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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks at b BAC team.

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Speaker 2: Are you better off than you were two years ago?

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Speaker 2: Are you bathing in the soothing waters of the long

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Speaker 2: promised economic recovery? Is your future more secure? Is your

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Speaker 2: food more affordable? Your insurance your rates? Is your roads smoother?

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Speaker 2: Are your children better educated? Is your water less polluted?

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Speaker 2: Or do you think that some of our most senior

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Speaker 2: leader's time and attention is better used fussing over measures

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Speaker 2: like the order of words on our passports and the

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Speaker 2: transfer of payWave fees from a surcharge to the main bill.

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Speaker 2: The latest folly announced by our foreign minister on a

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Speaker 2: week in which Gaza was stricken by a starvation in

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Speaker 2: the US thanked US for opening an FBI office here

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Speaker 2: by increasing proposed trade tariffs, seeks to enshrine the name

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Speaker 2: New Zealand in law. Ah, Yes, what a pressing issue.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what Between that and the passport reordering, those

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Speaker 2: tens or hundreds of thousands of kids have fled to

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Speaker 2: Australia are going to be clamoring over one another to

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Speaker 2: get back home asap. Here's my view on the name

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Speaker 2: of our country call it what you want. You want

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Speaker 2: to call it alter or, fine, you want to call

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Speaker 2: it New Zealand. Fine. You want to combine the two

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Speaker 2: alter or in New Zealand, fine, go for it. You

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Speaker 2: do you The thing about language is it's fluid, right,

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Speaker 2: It does change over time. There's a good reason we

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Speaker 2: don't all speak in Shakespearean prose, and it has nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with compulsion. To those who say an increasing

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Speaker 2: use of altor is some sort of an affront to

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Speaker 2: our collective values as a nation, well, I would have

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Speaker 2: thought that freedom of expression is a value more worthy

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Speaker 2: of protection and for what it's worth. If New Zealand

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Speaker 2: first was trying to enshrine the name altera or in law,

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Speaker 2: I would have the same response. One of the justifications

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Speaker 2: given for this member's bill is that using altor threatens

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Speaker 2: end z inc our international brand. Let me ask, is

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Speaker 2: there any evidence that our exporters are being compelled en

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Speaker 2: mass to send their products overseas with the name Altor

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Speaker 2: instead of New Zealand. Who, pray tell, is risking that

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Speaker 2: international brand value by forcing this change on the packaging

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Speaker 2: of our top products. I'd suggest it's a pretty unsophisticated

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Speaker 2: exporter who would voluntarily confuse their international customers, or you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe this just isn't really a big deal. I've a

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Speaker 2: real distaste for performative politics that either drum up angst

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Speaker 2: about a problem that doesn't exist, or do something symbolic

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Speaker 2: at the expense of real action. So I never cared,

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Speaker 2: for example, for the trend of counsels and governments declaring

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Speaker 2: climate emergencies so bravely patting themselves on the back while

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Speaker 2: simultaneously doing nothing new in a policy sense. There is

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Speaker 2: a very simple way to see through the specific bill.

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Speaker 2: Just consider the timing. If the name of New Zealand

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Speaker 2: is seriously so threatened that we need to enshrine it

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Speaker 2: in law, why did New Zealand first introduce this bill

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Speaker 2: twelve months ago? Why not three years ago? Why not

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Speaker 2: negotiate it in the coalition agreement when they formed a government.

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Speaker 2: You see, my instinct with this kind of move is

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Speaker 2: always the same. Don't ask what does this achieve or

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Speaker 2: why is this an issue? Instead ask what are they

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Speaker 2: trying to distract us from? Is it the meh jobs report,

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Speaker 2: the lame economic growth figures, the gang numbers ticking over

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Speaker 2: ten thousand for the first time ever. This week, Or

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Speaker 2: could it possibly be the fact that a few hours

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Speaker 2: before the New Zealand Name of State Member's Bill was announced,

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Speaker 2: Australia and the UK achieved comparatively lower trade tariffs with

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Speaker 2: the US, while our government's top trade and diplomatic officials

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Speaker 2: were apparently surprised to learn that our tariff had been increased. Actually,

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Speaker 2: you know, m come to think of it, maybe we

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Speaker 2: should call ourselves alterador. Who knows it might have confused

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump just long enough to keep us at ten percent.

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