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Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrover, Leading by Example, news Togs,

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Speaker 2: Dead Bull and Welcome Today.

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Speaker 3: The Commissioner and the Policeman Stern the Phillip's Case. So

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Speaker 3: Brian Roche, Public Services Commissioner on his ongoing battle of

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Speaker 3: the education unions. Are good news from the super Fun

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Speaker 3: good news of euro Renter Catherine Field? Are the votes

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Speaker 3: gone badly? So we need a new government? Rod Liddell

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Speaker 3: checks in from the UK, asking it is seven pass six,

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Speaker 3: so tell you what I'd like to think. In fact,

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Speaker 3: we should all thank Kelly Echoldt, sometime participant on the

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Speaker 3: show most of the time economists at Westpac for us

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Speaker 3: thinking around the future of the Reserve Bank. As I've

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Speaker 3: said many many times, if one good thing came out

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Speaker 3: of COVID, it put the Reserve Bank its role and

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Speaker 3: influence front end center for many more of us that

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Speaker 3: may never really have paid attention to its workings and

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Speaker 3: its ability to shape everyday aspects of our lives. Eckold

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Speaker 3: suggests the new governor put the inflation target a little

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Speaker 3: bit higher than the one point three percent historically we

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Speaker 3: said at about two and a half percent, so chasing

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Speaker 3: less than that and have a lot of effects you

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Speaker 3: may or may not want do Remember some inflation's good.

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Speaker 3: You actually want inflation, you just don't want the amount

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Speaker 3: we've had, and you want it produced from growth, not

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Speaker 3: just the cost plus accounting from councils and power companies.

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Speaker 3: More importantly for me is the public accountability. He speaks of.

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Speaker 3: The quickly or debarcle shows you what can go on

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Speaker 3: if public disclosure is not as fulsome as it could be.

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Speaker 3: Echold wants the Monetary Committee vote made public good idea,

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Speaker 3: So it should be. It's not often there's a divergence,

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Speaker 3: but there has been lately, in fact, in the last

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Speaker 3: statement and involved the vote of four to two. They've

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Speaker 3: never had that happen before four to two. So why

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Speaker 3: don't we know who they were and what they said? Well,

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Speaker 3: the rules as they stand mean a person on the

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Speaker 3: committee can indeed out themselves. But you will notice from

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Speaker 3: last time no one did. Why not next time? A

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Speaker 3: press conference should be held after each meeting, not just

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Speaker 3: the ones that produce a cash right call good idea.

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Speaker 3: I cannot and I know I'm a wonk, but I

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Speaker 3: cannot press enough the value of watching these things live,

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Speaker 3: not just the Reserve Bank but politicians who these days,

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Speaker 3: thanks to digital coverage place like the Herald run them

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Speaker 3: in full routine them I mean Peter's over the weekend

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Speaker 3: spoke for an excess of an hour. It was an

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Speaker 3: interesting watch. The irony of that is you would be

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Speaker 3: amazed what you learn as opposed to what you may

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Speaker 3: or may not learn from a news bullet and edited

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Speaker 3: and often curtailed to a point of nonsense later in

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Speaker 3: the day. The best example on an ongoing basis of

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Speaker 3: the Prime ministerial press conference on a Monday after cabinet

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Speaker 3: yesterday was a good example, went for about forty five

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Speaker 3: to fifty minutes. It was interesting. So more press is

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Speaker 3: more transparency, which is more detailed, more sunlike, more inquisition,

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Speaker 3: more knowledge. What possibly could the Reserve Bank argue is

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Speaker 3: wrong with that?

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Speaker 1: Wow, News of the world in ninety second time.

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Speaker 3: In France, as the PM tries one last time to

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Speaker 3: convince his colleagues living within new means is not a

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Speaker 3: bad idea.

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Speaker 4: I'm asking your approval on one single point, the realization

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Speaker 4: of the country situation. Trance has not a balanced budget

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Speaker 4: for fifty one.

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Speaker 3: Years didn't quite get the message across to the national rally.

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Speaker 5: When we hear about upcoming tax increases of more than

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Speaker 5: twenty billion euros more public spending with no savings made

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Speaker 5: on wasteful state spending, our responsibility is to stop these

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Speaker 5: people from further wrecking our public finances.

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Speaker 3: No looking.

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Speaker 4: This is the end of a ghost government, a shadow government.

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Speaker 4: In eight months, a number of invisible or transparent ministers

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Speaker 4: were able to produce only five laws.

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Speaker 3: It didn't work. Three sixty four to one ninety four

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Speaker 3: wasn't even close. So Beo's gone. Governments collapsed and Macron's

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Speaker 3: going to have to find himself another Prime Minister. Catherine

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Speaker 3: with the detail shortly Middle East, the Palestinians, open fire

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Speaker 3: and East Jerusalem.

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Speaker 5: Six of the While it was happening, I saw people falling,

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Speaker 5: getting hurt while trying to escape. I saw a woman

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Speaker 5: who suddenly fainted and another woman who was bleeding.

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Speaker 6: Thank god I was spared.

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Speaker 3: So what to do? Like Ukraine, I guess all roads

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Speaker 3: seem to lead back to this flog.

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Speaker 7: I think I think we're going to have a deal

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Speaker 7: on Gaza very soon.

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Speaker 8: It's a hell of a problem.

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Speaker 3: Won't give again, It's a problem we.

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Speaker 7: Want it solve for the Middle East, for Israel, for

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Speaker 7: for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Then in the UK and new Home Secretary, new rules,

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Speaker 3: maybe for illegals.

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Speaker 9: Countries that do not pay ball. We've been talking about

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Speaker 9: how we can take much more coordinated action between the

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Speaker 9: five highest countries and for us that means including possiully

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Speaker 9: the cutting of visas in the future.

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Speaker 3: Rod little with that after thirty this morning finally knew

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Speaker 3: Benksy Mural. Do look at it because it's as always brilliant.

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Speaker 3: It's on the side of the Royal Courts of Justice

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Speaker 3: Central London. Chose a judge beating up a protester with

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Speaker 3: a gabble. Very Pillastinian nect of you followed that debicle

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Speaker 3: over the weekend. It's been covered by plastic sheets already

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Speaker 3: a metal barriers, but there are plenty of photos of

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Speaker 3: it around. It may not last long despite its artistic

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Speaker 3: merit that's new to the world in the ninety hard

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Speaker 3: to read at the moment given what's going on. But

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Speaker 3: we want China to do well, don't we for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 3: But we've got these tariffs and I'll come back with

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Speaker 3: some postal numbers in a couple of moments been anyway.

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Speaker 3: Their exports climb four point four percent in August in

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Speaker 3: US dollar terms, is that good? Not really? Lowest growth

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Speaker 3: since February. Imports up one point three percent last month

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Speaker 3: from a year ago, missed the Reuters target of three percent.

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Speaker 3: So it's hard to know whether they're struggling just because

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Speaker 3: they're struggling, or whether the tariffs are playing a part

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Speaker 3: or a combination of the both. But there's the numbers.

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Speaker 3: Twelve past six.

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Speaker 3: The Stateside had winning a loss for the president, so

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Speaker 3: he's lost on e Gene Carroll. The court rejected his

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Speaker 3: bit to overturn that jury verdict. The he owes her

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Speaker 3: eighty three point three million dollars. They argued it was

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Speaker 3: excessive and he's got some sort of presidential immunity. Now,

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Speaker 3: quoting the Supreme Court, they said, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 3: You lose. On the upside, the Supreme Court has allowed

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Speaker 3: the Ice National Guard thing to continue the so called

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Speaker 3: roving patrols in southern California. The lower court said it

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Speaker 3: violated the Fourth Amendment. The Supreme Court said, not true.

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Speaker 3: So you can hit the streets again. They didn't offer

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Speaker 3: somems sharp descent from the three liberal justices. But apart

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Speaker 3: from that, it's a win. Fifteen past six j My

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Speaker 3: Welth Andrew Keller, how good morning, very good morning, marking

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Speaker 3: the stage CPI, the PPI, the stagflation, the growth, the mood,

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Speaker 3: the vibe, what's going on.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, let's talk stagflation. And I'm prompted to do this

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Speaker 10: by that absolute shocker of a number that we saw

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Speaker 10: in the US labour market over the week and that

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Speaker 10: non fun parilsnum that you spoke about yesterday morning. And

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Speaker 10: I think you made the comment, the very perceptive comment

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Speaker 10: that getting rid of the head of the Bureau of

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Speaker 10: Labor Statistics hasn't improved the numbers so much that the

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Speaker 10: numbers are what they are. But anyway, we're starting to

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Speaker 10: see more headlines now featuring this concept of stagflation over there,

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Speaker 10: which implies very low growth but problematic inflation, and that

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Speaker 10: is a very tricky situation for the central bank to handle.

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Speaker 10: It's one of the most difficult things that a central

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 10: I note Mike that this week sees the release of

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Speaker 10: what these large scale historic revisions, so a big, major

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Speaker 10: tidy up of data of the non farm payroll data.

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Speaker 10: This happens once a year and it looks back to

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Speaker 10: sort of the year to March twenty five. But I

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Speaker 10: expect this number to be significantly negative. It's not going

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Speaker 10: to help the vibe at all. And then over the

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Speaker 10: just want to the point here is that the definition

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Speaker 10: of recession in the US is a bit different from here.

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Speaker 10: It's easy. Here, we just say two quarters of negative

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Speaker 10: in the States, the National Bureau of Economic Research is

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Speaker 10: the arbiter of what constitutes a recession, and they talk

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Speaker 10: about a significant decline in economic activity across the country

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Speaker 10: that lasts for more than a few months, across a

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Speaker 10: range of factors. Now, whereas a recession does seem likely,

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Speaker 10: it's not that hard to point the finger for what

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Speaker 10: could be significant US economic malays at these trade and

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Speaker 10: terrif issues. The FED is argued all along that the

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Speaker 10: impact of tariffs possibly won't feed through the households for

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Speaker 10: an extended period of time if you think about it.

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Speaker 10: They really came into play, you know, July August, so

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Speaker 10: you know, you're probably not going to see the impact

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Speaker 3: Like to see it moved.

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Speaker 10: Now, what I will say is that the futures pricing

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Speaker 10: And almost three cuts by Christmas. So it looks like

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Speaker 10: the weak labor market will trump the inflation concerns as

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Speaker 10: far as the market's opened.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's the stage. What about here? Next week?

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Speaker 3: Also we get our big Q two read So what

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Speaker 10: So yeah, we get the release. So today, Mike and

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Speaker 10: be the final imput since the Q two GDP forecast.

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Speaker 10: So you had that building work put in place that

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Speaker 10: minus zero point three percent forecast contained in the most

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Speaker 10: recent RB and Z month for Policy statement. Today we

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Speaker 10: get the release of what called the Business Financial Employment

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Speaker 10: data for the June courter that includes manufacturing data. Now

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Speaker 10: this this will or should allow the local economists to

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Speaker 10: finalize their GDP forecasts. Look, we won't even get close

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Speaker 10: to the zero point six percent the Lucky Country punched

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Speaker 10: out over the second quarter across the Tasman but Isis's

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Speaker 10: minus zero point three And if you look at the

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Speaker 10: RB and Z, the Army said to a great Page

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Speaker 10: Mike that the GDP now live cast.

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Speaker 3: It's a forecast.

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Speaker 10: You can go the RB and Z you can have

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Speaker 10: a look at it. That has improved since the Monetary

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Speaker 3: So that's GDP. That's next Thursday.

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Speaker 10: You've got a whole bunch of other data this week.

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Speaker 10: You've got PMI on Friday and the POSI next Monday.

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Speaker 10: Got migration numbers, cards, spending, all good stuff, and we'll

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Speaker 10: update those over the course of the week.

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Speaker 3: And itallytastic. What are the numbers?

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Speaker 3: He's a small irony. Oh super fun. This is the

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Speaker 3: offer subject to change without notice. Very good, give me

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Speaker 3: one glimp asking very good red meat numbers for you

441
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Speaker 3: once again, Thank the good Lord. The farmers are doing

442
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Speaker 3: the business. I'll come back to that. But speaking of numbers,

443
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Speaker 3: just let me warm you up for our chat with

444
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Speaker 3: Brian Roach, the Public Services Commissioner. Dealing with the teachers.

445
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Speaker 3: So pay increases for primary between three thousand, eight hundred

446
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Speaker 3: and nine thousand, four hundred ren regular annual progression included

447
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Speaker 3: over the two years, you're looking at an increase of

448
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Speaker 3: seven thy seven hundred through to six sixteen thousand, nine hundred.

449
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Speaker 3: Average salary for primary school teachers increased from eighty five

450
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Speaker 3: thousand three years ago to ninety four thousand, now fifty

451
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Speaker 3: seven percent of full time. Primary teachers are now earning

452
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Speaker 3: between nineteen one hundred and ten thousand dollars and sixteen

453
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Speaker 3: percent are earning over one hundred and ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Does that strike you as pretty good?

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Speaker 11: Six forty five international correspondence with ends in eye insurance,

456
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Speaker 11: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Frank Gatinfield in Morning Inclod Morning, mate, I think that

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Speaker 3: interested me most. I think we all knew he was

459
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Speaker 3: going to lose. Is how much he lost by? Why

460
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Speaker 3: was he routed that way?

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Speaker 15: Well? Yeah, time is up for French Prime minister. So

462
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Speaker 15: by who nine months in office and who would have

463
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Speaker 15: believed that he would have such a resounding kicking out

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Speaker 15: of office? Mike, Nearly two thirds of Parliament voted against him.

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Speaker 15: Not only that, some fifteen MPs from his own party

466
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Speaker 15: also voted for him to leave the scene. So pretty

467
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Speaker 15: extraordinary scenes after only nine months in office.

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Speaker 14: Part of it, Mike was his attitude.

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Speaker 15: He antagonized part of my who seemed to antagonize everyone

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Speaker 15: he spoke to. He didn't negotiate, he didn't try and

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Speaker 15: seek coalitions. He sort of stayed within his sort of

472
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Speaker 15: fractured right wing block in Parliament.

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Speaker 14: And talked among them themselves.

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Speaker 15: Then when it came to putting a budget for next year,

475
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Speaker 15: he just put together a budget and handed it down

476
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Speaker 15: and said, this is what we're going to have. It's

477
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Speaker 15: going to be what eighty seven billion New Zealand dollars

478
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Speaker 15: worth of savings and if you want to talk to me,

479
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Speaker 15: you know where I am. So of course that really

480
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Speaker 15: did annoy people. The parliamentarians were saying, no, you know

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Speaker 15: the way that you do this, if you've got a

482
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Speaker 15: split parliament like this, a minority government, you come and

483
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Speaker 15: talk to us before you.

484
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Speaker 14: Put the budget down. So that didn't go down well.

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Speaker 15: And I think there were two more things that really

486
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Speaker 15: did rile parliamentarians. One was he said over the summer

487
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Speaker 15: months he couldn't get in touch with any of the parliamentarians,

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Speaker 15: any of the MPs. He said they were all on holiday,

489
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Speaker 15: so it was as though mobile phones didn't even exist.

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Speaker 15: The other thing we're hearing was that he led Emanual Macron,

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Speaker 15: the president, to believe that he had already talked to

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Speaker 15: the other political parties about this vote of confidence, and

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Speaker 15: it seemed that he hadn't, and so Emanual Macron is

494
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Speaker 15: going to be meetings hansel By, who was just under

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Speaker 15: twelve hours time from now, and we'll say, yeah, you've

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Speaker 15: got to stay.

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Speaker 14: On as a caretaker until we get a new prime minister.

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Speaker 14: But you're fired.

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Speaker 15: You singly failed to do the job I put you

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Speaker 15: in there for the country is still in fiscal chaos.

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Speaker 14: And everything will just go on.

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Speaker 15: The President's office has said there will be a new

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Speaker 15: prime minister in the coming days.

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Speaker 3: Right, does you exactly does this reflect badly on Macron?

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Speaker 3: I mean he can't keep picking prime ministers.

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Speaker 15: Kenny Well his alternative, he can keep picking prime ministers. Yeah,

507
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Speaker 15: this is only a political crisis, it's not constitutional crisis.

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Speaker 15: He could dissolve parliament again, it's been more than a

509
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Speaker 15: year since there were parliamentary elections. But if he does

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Speaker 15: that then his party would do even worse than it

511
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Speaker 15: did just every year ago. You would still not have

512
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Speaker 15: a strong central government a parliament there. And there is

513
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Speaker 15: also the risk that Marhine la pen in the far

514
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Speaker 15: right would do better. The latest shows that would come

515
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Speaker 15: in with around thirty one percent of the vote, so

516
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Speaker 15: that's way ahead of the Left block which were coming

517
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Speaker 15: at twenty three percent. So he's just got to keep

518
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Speaker 15: fumbling along.

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Speaker 3: Interesting how much of the weight of the argument you'll

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Speaker 3: append your national rallies, which is, we're not against what

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Speaker 3: you're trying to do. It's just like, have a look

522
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Speaker 3: over there at the waist, and we're over there at

523
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Speaker 3: the waist and start tiding up some of the waste

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Speaker 3: that we see as waste as opposed to what you

525
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Speaker 3: might see his waste.

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Speaker 14: Well, that's exactly it.

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Speaker 15: You've not only got mahinla Pen the far right saying, hey, listen,

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Speaker 15: you know, don't just cut government spending, don't just cut

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Speaker 15: healthcare spending. Have a bit more of a of a

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Speaker 15: you know, finger on the wallet of the super rich.

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Speaker 15: You get some money from them. And that's exactly also

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Speaker 15: what the socials say. On the left, there's saying, you know,

533
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Speaker 15: let's have a rich text, the ultra rich should be

534
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Speaker 15: taxed more. The thing.

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Speaker 14: The other thing is essentially mat Krome.

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Speaker 15: He's got what two years, not not even two years

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Speaker 15: after an office. He's a lame duck when it comes

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Speaker 15: to to the domestic politics anyway, and no one likes him.

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Speaker 15: His opinion whole ratings are really low. At the best,

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Speaker 15: he can sort of scuffer together eighteen percent approval ratings,

541
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Speaker 15: so no one wants him to succeed, so all he

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Speaker 15: can do is try and find another prime minister.

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Speaker 14: And as they're saying here, you.

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Speaker 15: Know, just in the last couple of minutes, the joke

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Speaker 15: around is next, please, who wants it next?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, isn't it. I mean you need

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Speaker 3: to find I suppose Barney was like that. You know,

548
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Speaker 3: he'd been doing other work. He's probably sitting there having

549
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Speaker 3: a good time, and he said, do you want to

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Speaker 3: do me a favor and run the place for a

551
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Speaker 3: while and see when you get some numbers through the house.

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Speaker 3: You need to find somebody who's gone. Look, I'll give

553
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Speaker 3: it a crack, but I mean, who wants that?

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Speaker 15: Well, this is also the problem when you've got presidential

555
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Speaker 15: elections coming up in just under two years time. No

556
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Speaker 15: one wants to have their copybook blotted by having ruined

557
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Speaker 15: the economy, of being behind a widespread process that break out,

558
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Speaker 15: which is expected that there will be protests the next

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Speaker 15: couple of weeks. There's almost someone somewhere some of the

560
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Speaker 15: names that have been dripped up, you know, politicians have

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Speaker 15: retired and they can bring them back to sort of

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Speaker 15: mind the shock. So steady the ship, and I think

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Speaker 15: that is actually what Macron does, what and if anything

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Speaker 15: that was fast our Byrooy managed to do. They kind

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Speaker 15: of stabilize it for a while domestically, which allowed Macron

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Speaker 15: to go and do what he does on the international scene,

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Speaker 15: which French people do like all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Catherine, good to catch up with you. So you

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Speaker 3: asson Catherine Field in France for us this morning. And

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Speaker 3: I mean that's before we get to Britain, which is

571
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Speaker 3: equally a cluster at the moment, after the reshuffle and

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Speaker 3: the resignation in the boat for the deputy Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: and all the new jobs that will come to rod

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Speaker 3: later on mine away from seven, the.

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Speaker 2: Make Hosking breakfast with Rainthrower news TODs dead b.

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Speaker 3: By the taxpayer union poll yesterday. I wasn't a national

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Speaker 3: upper bur labor gone nowhere anyway. The point is sixty

578
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Speaker 3: one sixty. Everyone seemed to make a headline out of it.

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Speaker 3: It would be a change of government. I mean, will

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Speaker 3: it really? I mean if you look at the numbers

581
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Speaker 3: for the parties, the Greens are at almost eleven percent,

582
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Speaker 3: that's not real. To party Murray is at four and

583
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Speaker 3: a half percent, that's not real. It's not remotely real.

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Speaker 3: So all the rest are you know, apparently actor at

585
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Speaker 3: six point seven. It may or may not be real.

586
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Speaker 3: But they're down two points. I mean, you don't lose that.

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Speaker 3: There's too much movement, is what I'm saying. It's up,

588
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Speaker 3: it's down, it's all over the place. The by election

589
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Speaker 3: was going to be close. Woops, Now it wasn't five

590
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Speaker 3: minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fiz with

592
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Speaker 2: business flavor, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Telling it's going to be close, and that's going to

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Speaker 3: make the next year an exciting year. QB house price startup,

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Speaker 3: what can I tell you? Down for the three months

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Speaker 3: until August, So the last three months until August down

597
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Speaker 3: zero point eight on average, So the average price around

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Speaker 3: the country nine oh seven. Now Queen's down laughing up

599
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Speaker 3: two point five percent, that's almost a percent a month.

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Speaker 3: Also an increase one point seven percent in Hastings. A

601
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Speaker 3: couple of small ones tower on a zero point three

602
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Speaker 3: in picangle zero point four, New plymth zero point one,

603
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Speaker 3: all moving in the right direction. Nelson largest quarterly drop

604
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Speaker 3: at three point two. That's over a percent a month,

605
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Speaker 3: what's going on? Nelson? Wellington down two point four, Auckland

606
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Speaker 3: one point four, Hamilton one point two. Christ It's down

607
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Speaker 3: one point two. Hamilton's interesting. Wait till I get to

608
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Speaker 3: Hamilton Central. The Needon down zero point seven. It's flatish,

609
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Speaker 3: apart from the odd exception, flatish. I think we're settling

610
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Speaker 3: down a bit now. If you want to do your

611
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Speaker 3: peak numbers, Auckland's down twenty percent on peak, Wellington's down

612
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Speaker 3: thirty percent on peak. Once upon a time, Wellington, your

613
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Speaker 3: house was worth one point four million, Now it's worth one.

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Speaker 3: You've lost four hundred thousand dollars and you've got Tory

615
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Speaker 3: Queenstown now one eight six. Your home is worth two

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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy thousand dollars more than it was in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty to it's the place to be now. As

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Speaker 3: regards my big bet with Andrew Callaheer, I said prices

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Speaker 3: would rise seven percent for the year. I am, of

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Speaker 3: course right if you isolate out Techapoe as the singular

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Speaker 3: example of that, and in the techapoe is up seven percent.

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Speaker 3: See I told you, and I think that's what we've

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Speaker 3: been focusing on. I said, you know where Tekapo goes,

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Speaker 3: the market goes. I mean, that's an old saying in

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Speaker 3: real estate. And what about Hamilton Central, So Hamilton General,

626
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Speaker 3: don't worry about what I said about them. Hamilton Central

627
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Speaker 3: up six point eight percent? Shall we call that seven?

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Speaker 3: Shall we call it lunch?

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Speaker 6: No wonder they call it the city of Love.

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Speaker 3: That is exactly what's going on there, right News me

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Speaker 3: in a couple of moments, Police Commissioner Richard Chambers, Mark

632
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Speaker 3: Mitchell on the same subject later on, and the Brian

633
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Speaker 3: Roach with us as well.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

635
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Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life

636
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Speaker 2: Your Way News togs.

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Speaker 3: Head been seven past seven, so after virtually four years,

638
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Speaker 3: the Tom Phillips saka came to a conclusion yesterday in

639
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Speaker 3: dramatic fashion. Phillips as dead. A police officer remains in condition,

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Speaker 3: but the children are safe, with the remaining two haven't

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Speaker 3: been found. Late afternoon, Richard Chambers, Police Commissioner with us,

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 3: As we sit here this morning, the overarching approach of

645
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Speaker 3: the police in allowing this to go as long as

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Speaker 3: it did. Your views are what.

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Speaker 12: Well look First of all, Mike, I am very very

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Speaker 12: relieved that we have safely recovered for children. Our goal

649
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Speaker 12: was always to ensure they're safe recovery. It was also

650
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Speaker 12: to ensure the safe arrest of mister Phillips that played

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Speaker 12: out in a way yesterday morning that none of us

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Speaker 12: hoped would occur, but it did. Yes, it's taken a while,

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Speaker 12: and I know there'll be questions, but I've been brief

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Speaker 12: throughout this process. I know my staff have worked very

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Speaker 12: very hard for a very long time in very challenging circumstances, dances,

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Speaker 12: and you know, it's there's obviously a lot of work

657
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Speaker 12: to do now in terms of putting the puzzle together,

658
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Speaker 12: but I know how hard they've worked, and I'm just

659
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Speaker 12: very very relieved that the children have been recovered safely.

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Speaker 3: I think we all are. Having said that, when you

661
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Speaker 3: talk about the questions, who's asking the questions? And are

662
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Speaker 3: you asking the questions of yourself? And is that an

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Speaker 3: official process?

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Speaker 12: Absolutely it is, Mike. Yes, Look, we ask questions of

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Speaker 12: ourselves all the time. Even I have been involved in

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Speaker 12: that this year while I've been the commissioner. I visited

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Speaker 12: staff at their operation day, so visited staff out in

668
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Speaker 12: the field and the bush late at night. You know,

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Speaker 12: I've shown them my best support, and we've always asked

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Speaker 12: questions of ourselves. We challenge ourselves. We've spoken to other

671
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Speaker 12: law enforcement, we've spoken with private providers of capability. We've

672
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Speaker 12: done everything, and my staff have done a magnificent job,

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Speaker 12: very very challenging circumstances.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like because I was going to ask, was

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Speaker 3: this a deliberate approach? In other words, were you worried

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Speaker 3: that the children would be harmed therefore you didn't want

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Speaker 3: to bring it to a dramatic conclusion or your comments

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Speaker 3: previously indicate that perhaps you were looking, but you simply

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Speaker 3: couldn't find them.

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Speaker 15: No.

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Speaker 12: Look, we have always been very very concerned, Mike. We

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Speaker 12: knew that we were dealing with an armed, a dangerous

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Speaker 12: and a very motivated individual in mister Phillips, and we

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Speaker 12: had to be very very cautious about the approach that

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Speaker 12: we have taken. You know, that played out yesterday morning

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Speaker 12: in a way that we suspected it could, which is

687
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Speaker 12: not something that any of us wanted. But our assessment

688
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Speaker 12: of the situation over the last four years has been

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Speaker 12: spot on, and that was shown yesterday morning when when

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Speaker 12: we confronted mister Phillips, he shot one of my staff and.

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Speaker 6: We had to return fire.

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Speaker 12: And we have always been concerned that that may be

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Speaker 12: exactly what occurred, and of course that may also involve

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Speaker 12: the children.

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Speaker 3: When you found the camp and the two kids at

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Speaker 3: the camp last night, was it a place where you

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Speaker 3: thought it's no wonder we didn't find it, or was

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Speaker 3: it a place you thought, hell, we should have been

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Speaker 3: here sooner.

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Speaker 12: Well, look, we are very confident that this is not

701
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Speaker 12: the location where they have spent a considerable amount of time.

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Speaker 12: We believe they have been moving around. The terrain in

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Speaker 12: this area is challenging, and they've been on the move,

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Speaker 12: and they were deep in the bush about two kilometers

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Speaker 12: away from where the shooting occurred yesterday morning. And we

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Speaker 12: also had information that there were further firearms at this campsite.

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Speaker 12: So again, yes, it took us a while to ensure

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Speaker 12: the safe fortaviary of the children yesterday, but we had

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Speaker 12: to take that approach because we knew that there were

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Speaker 12: firearms present and we could not we could not risk

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Speaker 12: anything plan out that might compromise the safety of those children.

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Speaker 3: All my staff correct me if I've got this wrong,

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Speaker 3: but the officer going to the burglary was by himself.

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Speaker 3: Back up was coming, but in an area where you

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Speaker 3: knew he probably was and there would be a burglary

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Speaker 3: or some sort of issue in the early hours of

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Speaker 3: a morning. Why was a singular police officer going to

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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 12: Well, look, I was in Albourn yesterday. I got a

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Speaker 12: phone call it one pin forty seven in the morning,

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Speaker 12: and as soon as that happened, I jumped onto our

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Speaker 12: police system and I had a look at the number

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Speaker 12: of units that were in the area at the time,

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Speaker 12: and yes, that support was close by, and that obviously

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Speaker 12: played out yesterday morning, thank Heavens, with the backup that

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Speaker 12: was there on the spot. So he was in a

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Speaker 12: car police on his own, but he was with his

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Speaker 12: colleagues Yesaturday morning, so I'm confident that support was what

729
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Speaker 12: I would want it to be.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how is he?

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Speaker 12: Look, he's spent most of yesterday and surgery. He's got

732
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Speaker 12: serious injuries to his head and his shoulder, and I'm

733
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Speaker 12: looking really forward to gain seeing him and his family

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Speaker 12: this morning.

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Speaker 6: In the way.

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Speaker 3: Kto the thing that bugged me the whole time is

737
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Speaker 3: this community thing whereby somehow this guy's a hero, or

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Speaker 3: he's allowed to do what he wants to do, or

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Speaker 3: I don't understand that. Do you deal with that? Is

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Speaker 3: that common in rural New Zealand?

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Speaker 12: You mean in respect of mister Phillips. Yeah, he's not

742
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Speaker 12: a hero.

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Speaker 3: No, I know that, I know that, But people defend him.

744
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Speaker 3: They still defend him to this day.

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Speaker 12: Oh sure, Look, look you know there's I'm sure there

746
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Speaker 12: are some in the community who may defend him. Look,

747
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Speaker 12: we just dire with the situation that we need to

748
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Speaker 12: in a way that the community and the public would

749
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Speaker 12: expect us to. And our priority has always been the

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Speaker 12: safer rest of mister Phillips in the same recovery of

751
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Speaker 12: the children, I respective of what people's views may be,

752
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Speaker 12: whether that's himself or other people in the community. So

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Speaker 12: we just get on with the job. Very proud of

754
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Speaker 12: myselff who's done a remarkable job. And I'm just very

755
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Speaker 12: very relieved.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your time. Richard Chambers Police Commissioner, Mark Mitchell, Police

757
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Speaker 3: Minister with a shortly meantime at thirteen minutes past seven.

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Speaker 3: The industrial landscape, more strike action possible by teachers. Secondary

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Speaker 3: teacher has been off at two point five and two

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Speaker 3: point one over two years. Union once that rejected meantime

761
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Speaker 3: Primary two point seven and four point one de mite

762
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Speaker 3: finding warnings there's no more money, Sir Brian Roaches, the

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Speaker 3: Public Services Commissioner, and he's.

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Speaker 1: With us morning, good morningly.

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Speaker 3: On a scale of one to ten, ten you want

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Speaker 3: to ring somebody's neck. What's your level of frustration over this?

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Speaker 16: Definitely around eight to nine, because I think it's a

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Speaker 16: genuine lost opportunity to get a good outcome on a

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Speaker 16: timely basis that benefits teachers.

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Speaker 3: Primary, particularly four point one. What's the problem?

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Speaker 16: That's a problem. That's a question you really put to them.

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Speaker 16: We thought really hard about this. We were always wanting

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Speaker 16: this round to go as quickly and as efficiently as possible.

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Speaker 16: I think it's a very credible offer, it's very fair,

775
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Speaker 16: and it reflects since trade offs who've had to make.

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Speaker 16: So the fact that they've rejected it, I just it's

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Speaker 16: illogical to me.

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Speaker 3: I know there are differences between jobs. I get that,

779
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Speaker 3: but the secondary at two point one versus primary at

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Speaker 3: four point one, why is there a difference and is

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Speaker 3: that potentially an issue?

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Speaker 15: No?

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Speaker 16: Those one is over one year, the other one is.

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Speaker 6: Over the period of the term.

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Speaker 16: So it's it is very fair and equitable between all

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Speaker 16: teachers across the whole sector. And something we did. We

787
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Speaker 16: decided last week to send a common letter to all

788
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Speaker 16: three of them, as I said earlier, because we are

789
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Speaker 16: already determined to stop the disruption to the children, the students,

790
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Speaker 16: the parents and the teachers. And I'm very surprised that

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Speaker 16: they've rejected it out of hand.

792
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Speaker 3: From their point of view, is this about money or

793
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Speaker 3: other stuff?

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Speaker 16: They say it's about other stuff, but that's a mystery.

795
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Speaker 16: I think ultimately it's about the headline number. I think

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Speaker 16: the headline.

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Speaker 6: Number is very good.

798
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Speaker 16: There's been a significant investment put into education this year

799
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Speaker 16: by the government through the budget. We've done a lot

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Speaker 16: of things including paying this teacher's registration for each individual.

801
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Speaker 16: These things all demonstrate goodwill and commitment to the public

802
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Speaker 16: education system.

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Speaker 3: The callback days explain what they are and is that

804
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Speaker 3: part of the issue.

805
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Speaker 16: I understand, it's the issue that I haven't heard that

806
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Speaker 16: for me say look, I'll just talk you through so

807
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 16: that the callback days, basically, the teachers get paid fifty

808
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 16: two weeks a year, twelve weeks of which is non

809
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Speaker 16: contact time. So what we're saying is actually, we currently

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Speaker 16: have the ability to call you back for more to

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Speaker 16: ten days. We're looking at another ten days. They are

812
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Speaker 16: getting paid for this. It's not that we're depriving them

813
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Speaker 16: of anything. We're just asking them to be available for

814
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Speaker 16: basically time when the students aren't at school for development

815
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Speaker 16: career development. It is entirely reasonable. We are not shorthanding

816
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Speaker 16: anyone here or short changing.

817
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: So what's their problem They don't want a call back

818
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Speaker 3: day no matter what you pay them, or they want

819
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Speaker 3: more to be paid for a callback day.

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Speaker 16: It would seem I'm genuinely confused. I'm not avoiding the question.

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Speaker 16: We already pay them, we have the ability, and we're

822
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Speaker 16: asking for them to make themselves available. I think it

823
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Speaker 16: is entirely reasonable as somebody who funds them, that we

824
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Speaker 16: have some determination over the twelve weeks non contact.

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Speaker 3: How far apart are you in do you think?

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Speaker 17: Well?

827
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Speaker 16: I didn't think we were far apart at all. I

828
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Speaker 16: just think there has to be other issues which have

829
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Speaker 16: not been brought to my attention. We're not trying to

830
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Speaker 16: be stupid here, We're trying to find an efficient way through.

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Speaker 16: It is a new bargaining ground.

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Speaker 6: It was always going to be difficult.

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Speaker 16: I'm just really disappointed at where we've ended up because

834
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Speaker 16: I think there are the lost opportunity for the teachers.

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Speaker 3: And also, in your gut, how much of this is

836
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Speaker 3: about the unions as opposed to your average teacher. If

837
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Speaker 3: you rounded ten of them up and ask them and

838
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Speaker 3: talk to them, is this a union issue or a

839
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Speaker 3: genuine teacher issue and all teachers are behind the union?

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Speaker 1: I have my.

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Speaker 16: Doubts actually on that, Mic. I think most teachers just

842
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Speaker 16: want to be in the classroom. They want some certainty

843
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Speaker 16: and they want some reward.

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Speaker 3: That right, I appreciate it very much. Brian Rose, who

845
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Speaker 3: is the Public Service Commissioner. Speaking of wages, I'll come

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Speaker 3: Just before I come to the wages and the wages

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Speaker 3: for everybody. By the way, our economy in general, international

852
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Speaker 3: comparisons were made yesterday and it's not particularly good reading,

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Speaker 3: but be that as it may. That's what happens when

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Speaker 3: you take an economy. Let me come back to that

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Speaker 3: on education, though, you know, I'm a fan of the

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Speaker 3: charter schools, not as a magic bullet or a silver

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Speaker 3: bullet or anything like that, but just as an alternative.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this. So Kaikoe Northern College, they're looking to

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Speaker 3: become a charter school, first state school to public publicly

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Speaker 3: reveal their doing so. The principal, Dwayne Allen, formerly a

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Speaker 3: strong opponent of charter schools, but after five years in charge,

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Speaker 3: he saw a need to try a different approach. We've

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Speaker 3: hard to try and come up with innovative solutions within

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Speaker 3: the current system, and we haven't been able to get

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Speaker 3: the direction that we'd like to. So it's a genuine

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Speaker 3: investigation and a step into an alternative that we think

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Speaker 3: could be quite powerful. It's encouraging, isn't it? Seven twenty one.

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890
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891
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Speaker 3: fall out if you get it wrong when it comes

892
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Speaker 3: to income growth, We're one of the worst in the

893
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Speaker 3: world and sorry to tell you this. In the past

894
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Speaker 3: decade we were twenty five out of forty three countries.

895
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Speaker 3: That's bad enough, But in the past couple of years

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Speaker 3: we learned yesterday post COVID the induced recession of all

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Speaker 3: robertson adorn the usual suspects. We're now thirty seven thirty

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Speaker 3: seven out of forty three. Why because when an economy

899
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Speaker 3: goes backwards, there are lots of people looking for work,

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Speaker 3: but not a lot of work to do. So you

901
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Speaker 3: don't have to pay people as much as you might

902
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Speaker 3: have if you couldn't find anyone to do the job,

903
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Speaker 3: because they are all gamefully employed. Side note, by the way,

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905
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Speaker 3: He's currently offering interns who want to deal with AI

906
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Speaker 3: and trading fifty three thousand dollars a month a month.

907
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Speaker 3: That's because the world can't get enough excuse me tech geeks,

908
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Speaker 3: and the ones who are good are offered a fortune.

909
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: It's good old fashioned supply and demand. Basically, the banks

910
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Speaker 3: call it capacity in the economy. When you have capacity,

911
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Speaker 3: you don't have a lot of jobs about the place.

912
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Speaker 3: You can if you're so desire artificially paper people more.

913
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Speaker 3: I mean in Britain, for example, their wage growth remarkable

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Speaker 3: as well, in excess of five percent, which is well

915
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Speaker 3: above inflation. So people, at least in theory, are getting ahead.

916
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Speaker 3: And you might say, well, based on those figures, my word,

917
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Speaker 3: Britain is doing well, except they're not because they paid

918
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Speaker 3: the public service masses more money than they didn't have,

919
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Speaker 3: and hence they're now in basically little short of a

920
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Speaker 3: fiscal crisis, which is why you see teachers, nurses and

921
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Speaker 3: doctors here on strike, because they're being offered pay rises

922
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Speaker 3: below inflation. But then when the people writing the checks

923
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Speaker 3: have less than no money, you might be might be

924
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Speaker 3: worth asking why that is, And the answer is because

925
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Speaker 3: we screwed the economy, printed the money, blew the budget,

926
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Speaker 3: and all the previous government could offer by way of

927
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Speaker 3: rationale was the well used line we saved lives, and

928
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Speaker 3: even that, according to the COVID inquiry, is now highly debatable. Anyway,

929
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Speaker 3: years on wage growth some of the worst in the world,

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Speaker 3: brought about entirely by making simple fundamental economic mistakes. Asking

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Speaker 3: much the more you understand the remuneration of teachers, the

932
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Speaker 3: more frustrated disappointed you get, well spoken Brian Roche, Mike,

933
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Speaker 3: surely it's time in the public started getting genuinely angry

934
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Speaker 3: with teachers in the union. It's ridiculous, Mike, one hundred

935
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Speaker 3: and ten k for forty weeks worth. I'll take that.

936
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Speaker 3: It's not all one hundred and ten but you know,

937
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Speaker 3: eventually the numbers don't lie, and eventually you come to

938
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Speaker 3: the conclusion. Do you not that it's actually not bad money?

939
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Speaker 3: And what are you and the job for the personal

940
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Speaker 3: satisfaction of growing young minds? Or is it just an

941
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Speaker 3: endless battle to get more and more and more importantly

942
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Speaker 3: for me, I reckon, most of the teachers are over it,

943
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Speaker 3: and this is a union based thing, and I think

944
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Speaker 3: that in there as part of the problem. Let's return

945
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Speaker 3: to the Phillips case. In a couple of moments, the

946
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Speaker 3: Police Minister Mark Mitchell is with us next News Talk said.

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953
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954
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Speaker 3: Phillip's dead, of course, the officer remains in the hospital,

955
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Speaker 3: the children recovered. So what happens now. Mark Mitchell's the

956
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Speaker 3: police minister and as well as Marke good morning.

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Speaker 18: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 3: So your thoughts on yesterday and more broadly, your thoughts

959
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Speaker 3: on the last four years.

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Speaker 18: Well, I mean, obviously an awful situation to everyone involved.

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Speaker 18: We've got a police officer that was critically injured thankfully

962
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Speaker 18: has come through a surgeries yesterday quite well. Myself and

963
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Speaker 18: the Commissioner are driving down there shortly to go him

964
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Speaker 18: and his family. You know, I think everyone could see, Mike,

965
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Speaker 18: just how difficult the situation was for police to deal with.

966
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Speaker 18: It's almost the worst case scenario when you've got a

967
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Speaker 18: father with three children deep in the bush with firearms,

968
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Speaker 18: high powered.

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Speaker 1: Firearms, unpredictable and likely to use them.

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Speaker 18: And so you know, in some ways though, it was

971
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Speaker 18: an absolute tragedy yesterday. Obviously, recovering the children and having

972
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Speaker 18: them now safely and I rang a tmricky and extended

973
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Speaker 18: family care, you know, is a good thing.

974
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Speaker 3: Did it need to go as long as it did?

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Speaker 18: Well, like I said, it was you look at the

976
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Speaker 18: complexity of the situation they're dealing with. I've been the

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Speaker 18: policemanister now for over eighteen months. I've spoken with and

978
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Speaker 18: visited several of the officers that have been on prolonged operations,

979
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Speaker 18: that have been investigating and have been working hard to

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Speaker 18: try and recover those children safely, and they were confronted

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Speaker 18: with almost an impossible situation. We've got a very unpredictable,

982
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Speaker 18: you know, father with high powered firearms, likely to use them,

983
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Speaker 18: and they don't want to create a tragedy.

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Speaker 1: And that is all of us.

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Speaker 18: I think every key we would fear, certainly my fear

986
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Speaker 18: as the minister, you know, losing those children. You know,

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Speaker 18: the focus was always on the safe recovery of the

988
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Speaker 18: children and it was just a very very difficult situation

989
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 18: for them to deal with. They three resources, edit, they

990
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Speaker 18: were relentless in the way that they approached it and

991
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Speaker 18: trying to recover them. But always they understand that it

992
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Speaker 18: was a very dangerous situation to go into and it

993
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Speaker 18: was and they were going to try and avoid it

994
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Speaker 18: all costs, putting those children in harm's way.

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Speaker 3: Did you have intel on that, did you have a

996
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Speaker 3: genuine knowledge based belief that he was capable of harming

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Speaker 3: his own children.

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Speaker 18: Well, I don't know, Abe, I can't answer that I

999
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Speaker 18: was in the detail in terms of the riskst analysis

1000
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Speaker 18: that would have been done around him and whether or

1001
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Speaker 18: not he was capable of harming his own children. I

1002
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Speaker 18: do know this that he is the suspect for some

1003
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Speaker 18: serious violent offending over the period that he's had them,

1004
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Speaker 18: and he's included those children in that offending, and no

1005
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 18: responsible father would ever put their children in harm's way,

1006
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Speaker 18: and he did that.

1007
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Speaker 3: Because what I'm trying to suppose her to a degree

1008
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 3: doesn't really matter now. But what I'm trying to work

1009
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: out is, did you guys or did the police know

1010
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Speaker 3: ish where he was and if they'd worked a bit

1011
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: harder they could have found him sooner or was that

1012
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Speaker 3: not really the emphasis? The emphasis was we don't want

1013
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 3: the katan.

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Speaker 18: The emphasis we don't want the kids armed. And so,

1015
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Speaker 18: you know, the police are very good, they're very efficient,

1016
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Speaker 18: they've got lots of tools, they've got very deep capability,

1017
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Speaker 18: they can find people. But it's a big complicating factor

1018
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 18: when you've got young children in a situation with high

1019
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 18: powered firearms and a very unpredictable father and not knowing

1020
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Speaker 18: you know, exactly how he's going to react and respond.

1021
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 18: That was definitely my fears as police minister, without a doubt,

1022
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Speaker 18: averting a tragedy. Unfortunately, mister Phillips has been killed. He's

1023
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Speaker 18: been killed because he used he showed that he would

1024
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 18: use those firearms and we now have a police officer

1025
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Speaker 18: that's critically injured Line in the hospital because you know,

1026
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Speaker 18: Phillips tried to kill him.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of that, I asked Chambers, that's the same question

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Speaker 3: that I'm interested in your view. Why does an officer

1029
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Speaker 3: go out in remote New Zealand in these specific circumstances

1030
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Speaker 3: knowing that a burglary chances are it's you know who,

1031
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Speaker 3: Why is he out there by himself with back up coming?

1032
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: I know, but he was still out there by himself.

1033
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Speaker 18: Well, that is operational. I do leave the commissioner to

1034
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Speaker 18: speak with that. But why do police officers take risk?

1035
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Speaker 18: Because because they take their jobs very seriously and they're

1036
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Speaker 18: willing to put themselves at risk to protect the communities

1037
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Speaker 18: that they serve. And I'm extremely proud of them. The

1038
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Speaker 18: officers that responded to that, in my viewer, are very

1039
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Speaker 18: courageous and the way that they dealt with it, you know,

1040
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Speaker 18: And that is the nature of policing. And I get

1041
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Speaker 18: to see and hear about tens of thousands of positive

1042
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Speaker 18: actions that our police officers take every week in the

1043
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Speaker 18: service and the protection of the communities that they serve.

1044
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Speaker 18: So you know, from what I understand talking with the commissioner,

1045
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Speaker 18: there were more than there was more than one police

1046
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Speaker 18: officer there, and obviously you can see that there was

1047
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Speaker 18: a very firm, direct and immediate response from police in

1048
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Speaker 18: terms of dealing with that threat against the officer that

1049
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Speaker 18: had already been shot.

1050
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Speaker 3: The Obviously there are questions out of all of this,

1051
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Speaker 3: and there are debriefs, and I get all of that,

1052
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Speaker 3: But beyond the standard, does this present a bunch of

1053
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 3: unusual questions that might provide some unusual answers and the

1054
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Speaker 3: police need to be looking at the way they do things.

1055
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Speaker 3: Or are you comfortab Ball as you sit here talking

1056
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Speaker 3: to me this morning that things have gone as well

1057
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Speaker 3: as they could have.

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Speaker 18: I'm very comfortable since I've become police Minister that they

1059
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Speaker 18: have tried everything and they've done all that they could

1060
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Speaker 18: to try and recover those children safely. Like any good organization,

1061
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Speaker 18: the police are constantly looking for improvement. They will review

1062
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Speaker 18: everything that's happened. There will be significant after action reviews.

1063
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Speaker 18: I know how the police operate. Of course, there's some

1064
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Speaker 18: inquiries that are immediately spark there'll be an eternal police inquiry,

1065
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Speaker 18: there'll be an IBC inquiry, and it's a coroner's case

1066
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Speaker 18: as well. But am I comfortable that the police have

1067
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Speaker 18: absolutely done everything that they could, that they have made

1068
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Speaker 18: sure that at the center of everything that they've done

1069
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Speaker 18: and the decisions that they've made have put the children

1070
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Speaker 18: in their safety at the heart of that. And I

1071
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Speaker 18: think we all saw in the last twenty four hours

1072
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Speaker 18: it all highlighted just how difficult the situation was for

1073
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Speaker 18: police to manage.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm drawing too many dot joining

1075
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Speaker 3: too many dots here, but you happen to be in

1076
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Speaker 3: Melbourne with Chambers at a funeral of a couple of

1077
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Speaker 3: slain police officers, or yet a number and Nutter that's

1078
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Speaker 3: still looking for in Victoria. Is there something going on

1079
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Speaker 3: here where we are seeing more and more men with

1080
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Speaker 3: guns going rogue and it's a thing.

1081
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Speaker 18: So that's something that will be to I have a

1082
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Speaker 18: Police Council meeting in Canberra early next month. That's something

1083
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Speaker 18: that's on the agenda to discuss. Obviously, the situation in

1084
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Speaker 18: Victoria is tragic.

1085
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Speaker 3: We're at both the.

1086
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Speaker 18: Commissioner and I are at the service of Neil Thompson,

1087
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Speaker 18: a thirty nine year veteran that was literally days away

1088
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Speaker 18: from retiring and was killed by a person that caused

1089
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Speaker 18: himself a sovereign citizen. So you know, there's still a

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Speaker 18: large police operation of men hunt underway there to try

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Speaker 18: and find him. But you know, the issue that you

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Speaker 18: raised is something that we'll be talking about further.

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Speaker 3: Without a doubt. Do you have a view on the community,

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Speaker 3: because when there's the local community here, I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: the number of people who defended this guy, and men

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Speaker 3: in the country go bush with guns and they take

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Speaker 3: their kids and that's just life. And we in the

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Speaker 3: city don't have a clue what's going on. And that's

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Speaker 3: still that that view still pervades. Does that abnormal?

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Speaker 18: Well, you and I fathers and I don't think that

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Speaker 18: you or I would take our children away from their

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Speaker 18: broader support networks, away from their friends, family, put them

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Speaker 18: and take them out with serious violent offending, put them

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Speaker 18: at harms in harm's way, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, and shoot police officers.

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Speaker 18: So you know, I don't really understand why people are

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Speaker 18: holding this guy up as a as a pillar of

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Speaker 18: society and someone that should be admired. A quick complete opposite.

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Speaker 18: He's shot one of our police officers. Probably very very

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Speaker 18: lucky that police officer alive and that police officers out

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00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 18: there putting himself in harm's way to protect the community

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Speaker 18: that he serves.

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Speaker 3: All right, mate, I'll let you get on with you day.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it very much. Make mature police minister with us

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Speaker 3: the morning. One legal question for you after the break

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Speaker 3: seven forty five.

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Speaker 2: Love Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Now Advay News.

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Speaker 3: Talks at Me, Mike, you should read out some of

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Speaker 3: the comments on read it. Ninety nine percent of proton

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Speaker 3: for describe him as a model father and the police

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00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 3: has beenful of bastards. The thing I'll always remember about

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00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 3: this particular case is my wife, when she was doing

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00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: Kate Hawksby, when she was doing early Edition at the

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00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: very start of this story said there's something deeply wrong

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Speaker 3: here and this isn't going to necessarily end well, which

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00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: I thought was relatively obvious and not slightly astute observation.

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Speaker 3: And the hate she got from people who accused her

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Speaker 3: of being from you know, urban New Zealand. Didn't have

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00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: a clue how life worked. These blokes wander off into

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00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: the bush where their kids all the time. Everyone goes

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00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 3: bush every weekend. Guns are fun, everyone's got guns. Don't

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Speaker 3: talk to us from Auckland about how we live our lives.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was a shock. I just couldn't believe

1135
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 3: the amount of you know, it wasn't just an opinion,

1136
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 3: it was just vitriol. And so ultimately she of course

1137
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 3: proven was proven sadly to be correct. The simple question

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00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: I have, and there's just open needed question if someone

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00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 3: with a legal mind has the answer. Given this is

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Speaker 3: a court case and dealt with the looking after of kids,

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Speaker 3: why is o rung A Tomriiki involved? Does oh rung

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00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: A Tomriki automatically get involved if, for example, the family

1143
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: don't want them to be so, In other words, presumably

1144
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 3: something's happened. The extraordinary thing about this is the time

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00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 3: or length of time. But under normal circumstances, when there's

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00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: a breach and mum and dad have been fighting over

1147
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: the kids and there's a breach, the kids go back

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Speaker 3: to the side that won the court case. Is that

1149
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Speaker 3: still the same today? Or do is there a time

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Speaker 3: thing where I rung a tamariki get involved or have

1151
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Speaker 3: to get involved or the lawyer says they must get involved.

1152
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: Obviously the family say we want help, they will. But

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00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 3: if the family simply say right, we've got a kids

1154
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Speaker 3: back leat us alone, let us get on with our lives.

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Speaker 3: Is that the end of it as far as the

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Speaker 3: state's concerned. Where does the law sit with that? If

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Speaker 3: you can let me know that, it'll be good.

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Speaker 2: Tend away the Mike Asking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate

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Speaker 2: news top.

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Speaker 3: Shiving away from it. Got new rental down to this morning,

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Speaker 3: good news for the renter drop across the board. The

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Speaker 3: national average down to six twenty eight, lowest since September

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Speaker 3: of twenty three, Wellington down almost twelve percent, Aukland down

1164
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Speaker 3: two point three. Listings are up sixteen percent year on year.

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Speaker 3: Mike Atkinson is managing director of the Spire Property as

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Speaker 3: well as Mike Morning, Good Morning. These monthly numbers, especially

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Speaker 3: in a place like Wellington, are they noise or we

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Speaker 3: actually got some sort of trend going on here on

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Speaker 3: a monthly basis?

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Speaker 7: I think we do actually have a bit of a

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Speaker 7: trend happening in particular in Wellington. You know, they're facing

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Speaker 7: all the same economic headwinds that the whole country is facing,

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Speaker 7: but some more specific ones as well, with all the

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Speaker 7: public service jobs that have gone nine five hundred jobs

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Speaker 7: have gone there in the last two years, and Nationals

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Speaker 7: cutting back on all the consultants and contractors of slash

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Speaker 7: spending thereby one hundred and seventy five million. So that's

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Speaker 7: a lot of people that sort of don't need to

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Speaker 7: be living in the Wellington City area anymore.

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Speaker 3: So if there's a fall is the bottom.

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Speaker 7: I think in the Auckland market, we've seen the listings

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Speaker 7: starting to come back down, so I think we may

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Speaker 7: be getting close to the bottom at the moment. Everything

1184
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Speaker 7: always picks up a bit in the summer months, so

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Speaker 7: there'll be some temporary release there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the sixty seven hundred listings for the month of August,

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Speaker 3: where do they all come from?

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Speaker 7: Oh, that's just people that aren't able to find a

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Speaker 7: tenant basically, So when the properties stay online, that number

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Speaker 7: goes up.

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Speaker 3: So it's really more listings. It's not suddenly there's a

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Speaker 3: whole bunch of houses suddenly coming to the market.

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Speaker 7: Oh well, I do think there is an increase in

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Speaker 7: actual overall supply. You know, you see all this townhouse

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Speaker 7: developments happening right across the country over the last two

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Speaker 7: or three years, and they are coming onto the market.

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Speaker 7: So it's a combination of both.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they're better deals out there. I mean, what's your

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Speaker 3: advice to rent is? I mean, good for rent is

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Speaker 3: not so good for landlords?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean my advice to tenants is that rents

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Speaker 7: are definitely negotiable at the moment. And my advice to

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Speaker 7: landlords is to work with the tenants that you do

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Speaker 7: have and really value them. So a commercial tenant, you know,

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Speaker 7: you don't just replace a tenant if you have a

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Speaker 7: minus agreement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right, my good insight precire at micat

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Speaker 3: cans Aspire, property managing director five minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 3: So get to the red meat numbers, and I want

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Speaker 3: to because that's very good news. Strong European demand for

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Speaker 3: the sheep. The sheep at eight hundred and sixty four

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Speaker 3: million dollars for July. These are the native numbers came

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Speaker 3: out yesterday. Export values and this is a cease overall

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00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: the amount of meat was shipping around the world is

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00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: down a smage, not a lot, bit a bit, but

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00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: the value is up. So sheep meat up nineteen percent. Volume,

1217
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Speaker 3: for example, grew thirty four percent into Europe, so that's

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Speaker 3: encouraging export values higher across all your major markets. So

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Speaker 3: we're getting more banged for buck. America largest overall destination

1220
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: up eleven percent, China up seventeen percent, the UK up

1221
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Speaker 3: forty nine percent, Taiwan up fifty one percent, Netherlands up

1222
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: thirty nine percent, So they're buying, they're buying more and

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Speaker 3: they're paying more. Sheep meat value up twenty one percent,

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Speaker 3: and if you add beef, which is the value up

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Speaker 3: seventeen percent between the two of them, that's in excess

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Speaker 3: of seven one hundred million dollars worth of business. Very

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Speaker 3: interesting article are read from Australia. They're doing gang or

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Speaker 3: they're going gangbusters beef wise into the States Americans. So

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Speaker 3: the herd size in America is that historic lows, drought,

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Speaker 3: cost of raising cattle, et cetera. That's not changing, nor

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00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: is their desire to eat beef. They will not be

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Speaker 3: shifted off beef no matter what the cost. Now the

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00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: tariffs are killing them the two biggest markets for beef

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00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: in America are Australia and Brazil. We're in there, but

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Speaker 3: the big ones are Australia and Brazil. What's Brazil got

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00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: fifty percent tariffs? The price of beef is through the roof.

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00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: So they just had a long weekend, labor weekend. What

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00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 3: are they buying? The buying burgers for the barbecue, for

1239
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: the grille, and they're paying more, so it's real, it's material.

1240
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: They gang will hold on Trump, he said the cost

1241
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: of everything's going to come down.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: It's going up. And because they can't give up beef,

1244
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: because they're hooked on it, they will pay whatever. So

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00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 3: who's the winner, US, Australia and Brazil. Irony of ironies.

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00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: How about a bit of motivation? If I'm not enough,

1247
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: well maybe it's a counter to me. Anyway, more on that.

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Speaker 3: Shortly after the news, which is next.

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Speaker 2: The news, the news makers the mic asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 3: Let's meet James Laughlin, ed Mice, change your life, James

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Speaker 3: the seven time world champion drummer. I'll get to the

1254
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Speaker 3: drumming partner moment, a coach to top CEOs and the

1255
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: high performance leadership trainer and speaker. He also the mental

1256
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: skills coach for the Canterary Rugby people. This book is

1257
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: called Habits for High Performers. It's number one on the

1258
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: book Scandalist Comes, recommended by somebody called Sir John Key

1259
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Speaker 3: and Sam Whitelocke. Anyway, James Lachlan is well us, James,

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Speaker 3: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Top of the mining mate, gret to speak to you.

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Speaker 6: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well. Indeed you'd be very happy with the

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00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: Canterary performance at the weekend. And how long do you

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00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: think they'll hold the rnfully shield?

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Speaker 7: Long?

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Speaker 6: Mat continue? That's all I have to say.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a in Canterbury Rugby in general that

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01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: they keep on keeping on and performing at the highest

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01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 3: level year in, year out, no matter who happens to

1271
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 3: be there at the time. How does that work?

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Speaker 6: Look?

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Speaker 17: I think the leadership goes deep there, and it's been

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Speaker 17: probably decades in the making.

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Speaker 6: It said.

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01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 17: It's no one secret sauce, but there's something at Rugby

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01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 17: Park there when you walk in a pretty special place.

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01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 17: And yes, certainly I think the leadership runs very deep.

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01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 3: Okay, and so where do they or how do you

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01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: fit into that equation?

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Speaker 17: Then yes, I offer mental skills for the players and

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01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 17: for the management, and I work with them as a team.

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01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 17: Also work within the individually number of the old blacks

1284
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 17: as well, so working on the top two inches, performing

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 17: under pressure.

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Speaker 3: The thing I like about you immediately is you don't

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01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: believe in work life balance. What do you believe in?

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01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's no such thing as work life plants. If

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01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 17: people are chasing it, it's madness. I believe in counterbalance,

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Speaker 17: that idea that you know you've got to work your

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01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 17: butt off, work towards goals and the media, sixty seventy

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Speaker 17: hour week, and then realize, okay, there's other things that

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Speaker 17: are a high priority. What are they and turn your

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01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 17: focus to those. So you're constantly in counterbalance.

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Speaker 3: So how do you implement counterbalance in your life? I mean,

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Speaker 3: what are you saying? Because normally I'm assuming and working

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Speaker 3: really hard. It's the work that you're working hard at

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Speaker 3: in general.

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Speaker 17: Perc Look, I hear a lot make that. People say

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Speaker 17: I'm busy, I'm really busy, And you know, I hear

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Speaker 17: it from politicians, I hear it from leaders. I hear

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Speaker 17: it from everyday people. But I would say most people

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Speaker 17: don't have a busy problem, they have a priority problem.

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Speaker 17: And getting clear on your priorities.

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Speaker 6: You know what is that? Family?

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Speaker 17: Is it, fitness, finances, work, Get clear on what order

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Speaker 17: they are in and that will help you to counterbalance.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so are these, by the way, in just in

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Speaker 3: general terms, does this this a gift or is this

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Speaker 3: learned and can be learned by anybody.

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Speaker 17: High performance is not a birthrate, it's it's a habit.

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Speaker 17: So what separates high performers from everyone else is not hustle,

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Speaker 17: it's not luck, it's simply habits.

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Speaker 3: What is a high performer? I mean, so how do

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Speaker 3: you know you are one or that person over there

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Speaker 3: is one?

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Speaker 6: I mean apart from the Auchius Yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 17: First thing, assistently exceeding norms, So not just doing it once,

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Speaker 17: but doing it multiple times. Well, so, whether it's you know,

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Speaker 17: for me it was drumming as a kid, winning the

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Speaker 17: World championships once, that was good, but let's win a

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Speaker 17: multiple times. Consistently exceed the norms in your industry or

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Speaker 17: in your life whilst maintaining healthy relationships and well being.

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Speaker 17: That last bit is crucial.

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Speaker 3: Okay? Is that still the same as it was in

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Speaker 3: the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, because our view of

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Speaker 3: life and work has changed dramatically in that period of time,

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Speaker 3: hasn't it hugely?

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Speaker 17: And I would say back in the eighties and nineties,

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Speaker 17: et cetera, it was about when at all costs, high

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Speaker 17: performance is simply winning. But you and I both know

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Speaker 17: there's a significant cost to that. I believe people can

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Speaker 17: achieve on field whilst looking after themselves and their lives

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Speaker 17: off field.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that drumming I referenced, this was pipe band drumming,

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Speaker 3: wasn't It wasn't like you know, you're backing up Phil Collins.

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Speaker 3: Will sit next to Phil Collins on the drums.

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Speaker 17: Now Phil Collins comes to us pipe band drummers for

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Speaker 17: technique help. But no, I certainly wasn't.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't a rock drummer. I was wearing a kilt net.

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Speaker 3: So who were you world champion with? I mean, we're

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Speaker 3: where did that all start?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 17: So I was a world solo juvenile champion as a

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Speaker 17: young thirteen year old and fourteen year old again, and

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Speaker 17: then headed to Vancouver, Canada and won it there five times.

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Speaker 17: With the Simon Fraser University band and then came to

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Speaker 17: New Zealand to help a band down in christ Church

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Speaker 17: become the very first and still the only world champions

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Speaker 17: from New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: So you can teach greatness at that level. And in

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Speaker 3: other words to Car, I've got a drum kit in

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Speaker 3: my barn and the country and it's now mine based

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Speaker 3: on the fact that I bought it for my child

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Speaker 3: who used it twice. But I can't drum. I cannot

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Speaker 3: do it. Could you teach me one?

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Speaker 6: It's a very teachable skill. I promise you make right.

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Speaker 3: So the foot, you know, the boom, so all of that,

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Speaker 3: that coordination thing can be done.

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Speaker 6: We've all got it.

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Speaker 17: If you have a heartbeat and you're able to walk,

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Speaker 17: you can be a drummer.

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Speaker 3: Well, some people question the habig thing. That could be

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Speaker 3: my problem. The seven the seven principles, So you get

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Speaker 3: ridically clear. You sort of answered that before. So that's prioritization,

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Speaker 3: right yep. So that's knowing what you want, how to

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Speaker 3: do it and balancing it up.

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Speaker 6: That's it. Most people find it difficult.

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Speaker 3: Okay, supercharge your belief systems? What's that mean?

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Speaker 17: So Mike, you are full of BS belief systems. I'm

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Speaker 17: going to ask you a question. What's the first thing?

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Speaker 17: First two or three things that come to mind when

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Speaker 17: you think of an Irishman?

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Speaker 3: Humor, drink and is that not right? I think, I

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Speaker 3: think of greenness, I think of guinness and.

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Speaker 17: Human There we go good on a great rugby team,

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Speaker 17: of course. So what we're looking at there is your BS,

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Speaker 17: your belief systems, and it doesn't make them right, doesn't

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Speaker 17: make them wrong. But those things that the subconscious mind.

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Speaker 17: High performers know that they believe certain things around failure,

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Speaker 17: they believe certain things around money, success, the government, and

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Speaker 17: these things. We've got to rewire them to help us

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Speaker 17: achieve our goals.

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Speaker 3: Is this the same with men and women?

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Speaker 17: Well, I'd set us some global beliefs. Let's take money.

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Speaker 17: Lots of us would believe money doesn't grow on trees.

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Speaker 6: Certainly.

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Speaker 17: I grew up in a small working class town and

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Speaker 17: I believe it didn't grow on trees. So I would

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Speaker 17: say there are global beliefs that transcend genders for sure.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And I'll come back on the age thing in

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Speaker 3: just a moment, And I've got three through seven for

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Speaker 3: you shortly. James Laughlin more in a Moment. Habits for

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Speaker 3: higher Performers thirteen past eight, The.

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Speaker 2: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It Be News Talks, It Be sixteen past eight. James

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Speaker 3: Loughlin's I guess habits for high performers. James, I'm getting

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Speaker 3: the heat here. I disagree with this guy. You need

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Speaker 3: internal rhythm to be a really good drummer, which is

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01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: innate and can't be taught. You'll never make it. That's

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01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 3: what Sylvia says. You say what.

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Speaker 6: Sylvia is wrong, as simple as that.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Sylvia, You're wrong. Right Number three? Lead your life

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Speaker 3: on purpose? What does that mean?

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Speaker 6: You know what?

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Speaker 17: Do work that matters? You know, not everyone's going to

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01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 17: be a Mandela or a Mother terrasa. But do work

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01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 17: actually matters? And we spend a lot of time working

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01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 17: and following our passion. So do stuff that actually brings

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Speaker 17: you Joe and makes a difference to others. And when

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Speaker 17: I look at high performers over the long term, they

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Speaker 17: have purpose interweaved into what they do.

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Speaker 3: Would you recommend somebody leave their work if they were

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Speaker 3: just doing it for the sake of doing it or

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Speaker 3: doing it for the money, and you asked them the question,

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Speaker 3: do you thoroughly enjoy this?

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Speaker 17: And I said no, if you're miserable, don't hang around.

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Speaker 17: I mean, you've got to put a foot on the table.

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Speaker 17: So don't be just quitting today after hearing this. But

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Speaker 17: you know what, your life is short, but you spend

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Speaker 17: a lot a lot of that time at work, So

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Speaker 17: get clear on what brings you joy. And I went

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Speaker 17: from teaching drums loving drums at a point where I

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Speaker 17: was burnt out and I wasn't doing high performance very

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Speaker 17: well because well being and relationships weren't in the position

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Speaker 17: they should be. So I made some changes. It took

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Speaker 17: some time, Mike, but it made a big difference.

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Speaker 3: Multiply your motivation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so success is an inside job.

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Speaker 17: And I hear people say, look, don't talk to me

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Speaker 17: till I've had my coffee, and I'm saying, that sucks.

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Speaker 17: Why don't you just drink the coffee because you love it?

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Speaker 6: Or gems, I need to go for a smoke.

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Speaker 17: I need to need to go and calm down after

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01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 17: that result, Well, why don't you just enjoy the cigarette

1437
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 17: because you love the cigarette? Hopefully you know you can quit,

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 17: but you know why do we need to rely on

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01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 17: external things. Some people are really motivated extrinsically, Mike. It's

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Speaker 17: the money, status, power, fame. Those people that have the

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Speaker 17: Air New Zealand luggage tag on their laptop bag instead

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Speaker 17: of on their luggage bag. That always tells me there's

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Speaker 17: a little bit of extrinsic motivation for them.

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Speaker 3: Do the work? Is that literal advice?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 17: So discipline your inner domain if you want to dominate

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01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 17: the outer domain.

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Speaker 6: So get to work.

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Speaker 17: You know, these people go to the gym and at

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Speaker 17: four am they take a photo of themselves at the

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Speaker 17: gym and tell the world. I truly believe high performers

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Speaker 17: do the work in the dark so they can shine

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Speaker 17: in the light.

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Speaker 3: So you're a high performer who taught you?

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Speaker 6: It's interesting?

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Speaker 17: So I look back and I would say my head master,

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01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 17: mister Pollock, was the biggest influence. He's said what I'd

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Speaker 17: call a possibilitarian. I was a little upstart at school

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Speaker 17: and he said, James, a weeked attention or a set

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Speaker 17: of drumsticks. And I thought I was going to be

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Speaker 17: Ringo star Mic. Instead I was wearing a skirt and playing.

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Speaker 6: With the bag by itself.

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Speaker 17: Not quite the same he was the biggest influence.

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Speaker 3: So those are the people in your life that you need.

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01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 3: You may not have the principle, but there's somebody in

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Speaker 3: there who sees something in you, or gives you an opportunity,

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Speaker 3: or does something that you may not realize at the time.

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Speaker 3: Is a bit more profound than what you think it is.

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Speaker 6: And they're probably be closer to than you imagine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, focus on your priorities. What's that mean?

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Speaker 6: You know what?

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Speaker 17: High performers always know what their priorities are. They make

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Speaker 17: time for health because they know if they don't have

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Speaker 17: to make time for sickness. So I always say high

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Speaker 17: performers should take their meds. Meds should be number one priority.

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Speaker 17: That's meditation, exercise, diet, and sleep. Common sense, but not

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Speaker 17: common practice.

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Speaker 3: No, that is true because they if you talk about

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Speaker 3: your traditional high performer, that's the person who's working hard,

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Speaker 3: grinding and they don't have time for any of that

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01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: other stuff, which is what you were talking about before.

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Speaker 6: You Absolutely make time for it.

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Speaker 3: Take no shortcuts, you know what.

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Speaker 6: I believe that.

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01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 17: The person who takes the shortcut pays the price. So

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01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 17: if you want great results, it's played a long game.

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01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 17: Nothing great happens overnight. Overex sensations are made over decades.

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Speaker 3: Geez, it's good advice. If only well, this is the difference.

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Speaker 3: If only we could apply all of these things, we'd

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Speaker 3: all be high achievers. And I guess that's what separates

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Speaker 3: out the high achievers from the non high achievers. If

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Speaker 3: you believe you're a high achievement, and no matter what

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 3: you're doing and where you are, if you believe you're

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Speaker 3: a higher achiever, are.

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Speaker 17: You look, all starts with achieving, starts with believing. So

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Speaker 17: I believed at twelve I could win the World Championships

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Speaker 17: at thirteen. My dad, if he wasn't Northern Irish, he

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Speaker 17: could be ki we Studability is everything, he said, Son,

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Speaker 17: don't set yourself up for failure. You're probably not going

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Speaker 17: to win this. But I said that if I go

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Speaker 17: in thinking like that, I've lost already. So I do

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Speaker 17: believe that you've got to have it in your mind

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Speaker 17: before you have it in reality.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic, great to talk to you, James. Good advice apart

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Speaker 3: from anything else. And I think it was free. Was free.

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Speaker 3: We didn't pay them for that, do we yeares? I

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Speaker 3: think it was free? His book is habits for high

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Speaker 3: performance James Laughlin A twenty one.

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Speaker 3: business running on the business fiber Husky. Very interesting. This

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Speaker 3: guy's a full work life balances and must have and

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Speaker 3: critical to mental health. He's just reworking or rewording what

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Speaker 3: it really means. Not everyone can be a high achiever. Jeez, Glenn,

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01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 3: it's Glenn, Glenn, It's Glenn. I literally did not everyone

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Speaker 3: can be a high achiever, because if we're all high achievers,

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Speaker 3: then we're all just average achieve Is that wea? Is

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01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: it just Glenn's who don't You've got to have Glens

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Speaker 3: Gleans who make the will go around. That is too many,

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01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 3: if not most, can mentally motivate themselves to be champions

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 3: or have the ability to do so. He does not

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Speaker 3: understand the psychic ability of your average person or of

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Speaker 3: your average glean. That's what I'm saying, Spirrah thought for

1542
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 3: the average people? Way, what about it? What about the

1543
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 3: Glenn's out there? Fair enough? Very good piece from Chris

1544
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 3: Keel yesterday, the Tech editor in The Herald, on this

1545
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 3: ongoing mystery of the media's reaction to AWS last week,

1546
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 3: and they talked to a bloke who basically, they are

1547
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: using the power by the way people are going, does

1548
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 3: it really exist? Did anything really happen? Was it a

1549
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,919
Speaker 3: new story? Was it not? Yes, it was because Amazon

1550
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 3: are currently using the power contract that they signed with

1551
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: Mercury back in twenty twenty three to take half the

1552
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 3: output from the gent Taylor's new one hundred and three

1553
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 3: megawatt wind farms south of Palmston North. So they are

1554
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,879
Speaker 3: pulling power off the crit like there is no tomorrow.

1555
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: But as one guy called Glenn Barnes says in the article,

1556
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 3: read the whole article is fascinating inside. He didn't care

1557
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 3: how Amazon delivered its cluster of three availability zones. Whether

1558
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 3: they built their own or co located doesn't matter. It

1559
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if they own the data center or its

1560
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 3: third party, And the one out West would only have

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01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 3: been one of the three they required for the region.

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Speaker 3: That's the one that didn't get built and all the

1563
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: scandals started from. So quote them. What's the problem for

1564
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: us having AWS and New Zealand's a good thing as

1565
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 3: it makes it easier to land New Zealand based business.

1566
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 3: He saw no issue with the business leasing space rather

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01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 3: than owning it. So read all of that.

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 14: More straight talk from an average Glen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, more straight talk from an average glen. Not a

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01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 3: high performer, but just logical news for you. In a

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01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 3: couple of moments, then to the UK and our mate

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Speaker 3: Rod Little Hearing News Talk Zed.

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Speaker 3: My power price per kilowatt from Mercury went up forty

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01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: six percent the day after a WUS announcement. I can

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Speaker 3: send you the bill. You don't need to send me

1579
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: the bill. What And you should read the article that

1580
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 3: I alerted to you too before the news because it's

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01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 3: not forty six percent, and it's not Mercury, and it

1582
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,919
Speaker 3: wasn't tied into the day after. But the article does indicate,

1583
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 3: and it is a valid point, is that the more

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 3: data centers you have in the country, the more power

1585
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 3: that's required and needed, and that's going to be potentially

1586
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 3: an issue and it does drive the market price wise.

1587
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 3: So in that sense, it's a classic supply demand situation.

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01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 3: If we had unlimited supply fantastic, but we don't. And

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 3: so as the demand grows but the supply doesn't match it,

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01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,759
Speaker 3: that's where your price rises come. So it is material.

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Speaker 3: So your point is reasonably well made. Let me take

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 3: you to a private dinner. We're in Washington and there

1593
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 3: is a clash between a couple of Trump's top people.

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01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 3: One's a guy should I know, Bill Pult? I don't

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01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 3: know the name anyway, So he's one of the key guys.

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Speaker 3: He's the Housing Finance official, Bill Pult. But the other

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01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 3: guy we do know. He is Scott Bessant, And at

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01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 3: one particular point at this dinner, Bessant was threatening to

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Speaker 3: punch Pult in the effing face. This last Wednesday was

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01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: supposed to be a celebratory dinner, much anticipated inaugural dinner

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Speaker 3: at the Executive Brunch Georgetown Club.

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Speaker 6: Did he's steal a chip off his plate or something?

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01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 3: Probably long table? Thirty guests? How at? Lutnek was there?

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01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 3: Bougain was there? Brooke Rowlins was there, Tossy Gabbard was there?

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 3: Ah Marmette Oz otherwise known as doctor Oz. He was there? Anyway?

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01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 3: The Treasury Secretary heard from several people from the Federal

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01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 3: Housing Finance Agency director that he'd been bad mouthed by him, So,

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01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 3: in other words, what he was saying there is Pult

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01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 3: is bad mouthing Bessant. Why the f are you talking

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01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 3: to the President about me?

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01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 5: F you?

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01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 3: Besant told Pult, I'm going to punch you in the

1613
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 3: effing face. Pault appeared stunned. The encounter prompted the club

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01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 3: owner and financier, a guy called Omeid Malick, to intervene,

1615
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 3: at which point it's either me or him. Bessant said

1616
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 3: to Malick, you tell me who's getting the f outer here,

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 3: or he added, we could go out. This is not

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01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 3: a movie. This happened last Wednesday, and Washington to do

1619
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 3: what asked Pault to talk no, Besant replied, I'm going

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01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 3: to if and beat your ass. Melick separated them, walked

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Speaker 3: Best into another part of the club to calm him

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Speaker 3: down't you? And when they finally got around to sitting

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01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 3: down for dinner, Best and Pault were at the oppice

1624
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 3: the ends of the table. Things are going well. Twenty

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Speaker 3: one minutes away from.

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Speaker 11: Nine International correspondence with Insit Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 11: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: Right to Britain, Rod Morning.

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Speaker 8: Mate, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 3: Since we last spoke, it's all turned to custard, so

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,440
Speaker 3: Rainer quits. Of course, my main question is in rain acquitting,

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01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 3: did we need a full blow and reshuffle.

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01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 8: No, this was planned before. The reshuffle had already been

1634
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 8: planned by the arm probably to come well before Reeves's

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01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 8: autumn statement, but in the next few weeks. But given

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 8: Rayner's departure, it was they were kind of lumped together.

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01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 8: So he replaces Rayner at some point and the rest

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01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 8: of the cabinet, which hasn't done very well for itself,

1639
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 8: gets reshuffled a couple of the cabinet posts. It's definitely

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01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 8: a step forward against Shabana mc mood into the Home

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 8: Office in place of Event Cooper. But the Home Offices

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01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 8: again is the Foreign Office is lost because I'm afraid

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01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 8: trusts over there. No great no great change, it's just

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01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 8: shifting the death chairs, as they say.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 3: I was going to ask whether there's a talent issue,

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01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 3: because I know that you're one of the world's biggest

1648
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 3: fans of David Lammy, so his loss would be no, right, yes, exactly, No, it.

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Speaker 8: Has to be said. I don't think with the exception

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01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 8: of the Chagos Island deal. I don't think Lammy has

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01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 8: performed particularly badly as Foreign Secretary, and he's certainly managed

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01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 8: to get on side with JD. Vance and the American regime,

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01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 8: which is what we wanted of him. That being said,

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01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 8: he's been moved to a role where as Deputy Prime

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01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 8: Minister basically you don't really do anything. You know, it's

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01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 8: it's it's it's not a role which has any great power.

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 8: And now, of course Starmer's in real trouble because the

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01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 8: Labor Party is tearing itself to bits over who should

1659
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 8: become Deputy Labor Party leader.

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Speaker 3: And that's a vite and so who are the hot containers?

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01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 3: Who's likely to win? And does it sit well with

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01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 3: you know, Starmer?

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01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, the hot contenders, people like Louise Heigho has already

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01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 8: done for fraud. It's whatever way clear Starbar turns. There

1665
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 8: is misery and trouble looking at him. Basically, I suspect

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01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,759
Speaker 8: he will end up stuck with someone who is quite

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01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:06,480
Speaker 8: left wing as his deputy PM. Richard Bergen is quite popular.

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01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 8: He's a moron and actually just I don't know if

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01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 8: you've ever spoken to him, It's like a plank of wood.

1670
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 8: Mic but there we are. He's going to end up

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01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 8: with someone very left wing, indeed, I suspect, and he

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01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 8: will have to take notice of them. It's a difficult

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01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 8: time for Starba.

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01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 3: It looks like a difficult time. Shabana Mahmud, who you

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01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 3: referenced just a moment ago, on her first day in

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01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: the job, one ninety seven people arrived in the Good

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01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 3: Country via the boat illegally. Is she good for the

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01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 3: Is she good for some sort of answer to this

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01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 3: or not?

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01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 8: I think she probably is. She's certainly been over the

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01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 8: last year the most effective, along with west streeting of

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01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 8: all labor, the labor cabinet ministers. She's quite blue labourish.

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01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 8: There's a tough streak to her. She's already saying now

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01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 8: they're going to stop visas for countries which refuse to

1685
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 8: take migrants back. That's a step forward. I think she

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01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 8: kind of possibly. I mean, she's lucky in the sense

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01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 8: to any worsity beat Cooper, but she is a talent

1688
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 8: and this labor government is not packed with talent.

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01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: Since we also last Spike I followed with the great

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01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 3: deal of interest over the weekend the Reform Party conference,

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01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,480
Speaker 3: and one of the articles I was reading, was suggesting

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01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 3: there was a time when they were sort of a

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01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 3: niche and you had a bit of a vibe, and

1694
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 3: they were full of vermin, vigor and energy. Whereas now

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01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: they're major and they hire the big halls and they're

1696
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 3: still full of them and vigor. This seems a thing.

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01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: They seem to be the real deal.

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01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 8: They are the real deal. They're massively. I spoke to

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01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 8: a few of them at their conference. They are so bulliant,

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01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 8: so full of themselves to quite a sickening degree. But

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01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 8: that's come about because they are at thirty five percent

1702
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 8: in the polls and the Labor Party is tearing itself

1703
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 8: to fits. You know, it could not be better for them,

1704
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 8: and the odds shortened by the week on them being

1705
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 8: you know, the next government.

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01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to see rodpreciate it. Rod's

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01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 3: back on Thursday. Because of course their FPP system, you

1708
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: can get a lot in the polls, but not necessarily

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01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 3: see it translate if you go back far enough in time,

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01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 3: you go back to the Values Party and those sort

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01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 3: of social credit parties in this country where they got

1712
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,799
Speaker 3: a percentage but never saw the light of day in parliament.

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01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: Are the UK by the way two hundred and fifty million

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01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 3: pound Defense Strategy. Also new Defense Industrial Strategy regional economic

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 3: growth boost innovation in the defense sector will offer working

1716
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,440
Speaker 3: families across the country opportunities such as highly skilled engineering

1717
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 3: positions or apprenticeships for young people. So that might be

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01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 3: something to follow. And the ongoing Palestine Action shambles after

1719
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,759
Speaker 3: the weekend, yet another weekend of upset and arrests. Anyway,

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01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 3: the Home Office has been given permission to challenge the

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01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 3: High Court ruling which allowed the Palestine Action to appeal

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01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 3: against its ban under terror legislation. So lawyers as always

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01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 3: a little winner. Eight forty five.

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Speaker 3: Twelve away from nine. Mike, So Amazon comes and probably

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Speaker 3: demands better pricing over fifteen years. So why isn't Amazon

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Speaker 3: being charged a premium so that every day customers receive

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Speaker 3: a better price. Answer l Jay to that particular question

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Speaker 3: is there isn't a business in the world that charges

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Speaker 3: people more per unit for the more they buy. No

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Speaker 3: one's ever done that. When you walk into a car

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Speaker 3: yard and say I don't want one car, I want fifty,

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Speaker 3: they go well, the cost per car's gone up. No

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Speaker 3: one does that. It's the exact opposite. And so they

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Speaker 3: do have a deal. I gave you the deal a

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Speaker 3: moment ago. So it's a same as ty point. When

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Speaker 3: you're selling a lot of it, you like a lot

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Speaker 3: of it because you've got guaranteed income. Speaking of income,

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Speaker 3: was it yesterday? We're talking to the bloke who did

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Speaker 3: the reporter? Was it last week? Locu did the report

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Speaker 3: on internationals not paying enough tax here and they need

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Speaker 3: to flick them off into the service fees and all

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01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. Yesterday Uber and for Reats, so

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Speaker 3: the food delivery part, and this is in New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: but they paid less than they pulled down four hundred

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Speaker 3: million dollars in this country. We gave them four hundred

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Speaker 3: million dollars. They paid less than a million in tax

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Speaker 3: and as far as they could do. And I think

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Speaker 3: I referenced at the time of the interview, was there's

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Speaker 3: no model around it. When I asked them the question

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Speaker 3: showing me you know who's done it well, there was

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Speaker 3: a very large pause as he tried to work out

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Speaker 3: who did it well. And the answer is, no, one's

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Speaker 3: done it well. Because of service fee. When you were

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Speaker 3: set up in New Zealand and your quarantined or head

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Speaker 3: office elsewhere, you pay this quote unquote service fee and

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01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 3: you avoid paying tax likely and if you can, why

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Speaker 3: wouldn't you? For goodness sake, food delivery profit increase from

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Speaker 3: one point seven to two point four million, so revenues

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Speaker 3: up seventeen percent, Which is interesting, isn't it. In the

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Speaker 3: so called cost of living crisis, we gave Uber food

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Speaker 3: delivery seventeen percent more money. Why do we do that?

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Speaker 3: Ryde hail net profit fell, so that's interesting. Revenue slipped

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Speaker 3: as well, so it went backwards from one hundred nine

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Speaker 3: to one hundred and four million, so income was based

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Speaker 3: on five hundred and thirty nine thousand dollars they paid

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01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 3: once again these big service fees to the US parent

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Speaker 3: Uber Eats paid a service fee of one hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirteen point eight million. Uber paid ninety eight point six million.

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Speaker 3: Combined revenue increased from three sixty five to four h three,

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Speaker 3: net profit from three point three to three point five,

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Speaker 3: so they are making a profit because most of the

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Speaker 3: time they've not made a profit in this particular country.

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Speaker 3: What I didn't realize is John Small who's the head

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Speaker 3: of the Commerce Commission? Back in July posted on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 3: That's probably why I didn't realize, because I'm not on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 3: If you're using Uber, please reconsider. He urged people to

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Speaker 3: switch to Bolt or d D to be kind to

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Speaker 3: your driver. Given the peer let the driver keep more

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Speaker 3: of the fair. So the Commerce Commission was involved. But

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't know that, would you? And I don't think

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Speaker 3: anyone of us think that, do they. I mean, in general,

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Speaker 3: you just get the food delivered, the food turns up,

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Speaker 3: and as far as I can work out, the guys

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Speaker 3: will work for everyone, don't they. That just depends on

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Speaker 3: what you want. You're a taxi driver, you're an Uber driver,

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Speaker 3: You're a Bolt driver, a help driver, a private limousine

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Speaker 3: driver for just a driver nine minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 3: Imagine the company of the backs itself so much that

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Speaker 3: it lets you bring the product back at any time,

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Speaker 3: And then imagine they promised never to increase the price

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Speaker 3: the numbers for you Winston Peter's compulsory mandatory key Wesaber

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Speaker 3: thing over the weekend. Obviously, first question you asked when

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Speaker 3: the tax cuts came, how much is that going to cost?

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Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with mandatory, you notice, ever since two weeks

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Speaker 3: ago I said we need to make Keyisaber compulsory, everyone's

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Speaker 3: decided to make keV save. There's at least two NGO's

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Speaker 3: government groups, research groups, whatever you want to call them,

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Speaker 3: have come out and said we need to make it compulsory.

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Speaker 3: And now Peters has decided to make it compulsory. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: he's offsetting it with tax cuts. How much would the

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Speaker 3: tax cuts cost Somewhere between twelve point three and twenty

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Speaker 3: eight point three billion. So you take the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four key Wesab contribution, they're five point nine percent of

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Speaker 3: all wages reported to the IRD, So you're dealing immediately

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Speaker 3: with eleven point nine billion. If you increase that to

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Speaker 3: a contribution of eight percent for the employee, four percent

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Speaker 3: for the employee er, you're up at twelve point three

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Speaker 3: billion in additional contributions. So that's an easy game. Four

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Speaker 3: minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2: Trending now with him as well. Spring Frenzy sale on.

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Speaker 3: Now Harry's back in the UK. He's talking to his

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Speaker 3: friends at well Child.

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Speaker 19: in its mission to give children and young people with

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Speaker 19: complex medical needs the chance to thrive fabulous.

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Speaker 3: He then had a sword fight with some balloons and

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Speaker 3: he told everybody because they were gripped, that he's watching Hostage,

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Speaker 3: which is on Netflix. And he watches Netflix because he's

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Speaker 3: been told to by his missus, because that's how they

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Speaker 3: make the money these days. Anyway, he still has friends

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Speaker 3: left in Britain.

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Speaker 5: I think people talk a lot and they don't know

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Speaker 5: a lot.

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Speaker 13: And when it comes to people like Clarry.

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Speaker 1: And anybody in the public fight.

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Speaker 14: It doesn't really matter who profs in the pudding.

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Speaker 9: So at the end of the day he.

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Speaker 14: Does really good at work, peoples.

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Speaker 3: That's Josh Stone, in case you were wondering who that was.

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Speaker 3: The big question is he's in town. I think is

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Speaker 3: it two or three days? I can't remember, but he's

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Speaker 3: in down for a couple of days. And the big

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Speaker 3: question is Dad's up in Scotland at the moment. So

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Speaker 3: it's the are we getting back together. This is are

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Speaker 3: the stars aligned? Is the question? Will there be a

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Speaker 3: meeting of minds, a shaking of hands, a forgiving of ills,

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Speaker 3: and all will be well with the world. Well that's

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Speaker 3: probably something we can talk some more about tomorrow, because look,

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Speaker 3: once again they tell me I've got to get out

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Speaker 3: of here. Back tomorrow. Happy days, I'm fucking mam my baby.

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