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Speaker 1: Barry Sober, Senior political Correspondence with US.

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Speaker 2: Hello Berry, Hello Heather, speaking of weeping, poorl Winston Peters

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Speaker 2: is weeping at the moment. He seems to have been

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Speaker 2: dragged in to the hipgen saga.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, he hates attention like this. He will

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Speaker 1: be really deeply well.

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Speaker 2: One thing about Winston and those of us who know

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Speaker 2: him well, he hates anything about private lives. And he

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Speaker 2: is one that would not be associated with discussing rumors.

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Speaker 1: That Terry stop right there. Who was it who brought

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Speaker 1: Bussy's private life to everybody's attention? It was Winston well well, but.

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Speaker 2: That was in Parliament and it was raised as being

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was more sinister stuff involved in But

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Speaker 2: you've sprung that one on man. I'm sure I could

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Speaker 2: argue through that. But what he doesn't like is he

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Speaker 2: does not like people's private lives other than Bussy maybe,

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Speaker 2: and that's another matter. But I've said because Jade Paul

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Speaker 2: worked for the New Zealand First Party, and she did

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Speaker 2: last year she worked for Casey Costello in an advisory role,

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Speaker 2: and then she moved on adficably from New Zealand First.

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Speaker 2: So there was and certainly we all know that Winston

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Speaker 2: Peters does not get on with Chris Hipkins, says he

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Speaker 2: would never work in a coalition government with them.

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Speaker 1: I think she just got another job, well, a higher

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Speaker 1: paying job.

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Speaker 2: Of course she did, of course she did. But it's

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Speaker 2: interesting that, of course Chris Hipkins said at the opening

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Speaker 2: of his news conference yesterday that he had never posted

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Speaker 2: with his children on any social media post, and indeed

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Speaker 2: he extended that by saying other issues or other magazines,

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Speaker 2: and of course he has we know that. But on

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Speaker 2: social media, on his own posts Facebook post, he was

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Speaker 2: photographed and I've seen the the entry. He was photographed

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Speaker 2: with a little toddler in a pushchair and one on

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Speaker 2: a bicycle and it was just coincidentally a week before

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Speaker 2: the election in twenty twenty, so you know, this is

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Speaker 2: obviously politics. What a good father he is, and just to.

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Speaker 1: Say that he has brought his own private life and

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Speaker 1: he has right quite apart from posting about his children,

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Speaker 1: which he clearly has done in this picture that's doing

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Speaker 1: the rounds, he's also done the women's magazines with the

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Speaker 1: new girlfriend and then the publicity with the ex wife

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Speaker 1: of the wedding and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, of course he has. So the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: was asked about it before he boarded the Air Force

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Speaker 2: plane back to New Zealand from Tonga. But Chris Luxan

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Speaker 2: wasn't about to make a political comment.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm aware of the conversation back at home. I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to comment on that. That's really in Ashie

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Speaker 3: for Chris Sippins. And yeah, I've got on focused on

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Speaker 3: things of.

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Speaker 2: The country and you know when it comes to issues

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Speaker 2: like this, unlike the situation with the bussy claim in parliament,

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Speaker 2: and that was under the cloak of parliamentary privilege. You know,

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Speaker 2: politicians normally don't indulge in any scuttle butt about private lives.

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Speaker 2: This is a kin. This one is a kin to

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Speaker 2: Naomi Long and David Long, as I said yesterday when

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Speaker 2: she went rogue.

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Speaker 1: Now where's the Prime Minister off to If he's leaving Tongue.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's coming back to New Zealand. Well, Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 2: I think is getting married at the end of the

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Speaker 2: week and he will probably be there. But look, there's

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Speaker 2: a big issue in the Pacific at the moment with

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Speaker 2: Pacific countries being channeled being a channel of drugs coming

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Speaker 2: into the Australian and New Zealand market, and you know,

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Speaker 2: big halls have been found. New Zealand helps quite considerably

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Speaker 2: with dog detection units and they've got them in Tongue.

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Speaker 2: And certainly, Chris Hopkins, there was another deal signed with

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Speaker 2: Tonga that we help because we help to help ourselves

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Speaker 2: because the last thing we want is meth amphetamine and

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Speaker 2: what have you coming into the country. Well, in this

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Speaker 2: last word to journalists before for flying back, Hopkins high

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Speaker 2: sorry Hopkins, goodness gracious me. I know this Chris is

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Speaker 2: get very confusing Luxe and highlighted the work being done

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Speaker 2: to combat the flow of drugs through the Pacific.

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Speaker 3: We've got the narco drug families coming in from this

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Speaker 3: from South America. They're coming in because it's an attractive market.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: It's unprecedented some of the stuff that we've been seeing

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Speaker 3: and so we've got one common approach, whether it's Australia,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, Tonga, Fiji, increasingly we want to work together,

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Speaker 3: the five of us. You're seeing a really big rise

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Speaker 3: in HIV, in particular in some of the countries through

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Speaker 3: the Pacific.

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Speaker 2: As well, so they're.

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Speaker 3: Seeing the effects of drugs in their own communities for

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Speaker 3: the first time, and they're very concerned about it and

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Speaker 3: very alarmed about it, and so being able to have

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Speaker 3: a common approach to how we tackle that working together.

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Speaker 2: I think it's really important. You know, the thing about

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Speaker 2: the Pacific here that I've traveled there many many times

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Speaker 2: that drugs were never an issue for Pacific islanders, and

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Speaker 2: suddenly and we know in Fiji it's been a real problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah too, right, Barry, Thanks very much, appreciate a very

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Speaker 1: sober senior political correspondence.

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