1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Proving we can all agree on something. I guess the 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: nets and Labor have joined to speed up the process 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: of modern slavery Members Bill now the keys that's some 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: members bill. Essentially, it forces larger businesses to report how 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: they identify and managed slavery risks in their supply chains. 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Greg Fleming is the national impi charge of this particular bill. 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Is with us, Greg morning, good morning you in complete 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: alignment or is it all in the detail? 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: Pretty much in alignment, but there will be a bunch 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: of detail threasts out at the selectivity stage, which hopefully 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: we'll get in too. 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: Fast just to explain people but without boring them because 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: it's a members bill process, no time debate, speed of bill, 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: et cetera. If you can get the sixty one on board, 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: we're in business. That's how it works, right, It's correct. 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. It just basically means that we skip the biscuits in. 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: It also means we ask the Business Committee to throw 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: us up to the top of the order paper, which 19 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: means we should be able to have a first reading 20 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: first Member's day about two and a half weeks, and 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: we'll go for a hopefully a shortened selectivity process and 22 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: the aimers that will be able to have this in 23 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: law by a sort of third quarter. 24 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Do you understand X objection? 25 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: I sure do, yeah, yeah. So I've been working on 26 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: this for several years, and in part of that, I've 27 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: done it of consultation with businesses that will be affected 28 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: by this, and I do hear their concerns, and I'm 29 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: certainly not a fan of business regulation for the sake 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: of regulation. So what we've done is taking a lot 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: of learnings from overseas experience, particularly in Australia, because they've 32 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: been at this for about seven or eight years now 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: and have had a substantive review quite recently. And so 34 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: we're going to be going with ten plateforms in the light, 35 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: just to ensure this really does add value rather than 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: just costs. 37 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: Well, see, this is the weird thing. It seems esoteric 38 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: to me. I mean, so you go to the warehouse, 39 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: how far down the chain, how many countries, how many 40 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: factories do they need to explore to convince the authorities 41 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: whoever they are, that there isn't modern slavery and their 42 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: five dollars ninety nine t shirt. 43 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's about getting businesses actually looking at it. So 44 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: a lot of responsible businesses already are, in which case 45 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: this is actually going to be quite a simple process 46 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: for them. It's like any kind of framework in law, 47 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: it's always aimed at those the reculcitrants. And so you 48 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: just create a culture within a business where this is 49 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: actually something that they take account of when they are 50 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: setting up and renewing their supply chains. 51 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Who's enforcing it? 52 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: This will sit within MB and then the commissioner role 53 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: will sit within the Human Rights Commission. 54 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 1: Good on you, Nice to talk to you, Greg, Greg 55 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Fleming Modern. So it's good. It's got social media band 56 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: written all over it, hasn't it. 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