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Speaker 1: Sport with tab Multis, Fast, Daz and more codes SORR

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Speaker 1: eighteen Bit Responsible Pine sports talk hosters with Me, Hey, Pioney.

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Speaker 2: Heather, Oh, mate, mate, Oh.

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Speaker 1: I went to bed at half time. I thought, I

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Speaker 1: can't handle this anymore.

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Speaker 2: So you thought we won ten to seven?

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Speaker 1: No, I could see it coming. I could see no. Actually,

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Speaker 1: can I can I tell you the truth? It was

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Speaker 1: delayed because of the Warriors, and so I was getting

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Speaker 1: the phone updates and I already knew. I already knew

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Speaker 1: what was happening. And so I went to bed at halftime.

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Speaker 1: So it was Yeah, so it wasn't really my half.

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Speaker 1: It was my halftime, but it wasn't everybody else's halftime.

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Speaker 1: But no, I couldn't watch it finished. I thought, I

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Speaker 1: can't watch this, this is terrible. What happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, I meank what happened. Indeed, we had a lot

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Speaker 2: of calls on it yesterday on the show, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure we really came to any conclusion, any general conclusion.

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Speaker 2: There were so many places to look right set, peace,

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Speaker 2: the aerial ball, lack of attack, guys giving up seemingly

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Speaker 2: near the end. There was so much to unpack, and

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Speaker 2: in many ways that's the difficulty here. If it was

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Speaker 2: one thing, if it was just the line out or

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Speaker 2: just the scrum, or just the fact that they can't

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Speaker 2: catch the ball when it's kicked up in the air

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Speaker 2: to them, then they can focus in on that and

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Speaker 2: zoom it on that and fix it. But they've got

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Speaker 2: twelve days now to fix a bunch of stuff, including

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Speaker 2: their own confidence ahead of the Bledislow Cup game against

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Speaker 2: the Wallabes at Eden Park on Saturday week So there's

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Speaker 2: a bit to do, a bit to do for Razor

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Speaker 2: and his team.

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Speaker 1: Did you read Gregor Paul's piece?

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Speaker 2: I did, yes, and as always I love reading Gregor.

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Speaker 2: He's very incisive. I think he drew a bit of

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Speaker 2: a long bow, you know, comparing rugby to people leaving

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Speaker 2: and going living in Australia. But that's a side issue.

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Speaker 2: I think he's right about the consistency.

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Speaker 1: So he's a Rugby is just one more part of

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Speaker 1: New Zealand in decline, one more finger roding while everyone

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Speaker 1: deludes themselves otherwise, tell me he's wrong.

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Speaker 2: No, he is wrong. You can't mean, you can't. Look.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to make a case to you that he's right,

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Speaker 1: because what's happened is you've got You've got all of

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Speaker 1: these other squads allowing their players to play overseas and

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Speaker 1: be selected from overseas. They're playing in fantastic competitions. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: here we are playing stink super rugby against the Aussies

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Speaker 1: who suck and the Argies who are like okay most

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Speaker 1: of the time, on't even part of it anymore. So

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Speaker 1: it's just us in the stinky Aussies. It doesn't decline.

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Speaker 2: But does that mean so does that mean that that

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Speaker 2: rugby is a part of our society that is in

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Speaker 2: decline along with things like, you know, people leaving our shores,

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Speaker 2: fewer jobs, all these.

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Speaker 1: Sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: But those are real life things. Those are real life things.

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Speaker 1: Just a sport.

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Speaker 2: It ain't real life, Heather, It.

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Speaker 1: Ain't real real life. It's happening. There's a real ball

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Speaker 1: and real fifteen people touching that ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're not out of a cure and cancer,

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Speaker 2: are we. You know, it's the game of rugby.

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Speaker 1: Stop it, stop it. You're accepting it. The argument I

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Speaker 1: think he's trying to make is that we can see

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Speaker 1: it falling apart, but we're pretending it isn't rightly what

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Speaker 1: I should do is go, yeah, Rugby, the way that

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Speaker 1: we're doing it in this country is starting to become

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Speaker 1: a bit shite and maybe we need to make some changes.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think anybody's pretending it's not happening. After

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Speaker 2: Saturday night. The out pouring on social media that I've

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Speaker 2: seen certainly not people turning a blind eye or just

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Speaker 2: accepting that it's okay. I think we have every right

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Speaker 2: to demand excellence from our all blacks, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's what people are doing. Yeah, look, you know, we

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Speaker 2: can go back and forth on Gregor's piece. I think

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Speaker 2: the most important thing is that they put it right

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Speaker 2: before this blitter slow cup goes on.

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Speaker 1: He're saying I suspect what he Maybe I'm reading what

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Speaker 1: I want to read into it, but it is a

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Speaker 1: bigger problem than just the all blacks, right. If you

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Speaker 1: serve them up a selection of players who are not

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Speaker 1: playing in a great competition, then you are not going

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Speaker 1: to get great players.

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Speaker 2: Sure, no, that is a valid point. If that is

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Speaker 2: the point that he's making. I still think Super Rugby

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Speaker 2: has a lot going for it, but South Africa have

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Speaker 2: a lot of players who don't play in South Africa.

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Speaker 2: They play in Japan. In fact, I think I saw

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Speaker 2: twenty eight of the forty three points on Saturday night

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Speaker 2: was scored by Japanese bas players. So there's a little

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Speaker 2: thing for you. Look, it's probably going to open up

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Speaker 2: that argument again Hither, isn't it. But then again you

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Speaker 2: think to yourself, Okay, at the moment, who's oversus? Who

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Speaker 2: would have back? I know it's a different argument, but yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Richie Monger, Aarons.

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Speaker 2: Aaron parents Aarons, he's like thirty seven years old.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell me he's better that. He's not better than that.

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Speaker 1: The others who are trying to find in that position.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think camroy Gard coming back will be a big,

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Speaker 2: big post.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, there we go. Gregor Paul started something. Piney appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Jason pine sports talk host. By the way,

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Speaker 1: he had Piney was doing talkback after the game. He

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Speaker 1: had a call from val This is what she said.

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Speaker 3: The coaching to me. I say, bring on, Nolan tra

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Speaker 3: give give us some time with them before the breeder

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Speaker 3: slow cap. For god's sake, someone's got to do something

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Speaker 3: with class.

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Speaker 1: Right seeing Nolane and she'll sort them out.

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