1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play a store news 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Dogs'd be. 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Good Morning New Zealand. It is six a half to five. 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Great to have your company this Thursday morning. Coming up 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 2: on the show our lead interview before six beneficiaries have 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: been over or underpaid in quite large numbers. Why international 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: student numbers are up, but why aren't we caning it 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: like the osigs are at pre COVID levels. A major 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: company's CEO has been shot in Manhattan and New York City. 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: It appears to be a targeted attack. Our US correspondent explains, 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: Plus Andrew Hoggard's on the show Chickens Methane Forestry will 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: talk about all of that and why British consumers are 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: pouring milk down the sink. 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: The agenda. 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: It is Thursday, the fifth of December. The chaos continues 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: in South Korea. Martial law lasted just a few hours. 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: But will the president have another crack at it? What 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: position party says? 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: Yes, they will try it again by addressing their shortcomings 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: after they have failed once. When that time comes, We 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: the citizens, along with the Democratic Party of Korea and 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: our lawmakers will step forward and fight to ensure this victory. 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: A weird little period. The impeachment proceedings will start this weekend, 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: and the country's largest union called for a strike until 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: the president resigns. Cuba, we've spoken about this before. Their 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: electrical grid it's collapsed again. Nobody can go to work 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: or school for several days in Cuba at the moment. 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: And the problem, well, it's the same as it was 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: last time. They don't maintain their power plants properly. There's 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: more demand for air conditioning, and there's US sanctions limiting 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: fuel supply. The French prime minister is facing a vote 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: of no confidence. It's about to be by by Bayer. 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: The French Prime minister set to last about as long 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: as a croissant at breakfast, which is not very long 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: at all. 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: Based on what the parties that depose these motions are saying, yeah, mathematically, 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: it seems like it's going to go through. For me, 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: the most important issue is not that much that the 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: government will be turned down, because that's something that could 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 4: have happened anyways. When you have such a diviated assembly 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: but is that we are not going to have a 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: budget voided by the end of the year. 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: So the National Assembly opened just over an hour ago 46 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: with a result expected by a round eight o'clock this morning, 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: So Michael bring you that. Later on a news talk 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: said bad Spotify wrapped is out Taylor Swifts taking it out. 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: She's been named the most played artist globally and in 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: New Zealand for the second year in a row. Music 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: sound a little bit boring. 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: I suppose she has some more upbeat ones, doesn't she. 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: She pulled in twenty six point six billion streams, followed 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: by the weekend Bad Bunny Drake and Billie Eilish out 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: most streamed local Artists six sixty, followed by lab on. 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Ryan 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: Bridge and It's fist City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and 59 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: a playing store news talk z be. 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: I hope you're having a one full morning so far. 61 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: Well that something just started, really, hasn't it, And it's 62 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: nine minutes after five. I am heading off next week. 63 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to be filling in for Heather on drives, 64 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: so this will be my second to last show with 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: you all, and I must say it's been an absolute 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: privilege to be with you for the last five months 67 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: and I look forward to rejoining you next year. Sometime. 68 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: I'll have more on that after the end of the 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: show tomorrow. This morning, there is a review being announced 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: of the Commerce Act. This is from Andrew Bailey. He's 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: had another glass of wine and he's ready to get 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: into some work. So he is the Commerce Minister and 73 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: he's at the Consumer Fares Minister. The Commerce Commission needs 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: more teeth. The problem is what they call creeping acquisitions. Now, 75 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: what is a creeping acquisition? I hear you ask companies 76 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: making small acquisitions which don't affect the makeup of a 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: whole market they operate in on their own. Now here's 78 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: an example for you. Medical centers. You know, you get that, 79 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: and veterinary clinics, some physiotherapy, dentistry businesses, lots of little ones, 80 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: and then you'll get a big company coming in buying 81 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: them all up and so on. It's so micro that 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: it doesn't You wouldn't have your ComCom coming in and 83 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: saying nay to anything like that because it's too minor. 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: But cumulatively, does it have an impact and if it does, 85 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: then does the ComCom need some more powers? That is 86 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: basically what Andrew Bailey is looking at. What they've announced 87 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: they're going to look at this morning, that cumulative effect. 88 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: Ten minutes after five, Bryan Bridge. So we're going to 89 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: talk to Andrew Hoggart next SS, the Associate Agriculture Minister. 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: There was so much to talk to him about. He's 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: also buying security minister, so of course we'll get an 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: update on the chicken situation in Otago, also the methane situation, 93 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: the forestry situation and and the pouring of the milk 94 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: down the sink in the UK. Lots to talk to 95 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: him about next. I found my mind seeing is saying. 96 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on the early 97 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds at a 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: flying Store News Talk. 99 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: Sidby, We've got some core logic numbers out on housing 100 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: will get too shortly as well. Trump's pick for Secretary 101 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: of Defense. This is Pete his guest. He is embroiled 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: in controversy. It's to do with drinking, it's to do 103 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: with his treatment of women. So will there be another 104 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: of Trump's picks four cabinet fall by the wayside. We'll 105 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: talk to our US correspondent about that. Just before I 106 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: didn't und quarter to six this morning, Bryan Bridge. So 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: our methane emissions targets may be lowered. A government appointed 108 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: scientific panel has found by reducing our twenty to fifty 109 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: methane emissions targets, we could still meet the goal of 110 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: not seeing additional warming above twenty seventeen levels. The Climate 111 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: Change Commission has warned that there is no evidence to 112 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: support changing the existing target of up to forty seven percent. 113 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: The government is now going over the panel's advice to 114 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: decide on a new target from next year. Andrew Hoggart 115 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: is the Associate Minister for Agriculture. He's with me this morning. Andrew, 116 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Andrew, Yeah, good morning right, good 117 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: to have you on the show. Minister. Tell me are 118 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: you are you basically saying you will love the targets. 119 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 5: No, this is just the scientific advice that we've received 120 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 5: and decisions will be made next year. We know from 121 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 5: my previous role my thoughts credy and where the target 122 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: should be. So yeah, this is just scientific advice to 123 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 5: inform the policy decision that government will be making. 124 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: Do you concede that it's not as good for the 125 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: planet but it's better for farmers? 126 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 5: Well no, I mean what the science is saying here 127 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 5: is that no additional warming mean from no additional warming, Basically, 128 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 5: the farming sector needs to reduce on what the world's 129 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 5: currently doing by fifteen percent, or if everyone else in 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 5: the world steps up, then we have to move up 131 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 5: to twenty four percent. But that's the sort of information 132 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 5: it's come back from this report. And you know, I 133 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 5: would think that our farmer is doing our part, not 134 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 5: adding to additional warming is what they want to be doing. 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 5: You know, parents accords all about limiting additional warming for 136 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: one point five, we're saying for New Zealand agriculture, what's 137 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 5: the number for zero? 138 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? This is the difference though, isn't it. It's the 139 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: expectation that the sort of parameters that have been set 140 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: for this because it's about not exceeding twenty seventeen levels 141 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: versus the current targets, which are more about cooling the planet. 142 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, well, no, the current targets are about 143 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 5: stopping warming to one and a half an extra one 144 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 5: and a half degrees, And so we're saying We're not 145 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: going to add to that at all. Is what this? 146 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: You know, this question is asked, what is the number 147 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 5: farmers need to achieve to say that, hey, we haven't 148 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: added to the problem. 149 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: You know, the farm land use changes that you've announced, 150 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: do you basically are you basically saying to farmers you 151 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: can do what you want with your land, but don't 152 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: expect carbon credits if it's productive farming land. 153 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 5: That's pretty much in a nutshell. 154 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: Yes, two hundred thousand hectares of productive sheep and beef 155 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: we've converted in the past five years. Do you have 156 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: an idea of what this change might mean for that 157 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: number going forward? 158 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 5: Well, obviously it'll reduce it. Then in terms of the 159 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 5: exact number, No, I wouldn't have that off the top 160 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 5: of my head, but it would sort of. You know, 161 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 5: what we're seeing has been that the main driver for 162 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: a forestation has been the carbon price, and that's what's 163 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 5: driven a lot of their sales and changes of blanket 164 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 5: planting of farmland into forestry. And that's what's occurred. And 165 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 5: for a number of years now we've been hearing from 166 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 5: those real communities massive concern about going to the land 167 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 5: effectively into carbon forestry where there's no jobs, it's just 168 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 5: locked up and becomes a bit of a fire risk 169 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: and real concern to their community. 170 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: Minister, just putting your biosecurity head on for a second. 171 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: What's the latest do you have testing results from that 172 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: second Dunedin farm that was being. 173 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 5: Looked at no When I wake up, I checked my 174 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 5: phone and there was nothing came through overnight, So it 175 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 5: should be at some point we'll get the update on 176 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 5: all those other farms, which will give us a real 177 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 5: indication as to what the spread is and how quickly 178 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 5: we can tidy this. 179 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: Up if it's confirmed, like if it's if it's there, 180 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: is that really bad? 181 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 5: It'll depend on whether or not the So this is 182 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 5: the Seeking farm south of Dnean, The question in my 183 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: mind will be do we have a trace between those 184 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 5: two properties? Is there a link between them now? If 185 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 5: we can't find a link between them, and also there 186 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 5: is some difference in the sequencing in terms of the 187 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 5: DNA of the disease. That then adds another variable to 188 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 5: the resk of is there singing in the natural environment 189 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 5: that's causing this? 190 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and good to know. Andrew Haggard, thank you 191 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: very much. For your time this morning, really appreciate it. 192 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: The Associate Minister for Agriculture there on a range of 193 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: issues just gone eighteen minutes after five. I will tell 194 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: you why this particular cattle feed in the UK is 195 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: causing some consternation with consumers. They literally pouring milk down 196 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: the sink and the toilet and filming themselves doing it. 197 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: I don't know why you pour it down the toilet, 198 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 2: just like you can make the same point pouring it 199 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: down the sink and anyway. I'll tell you more about 200 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: that later on in the show. Coming up next, we 201 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: are talking our student numbers. International student numbers. They are 202 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: a big number for US, our fourth largest export earner. 203 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: But why aren't we caning it like the Aussies? 204 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 205 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New 206 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing store News Talks. 207 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: It'd be twenty one after five. Universities will be celebrating 208 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: the international student numbers are up seventy three thousand enrollments 209 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: between January and August this year. That's up twenty four 210 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: percent compared to the same period last year. The numbers 211 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: are up six percent on twenty twenty three totals already 212 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: still not back to pre COVID levels, though we are 213 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: seven percent shy of that. Jeff bilbra Is with Education 214 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: New Zealand. This is a Crown entity set up to 215 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: promote us basically as a study destination to the world. Jeff, 216 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, How are you today? 217 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 6: Thanks leaving me on the show. 218 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: Great to have you here. This is obviously a big 219 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: export earner for us. Why yes, the numbers are good, 220 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: but why aren't we back to you or doing what 221 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: the old things are doing and beating their pre COVID levels. 222 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 6: Oh well, the first thing to note is that in 223 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 6: just two terms that we've had more enrollments than we 224 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 6: had in all of last year. So that's a good 225 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 6: thing to celebrate. Regarding the Australians, what happened and to 226 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 6: the Canadians to some extent, what happened during the pandemic 227 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 6: is both countries decided to use international students as are 228 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 6: economic consentive to help their economy go to economies, and 229 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 6: they both developed what were quite welcoming policies for international students. 230 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 6: Sadly that had not good effects in both countries. And 231 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 6: what we're now seen is both Canada and Australia are 232 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 6: bringing in caps to international students. In Canada, the student 233 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 6: experience was particularly poor and there were reports of students 234 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 6: having to use food beats and some sleeping rough and 235 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 6: in Australia they lost public support for international education. Now 236 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 6: we haven't had either of those experiences in New Zealand. 237 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 6: Our research suggests that over eighty percent of international students 238 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 6: rate their experience very highly, and by far the bulk 239 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: majority of New Zealand is more than seventy percent. Still 240 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 6: have very positive experiences and positive perceptions of New Zealand. 241 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 6: So both Australia and Canada had very welcoming policies. They 242 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 6: got lots of students and it's caused some problems shutting down. 243 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: But they did get the cash too, didn't they, you know? 244 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: And that's the outside to it. I suppose will those 245 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: cats that you're talking about that Australia is going to 246 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: put in, will they benefit us? 247 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 6: Absolutely? So what's happened now is that the Australian and 248 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 6: the Canadian policies look a lot more like us. So 249 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 6: if you think of it as a running race, they 250 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 6: might have had a bit of a head start before, 251 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 6: but now they're back at the starting line alongside us, 252 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 6: and so we're starting to see a lot of interest. 253 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 6: The agent networks that we have offshore teams work with 254 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 6: them daily. They are telling us that there's a lot 255 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 6: of interest in New Zealand. We'll do a brand health 256 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 6: monitor and we've just got some initial results. I can't 257 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 6: give you the numbers, but I can tell you that 258 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 6: it's positive and it looks like some of the awareness 259 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 6: that we're getting in some of the interests is at 260 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 6: the expense of the Australian So definitely it's a good 261 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 6: period for New Zealand. But I think we need to 262 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 6: recognize that the sort of the steady growth that we've 263 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 6: had over the past three years since the border has 264 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 6: reopened has been to the benefit of both the sector 265 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 6: and the students, and the sector has been able to 266 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 6: build their capacity back steadily and the students experience has 267 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 6: continued to be good through that period. 268 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: Without a sort of rip, shit and bust thing like 269 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: Australia and Canada have done. Jeff, my words, not yours, Jeff. Jeff, 270 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: thank you very much for being on. 271 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 6: The very much that right. 272 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: Jeff Pilbre who is with Education New Zealand. It is 273 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: twenty four after five News Talks HEB the early. 274 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by NEWSTALKSB. 275 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: You're on News Talks HEB twenty six after five. Should 276 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: the government buy something just because it's made here in 277 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: New Zealand, even if it costs us more. That's basically 278 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: the question you've got to ask yourself after the latest 279 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: wool snub. This time it was kying of order saying 280 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: no in bold text, by the way to key, we 281 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: made woolen carpet for state houses and yes to synthetic 282 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: imported stuff. Why it's cheaper. We've been here before. You'll 283 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: remember the school classroom's same story. And it happens despite 284 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: a coalition agreement deal with New Zealand first ensuring where practical, 285 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: and that might be the caveat that KAO is using 286 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: here to get out of wool, that the local product 287 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: be used in government procurement and in government buildings. But Ko, 288 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: like a good kid in class, has been listening to 289 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: the government's main lecture, which has cut costs. Wool is 290 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: thirty percent more expensive on average, and carpets for state 291 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: houses than the nylon equivalent, But the industry says KO 292 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: and the deal could revitalize the flailing product and its fortunes. 293 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: So we have a clash of competing priorities cost versus localism. 294 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: The answer to the question posed at the start of 295 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: this is another question, which is never It's kind of 296 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: annoying when people do that, But here we are what 297 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: is the net benefit to New Zealand's economy as a 298 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: whole of government buying wool carpet, including the jobs that 299 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: you would create, including the spending that you would encourage, 300 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: and the increased cost of wool on the taxpayer. That 301 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: surely is your number. That is the number that you 302 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: would base a decision on whether to use a New 303 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: Zealand made product over a synthetic, imported equivalent. Frame Bridge 304 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: News Talk SEATB Lots more to come. We're going to 305 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: go to our US correspondence. Just before a quarter to 306 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: six this morning. There's a health boss, the guy who 307 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: runs one of America's largest health insurance companies, has been 308 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: shot dead in Manhattan, and they think it was a 309 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: targeted attack. So we'll find out more about that. Also, 310 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: we're going to talk beneficiaries and why they aren't being 311 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: paid the right amounts. Just before six in our lead 312 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: twenty nine after five Newstalk set b skin kind of lay, 313 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: but the ladies wasn't mind. Oh my good lord, some 314 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: change some I'm gonna pull me up a double shot 315 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: of whiskey. They on me a tack. 316 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 7: Damn goody history. 317 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: There's a part of downtown near Fishtry. Everybody had the 318 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: barket doumba, tell me up a duble shot of liskey. 319 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 8: They're on me. 320 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 2: Attacked down day that the body double man you. Everybody had, 321 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: everybody had by. 322 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 7: You, everybody at. 323 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: By the first word on the News of the Day 324 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's 325 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: Furniture Bits and a playing store. US talks in me. 326 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: Good morning, Moselle, welcome to your day. It is the 327 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: fifth of December. Great to have your company. We're going 328 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: to a US correspondent about quarter six this morning, Cape 329 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: Fisher is standing by Racardo Me and India's march on 330 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: why beneficiaries aren't being paid what they should, some of 331 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: them resulting in debts, which is never a good thing. 332 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: Also this morning, a really interesting story from the UK. 333 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: Social media users are pouring out milk into their sincson 334 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: into their toilets, and filming themselves doing this. And it's 335 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: all over an additive, a cattle feed additive that reduces 336 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: methane emissions from cows. And this is something that's going 337 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: to happen more and more as countries like ours try 338 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: and reduce our impact on the climate. Blah blah blah. 339 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: Bovia is what it's called, and the consumers are going 340 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: there's a trial going on. It's made its way into 341 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: milk which is being sold in supermarkets over in the UK, Tescos, 342 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: et cetera. And so these consumers are seeing social media 343 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: posts about it, claiming that it's harmful to human health 344 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: and harmful to the animals, et cetera. And it's, by 345 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 2: the way, a product that has not been a pre 346 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: moved in New Zealand yet, so you don't have to 347 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: worry about it. But over there they are worried about it, 348 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: and people are pouring it into the sink and pouring 349 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: it into the toilet to make it kind of a 350 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: stand against it. It is interesting, isn't it, Because we're 351 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: going to use more and more of these technologies to 352 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: alter the behavior the natural behaviors of cows our dairy 353 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: herd to try and reduce their emissions. Basically try and 354 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: hold in a fart or a burp, which is, as 355 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: you and I know, never a good thing, is it, 356 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: And it doesn't feel like a healthy thing to do, 357 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: but apparently better for the planet. So anyway, there's a 358 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: bit of a tension going on. They're twenty two away 359 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: from six bird flu. We're waiting on test results in 360 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: that second farm in Otago. Andrew Hoggard, who is the 361 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: Associate Agricultural Minister, was on this show twenty minutes ago. 362 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: He said he hasn't heard anything overnight yet but Colm 363 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: proct isn't a needed for us this morning column. There 364 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: are answers expected on this today. Yeah, that's correct to Ryan. 365 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 9: It's just exactly whether or not the second Otago farm 366 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 9: has bird flu among its chickens. Look, MPIs continuing to 367 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 9: call those eighty thousand birds at a Mainland poultry managed 368 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 9: monarchy farm which confirmed the disease on Sunday, and then 369 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 9: yesterday it halted all movements of materials from another small 370 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 9: farm near Dunedin after a number of chicken deaths there. 371 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 9: Mpiss that's standard biosecurity process for when unusual deaths are reported. 372 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 9: They say testings underway and it's not confirmed to be 373 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 9: part of the bird flu outbreak at this point. Mainland 374 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 9: Poultry is also testing all at South Island farms, with 375 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 9: results due next week. 376 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather today? Got a strong win? 377 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: Watched today? 378 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 9: Fine, but sol west gales gusts of one hundred k's 379 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 9: today for Dunedin easing this evening the high twenty two. 380 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, and clear than christ Church. Clear 381 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: it was guilty for the death of young Fai Bao. 382 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 10: It certainly was. Ryan Chinese national Tindrin Chow has been 383 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 10: found guilty of murdering the christ Church real estate agent 384 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 10: and mother of one back in July of twenty twenty three. 385 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 10: She was last seen anti property in Hornby, where she 386 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 10: was meeting with Chow for a private property viewing. It 387 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 10: was there that the Crown said he attacked her. He 388 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 10: then dragged her to the boot of his car, drove 389 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 10: to the outskirts of christ Church and killed her. Her 390 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 10: body was found in a shallow grave on some private farmland, 391 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 10: but not until more than a year later Crown evidence 392 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 10: sowed the two phones were together on the day Bell disappeared, 393 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 10: including at that grave site. Their blood was also detected 394 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 10: at the Hornby property Chow's car. There was also DNA 395 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 10: found on her destroyed phone. Chow, though claimed all of 396 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 10: the evidence or much of the evidence was fake and 397 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 10: was not enough to persuade the jury. He will be 398 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 10: sentenced to a for murder on March seven. 399 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: Sounded like a really complicated trial. How's the weather today, 400 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: c there. 401 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 10: A nice day for christ Church? Fine, westerly is turning 402 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 10: easterly then dying out a maximum of twenty seven. 403 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: Thank you Maxis and Wellington. 404 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 7: Max. 405 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna be a bit of a grinch on the 406 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: staff Christmas parties for government agencies. 407 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it certainly seems like going to the days of 408 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 7: extravagant work Christmas parties unsurprising consider during the government's instruction 409 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 7: to the public sector the new Ministry for Regulation, for instance, 410 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 7: they're asking staff to bring a plate of food themselves, 411 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 7: drinks provided by senior leadership. The Health Ministry doing an 412 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 7: in house function worth less than ten dollars per person, 413 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 7: including non alcoholic drinks and karaoke, which I'm not sure 414 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 7: is the right combination for late afternoon Euphoria Stafford to 415 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 7: a FTI spending seven dollars themselves just to attend their 416 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 7: own offsite party where they pay for their own drinks. 417 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 7: Crown Law doing something similar, And that's the sense everywhere 418 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 7: have scaled about Christmas. Essentially, even at n z B Wellington, 419 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 7: we're going in house a couple of free drinks here, 420 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 7: food three to six in the afternoon in the office. 421 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 7: Basically we're sorting ourselves out this Christmas. 422 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the same thing here. I think I'm not even 423 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: going to go to it anymore. I can't here. 424 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 7: Our big stars tend to avoid such things, don't it. 425 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not Mike. I know, I know he won't 426 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: be going anywhere near a Christmas Paddy. I would happily go, 427 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: but I've got work and so I can't. Seven dollars 428 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: you said, one agency seven dollars for food and where 429 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: are they going? Macas well? 430 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 7: Exactly? Well, I think it's just for venue higher to 431 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 7: cover the venue higher, and then when they're there they 432 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 7: pay for their own drinks and food. 433 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: How's your were there? 434 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 5: Uh? 435 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 7: Cloudy with a bit of rizzulve clearing to find this 436 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 7: afternoon Strong Norwesteries twenty two to the High in the 437 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 7: central city. 438 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 8: All right, Neva's and not Neva Christmas Party l starts 439 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 8: next week, isn't it next bright? 440 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: No, I'm not going. 441 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 8: But it's two pm or two thirty pm until four. Yes, 442 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 8: well that's by naptime. I cannot go. 443 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: No, And I was going to go like I would 444 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: have gone, but I just have to do drive on 445 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: that day, so I can't go. But the thing is, 446 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: they're not what they used to be. 447 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 11: No. 448 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: It used to be about who was getting wasted and 449 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: who was sleeping with who, And that doesn't happen anymore. 450 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 8: It happens from two to But the big thing is 451 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 8: the costumes. Everyone here go. If you don't wear a costume, 452 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 8: you might as. 453 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: Well not go. 454 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 8: They go burg on the costumes. 455 00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: What is there a theme? 456 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 8: There is a theme. 457 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: It's all right. 458 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 8: If they do a seme, I just just rock up 459 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 8: in my vegetable costume or something like that. Even if 460 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 8: it's summertime. I'll even go drist up as a carrot. 461 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 2: Speaking of summer, how is the weather in Auckland today? 462 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 8: Wellhi, twenty four, hasn't it been really really hot? Muggy, 463 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 8: very muggy. So we've got cloudy conditions here in Auckland today. 464 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 8: Scattered light rain which will be welcomed. Apparently that's going 465 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 8: to arrive this evening, but slip slops slay up twenty 466 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 8: four to. 467 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: High Tilliam never thank you very much for that's seventeen 468 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: away from six News Talks VB. 469 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of mind 470 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 471 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: I tell you what your house is worth in just 472 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 2: a few moments. Just gone cowarded to six on News 473 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: Talks EDB right now though Cape Fisher, our US correspondent 474 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: is with us this morning. The CEO of United Healthcare 475 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: has been shot dead in Manhattan. The NYPD currently holding 476 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 2: a presser. They say this is not a random a shooting. 477 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: This appears to be a targeted a tech kate, what's 478 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: the lightest. 479 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 12: Yeah, as you say, LISS, are about to give a 480 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 12: news conference in New York to get more details because 481 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 12: at the moment things are pretty sketchy. We know that 482 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 12: Brian Thompson was shot dead on the street outside the 483 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 12: Hilton Hotel in Midtown Manhattan just before seven am local time. 484 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 12: He was making his way to the hotel for an 485 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 12: investor's meeting. We're told everybody there is in shock, as 486 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 12: our staff of the hotel. As you say, police think 487 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 12: this was targeted and not something random to the Mayor 488 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 12: of New York, Eric Adams, has tried to reassure New 489 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 12: Yorkers that it is safe to be out on the streets. 490 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 12: But clearly a shocking occurrent to kind of seems to 491 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 12: be some sort of execution in the early hours of 492 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 12: this morning. He was wearing a hooded black garment and 493 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 12: escaped on a bike heading down an alleyway towards Central Park. 494 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 12: But other than that, we still don't know what the 495 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 12: motive could be. The police press conference is just starting 496 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 12: as we speak. 497 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could say they've got a fine number up 498 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: for tips, so they're obviously wanting people to dobbin what 499 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: happens and. 500 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 12: A ten thousand dollars reward. 501 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, sounds quite serious. Let's go to Trump and 502 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: has picked the Secretary of Defense. There are allegations of 503 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 2: drinking and treatment of women. Here, is this going to 504 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: be another one that falls by the wayside. 505 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 12: It's certainly looking very tense at the moment as to 506 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 12: whether he can hang on to this. This is Pete 507 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 12: heski the former Fox News presenter, but there are many 508 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 12: allegations about him being drunk on the job and about 509 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 12: potential allegations of misconduct towards women, to the extent that 510 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 12: Donald Trump has apparently started to look for a potential replacement, 511 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 12: including his former rival for the presidential nomination, that is 512 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 12: Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida. They have had not 513 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 12: the closest of relationships, given that they were fighting each 514 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 12: other for the presidential nomination, and so it has surprised 515 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 12: some people that Donald Trump is looking to Ron DeSantis, 516 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 12: But at the moment, Pete Heskiff is still the nominee. 517 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 12: He's on Capitol Hill today trying to persuade some of 518 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 12: those senators who are unsure about him that he is 519 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 12: the man for the job. And his mother would have 520 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 12: even been on TV today trying to say that he 521 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 12: is a great guy and not to worry, even though 522 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 12: back in twenty eighteen she apparently emailed him and told 523 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 12: him he was an abuser of women. Oh yes, God 524 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 12: takes that back and has apologized. But you know it's 525 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 12: not looking great, no. 526 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: And we'll never good. If you need to call your 527 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: mum up to come out and do a presser for you, Kate, 528 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: thank you for that, Kate Fisher. Are you is correspondent 529 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: to just gone twelve minutes away from six Bryan Bridge. 530 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: Shearly one and four beneficiaries are being paid incorrectly. This 531 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: according to an annual report from the Ministry for Social Development. 532 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 2: It found only seventy seven point six percent of clients 533 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 2: had their entitlement correctly assist in twenty three twenty four. 534 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: That is worse than the previous year's result, which was 535 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: eighty two point seven percent. Ricardom as much as the 536 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: Green Party's Sarcial Development spokesperstings with us this morning, we 537 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: kin'd of more than a good morning. Well, this is 538 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 2: obviously not good. And the worst part of this is 539 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: that if you're a beneficiary and you get overpaid, then 540 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: you have a debt that you have to pay back. 541 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. And so what often happens is that 542 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 11: you could be overpaid by say it could be you know, 543 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 11: you know, fifteen dollars each week, but that accumulates and 544 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 11: if MSc picks that up way later than the line, 545 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 11: you could end up then slat with a you know, 546 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 11: thousands of dollars worth of debt from overpayments for something 547 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 11: that wasn't really your fault. MSDY couldn't even tell us 548 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 11: that they would guarantee that if it was their fault, 549 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 11: they would not then slap someone with a massive death 550 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 11: later thunder line, that means that pushes people further down 551 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 11: the poverty line and in a hardship as they have 552 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 11: to repay it. 553 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: The fault thing is crucial because it, as you say, 554 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: will determine who might be responsible. But isn't this just 555 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: a too hard basket thing because you've got somebody who's 556 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: working irregular hours, thereby changing what their entitlement to the 557 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: benefit might be. And every week you've got to basically 558 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: update MSD with how many hours you've worked, otherwise you'll 559 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: be overpaid. 560 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 11: And part of the problem is particularly for people who 561 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 11: are in casual work or moving in and out of work, 562 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 11: is that we have an updated and haven't improved the 563 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 11: system that a lot of people, for example, move from 564 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 11: being on a benefit into part time work. And because 565 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 11: of the way that your benefit effectively obeys, yes, you 566 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 11: do have that moment in which it's really difficult for 567 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 11: a beneficiary to be adjusting those things equally. It's difficile 568 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 11: for the working and competitive as well. 569 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: It's so inefficient. The whole thing sounds so inefficient. You 570 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: have to pick up the phone and ring them and 571 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: tell them what your ours are that week, what is 572 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: your solution. 573 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 11: So there's two things here. If you're listed benefits above 574 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 11: the poverty line and a lot of people to live 575 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 11: with dignity work and income case managers actually wouldn't have 576 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 11: to spend so much time delivering things like hardship and 577 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 11: emergency grants. They could be focusing on the basics like 578 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 11: getting benefit entitlements rights. 579 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is, then do also make work 580 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: look less attractive? You know what I mean? 581 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 11: Well, there's no actually, there's no evidence of spaces for that. 582 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 11: If anything, Actually, when you have people living way below 583 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 11: the poverty line, you make it harder for them to 584 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 11: find work. That's been married and researched across many countries 585 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 11: where they have similar welfare systems. The other part is 586 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 11: that we need to make our abatement rates better. So 587 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 11: this is how much or you lose your benefit when 588 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 11: you enter work. If we make that a lot more stable, 589 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 11: it means you wouldn't have a super complicated welfare system 590 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 11: that even case managers at work and then come struggle 591 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 11: to understand RACARTDA. 592 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: What about an app? I mean, why have these bureaucrats 593 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: not got a simple app that you can log in 594 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: and you can punch And I've done twenty seven hours 595 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: this week. Last week I did twenty six. You know, 596 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: why can't we make this simple? 597 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 11: Well, part of the issue is that successive governments have 598 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 11: tried to make the IT systems better acquires an upfront investment, 599 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 11: and right now we've got a government that actually is 600 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 11: refusing to put enough money to update the IT systems 601 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 11: from working income that are frankly decades and decades old. 602 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 11: All right, well, you're transported to the eighties or well. 603 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 2: I mean obviously the last government had the same approach, 604 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: otherwise we wouldn't still be living in the eighties. Ricardo, 605 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: thank you very much for being on the show. I 606 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: appreciate Ricarverman in India's March talking there about nearly one 607 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: in four beneficiaries being paid incorrectly. You're on news Talks, 608 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: Hebb get ahead of the headlines. 609 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge, you for twenty twenty four on early edition 610 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and a playing store. 611 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: News talk ZIDB. It is six away from six news talks. Heb. 612 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: We had Andrew Hoggart on the program just after five 613 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: this morning. He said he still hasn't had any text 614 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: updates on that second farm. This is to do with 615 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: the bird flow outbreak in Otago. He hasn't had any 616 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: updates over night on the second farm. Testing from that 617 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: farm will be crucial into how this works going forward. 618 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: He's expecting something later today. It has just gone five 619 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: away from six and John just talks Marke's next Good Morning, Mike. 620 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 13: Isn't the saddest saddest story of the day the Christmas 621 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 13: parties in the public service. It's like read through the departments. 622 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 13: If you read through each head it is it is pathetic. 623 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: And do you know there's a there's a social fundraising 624 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: committee for one of these departments, the Crown. Can you 625 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: imagine Debra from the Crown Laws exactly? Social committee, Jessica. 626 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: And so there's a couple of them. The best one, 627 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: and I can't remember which one it is, somebody in 628 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: management is actually buying some drinks for the staff. And 629 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: the worst one, I think is you've got to bring 630 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: seven dollars along. I don't know what do you I mean? 631 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: I said it is seven dollars. Then the ginger, the 632 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: giant jinger machine. I feel bad. The thing is, if 633 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: we're telling workers state employees to come back to the office, 634 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: then you have to. 635 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 13: It is a funny thing, isn't it, Because I mean, 636 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 13: as you well know, I dislike most of the people 637 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 13: around here, and so therefore I don't want to be 638 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 13: part of a social function, so I'd be happy. But 639 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 13: and you can also understand, you know, given the climate, 640 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 13: the moment you have a party or a function, everyone goes, well, 641 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 13: how much does that cost? 642 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: And have paper? 643 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 13: And I get all of that, But when you read 644 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 13: it as this list, it's got this tragic kind of 645 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 13: and you can have seven dollars and this twelve dollars 646 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 13: for you and bring an own plate and bring your 647 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 13: own drink, so you turn up literally with a six pack. 648 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: Under your arm, and some lammington thing is they probably 649 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: would The parties aren't funny anymore? Wouldn't you drink the 650 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: six beers you can have too? It's everyone's non alcoholic, 651 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: and who's no one sleeping with and anyone else? What's 652 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: the fun is that? Is that was? 653 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 13: Is that what happened across where you were at the 654 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 13: old place. 655 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: About It was a Cispit come Christmas. 656 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 13: Anyway, Forestry conversions, big talking on that this morning, so well. 657 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 7: One will deal with it too. 658 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: Nice one. Mic is with your next Have a fantastic 659 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: Tuesday everyone. I will see you tomorrow. 660 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 661 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 662 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.