1 00:00:06,815 --> 00:00:10,655 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,895 --> 00:00:11,935 Speaker 1: from News Talk SEDB. 3 00:00:23,175 --> 00:00:25,255 Speaker 2: Right over a little bit early, but let's jump into 4 00:00:25,295 --> 00:00:28,095 Speaker 2: the garden because things are starting to happen in the garden. 5 00:00:28,175 --> 00:00:31,255 Speaker 2: I've noticed new growth. I've certainly noticed the weeds have 6 00:00:31,615 --> 00:00:36,215 Speaker 2: have come away with a gusto and it's starting to 7 00:00:36,295 --> 00:00:36,935 Speaker 2: happen out there. 8 00:00:37,055 --> 00:00:39,895 Speaker 3: Good, good morning, Good morning, Peter. Yes, it is not 9 00:00:39,975 --> 00:00:41,535 Speaker 3: going to happen, can you hear me? 10 00:00:41,655 --> 00:00:41,815 Speaker 4: Yeah? 11 00:00:41,815 --> 00:00:45,095 Speaker 3: Absolutely, OK, Yes, it is starting to happen. It's unbelievable. 12 00:00:45,135 --> 00:00:48,295 Speaker 3: What's what's going on these last couple of days or 13 00:00:48,375 --> 00:00:51,335 Speaker 3: actually last weeks. It's in Auckland, as you know, but 14 00:00:51,415 --> 00:00:53,015 Speaker 3: also here in Grossier has gone. 15 00:00:53,495 --> 00:00:56,135 Speaker 2: Yeah we are Yeah, Hey, so you're back home. 16 00:00:56,655 --> 00:00:59,615 Speaker 3: I'm back home after three weeks on the road basically. 17 00:00:59,335 --> 00:01:03,415 Speaker 2: Reichy and working with the teachers. How's that going? 18 00:01:04,255 --> 00:01:07,695 Speaker 3: That was fabulous. We had two groups about thirty teachers 19 00:01:07,735 --> 00:01:10,975 Speaker 3: and they've been you know, basically we've been doing all 20 00:01:11,095 --> 00:01:14,775 Speaker 3: sorts of stuff. They learned everything about the environment, about 21 00:01:14,815 --> 00:01:18,855 Speaker 3: creepy crawlies, about birds, about whatever. And they loved it 22 00:01:18,895 --> 00:01:23,535 Speaker 3: and so did I. Fantastic Blake Inspire. It's called for 23 00:01:23,655 --> 00:01:26,615 Speaker 3: next year teachers, if you're thinking about it, Blake inspire. 24 00:01:27,015 --> 00:01:29,295 Speaker 3: That's it for teachers, Sir, Peter Blake. 25 00:01:29,335 --> 00:01:32,615 Speaker 2: Trust great, And you know, hats off to the teachers 26 00:01:32,655 --> 00:01:37,575 Speaker 2: that kind of give up their holidays for this professional development. Yes, 27 00:01:38,055 --> 00:01:40,655 Speaker 2: they could be sweaning about at home, but I'm not 28 00:01:40,695 --> 00:01:43,095 Speaker 2: saying that they are before I get a thousand texts 29 00:01:43,095 --> 00:01:43,695 Speaker 2: saying no, I don't know. 30 00:01:43,775 --> 00:01:46,615 Speaker 3: You just don't you know, No, they don't swine a tom. 31 00:01:46,695 --> 00:01:46,895 Speaker 3: I know. 32 00:01:46,935 --> 00:01:49,415 Speaker 2: It could be at home, or you could be out 33 00:01:49,935 --> 00:01:53,495 Speaker 2: increasing your ecological literacy, which is awesome. 34 00:01:53,535 --> 00:01:57,335 Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, that's exactly right. So we went it 35 00:01:57,415 --> 00:01:59,775 Speaker 3: tough for Annui, for instance, where we saw of settlebacks 36 00:01:59,815 --> 00:02:03,455 Speaker 3: and all these other rare things, just just unbelievable stuff. 37 00:02:04,415 --> 00:02:07,175 Speaker 3: But also we did stuff in terms of water quality. 38 00:02:07,255 --> 00:02:10,655 Speaker 3: You know, how do you get your water back in order? 39 00:02:10,735 --> 00:02:13,135 Speaker 3: How do you how do you measure that? Et cetera, 40 00:02:13,175 --> 00:02:16,935 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. No, it's fabulous, awesome, they're great. 41 00:02:16,935 --> 00:02:19,895 Speaker 2: Awesome, No, it sounds awesome, all right, And Blake inspires. 42 00:02:19,895 --> 00:02:22,335 Speaker 2: So it's what do you do as a teacher? 43 00:02:22,815 --> 00:02:23,135 Speaker 4: Apply? 44 00:02:23,295 --> 00:02:27,975 Speaker 3: And yeah, of course you nothing, okay, all you need 45 00:02:28,095 --> 00:02:30,455 Speaker 3: all you need to literally pay for is if you 46 00:02:30,495 --> 00:02:33,135 Speaker 3: need to fly to Auckland Sea. Sure, that's all of this. 47 00:02:33,975 --> 00:02:36,175 Speaker 3: The rest is all done. Are you staying in a 48 00:02:36,215 --> 00:02:38,935 Speaker 3: really cool hotel like a four or five style hotel 49 00:02:39,175 --> 00:02:41,895 Speaker 3: which actually they don't know, but that's making no difference 50 00:02:41,935 --> 00:02:44,975 Speaker 3: at all because they basically work till ten eleven. 51 00:02:45,215 --> 00:02:51,095 Speaker 2: And at six they're too tired to enjoy it. That's fair, inxastic, fantastic. Right, 52 00:02:51,375 --> 00:02:53,495 Speaker 2: let's get a boxstat folks, if you've got a question 53 00:02:53,615 --> 00:02:56,415 Speaker 2: for it, you should call right now. Oh eight hundred 54 00:02:56,455 --> 00:02:59,615 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty texts have started to come in morning. 55 00:03:00,095 --> 00:03:04,015 Speaker 2: My daughter has two small magnolia trees approximately one and 56 00:03:04,015 --> 00:03:06,815 Speaker 2: a half meters high that are struggling. They have a 57 00:03:06,855 --> 00:03:09,775 Speaker 2: few small flowers on them, and also their trunks are 58 00:03:09,815 --> 00:03:13,015 Speaker 2: covered in lichen. Could you please advise what she could 59 00:03:13,055 --> 00:03:15,775 Speaker 2: give them to boost and does she need to remove 60 00:03:15,855 --> 00:03:17,575 Speaker 2: the lichen from Jodi and. 61 00:03:18,255 --> 00:03:21,055 Speaker 3: I wouldn't get rid of the lichen because they often 62 00:03:21,175 --> 00:03:24,055 Speaker 3: have like and anyway, that's Magnolias is quite a good 63 00:03:24,095 --> 00:03:27,695 Speaker 3: plant that attracts that and it's really not that bad. 64 00:03:27,775 --> 00:03:30,935 Speaker 3: But what you need is balanced fertilizer, a good slow 65 00:03:30,975 --> 00:03:35,375 Speaker 3: release fertilizer. If you like, and sometimes I think it 66 00:03:35,375 --> 00:03:40,055 Speaker 3: would pay to give you asset loving plants fertilizers stuff 67 00:03:40,095 --> 00:03:42,615 Speaker 3: did you get for azaleas and camelias and things like 68 00:03:42,655 --> 00:03:46,855 Speaker 3: that and roses that, so it gives you a slightly 69 00:03:47,095 --> 00:03:51,055 Speaker 3: asset touch on it as well, but a general fertilizer 70 00:03:51,135 --> 00:03:55,415 Speaker 3: will do well. That's what it's about, I must say. 71 00:03:55,535 --> 00:04:00,375 Speaker 3: Julie asked me the same question about a magnolia. So 72 00:04:00,495 --> 00:04:03,935 Speaker 3: we're actually working on the same gig at home at 73 00:04:03,935 --> 00:04:08,135 Speaker 3: a moment, and Jill's was Jill's hates that the like 74 00:04:08,215 --> 00:04:10,775 Speaker 3: it because it goes I like, it's the like, it's 75 00:04:10,855 --> 00:04:13,615 Speaker 3: not the like, and it's not a big deal it all. 76 00:04:13,855 --> 00:04:15,575 Speaker 3: Don't worry about the like. 77 00:04:15,215 --> 00:04:19,175 Speaker 2: And yeah, now talking about lichen but not on a 78 00:04:19,455 --> 00:04:22,855 Speaker 2: natural surface. What can I use to get rid of? 79 00:04:23,095 --> 00:04:25,575 Speaker 2: Like in that's starting to grow on my car where 80 00:04:25,575 --> 00:04:28,615 Speaker 2: the windows meet the frame, and I must have I've 81 00:04:28,655 --> 00:04:31,335 Speaker 2: noticed it on mine, and you know, round door seals 82 00:04:31,335 --> 00:04:33,895 Speaker 2: and that sort of thing. I know it's not necessarily 83 00:04:33,895 --> 00:04:37,255 Speaker 2: a nature type question, but in terms of control what 84 00:04:37,455 --> 00:04:38,855 Speaker 2: moss control, let's say. 85 00:04:39,415 --> 00:04:42,935 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, it is. It is a nature type question actually, 86 00:04:42,975 --> 00:04:45,215 Speaker 3: And i'd like to say if I hope dan Venash 87 00:04:45,375 --> 00:04:48,815 Speaker 3: is listening because on his property, he's got heaps of 88 00:04:48,855 --> 00:04:53,815 Speaker 3: guys like that. I just love. I'll take the mickey 89 00:04:53,895 --> 00:04:58,175 Speaker 3: out of no doubt, and I've got fabulous photos of it. 90 00:04:58,295 --> 00:05:01,775 Speaker 3: So okay. So what Lichan does, Yes, it's actually not 91 00:05:01,975 --> 00:05:04,455 Speaker 3: one thing. It's a it's a combination of two or 92 00:05:04,495 --> 00:05:09,215 Speaker 3: three things. It's usually fungy. The fungi are the materials 93 00:05:09,215 --> 00:05:12,375 Speaker 3: that you see coming up, but is actually the heart stuff. 94 00:05:12,575 --> 00:05:16,135 Speaker 3: It's not hot, but I mean it's the physical stuff. Yes, fungy, 95 00:05:16,335 --> 00:05:21,455 Speaker 3: And there is algae. Algae is the green stuff of 96 00:05:21,575 --> 00:05:25,695 Speaker 3: the gray green stuff that grows on the fungus. Now 97 00:05:25,735 --> 00:05:30,815 Speaker 3: here comes the thing Peter. The fungie can make if 98 00:05:30,855 --> 00:05:35,535 Speaker 3: you like, they can become visible as flaps and things 99 00:05:35,615 --> 00:05:39,055 Speaker 3: like that. But the green stuff, the algae, is the 100 00:05:39,095 --> 00:05:43,975 Speaker 3: material that can do photosynthesis. It actually it actually takes 101 00:05:44,055 --> 00:05:47,215 Speaker 3: the sunlight from the sky and it takes a little 102 00:05:47,255 --> 00:05:50,615 Speaker 3: bit of the water from from from the wherever it lives. 103 00:05:50,735 --> 00:05:52,455 Speaker 3: And it could be on a plant. It could be 104 00:05:52,455 --> 00:05:53,815 Speaker 3: on a plant, it could be on a tree, It 105 00:05:53,855 --> 00:05:56,335 Speaker 3: could be on as you just hurt on magnolia. But 106 00:05:56,375 --> 00:05:59,655 Speaker 3: it could also be on glass, the glass of your car, 107 00:06:00,095 --> 00:06:03,655 Speaker 3: for instance. And here comes the thing that the algae, 108 00:06:03,855 --> 00:06:08,855 Speaker 3: of course, cannot keep more. That's how they collaborate with 109 00:06:08,975 --> 00:06:13,935 Speaker 3: the fungi. So those two work together. Wonders photosynthesis, the 110 00:06:13,975 --> 00:06:17,055 Speaker 3: other one does that it keeps the moisture, and together 111 00:06:17,295 --> 00:06:21,575 Speaker 3: they work and become a lichen. By the way, lichens 112 00:06:21,815 --> 00:06:27,215 Speaker 3: are six hundred million years old. They were on the 113 00:06:27,255 --> 00:06:30,495 Speaker 3: planet when life came out of the ocean and onto 114 00:06:30,535 --> 00:06:33,775 Speaker 3: the land. Lichen was already there. Isn't that amazing? 115 00:06:33,855 --> 00:06:37,255 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is incredible. So again I'm thinking, you know, 116 00:06:38,295 --> 00:06:38,815 Speaker 2: what do you do? 117 00:06:38,975 --> 00:06:39,135 Speaker 3: No? 118 00:06:39,495 --> 00:06:42,495 Speaker 2: Just well no, And also just you know, I got 119 00:06:42,535 --> 00:06:45,015 Speaker 2: the yute with a canopy and around the side windows 120 00:06:45,055 --> 00:06:47,975 Speaker 2: on that you can see that little layer of green 121 00:06:48,055 --> 00:06:50,695 Speaker 2: that develops in there. So that's not just one thing, 122 00:06:50,815 --> 00:06:53,455 Speaker 2: it's it's several things working together together. 123 00:06:53,615 --> 00:06:58,535 Speaker 3: That's right. Wow, Wet and forget. That was why Rod 124 00:06:58,615 --> 00:07:04,415 Speaker 3: Jenden invented wet and forget, for your roof, for your windows, 125 00:07:04,455 --> 00:07:07,495 Speaker 3: and for everything else where. Your likens. Now, it's not 126 00:07:07,535 --> 00:07:10,135 Speaker 3: that liking is a trouble, but it can be slippery 127 00:07:10,215 --> 00:07:13,935 Speaker 3: on a roof and is blinking difficult. You know, you've 128 00:07:13,935 --> 00:07:15,735 Speaker 3: got you've got to do something about it. And that 129 00:07:15,895 --> 00:07:19,135 Speaker 3: is how rod and all these decades ago started doing 130 00:07:19,175 --> 00:07:22,095 Speaker 3: what and forget or made wed and forget happened. And 131 00:07:22,135 --> 00:07:24,775 Speaker 3: so that is a brilliant place the thing to spray 132 00:07:24,855 --> 00:07:28,855 Speaker 3: over your your your your car, if you like, or 133 00:07:28,895 --> 00:07:31,495 Speaker 3: whatever it is, and you can get rid of it. 134 00:07:31,575 --> 00:07:35,775 Speaker 3: I wouldn't put it directly over plants, because you need 135 00:07:35,815 --> 00:07:38,775 Speaker 3: to dilute it a little bit for plants. But but 136 00:07:38,855 --> 00:07:41,735 Speaker 3: when forget wood, for instance, take mosses and lichens out 137 00:07:41,735 --> 00:07:43,895 Speaker 3: of your grass as well out of your lawn. But 138 00:07:43,975 --> 00:07:46,775 Speaker 3: do it half speed, half half half strength. 139 00:07:46,895 --> 00:07:51,895 Speaker 2: Okay, awesome, awesome, that's brilliant, right right. 140 00:07:54,015 --> 00:07:56,255 Speaker 3: One more, one more likening, and one more like it. 141 00:07:56,295 --> 00:07:59,655 Speaker 3: This is bloody brilliant. I'm like, I'm liking the liking 142 00:07:59,695 --> 00:08:03,055 Speaker 3: to I've got an Inkentterbury. But you get it everywhere else. 143 00:08:03,095 --> 00:08:09,095 Speaker 3: There's on the on ashfeltast. It's funny, yes, okay. And 144 00:08:09,095 --> 00:08:13,895 Speaker 3: and and that is called sexy pavement lichen. 145 00:08:15,615 --> 00:08:17,615 Speaker 2: That's its official scientific term. 146 00:08:18,135 --> 00:08:22,575 Speaker 3: It's not it's it's the English term for the scientific terms, okay, 147 00:08:22,575 --> 00:08:25,055 Speaker 3: but everybody knows it as sexy pavement. 148 00:08:25,295 --> 00:08:25,495 Speaker 4: Like it. 149 00:08:25,815 --> 00:08:29,815 Speaker 3: And here comes the thing. The Chinese have worked out 150 00:08:29,975 --> 00:08:33,615 Speaker 3: that if you scrape that stuff off the ashveldt and 151 00:08:33,735 --> 00:08:36,335 Speaker 3: everywhere where it is outside your house and all that, 152 00:08:36,935 --> 00:08:39,215 Speaker 3: and you and you mix it up a little bit, 153 00:08:39,575 --> 00:08:42,735 Speaker 3: you get and you get the same material. It contains 154 00:08:42,775 --> 00:08:47,215 Speaker 3: the same material that is the active ingredient of viagra. 155 00:08:49,255 --> 00:08:49,935 Speaker 3: Are you getting it? 156 00:08:50,455 --> 00:08:53,295 Speaker 2: I was waiting for that. Somehow I figured that this 157 00:08:53,455 --> 00:08:54,535 Speaker 2: is the path we were on. 158 00:08:55,215 --> 00:08:57,935 Speaker 3: That's the party. Party. Here comes the thing. If you 159 00:08:58,015 --> 00:09:00,975 Speaker 3: use that stuff that's been sitting on this rubbish on 160 00:09:01,015 --> 00:09:04,255 Speaker 3: the floor for all that time, and you scrape it off, 161 00:09:04,295 --> 00:09:07,215 Speaker 3: you also scrape off a lot of other stuff that 162 00:09:07,295 --> 00:09:13,135 Speaker 3: you don't. So please love the joke, love the idea, 163 00:09:13,255 --> 00:09:15,735 Speaker 3: love the name and or the but don't, for crying 164 00:09:15,775 --> 00:09:18,095 Speaker 3: out loud, swallow it because it must be so much. 165 00:09:18,055 --> 00:09:21,015 Speaker 2: Right, there will be a whole lot of unintended consequences, 166 00:09:21,375 --> 00:09:23,415 Speaker 2: right he Oh, you can give us a call right now. Oh, 167 00:09:23,455 --> 00:09:26,455 Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 168 00:09:26,815 --> 00:09:30,775 Speaker 2: A couple of other texts recommendations for fast growing trees 169 00:09:30,815 --> 00:09:33,535 Speaker 2: that don't mind getting their feet wet in the winter, 170 00:09:34,095 --> 00:09:37,055 Speaker 2: to give some privacy from the new apartments next door 171 00:09:37,055 --> 00:09:39,775 Speaker 2: to us. This is a Auckland story, of course. 172 00:09:40,335 --> 00:09:45,175 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine because it's yeah, okay, wet feet though, yes, 173 00:09:45,215 --> 00:09:48,175 Speaker 3: you can have plants with wet feet. Willows, for instance, 174 00:09:48,215 --> 00:09:50,335 Speaker 3: are very good with wet feet and those sort of 175 00:09:50,375 --> 00:09:52,935 Speaker 3: things because they are, for instance, in the natal and 176 00:09:53,015 --> 00:09:57,855 Speaker 3: some of those species of alex Selex live with their 177 00:09:57,895 --> 00:10:02,255 Speaker 3: feet in rather moist conditions and can stand that. So 178 00:10:02,335 --> 00:10:04,575 Speaker 3: look at things like that. So think about what if 179 00:10:04,615 --> 00:10:07,615 Speaker 3: you want in New Zealand plant for instance, or tree 180 00:10:07,695 --> 00:10:12,295 Speaker 3: or shrub, what would work in wetlands. Go and look 181 00:10:12,295 --> 00:10:15,215 Speaker 3: it up and see if you can find it. Second thing, 182 00:10:15,255 --> 00:10:18,335 Speaker 3: I would say, go to the botannic gardens and see 183 00:10:18,375 --> 00:10:21,615 Speaker 3: what they've planted around the edges of all the wet areas. 184 00:10:21,735 --> 00:10:24,735 Speaker 3: You'll find there's plenty to choose from. 185 00:10:24,775 --> 00:10:25,735 Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent. 186 00:10:26,175 --> 00:10:26,295 Speaker 1: Um. 187 00:10:27,135 --> 00:10:28,855 Speaker 2: So we've done the lik and we've done that, We've 188 00:10:28,895 --> 00:10:33,655 Speaker 2: done the magnolia trees. Ah, good morning. I bought a 189 00:10:33,735 --> 00:10:36,415 Speaker 2: home two years ago with gardens everywhere, and because I'm 190 00:10:36,415 --> 00:10:39,175 Speaker 2: not a gardener, everyone told me to give it two 191 00:10:39,175 --> 00:10:42,175 Speaker 2: seasons and see if I like it. How do I 192 00:10:42,295 --> 00:10:45,015 Speaker 2: redesign and make a beautiful garden for me and my 193 00:10:45,655 --> 00:10:47,975 Speaker 2: south Otaga kraky That's a huge question. 194 00:10:48,655 --> 00:10:54,855 Speaker 3: Mmm south Okay, No, No, that's okay, go to go 195 00:10:54,855 --> 00:10:57,455 Speaker 3: and have a look at some of the places arounderneath. 196 00:10:57,495 --> 00:11:00,615 Speaker 3: And because they have apart from the fact that Benen Peninsula, 197 00:11:00,735 --> 00:11:04,535 Speaker 3: you know, the peninsula there is generally a bit warmer 198 00:11:04,575 --> 00:11:08,455 Speaker 3: than the inland area, I think you should go and 199 00:11:08,495 --> 00:11:12,655 Speaker 3: have a look at some of those a gain areas 200 00:11:12,695 --> 00:11:15,895 Speaker 3: where the council has planted lots of stuff because they 201 00:11:15,935 --> 00:11:19,295 Speaker 3: know exactly what would work well, right, and that, honestly, 202 00:11:19,375 --> 00:11:21,295 Speaker 3: that is the best way to go. And as I 203 00:11:21,335 --> 00:11:25,135 Speaker 3: said to Jack yesterday, the cool thing is you can 204 00:11:25,175 --> 00:11:27,415 Speaker 3: also do it in the areas where you are living. 205 00:11:27,495 --> 00:11:30,455 Speaker 3: Go for a walk and you find things that people 206 00:11:30,495 --> 00:11:33,255 Speaker 3: have in their garden. You might not know what it is. 207 00:11:33,495 --> 00:11:36,295 Speaker 3: All you need to do is knock on the door 208 00:11:36,615 --> 00:11:39,735 Speaker 3: and say hello, we love your plants, can you can 209 00:11:39,735 --> 00:11:42,135 Speaker 3: you tell me what is it? Dada, where do you 210 00:11:42,175 --> 00:11:44,215 Speaker 3: get it? And all that sort of stuff. And as 211 00:11:44,255 --> 00:11:48,055 Speaker 3: a good Dutchman, I know you usually end up with the. 212 00:11:48,015 --> 00:11:52,575 Speaker 2: Cutting Yeah, perfect, perfect, excellent. Right, I will take a 213 00:11:52,575 --> 00:11:54,415 Speaker 2: short break. If you've got a question for it, you 214 00:11:54,415 --> 00:11:56,815 Speaker 2: should call us right now. Oh eight hundred eighty ten 215 00:11:56,935 --> 00:11:59,095 Speaker 2: eighty News Talk said. 216 00:11:58,815 --> 00:12:02,775 Speaker 5: Be extra governments here and abroad overcook the COVID response 217 00:12:02,815 --> 00:12:06,575 Speaker 5: with border controls, the world ground to a halt. We 218 00:12:06,695 --> 00:12:12,415 Speaker 5: artificially concocted the inflationary wildfire so hot that the ambers 219 00:12:12,495 --> 00:12:15,775 Speaker 5: burned close to the Central limits to this day. As 220 00:12:15,815 --> 00:12:18,775 Speaker 5: for those calls from Douglas and co. For Willis to 221 00:12:19,175 --> 00:12:21,895 Speaker 5: you know, her head on a steak, that's what they're 222 00:12:21,935 --> 00:12:25,175 Speaker 5: asking for. You've got to ask what exactly is it 223 00:12:25,255 --> 00:12:29,895 Speaker 5: they want and what impact would it have had had 224 00:12:29,975 --> 00:12:33,055 Speaker 5: she gone full Ruth Richardson in Budgets one and two 225 00:12:33,135 --> 00:12:36,095 Speaker 5: getting the books in line sooner? That growth number we 226 00:12:36,175 --> 00:12:39,775 Speaker 5: saw yesterday, the one that prompted the press release calling 227 00:12:39,815 --> 00:12:42,295 Speaker 5: for her scalp, would have been a hell of a 228 00:12:42,335 --> 00:12:47,055 Speaker 5: lot worse than zero point nine negative. So the waiting 229 00:12:47,095 --> 00:12:50,095 Speaker 5: game continues, which is cold comfort to many, But the 230 00:12:50,135 --> 00:12:53,895 Speaker 5: medicine for such a nasty illness was always going to 231 00:12:53,895 --> 00:12:54,855 Speaker 5: be hard to swallow. 232 00:12:55,095 --> 00:12:57,575 Speaker 1: That was a news talk zib Extra. 233 00:12:58,575 --> 00:13:01,615 Speaker 2: Ridio news talk sib AT just ticked over eight point 234 00:13:01,615 --> 00:13:04,255 Speaker 2: thirty nine. If you've got a question for British call 235 00:13:04,335 --> 00:13:07,575 Speaker 2: now eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Now someone is 236 00:13:07,615 --> 00:13:10,135 Speaker 2: being invaded by ants? What can they do? 237 00:13:10,295 --> 00:13:14,095 Speaker 3: Control? Oh, and control? There's many different things many different species, 238 00:13:14,095 --> 00:13:17,655 Speaker 3: many different ways they come in. Sometimes they actually I 239 00:13:17,735 --> 00:13:20,215 Speaker 3: think we've talked about this before on the AIO program, 240 00:13:20,255 --> 00:13:26,695 Speaker 3: about ants coming from the ceiling and diving down either 241 00:13:26,775 --> 00:13:32,215 Speaker 3: into a hanging light fixture whatever, or actually come down 242 00:13:32,295 --> 00:13:36,695 Speaker 3: and go down literally dead on the floor as well, 243 00:13:36,855 --> 00:13:40,335 Speaker 3: usually from a hole in the ceiling or near a 244 00:13:40,375 --> 00:13:43,975 Speaker 3: place where you've got some lighting. Okay, there's a couple 245 00:13:44,015 --> 00:13:45,975 Speaker 3: of things. So some of those live in your ceiling, 246 00:13:46,055 --> 00:13:47,975 Speaker 3: some of them live down on the ground. They come 247 00:13:47,975 --> 00:13:50,215 Speaker 3: in your kitchen, they know where the food is, they 248 00:13:50,215 --> 00:13:53,775 Speaker 3: go and make a wonderful place. Wonderful if you like 249 00:13:53,895 --> 00:13:58,215 Speaker 3: a road from where the food is spilt behind the 250 00:13:58,295 --> 00:14:02,935 Speaker 3: stove to their outside nest, if you like all that 251 00:14:02,975 --> 00:14:06,975 Speaker 3: sort of stuff. Are different kind of ants, some like proteins, 252 00:14:07,055 --> 00:14:10,695 Speaker 3: some like sweets, so they are also if you like 253 00:14:10,855 --> 00:14:13,735 Speaker 3: liking different foods, and that has something to do with 254 00:14:13,815 --> 00:14:18,055 Speaker 3: the way you control it as well. Okay, some ants creatures, 255 00:14:18,175 --> 00:14:21,495 Speaker 3: some ants like sweet materials. So what you use then 256 00:14:21,655 --> 00:14:24,655 Speaker 3: is a sugar e base if you like the protein 257 00:14:24,655 --> 00:14:27,855 Speaker 3: ones have a protein base. But basically what I find 258 00:14:28,215 --> 00:14:31,415 Speaker 3: very pretty good was the ns in your pants. That 259 00:14:31,575 --> 00:14:34,575 Speaker 3: is a bait that another wet and forget bait that 260 00:14:34,655 --> 00:14:39,695 Speaker 3: we did with what's the space? And the point here 261 00:14:39,775 --> 00:14:43,615 Speaker 3: is that you put these little bits of attractant in 262 00:14:43,775 --> 00:14:47,135 Speaker 3: various places where those ends come into your house or 263 00:14:47,175 --> 00:14:50,975 Speaker 3: I into your house. And remember, most ants have their 264 00:14:51,055 --> 00:14:55,815 Speaker 3: own territory, so don't just use one place one attractant, 265 00:14:56,055 --> 00:14:58,975 Speaker 3: but do it every two or three meters. They are 266 00:14:58,975 --> 00:15:02,775 Speaker 3: different colonies and they don't go over each other's territory, 267 00:15:02,895 --> 00:15:06,455 Speaker 3: so you need different of different places where you put 268 00:15:06,495 --> 00:15:08,655 Speaker 3: bait if you like. So all these baits that you 269 00:15:08,695 --> 00:15:15,135 Speaker 3: can get in various shops basically need multiple sites we 270 00:15:15,575 --> 00:15:16,975 Speaker 3: catch them. That's important. 271 00:15:17,015 --> 00:15:22,255 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, excellent, right now talking about things inside that 272 00:15:22,335 --> 00:15:26,455 Speaker 2: we maybe don't want. Gay, good morning, Good. 273 00:15:26,255 --> 00:15:31,855 Speaker 6: Morning, to be good Hi Gay, Yes, Hi, route I am. 274 00:15:31,975 --> 00:15:34,615 Speaker 6: For the last two years, I've nearly gone crazy. I 275 00:15:34,735 --> 00:15:39,055 Speaker 6: moved into my house two years ago, and both summers 276 00:15:39,255 --> 00:15:42,895 Speaker 6: I've been persecuted by flies, and nobody seems to be 277 00:15:42,935 --> 00:15:45,335 Speaker 6: able to tell me why I have them so badly. 278 00:15:45,455 --> 00:15:47,495 Speaker 6: Nobody else seems to be getting them like I do. 279 00:15:48,695 --> 00:15:52,495 Speaker 3: Oh still where First of all, whereabouts do you live? 280 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:53,055 Speaker 3: Which area? 281 00:15:54,215 --> 00:15:57,175 Speaker 6: Northcote Point, England? 282 00:15:57,935 --> 00:16:00,255 Speaker 3: Right? Do you have your windows open? 283 00:16:02,095 --> 00:16:04,775 Speaker 6: I I try not to have them open too much 284 00:16:04,815 --> 00:16:07,695 Speaker 6: because I don't want them flying. I've got a fly 285 00:16:07,895 --> 00:16:10,935 Speaker 6: screen on my bigger window, but I have a dog 286 00:16:11,015 --> 00:16:15,575 Speaker 6: so it has to go outside occasionally. Sure, but they think, 287 00:16:15,655 --> 00:16:18,815 Speaker 6: I mean, they're just beyond a joke. I've never had 288 00:16:18,855 --> 00:16:20,215 Speaker 6: anything like this before. 289 00:16:20,975 --> 00:16:24,295 Speaker 3: Can you tell? Can you have you well, it's hard 290 00:16:24,335 --> 00:16:27,255 Speaker 3: to do that. It might be an idea to take 291 00:16:27,335 --> 00:16:30,015 Speaker 3: if you can, and especially if they sit still or 292 00:16:30,095 --> 00:16:32,495 Speaker 3: even if they're dead in the window sill. You know, 293 00:16:32,535 --> 00:16:36,215 Speaker 3: if they're numerous, it doesn't matter. Can you take a 294 00:16:36,255 --> 00:16:39,855 Speaker 3: really good picture of that fly when it's lying down 295 00:16:40,055 --> 00:16:42,695 Speaker 3: or sitting up, or boat or if they're all together, 296 00:16:43,015 --> 00:16:45,295 Speaker 3: as close as you can and as accurate and as 297 00:16:45,335 --> 00:16:47,735 Speaker 3: sharp as you can. And then what I want you 298 00:16:47,775 --> 00:16:52,015 Speaker 3: to do is download an app called eye Natural List. 299 00:16:52,455 --> 00:16:56,535 Speaker 3: So it's one word yep, okay, And once you get 300 00:16:56,575 --> 00:16:58,495 Speaker 3: your use the name in the past, which cost you nothink, 301 00:16:58,735 --> 00:17:02,535 Speaker 3: it can identify what the creature is. What you can 302 00:17:02,575 --> 00:17:04,255 Speaker 3: do then is you can come back to me or 303 00:17:04,375 --> 00:17:06,255 Speaker 3: ring ring us up again. At the least I know 304 00:17:06,415 --> 00:17:08,895 Speaker 3: or what species it is, but I'll bet you it's 305 00:17:08,895 --> 00:17:11,535 Speaker 3: something like a house house fly or something like that. 306 00:17:12,375 --> 00:17:15,375 Speaker 6: There's the ordinary little house flies. But then it's kind 307 00:17:15,415 --> 00:17:17,295 Speaker 6: of bigger green, you know, the ones that look a 308 00:17:17,335 --> 00:17:22,215 Speaker 6: bit green, the big ones. They're not like horse flies 309 00:17:22,295 --> 00:17:25,375 Speaker 6: or anything like that. They're a bigger kind of But. 310 00:17:25,295 --> 00:17:27,895 Speaker 3: In that case, I think it would be. Therefore, it's 311 00:17:27,935 --> 00:17:32,335 Speaker 3: quite important to actually identify this. Yeah, and here's another 312 00:17:32,415 --> 00:17:36,015 Speaker 3: little trick. Here's another little trick that goes for blowflies 313 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:38,335 Speaker 3: and house flies and some of the other ones. And 314 00:17:38,375 --> 00:17:41,415 Speaker 3: it is that if you have your window open, for instance, 315 00:17:41,535 --> 00:17:45,415 Speaker 3: on the leeward side, so not on the windy side 316 00:17:45,455 --> 00:17:48,295 Speaker 3: of the house, but on the protected side of the house, 317 00:17:48,775 --> 00:17:50,815 Speaker 3: that's where the flies come in. 318 00:17:51,855 --> 00:17:54,455 Speaker 6: The trouble is, I'm pretty protected everywhere, because you know 319 00:17:54,495 --> 00:17:57,935 Speaker 6: what it's like in a suburb like Northcote Point that's 320 00:17:57,975 --> 00:18:01,655 Speaker 6: houses on every side. I've even put something enighborly to 321 00:18:01,775 --> 00:18:04,175 Speaker 6: ask does anybody have a compost cheap or anything? But 322 00:18:04,255 --> 00:18:07,735 Speaker 6: nobody's replied to me, so hmm, I don't know. 323 00:18:08,815 --> 00:18:11,895 Speaker 2: But can I ask a rather delicate question which comes 324 00:18:11,935 --> 00:18:15,855 Speaker 2: through from the texture. Is it related to having a dog? 325 00:18:17,535 --> 00:18:20,575 Speaker 6: I don't think so, because my dogs don't crap in 326 00:18:20,575 --> 00:18:23,775 Speaker 6: the garden and I take them out, you know, take 327 00:18:23,815 --> 00:18:26,175 Speaker 6: them out. So I don't think it is because when 328 00:18:26,175 --> 00:18:28,855 Speaker 6: I was I lived in Casta Bay before and I 329 00:18:28,895 --> 00:18:30,695 Speaker 6: was up on a hill, and I know that flies 330 00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:34,015 Speaker 6: don't really like to go flying up up, you know, 331 00:18:34,815 --> 00:18:37,455 Speaker 6: And but I know i'd see one or two, but 332 00:18:37,575 --> 00:18:40,375 Speaker 6: nothing like this. I mean, it's it's just embarrassing. 333 00:18:41,575 --> 00:18:46,895 Speaker 3: Wow mm hmm. But but in general, in general, when 334 00:18:46,935 --> 00:18:49,015 Speaker 3: I'm talking, and this is something that other people might 335 00:18:49,175 --> 00:18:51,855 Speaker 3: benefit from. And if you have like from now on 336 00:18:51,935 --> 00:18:54,855 Speaker 3: spring and then all and then you know, summer, if 337 00:18:54,895 --> 00:18:58,375 Speaker 3: you have your windows open, not on the windy side, 338 00:18:58,455 --> 00:19:02,415 Speaker 3: but on the on the sheltered side, that's that's exactly 339 00:19:02,455 --> 00:19:04,695 Speaker 3: the place where flies like to hang out. They do 340 00:19:04,855 --> 00:19:07,975 Speaker 3: not like the windy side of your house. So if 341 00:19:08,015 --> 00:19:09,735 Speaker 3: you ever have your lip windows off or do it 342 00:19:09,775 --> 00:19:10,615 Speaker 3: on the windy. 343 00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:12,695 Speaker 6: Side, Okay, I will do that. 344 00:19:13,135 --> 00:19:15,975 Speaker 3: Okay, that might be the one that stops them from 345 00:19:16,015 --> 00:19:17,935 Speaker 3: coming in in big numbers. 346 00:19:18,575 --> 00:19:22,375 Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, well I'll try. I'll get back to again 347 00:19:22,415 --> 00:19:22,935 Speaker 6: in the summer. 348 00:19:23,095 --> 00:19:25,815 Speaker 2: Let's really know how you get on. Thank you, gay, 349 00:19:28,495 --> 00:19:32,135 Speaker 2: take care. There's a ticks here about bor x or 350 00:19:32,335 --> 00:19:33,495 Speaker 2: sugar for the end. 351 00:19:33,855 --> 00:19:37,135 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. There are some of those wonderful Borx 352 00:19:37,135 --> 00:19:40,055 Speaker 3: things that you can use with sugar or with a 353 00:19:40,175 --> 00:19:44,415 Speaker 3: protein something like peanut butter. That is for the protein 354 00:19:44,455 --> 00:19:48,815 Speaker 3: feeding ends right the box system material that actually kills 355 00:19:48,855 --> 00:19:51,535 Speaker 3: the end. So you either attract them with sugary type 356 00:19:51,575 --> 00:19:54,615 Speaker 3: thing or or what do you call it, anything that 357 00:19:55,335 --> 00:19:57,735 Speaker 3: you know came out of an came out of a 358 00:19:57,815 --> 00:20:01,335 Speaker 3: sugary place, yes, or you use the protein material like 359 00:20:01,415 --> 00:20:05,935 Speaker 3: peanut butter as the attractant. That's right, Okay, makes sense 360 00:20:06,055 --> 00:20:07,495 Speaker 3: that it's the old questioned way. 361 00:20:07,895 --> 00:20:10,135 Speaker 2: Fantastic, right, you know, we'll take short break. We'll talk 362 00:20:10,175 --> 00:20:21,815 Speaker 2: to Michael after the break. You're the climb pass coming 363 00:20:21,935 --> 00:20:29,615 Speaker 2: up nine minutes away from nine o'clock. Michael, Good morning, Yes, Hello, 364 00:20:29,655 --> 00:20:30,455 Speaker 2: How I am Michael? 365 00:20:31,135 --> 00:20:31,615 Speaker 4: Pretty good? 366 00:20:31,615 --> 00:20:33,095 Speaker 7: Pretty good? 367 00:20:38,815 --> 00:20:42,615 Speaker 4: Yeah? 368 00:20:42,655 --> 00:20:44,255 Speaker 3: Am I am? I. 369 00:20:44,255 --> 00:20:46,375 Speaker 2: I don't think you're the only one having trouble with that. 370 00:20:46,415 --> 00:20:52,375 Speaker 2: We might see whether we can get a bit of line. 371 00:20:52,695 --> 00:20:55,095 Speaker 2: Do we actually have two mites in New Zealand. 372 00:20:55,295 --> 00:20:57,455 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a couple of species. We've got native 373 00:20:57,495 --> 00:20:59,935 Speaker 3: ones and we've got the invasive ones or in exotic 374 00:20:59,975 --> 00:21:04,255 Speaker 3: ones as well, and they all have little different ways 375 00:21:04,255 --> 00:21:07,255 Speaker 3: of moving around. But I just want to know what 376 00:21:07,375 --> 00:21:10,895 Speaker 3: the termites are doing at his place because that's quite interesting. 377 00:21:11,695 --> 00:21:14,255 Speaker 2: Because you know, just in terms of building, I know, 378 00:21:14,535 --> 00:21:19,455 Speaker 2: for example, in Australia, there's really strict controls around like 379 00:21:19,535 --> 00:21:23,575 Speaker 2: timber piles and so on to stop infestation. There's quite 380 00:21:23,615 --> 00:21:26,935 Speaker 2: a move to you know, steel framing because obviously termites 381 00:21:26,935 --> 00:21:30,575 Speaker 2: are not going to chew through that. But we're not anywhere. 382 00:21:31,575 --> 00:21:34,175 Speaker 2: We have controls around in sex and so on in 383 00:21:34,295 --> 00:21:38,895 Speaker 2: terms of treatment and infestation, but nothing that's likely to 384 00:21:39,015 --> 00:21:40,575 Speaker 2: nibble away at your entire house. 385 00:21:41,255 --> 00:21:44,935 Speaker 3: Yes there is, ah, yes there is. We have calor 386 00:21:45,015 --> 00:21:49,335 Speaker 3: turmish brunei, which is the drywood termite here, the native one, 387 00:21:49,775 --> 00:21:53,375 Speaker 3: and I don't think it does a lot of damage, 388 00:21:53,415 --> 00:21:57,335 Speaker 3: but it loves still make holes in dry wood, especially 389 00:21:57,775 --> 00:22:02,215 Speaker 3: stored drywood. It comes out of dry timber trees and 390 00:22:02,415 --> 00:22:05,415 Speaker 3: branches that have died already, that sort of stuff. But 391 00:22:05,455 --> 00:22:08,695 Speaker 3: there are also some Australian species that are doing quite 392 00:22:08,695 --> 00:22:12,695 Speaker 3: a bit of doing a lot of trouble. And once again, 393 00:22:12,815 --> 00:22:15,375 Speaker 3: if you do have and we've talked about this before, 394 00:22:15,855 --> 00:22:19,335 Speaker 3: safe works are the ones that have this absolutely brilliant 395 00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:22,815 Speaker 3: material that is long lasting and that does not just 396 00:22:22,975 --> 00:22:26,655 Speaker 3: borer but termites as well. Because they the termites work 397 00:22:26,815 --> 00:22:28,095 Speaker 3: just like bora if you like it. 398 00:22:28,175 --> 00:22:31,695 Speaker 2: So we've we've got Michael Beck with us. So Michael, 399 00:22:31,735 --> 00:22:34,615 Speaker 2: what are you seeing when you see the termites? What 400 00:22:34,615 --> 00:22:37,015 Speaker 2: what are you actually seeing? What's the end result? 401 00:22:39,175 --> 00:22:41,455 Speaker 7: Our sun boord us some forward a couple of years 402 00:22:41,455 --> 00:22:45,895 Speaker 7: ago was um tree and we didn't not was full 403 00:22:45,895 --> 00:22:50,015 Speaker 7: of bloody turm much is why it was dead. I'll 404 00:22:50,015 --> 00:22:54,495 Speaker 7: put it down a back and then yeah, they have 405 00:22:54,535 --> 00:22:59,335 Speaker 7: a tech apricot tree and the plum tree and even 406 00:22:59,335 --> 00:23:02,575 Speaker 7: a firewood stump. I wonder what we can do. 407 00:23:03,055 --> 00:23:06,895 Speaker 3: Do you see that these termites have wings at times 408 00:23:06,895 --> 00:23:07,415 Speaker 3: of the year. 409 00:23:08,335 --> 00:23:12,215 Speaker 7: I hadn't noticed that, but apparently yeah. 410 00:23:11,455 --> 00:23:14,375 Speaker 3: Okay, you looked at it obviously, okay, because that's the 411 00:23:14,415 --> 00:23:17,015 Speaker 3: time when they start moving around, you know what I mean. 412 00:23:17,335 --> 00:23:19,815 Speaker 3: And they and as I said, they go to dead wood. 413 00:23:20,335 --> 00:23:22,175 Speaker 3: All right. The best thing to do in this case 414 00:23:22,255 --> 00:23:24,775 Speaker 3: is just burn the wood and basically anybody that lives 415 00:23:24,775 --> 00:23:27,975 Speaker 3: insight will go as well. But you're gotta be you 416 00:23:28,015 --> 00:23:31,575 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Or if you if you want 417 00:23:31,615 --> 00:23:36,135 Speaker 3: an insecticide that that has to control the termites, go 418 00:23:36,255 --> 00:23:39,895 Speaker 3: to a place called safe works. One word safe works 419 00:23:40,175 --> 00:23:44,935 Speaker 3: with an X at the end. Safe works. Okay, And 420 00:23:45,015 --> 00:23:48,495 Speaker 3: they have fabulous, fabulous material that you can spray on 421 00:23:48,615 --> 00:23:50,815 Speaker 3: wherever you think the termites are doing. 422 00:23:51,015 --> 00:23:54,695 Speaker 7: Their duty, and we'll let the trunk sort of thing. 423 00:23:55,255 --> 00:24:04,895 Speaker 3: Absolutely lovely, Michael, No, they better not the good one boy, 424 00:24:05,255 --> 00:24:05,735 Speaker 3: see you later. 425 00:24:06,535 --> 00:24:10,735 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. Someone on the West Coast same issues 426 00:24:11,455 --> 00:24:14,815 Speaker 2: with flies as the lady up north. Never had them 427 00:24:14,895 --> 00:24:17,175 Speaker 2: like this, big blue ones and house flies as well, 428 00:24:17,215 --> 00:24:20,455 Speaker 2: even though through the winter every cell in the house 429 00:24:20,495 --> 00:24:24,255 Speaker 2: have sprayed inside outside, every damn side. At a loss 430 00:24:24,295 --> 00:24:25,695 Speaker 2: for figuring this out. 431 00:24:25,935 --> 00:24:29,095 Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, and you have to remember we have we 432 00:24:29,215 --> 00:24:34,855 Speaker 3: have clusterflies, especially in the South Island. Clusterflies are yeah, 433 00:24:35,135 --> 00:24:38,735 Speaker 3: about the size of of of house flies, a bit bigger, 434 00:24:38,775 --> 00:24:42,175 Speaker 3: I suppose, but they got wonderful golden hairs on their back. 435 00:24:42,615 --> 00:24:45,295 Speaker 3: And these guys are at the moment going or are 436 00:24:45,415 --> 00:24:49,735 Speaker 3: normally going into houses, into houses where it's nice and dry, quiet, 437 00:24:49,815 --> 00:24:52,455 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And when you try 438 00:24:52,495 --> 00:24:55,495 Speaker 3: to remove them, you may basically squashed them a bit. 439 00:24:55,815 --> 00:24:58,615 Speaker 3: And that is that stinks and it leaves in nasty 440 00:24:58,655 --> 00:25:00,615 Speaker 3: and you can have the guy, your your painting guy 441 00:25:00,695 --> 00:25:02,255 Speaker 3: up to tell them how to get rid of it, 442 00:25:02,295 --> 00:25:04,015 Speaker 3: because it's awful, awful? 443 00:25:04,655 --> 00:25:09,375 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, really quick one from you, Tony. How are 444 00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:09,695 Speaker 2: you sir? 445 00:25:10,735 --> 00:25:14,535 Speaker 4: Good morning? How are you? We've got a row of 446 00:25:14,655 --> 00:25:18,455 Speaker 4: to the sporums that are it's best, simply part meters long, 447 00:25:19,055 --> 00:25:22,855 Speaker 4: and they block out the neighbor about three meters by, 448 00:25:23,775 --> 00:25:27,295 Speaker 4: and quite a number of them are turning woody, and 449 00:25:27,335 --> 00:25:30,175 Speaker 4: the trunks are turning back and you can see starting 450 00:25:30,175 --> 00:25:34,455 Speaker 4: to see through them now and with a sort of 451 00:25:34,615 --> 00:25:35,575 Speaker 4: loss growing on them. 452 00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:46,295 Speaker 3: Yeah, are they still alive though? Are they? Tony? Can 453 00:25:46,335 --> 00:25:46,735 Speaker 3: you hear me? 454 00:25:47,535 --> 00:25:47,775 Speaker 4: Hello? 455 00:25:47,855 --> 00:25:49,655 Speaker 2: Tony? 456 00:25:50,015 --> 00:25:51,335 Speaker 4: Sorry? 457 00:25:51,335 --> 00:25:53,495 Speaker 3: Are you are you still there? Can you? Can you 458 00:25:53,495 --> 00:25:53,815 Speaker 3: hear me? 459 00:25:54,735 --> 00:25:55,655 Speaker 4: Yes? I can? Sorry? 460 00:25:55,735 --> 00:25:57,775 Speaker 3: Okay, good good, that's all right, Yeah, I can hear 461 00:25:57,815 --> 00:26:00,375 Speaker 3: you know, listen, so you say can you can you? 462 00:26:00,375 --> 00:26:03,815 Speaker 3: You say it's black? Is there something? 463 00:26:06,095 --> 00:26:09,815 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I think I've gone black on you know, 464 00:26:09,975 --> 00:26:11,855 Speaker 4: four or five of them and you can speak through 465 00:26:11,855 --> 00:26:15,735 Speaker 4: them now, and they're losing their leaves and. 466 00:26:17,575 --> 00:26:19,575 Speaker 3: There seems to be there seems to be something wrong 467 00:26:19,615 --> 00:26:23,255 Speaker 3: with them. If they're turning black. They might be apherts 468 00:26:23,335 --> 00:26:26,695 Speaker 3: and mealy bugs and all these sort of things that 469 00:26:26,895 --> 00:26:29,855 Speaker 3: suck the juices out of the plant and basically drop 470 00:26:29,975 --> 00:26:33,535 Speaker 3: the honeyjew onto the foliage and onto the plant below, 471 00:26:33,615 --> 00:26:38,535 Speaker 3: onto the branches below, and that that becomes black sooty mold. 472 00:26:38,695 --> 00:26:41,535 Speaker 3: In the end, that in itself means that you need 473 00:26:41,575 --> 00:26:44,895 Speaker 3: to control the little insects that are actually making a 474 00:26:45,015 --> 00:26:49,255 Speaker 3: mess of your plant on the leaves. Okay, So there 475 00:26:49,295 --> 00:26:52,535 Speaker 3: could be all sorts of things that would put them 476 00:26:52,535 --> 00:26:55,015 Speaker 3: back into health. So that is an important way to go, 477 00:26:55,255 --> 00:26:59,455 Speaker 3: all right, Yes, okay, some insect sight will do it. 478 00:26:59,615 --> 00:27:03,695 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I found that Pato's after you know, twenty 479 00:27:03,735 --> 00:27:08,895 Speaker 2: five thirty years, they're pretty much into life kind of yes, okay, 480 00:27:08,895 --> 00:27:10,375 Speaker 2: so that might be a factor as well. 481 00:27:10,655 --> 00:27:12,655 Speaker 3: That could be another one. Yeah, especially if they're three 482 00:27:12,655 --> 00:27:14,735 Speaker 3: meters tall and they've already been going for decades. 483 00:27:14,775 --> 00:27:16,735 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right, Yeah, because I've got a couple 484 00:27:16,735 --> 00:27:20,135 Speaker 2: of those on another place, and yeah, they're just starting 485 00:27:20,135 --> 00:27:22,055 Speaker 2: to look a bit old and scraggly and one day 486 00:27:22,095 --> 00:27:22,935 Speaker 2: they'll be firewood. 487 00:27:23,455 --> 00:27:26,575 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, I know if I would. 488 00:27:26,735 --> 00:27:29,375 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hey mate, thank you very much. 489 00:27:29,895 --> 00:27:30,775 Speaker 3: I have a great week. 490 00:27:30,895 --> 00:27:33,295 Speaker 2: Take care you too, buddy. Thank you, and we'll be 491 00:27:33,335 --> 00:27:35,855 Speaker 2: back with you again next Sunday here at News Talks. 492 00:27:35,895 --> 00:27:38,815 Speaker 2: He'd be have a great week. Enjoy the longer days, 493 00:27:38,895 --> 00:27:40,855 Speaker 2: Let's hope we can get outside and get some things done. 494 00:27:40,935 --> 00:27:42,215 Speaker 2: Take care, have an awesome week. 495 00:28:00,655 --> 00:28:03,615 Speaker 1: For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen 496 00:28:03,735 --> 00:28:06,095 Speaker 1: live to news talks there'd be on Sunday mornings from 497 00:28:06,095 --> 00:28:08,895 Speaker 1: s or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio