1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty, local and 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: global exposure like no other. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: On the Huddle of this this evening we got Jack Tame, 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: host of Q and A and Saturday Mornings, and Maurice 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: Williams and Auckland councilor and former National Party Cabinet minister. 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: Hello you two, all right? What did you think? Then? 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: Morris of Richard Chambers like the sound. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: Of it, give me a clue on this one. Sorry, 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: this is the new Polah. Sorry sorry, yes, I've only 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: read about it. 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: I've forgotten. 12 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: No, no, no no, I've just come from a budget 13 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: meeting that's lasted all day and my brain cells were 14 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: leading a bit of warmer. He looks very good, I think, 15 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: I think is everything I've read about him. I was 16 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: hoping it would going to be him compared to the 17 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: other guy. I think the right decisions really. 18 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: Bumped into him because he used to be the district 19 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: commander and all. 20 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: I've bumped into him a few times and been very 21 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 3: impressed and incredibly impressed. I think it'll make a big 22 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: difference into the whole culture and everything totally. 23 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: And Jack, he could not have hidden the fact like 24 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: he was making it very clear that this is going 25 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: to be a complete step change from Andrew Cost, didn't 26 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: He Yeah, it was interesting. 27 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. I had the really interesting interview with Andrew Cost 28 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: just a month or so ago, just before he kind 29 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 4: of finished up, and he had one reflection from his 30 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: time in office, so I thought was quite telling. He 31 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: said that one thing had really come to appreciate was 32 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 4: how important the perceptions of crime wor so not just 33 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: how important the actual crime rates were, but how important 34 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 4: the perceptions of crime wre and he said that he 35 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: PERHPS hadn't appreciated that as well at the start of 36 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 4: his time as Commissioner. And I think, going from your 37 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: conversations with Chambers, this is someone who absolutely appreciates the 38 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: perceptions of crime and the language that he's using. Even 39 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: if the actual policing doesn't materially change in a massive way, 40 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 4: the language around that policing I think he really gets 41 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: and I think that's a significant change. 42 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think people are going to like it 43 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: very much. Hey Morris, did you just are you a 44 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: board member of AT. 45 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: You've got to say that with a bit of sympathy 46 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: as you say it. Yeah, Yes, I've been appointed to 47 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: the board of AT. You haven't been to a board 48 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: meeting yet, so don't blame me for the issue. I think. 49 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: Are you going to sort out the driveway situation? 50 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to try and sort out a huge number 51 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: of issues that are at AT, because I have to say, 52 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: I've been to about four barbecues and functions since I 53 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: was appointed, and every time people have walked up to 54 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: me and said have you just been put on the 55 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: border of AT And I said yeah, they said, you 56 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: poor bastard. Instead of congratulations, it's oh no, what did 57 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: you do that's caused that? 58 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: To you? 59 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: Are you're being punished? So tell me what your perspective is. 60 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 2: What is your view on people parking in their own 61 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: driveway and then getting fined for that. 62 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: It's very simple in my view if it's to do 63 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: with safety. If you're parked over, say a cycle way, 64 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: and a cyclists like to hit your toe bar and 65 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: kill themselves, then you've got to be fine. And if 66 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 3: you're parking over a foot path where kids are coming 67 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: along on their bike and you edit the cart. But 68 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: if you're in a driveway that belongs to your property 69 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: and you're not overlapping into anything else, So you're not 70 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: posing to say what the hell is wrong with that? 71 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: Quite? Jack? Where do you stand on this? 72 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree. If you're blocking the footpath or 73 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: you're blocking a cycle way, you're blocking part of the road, 74 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: we shouldn't be then yes, you should be fine. If 75 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 4: you're not and it's your property, then we shouldn't be 76 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: worried about totally. 77 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: Now, why are they doing this? Morris are just trying 78 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: to get some money in I. 79 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 3: Look, I don't know. I've been at a budget meeting 80 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: all day, as I said, so I'm going to get 81 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: and trying to find out from the chief executive number. 82 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: As far as I know, no other council enforces this rule. 83 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: It's a national rule. Nobody enforces it except for a 84 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: transport Yeah, and they just raise their fines. So it 85 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: feels like revenue. 86 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 3: I'd like to well, I'm going to make sure it's 87 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: not revenue raising because that's not what its purpose should be. 88 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: I accept that if you are blocking things, causing a 89 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: safety issue and so on, then you're not to park 90 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: your car, But if you're parking in a length of 91 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: a part of your driveway, that's not overlapping in any way, 92 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: not causing a problem. That's your part. You're only denying 93 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: access into your property, So what's the problem. 94 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: I'm confused by it though. Are the only people who 95 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: are actually getting fined the people who are parking, like 96 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: with the really big berms, who are parking in that 97 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: kind of strip of the berm between the path in 98 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: the road the burm. 99 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: Jack, As far as I understand the berms in some 100 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: of these parts that's talking about out and Gray Lenn 101 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: and others, the berms are wide enough that a length 102 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: of a car can fit in there and not beyond 103 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: the footpath. And what else would be the sorry. 104 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: So if not a car, what else would be taking 105 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: that space? 106 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: Fresh air? Fresh air would be there. 107 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: So it's ridiculous. Ridiculous. 108 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we all agreed on that one. 109 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: Oh man, do you know what? Tell you what, Morris, 110 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: if you need some help at at Jack and I 111 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: are available to be board members as well, set up 112 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: a subcommittee. Why don't I think I think it's a 113 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: great idea. All right, we'll take a break, come back 114 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: to these two very shortly. 115 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate the 116 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: marketing of your home. 117 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: Right, you're back with a huddle, Jack Tamer, Morris Williams 118 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: and Jack, what about what about from one thing to 119 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: the other, the road cones and traffic management that have 120 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: cost us eight hundred million bucks and three years. 121 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 4: It does seem like a huge sum of money. Not 122 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: quite as big as that climate fund you were just 123 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: talking about the Simon Watts, but it does seem like 124 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: a vast sum of money. But us trying to get 125 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: in my head like what is an appropriate cost for 126 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 4: travel management? Because if all of that money had been 127 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: spent only on road cones, I mean obviously that that 128 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: would be egregious. But when you say, think about some 129 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 4: of the traffic management that kind of has to be 130 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: in place when there are really significant roadworks or roads 131 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: being developed, I can imagine that that stuff wouldn't come cheap. 132 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: So it's hard to know whether or not eight hundred 133 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: million dollars represents good value for money. But yes, on 134 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 4: the face of it, it does seem like a very, 135 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: very very significant sum. 136 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: Jack, I've got a very strong view of this. We 137 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: used to have a very different regime. A certainly, while 138 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: all the years Ice Transport Minister, you put a road 139 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: cone at the beginning of a site and you put 140 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: one at the end and have a little sticker beware, 141 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: and the amount of fatalities and injuries and that was 142 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: almost zero any rate. So what is the problem you're 143 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: trying to fix. And now you do a speed bump 144 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: in Williamson Avenue and of the seven hundred and ninety 145 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 3: thousand to do that bump, one hundred and seventy thousand 146 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: was traffic safety manage nuts. That makes no sense. 147 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: The other day I was driving, I'll tell you what, Jack, 148 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: the other day I was driving in Corrimandel and they 149 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: had blocked off I reckon. I don't want to be unkind. 150 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: Let's say a k and a half. I feel like 151 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: it's two k's but I'm going to go k and 152 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: a half just to be conservative about a k and 153 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: a half of road because they with with traffic cones 154 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: everywhere because they had one to go on the side 155 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: of the road. And what it is is that it's 156 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: just overkill. Right, it can just be brought right back, 157 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: so you don't need to block off that much road. 158 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: You can third it. 159 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, I mean I would certainly agree with that. 160 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 4: That seems absolutely ridiculous. 161 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: It's just you know what I mean. 162 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: It is hard to quantify without breaking down every single 163 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 4: you know, traffic management in place. But yeah, I would. 164 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: I would for sure say that sometimes we do go 165 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 4: a bit over the top of this. If the alternative 166 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: is that more people die, then I'm not into it. 167 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: But if you can do it. 168 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: So what's the value of a life? What's what's the 169 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: value of a life? 170 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: It always has to be safety at reasonable cost. Yes, 171 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: safety at any cost. Then you drive a ten kilometers 172 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: from now and cars would, the economy would I'm not. 173 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: Being facetious here. We literally value a life, right, So 174 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: you've got to You've actually got to work out the 175 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: calculations go, well, we can afford to lose one. 176 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: But let me give you the most egregious example. State 177 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: Highway one, the whiteout of Expressway near tech Rangereari for 178 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: five months had big signs up for seventy K and 179 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: orange cones, but they weren't actually able to get the 180 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: people that could come in and do the chip seal 181 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: to come in. So for five months, seventy K was 182 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: up where if you drove through Wrangereri yet it's one 183 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: hundred and ten kilometer wrote and you know what, everyone did. 184 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: They drove it one hundred and ks. And when I 185 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: caught in touch with NZTA and said, what is going 186 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: on here? Oh, well, well you don't want to take 187 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: all the signage down because we're hoping to get the 188 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: contractor on the site soon, I said, it's five months. 189 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: My mother was in whykee at Osboral I was going 190 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: down almost daily, and I said, well, when I was 191 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: boss of when I was minister, I actually told Transit 192 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: that's unacceptable. Go out with some sugar sacks, pull them 193 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: over the seventy K sign and then take them off 194 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: when you're ready to do the chock rise. It is 195 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: just there's no focus on the customer, which is the 196 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: driver and the person who's paying the fuel tax. You're 197 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: paying fuel tax, you're paying road user chargers, you're paying 198 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: registration for all the work these people that do it, 199 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: and they don't give us stuff about the customer exactly. 200 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: Hey, Jack, tell me quickly, what's your theories We haven't 201 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: got long now, but what's your theory on why the 202 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: kids are drinking less? 203 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: I think you're right. I think to a certain degree, 204 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: I think they probably don't socialize in person the same 205 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: way that previous generations do. And you look at kind 206 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: of similar studies out of the US, it shows that 207 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: young people use recreational drugs less they actually have sex 208 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: at an older age. And you might say that these 209 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: are all positive things, and look, in one sense they are, 210 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: but yeah, like me living well, I think if the 211 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: cost of any of these things, or if this is 212 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: reflective of people being more isolated and lonely, then that 213 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 4: comes with its own series of health challenges. Whether or 214 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: not these directly, you know, it's like a causational correlation thing. 215 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: Whether or not you're able to say one is directly 216 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: causational or the other, I'm not sure, but yeah, I 217 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 4: think there is something in what you said. Although generally speaking, 218 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: young people having less hazardous drinking is a good thing, 219 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 4: what do you think. 220 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: I think it's great, But I think a whole lot 221 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: of drivers. First of all, technology and gaming. All my 222 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: boys were on gaming machines and spending hours and nights 223 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: on and so on. And my older so he has never 224 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: drunk a drop of alcohol in his life. He's in 225 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: his thirties now, never drunk. And he said, every time 226 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: I looked in the rear seat in the mirror of 227 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: my friends in the back seat drunk as a skunk 228 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: at three am. I thought, no, I'm never doing that. Yeah, 229 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: And I just think now, people, I remember parties at 230 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: Power and Nui where we would walk down the beach 231 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: to somewhere and couldn't almost walk home. We were so blotto, 232 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: and I don't do that anymore. 233 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: That's Parwa Nui. Before it was flash. No, God, you 234 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: flash guy. 235 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: But I just don't do it anymore. I have a 236 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: glass of wine with dinner and that'll be no good 237 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: for you. 238 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: Morris say, I am completely alcohol free at the moment. Actually, yeah, 239 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: but you have to be I do. Yeah. I was 240 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: trying to be. I was trying to be a little 241 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: bit morally righteous there for once in my life. Guys, 242 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: thank you appreciate it. Morris Williams and Jack Taymer huddle. 243 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: This evening's for more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive. 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