1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Barriso Per senior political correspondence with us right now, Hey Barry. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Heather. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so the observer apported to Wellington City Council fair. 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: Enough, Yes, well, if you listen to Tory Fannow that 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: she's got a very cordial relationship with the nothing to 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 2: see him she's he said, and it was quite a 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: strong statement he put out. He said that he had 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: been concerned about the council's ability to manage their long 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: term plan and the department has advisors. They were also 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: estimated that the council's financing approach to water services that 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: would see residents city residents paying up to seven hundred 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: million dollars more in rates over the next ten years. 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Now you know, if that isn't a shot across the 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: bow of the Wellington City Council and what a bad 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: job they're doing. I don't know what is The council 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: Observer's role essentially is to be there on behalf of 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: the mister He or she will sit there, take note 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: of what the council's doing, report on a regular basis, 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: I would imagine back to the Minister Nark and will yes, indeed, 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: and we'll decide whether any further action should be taken. 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: Well far out Tory fun out, as you said, have 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: has just given a news conference. She's taken it all 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: in her stride, saying she's got that great relationship. The 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: Mayor's relaxed about the council's uncertainty over their long term plan. 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: Councils that means their long term plans, you know often 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: and this is kind of no different to that. However, 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: I do understand there has been a lot more media attention, 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: a lot more political theater around this issue, and that 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: the minister has concerns. That's okay, We're going to work 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: collaboratively with him. I certainly hope it doesn't set a 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: precedent for other councils. 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: See, she's worried about everybody else, not about the Willington counsel. 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what if you're a willing to rate 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: payer listening into this, Yes, paying the bill for the 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: observer we Wellington rate payers. 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's well on top of all the other bills, 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: on top of your what's up with the bumsteer you 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: gave us on Friday about Darlene. 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, I'm you know you could do a bumsteer every 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: now and then I'll do a Tory for an hour 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: on this nothing to see. Nothing to see here, I'm 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: entitled to get it wrong, ify now and then. No, 44 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: what happened hither was that? Certainly I was given the. 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: I just want you to know before you carry on 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the standards at newstalok ZB a somewhat higher than Wellington 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: City Council. So that's not going to fly. Okay, we 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: have an observer with you in a minute. 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: I was given Philly strong advice from those who should 50 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: be in the know in the Bee Hive that they 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: would wait for the outcome of the Court of Appeal 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: case because and I've talked to a few leading lawyers 53 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: today about that. You imagine if the Court of Appeal 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: now decides that the Greens got it wrong by sacking 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: Darlene Tanner, what is that lever She's on the outer 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 2: and now in Parliament. But you know it basically legally 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: could present a big problem. 58 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: Is it a flex by Jerry Brownlee? Then, because because 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: there's this massive debate that's going on right now about 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: which actually has the greater power. Is it Parliament or 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: is it the court? 62 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: Well, basically it's Parliament giving the finger to the courts. 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: Well, isn't it? Is it a flex by Jerry? 64 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 2: It could be vice versas, so we'll see that over 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: the next few weeks, I guess. So this is how 66 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: Darlene Tana would have heard her fate being decided by 67 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: parliament Speaker Jerry Brownley this afternoon. 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: This is a serious matter and the first time that 69 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: the provisions inserted into the Electoral Act by way of 70 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: amendment in twenty eighteen have been used to declare a 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: seat vacant. Unsatisfied that the notion, sorry, the motion delivered 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: to me by the parliamentary leaders of the Green Party 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 4: of Alta Rol New Zealand complies with section fifty five 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: C of the Electroact nineteen ninety three. Accordingly, I've given 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: notice that the seat has become vacant. 76 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: See the only other time it's been used, and it 77 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: was a different Act then because it has been amended, 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: as Jerry Brownie said, was Donna Terry Huata. She was 79 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: kicked out of the Act part using this piece of legislation. 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: But it's been further refined and that's what we saw 81 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: being used today. 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, did Andrew Bailey go to a brewery before 83 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: he went to the vineyard and pulled the l shape. 84 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: Well, you know they're not certainly not letting the Bailey 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: issue rest. It was very much to the forum the 86 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: debating chamber today Chris Hipkins lambasted the Prime Minister for 87 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: his handling of the matter, saying essentially that Bailey should 88 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: be demoted. It was Labour's young MP Arena Williams, though, 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: who got to the point with Bailey after he again 90 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: gave a groveling apology. 91 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 5: I was wrong, but I intended the comments in a 92 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 5: light hearted manner. Unfortunately its cause hurt an offense and 93 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: for that reason I've apologize unreservedly to the individual. 94 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: So hen he had any alcohol at the beer garden 95 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: or the winery he visited that day. No is he 96 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: saying that he visited a. 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: Beer garden and a winery. 98 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: But the person fudging the truth about his drinking is 99 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: the worker. 100 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 5: That unrelated You asked me whether I had alcohol and 101 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: I said no. 102 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 4: Yeah. 103 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: So that's a Tory fine hour as well. No problems, 104 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: nothing to see. But look, you have to take Andrew 105 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: Baileiada's word. I mean, you know he may have been 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: at those places if he says he didn't have a drink. 107 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: He did well. 108 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't lie about stuff like this, right, 109 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: because there's one photo of you with a beer glass 110 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: in the hand, and now you're in big trouble, right, 111 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: and then we start getting into he will. 112 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: Be really big trouble. You're absolutely right. If he spottled 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: at a beer garden with a glass in his hand 114 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: or at a winery on. 115 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: That day, he's. 116 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: Surely he's wise enough, wiser than some other politicians not 117 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: to have gone down that track without being familiar with 118 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: what could happen. 119 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Verry, thanks very much, really appreciate it, very so 120 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: for seeing your political correspondence. For more from Hither Duplessy 121 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Allen Drive, listen live to news Talks it'd be from 122 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.