1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Lots of people texting about Andrew Bailey. Ryan, what a 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: woke country. The MP didn't abuse whomever, He just touched 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: a shoulder for goodness sakes, Get real, we have more 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: important issues. The media should be focusing its attention on 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: twenty four minutes away from six. We'll do that right now. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: The government is crying about how well the gang patch 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: ban is going. Three months in three hundred and thirty 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: seven charges for breaching the Act. So far, sixty seven 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: firearms have been seized. Weirdly enough, they've only seized seventy 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: six patches. Richard Chambers is the Commissioner of Polices with me, 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: good evening, Hello Ryan, it's seventy six. Now we've got 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: about ten thousand gang members on the register. That doesn't 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: seem like a huge number of patches to be seized 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: to me. 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Is it? Well? I think there's a couple of reasons 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: for that, Ryan. First of all, before the legislation began, 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: we were very very clear about what the rules were 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: going to be. After the twenty first November, our job 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: is to enforce the law, and my staff across the country. 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: You've done marvelous so game members that have certainly we're 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: very clear about our expectations of them, and so not 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: only am I staff working very hard, but of course 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: I think when it comes to compliance with the law, 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: this does reflect some good decision making by GAEN members 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: by not wearing their patches. 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: So you reckon the reason you've only taken seventy six 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: off the streets is because they're actually wearing them less. 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's the feedback that I get from my front 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: line outfits the feedback that I get from the public. 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: Of course, we've charged or prosecuted for over three hundred 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: breaches of this particular law of the game insignia that 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: that includes seventy six patches, So there are other things 33 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: like T shirts and caps and other bits and pieces. 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: But yes, I believe that this comes down to the 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: hard work of myself across the country and it's certainly 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: been noticed. 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, sixty seven firearms you say that have been 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: seized in the last three months, is that I mean 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: those have been seized regardless of the gang patch thing 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: the insignia. 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: I think, well, you know, I mean, of course, in 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: law enforcement we do a whole lot of different things, 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: and you know, we're doing search warrants, for other crimes. 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: So we come across firearms just through our normal work, 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: but in this particular legislation if we are unable to 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: deal with gang and syne at time, or allows us 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: to follow up with search plants of premises, and as 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: a consequence of that, yes, we are finding the firearms 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: and other things. That's why three thousand charges other charges 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: for violence, drugs and firearms. 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: So, I mean, obviously these figures are about seizures and 52 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: about things being taken from gang members. Is it actually 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: having an effect? Are the streets safer because of this 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: piece of law? Can you say that yet? 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: Absolutely is the case? Ryan, Not only my front lines 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: are saying that they see an absolute absence of gang insignia, 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: but more importantly, the public is saying that they are 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: actually feeling safer, they aren't experiencing the same intimidation that 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: they have in the past. So I think this has 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: been a good piece of legislation which my staff has 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: embraced and the benefits of those being in the public, 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: in the community across the country. 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's fascinating to hear you say that, because 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't that long ago that people were saying this 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: bill was the end of the world, you. 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: Know, correctly correct. I think there are a lot of 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: people out there who thought the police can't do this, 68 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: this won't be achieved. Well, I think we've proven those 69 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: out there that thought that very wrong. 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: Richard Chambers, Police Commissioner, Thanks so much for your time. 71 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.