WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 02 February 2025 

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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<v Speaker 1>from news Talks at b Meason twice God once, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe called Pete first. Peter wolf Camp, the Resident Builder

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<v Speaker 1>News Talk said by.

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<v Speaker 2>The house is a hole even when it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Dark, even when the grass is overgrown in the yard,

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<v Speaker 3>and even when the dog is.

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<v Speaker 2>Too old to bar, and when you're sitting at the

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<v Speaker 2>table trying not to starve, scissor home even.

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<v Speaker 3>When we are benn even when you're therellone.

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<v Speaker 2>House is a home even when there's gone, Even.

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<v Speaker 4>When you go around funnel one, you love your more.

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<v Speaker 2>Scream does broken pans appeing in funnel locals vestible when

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<v Speaker 2>they're gone, leaving the neighbors, even when we'll run, even

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<v Speaker 2>when you're there alone.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, a very good morning and welcome along to the

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<v Speaker 5>Resident Builder on Sunday with me Peter wolf Camp, the

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<v Speaker 5>Resident Builder. And this is your opportunity to have a

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<v Speaker 5>good old fashioned chin wag about projects that you might

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<v Speaker 5>have on. And a project might involve the people involved,

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<v Speaker 5>the contractors, subcontractors, designers, litigants, neighbors, et cetera. It might

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<v Speaker 5>involve the the items that you need, the products that

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<v Speaker 5>you might need to complete a task. It might even

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<v Speaker 5>involve the items that you need in order to actually

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<v Speaker 5>undertake the work. I the tools that you might need.

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<v Speaker 5>It might be the rules and regulations. It may well

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<v Speaker 5>be some of the issues and challenges that come along

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<v Speaker 5>as an inevitable part of building and construction. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>all there on the table today. Eight hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 5>ten eighty is the number to call if you've got

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<v Speaker 5>a building question, call us now. Quick rundown of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>This morning, Jay Sharples, our razine painting expert, will join

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<v Speaker 5>us for the first time this year. We had his

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<v Speaker 5>colleague Bryce on the show a little while ago, so

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<v Speaker 5>Jay I'll be with us at around seven twenty this morning.

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<v Speaker 5>If you've got any specific painting questions and please text

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<v Speaker 5>them through to nine to nine two, which is SAIDBZB

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<v Speaker 5>on your mobile phone. A little later, we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>catch up with Mark Haldane from Sweetwater Construction and just

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<v Speaker 5>have a look at his use of tryboard and of

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<v Speaker 5>Jnel's jayframe as well, so we're quick chat about that.

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<v Speaker 5>As always, is available from eight point thirty this morning,

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<v Speaker 5>so the lines are open. The number to call eight

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and eighty ten eighty. I'll give you a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a rundown of what I've been up to as well,

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<v Speaker 5>a week of I was going to say, contrasts in

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<v Speaker 5>the sense that I went to a seminar. It's got

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<v Speaker 5>to be at least ten years ago. It might even

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<v Speaker 5>be a little bit longer than that, excuse me. And

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<v Speaker 5>the one of the ideas that was introduced, and it

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<v Speaker 5>was more a sort of general thing around housing, and

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<v Speaker 5>it talked about the housing spectrum in the sense that

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<v Speaker 5>often when we talk about house and we tend to

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<v Speaker 5>get focused on the image that we sometimes have in

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<v Speaker 5>our head, which is, you know, house New Zealand. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>tell her it's a single dwelling on a piece of

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<v Speaker 5>land with some space around it, with a packet fence

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<v Speaker 5>at the at the front, et cetera. And our housing

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<v Speaker 5>types are more varied than that, and our housing in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of whether it's public owned, private owned, whether it's

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<v Speaker 5>basically cheap or expensive, you know, low cost or extremely expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>There is this spectrum and most of our housing sits

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere in the middle, if you know, the old Bell

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<v Speaker 5>curve from statistics at school. But there's housing on both

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<v Speaker 5>extremes as well, So in that sense, I've I've in

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<v Speaker 5>a way had an opportunity to have a look at

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<v Speaker 5>both ends of that spectrum over the course of the week. Confusing,

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<v Speaker 5>I know, but don't worry. Stick with us. I'll explain

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean a bit later on this morning. But

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<v Speaker 5>right now let's rip into it. The lines are open.

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<v Speaker 5>The number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Trust

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<v Speaker 5>that you've had a good week and what have we

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<v Speaker 5>got this week? Of course, couple of days of work

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<v Speaker 5>and then white Tony Day on Thursday, and then back

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<v Speaker 5>to work Friday, Yes, back to work Friday, and then

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<v Speaker 5>another weekend ahead. So eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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<v Speaker 5>the number to call. And looking forward to having your

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<v Speaker 5>calls and your conversation this morning. We're into it straight away.

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<v Speaker 5>Rub good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, h Pete's ready here.

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<v Speaker 7>Rung your cup God, rung you a couple of times

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<v Speaker 7>regarding this issue.

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<v Speaker 6>Last time just before Christmas.

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<v Speaker 7>Just a reminder, we bought a show home with a

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<v Speaker 7>half of our son.

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<v Speaker 6>About seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, discovered about six months ago that paint was bubbling

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<v Speaker 7>off a wall behind.

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<v Speaker 6>It, on the opposite side of a shower. And then

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sweet.

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<v Speaker 7>Rang the builder went down there because it's a long

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<v Speaker 7>way away from Auckland where we're living. Had just had

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<v Speaker 7>discussions with him. His basic answer was, it's maintenance. You

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<v Speaker 7>haven't maintained the grout, the tiles, the silicon, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>not our problem. While he was while while I was

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<v Speaker 7>down there, I discovered in the main bathroom a toadstool

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<v Speaker 7>growing in the carpet and the carpet was soaking wet.

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<v Speaker 6>So he had a look at that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>same issue maintenance.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyway, after months of discussions, we got no where. Went

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<v Speaker 7>to the main franchise holder, the head office. They didn't

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<v Speaker 7>want to get involved because as far as they were concerned,

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<v Speaker 7>the builder didn't agree with anything we said.

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<v Speaker 8>So I rang you before Christmas.

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<v Speaker 7>You advised maybe getting a building surveyor, and so we

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<v Speaker 7>went to our insurance company, which the builder wanted us

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<v Speaker 7>to do, but we knew that wouldn't be covered because

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<v Speaker 7>it's slow water damage which they don't cover. So we

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<v Speaker 7>organized for our assessor to come in and have a

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<v Speaker 7>look and organize the building surveyor to come in and

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<v Speaker 7>have a look.

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<v Speaker 6>They produced two reports.

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<v Speaker 7>Stating that the tiling and the bathrooms both bathrooms was

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<v Speaker 7>non compliant with the code because of tiles sloped away

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<v Speaker 7>from the showers instead of towards the showers. So in

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<v Speaker 7>the meantime we got the property file and having been

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<v Speaker 7>in the building industry all my life, went through it

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<v Speaker 7>like a forensic scientist and discovered half another half a

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<v Speaker 7>dozen other issues which were non compliant.

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<v Speaker 6>With the with the code.

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<v Speaker 7>And then there was another major problem where all the

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<v Speaker 7>safites are villaboard porches and cefits and all the joints

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<v Speaker 7>were cracking and the tape was falling out.

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<v Speaker 6>Spoke to the.

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<v Speaker 7>Builder again about two weeks ago, and he knew nothing

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<v Speaker 7>about all these other issues we had, but we gave

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<v Speaker 7>him the reports from the building assessor and from the

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<v Speaker 7>insurance assessor, plus the building surveyor. Wow, and he was

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<v Speaker 7>still not really agreeing with anything that was said. So

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<v Speaker 7>after that meeting, the tyler left and we promptly took

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<v Speaker 7>the book the book around the building and showed them

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<v Speaker 7>all these half half a dozen other issues which he

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<v Speaker 7>couldn't really argue with. They were pretty black and white,

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<v Speaker 7>and he probably well sort of left the site feeling probably.

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<v Speaker 6>Quite down, and I think he had a few sleepless nights.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyway, we met again about a week later, which was

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<v Speaker 7>about a week ago, and we had discussions and he

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<v Speaker 7>finally agreed to cover all the costs of the repairs.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, it's taken six months of absolute you know, stress.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, you know, but we finally got where we

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<v Speaker 6>needed to be.

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<v Speaker 5>And I can understand from your point of view, Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it must seem like a lot of effort

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<v Speaker 5>on your part to get to hear I'm looking at it,

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose contrasting it to other situations, I understand, and

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<v Speaker 5>you just go, wow, if you've and especially if you've

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<v Speaker 5>gotten a writing and he's actually going to follow through

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<v Speaker 5>with the promises, it's actually.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we realizes that, you know, he's been sort

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<v Speaker 7>of backed into a corner. One of one of the

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<v Speaker 7>things he did say at the final meeting we had

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<v Speaker 7>with him that because insurances could be involved, yes, his

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<v Speaker 7>approach has to be deny, deny, deny, because he can't

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<v Speaker 7>admit if you're looking at coverent with insurance, you are

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<v Speaker 7>not allowed to admit that you're at fault because that's

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<v Speaker 7>the way insurance works. Yeah, you know, and that's it's

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<v Speaker 7>very frustrating when you. You know, you sort of got

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<v Speaker 7>all this evidence and it's piling up against him, and

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<v Speaker 7>he still got us back against the wall, going, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>not my problem, not my problem, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you're right, his his insurer. And look, it's no

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<v Speaker 5>different to you and I if we're in a car crash,

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<v Speaker 5>for example, you know, surer would say, don't admit liability, right,

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<v Speaker 5>take it responsibility. Look, I think I know it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>been a bit of a tortuous approach. I'm certainly delighted that.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess the beauty of getting you know, making it

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<v Speaker 5>evidence based. Right, So you've done the right thing. You've

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<v Speaker 5>gone out to a building professional, I a registered building server.

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<v Speaker 6>It's cost us thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>I can imagine, yep. And and will those costs be reimbursed?

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose you'd look at that and just go, look,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe I'm just gonna have to suck that up.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, he suggested possibly.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, again, if it's through insurance, it probably should be.

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<v Speaker 5>When you say just a final thing, they're gonna move on.

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<v Speaker 5>But the so, the constructor who did the work all

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<v Speaker 5>those years ago obviously has insurance for his work, and

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<v Speaker 5>in that sense.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I don't know, Okay, talking.

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<v Speaker 5>To insurance, so it might get a concruence.

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<v Speaker 7>Covers it or we don't know. But I been talking

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<v Speaker 7>to master Builders because we have a master Builders warranty, yep,

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<v Speaker 7>Ike been talking, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So they might come to the party as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Where he's going.

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<v Speaker 7>The tyler apparently has insurance, so they've been discussing.

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<v Speaker 6>The tiler's been discussed with his insurance.

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<v Speaker 7>Or but again I don't know whether their insurance covers it.

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<v Speaker 5>To be honest, it will be really really interesting. Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>I really do appreciate the update because I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>there's there's a lot of really good lessons in it.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm particularly delighted at the fact that I suppose

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<v Speaker 5>by presenting evidence. You know, so often when we go

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<v Speaker 5>into these sorts of discussions, it's like I think, or

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I think it should be better or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>But in this case, when you can go here, I've

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<v Speaker 5>had a registered building surveyor who has this qualification in

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<v Speaker 5>order to prove their ability to make these comments. And

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<v Speaker 5>here is the evidence. This is what's been done. This

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<v Speaker 5>is what the code states. The two don't line up. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 5>this work is below the code. I mean you know,

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<v Speaker 5>unless he wants to go and argue and get a

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<v Speaker 5>determination or something like that.

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<v Speaker 7>He's, well, that's the other option we put to him,

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<v Speaker 7>but he didn't be he's.

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<v Speaker 5>He's snucking all that. Yeah, good on you look and

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<v Speaker 5>now I guess the hopeful thing is that it happens

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<v Speaker 5>in a timely fashion. But the great thing is that

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<v Speaker 5>you've got an indication, an intent to get this sorted,

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<v Speaker 5>and that that must feel really good. Rudy, thanks very much,

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<v Speaker 5>really appreciate that, ud Take care. Yeah, made, I bet,

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<v Speaker 5>I bet pleasure all the best. Oh, eight hundred eighty

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<v Speaker 5>ten eighty nine, two ninety two. Someone's just text through

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<v Speaker 5>they'd like to email, of course you can. It is

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<v Speaker 5>Pete at Newstalk SIDB dot co dot nz. So p

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<v Speaker 5>e t E just Pete at Newstalk, SAIDB dot co

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<v Speaker 5>dot n Z. It's coming up nineteen minutes. Is just

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen minutes after six. If you'd like to join us,

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<v Speaker 5>we've got Ray Wend next, but there's space for you

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<v Speaker 5>after that. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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<v Speaker 5>to call.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing of the house sorting the garden last feet for

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<v Speaker 1>a hand the resident builder with Peter wolfcab call oh

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred eight youth dogs envy.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess if you're listening to the show over the

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<v Speaker 5>last little while, probably for years, you tend to get

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<v Speaker 5>the indication that, you know, like all tiled showers end

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<v Speaker 5>up with issues of some description. And that's me and

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<v Speaker 5>that's what we were talking about with Rudy. It's what

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<v Speaker 5>we'll talk about with Raywan in a moment. I think

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<v Speaker 5>as well, we've had any number of calls about you know,

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<v Speaker 5>someone discovers that there's a damp patch on the carpet

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<v Speaker 5>on the other side of the wall from the shower,

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<v Speaker 5>or in this case mold growing in the shower, or

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<v Speaker 5>a toadstool growing in the shower. That's pretty sure signed

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<v Speaker 5>that there's some issues with the waterproofing. I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>fair to say though that there's I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 5>literally hundreds of showers that have been tiled, waterproof tiled

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<v Speaker 5>over ten, fifteen, twenty years later, no issue, which just

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<v Speaker 5>emphasizes the fact that you can do it properly. They

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<v Speaker 5>don't have to fail. They shouldn't fail if you read

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<v Speaker 5>the instructions, do what's on the instructions, and you suitably

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<v Speaker 5>qualified and experienced trades people to undertake the work. They'll

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<v Speaker 5>be absolutely fine, right Raywn, let us know where you're

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<v Speaker 5>at now, this is your place in a retirement village.

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<v Speaker 5>We've chatted a few times about this. Finally they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to fix it.

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<v Speaker 8>How are you going, Well, I've ripped it all a part.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm staying with a friend. It was rotten all the

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<v Speaker 9>way round. Part of it was rotten, mulled all the

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<v Speaker 9>way around. It was had been leaking and apart it

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<v Speaker 9>in two places in the shower, so it's been a

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<v Speaker 9>part the heat to put in to dry it all out,

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<v Speaker 9>and then they sprayed it with ganola and now the

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<v Speaker 9>jib's back on. So it's I just wanted to give

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<v Speaker 9>you a quick update. I was right and it was

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<v Speaker 9>leaking them underneath the tiles and so all of being

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<v Speaker 9>done to fix it, and the waterproofing was minimal underneath it, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>So yes, I'm glad that I've picked it up. It

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<v Speaker 9>took four months to get them to do something about it,

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<v Speaker 9>but that's on the way.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, fantastic, And so you'll have a fully functioning and

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<v Speaker 5>water proof shower in what a couple of weeks time, maybe.

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<v Speaker 9>Seen four days now, so it'll be it'll be a

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<v Speaker 9>little while. So yeah, So that thanks for listening to me,

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<v Speaker 9>and I just wanted to give you enough to say

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<v Speaker 9>that it's being discovered and the need and underway.

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<v Speaker 5>Fantastic. That's great, Really appreciate the update. Just in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of making mistakes is a phrase that we use on

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<v Speaker 5>site quite a lot, but I just can't repeat it

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<v Speaker 5>on the air. But it's along the lines of it's

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<v Speaker 5>not if you can fix it right, And the reality

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<v Speaker 5>of actually making things is that sometimes you do make mistakes,

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<v Speaker 5>and then at that point where you do make mistakes,

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<v Speaker 5>it's really just all about the fixing thereof mistakes. Not inevitable,

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<v Speaker 5>but they do happen. This is the nature of life,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess. So once you have made a mistake, then

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<v Speaker 5>what's really important is putting it right. Oh, eight hundred

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<v Speaker 5>eighty ten eighty number to call. Yes, just to that

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<v Speaker 5>email or to the text you'd like to email. It's

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<v Speaker 5>Pete ATNEWSTALKZB dot co dot NZ. This is an interesting

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<v Speaker 5>one too, sh I'll come back to that one. That's

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<v Speaker 5>all but technical at this stage. This one got my attention.

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<v Speaker 5>It came in pretty soon after the show started what

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<v Speaker 5>triggers a resource consent for a retaining wall adding it

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<v Speaker 5>into a building consent. In a situation where I need

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<v Speaker 5>to retain a three meter high slope, which is fairly

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<v Speaker 5>extensive looking at a series of terraces, to reduce the

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<v Speaker 5>height of each one to say six hundred high, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to use these large pre made concrete blocks six

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<v Speaker 5>hundred by six hundred by fifteen hundred, so they are

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<v Speaker 5>about twelve hundred kilos each. Criky. So do the terraces

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<v Speaker 5>and is there a distance between each retaining wall soils

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<v Speaker 5>expansive but stable as per the soil report, I think

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<v Speaker 5>in a nutshell, you're probably going to have to have

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<v Speaker 5>definitely need specific design by your engineer as to the

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<v Speaker 5>construction of the wall. So there might be, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>a minimum distance between the front face of each wall

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<v Speaker 5>to ensure that the surcharge of the retaining block is

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<v Speaker 5>not loading up on the block below. So that might

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<v Speaker 5>mean that you've got to be let's say, from front

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<v Speaker 5>face to front face of each of those terraces a

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<v Speaker 5>meter and a half back. It won't necessarily be able

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<v Speaker 5>to be done where they stack them on top of

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<v Speaker 5>each other, or just with a minimal gap. It's specific design. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 5>anything above one point five meters requires specific design for

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<v Speaker 5>any type of retaining wall three meters definitely in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of resource consent. Typically that would only be triggered if

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<v Speaker 5>there was bulk excavations to do, or you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>raise a building platform, which would then raise your entire

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<v Speaker 5>building up above the heightened relation to boundary. Heightened relation

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<v Speaker 5>to boundary is this sort of imaginary line that exists

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<v Speaker 5>along a boundary where all buildings have to comply with.

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<v Speaker 5>So you take a line at the boundary, you go

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<v Speaker 5>up a required height. It might be anywhere from two

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<v Speaker 5>point four to two point seven, possibly a bit higher,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you imagine a recession plane, so an angle

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<v Speaker 5>from there, depending on which side of the boundary on

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<v Speaker 5>it might be forty five degrees, it might be thirty degrees.

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<v Speaker 5>And then it's expected that your building sits within that line.

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<v Speaker 5>There's an ability to infringe that, but then to infringe

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<v Speaker 5>might require a building resource consent, either approval from the

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<v Speaker 5>neighbors or in some cases the planners can say, look,

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<v Speaker 5>the effects are less than minor, often for gable ends

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<v Speaker 5>and dormers and those sorts of things. So I wonder

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<v Speaker 5>whether it's that part of the building that requires the

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<v Speaker 5>resource consent because of the height or the bulk of

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<v Speaker 5>the excavation. The building consent will cover the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 5>I would definitely get specific engineering advice and design for

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<v Speaker 5>a retaining wall of that height, particularly if at the

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<v Speaker 5>top of it you've either got your building platform sitting

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<v Speaker 5>on it, or for example, if you've got a driveway,

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<v Speaker 5>So if there's a surcharge of a driveway, no matter

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<v Speaker 5>how high the retaining wall is, that also then triggers

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<v Speaker 5>the requirement for specific design and especially a building consent.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope that makes sense. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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<v Speaker 5>is the number to call. If you've got a question

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<v Speaker 5>of a building nature, you should call us right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit later on. We've got our painting expert,

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<v Speaker 5>Jay Sharples from Razine. He'll be with us at around

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<v Speaker 5>seven twenty this morning. So if you've got any specific

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<v Speaker 5>painting questions, it is nine two ninety two that you

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<v Speaker 5>can send those questions through and will have a chat

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<v Speaker 5>with Jay from Razine a little bit later on. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call back

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<v Speaker 5>in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're paity with ceiling, fixing with fans, or wondering

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<v Speaker 1>how to fix that hole in the wall. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have Peter Wolf capit call on eighty the resident builder

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<v Speaker 1>on youth dogs B.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just thinking with the conversations around leaking showers

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<v Speaker 5>and that I was involved in a situation or engage

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<v Speaker 5>with a discussion dispute I guess around waterproofing, and in

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<v Speaker 5>fact we're doing the opposite, proving that the leak didn't

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<v Speaker 5>come from the shower in a particular situation this week.

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<v Speaker 5>And look, really one of the really simple ways of

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<v Speaker 5>doing that, and we often do it with testing of

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<v Speaker 5>waterproofing integrity prior to tiling, is to do the waterproofing,

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<v Speaker 5>allowed the time to cure properly so that it's actually

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<v Speaker 5>ready to use, and then flood the basin. This is

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose you can't really do it or can't do

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<v Speaker 5>it easily on a level entry. But if there's a

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<v Speaker 5>hob for example, around a tile shower enclosure and you

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<v Speaker 5>fully waterproofed it, you can just use a balloon basically

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<v Speaker 5>or something similar to plug the drain and then flood it.

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<v Speaker 5>So just fill it with water and wait and if

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<v Speaker 5>mark it on the wall or put a bit of

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<v Speaker 5>masking tape on or something like that. And if you

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<v Speaker 5>come back after twenty four hours and the levels drop,

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<v Speaker 5>then hey, chances are you got a leak. Come back

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<v Speaker 5>after twenty four hours and it has moved it all, well,

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<v Speaker 5>then it's probably going to stay water tight and durable

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<v Speaker 5>for many, many years to come. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a handy one. Always good to have a balloon

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<v Speaker 5>in the back of the truck. I say, oh, eight

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of other techs that have come through. And

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<v Speaker 5>now I think there's a bit more to this, retaining

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<v Speaker 5>War one. It's thirty meters from boundary. It's about six

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<v Speaker 5>or eight meters across. I need to cut a slope

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<v Speaker 5>into provide a crane footing or crane access. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>temporary only for a few months again, sure, or why

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<v Speaker 5>then if it is temporary, it would still require I

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<v Speaker 5>think you should still get specific design on it, particularly

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<v Speaker 5>if and if you're like me and you spend a

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<v Speaker 5>bit of time watching funny videos online. Crane's toppling over

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<v Speaker 5>because the ground is unstable, is not a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>fun for anyone involved. So if you are going to

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<v Speaker 5>sit a crane on it and you definitely want to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure that your retaining wall is up to the job,

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<v Speaker 5>eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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<v Speaker 5>call if you've got some building questions. We can take

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<v Speaker 5>those interesting. I had one of those weeks where a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of traveling chop went down to Hamilton to

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<v Speaker 5>have a look at a show home of a three

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<v Speaker 5>D printed house that's been completed and is available for

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<v Speaker 5>people to have a look at, and I guess ultimately

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to sell it as well. We'll talk a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more about that. But later on also went

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<v Speaker 5>to a factory that does not modular homes transportable homes,

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<v Speaker 5>so had to wander through that just to see the

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<v Speaker 5>pro and the construction and the methodology and the planning

0:23:10.015 --> 0:23:13.135
<v Speaker 5>that goes into those sorts of projects, which was pretty

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<v Speaker 5>impressive as well. And then on Friday went along to

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<v Speaker 5>a mid build open home of a what will be

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<v Speaker 5>a passive house and a passive house plus. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>a passive house which is all about air tightness, super

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<v Speaker 5>well insulated, full ventilation heat recovery system involved imported joinery

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<v Speaker 5>with triple glazing in it, massive amounts of insulation. The

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<v Speaker 5>insulation in the ceiling was effectively R point R eight

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<v Speaker 5>eight point zero. Bearing in mind we all freaked out

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<v Speaker 5>when the building code changed and if you went to

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<v Speaker 5>the schedule method you had to go to R six

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<v Speaker 5>point six. This has gone to R eight. The beauty

0:23:55.975 --> 0:23:57.895
<v Speaker 5>of these things is that it's an opportunity to go

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<v Speaker 5>through the building before it's finished. We can all go

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<v Speaker 5>to a house at the end and go, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 5>really cool, But all we're looking at is the finish

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<v Speaker 5>So the ability to go and look through and to

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<v Speaker 5>see the construction and the detailing around trying to get

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<v Speaker 5>air tightness using the right tapes, the way that the

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<v Speaker 5>joinery has been installed, all of those construction details, and

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<v Speaker 5>having the architect and its foremanths the SIPs panel people

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<v Speaker 5>out of christ Church they supplied the panels. Darryl Sang

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<v Speaker 5>was the architect. Builders were outstanding, very high quality work,

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<v Speaker 5>so quite a variety in terms of what I had

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<v Speaker 5>a chance to have a look at. This passive house too,

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, will be sort of certified as passive

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<v Speaker 5>house plus because of the ability to generate power from

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<v Speaker 5>solar panels. Quite possibly it will generate more power than

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<v Speaker 5>it will use over a year, which is pretty cool. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've got a project underweight,

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<v Speaker 5>let us know and let's talk about it. The lines

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<v Speaker 5>are open right now. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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<v Speaker 5>the number to call.

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<v Speaker 1>Squeaky door or squeaky floor, get the right advice. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a Beautibulfcare the resident builder on news talks AB your.

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<v Speaker 5>News Talks AB. It's coming up nineteen minutes away from

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<v Speaker 5>seven o'clock. Remember, in the next hour, we've got Jay Sharples,

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<v Speaker 5>our painting expert from Razine. He's going to be available

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<v Speaker 5>at around seven twenty this morning. Stuff. You've got any

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<v Speaker 5>specific painting questions, please text them through and we can

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<v Speaker 5>run through that. I mean, it feels like at this

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<v Speaker 5>time of year it's always that perfect outdoor painting time.

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<v Speaker 5>Staying out of the sun, of course is pretty important,

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<v Speaker 5>but in general we know that the weather's a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more stable and when you can get stuck into it. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 5>I think even this week I'll probably be able to

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<v Speaker 5>crack into a couple of little painting and maintenance jobs

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<v Speaker 5>around the place as well, So looking forward to that

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<v Speaker 5>if the weather state plays ball this week. Another text

0:25:54.815 --> 0:25:58.495
<v Speaker 5>that's come through from Sam, and it's a little bit technical,

0:25:59.415 --> 0:26:04.175
<v Speaker 5>so it's probably a more trade orientated get ape. He says,

0:26:04.415 --> 0:26:06.935
<v Speaker 5>I'm running a project in last week. I asked the

0:26:06.975 --> 0:26:10.575
<v Speaker 5>bricklayer to use fifty milimeter screws for the ties. So

0:26:10.975 --> 0:26:14.215
<v Speaker 5>if you've ever watched bricklayers working doing a brick veneer

0:26:14.415 --> 0:26:18.615
<v Speaker 5>on timber framing or whatever substrate or framing behind it,

0:26:19.375 --> 0:26:21.615
<v Speaker 5>every couple of courses, they'll run in like a little

0:26:21.775 --> 0:26:25.135
<v Speaker 5>l bracket which gets fixed back to the building and

0:26:25.215 --> 0:26:28.055
<v Speaker 5>gets bedded into the mortar as they're doing the bricks.

0:26:28.095 --> 0:26:30.095
<v Speaker 5>And the whole idea there is that it ties the

0:26:30.095 --> 0:26:33.815
<v Speaker 5>brick veneer to the structure of the building and prevents

0:26:33.815 --> 0:26:38.415
<v Speaker 5>it moving over time. So those and that fixing now

0:26:38.575 --> 0:26:41.575
<v Speaker 5>typically we used to nail them on with clouds years ago.

0:26:41.895 --> 0:26:44.535
<v Speaker 5>Now they're fixed in with a little text screw into

0:26:44.655 --> 0:26:51.015
<v Speaker 5>the framing. And so the brickie said he the project manager, Sam,

0:26:51.015 --> 0:26:55.295
<v Speaker 5>who's doing the texting, said look, the brickie said that,

0:26:55.575 --> 0:26:58.975
<v Speaker 5>And the supplier said that only thirty five millimeter screws

0:26:59.055 --> 0:27:02.575
<v Speaker 5>were required. The council had approved thirty five, yet it

0:27:02.655 --> 0:27:05.695
<v Speaker 5>stated that fifty milimeter ones were to be needed, and

0:27:05.695 --> 0:27:08.655
<v Speaker 5>you kind of go, why would they change it? And

0:27:08.695 --> 0:27:11.535
<v Speaker 5>then it seems like in this particular build they had

0:27:11.575 --> 0:27:14.615
<v Speaker 5>a rigid air barrier on the exterior of the framing.

0:27:14.735 --> 0:27:17.295
<v Speaker 5>So for many, many, many years, we used to do

0:27:17.375 --> 0:27:21.135
<v Speaker 5>timber framing with building paper or building wrap around the outside,

0:27:21.135 --> 0:27:24.695
<v Speaker 5>which is still used today, but in some cases we're

0:27:24.735 --> 0:27:27.615
<v Speaker 5>moving to having a rigid air barrier. Might be plywood,

0:27:27.695 --> 0:27:30.335
<v Speaker 5>might be five er cement sheet, might be os B board.

0:27:30.735 --> 0:27:34.335
<v Speaker 5>There's a number of different varieties, and so suddenly you've

0:27:34.375 --> 0:27:37.535
<v Speaker 5>got the timber framing and instead of having less than

0:27:37.575 --> 0:27:40.975
<v Speaker 5>a millimeter of building paper around the outside, you might

0:27:41.055 --> 0:27:45.815
<v Speaker 5>have nine, ten, possibly even twelve millimeters of a rigid

0:27:45.895 --> 0:27:49.095
<v Speaker 5>air barrier sheathing on the outside of the building. I

0:27:49.095 --> 0:27:53.175
<v Speaker 5>think what the council's picking up on, and this is correct,

0:27:53.295 --> 0:27:56.175
<v Speaker 5>is that what you need for that screw is thirty

0:27:56.215 --> 0:28:00.335
<v Speaker 5>five mili embedment into the timber framing. So if you

0:28:00.415 --> 0:28:03.375
<v Speaker 5>used a thirty five mil screw through ten mili of

0:28:03.775 --> 0:28:07.175
<v Speaker 5>rigid air barrier, then obviously it's only by twenty five

0:28:07.215 --> 0:28:11.095
<v Speaker 5>millimeters into the timber framing, hence the need for longer screws.

0:28:11.695 --> 0:28:13.695
<v Speaker 5>So it's not about the length of the screw it's

0:28:13.815 --> 0:28:16.855
<v Speaker 5>about what type of rigid air barrier you might have,

0:28:17.095 --> 0:28:19.455
<v Speaker 5>or simply the fact that you've got one on the outside.

0:28:20.135 --> 0:28:22.695
<v Speaker 5>The concern from Sam, who's the text, is hey, look,

0:28:22.735 --> 0:28:25.935
<v Speaker 5>if I had a bought built to the consented drawings,

0:28:26.375 --> 0:28:29.215
<v Speaker 5>then there would possibly be all sorts of liabilities to

0:28:29.295 --> 0:28:32.535
<v Speaker 5>me as the LBP, as the builder into the future.

0:28:34.295 --> 0:28:36.015
<v Speaker 5>I have to say, I mean, look, it is disappointing

0:28:36.055 --> 0:28:39.135
<v Speaker 5>if something is poorly drawn and then it goes through

0:28:39.215 --> 0:28:44.015
<v Speaker 5>consent at council and council don't pick up on these

0:28:44.135 --> 0:28:49.135
<v Speaker 5>kind of relatively straightforward building issues. That's an issue that's

0:28:49.175 --> 0:28:52.495
<v Speaker 5>not great because in the end, as the LBP, as

0:28:52.535 --> 0:28:55.255
<v Speaker 5>the builders on site, now what's kind of been hammered

0:28:55.255 --> 0:28:59.735
<v Speaker 5>into us. Pardon the pun is the plans are your

0:28:59.815 --> 0:29:04.295
<v Speaker 5>contract right. It's not our job as LBPS to challenge

0:29:04.575 --> 0:29:07.655
<v Speaker 5>or debate. It's our job to build exactly what's on

0:29:07.695 --> 0:29:11.135
<v Speaker 5>the plan. So if there's poor specification, poor detailing, in

0:29:11.175 --> 0:29:13.695
<v Speaker 5>this case using thirty five mil screws, when because of

0:29:13.735 --> 0:29:16.575
<v Speaker 5>the rigid air barrier you needed to use the longest screw.

0:29:16.655 --> 0:29:20.895
<v Speaker 5>You're right, that becomes quite a challenge for the contractors

0:29:20.975 --> 0:29:21.535
<v Speaker 5>on site.

0:29:21.615 --> 0:29:22.015
<v Speaker 6>It's not.

0:29:23.655 --> 0:29:25.975
<v Speaker 5>I don't like the situation. That's not our job to

0:29:26.055 --> 0:29:30.415
<v Speaker 5>find those things, but it just isn't. And all of

0:29:30.455 --> 0:29:33.415
<v Speaker 5>the things that we talk about as LBPS around contracts

0:29:33.455 --> 0:29:36.535
<v Speaker 5>and plans and so on, is you build what's on

0:29:36.575 --> 0:29:40.375
<v Speaker 5>the plan. But if the plan's wrong and you do

0:29:40.535 --> 0:29:43.495
<v Speaker 5>know that, then yes, I guess you have a responsibility

0:29:43.535 --> 0:29:46.215
<v Speaker 5>to point that out, either to the inspector or to

0:29:46.295 --> 0:29:49.935
<v Speaker 5>the client, certainly to the designer who missed that as

0:29:49.975 --> 0:29:52.695
<v Speaker 5>they were putting the designs together. You may have some

0:29:52.775 --> 0:29:55.095
<v Speaker 5>thoughts on that. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

0:29:55.175 --> 0:29:57.455
<v Speaker 5>number to call. A couple of other texts coming through

0:29:57.535 --> 0:30:01.815
<v Speaker 5>just with regard to various little projects. And someone likes

0:30:01.855 --> 0:30:05.575
<v Speaker 5>the song, that's always a pleasant surprise. Eight hundred eighty

0:30:05.695 --> 0:30:08.895
<v Speaker 5>ten eighty eight. As I mentioned, So, I went to

0:30:10.015 --> 0:30:14.015
<v Speaker 5>Hamilton on when was it, Thursday afternoon and had a

0:30:14.095 --> 0:30:18.695
<v Speaker 5>look at a three D printed house. And this is

0:30:18.735 --> 0:30:20.455
<v Speaker 5>one of those things. If you google you know three

0:30:20.535 --> 0:30:23.695
<v Speaker 5>D printed houses, you'll see lots of pictures from Europe

0:30:23.735 --> 0:30:27.815
<v Speaker 5>and the United States of America in particularly where they're

0:30:27.855 --> 0:30:31.695
<v Speaker 5>doing some of these sorts of things. A robot essentially

0:30:31.735 --> 0:30:37.135
<v Speaker 5>that extrudes a mortar a high strength forty MPa concrete

0:30:37.455 --> 0:30:41.295
<v Speaker 5>into and just lays it out, typically in a series

0:30:41.335 --> 0:30:45.735
<v Speaker 5>of layers and builds up wall segments, so it's interior

0:30:45.895 --> 0:30:49.775
<v Speaker 5>exterior of the wall is all printed in one go,

0:30:50.735 --> 0:30:53.655
<v Speaker 5>sometimes on site the New Zealand ones typically they're printed

0:30:53.735 --> 0:30:57.055
<v Speaker 5>in the factory. Went to the factory and had a

0:30:57.095 --> 0:30:59.015
<v Speaker 5>look at that, and then went to the show home,

0:30:59.055 --> 0:31:04.215
<v Speaker 5>which is just on the outskirts of Rotors CBD Rotakari

0:31:04.775 --> 0:31:07.655
<v Speaker 5>in a new subdivision there and had walk through the house.

0:31:08.415 --> 0:31:11.935
<v Speaker 5>Quite remarkable. If you're in the area, it's worth a drive.

0:31:12.735 --> 0:31:15.615
<v Speaker 5>Just look for Iconic three D and their show home

0:31:15.735 --> 0:31:18.055
<v Speaker 5>and then you'll be able to either drive by or

0:31:18.095 --> 0:31:21.215
<v Speaker 5>stop in and have a look again. It's and then

0:31:21.295 --> 0:31:25.535
<v Speaker 5>when I was at this mid Bild yes Or on Friday,

0:31:26.335 --> 0:31:27.735
<v Speaker 5>I was asked to say a few words, and one

0:31:27.775 --> 0:31:29.455
<v Speaker 5>of the things that I've started to think a bit

0:31:29.455 --> 0:31:33.575
<v Speaker 5>more about is that I think often we're too binary

0:31:33.775 --> 0:31:37.855
<v Speaker 5>in our approach to sort of building and solutions for

0:31:38.015 --> 0:31:43.215
<v Speaker 5>either affordability or production or speed or quality, that there's

0:31:43.255 --> 0:31:45.855
<v Speaker 5>going to be a multitude of solutions to all of

0:31:45.895 --> 0:31:48.935
<v Speaker 5>the challenges that the building industry faces. But typically we

0:31:49.335 --> 0:31:52.295
<v Speaker 5>get into this sort of binary thing where we go, well,

0:31:52.295 --> 0:31:54.735
<v Speaker 5>if I've got a good idea, then therefore every other

0:31:54.815 --> 0:31:58.895
<v Speaker 5>idea is a bad idea, and so we tend to

0:31:58.975 --> 0:32:01.735
<v Speaker 5>clash rather than collaborate. And I just look at all

0:32:01.735 --> 0:32:06.495
<v Speaker 5>of these different building topographies and methods that are out there,

0:32:06.495 --> 0:32:09.935
<v Speaker 5>going actually is probably room for all of these things

0:32:09.655 --> 0:32:14.175
<v Speaker 5>to exist in the same space that. Yeah, three D

0:32:14.295 --> 0:32:17.775
<v Speaker 5>printing can be part of the solution. Modular off site

0:32:17.815 --> 0:32:20.735
<v Speaker 5>construction is part of the solution. SIPs panels are part

0:32:20.775 --> 0:32:24.655
<v Speaker 5>of the solution. Conventional timber framing, but using really high

0:32:24.735 --> 0:32:28.295
<v Speaker 5>tech equipment is also part of the solution. As long

0:32:28.295 --> 0:32:30.495
<v Speaker 5>as we en met with better houses and more of them,

0:32:30.815 --> 0:32:32.415
<v Speaker 5>it's got to be a good thing. Oh eight hundred

0:32:32.535 --> 0:32:35.055
<v Speaker 5>eighty ten eighty the number to call Ryan A very

0:32:35.055 --> 0:32:36.015
<v Speaker 5>good morning to you.

0:32:36.935 --> 0:32:38.455
<v Speaker 10>Good morning, How are you well?

0:32:38.535 --> 0:32:39.415
<v Speaker 5>Thanks for Ryan? Yourself?

0:32:40.095 --> 0:32:47.175
<v Speaker 10>Not too there? It's there, really start, that's good time

0:32:47.215 --> 0:32:47.535
<v Speaker 10>to day.

0:32:48.135 --> 0:32:50.095
<v Speaker 5>Sure, how can I help? What's up?

0:32:50.935 --> 0:32:53.015
<v Speaker 10>You just want to We've spoke a couple of times

0:32:53.095 --> 0:32:58.615
<v Speaker 10>or four of that nightmare renovation up and up and awkward,

0:32:59.975 --> 0:33:03.095
<v Speaker 10>just said the final issue sort of come through. So

0:33:03.255 --> 0:33:08.735
<v Speaker 10>managed to change builders and had our last proto compliance

0:33:08.775 --> 0:33:11.855
<v Speaker 10>to come through after after six years and paid about

0:33:11.895 --> 0:33:13.295
<v Speaker 10>three times as much as what we.

0:33:13.375 --> 0:33:13.975
<v Speaker 6>What we needed to.

0:33:16.415 --> 0:33:19.495
<v Speaker 10>So I just wanted some advice on this. So if

0:33:19.575 --> 0:33:22.095
<v Speaker 10>you're probably going to laugh, because this is just the

0:33:22.335 --> 0:33:27.015
<v Speaker 10>icing on the cake. So we had the council come

0:33:27.055 --> 0:33:30.855
<v Speaker 10>around to do the FOSE Code compliant, the final code

0:33:30.935 --> 0:33:42.855
<v Speaker 10>compliance and the weather boards were installed incorrectly out the clouding.

0:33:43.015 --> 0:33:47.255
<v Speaker 10>So when we went back through, what had happened is

0:33:47.375 --> 0:33:51.215
<v Speaker 10>the has become obviously they get the specs off the

0:33:51.455 --> 0:33:55.135
<v Speaker 10>off the company that those those are weather boards. They

0:33:55.215 --> 0:33:59.455
<v Speaker 10>come and inspected it just after the building company had

0:33:59.495 --> 0:34:03.815
<v Speaker 10>started and said, actually, I don't know the specifics, but

0:34:03.935 --> 0:34:06.815
<v Speaker 10>it's not the tender it's supposed to be for Stephen Mill.

0:34:07.055 --> 0:34:10.775
<v Speaker 10>I think it might be the overlap. Yes, okay, and

0:34:11.895 --> 0:34:13.815
<v Speaker 10>then said look you just need to change that, but

0:34:13.935 --> 0:34:18.655
<v Speaker 10>it'll be fine. The build that continued didn't change it,

0:34:18.695 --> 0:34:23.215
<v Speaker 10>and the whole house at ten Mill and then it

0:34:23.295 --> 0:34:27.135
<v Speaker 10>was obviously it was it was standard, it was painted,

0:34:27.415 --> 0:34:31.695
<v Speaker 10>everything else was done and complete and carried on and

0:34:31.735 --> 0:34:35.055
<v Speaker 10>then yeah, we're sort of two and a half maybe

0:34:35.255 --> 0:34:37.695
<v Speaker 10>probably three years since that because of all the other

0:34:37.815 --> 0:34:44.255
<v Speaker 10>challenges and just because of for different reasons and you know,

0:34:44.375 --> 0:34:48.895
<v Speaker 10>financially not being able to Yeah, sure, next step legally

0:34:49.535 --> 0:34:51.215
<v Speaker 10>sometimes that as you know, that cost of it and

0:34:51.255 --> 0:34:54.655
<v Speaker 10>spoke at that cost more than actually fixing it if

0:34:54.695 --> 0:34:57.775
<v Speaker 10>it doesn't come up right. But we've found out that

0:34:57.855 --> 0:35:02.055
<v Speaker 10>we need to completely reclad, brand new, replating on the

0:35:02.135 --> 0:35:02.975
<v Speaker 10>on the house.

0:35:04.575 --> 0:35:08.975
<v Speaker 5>Savers. Okay, I mean that.

0:35:11.215 --> 0:35:15.255
<v Speaker 10>They said that the concept and the you know, the

0:35:15.295 --> 0:35:18.015
<v Speaker 10>instructions and that was contract that, et cetera, that this

0:35:18.255 --> 0:35:20.215
<v Speaker 10>was a pretty straightforward thing to go back to the

0:35:20.215 --> 0:35:25.215
<v Speaker 10>builder and and the lb T and so that you

0:35:25.295 --> 0:35:28.695
<v Speaker 10>haven't done those through the plans and there's the instructions.

0:35:29.855 --> 0:35:31.455
<v Speaker 10>What are your what are your thoughts?

0:35:31.855 --> 0:35:37.495
<v Speaker 5>Is it well, yeah, it may well be part of

0:35:37.535 --> 0:35:41.335
<v Speaker 5>me is just you know, dreadfully sorry and sad to

0:35:41.495 --> 0:35:44.015
<v Speaker 5>hear it and disappointed, I guess at the state of

0:35:44.055 --> 0:35:48.735
<v Speaker 5>our industry that something you know, as relatively straightforward as

0:35:48.895 --> 0:35:52.215
<v Speaker 5>as putting weather boards up. So, just without going into

0:35:52.255 --> 0:35:54.415
<v Speaker 5>too much detail around the type of product, is it

0:35:54.455 --> 0:35:57.415
<v Speaker 5>a conventional timber weather board or is it a weather

0:35:57.455 --> 0:36:01.575
<v Speaker 5>board system?

0:36:01.695 --> 0:36:06.815
<v Speaker 10>I'm not Toby, I'm not specialized enough to answer that

0:36:08.135 --> 0:36:11.255
<v Speaker 10>it's not the weatherboard company that's the problem. I've really

0:36:11.415 --> 0:36:13.455
<v Speaker 10>I know, I mentioned who they are. I've been really

0:36:13.455 --> 0:36:17.855
<v Speaker 10>good at supplying what we need. I'm pretty sure it's

0:36:17.855 --> 0:36:18.415
<v Speaker 10>a convention.

0:36:18.775 --> 0:36:19.415
<v Speaker 11>The board.

0:36:21.175 --> 0:36:24.935
<v Speaker 10>The square feet amount that was needed, and as part

0:36:24.975 --> 0:36:27.095
<v Speaker 10>of purchasing off them, they coming up to make sure

0:36:27.135 --> 0:36:28.295
<v Speaker 10>that it instilled.

0:36:28.415 --> 0:36:33.255
<v Speaker 5>Correctly, which is pretty good of them. What I might do, Ryan,

0:36:33.375 --> 0:36:36.535
<v Speaker 5>is before you go, if I get you to leave

0:36:36.615 --> 0:36:40.135
<v Speaker 5>the name of the product, then I can have a

0:36:40.175 --> 0:36:42.815
<v Speaker 5>look online see what the details are. I suppose. The

0:36:42.855 --> 0:36:45.935
<v Speaker 5>other thing that's disappointing about the conversation or the situation

0:36:46.055 --> 0:36:51.215
<v Speaker 5>rather is that like typically through the building process and

0:36:51.255 --> 0:36:54.855
<v Speaker 5>through the inspection process, you'll have a rap inspection before

0:36:54.855 --> 0:36:58.455
<v Speaker 5>the clouding is fixed, and then you'll have a cladding inspection. Right,

0:36:58.535 --> 0:37:01.655
<v Speaker 5>So typically the builder should get counsel to come out

0:37:01.695 --> 0:37:05.215
<v Speaker 5>and inspect the cladding before it gets painted right, and

0:37:05.615 --> 0:37:08.495
<v Speaker 5>at that point council should have picked up on things

0:37:08.575 --> 0:37:11.895
<v Speaker 5>like is there are the weather boards installed as per

0:37:11.895 --> 0:37:16.055
<v Speaker 5>the specifications, and it's you know, if there was a

0:37:16.215 --> 0:37:20.095
<v Speaker 5>scriber left off, or a box corner or you know,

0:37:20.095 --> 0:37:23.455
<v Speaker 5>a window hadn't been installed, you'd be able to see

0:37:23.535 --> 0:37:26.295
<v Speaker 5>what the cover of the weather board is quite simply right.

0:37:26.735 --> 0:37:32.135
<v Speaker 5>And most weather boards will have like a groove in

0:37:32.175 --> 0:37:35.975
<v Speaker 5>them that stops the capillary action right, And those grooves

0:37:36.015 --> 0:37:37.775
<v Speaker 5>typically there's one at the top of the board and

0:37:37.775 --> 0:37:39.855
<v Speaker 5>one at the bottom of the board on the inside face.

0:37:40.175 --> 0:37:41.375
<v Speaker 5>So at the top of the board it's on the

0:37:41.415 --> 0:37:45.095
<v Speaker 5>outside face on the lap. So at the bottom of

0:37:45.175 --> 0:37:47.495
<v Speaker 5>the board on the inside face there's a groove, and

0:37:47.535 --> 0:37:50.335
<v Speaker 5>those grooves typically should line up right. It's as simple

0:37:50.375 --> 0:37:54.215
<v Speaker 5>as that. So I wonder whether what has possibly happened

0:37:54.255 --> 0:37:58.575
<v Speaker 5>are they timberweather boards, yeah, okay, is that they haven't

0:37:58.615 --> 0:38:01.655
<v Speaker 5>done that, and that will come down to doing the spacings.

0:38:02.015 --> 0:38:04.775
<v Speaker 5>And perhaps the builder when they were laying out the

0:38:04.815 --> 0:38:07.335
<v Speaker 5>spacings decided that he wanted to try and achieve a

0:38:07.375 --> 0:38:10.375
<v Speaker 5>full line at the head, or he wanted a full

0:38:10.415 --> 0:38:12.695
<v Speaker 5>board at the safe or something like that, and thought, well,

0:38:12.735 --> 0:38:16.175
<v Speaker 5>I'll stretch out my spacings and then I can achieve that.

0:38:16.255 --> 0:38:19.935
<v Speaker 5>But that's then ended up meaning that the boards are

0:38:19.975 --> 0:38:23.135
<v Speaker 5>not installed as per the specifications and so the noncompliant.

0:38:23.495 --> 0:38:26.575
<v Speaker 5>But I would have really expected counsel to have been

0:38:26.615 --> 0:38:30.775
<v Speaker 5>able to identify that during the clouding inspection and it

0:38:30.815 --> 0:38:34.495
<v Speaker 5>should have failed then, right, the fact that it fails

0:38:34.535 --> 0:38:37.695
<v Speaker 5>its final inspection is really if that's the case, that's

0:38:37.735 --> 0:38:38.615
<v Speaker 5>really disappointing.

0:38:39.855 --> 0:38:44.295
<v Speaker 10>There is actually there is actually a note on that

0:38:44.455 --> 0:38:48.335
<v Speaker 10>as well. The council did and this had just happened

0:38:48.335 --> 0:38:52.015
<v Speaker 10>three times with council. They come out during the inspection. Yeah,

0:38:52.375 --> 0:38:57.495
<v Speaker 10>and they advised that something was done and correctly that

0:38:57.495 --> 0:39:02.295
<v Speaker 10>it needed to be redone and unbenign to us the council.

0:39:02.335 --> 0:39:06.215
<v Speaker 10>There's an argument site because this builder decided that they

0:39:06.495 --> 0:39:09.255
<v Speaker 10>or project managers so that they knew better. Yep, and

0:39:09.575 --> 0:39:11.655
<v Speaker 10>they kept going with the view that it wouldn't be

0:39:11.695 --> 0:39:14.655
<v Speaker 10>noticed later on because we spoke to some of.

0:39:14.575 --> 0:39:17.175
<v Speaker 5>The builders, right crikey.

0:39:17.375 --> 0:39:22.415
<v Speaker 10>Yes, so yeah, it's this isn't the first thing that

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<v Speaker 10>I suppose, it's the one. Now we're finally after five years,

0:39:27.655 --> 0:39:31.575
<v Speaker 10>got some of the it's been quite stressfully.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well look I can imagine Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>One hundred hundred and twenty thousand dollars I suppose renovation,

0:39:38.135 --> 0:39:40.655
<v Speaker 10>which at that time was like, look, it's we need

0:39:40.695 --> 0:39:43.935
<v Speaker 10>to do it. H it's in our own four hundred k. Gee,

0:39:44.335 --> 0:39:48.695
<v Speaker 10>we still don't have a house that's complying. Wow, and

0:39:48.735 --> 0:39:52.335
<v Speaker 10>we still have where we had a quote about eighty

0:39:52.375 --> 0:39:57.095
<v Speaker 10>five thousand dollars to completely we do perfectly re planting

0:39:57.255 --> 0:39:59.855
<v Speaker 10>and there's no reuse of the plaids because it was right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they'll be damaged beyond repair. Can I I'm very

0:40:06.815 --> 0:40:12.975
<v Speaker 5>aware at the time? Can I suggest one of the

0:40:12.975 --> 0:40:15.655
<v Speaker 5>things with the building code is that there's you know,

0:40:16.095 --> 0:40:18.935
<v Speaker 5>if you supply a product, right, you also supply the

0:40:18.975 --> 0:40:22.575
<v Speaker 5>details of how to install it, and then you warranty

0:40:22.615 --> 0:40:25.815
<v Speaker 5>the fact that if it's installed as per the conditions

0:40:25.895 --> 0:40:29.055
<v Speaker 5>or as per the warrant are the specifications, it will

0:40:29.135 --> 0:40:33.975
<v Speaker 5>work right. There is also in this sort of situation

0:40:34.535 --> 0:40:39.055
<v Speaker 5>the possibility that even though it's not done as per

0:40:39.135 --> 0:40:42.855
<v Speaker 5>the specifications, it may still work right, as in it'll

0:40:42.855 --> 0:40:47.855
<v Speaker 5>be weather tight. And so there's a performance standard as

0:40:47.895 --> 0:40:52.615
<v Speaker 5>well as kind of the technical standard. So lots of

0:40:52.695 --> 0:40:56.775
<v Speaker 5>things with buildings might not be compliant, but they might

0:40:56.855 --> 0:41:01.415
<v Speaker 5>still work. And I'm just wondering whether if you had

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<v Speaker 5>a discussion again, we're going back to building surveys, right,

0:41:04.135 --> 0:41:07.015
<v Speaker 5>who need who are experienced this? I tell you what,

0:41:07.095 --> 0:41:08.655
<v Speaker 5>just down the line we're going I'm going to run

0:41:08.695 --> 0:41:10.935
<v Speaker 5>into the news. We'll come back straight after and have

0:41:10.975 --> 0:41:12.815
<v Speaker 5>a look at what might be a solution for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're helping you get those DIY projects done right. The

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<v Speaker 1>resident Filder with Peter Wolfcamp call oh eight d eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>Youth talks'b.

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<v Speaker 5>You a news talks. He'd be Pete wolf Camp, resident

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<v Speaker 5>builder with you this morning right through till eight o'clock. Sorry,

0:41:29.295 --> 0:41:31.255
<v Speaker 5>let's let's stretch it out. We used to go to eight.

0:41:31.295 --> 0:41:34.535
<v Speaker 5>Now we go to nine because we've got rud climb

0:41:34.575 --> 0:41:38.095
<v Speaker 5>pass from eight thirty this morning, as always talking about

0:41:38.135 --> 0:41:40.215
<v Speaker 5>all things in the garden and the wonderful world of

0:41:40.255 --> 0:41:43.855
<v Speaker 5>bugs as well. At about twenty past seven, so not

0:41:43.895 --> 0:41:46.135
<v Speaker 5>too far away, we're going to get Jay Sharples from

0:41:46.215 --> 0:41:49.295
<v Speaker 5>Razine on the line. We can take your painting questions,

0:41:49.295 --> 0:41:51.895
<v Speaker 5>So if you've got any specific painting questions, text and

0:41:51.935 --> 0:41:55.735
<v Speaker 5>through to nine to nine two. And just prior to

0:41:55.735 --> 0:41:57.695
<v Speaker 5>the news we were talking with Ryan. This is an

0:41:57.735 --> 0:42:01.175
<v Speaker 5>issue with a well a renovation done in the last

0:42:01.215 --> 0:42:04.015
<v Speaker 5>couple of years, so we're not talking ancient history where

0:42:04.015 --> 0:42:08.415
<v Speaker 5>it seems the contractor has in store all the weather boards. Incorrectly,

0:42:09.775 --> 0:42:13.255
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying council should really have picked that up during

0:42:13.415 --> 0:42:16.255
<v Speaker 5>the cladding inspection, that's why you have one, and then

0:42:16.375 --> 0:42:18.935
<v Speaker 5>to find that at the end of it they won't

0:42:18.935 --> 0:42:22.375
<v Speaker 5>issue I presume they won't issue a CCC because it's

0:42:22.415 --> 0:42:27.375
<v Speaker 5>failed its final inspection, because the cladding was installed incorrectly. Ryan,

0:42:27.415 --> 0:42:29.975
<v Speaker 5>does that feel like a proper summary on my part

0:42:30.055 --> 0:42:33.055
<v Speaker 5>that somewhere along the line, obviously you had a clouding

0:42:33.135 --> 0:42:37.095
<v Speaker 5>inspection during the bill, during the renovation, and then a

0:42:37.295 --> 0:42:40.455
<v Speaker 5>final inspection councilor failed it, and because they failed it,

0:42:40.495 --> 0:42:41.695
<v Speaker 5>they won't issue a CCC.

0:42:42.855 --> 0:42:45.055
<v Speaker 10>Yes, So I actually just put a quick look through me.

0:42:45.495 --> 0:42:49.135
<v Speaker 10>So the council also picked it up as well as

0:42:49.175 --> 0:42:54.375
<v Speaker 10>the clouding company. Yep, it wasn't to spect because the

0:42:54.415 --> 0:42:58.175
<v Speaker 10>council obviously read the specifications as well. Yes, from the

0:42:58.215 --> 0:42:59.335
<v Speaker 10>clouding company.

0:42:59.335 --> 0:43:00.615
<v Speaker 5>Right, So they did pick it up.

0:43:00.695 --> 0:43:00.935
<v Speaker 6>Yep.

0:43:01.135 --> 0:43:05.775
<v Speaker 10>That's good, and that the builder continued on their way

0:43:06.735 --> 0:43:08.815
<v Speaker 10>installing it.

0:43:08.935 --> 0:43:11.375
<v Speaker 5>Not to speak, which again, if I take a step

0:43:11.415 --> 0:43:15.335
<v Speaker 5>back from your particular situation, just in general, one of

0:43:15.375 --> 0:43:18.255
<v Speaker 5>the things that I know has changed with the inspection

0:43:18.375 --> 0:43:21.335
<v Speaker 5>regime for most councils, and I'm most familiar with Auckland

0:43:21.335 --> 0:43:25.815
<v Speaker 5>City Council obviously, is that if something gets picked up

0:43:25.855 --> 0:43:30.775
<v Speaker 5>on an inspection, right, and you get a fail. You

0:43:30.895 --> 0:43:36.175
<v Speaker 5>can't get the next inspection anymore without resolving that issue.

0:43:36.215 --> 0:43:40.015
<v Speaker 5>So back in the day, you'd go, you know, you

0:43:40.095 --> 0:43:43.575
<v Speaker 5>might get at fail on cladding because there was a

0:43:43.575 --> 0:43:47.615
<v Speaker 5>head flashings missing, right, and because you went, well, look

0:43:47.655 --> 0:43:50.535
<v Speaker 5>the flashings on the truck. It'll be here on Tuesday

0:43:50.575 --> 0:43:53.855
<v Speaker 5>and today's Monday, and can I carry onlining and that? Yeah,

0:43:53.855 --> 0:43:58.855
<v Speaker 5>that's fine. Now they won't do that, seemingly so, But

0:43:59.055 --> 0:44:01.815
<v Speaker 5>it seems so in that sense. If they had have

0:44:01.855 --> 0:44:03.975
<v Speaker 5>had that policy at the time that you were building,

0:44:05.255 --> 0:44:07.415
<v Speaker 5>they wouldn't have been able to, for example, carry on

0:44:07.495 --> 0:44:11.375
<v Speaker 5>to plasterboard lining or install insulation or anything like that

0:44:11.735 --> 0:44:16.375
<v Speaker 5>and get any other inspections without first closing off the

0:44:16.415 --> 0:44:20.455
<v Speaker 5>fail of the previous inspection. Obviously that hasn't happened. You've

0:44:20.455 --> 0:44:21.895
<v Speaker 5>been able to get to the end of the job

0:44:22.095 --> 0:44:25.215
<v Speaker 5>with cladding still. But then see, I just think if

0:44:25.215 --> 0:44:27.295
<v Speaker 5>that's the case, and you've got a paper trail to

0:44:27.415 --> 0:44:30.655
<v Speaker 5>prove it, all of the responsibility goes back to the

0:44:30.695 --> 0:44:34.335
<v Speaker 5>builder to go you were told, here's the evidence. You

0:44:34.375 --> 0:44:36.415
<v Speaker 5>didn't fix it. Now you've got to fix it, and

0:44:36.455 --> 0:44:38.095
<v Speaker 5>that's your responsibility.

0:44:39.575 --> 0:44:43.655
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we've done it on a few pieces, and then

0:44:43.695 --> 0:44:49.175
<v Speaker 10>obviously they just throw it to the lawyers, probably knowing

0:44:49.215 --> 0:44:53.175
<v Speaker 10>that we've poured so much into it that to actually

0:44:53.255 --> 0:44:58.215
<v Speaker 10>see this through. Yeah, yeah, you know how it works.

0:44:58.215 --> 0:45:02.735
<v Speaker 10>You know they've got the insurance or sure, we have

0:45:02.855 --> 0:45:04.735
<v Speaker 10>to sort of save up for it, and you know

0:45:04.775 --> 0:45:10.055
<v Speaker 10>we're forty thousand into that and so far, so far

0:45:10.295 --> 0:45:15.655
<v Speaker 10>there's sort of no no results. And I suppose the

0:45:15.935 --> 0:45:20.135
<v Speaker 10>only we will work down the avenue with with this one.

0:45:20.975 --> 0:45:23.335
<v Speaker 5>Can I just ask another quick question that I really

0:45:23.335 --> 0:45:25.735
<v Speaker 5>do have to move on the have you tried building

0:45:25.895 --> 0:45:29.455
<v Speaker 5>mediation rather than than lawyers.

0:45:29.575 --> 0:45:34.295
<v Speaker 10>Let's say we did, and they they it might have

0:45:34.375 --> 0:45:37.175
<v Speaker 10>been because if a mediator came in and seen this,

0:45:37.535 --> 0:45:39.175
<v Speaker 10>the recommendation.

0:45:38.615 --> 0:45:40.055
<v Speaker 5>Would be in your favor.

0:45:40.095 --> 0:45:44.335
<v Speaker 10>It's quite it's quite obvious in our favor. So they

0:45:44.455 --> 0:45:49.735
<v Speaker 10>basically turned that down and said, if you want to

0:45:49.735 --> 0:45:51.095
<v Speaker 10>take us to court, take us to court.

0:45:52.055 --> 0:45:52.855
<v Speaker 5>Jeepers.

0:45:53.895 --> 0:45:56.575
<v Speaker 10>So that was the there's no there's no discussion around

0:45:56.615 --> 0:46:01.575
<v Speaker 10>mediation or anything. That's our lawyers to Look. Now, they're

0:46:01.575 --> 0:46:03.295
<v Speaker 10>going to they're going to throw they're going to just

0:46:03.295 --> 0:46:06.135
<v Speaker 10>try and cost you, cost you, cost you out of it.

0:46:07.295 --> 0:46:10.055
<v Speaker 10>I suppose this is one of two quick things. So

0:46:10.175 --> 0:46:13.375
<v Speaker 10>that what you said before in terms of so there's

0:46:13.695 --> 0:46:17.015
<v Speaker 10>this happened on as we went back through, this happened

0:46:17.055 --> 0:46:19.415
<v Speaker 10>on nine occasions that we didn't know about. So they

0:46:19.495 --> 0:46:23.255
<v Speaker 10>never let us know when there's a fail. So that's

0:46:23.295 --> 0:46:27.135
<v Speaker 10>obviously on the building that's with the council. That could

0:46:27.135 --> 0:46:29.255
<v Speaker 10>have got glossed over some Most of the times they

0:46:29.295 --> 0:46:32.295
<v Speaker 10>sort of fixed it. Other times it didn't. But when

0:46:32.335 --> 0:46:36.495
<v Speaker 10>you mentioned that, look it might be water type, that's

0:46:36.535 --> 0:46:42.975
<v Speaker 10>also what the but they mentioned as well. Our worry

0:46:43.015 --> 0:46:49.255
<v Speaker 10>was on that that had conflicting I suppose advice because

0:46:49.255 --> 0:46:52.895
<v Speaker 10>we do believe it is water type. Ye, which is good.

0:46:53.215 --> 0:46:56.175
<v Speaker 10>Is that that then sits on the on the record

0:46:56.335 --> 0:47:00.495
<v Speaker 10>for when we resell the property and it puts a

0:47:00.495 --> 0:47:03.375
<v Speaker 10>bit of a I suppose a highlight on their claim

0:47:03.535 --> 0:47:06.255
<v Speaker 10>being installed and correctly, And that's the worry.

0:47:06.815 --> 0:47:11.295
<v Speaker 5>I guess it's it's a maybe a practical solution to

0:47:11.335 --> 0:47:13.655
<v Speaker 5>a really difficult problem. Because the you know, the big

0:47:13.695 --> 0:47:16.175
<v Speaker 5>fixes rip all the cladding off and do it correctly.

0:47:17.175 --> 0:47:19.295
<v Speaker 5>The second fix is to go, actually, you know what,

0:47:19.975 --> 0:47:22.615
<v Speaker 5>it actually still works despite the fact that it's not

0:47:23.015 --> 0:47:28.255
<v Speaker 5>technically installed correctly. And you know, do you accept the

0:47:28.375 --> 0:47:30.575
<v Speaker 5>risk that, yes, that will sit on the property file.

0:47:30.575 --> 0:47:34.215
<v Speaker 5>It's there for disclosure, and you hope that people will

0:47:34.295 --> 0:47:37.495
<v Speaker 5>understand it. Again, you know, if it's a professional opinion

0:47:37.615 --> 0:47:42.095
<v Speaker 5>offered by a suitably experienced person like a registered building surveyor,

0:47:42.495 --> 0:47:49.375
<v Speaker 5>then that should reassure most people. I presume that the

0:47:49.375 --> 0:47:52.215
<v Speaker 5>person that you're dealing with, the contractor who undertook the work,

0:47:52.375 --> 0:47:53.215
<v Speaker 5>is an LBP.

0:47:54.375 --> 0:48:00.455
<v Speaker 10>They are an LBP, right, you'd be wanting.

0:48:00.135 --> 0:48:02.535
<v Speaker 5>To take them straight to the disciplinary board.

0:48:03.855 --> 0:48:06.255
<v Speaker 10>Yes, And that's the that's the part that we were

0:48:06.535 --> 0:48:10.215
<v Speaker 10>through the moment what sort of go down in order

0:48:10.295 --> 0:48:15.655
<v Speaker 10>for you know, not to put the business into solignty

0:48:15.815 --> 0:48:19.455
<v Speaker 10>or liquidation, and yeah, that starts something else that you know,

0:48:19.695 --> 0:48:20.255
<v Speaker 10>this sort of thing.

0:48:21.095 --> 0:48:24.615
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I do, but remember to be a licensed building

0:48:24.695 --> 0:48:29.095
<v Speaker 5>practitioner as I am. It's it's my name. I'm the

0:48:29.175 --> 0:48:31.375
<v Speaker 5>licensed building practitioner, not my company.

0:48:32.215 --> 0:48:35.095
<v Speaker 10>Okay, okay, So be that in mind.

0:48:35.615 --> 0:48:39.415
<v Speaker 5>Look, it's a dreadfully sad situation and I can only

0:48:39.455 --> 0:48:41.695
<v Speaker 5>imagine the stresses it's put you and your family under.

0:48:42.095 --> 0:48:44.255
<v Speaker 5>So I hope there's there's some resolution for you.

0:48:45.175 --> 0:48:45.375
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:48:46.135 --> 0:48:49.135
<v Speaker 10>The worst thing with this there was all happened during

0:48:49.135 --> 0:48:53.055
<v Speaker 10>a time where both my my wife both and my

0:48:53.095 --> 0:48:57.295
<v Speaker 10>wife's parents passed away over a month period. And you've

0:48:57.775 --> 0:49:00.855
<v Speaker 10>told you that before, and we had to just trust

0:49:01.095 --> 0:49:03.535
<v Speaker 10>that I would keep on going because we were down. Yes,

0:49:03.615 --> 0:49:06.815
<v Speaker 10>of course after after them, yep, and come back to

0:49:06.855 --> 0:49:10.895
<v Speaker 10>this absolute myss basically love focus on the family. And

0:49:11.215 --> 0:49:13.535
<v Speaker 10>that was a f year ago now, and that's when

0:49:13.575 --> 0:49:16.655
<v Speaker 10>it was all all these massive bills started coming through,

0:49:16.695 --> 0:49:17.775
<v Speaker 10>but nothing on the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I wish you all the best.

0:49:22.055 --> 0:49:22.175
<v Speaker 6>Thing.

0:49:22.855 --> 0:49:23.855
<v Speaker 5>You take care very much.

0:49:24.695 --> 0:49:26.415
<v Speaker 10>Look into the painting. Painting as well.

0:49:26.455 --> 0:49:28.855
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, okay, you take care right, all the best

0:49:29.055 --> 0:49:32.055
<v Speaker 5>follow the Uh we're going to be talking painting shortly

0:49:32.615 --> 0:49:34.415
<v Speaker 5>before then, Chris, greetings to you.

0:49:35.935 --> 0:49:39.055
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, get a better beautiful day here in Orban.

0:49:41.335 --> 0:49:43.295
<v Speaker 5>Look out the window. Yes, I can confirm that.

0:49:45.735 --> 0:49:48.495
<v Speaker 12>Hey, I got a question about a pagola on a

0:49:48.855 --> 0:49:57.655
<v Speaker 12>second story rental property. So the underneath the polar deck

0:49:58.175 --> 0:50:02.095
<v Speaker 12>it's starting to leak and get into the garage of

0:50:02.175 --> 0:50:08.215
<v Speaker 12>the under under floor. Yes, yeah, construction now that the

0:50:08.295 --> 0:50:12.695
<v Speaker 12>goolar is overhead that the deck, the deck was had

0:50:12.735 --> 0:50:17.215
<v Speaker 12>that bitch mole sort of ceiling, so over time that's

0:50:17.415 --> 0:50:20.175
<v Speaker 12>obviously failed out to try and source the leak and

0:50:20.175 --> 0:50:22.215
<v Speaker 12>get into the leak with their major job, and did

0:50:22.255 --> 0:50:24.735
<v Speaker 12>to take out a corner of a room and ranch

0:50:24.775 --> 0:50:27.455
<v Speaker 12>siders and all sorts of stuff. But I'm thinking about

0:50:27.495 --> 0:50:33.895
<v Speaker 12>just putting the polycarbinate roofing over the pre exact thing

0:50:34.015 --> 0:50:37.855
<v Speaker 12>structure of the goola, just to remove the water from

0:50:37.895 --> 0:50:40.935
<v Speaker 12>actually getting onto the deck. I couldn't find anything that.

0:50:41.415 --> 0:50:46.015
<v Speaker 12>I couldn't find anything in the council plans about sort

0:50:46.015 --> 0:50:55.095
<v Speaker 12>of the roofing square footage associated tool the first floor building,

0:50:55.775 --> 0:51:03.775
<v Speaker 12>noting that the deck is already probably covering the square footage. Yeah,

0:51:03.855 --> 0:51:05.095
<v Speaker 12>any rules associated with.

0:51:05.095 --> 0:51:09.095
<v Speaker 5>That, I'd have to go through and check as well. Because,

0:51:09.095 --> 0:51:12.415
<v Speaker 5>of course, there have been changes to the types of

0:51:12.455 --> 0:51:15.175
<v Speaker 5>structures that you can build under Sedule one of the

0:51:15.175 --> 0:51:17.855
<v Speaker 5>Building Act, which means you may not necessarily require a

0:51:17.895 --> 0:51:20.975
<v Speaker 5>building consent, but prior to those changes, and it might

0:51:21.015 --> 0:51:24.455
<v Speaker 5>still be active today. Typically, if you add a roof

0:51:24.655 --> 0:51:29.535
<v Speaker 5>to something like a pagoda or a perglar, right, that

0:51:29.935 --> 0:51:33.255
<v Speaker 5>typically triggers the requirement for a building consent, And I

0:51:33.415 --> 0:51:36.735
<v Speaker 5>don't know that that's changed. So while you've got this

0:51:36.975 --> 0:51:41.775
<v Speaker 5>open structure, the structure is there, but it's not roofed

0:51:41.815 --> 0:51:44.255
<v Speaker 5>in any way. If you were to add a roof

0:51:44.455 --> 0:51:47.775
<v Speaker 5>like clear light, that would typically require a building consent.

0:51:47.815 --> 0:51:49.615
<v Speaker 5>And there's a couple of things around that. One is

0:51:50.615 --> 0:51:55.095
<v Speaker 5>kind of a general thing that we're concerned about building creep. Right,

0:51:55.175 --> 0:51:58.815
<v Speaker 5>So you know, you've got this little balcony, then you've

0:51:58.815 --> 0:52:01.535
<v Speaker 5>got the framing above it, then you put a roof

0:52:01.535 --> 0:52:04.135
<v Speaker 5>on it. Then someone changes that roof a solid roof,

0:52:04.175 --> 0:52:06.455
<v Speaker 5>and then they close in the side and hey, pret

0:52:06.655 --> 0:52:09.455
<v Speaker 5>becomes a fourth bedroom. Right, there's that sort of thing.

0:52:10.095 --> 0:52:13.295
<v Speaker 5>There's also a practical thing that your purglar, while it's

0:52:13.295 --> 0:52:15.655
<v Speaker 5>got no roofing on it, doesn't have to worry about

0:52:15.735 --> 0:52:18.655
<v Speaker 5>uplift and things like that. If you did put roofing

0:52:18.695 --> 0:52:21.335
<v Speaker 5>on it, you then need to ensure that all of

0:52:21.375 --> 0:52:24.495
<v Speaker 5>the fixings are sufficient to prevent uplift in the event

0:52:24.535 --> 0:52:27.855
<v Speaker 5>of a storm. You're also capturing storm water. You've got

0:52:27.855 --> 0:52:30.335
<v Speaker 5>to divert that away. You've got to control storm water,

0:52:30.535 --> 0:52:32.815
<v Speaker 5>not just have it pouring onto the ground, et cetera,

0:52:32.855 --> 0:52:37.735
<v Speaker 5>et cetera. So I think that chances are adding roofing

0:52:37.815 --> 0:52:41.495
<v Speaker 5>to your goda or purgla is going to require building

0:52:41.495 --> 0:52:45.695
<v Speaker 5>consent with regard to the issue around the waterproofing. When

0:52:45.735 --> 0:52:47.615
<v Speaker 5>you say is it a bitumen type, are you're talking

0:52:47.655 --> 0:52:53.975
<v Speaker 5>buttanyl roofing or butteanyl waterproofing or a butteanol. Yeah, it

0:52:54.095 --> 0:52:56.655
<v Speaker 5>looks that might just have reached the end of its life.

0:52:57.295 --> 0:53:00.815
<v Speaker 5>If it's firm and sound, there are coatings that can

0:53:00.895 --> 0:53:04.335
<v Speaker 5>be applied that will add a protective layer over the top.

0:53:04.695 --> 0:53:07.495
<v Speaker 5>But in most cases, I think if it's reached the

0:53:07.575 --> 0:53:10.415
<v Speaker 5>end of its practical life, then it's a case of

0:53:10.575 --> 0:53:15.575
<v Speaker 5>removing it and replacing it with either a new butteanol

0:53:15.815 --> 0:53:20.935
<v Speaker 5>or replacing with a different type of waterproof membrane. And then, unfortunately,

0:53:21.015 --> 0:53:23.495
<v Speaker 5>sometimes when we pull those out, we discover that the

0:53:23.535 --> 0:53:27.335
<v Speaker 5>substrate is not quite the right material. You know, I've

0:53:27.375 --> 0:53:30.895
<v Speaker 5>seen it with untreated twelve mil ply fixed down with

0:53:31.015 --> 0:53:33.975
<v Speaker 5>clouds right, so it all starts to move and twist

0:53:34.055 --> 0:53:37.575
<v Speaker 5>and or the falls not right, or the scuppers aren't right,

0:53:38.015 --> 0:53:40.015
<v Speaker 5>and then of course all of that buttant ole goes

0:53:40.095 --> 0:53:46.455
<v Speaker 5>up underneath your cladding or is into the sliding doors

0:53:46.455 --> 0:53:48.015
<v Speaker 5>that might come out, so you've got to take the

0:53:48.055 --> 0:53:50.895
<v Speaker 5>sliding doors out. It does end up or could become

0:53:50.975 --> 0:53:52.135
<v Speaker 5>quite a big issue, couldn't it.

0:53:53.455 --> 0:53:56.775
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, Yeah, yeah, okay, well, hey, thanks very much for

0:53:56.815 --> 0:53:58.775
<v Speaker 12>that guid no.

0:53:58.655 --> 0:54:00.375
<v Speaker 5>Trouble at all, all the very best to you. Take

0:54:00.415 --> 0:54:03.215
<v Speaker 5>care of Chris, all the best. Then we're going to

0:54:03.255 --> 0:54:07.335
<v Speaker 5>get Jay up in just a moment. We've got a

0:54:07.335 --> 0:54:09.575
<v Speaker 5>bunch of painting questions. Feel free to add some in.

0:54:09.655 --> 0:54:12.015
<v Speaker 5>I think we'll have time eight hundred and eighty ten

0:54:12.175 --> 0:54:14.655
<v Speaker 5>eighty if you want to call for some building questions

0:54:14.695 --> 0:54:18.055
<v Speaker 5>a little bit later on the show, remember at eight thirty.

0:54:18.095 --> 0:54:21.335
<v Speaker 5>As always we're into the garden with recline past. But

0:54:21.375 --> 0:54:23.935
<v Speaker 5>if you've got any specific painting questions right now, text

0:54:23.935 --> 0:54:26.575
<v Speaker 5>them through. Jay's going to be with us in just

0:54:26.615 --> 0:54:30.655
<v Speaker 5>a moment. Nine to nine two for the text and

0:54:30.735 --> 0:54:34.375
<v Speaker 5>a quick text that's also come in. Would you PVC

0:54:34.615 --> 0:54:38.295
<v Speaker 5>double glazing be better for warmth retention than thermally broken

0:54:38.415 --> 0:54:41.495
<v Speaker 5>aluminium double glazed or would the margins be too little

0:54:41.535 --> 0:54:45.015
<v Speaker 5>to matter much? I'm in Wellington. Thanks very much for

0:54:45.055 --> 0:54:49.215
<v Speaker 5>your text. Look, there's plenty of evidence that you can

0:54:49.375 --> 0:54:55.935
<v Speaker 5>find online, you know, testing on different types of window frames.

0:54:56.055 --> 0:55:02.135
<v Speaker 5>So whether it's standard aluminum joinery, do thermally broken aluminium joinery,

0:55:02.295 --> 0:55:06.215
<v Speaker 5>uPVC joinery, timber joinery. That's basically the four types of

0:55:06.335 --> 0:55:09.655
<v Speaker 5>varieties that we've got for our aluminium or our window frames,

0:55:10.335 --> 0:55:13.895
<v Speaker 5>and then you can see how they work with if

0:55:13.935 --> 0:55:16.615
<v Speaker 5>you put the same type of double glazing in each

0:55:16.695 --> 0:55:19.895
<v Speaker 5>of those, what the therm, what the R value is

0:55:20.015 --> 0:55:24.215
<v Speaker 5>or it's actually in verse, what the actual performance is

0:55:24.295 --> 0:55:30.135
<v Speaker 5>and look typically UPBC performs better and even small margins

0:55:30.175 --> 0:55:32.415
<v Speaker 5>make a difference. So yeah, it's worth having a look.

0:55:32.935 --> 0:55:36.375
<v Speaker 5>There's plenty of information online to see how each of

0:55:36.415 --> 0:55:41.255
<v Speaker 5>those different windows system perform in terms of warmth retention,

0:55:41.615 --> 0:55:43.535
<v Speaker 5>and it will make a big difference, So check it

0:55:43.575 --> 0:55:45.855
<v Speaker 5>out online or have a look at the Stark Windows

0:55:45.895 --> 0:55:48.735
<v Speaker 5>website as well. They'll have some information there. It is

0:55:49.615 --> 0:55:52.895
<v Speaker 5>twenty one minutes after seven. We'll take short break. Then

0:55:52.895 --> 0:55:55.615
<v Speaker 5>we'll talk to Jay about all things painting. If you've

0:55:55.615 --> 0:55:57.895
<v Speaker 5>got a question, text it through now nine to nine

0:55:57.975 --> 0:56:00.175
<v Speaker 5>two met it God.

0:56:00.255 --> 0:56:03.255
<v Speaker 1>Was but maybe called Pete first. D you Wolfcab the

0:56:03.375 --> 0:56:05.335
<v Speaker 1>resident builder News Talk said, be.

0:56:06.815 --> 0:56:09.495
<v Speaker 5>You're right, Oh, we're into it. We're talking painting, and

0:56:09.895 --> 0:56:12.855
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. For me, summer is always about painting,

0:56:13.615 --> 0:56:17.335
<v Speaker 5>and that's my memory of childhood that seemed to spend

0:56:17.615 --> 0:56:20.655
<v Speaker 5>every summer painting the outside of the house. Whether he

0:56:20.695 --> 0:56:22.975
<v Speaker 5>did it. We did a sort of a wall a

0:56:23.095 --> 0:56:25.295
<v Speaker 5>year and he just kept on working his way around.

0:56:25.735 --> 0:56:29.255
<v Speaker 5>But to me, it feels like summertime is painting time.

0:56:29.455 --> 0:56:31.015
<v Speaker 5>We know that you can paint all year round, but

0:56:31.175 --> 0:56:34.815
<v Speaker 5>summertime feels like painting time. Jay, good morning, Good morning.

0:56:34.855 --> 0:56:35.615
<v Speaker 6>How are you morning.

0:56:35.655 --> 0:56:38.495
<v Speaker 5>I'm very well, thank you. And we're into that stage

0:56:38.495 --> 0:56:41.775
<v Speaker 5>where you know the weather's a bit more settled kind

0:56:41.855 --> 0:56:43.575
<v Speaker 5>of or at least if it's going to be bad,

0:56:43.575 --> 0:56:47.855
<v Speaker 5>we know it's coming, so you can plan and get

0:56:47.935 --> 0:56:50.775
<v Speaker 5>into some outdoor painting at this time of year.

0:56:52.015 --> 0:56:56.375
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely. Let's say it's all about planning, yes, for

0:56:56.935 --> 0:57:00.055
<v Speaker 4>exterior or interior, to sort of think about how you're

0:57:00.055 --> 0:57:03.055
<v Speaker 4>going to attack it this time of year. You really

0:57:03.095 --> 0:57:05.495
<v Speaker 4>don't want to be painting in direct sunlight. Yes, that

0:57:05.615 --> 0:57:10.135
<v Speaker 4>means starting earlier or working in the shaded areas. Just

0:57:10.135 --> 0:57:11.655
<v Speaker 4>just think about how you're going to do it and

0:57:11.815 --> 0:57:14.535
<v Speaker 4>attack that day. And obviously if you're outside, remember to

0:57:14.895 --> 0:57:16.295
<v Speaker 4>have put on some sunscreen of word.

0:57:16.415 --> 0:57:22.495
<v Speaker 5>Yeah jeez, yes, something I might have forgotten the other day. Anyway,

0:57:25.255 --> 0:57:27.935
<v Speaker 5>So if you've got a painting question, feel through, tax

0:57:28.015 --> 0:57:29.815
<v Speaker 5>them through. But we've got something to get underway with

0:57:30.055 --> 0:57:32.575
<v Speaker 5>anyway here we go. Number one question for Jay, we're

0:57:32.615 --> 0:57:35.815
<v Speaker 5>painting our house a different color in wanting to change

0:57:35.815 --> 0:57:37.815
<v Speaker 5>the color of the front door. Now it's a powder

0:57:37.855 --> 0:57:41.575
<v Speaker 5>code at the aluminium door in each prime if they

0:57:41.575 --> 0:57:44.775
<v Speaker 5>did want to have a go themselves yet.

0:57:44.735 --> 0:57:50.495
<v Speaker 4>So we've like our best system would be our high

0:57:50.575 --> 0:57:53.935
<v Speaker 4>performance system, which is for industrial codings, which would be

0:57:53.975 --> 0:57:57.575
<v Speaker 4>on the Coke two to one and Eurocraal four hundred

0:57:57.615 --> 0:58:03.255
<v Speaker 4>series which are both two pots yep. So ideally you'd

0:58:03.295 --> 0:58:06.135
<v Speaker 4>want to be heading into the shop and just having

0:58:06.135 --> 0:58:08.415
<v Speaker 4>it to staff and make sure you're comfortable with it.

0:58:08.735 --> 0:58:08.975
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

0:58:09.015 --> 0:58:12.695
<v Speaker 4>Alternately, we do have single pack options which would be

0:58:13.495 --> 0:58:17.175
<v Speaker 4>buying a latch and probably quick dry over the top yep,

0:58:17.375 --> 0:58:21.255
<v Speaker 4>before if the luscicrel or namacrill, depending on the gloss

0:58:21.335 --> 0:58:24.975
<v Speaker 4>level you were you were after, right, but.

0:58:24.935 --> 0:58:26.855
<v Speaker 5>It can be tricky and I guess you know you've

0:58:26.855 --> 0:58:29.215
<v Speaker 5>got to be realistic about if you're going to do

0:58:29.255 --> 0:58:29.815
<v Speaker 5>it yourself.

0:58:29.895 --> 0:58:35.855
<v Speaker 4>Then it's also like powder coated aluminium smooth. Yes, so

0:58:36.135 --> 0:58:38.815
<v Speaker 4>as soon as you start brushing or rolling, you're going

0:58:38.935 --> 0:58:42.255
<v Speaker 4>to create a different texture and different looks, so just

0:58:42.335 --> 0:58:44.775
<v Speaker 4>be aware of that before you're doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, absolutely right now here we go, morning, Pete and

0:58:50.935 --> 0:58:53.815
<v Speaker 5>j Could you ask Jay about staining a large pine deck.

0:58:53.855 --> 0:58:56.695
<v Speaker 5>It's four years old, never been oil stained or painted.

0:58:57.055 --> 0:58:59.855
<v Speaker 5>I've also got a new deck to stain. What razine

0:58:59.855 --> 0:59:04.015
<v Speaker 5>product do you recommend for the lightest color penetrating oil

0:59:04.255 --> 0:59:07.015
<v Speaker 5>stain so they don't want to go, you know, too

0:59:07.095 --> 0:59:10.615
<v Speaker 5>yellow or too orangey? What do you what are your thoughts?

0:59:10.735 --> 0:59:16.655
<v Speaker 4>So on my deck, I use the Solvent Born Woodsman, Yes, Woodman,

0:59:16.855 --> 0:59:22.215
<v Speaker 4>Soborn Woodow, and it's tinted to the color natural. Prior

0:59:22.255 --> 0:59:24.895
<v Speaker 4>to that, I'd been using the furnit Rasime furniture and

0:59:24.935 --> 0:59:29.535
<v Speaker 4>decking oil, which is a bit more yellow. But I

0:59:29.695 --> 0:59:32.335
<v Speaker 4>just find the naturals a little bit more subtle.

0:59:32.575 --> 0:59:35.015
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think Diane's keen to stay away from There's

0:59:35.055 --> 0:59:36.615
<v Speaker 5>nothing wrong with the yellow if you like it, but

0:59:36.615 --> 0:59:37.935
<v Speaker 5>if you want to stay away from it.

0:59:39.655 --> 0:59:42.335
<v Speaker 4>The thing. I'd also recommend Kee sing out to multiple

0:59:42.375 --> 0:59:43.455
<v Speaker 4>housards in the last week.

0:59:44.015 --> 0:59:46.895
<v Speaker 10>Keep a record of what you use, yes, or if you're.

0:59:46.735 --> 0:59:50.655
<v Speaker 4>Buying new timber and it's coming pre coated, just make

0:59:50.695 --> 0:59:53.735
<v Speaker 4>sure you've got a record of that because it can

0:59:54.055 --> 0:59:55.775
<v Speaker 4>help save issues in the long run.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, actually Following on from that, the next text is about, hey, team,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to stain my queeler deck back to something

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<v Speaker 5>close to the color it initially, what's the best stain

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<v Speaker 5>to use and is there a product that means you

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<v Speaker 5>don't have to redo it too often? That's from Lance.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess the issue is you need to know what

1:00:15.295 --> 1:00:17.415
<v Speaker 5>is on the already if there's already a coating.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's sort of if you Ideally, if you know

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<v Speaker 4>what's already on there, you can keep using the same product, right,

1:00:23.935 --> 1:00:26.615
<v Speaker 4>you can check that any new products are compatible with

1:00:26.655 --> 1:00:30.975
<v Speaker 4>what's already on there. Our recommendation for Quila Dex, we've

1:00:30.975 --> 1:00:34.535
<v Speaker 4>got a queler timber stake which brings back the natural color.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what I'd recommend. But like if you're never

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<v Speaker 4>not sure what's on air, tri test area. We've got

1:00:42.375 --> 1:00:45.655
<v Speaker 4>the test pots of the majority of bird stains, if

1:00:45.735 --> 1:00:47.975
<v Speaker 4>not by a small amount, and just trying in an

1:00:47.975 --> 1:00:49.175
<v Speaker 4>inconspicuous area.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Now this is this is one about preparation. In

1:00:54.575 --> 1:00:59.135
<v Speaker 5>this sense, they're painting over some old nineteen sixties asbestos cladding,

1:00:59.175 --> 1:01:01.255
<v Speaker 5>so at least they've identified that some of it's a

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<v Speaker 5>bit moldy. What sort of preparation, and I would jump

1:01:04.735 --> 1:01:07.015
<v Speaker 5>in here straight away and go what you don't want

1:01:07.055 --> 1:01:09.735
<v Speaker 5>to be doing is hitting it with sanding and scraping.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're talking about a chemical prewash, aren't we.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But even that, I think you've got to be

1:01:16.975 --> 1:01:20.855
<v Speaker 4>be careful with it. All depends on the condition of

1:01:20.935 --> 1:01:28.335
<v Speaker 4>the surface. Any anything you do scrape or anything that

1:01:28.375 --> 1:01:31.975
<v Speaker 4>you're not you meant to contain. So if you're washing

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<v Speaker 4>it with a soft wash and it's bringing some of

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<v Speaker 4>the coating off, you've got to contain that. Yes, I'm

1:01:37.455 --> 1:01:41.615
<v Speaker 4>not certain around if there's any legislation about containing the

1:01:41.615 --> 1:01:45.895
<v Speaker 4>water that's coming off, well, I suppose it all goes

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<v Speaker 4>on the actual condition of the asbestos coated substrate. Obviously

1:01:53.895 --> 1:01:57.855
<v Speaker 4>there's a coating on there, so any washing or preparation

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing the coating you're not actually doing to the

1:02:01.175 --> 1:02:05.095
<v Speaker 4>asbestos substrate. It's different, I suppose if it's uncoated.

1:02:05.775 --> 1:02:09.215
<v Speaker 5>Yes, So if it's got let's assume that there's some

1:02:09.335 --> 1:02:12.655
<v Speaker 5>paint on the air which has started to deteriorate slightly.

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<v Speaker 5>But if what the concern I think that both of

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<v Speaker 5>us would have is that if you were to sort

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<v Speaker 5>of vigorously agitate the surface to clean it, and then

1:02:21.935 --> 1:02:25.535
<v Speaker 5>you release those fibers. Then those fibers should they fall

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<v Speaker 5>on the ground and it dries, then they become from

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<v Speaker 5>it or yeah, that's right, Yeah, that is the issue.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably worth getting some decent advice on that, but maybe

1:02:35.935 --> 1:02:39.175
<v Speaker 5>the gentlest possible approach and then just paint over it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a bad way to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and keep colors light. Yeah, don't go dark so

1:02:45.415 --> 1:02:49.095
<v Speaker 4>absorbs more heat, small bubbles and blisters, which then becomes

1:02:49.095 --> 1:02:52.175
<v Speaker 4>an issue you already knowestos and you can't you're limited

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<v Speaker 4>to the preparation you can do.

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<v Speaker 5>Particularly I guess where you're doing a paint coating over

1:02:57.375 --> 1:03:01.975
<v Speaker 5>an existing one, that adhesion there is going you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to have a lot more problems with really really dark

1:03:04.175 --> 1:03:07.095
<v Speaker 5>colors in terms of it adhering to substruct to the

1:03:07.135 --> 1:03:07.535
<v Speaker 5>old pain.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but going dark and you absorb more heat, which

1:03:11.455 --> 1:03:16.535
<v Speaker 4>puts more stress on the underlying coating, which or the

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<v Speaker 4>on a subject that's potentially quite old, and you could

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<v Speaker 4>just lose adherence and then it starts becoming more of

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<v Speaker 4>an issue for preparation and fixing it.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, that's an intriguing one. Some people who have a

1:03:30.535 --> 1:03:33.815
<v Speaker 5>stone cottage as an out of stone and central Otago.

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<v Speaker 5>We like the look when the stone is wet. Is

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<v Speaker 5>there something that we can apply to have that look

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<v Speaker 5>all of the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I suppose we've got different concrete clear We've got a

1:03:47.135 --> 1:03:55.655
<v Speaker 4>concrete clear wet look. Yep, there's potentially concrete stain. But

1:03:56.375 --> 1:04:00.895
<v Speaker 4>it'll be trying some different areas in seeing. I mean,

1:04:01.295 --> 1:04:05.095
<v Speaker 4>depending on how absorbent the stone is. If it's not

1:04:05.255 --> 1:04:10.575
<v Speaker 4>very poorous, I'm not sure how well the spaces were penetrating.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure how well the concrete clear wet look

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<v Speaker 4>would look or go. Yeah, it also puts a bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a sheene on it, and I would.

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<v Speaker 5>Have just a word of caution around. You know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>these claddings work well because they absorb a little bit

1:04:27.415 --> 1:04:29.535
<v Speaker 5>of moisture and then the moisture drains out. And so

1:04:29.655 --> 1:04:32.335
<v Speaker 5>if you then put a barrier that prevents the moisture

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<v Speaker 5>being released from the stone, do you have an issue there?

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<v Speaker 5>So it might be that you just go outside and

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<v Speaker 5>look at your house on rainy days and don't go

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<v Speaker 5>out there when it's sunshine. It sounds like a solution. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>this is one about painting a deck. You said, we're

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<v Speaker 5>getting our house ready to sell. The deck is looking

1:04:50.815 --> 1:04:52.975
<v Speaker 5>a bit sad, and we're thinking, right, paint it? Is

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<v Speaker 5>this wise? And what do we need to consider? Not

1:04:56.455 --> 1:04:59.455
<v Speaker 5>from a real estate point of view, you'd say, if

1:04:59.455 --> 1:05:01.815
<v Speaker 5>you arrive at a property and it looks smart and

1:05:02.335 --> 1:05:05.495
<v Speaker 5>eats a pin, then that's great. But painting decks, we

1:05:05.535 --> 1:05:08.575
<v Speaker 5>need to think about slip resistance, don't we.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's also a lot of the issues I've been

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<v Speaker 4>able to in this year the result of people tidying

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<v Speaker 4>up the house to sale without taking into account what's

1:05:20.855 --> 1:05:25.735
<v Speaker 4>already on the In this case, so, yeah, you paint

1:05:25.775 --> 1:05:30.295
<v Speaker 4>it. It looks already good. Then people move in and start

1:05:30.335 --> 1:05:32.375
<v Speaker 4>walking around on it and the paint starts coming off

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<v Speaker 4>because it's not compatible with the stain or the preparation

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't done properly. So again, it's really dependent on what

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<v Speaker 4>was previously on the deck. There's been a number of

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<v Speaker 4>decks I've seen lately that have had a wood oil

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<v Speaker 4>on there or mineral oil, which isn't compatible of anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you start trying to put another stain or

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<v Speaker 4>paint it, areas might said here okay, but other areas

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't and then when you put table and chairs on

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<v Speaker 4>or stop walking on it, all that paint comes off.

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<v Speaker 4>So my opinion is kind of why not leave it

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<v Speaker 4>for the people moving in to do what they want

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<v Speaker 4>to do with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Clean it thoroughly and leave it clean and leave it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're not generating a headache for the new homeowner.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, unless you know what's on there and then just

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<v Speaker 4>reapply another stain, or if it was previously painted and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a little bit warm, then repaint it. It

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<v Speaker 4>all goes down to keeping a record of what you've

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<v Speaker 4>previously used or what the previous homeowner used and stay

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<v Speaker 4>with the same system.

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<v Speaker 5>And in that sense, I think you and I probably

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<v Speaker 5>both on the same page when we say have a notebook.

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<v Speaker 5>And I only started doing this a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know, for each project that I do, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>and now from my own home as well, I've got

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<v Speaker 5>a notebook in the drawer that I write down all

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<v Speaker 5>of my paints and other bits and pieces as well,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, I've got to do some repairs and maintenance.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm thinking, now, did I use a water borne

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<v Speaker 5>and amal there or did I use an oil born enamel.

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<v Speaker 5>Did I use sonics or lumber sider on my exterior?

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<v Speaker 5>And you know sometimes it's all a bit vague, So

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<v Speaker 5>have that notebook, write it down, keep it in the drawer,

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<v Speaker 5>and man, it makes life easier.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got smartphones around, make pictures of the cans, you

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<v Speaker 4>can write notes on that. Keep an album on your

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<v Speaker 4>phone or your laptop or your computer with those details,

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<v Speaker 4>just so you know to use the same things again

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<v Speaker 4>next time.

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<v Speaker 5>Wrap, yeah, photograph the label those sorts of things. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 5>there you go. That's a tip mate, Thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 5>Always good to have you back and enjoy the rest

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<v Speaker 5>of your day.

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<v Speaker 4>You too, All the best.

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<v Speaker 5>Take care. That's Jay from Razine and always good advice

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<v Speaker 5>when you go into the team at Razine color shops

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<v Speaker 5>around the country. So any specific advice that you might need,

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<v Speaker 5>I know we talked about, you know, if you wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to coat over a powder coated surface. There's a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of technical detail and that go into the team at

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<v Speaker 5>Razine color shops around the country. They'll give you all

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<v Speaker 5>the advice and all of the tools and the paint

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<v Speaker 5>you need to do those jobs. It is seven thirty

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<v Speaker 5>six here at News Talk SB. We're back into building

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<v Speaker 5>and construction. If you've got a question of a building nature,

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<v Speaker 5>call us now. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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<v Speaker 5>that number to call?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing other house storting the garden asked feet for a

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<v Speaker 1>hand the resident builder with feeder wolfcab call eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>eighty ten eighty.

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<v Speaker 5>News talks EDB your news talk ZB. We're back into building.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Sarah,

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<v Speaker 5>good morning, good boarding teat, how are you very well?

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<v Speaker 5>And you good?

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you good. We got a bit of a tricky

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<v Speaker 13>what I just missed the segment with Jay, but we've

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<v Speaker 13>had a building inspectrinal property. They've flagged the roof in

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<v Speaker 13>the gathering. We know the gathering's got to be replaced,

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<v Speaker 13>so then step straightforward. They've suggested maybe either repaint or

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<v Speaker 13>re roof, and that's where we're stuck. We've just had

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<v Speaker 13>two quotes come in for the painting. Yep, we're weighing

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<v Speaker 13>for the reroof quotes, right, twenty thousand dollars including GSP

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<v Speaker 13>to repaint the roof, prep paint scaffolding.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah yeah, yeah, and look.

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<v Speaker 13>We understand the scaffholdings a big part of it. We

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<v Speaker 13>understand it makes sense gathering done at the same time,

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<v Speaker 13>but it's just twenty thous.

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<v Speaker 5>So the twenty thousand includes replacing the spouting as well. No, no, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>but if you were going to scaffold, so the scaffolding

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<v Speaker 5>is there, essentially is edge protection, right, So contractors, as

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<v Speaker 5>part of their responsibility in terms of health and safety,

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<v Speaker 5>have to ensure that they've got a way of managing

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<v Speaker 5>the risk of being on the roof. Now, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't necessarily always have to include scaffolding. So depending

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<v Speaker 5>on the amount of time that they might have to

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<v Speaker 5>spend on the roof, having a harness or another system

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<v Speaker 5>is also a way of managing that risk. Right, So

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<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe you want to get another quote. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>there's another contractor who uses a different approach and zone

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<v Speaker 5>so it doesn't have to have the scaffolding and uses

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<v Speaker 5>harnesses that sort of thing. It is a two story

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<v Speaker 5>ah radio, yes, So.

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<v Speaker 13>Basically it's five thousand for the scaffold, plus plus weekly

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<v Speaker 13>hire a four hundred plus GST. So look, I understand

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<v Speaker 13>that's a big component. We have a go with what

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<v Speaker 13>we've had. Two quotes now they're the same, so it's

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<v Speaker 13>telling us at the same cost.

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<v Speaker 5>It's yeah, what.

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<v Speaker 13>We're wondering, are we better just to re roof. It's

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<v Speaker 13>a color steel RoAF, Yep, it's twenty seven years old. Yep,

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<v Speaker 13>you can paint it. That's not going to stop anything

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<v Speaker 13>if we have a problem down the track. Are we

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<v Speaker 13>better to I don't know. It might be another ten thousand,

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<v Speaker 13>Pay another ten thousand or fifteen and get the roof done.

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<v Speaker 5>It just comes down to budget, right, So it does

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<v Speaker 5>actually make a lot of sense to do the research

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<v Speaker 5>and then you can make a fully informed decision because

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<v Speaker 5>you're right. You could spend the twenty grand now and

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<v Speaker 5>paint it and find that in five years time, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the roof reaches the end of its life and you

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<v Speaker 5>have to replace it, in which case the twenty grands

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<v Speaker 5>wasted in a sense, or you know, in some cases

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<v Speaker 5>you might find that the addition, you know, treatment of

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<v Speaker 5>any rust if there is any, and then a really

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<v Speaker 5>good quality paint job will extend the life of it

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen or twenty years time, in which case the twenty

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<v Speaker 5>grand is a worthwhile investment.

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<v Speaker 13>Money well spend exactly. And that's the dilemma, because yes,

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<v Speaker 13>we can afford to put a new roof on. But

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<v Speaker 13>we've probably offered too much on the property in the

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<v Speaker 13>first place.

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<v Speaker 5>Right to secure it.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and then you look at it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, from a purely commercial point of view, where

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<v Speaker 5>we go, Okay, so let's say it's going to cost

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<v Speaker 5>me forty five thousand dollars to reroof it, and I

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<v Speaker 5>might be here for three or four years or five years,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I'm going to sell it. And the person

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<v Speaker 5>who gets the benefit is the next is it going

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<v Speaker 5>to add value to the house? Will I? Will I

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<v Speaker 5>get that back later on? That's also part of your

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<v Speaker 5>decision making.

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<v Speaker 13>That's a very important point tonight. I think based on that,

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<v Speaker 13>that's that's probably given us a clarity we need. You're

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<v Speaker 13>right for restyle down the track. Actually better to pay

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<v Speaker 13>a little bit more now because obviously it would cost

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<v Speaker 13>you a lot more and as you say, five seven

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<v Speaker 13>years time, if you're still there and then you've got

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<v Speaker 13>to reroof then yeah, look, and.

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<v Speaker 5>It depends on much, isn't it what your intention is

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<v Speaker 5>for the You know, do you intend to stay in

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<v Speaker 5>the house for the next ten or fifteen years, in

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<v Speaker 5>which case we.

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<v Speaker 13>Do expect to stay there for ten that's our retirement

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<v Speaker 13>at the last step. But it just came. These things

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<v Speaker 13>always commonly feel, don't they pet We just thought, oh great,

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<v Speaker 13>it's only going to be a little bit of minor

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<v Speaker 13>maintenance and we're still in the house. It'll be perfect.

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<v Speaker 13>So we just went in thinking, right, we're going to

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<v Speaker 13>secure it, and we probably have overpaid, but I mean

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<v Speaker 13>we're still under conditions, so I guess we can still negotiate.

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<v Speaker 13>But I do want the house. We haven't purchased it yet, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah, okay, well that changes the dynamic that as well.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, we've got till the middle of next week to

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<v Speaker 13>make a decision. We're either go unconditional or we pull out.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you asked for a contractor to give you a

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<v Speaker 5>price for reroofing.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm just waiting for that to come. Okay as well,

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<v Speaker 13>we've got one the main companies actually through Aukland. This

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<v Speaker 13>is actually in the South Island when the job's being done.

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<v Speaker 13>But we're hoping to get that quote on Monday or Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 13>It'll come in the nick of time. Yes, without looking

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<v Speaker 13>at it, they've sort of quoted thirty thousand, maybe thirty

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<v Speaker 13>five to re roof. Yep, but we've had hit the

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<v Speaker 13>guy on site now, so we're just waiting. It's just,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, it's an Edmund thing. Now he's submitted as findings.

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<v Speaker 13>We're just waiting for that report to come through.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, the great thing is that you've given yourself some

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<v Speaker 5>runway to make these decisions. You're full and making a

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<v Speaker 5>fully informed decision is the great thing. Yes, yes, let

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<v Speaker 5>us know how you get on.

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<v Speaker 14>I will.

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<v Speaker 13>We still want the house, but we want to do

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<v Speaker 13>the right thing. We've got a little bit spere. Look,

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<v Speaker 13>I think it makes perfect sense to re roAP it.

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<v Speaker 5>Also right now feels like it's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 5>buyer's market. So you know, you're probably in not a

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<v Speaker 5>bad position.

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<v Speaker 13>To no one else around it? Don't we keep asking

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<v Speaker 13>the agent have there been any other offers? Are there

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<v Speaker 13>any other interest at the.

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<v Speaker 12>Stage, it's no, Yeah, yeah, I mean we've.

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<v Speaker 13>Gone fifty thousand over there have they? Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 13>a bit silly, we should have gone and it asking,

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<v Speaker 13>but we just wanted to secure it, right, must add

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<v Speaker 13>on to so many other properties.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, hey, good luck, good luck. Alright, you

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<v Speaker 5>take care of you and Mary? How are you.

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<v Speaker 11>Sorry? Is that Mary?

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<v Speaker 5>It is Mary Greeting?

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<v Speaker 14>Sorry, I was.

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<v Speaker 11>Just taking you off the speaker. I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 11>you about roof or soft events. Yes, nineteen sixties house

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<v Speaker 11>haven't got any events at all. A concrete tile are roofing.

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<v Speaker 11>I just wondered how effective are they for that's reducing

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<v Speaker 11>heat in the summer, and what effects it would they

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<v Speaker 11>have in the winter, right, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean concrete tile roofs. The one thing we know about

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<v Speaker 5>them is that they're pretty drafty. Right, So you know

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<v Speaker 5>if you said to me it was an iron roof

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<v Speaker 5>with building underlay and so on, then there might be

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<v Speaker 5>an advantage to Increasingly we're starting to do ventilated ridge caps, right.

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<v Speaker 5>That mean air that's underneath and that heats up underneath

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<v Speaker 5>the iron has somewhere to vent at the top. But

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<v Speaker 5>if you've got a concrete tile roof, regardless of age,

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<v Speaker 5>regardless of color, will have you know, so many gaps

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<v Speaker 5>and cracks in it that allows for airflow that adding

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<v Speaker 5>additional vents to a concrete tile roof is probably pointless

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<v Speaker 5>because and I mean if you ever go up there, well,

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<v Speaker 5>what's really intriguing, particularly if it's one that's over a

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<v Speaker 5>certain degree you don't need to have a roofing underlay

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<v Speaker 5>is put a light up there and go outside at nighttime,

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<v Speaker 5>turn the light on and go outside and have a

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<v Speaker 5>look at your roof. It'll look like a constellation of

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<v Speaker 5>stars that you will see so much light it's quite remarkable. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>there will be lots of air flow already there, which

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<v Speaker 5>actually might be a problem for a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 5>other things. But in terms of ventilation, there will be

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<v Speaker 5>plenty of ventilation in that underneath that concrete roof.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh that's great, that's nice to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, to be fair, that's good in one circumstance. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not particularly good in other circumstances. But let's not worry

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<v Speaker 5>about that right now.

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<v Speaker 11>All right, okay, all.

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<v Speaker 8>The very best.

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<v Speaker 5>You take care. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty, the number

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<v Speaker 5>to four. We're taking your building questions. If you've got

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<v Speaker 5>This morning, we've got a chance to catch up with

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Haldane from sweet Water Construction, based in the far

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<v Speaker 5>North up in Kaitai. Mark is going to give us

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<v Speaker 5>a bit of a rundown on his experience with the

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<v Speaker 5>j and OL try board panel housing and jframe. So Mark,

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<v Speaker 5>thanks very much for joining us. Let's get started with

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<v Speaker 5>the triboard panel housing construction. What are the key advantages

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<v Speaker 5>from your perspective.

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<v Speaker 15>A couple of key advantages are the efficiency of the panel.

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<v Speaker 15>A lot of the works done off site, so once

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<v Speaker 15>we actually get them to site, it just makes it

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<v Speaker 15>so much more efficient, I guess to stand it in

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<v Speaker 15>constructor houses.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 15>Another one is the waste. It's just yeah, way less

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<v Speaker 15>waste on sites. That makes it less you know, environmental

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<v Speaker 15>factor of that and yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Cough, okay, hey, Now in terms of tryboard, let's say

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<v Speaker 5>over conventional framing, those advantages you talk about the speed,

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<v Speaker 5>the lack of waste, those sorts of things. What other advantages.

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<v Speaker 15>The strength it's super strong a so yeah, in terms

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<v Speaker 15>of bracing elements and you know, have you got tenants

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<v Speaker 15>or kids or something like that, they can save you

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<v Speaker 15>a few dollars of repairs.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely. And now understanding that you're also collaborating with Vincent

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<v Speaker 5>Garten from Strand Homes and Kaitia. How's that working out?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, it's fantastic to be working with you know, supply

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<v Speaker 15>like that. They kind of and do house and land packages,

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<v Speaker 15>so it just makes it, yeah, very easy to working

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<v Speaker 15>with them. And yeah, built some houses up here.

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<v Speaker 5>Awesome. Another part of what Jane Old you can do

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<v Speaker 5>is Jframe the LVL. Now I've been using it for

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<v Speaker 5>about at least fifteen years or so. You'll switch to Jframe.

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<v Speaker 5>How have you found that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, it's been fantastic.

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<v Speaker 15>We've only I've just done my first house out of it,

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<v Speaker 15>and yeah it's a good size house and it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>it's very straight and strong, which is hasn't been you know,

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<v Speaker 15>twisting and buying like like the pink stuff normally does.

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<v Speaker 5>If other chippies are thinking about moving from conventional framing

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<v Speaker 5>to jframe, what would be your top tip given that

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<v Speaker 5>you've just swapped over.

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<v Speaker 15>A nice service now going because it's a bit harder

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<v Speaker 15>to shuldenter than the soft tank stuff, right, and actually

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<v Speaker 15>you're locked after your now going and it's yeah, ready

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<v Speaker 15>to go and it goes sweep.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's brilliant. Hey, and you know twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty three, to some degree, has been pretty tough

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<v Speaker 5>for chippies. For you and the team at Sweetwater Construction,

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<v Speaker 5>what does twenty twenty five look like?

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<v Speaker 15>Probably the highest priorities punishing off on these pretty cool

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<v Speaker 15>projects we've got going at the moment. Yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 15>few clear bit of work that was stuck into at

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<v Speaker 15>the moment. Just yeah, just ticking those boxes and making

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<v Speaker 15>sure we finish those projects are the best best as

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<v Speaker 15>we can.

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<v Speaker 5>So awesome. Hey, thanks for joining us this morning and

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<v Speaker 5>really appreciate the insights and hope that this year works

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<v Speaker 5>out really well for you. To check out Mark's work,

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<v Speaker 5>have a look at Sweetwaterconstruction dot co dot nz. To

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<v Speaker 5>learn more about Tryboard and Jaframe, go to JNL dot

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<v Speaker 5>co dot nz your newstalk CB. It was great to

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<v Speaker 5>catch up with Mark Sweetwater Construction. Check him out and

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<v Speaker 5>if you want to see more about jaframe, which is

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<v Speaker 5>an ALVL framing timber, or about tryboard, checkout JNL dot

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<v Speaker 5>co dot m said. We'll talk to Glenn us straight

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<v Speaker 5>is awesome. If you've got some building questions, you should

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<v Speaker 1>Squeaky door or squeaky floor get the right advice from

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Oh, good morning, welcome along to the show Resident

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<v Speaker 5>Builder on Sunday with me Pete wolf Camp right through

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<v Speaker 5>till eight o'clock. We change gear at about eight point

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<v Speaker 5>thirty jump into the garden with herd climb passed, so

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<v Speaker 5>stand by for that but right now we're talking building.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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<v Speaker 5>to call plan US. Good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 16>How are you, my friend?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm well and yourself not too good.

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<v Speaker 16>I've got skin cancer on my left hand. So that's

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<v Speaker 16>a different story. Yes, it's a new policy that's going

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<v Speaker 16>in with the crylic nylon I mean, well and acrylic carpet. Well,

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<v Speaker 16>it's not a policing plan. House a crilic downstairs and

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<v Speaker 16>one upstairs. Yep, the house. The house is not built

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<v Speaker 16>on foundation. It's built on the ground because it used

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<v Speaker 16>to be a quarry in this house and the old

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<v Speaker 16>place concrete, the old fashion, remember the old fiber light

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<v Speaker 16>houses they used to build during the war, those prefab

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<v Speaker 16>type houses housing cook ones. Basically, I'm wanting to know

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<v Speaker 16>when they're changing from acrylic to wool because they reckon

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<v Speaker 16>that these carpets are not the best of policy to them.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, now, how we've got to take a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>steps back. As best I understand it, it's nothing about policy.

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<v Speaker 5>Where the story has come from and where it's got

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<v Speaker 5>some traction is I think it was it was KO

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<v Speaker 5>and at one stage I think it was the Ministry

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<v Speaker 5>of education as well basically excluded the possibility of installing

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<v Speaker 5>wool carpet. Right, they just went right for our buildings,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly KAO kind of what they went, Look, we're just

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<v Speaker 5>not going to entertain offers to install wool carpet. We're

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<v Speaker 5>just going to exclude it. Now. That struck me as foolish.

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<v Speaker 5>And so the story that's been in the news this

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<v Speaker 5>week is that there's been a policy change in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of procurement. This is not legislation. This is kind of,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess, an internal procurement decision made by a government

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<v Speaker 5>body that it might be their policy, but there's no

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<v Speaker 5>legislation around it. It doesn't impact you and I. You

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<v Speaker 5>and I when we go out and choose what type

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<v Speaker 5>of carpet we'd like to put in our house, can

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<v Speaker 5>choose from anything that's available. Just by the bye, I

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<v Speaker 5>think it was foolish their previous decision to exclude wool

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<v Speaker 5>carpet or the possibility of having wool. Now they have

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<v Speaker 5>an opportunity to tender to prove that their products is

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<v Speaker 5>good as or better than and in which case that's

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<v Speaker 5>what the market's all about. So but you and I

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<v Speaker 5>as homeowners can do whatever we like.

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<v Speaker 16>Maybe I should just get a carpet on a rug

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<v Speaker 16>on top of this one. But why shouldn't I have

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<v Speaker 16>to go out and buy a great big rug, spend

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<v Speaker 16>all that money on putting a nice wall, but on

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<v Speaker 16>top of stair campet when it should be it's only

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<v Speaker 16>a small area, should be uple listed and had it

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<v Speaker 16>because underneath it is just sitting on the concrete. There's

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<v Speaker 16>no insulation underneath it.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you in kind of ordering housing?

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<v Speaker 16>I have told him, I've told them many times I've

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<v Speaker 16>been here five years, and they said, no, you have

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<v Speaker 16>to go out and buy new carpet for you right

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<v Speaker 16>on top of this. But I said no.

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<v Speaker 5>And that might be sort of a whether they have

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<v Speaker 5>their own policy, and they've probably got a policy around

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<v Speaker 5>at what point do we need to replace this in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of being a good landlord, and at what point

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<v Speaker 5>do you as the occupant have a choice around Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like to upgrade it, but then you surely you

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<v Speaker 5>need their approval. But thankfully now in terms of new

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<v Speaker 5>bills and possibly even in terms of schools, there is

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<v Speaker 5>a possibility that will get wool carpet into some of

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<v Speaker 5>those spaces, which when that's our industry that's great. Good

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<v Speaker 5>luck with all of that. Len Us and Kent a

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<v Speaker 5>very good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 14>Good morning, hey, good to speak to you and to you.

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<v Speaker 5>How can I help?

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<v Speaker 14>Right, I've got a nineteen seventy two brick and tile

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<v Speaker 14>flats and yeah, the hose came off the washing machine

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<v Speaker 14>about a week ago, and yeah, so a big, big

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<v Speaker 14>flood on the floor and where it is, it's it's

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<v Speaker 14>up against an internal war and I've got it so

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<v Speaker 14>nineteen seventy two, but it's got the particle board underneath.

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<v Speaker 10>Yep.

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<v Speaker 14>So I've been under the house looked at it, and yes,

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<v Speaker 14>it was. It was wet for or at least three

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<v Speaker 14>days in most places, but about a week to dry out.

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<v Speaker 14>A good portion of it has gone weekbix, a little

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<v Speaker 14>bit of a week bix vibe. But it's it still

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<v Speaker 14>seems reasonably solid, which isn't so bad, except my concern

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<v Speaker 14>is that there's an internal wall sitting on.

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<v Speaker 5>Top of on top of the particle right, yes.

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<v Speaker 14>In the sense it's it's not fully structural but semi structural.

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<v Speaker 14>And I'm just wondering if there's any risk whether I

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<v Speaker 14>should claim insurance as a repairable because it would be

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<v Speaker 14>quite difficult to get the wood out from under that

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<v Speaker 14>internal board.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess that from funnily enough, it sounds a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit like a situation that I had to look at

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<v Speaker 5>during the course of this week. Now it was a

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<v Speaker 5>slightly later building, but they still had particle board flaws

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<v Speaker 5>and it ran under an en suite, which is the

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<v Speaker 5>sort of thing that we don't do anymore. But when

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<v Speaker 5>I first started building, that's you just use particle board

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<v Speaker 5>through the whole house and you put your bathrooms on

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<v Speaker 5>top of it, and you know, we've kind of learned

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<v Speaker 5>from that. So and in this instance, there is some

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<v Speaker 5>decay and obvious swelling of the of the particle board,

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<v Speaker 5>indicating that there's there might be some structural issues later on.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think that that might be because the leak

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<v Speaker 5>was not discovered for a number of months and it

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<v Speaker 5>stayed saturated. So I think in your situation where you

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<v Speaker 5>have a failure, you have water, and then you identify

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<v Speaker 5>it and you remediate it quickly by drying it out,

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<v Speaker 5>especially if you had a dehumidifier in there, and then

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<v Speaker 5>you keep the dehumidifier running until you find that you're

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<v Speaker 5>not collecting much water. Right, So, even where the particle

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<v Speaker 5>board flooring is kind of trapped by the bottom plate.

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<v Speaker 5>Moisture will still evaporate from there through the use of

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<v Speaker 5>the dehumidifier, and even if there's some surface swelling, which

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<v Speaker 5>is not unexpected. You know, I don't know that one

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<v Speaker 5>event of flood damage would cause or provide the sort

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<v Speaker 5>of environment for structural decay. I think typically what you

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<v Speaker 5>see where you have particle board floors that are failing

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<v Speaker 5>is there's been a leak at the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 5>shower through the waterproofing, and it's been like that for

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of years. And I've certainly seen those. I've

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<v Speaker 5>been in buildings where I've literally put my foot right

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<v Speaker 5>through the floor right it's been that saturated for that

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<v Speaker 5>amount of time. But I think a one off event

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<v Speaker 5>and then you've been able to identify it and remediate

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<v Speaker 5>it quickly. I actually don't know that I would be

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<v Speaker 5>terribly concerned if you wanted to sort of take a

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<v Speaker 5>real belt embraces approach, if there's access and it's thoroughly

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<v Speaker 5>dry before you close it all in again, you could

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<v Speaker 5>treat the area with like a timber preservative, and there

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<v Speaker 5>is a number of those on the market that might

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<v Speaker 5>that's a sensible precautionary approach. But I think that in

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<v Speaker 5>your circumstance, I'd probably just ensure that it's really really dry,

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<v Speaker 5>like leave the dehumidifire running for as long as you

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<v Speaker 5>possibly can, monitor how much water you're collecting, and once

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<v Speaker 5>it reduces and stays down, I'd carry on repair it

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<v Speaker 5>and close it in again.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, yeah, I haven't. I haven't opened anything out as such.

1:30:06.575 --> 1:30:09.095
<v Speaker 14>I do have good access under the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, all right, Well, let's see. It's hard running a

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<v Speaker 5>dehumidifier in an open space because essentially you're trying to

1:30:15.735 --> 1:30:20.095
<v Speaker 5>dehumidify the world. But in an open space in an

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<v Speaker 5>Auckland these days, it's pretty hard to do. But in

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<v Speaker 5>an open space you've also got lots of ventilation, right,

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<v Speaker 5>so there will be natural drying that occurs as well.

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<v Speaker 5>And again I just want to labor the point. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>the one off exposure to water through a flood or

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<v Speaker 5>a leak is quite different to prolonged exposure over a

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<v Speaker 5>period of time.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yes, okay, there's I'm just wondering if there was

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<v Speaker 14>perhaps starting to be mold forming. I just saw a

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<v Speaker 14>little little few spots of lights and.

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<v Speaker 4>You can treat that.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be sensible.

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<v Speaker 14>And wouldn't that be an indication I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 14>that appears in the short term, but longer term that

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<v Speaker 14>might be any indication that the water is sticking around.

1:31:04.855 --> 1:31:07.055
<v Speaker 14>But I'm pretty sure it's all gone. I mean within

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<v Speaker 14>a week it was to touch.

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<v Speaker 5>I think what you might find is that, yes, the

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<v Speaker 5>moisture will provide the environment for the mold to grow,

1:31:16.175 --> 1:31:19.855
<v Speaker 5>but where as the moisture disappears, then the mold it's

1:31:19.975 --> 1:31:22.735
<v Speaker 5>not an attractive place. It's not an attractive environment, and

1:31:22.815 --> 1:31:24.895
<v Speaker 5>if you treat it, that should disappear as well.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, okay, all rank you okay.

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<v Speaker 14>And for something for something like this, is that the

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<v Speaker 14>kind of thing if if I was concerned, if it did,

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<v Speaker 14>if it was very crumbly, then this an insurance job.

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<v Speaker 14>It's the kind of thing they'll look at.

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<v Speaker 10>You know that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a very good point because you know, and we've

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<v Speaker 5>had this discussion around insurance a lot. There is gradual

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<v Speaker 5>damage which is typically excluded, and then there's an event, right,

1:31:51.015 --> 1:31:54.535
<v Speaker 5>and insurance is about accidents, is my view of it.

1:31:55.015 --> 1:31:59.175
<v Speaker 5>So there's been a failure, pipe burst, whatever, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>in your control, and so you've had this event. So

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<v Speaker 5>I guess what you're doing is sort of future proofing yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>So I would hoard everything that you've seen photographer, note

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<v Speaker 5>the time, explain what you did, keep that on record,

1:32:14.095 --> 1:32:16.055
<v Speaker 5>because what you're saying is, let's say in two or

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<v Speaker 5>three years time, you find that, in fact, the damage

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<v Speaker 5>is extensive, the floor is unsound, and then you go

1:32:22.255 --> 1:32:24.615
<v Speaker 5>back to the insurer and the insurer goes, oh, no,

1:32:24.695 --> 1:32:27.015
<v Speaker 5>that's because it's gradual damage. You want to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to prevent them, or you want a response to that,

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<v Speaker 5>which is though here's the event that caused it. Now

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<v Speaker 5>they could possibly then go, well, you should have told

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<v Speaker 5>us at the time, we would have repaired it then.

1:32:38.815 --> 1:32:42.295
<v Speaker 5>But at least you've got some information. Okay, Yeah, all right,

1:32:42.335 --> 1:32:45.055
<v Speaker 5>good luck with that. All the very best to you,

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<v Speaker 5>take care, Thank you. All right, we're going to take

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<v Speaker 5>short break. We'll talk to Jeff after the break. We

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<v Speaker 5>interesting text that's come through. Actually two just around insurance

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<v Speaker 5>adele text. I won't mention the name of the insurer,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's interesting. My new insurance policy includes some cover

1:34:27.575 --> 1:34:31.135
<v Speaker 5>for gradual damage, but there is a premium increase as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Interesting one many and then another text saying many insurers

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<v Speaker 5>consider a burst washing machine supply pipe to be a

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<v Speaker 5>foreseeable event because they're supposed to be replaced regularly, and

1:34:41.575 --> 1:34:46.095
<v Speaker 5>yet nobody does. Jeez, I might have to go home

1:34:46.135 --> 1:34:49.015
<v Speaker 5>and check as well. My washing machine user guide says

1:34:49.015 --> 1:34:53.855
<v Speaker 5>to replace them every twelve months. Ronicky, I'll better go

1:34:53.895 --> 1:34:59.455
<v Speaker 5>and have a look at the warranty online. I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>this couple of times that it was my intent to

1:35:02.695 --> 1:35:05.695
<v Speaker 5>get We had a really interesting conversation. We have lots

1:35:05.695 --> 1:35:08.055
<v Speaker 5>of interesting conversations, but one that sticks in my mind

1:35:08.135 --> 1:35:14.975
<v Speaker 5>is around a contractor who had insurance but wanted the

1:35:15.055 --> 1:35:18.615
<v Speaker 5>homeowner to pay the excess in the event that there

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<v Speaker 5>was a claim in the future. It got very complicated,

1:35:20.895 --> 1:35:23.615
<v Speaker 5>but it got me thinking around homeowners, you and I,

1:35:24.175 --> 1:35:27.055
<v Speaker 5>when do we need to inform our insurer if we're

1:35:27.095 --> 1:35:30.735
<v Speaker 5>doing some alterations. What are the questions you, as a

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<v Speaker 5>homeowner or as a client for a contractor working on

1:35:34.095 --> 1:35:37.015
<v Speaker 5>your house, need to ask them about the types of

1:35:37.055 --> 1:35:39.735
<v Speaker 5>insurance that they should have to ensure that they're covered,

1:35:39.735 --> 1:35:43.095
<v Speaker 5>but also that you're covered what's the overlap between their

1:35:43.095 --> 1:35:46.455
<v Speaker 5>policy and your policy? All of these sorts of things. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>I've managed to get a conversation going with some insurers

1:35:51.375 --> 1:35:53.415
<v Speaker 5>and I'm hoping in the next couple of weeks that

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<v Speaker 5>will have a claims expert on to talk about the

1:35:56.815 --> 1:35:59.735
<v Speaker 5>types of insurances that you and I need as homeowners

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<v Speaker 5>when we're engaging contractors to do work. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 5>where that gets to ride. Oh, Jeff, a very good

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<v Speaker 5>morning to you. Good thanks.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, I've just got a question for you. We've just

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<v Speaker 8>taken kind of sort of over a rental property that

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<v Speaker 8>we had built in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, and that.

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<v Speaker 5>I tell you what what we might need to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I'm just losing you there. We might try on

1:36:33.855 --> 1:36:38.375
<v Speaker 5>another line because I'm struggling to hear Jeff Isaiah, if

1:36:38.415 --> 1:36:41.175
<v Speaker 5>you could maybe get him to call back, and we'll

1:36:41.255 --> 1:36:45.095
<v Speaker 5>still have time to deal with that prior to swapping over.

1:36:45.815 --> 1:36:48.295
<v Speaker 5>Now someone Carol has taxed through. Hey, I missed you

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<v Speaker 5>talking about the three D home hope not. Yes, I

1:36:51.095 --> 1:36:53.255
<v Speaker 5>did mention it briefly. So one of the things I

1:36:53.415 --> 1:36:55.815
<v Speaker 5>got a chance to do. I was invited to go

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<v Speaker 5>and have a look at a factory tour of a

1:36:59.295 --> 1:37:05.535
<v Speaker 5>three D printed facility. Now I've met the team before

1:37:05.655 --> 1:37:08.295
<v Speaker 5>and I've I've seen the outcome. I've never actually seen

1:37:08.335 --> 1:37:11.735
<v Speaker 5>the machine sort of moving around. They didn't do a

1:37:11.775 --> 1:37:13.295
<v Speaker 5>live print, but they did do a sort of a

1:37:13.375 --> 1:37:16.055
<v Speaker 5>drive run, so you can see how the machine will

1:37:16.055 --> 1:37:21.495
<v Speaker 5>extrude out a very strong sort of mortar cement mix.

1:37:22.455 --> 1:37:25.975
<v Speaker 5>It's about forty MPa when it dries, and it drives

1:37:25.975 --> 1:37:27.655
<v Speaker 5>in about two or three minutes, so you imagine it

1:37:27.775 --> 1:37:34.415
<v Speaker 5>extruding essentially a bead of concrete out onto a shape,

1:37:34.455 --> 1:37:36.375
<v Speaker 5>so there's no form work, it just works its way

1:37:36.415 --> 1:37:39.575
<v Speaker 5>out and builds these walls in the factory. In this case,

1:37:39.615 --> 1:37:43.375
<v Speaker 5>they were then transplanted or transported to a site established there.

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<v Speaker 5>There's some insulation and then there's some reinforcing obviously, and

1:37:47.215 --> 1:37:50.335
<v Speaker 5>then the roof was put over the top and that's

1:37:50.375 --> 1:37:52.935
<v Speaker 5>now open as a show home. So if you're curious

1:37:52.975 --> 1:37:55.575
<v Speaker 5>about these sorts of things, as I am, it's out

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<v Speaker 5>in Rottkari, just on the outskirts of Hamilton, CBD. Iconic

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<v Speaker 5>three D are the company that built the house, and

1:38:05.175 --> 1:38:09.135
<v Speaker 5>they used the three D puting machine at EUROS which

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<v Speaker 5>is pretty cool system. So yeah, it's there if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to go and have a look like I did

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<v Speaker 5>last week. It was quite nice to see both sides

1:38:16.415 --> 1:38:20.055
<v Speaker 5>of the House represented. Actually, Minister Chris Pink, who we've

1:38:20.095 --> 1:38:22.975
<v Speaker 5>had on this show was there at the factory tour

1:38:23.015 --> 1:38:25.935
<v Speaker 5>and came along to the open home, as did I

1:38:25.975 --> 1:38:32.495
<v Speaker 5>guess his colleague from the other side of the house, Williams,

1:38:33.295 --> 1:38:36.095
<v Speaker 5>Member of Parliament for I think it's Papatoi or South

1:38:36.095 --> 1:38:38.895
<v Speaker 5>Auckland somewhere. So that was good to see both sides

1:38:38.935 --> 1:38:40.615
<v Speaker 5>of the House represent and good to see them out

1:38:40.615 --> 1:38:44.615
<v Speaker 5>and about looking at what's available as well. That reminds

1:38:44.695 --> 1:38:48.135
<v Speaker 5>me too that we will get Chris Pink back on

1:38:48.175 --> 1:38:50.575
<v Speaker 5>the show in the next couple of weeks as well

1:38:51.015 --> 1:38:53.495
<v Speaker 5>to talk about what the current government's doing in terms

1:38:53.535 --> 1:38:58.455
<v Speaker 5>of all the talk about winding back H one, consenting

1:38:59.535 --> 1:39:01.975
<v Speaker 5>self regulation, all of that will get an update from

1:39:01.975 --> 1:39:05.415
<v Speaker 5>the Minister in the next couple of weeks. Jeff, get

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<v Speaker 5>a there we go, can you?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 5>So Rins will probably twenty twelve purchase how old's the.

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<v Speaker 8>Building where it was built in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 5>Built in twenty twelve, yep, And.

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<v Speaker 8>We've we've just got back into it for the first

1:39:20.615 --> 1:39:22.815
<v Speaker 8>time since it's been rented out for all of that

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<v Speaker 8>period of time.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so you've moved into it yourselves.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, No, we're.

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<v Speaker 8>Actually just kind of sort of looking a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 5>Juice and sell it on, Yes, scotcha.

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<v Speaker 8>So basically, in kind of sort of the very it's

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<v Speaker 8>on a concrete pad the very back corner where the

1:39:39.895 --> 1:39:42.855
<v Speaker 8>window is for one of the bedrooms, I'm kind of

1:39:42.895 --> 1:39:45.455
<v Speaker 8>guessing that the concrete head must have kind of sort

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<v Speaker 8>of moved very, very slightly in the masonry. If you

1:39:50.215 --> 1:39:53.535
<v Speaker 8>can imagine, it's like a z crack the masonry and

1:39:53.615 --> 1:39:55.615
<v Speaker 8>it goes down for maybe three or four bricks. It

1:39:55.615 --> 1:39:59.135
<v Speaker 8>doesn't go all the way to the floor. I'm wondering

1:39:59.175 --> 1:40:00.575
<v Speaker 8>what I can do to repair that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's it's not uncommon and old to houses,

1:40:06.975 --> 1:40:08.975
<v Speaker 5>but if it's a house that was built in twenty

1:40:09.175 --> 1:40:14.415
<v Speaker 5>twelve to modern building code, I wouldn't necessarily have expected

1:40:14.455 --> 1:40:19.375
<v Speaker 5>to see that, you know, like there's sort of a tolerance,

1:40:19.495 --> 1:40:23.735
<v Speaker 5>let's say for older buildings where maybe the regulations around

1:40:23.895 --> 1:40:28.095
<v Speaker 5>depth of embedment, type of concrete, amount of reinforcing slab construction,

1:40:28.175 --> 1:40:31.095
<v Speaker 5>et cetera. Is less than what it is today, but

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twelve is relatively recent. So while I wouldn't be

1:40:37.775 --> 1:40:43.055
<v Speaker 5>too alarmist, I think that minor cracking occurs, right, But

1:40:43.175 --> 1:40:47.495
<v Speaker 5>if you genuinely think that there's actually some subsidence to

1:40:47.575 --> 1:40:49.455
<v Speaker 5>that corner of the building, is it on a slope

1:40:49.575 --> 1:40:51.255
<v Speaker 5>or something like that, or do you think it's just

1:40:52.535 --> 1:40:55.575
<v Speaker 5>ground movement and subsidence in the slab settling of it.

1:40:56.615 --> 1:40:59.415
<v Speaker 8>I think it's just I mean, it is on very surface,

1:40:59.495 --> 1:41:02.335
<v Speaker 8>so I think it is just the the slab has

1:41:02.375 --> 1:41:04.175
<v Speaker 8>just moved very, very slightly.

1:41:04.975 --> 1:41:09.335
<v Speaker 5>Which again it really shouldn't you know. Like again, if

1:41:09.375 --> 1:41:11.415
<v Speaker 5>you were saying, I've got this nineteen fifties or ninety

1:41:11.415 --> 1:41:12.975
<v Speaker 5>and sixties house and I've got a couple of cracks

1:41:12.975 --> 1:41:17.055
<v Speaker 5>in it, you go, yeah, okay, fair enough. But my

1:41:17.215 --> 1:41:19.815
<v Speaker 5>sense is it's probably nothing. But I actually think that,

1:41:19.975 --> 1:41:24.175
<v Speaker 5>given you're the owner, I would be inclined to go

1:41:24.255 --> 1:41:27.535
<v Speaker 5>to a structural engineer and have them do a survey

1:41:27.615 --> 1:41:32.935
<v Speaker 5>of it, and possibly even have some gear tech guys

1:41:33.015 --> 1:41:37.615
<v Speaker 5>just do a test of the ground or whether the

1:41:37.655 --> 1:41:41.215
<v Speaker 5>structural engineer would be able to identify some movement, maybe

1:41:41.295 --> 1:41:45.455
<v Speaker 5>even get someone to come inside with a laser and measure.

1:41:46.695 --> 1:41:49.615
<v Speaker 5>If there's any actual movement in the floor slab would

1:41:49.615 --> 1:41:52.695
<v Speaker 5>be interesting to know. Again, I don't want to be

1:41:52.975 --> 1:41:59.215
<v Speaker 5>too alarmist, but I'm just concerned because it's only thirteen

1:41:59.335 --> 1:41:59.695
<v Speaker 5>years old.

1:42:00.655 --> 1:42:00.895
<v Speaker 10>Yep.

1:42:01.895 --> 1:42:04.575
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I think it would be worth spending the

1:42:04.615 --> 1:42:06.295
<v Speaker 5>money to get an engineer to have a look at it.

1:42:07.735 --> 1:42:11.135
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I meanwithstanding that, but I mean, would there be

1:42:11.335 --> 1:42:12.895
<v Speaker 8>a book that I could use?

1:42:13.175 --> 1:42:16.015
<v Speaker 5>Look, yes, there is so if you have a look

1:42:16.015 --> 1:42:18.815
<v Speaker 5>at Maine Mark. They are probably the largest firm that

1:42:18.895 --> 1:42:21.575
<v Speaker 5>do this type of work where you can inject eurothane

1:42:21.655 --> 1:42:24.935
<v Speaker 5>foam into the ground underneath and that will fill any

1:42:24.935 --> 1:42:27.015
<v Speaker 5>of the voids and if it needs to be lifted,

1:42:27.055 --> 1:42:31.655
<v Speaker 5>you can actually lift buildings with that injected system. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so there is a fix as well.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, no worries, I'll and that was main Mark.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Main Mark. You'll find them online.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, thanks for that, all the very.

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<v Speaker 5>Best, Thank you very much. Take care, Jeff. Right, we're

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