zealand, not 66 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: making bank. And every single one of them based well 67 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 3: that's not many of them are making bank. 68 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know, you own a building, you own an office, 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: you want an electorate office, So would you sooner pay 70 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: another line? 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Barry, I just answered. Sorry, gee, sorry, 72 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: I answer. I answered your question. Answer to your question. Hey, 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: can I have you seen have you heard what John 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: Tom said. 75 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: About I was going to talk about it, but look, 76 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: tell me what I think. The comments are disgraceful, to 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: be perfectly honest, and this is typical of John Tammerherdy. 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: And I've got to say the Mouldi Party, there are 79 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of protesters. They have seats in parliament unfortunately, 80 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: so I guess you've got to talk about what they 81 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: say and what Tamahiriy has said, not just that, he 82 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: said much worse than that about Nazi Germany. 83 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: It's just not all Hey, Barry, thank you very much, 84 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: appreciate it. Bary Sober, Senior political correspondent. 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 86 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: news talks. 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