1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Barry Sober, senior political correspondents with US. Hey Barry, Good afternoon, Heather. Okay, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: so what's the update on the Tom Phillips from a 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: political perspective. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: Well, it was interesting. I know you probably watched it 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: as well. I watched the press conference this morning, both 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: the Police Minister Mark Mitchell and the Commissioner Richard Chambers. 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: They visited the constable who was shot in Waikato hospital 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 2: this morning. It was a very somber press conference. I 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: might say. Richard chambers voice was close to cracking. I 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: thought on a few occasions. It just shows that he's 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: very close to his men and that's probably why he 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: got the job. But they're both back from Melbourne and 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: you know, the irony is terrible really that they were 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: at a funeral of one of the officers who was 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: shot over there last week. So that's particularly sad. Chambers said. 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: The officer here is doing well after being shot several 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: times by Tom Phillips. 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: He was able to speak to us a little bit. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: His eyes are not open, you'd appreciate that. Yesterday he 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: spent a good deal of the day in surgery. As 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: I said, it's very confronting, but he knows where there 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: he was able to share a couple of laughs and 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: that's good, but it's pretty hard the threat that mister 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: Phillips presented. He was a very motivated offender. He had 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: a very high powered rifle. As you've heard the Minister saying, 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: there is absolutely no doubt his intent was to kill 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: the police officer. 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: I heard you on with the child psychologists earlier. Head 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: that you know, for a twelve year old to see 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: a father being shot and we're still to see a 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: policeman being shot as well. Just it must be so traumatic. 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, such a long road, such a long road to recovery. Okay, 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: So Winston in a fight verbal. 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: He loves stirring in Parliament. It's his theater. Basically, he 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: was at it again. The Greens were resplendent in their 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Palestinian scar. I was wondering why New Zealand is not 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: recognizing Palestine when many other countries are now doing so. 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: But it was the intervention of the Mildi parties. Debbie 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: Noriwa Packer who got Peter's got on Peter's goat. The 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: Foreign Minister told her in New Zealand's requorders without parallel 42 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: before it turns. 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 5: Out here which one of those countries can tell us 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 5: what democracies should look like, given our proud record going 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 5: all the way back to eighteen fifty four and giving 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 5: Marry the vote lad in sixty seven and women the 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 5: vote first before all the other countries. No, no, no, no, no, 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: no about it. I'm not not half Marray. I mean 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 5: real ones, not Irish packers, not Irish packers, not Irish 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 5: packast order muster speaker, quite a border demia. 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 6: I take offense to what the previous speaker has just said, 52 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 6: and it is not it is not appropriate to use 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 6: this place to blood quantum and to sit there and 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 6: suggest that someone's to sit down, to suggest that someone 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 6: is past something. 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: Well, she seems to have forgotten that her co leader 57 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: Rawi Whitey Tea, he made a statement about Mardi having 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: superior genetics to park yad. So yeah, the kettle black it. 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: Is rich coming from them, because remember they she was 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: She not also one of the ones who made a 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: suggestion that David Seymour was not a real Marty. 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely yeah, because is not quite as thick as well. 63 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: He wasn't behaving like she was, just childish stuff. It 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: is veryldish. Who's invited Nichola Willis to go and see 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: the homeless in Auckland. 66 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'll let you have a guess as I talk 67 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: about it. It was again very lively, but the topics 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: I've got to say in question time today they don't 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: change very much from one recess to another. The Green's 70 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: Chloe Swarwick was again raising the plight of homeless, particularly 71 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: in her electorate of Auckland Central. For weeks now she's 72 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: been in by the Prime Minister to take a walk 73 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: with her to meet street dwellers. Well, today she turned 74 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: her attention to the Finance Mister, inviting her to do 75 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: the same, and as usual at miss the Mark. 76 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: Will the Finance Minister then take up the invitation which 77 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: the Prime Minister has so far ignored, to walk the 78 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: streets of Auckland Central to meet the people, including the 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: children who her government's decisions have made homeless. 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 7: Well, mister Speaker, I think the more immediate response, if 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 7: the Member is aware of any children living on the street, 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 7: would be for her to urgently bring that information to 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 7: the Ministry of Social Development to ensure those children get 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 7: the support to which they are entitled. 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: And the truth is that I walk on the streets 86 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 2: of Auckland every day and I've never seen children sleeping 87 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: rough on the streets. So you know, again, Chloe Swarbrick 88 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: is missing the mark. 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Barry, thanks very much, appreciate it. Barry Soper, 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Senior political correspondent. 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Dukelissy Allen, Drive and Live to 92 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: news Talks It be from four pm weekdays, or follow 93 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.