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Speaker 1: Jason pans with us along with andrews Hevil. Good morning morning,

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Speaker 1: Mike Andrew. Your highlight of the weekend sporting wise was.

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Speaker 2: I'd say the rugby League last night. The performance of

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Speaker 2: Ree Walsh brilliant.

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Speaker 1: he can drink as much toilet water as he wants,

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Speaker 2: Look a bit, he's a bit out there, but every time,

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Speaker 2: I mean they lost, they lost their half back and

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Speaker 2: stand off to injury. So Walsh took over in the

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Speaker 2: last ten or fifteen and led them to the victory.

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Speaker 2: Not only on attack with his stepping and passing and

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Speaker 2: some of those missout passes he was thrown were just extraordinary,

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Speaker 2: but also his defense was outstanding, the last line of defense.

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Speaker 2: If only he had stated the Warriors, I wonder what

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Speaker 2: would have become of him. He would be a superstar.

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Speaker 2: To imagine with the Warriors, whatever team he goes to,

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Speaker 2: I think he'd be a superstar.

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Speaker 1: He seems bigger Jason than I remember. I watched him.

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Speaker 1: I watched the highlights, and that one of the tries

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Speaker 1: he scored, he broke through By the time the two

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Speaker 1: he'd broken through five tackles and most of that was

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Speaker 3: Or oh, I think they just stay in pretty good shape,

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Speaker 3: don't they, those guys? But yeah, he maybe it's a

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Speaker 3: bit bigger. Look, I thought it was a terrific Grand

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Speaker 4: Of late August.

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Speaker 3: They were down and out against the Raiders, came back

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Speaker 3: last week, came back and won that. And yeah, last night,

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Speaker 3: what a terrific game. And look, I think we can

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Speaker 3: been a terrific season.

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Speaker 1: Right, I reckon it has been a terrific season as

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Speaker 1: well as as regards the All Black sav I don't

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Speaker 2: It was bizarre. It never rains in Perth, is it?

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you've got a soggy game.

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Speaker 2: I think the All Blacks played pretty well. They defended

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Speaker 2: well only considering one tribes, probably their best effort for

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Speaker 2: some time under Scott Robertson. Still there's still a couple

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Speaker 2: of years lacking in this team. I thought Quintupaire played outstanding.

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Speaker 2: That forward's okay, Yes, there was a it was a victory. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it meant some consistency with two wins in a row

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Speaker 2: and what has been a topsy turvy, tough competition. But

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Speaker 2: I think there's still definitely some room from provemn and

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Speaker 2: are They're going to have to improve a step. Ireland

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Speaker 1: So who, Jason are we looking at? I mean, as

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Speaker 1: Ireland will be Ireland, so that's a genuine test. I'm

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Speaker 1: Go, Andrew. Just before we leave Rugby and get onto Nolan.

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Speaker 2: The positive mic. The positive mic is that they won

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Speaker 2: that close game, and they won what was a close

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Speaker 2: Well, it's the Australian seem to think it is. And

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Speaker 2: they're looking at a few league players I know from

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Speaker 2: what I'm hearing, four or five All Blacks if they

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Speaker 2: But I don't And it's supposed to start next October

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think also the fact that they're targeting

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Speaker 3: know about a rugby competition. Every All Black, every New

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Speaker 3: Look, I acking, I don't know whether money is absolutely

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Speaker 3: So there's some money to throw around. You're not the

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you have a look at it?

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Speaker 2: It's been very poor you surely this should have been

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Speaker 2: Look hiding behind this employment process in this corporate jargon

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Speaker 2: There needs to be more trans experiency and yes, there's

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Speaker 2: but when something like this happens, the public, the fans,

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Speaker 4: I just get the.

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Speaker 2: Feeling that maybe certain people want Dame Noling to resign

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Speaker 2: just get that feeling that they're just pushing, pushing, pushing, Jason, I.

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Speaker 4: Just think it's a tremendously sad set of circumstances and

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Speaker 4: I can't see Dame Nolen coming back now, can you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if they can't sort out the issues in

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Speaker 4: As you say, Mike, is just it's just so difficult

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Speaker 4: In goodness me, I can't remember a more corporate speak

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Speaker 1: That do you know, I don't know her I've only

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Speaker 4: I know her, No, don't know her. Look and look,

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Speaker 1: But how they're going to explain it? So so, Sam,

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Speaker 1: Nolean's leaving her. She and that's the end of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just the hiding behind the cop or not hiding,

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Speaker 4: supported paid for through our taxpayer dollars. We need more transparency.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Prime Minister wis.

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Speaker 2: If this was the All Blacks and this is where

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Speaker 1: It's they're lucky they're a smaller type sport. Which is

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's a small sport. It's still numbers at the

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Speaker 2: All those players, all those kids, coaches, all the fans

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't agree. I think we're all in agreement

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Speaker 4: I'll be watching them. We love that basketball at our place,

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Speaker 4: but man, they they they have been very poor for

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Speaker 4: four games under new ownership, which is odd. I thought

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Speaker 4: that would reinvigorate them. Hasn't really yet. Look long season,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, they need to get need to get a

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Speaker 1: You're watching Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bits here and there, Mike, Yeah, a

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Speaker 4: Have you.

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Speaker 1: Have you listened at length to Taylor Swift? Jason?

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Speaker 4: No is the answer I got, at least or even

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Speaker 4: at whatever The opposite of a short way. I'm aware

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Speaker 4: of it. I'm aware of it.

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Speaker 2: But and he's still on dial up. Jason, see to

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Speaker 2: me sometimes, don't don't send me a message on Messinger?

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Speaker 2: Can you fax me?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: Do you think he's going to listen to Taylor Swift online?

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Speaker 2: A lot of your music, Mike is now sounding very,

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Speaker 2: very very samy, isn't it? Well?

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Speaker 1: So is Hugh Grant. But they didn't hold him back,

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Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 1: You know I said, stick to your stick to your

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Speaker 1: you know what you do best. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I've looked at some of your bulletin save and I'm

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Speaker 1: saying to myself, haven't I seen this before? You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And that's why, that's why we love you. You're full

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Speaker 2: of variety, mate, You're full of variety. You never know,

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Speaker 2: you never know.

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Speaker 1: What exactly, you never know what's next. Nice to see you,

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Speaker 1: Andrew sebl Jason Pine.

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