1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,493 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,493 --> 00:00:11,773 Speaker 2: It be. 4 00:00:13,493 --> 00:00:18,973 Speaker 3: She picks me, your takes me up, smaked my cigarettes, 5 00:00:20,493 --> 00:00:24,733 Speaker 3: drink my team, and she takes me home, lives there. 6 00:00:25,093 --> 00:00:30,853 Speaker 3: Summer dream could be My Honey, My Honey. 7 00:00:33,693 --> 00:00:39,333 Speaker 4: Should wicker versus Sean Cunningham. That song is called Honeybee. 8 00:00:39,853 --> 00:00:43,213 Speaker 2: He's just released an album called whatever that is, and 9 00:00:43,293 --> 00:00:47,853 Speaker 2: our music review at Cell Clifford has been listening Morina Marina. 10 00:00:48,093 --> 00:00:51,813 Speaker 5: That's actually one of my favorites entire album, Honeybee, and 11 00:00:51,933 --> 00:00:53,533 Speaker 5: a reason to go back and listen to it a 12 00:00:53,613 --> 00:00:56,813 Speaker 5: few times. That driving percussion beats that you can hear 13 00:00:57,493 --> 00:00:59,613 Speaker 5: is actually Sean slapping his knee. 14 00:01:00,053 --> 00:01:02,493 Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay, yeah, are playing. 15 00:01:03,533 --> 00:01:03,733 Speaker 6: He's not. 16 00:01:04,213 --> 00:01:06,213 Speaker 4: At the same time, He's like record. It's not like 17 00:01:06,413 --> 00:01:12,453 Speaker 4: I kind of like Asion where we have like the 18 00:01:12,493 --> 00:01:14,493 Speaker 4: symbols between your knees and one. 19 00:01:16,453 --> 00:01:18,293 Speaker 5: I mean, if he wants to be a solo artist, 20 00:01:18,693 --> 00:01:21,773 Speaker 5: you know, like I mean, maybe he hasn't visualized. 21 00:01:21,373 --> 00:01:21,973 Speaker 6: That for himself. 22 00:01:23,533 --> 00:01:24,293 Speaker 4: I'm not being crazy. 23 00:01:24,493 --> 00:01:24,773 Speaker 3: It was. 24 00:01:26,533 --> 00:01:28,813 Speaker 6: But also some really great street performers. 25 00:01:28,413 --> 00:01:34,693 Speaker 4: Who is amazing. Sorry anyway, we've immediately the great. 26 00:01:34,533 --> 00:01:36,533 Speaker 5: Thing about recording a solo album is you can do 27 00:01:36,613 --> 00:01:40,933 Speaker 5: all the layers yourself. And so he created this percussion 28 00:01:41,013 --> 00:01:43,093 Speaker 5: drum beat on his knee and it is just knee 29 00:01:43,093 --> 00:01:46,293 Speaker 5: slaps mic nice and close recorded it like that and 30 00:01:46,573 --> 00:01:49,573 Speaker 5: gives us real driving rhythm to underneath. 31 00:01:50,093 --> 00:01:51,493 Speaker 6: Inspired by the Beatles. 32 00:01:52,013 --> 00:01:55,173 Speaker 5: If you watch that massive long doco of the Beatles 33 00:01:55,213 --> 00:01:56,973 Speaker 5: putting their album together before they broke up. 34 00:01:57,133 --> 00:01:59,813 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Paul McCartney's also. 35 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:02,973 Speaker 5: Sometimes done, you know, like a driving percussion beat or 36 00:02:03,013 --> 00:02:05,373 Speaker 5: something that's just playing around with something that's not a 37 00:02:05,493 --> 00:02:08,493 Speaker 5: traditional instrument. Yeah, sort of influenced. 38 00:02:08,013 --> 00:02:09,053 Speaker 6: By by those guys. 39 00:02:09,133 --> 00:02:12,253 Speaker 5: But yeah, Honeybee, great song. Definitely one of my favorites 40 00:02:12,253 --> 00:02:15,253 Speaker 5: on the album. This is a really cool evolution, I 41 00:02:15,293 --> 00:02:17,773 Speaker 5: think for Sean Cunningham. I mean he was huge here. 42 00:02:17,853 --> 00:02:20,053 Speaker 5: If we give a little bit of history to the 43 00:02:20,133 --> 00:02:21,213 Speaker 5: band Atlas. 44 00:02:21,133 --> 00:02:22,773 Speaker 4: Yeah we had, but we played it. 45 00:02:22,893 --> 00:02:23,653 Speaker 6: Did you play Crawl? 46 00:02:23,933 --> 00:02:28,613 Speaker 4: Oh yeah that wasn't just. 47 00:02:28,933 --> 00:02:29,533 Speaker 6: Take you back. 48 00:02:29,573 --> 00:02:33,133 Speaker 5: Were all wearing our bootleg jeans, massive chunky belts with 49 00:02:33,213 --> 00:02:33,573 Speaker 5: the big. 50 00:02:35,613 --> 00:02:37,333 Speaker 6: Yeah like emo rock. 51 00:02:37,613 --> 00:02:40,413 Speaker 5: You know, you're wearing a dark eyeliner and your fringe 52 00:02:40,453 --> 00:02:44,693 Speaker 5: all weird and spiky over your forehead. And just he 53 00:02:44,813 --> 00:02:46,933 Speaker 5: had such a cool voice that really stood out on 54 00:02:46,973 --> 00:02:50,293 Speaker 5: that song, and I think that's what made it stand out. 55 00:02:50,493 --> 00:02:52,973 Speaker 4: It was very successful. That song was incredibly successful in 56 00:02:53,013 --> 00:02:53,533 Speaker 4: New Zealand. 57 00:02:53,973 --> 00:02:54,693 Speaker 6: Yeah, And so he. 58 00:02:54,733 --> 00:02:56,693 Speaker 5: Carried on with with that band for a little while. 59 00:02:56,733 --> 00:02:58,493 Speaker 5: But then what broke them up. I didn't know this 60 00:02:58,693 --> 00:03:01,493 Speaker 5: was that he lost his voice. So he lost his 61 00:03:01,573 --> 00:03:05,253 Speaker 5: ability to sing, and after like going back to Nashville, 62 00:03:05,373 --> 00:03:08,093 Speaker 5: he had to seek like some full on treatment and things. 63 00:03:08,173 --> 00:03:10,493 Speaker 5: He was going through therapy for his voice. Turns out 64 00:03:10,613 --> 00:03:14,133 Speaker 5: major allergies but also past smoker just all caught up 65 00:03:14,173 --> 00:03:17,093 Speaker 5: on him and wow, Yeah, he had to like go 66 00:03:17,173 --> 00:03:19,053 Speaker 5: on some full on allergy stuff instead of sart of 67 00:03:19,053 --> 00:03:22,093 Speaker 5: getting his voice back, he began into another band when 68 00:03:22,133 --> 00:03:24,293 Speaker 5: he was in Nashville and in the States, and they 69 00:03:24,293 --> 00:03:26,373 Speaker 5: were quite successful for a while too over there, but 70 00:03:27,093 --> 00:03:29,653 Speaker 5: he said he got sick of the band politics right, 71 00:03:30,533 --> 00:03:33,933 Speaker 5: I love get totally right, And he'd been in band 72 00:03:34,013 --> 00:03:36,093 Speaker 5: since high school and it was like, what else, what's 73 00:03:36,133 --> 00:03:38,413 Speaker 5: the evolution next? And so I think taking the solo 74 00:03:38,613 --> 00:03:41,933 Speaker 5: thing means that he's probably you know, you're mature, you grow, 75 00:03:42,133 --> 00:03:44,693 Speaker 5: and you also are willing to delve into your emotions 76 00:03:44,733 --> 00:03:47,653 Speaker 5: a little bit further, right, and he definitely does that 77 00:03:48,813 --> 00:03:52,493 Speaker 5: one of the title track, whatever that is. He said 78 00:03:52,493 --> 00:03:56,013 Speaker 5: he wrote that about six months prior to his dad passing, right, 79 00:03:56,173 --> 00:03:58,053 Speaker 5: and so he'd been having these really intense chats with 80 00:03:58,133 --> 00:04:02,253 Speaker 5: his dad about aging and you know, you you still 81 00:04:02,293 --> 00:04:05,173 Speaker 5: feel like you're twenty something inside, but your body's seventy something, 82 00:04:05,453 --> 00:04:07,573 Speaker 5: and you know what does that mean and what does 83 00:04:07,613 --> 00:04:09,093 Speaker 5: it look like and what does it mean for life? 84 00:04:09,813 --> 00:04:12,133 Speaker 5: So quite a special song for him, I think, to 85 00:04:12,333 --> 00:04:15,853 Speaker 5: share and have on his album after his you know, 86 00:04:15,933 --> 00:04:18,493 Speaker 5: dad eventually passing, and that's actually been a really big 87 00:04:18,573 --> 00:04:21,613 Speaker 5: single for him to so again, he has that really 88 00:04:21,693 --> 00:04:26,173 Speaker 5: stellar voice. Sometimes he reminds me of Passenger with that, 89 00:04:27,173 --> 00:04:30,573 Speaker 5: you know, that real rolling rhythm and melody that Passenger 90 00:04:30,653 --> 00:04:34,533 Speaker 5: gets gets his songs, and when it's an acoustic guitar 91 00:04:35,253 --> 00:04:37,693 Speaker 5: and a few sort of drum percussion bits behind him, 92 00:04:37,733 --> 00:04:40,573 Speaker 5: he's got that kind of sort of indie folk sort 93 00:04:40,573 --> 00:04:43,773 Speaker 5: of sound about him. And it's really great because it 94 00:04:43,813 --> 00:04:46,013 Speaker 5: feels like he's more in tune with what he wants 95 00:04:46,053 --> 00:04:49,133 Speaker 5: to do musically. So I think I like that evolution 96 00:04:49,493 --> 00:04:51,973 Speaker 5: in him finding his place, I suppose after being a 97 00:04:52,093 --> 00:04:55,453 Speaker 5: band member for so and so this album definitely is 98 00:04:55,533 --> 00:04:59,853 Speaker 5: more touching on his personal stories, his personal journeys, and 99 00:05:00,013 --> 00:05:01,733 Speaker 5: for me, I feel like you can connect with him 100 00:05:01,773 --> 00:05:05,773 Speaker 5: more as an artist because of that and just finding 101 00:05:05,853 --> 00:05:08,533 Speaker 5: what his and I get that sometimes you try and 102 00:05:08,613 --> 00:05:10,213 Speaker 5: be all the different things, right, you do rock and 103 00:05:10,293 --> 00:05:12,453 Speaker 5: you do pop, but actually you can bring all of 104 00:05:12,533 --> 00:05:16,853 Speaker 5: those things together and make a really cohesive musically. 105 00:05:17,013 --> 00:05:17,733 Speaker 6: There's some really. 106 00:05:17,613 --> 00:05:21,013 Speaker 5: Beautiful moments in this and sometimes it's because it's quite 107 00:05:21,093 --> 00:05:24,773 Speaker 5: simplistic and more of that acoustic and in other times 108 00:05:24,853 --> 00:05:29,133 Speaker 5: it's like lots of layers with the electronics stuff he's 109 00:05:29,133 --> 00:05:33,693 Speaker 5: put in as well, so more encompassing, full anthem type songs, 110 00:05:33,693 --> 00:05:35,853 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And again, now that I've 111 00:05:35,853 --> 00:05:37,733 Speaker 5: seen Passenger at live a couple of times, it's kind 112 00:05:37,773 --> 00:05:41,093 Speaker 5: of something that he sort of does too, definitely reflective 113 00:05:41,213 --> 00:05:43,933 Speaker 5: on a lot of his Like he one of his 114 00:05:44,053 --> 00:05:48,413 Speaker 5: songs called Lonesome No More. That's a really good trick too, 115 00:05:48,493 --> 00:05:51,133 Speaker 5: and that's sort of him commenting about his sobriety journey. 116 00:05:52,093 --> 00:05:54,293 Speaker 5: So again, real personal stories, you know, you can do 117 00:05:54,413 --> 00:05:57,813 Speaker 5: that when it's just about you. But I really like 118 00:05:57,893 --> 00:05:59,573 Speaker 5: what he's done here is he's really taken on a 119 00:05:59,613 --> 00:06:01,293 Speaker 5: bit of the album goes on a bit of a journey, 120 00:06:01,373 --> 00:06:03,573 Speaker 5: so you know, from start to finish, just quite a 121 00:06:03,613 --> 00:06:05,173 Speaker 5: good way to listen to it. A few times, I 122 00:06:05,253 --> 00:06:09,173 Speaker 5: think beautiful music to perhaps sometimes just having the background 123 00:06:09,173 --> 00:06:12,813 Speaker 5: while you're doing stuff. Other times real tune up tunes. 124 00:06:13,493 --> 00:06:15,013 Speaker 5: You can kind of come in and out of this album, 125 00:06:15,053 --> 00:06:17,733 Speaker 5: which I really I think is is really great, real 126 00:06:18,093 --> 00:06:18,853 Speaker 5: beautiful listen. 127 00:06:18,893 --> 00:06:20,853 Speaker 6: And he is coming here to tour. I believe in 128 00:06:20,933 --> 00:06:23,813 Speaker 6: summer some stage, very good as a solo artist. 129 00:06:23,853 --> 00:06:24,453 Speaker 4: So what did you give it? 130 00:06:24,853 --> 00:06:27,493 Speaker 6: Get your hands sleps ready, it's a teen for me? 131 00:06:28,573 --> 00:06:29,173 Speaker 5: What that is? 132 00:06:29,253 --> 00:06:33,253 Speaker 4: I knew you'd be concerned. I was wrong. It wasn't you. 133 00:06:36,813 --> 00:06:40,533 Speaker 4: It was Dick Van Dyke and Mary Poppins, Remember Poppins. 134 00:06:41,133 --> 00:06:44,013 Speaker 6: You blur those two movies together, like am I? 135 00:06:44,213 --> 00:06:47,373 Speaker 4: Yeah, surely I'm not the only one who does our fault. 136 00:06:47,413 --> 00:06:50,533 Speaker 6: They cast the same cast for exactly exactly. 137 00:06:50,733 --> 00:06:52,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was Dick Van Dyke and Mary Poppins. 138 00:06:52,813 --> 00:06:57,413 Speaker 2: Sorry who was doing which is totally unrelated to Seawann Cunningham. 139 00:06:57,493 --> 00:06:58,333 Speaker 4: Just to be totally clear. 140 00:06:59,133 --> 00:07:01,373 Speaker 6: Also, we could picture it to him right, Yeah. 141 00:07:01,333 --> 00:07:05,413 Speaker 4: Maybe he's a talented guy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Thanks to. 142 00:07:06,933 --> 00:07:09,293 Speaker 2: Our music reviewer, there eight out of ten for whatever 143 00:07:09,373 --> 00:07:10,933 Speaker 2: that is from Sean Cunning and we have a bit 144 00:07:10,933 --> 00:07:12,133 Speaker 2: more of a listen in a few minutes 145 00:07:12,893 --> 00:07:16,013 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live 146 00:07:16,093 --> 00:07:18,893 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 147 00:07:19,013 --> 00:07:20,853 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio