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Speaker 1: Let's trust here from Smoky Teas and you're tuned into

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Speaker 1: the Barbecue Base.

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Speaker 2: Oh, welcome back to a special new type of barbecue base,

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Speaker 2: the Barbecue based Competition Series, which is a new thing

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Speaker 2: that I'm trying out. So it's just me, no, no,

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Speaker 2: and this is for all you hardcore competition dudes and

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Speaker 2: dudets out there. We're only going to talk about competition.

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Speaker 2: We're going to dive deep. We're going to have some

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Speaker 2: of the best people in the business coming on and

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Speaker 2: to start us off. What a legend we have to

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Speaker 2: start us off tonight, none other than from Carbon Addiction.

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Speaker 2: Mister Scott Matthews. How are you, buddy good?

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Speaker 1: Out like yourself?

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Speaker 2: I am good. I'm excited about this new show. I've

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Speaker 2: been wanting to do a competition thing for ages and

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Speaker 2: I thought, what better than kicking off with a somebody

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Speaker 2: who's a very good friend but also somebody who's doing

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Speaker 2: pretty well in SCA and NZB at the moment. So

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Speaker 2: why don't we let's start with a quick kind of

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Speaker 2: who you are, who's the team, what you compete in,

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Let's sort of get a bit

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Speaker 2: of a background first, sweet.

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Speaker 1: Yess, well as Alex said, my name is Scott. Scott

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Speaker 1: Matthew's team capton of Cabon Addiction Barbecue with my partner

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Speaker 1: Akida and her kids, males three years old and William

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Speaker 1: twelve years old. We've been doing this for four years now.

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Speaker 1: I come from a very construction background, so I'm a togeboat, skipper,

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Speaker 1: crane operator and construction form and so barbeue doesn't really

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Speaker 1: fit into all that, but I've made it part of

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Speaker 2: Nice and you guy, you are, like I said, I

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Speaker 2: think you're NZBA and SCA right correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, since day one we've done We started our first competition,

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Speaker 1: Smoke on the Coast four years ago. We entered everything

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Speaker 1: and we started doing everything. And since that day we've

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Speaker 2: And I saw the latest rankings for the Steak come out.

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Speaker 2: Are you in top ten at the moment for the Steak?

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Speaker 2: But you do have your Golden ticket, don't you?

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Speaker 1: I do. We've Nikita and I both have earned. I've

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Speaker 1: earned two state Golden tickets. Nikita's in one and she's

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Speaker 1: also an Ancelery Steak Golden and Selery Golden ticket.

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Speaker 2: Right, So are you four of them between us? Are

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Speaker 2: you going to go to Fort Worth next year?

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Speaker 1: Not next year. I'd love to, it's just not going

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Speaker 1: to happen. So the year after we've got the goal,

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Speaker 1: we've done it. We've just got to do it again.

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Speaker 2: There you go. That's the attitude, and from there that

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Speaker 2: is the attitude. Okay, let's get into this because I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to dive into the world of competition barbecue on

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Speaker 2: this special show. So what is the what is the

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Speaker 2: thing that you're most proud of in your competition barbecue career?

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Speaker 2: What's that? What's been the highlight?

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Speaker 1: It's definitely got to be all the first for us.

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Speaker 1: The biggest one was jumping in and giving it a go,

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Speaker 1: and in the first place, getting there, realizing our little

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Speaker 1: And then from there it comes to the rest of

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Speaker 1: the first our first, my first place stake and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what. The funny thing, I remember

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Speaker 2: Oh of course, an expert. But I remember seeing you guys,

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Speaker 1: Yet we're still getting with but you have, You've.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a side of me that I never knew

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Speaker 2: So you know you've been going four years. What we

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Speaker 2: all kind of have these moments, right, But what's been

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Speaker 2: your biggest learning moment in that journey?

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Speaker 1: The biggest learning moment was not to do the dishes

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Speaker 2: Well, I know what you are talking about here, Like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I and typical last fashion, we're running a

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Speaker 2: There was smoke on the coast again. I remember it

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Speaker 1: Yes it was. Yeah. So I was trimming brisket I

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't laugh, but it is funny.

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Speaker 1: You had a rough idea of what I needed to do.

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Speaker 2: But there it goes. So what is your actual apart

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Speaker 2: I think it's the biggest learning for all comps, isn't

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Speaker 2: You're not competing against somebody else, and it's only you

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Speaker 2: Me, but all five hundred kilos of it.

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Speaker 2: Before I think I'm about to buy maybe three comps

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Speaker 2: Because everything else like gets frozen. Right. And do you

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Speaker 1: Not so much. I like I was working backwards. The

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Speaker 1: Going forward from that, of course, I've got to have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. I'm quite ain'tal about having my you know,

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Speaker 2: Wednesday's injection night and try and have all my meats

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. We're trying to change all

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Speaker 2: So you are. I think your other reputation is probably

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Speaker 1: Hey, when everything's sitting done, I don't care. Leaving meat stock,

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Speaker 2: You got. That's funny because normally you know the last

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Speaker 1: For a checked out. I think that also comes down

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Speaker 2: When you're a competition, have we got any roots here,

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Speaker 1: Most definitely for steak, I've got a T shirt that

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Speaker 1: That came I wore that. I think it was my

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Speaker 1: many rituals. The biggest one is probably once check and

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Speaker 1: But that's my scene moment, and I just go away

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Speaker 2: Going to know, it's probably more of a like a

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Speaker 2: oh no, I forgot my pants this weekend, or I

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Speaker 2: forgot my you know, my my third sock or something.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say lucky pants, but there are pants that

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Speaker 2: This could be a whole other I'm not sure where

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Speaker 2: we're going with this. That might be a dangerous, dangerous

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's.

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Speaker 1: A little I'll just wave that one imagination.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I ever want to use my imagination.

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Speaker 2: So sure at all, if you could go back and

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess we're talking about what going back

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Speaker 2: What would you know if you had that back to

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Speaker 2: that's going to turn you from like chaotic tornado competition

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until this year that had actually sat home.

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Speaker 1: I've been told us since day one. Everybody said it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody says it. That's just suddenly. Don't overthink it. Just cook.

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Speaker 1: Was a I think it was our second competition and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a fun one. Yeah, crazy one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So we thought says would be a great idea.

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Speaker 2: That's right, it was you are the Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: The best thing about that one was we're not going

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Speaker 2: Even when they came to tell you how sucky is

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Speaker 2: They really didn't know they could do it, and it's

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Speaker 2: Because at that same competition, do you remember that competition

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Who definitely for.

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Speaker 2: Anyone who doesn't know about these guys, there's a few

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Speaker 2: they were like, Nah, don't worry, we know what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: We were like, yeah, okays, be interesting, and then the

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Speaker 2: them and I think two of them got kicked out

436
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: or one of them got kicked out for literally fighting

437
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: because I think they were still drunk. And it's the

438
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 2: only time I've seen a head judge have to temperature

439
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: check pork to make sure it was able to be

440
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: handed in. And it was actually the safety.

441
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: And heads off forgiving it ago.

442
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: But you know, and do you know what, Their pork

443
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: did not come last? No, that's hilarious.

444
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: Didn't They didn't beat us, so.

445
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 2: They didn't beat they didn't beat me, but they were

446
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: not last. It was pretty funny that that was a

447
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: very interesting competition. It wasn't very interesting competition. What is

448
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: what's one thing that you would change and one thing

449
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: that you'd never want to change about competition barbecue in

450
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Speaker 2: New Zealand.

451
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: Let's say so, I've thought about this, but and I

452
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: honestly can't pinpoint one thing that I want to change.

453
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: We got into this knowing what we were in for.

454
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: Nothing's really changed since we enjoy it.

455
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: But what what would you not want to change If

456
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: somebody went We're going to change that, would you and

457
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: you be like, no, no, no, don't don't change.

458
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: That's there's one thing that would probably see us walk away,

459
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: as if the family atmosphere was to disappear. We started

460
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: us as a family. We love the family vibe and

461
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: it means more to us than probably turning up and

462
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: pouring our money, soul and energy into cooking barbecue. It's

463
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: having the families together, catching up and having making a

464
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: week end of it and taking the seriousness out of

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Speaker 1: the year.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's a great thing that

467
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: he's in a barbecue and Zba in particular has done

468
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: really well and there's a number of competitions that have

469
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: really fostered that, and I think what they're doing at

470
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: the moment with the kids series brilliant. I mean, I

471
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: know my daughter is coming along and doing quite well

472
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: in that, but the irony for that is that she's

473
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Speaker 2: in the last year of eligibility, so she can't do it.

474
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Speaker 2: After this year. She'll go into the SCA and sillery side,

475
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: that's what she likes. But yeah, I think that's been brilliant.

476
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: It's been really good and I totally agree. And there

477
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: are certain comps which just really lean into it, but

478
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: most of them are pretty accessible for kids. Yeah they're not,

479
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: They're not that Okay, Well, if there's there's nothing you change,

480
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: what would be Scott Matthew's unpopular opinion about barbecue comps?

481
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: Like I saw a video that Mike Rose had done

482
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: at the one of the Aussie meat stocks where you

483
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: got everybody to give their unpopular opinion or thing. So

484
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: those people talking about all sorts of things. What would

485
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: your unpopular opinion be? I don't know, to be honest,

486
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: nothing like you that you know, get rid of handing

487
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: boxes and make everybody use a tray or uh bring

488
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: in gas barbecues.

489
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Speaker 1: Or the biggest thing would probably be the past with you.

490
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: Nobody enjoys those boxes.

491
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: But I am also I just heard I just heard

492
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: from the background Nikida going or chicken you.

493
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: I think they I think that it wasn't an ore.

494
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: I think it started with something else.

495
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 2: See, this is where we differ because I've told you this.

496
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: I find trimming chicken very therapeutic. I enjoy it.

497
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you, to be honest with you. I don't

498
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: mind it, but I enjoy.

499
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: The trimming aspect of competition, and I love I think

500
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm not O c D, but I can when I'm

501
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: into something, I can get quite anal about it. And

502
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I've probably said this before,

503
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: but I love getting Good Fellas on the movie and

504
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: I like trimming all my meat watching Good Fellas while

505
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: other people are getting like knifed and beaten up the sake.

506
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to say, I'd love to say

507
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: to do the same thing, but I didn't have any

508
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: focus left watching the TV.

509
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great, I love it. Okay, what was the

510
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: best value item that you've purchased for competition? So what's

511
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: the thing that doesn't It could be it could actually

512
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: be expensive, or it could be cheap, but the thing

513
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: that's made the biggest impact to your competition life.

514
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: So since day one, we went, Okay, what's going to

515
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: be the one piece of equipment that we can rely

516
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: on and something that's never going to fail on us?

517
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: Et cetera, et cetera. And it just so happened to

518
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: be a Fireboard drive.

519
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, they're great units. I was about to

520
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: say that rules out your trailer, rules out rules out

521
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: if you're bringing the what is never going to fail

522
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: on us? There's a lot of things that fail.

523
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: There's not much and they've been through everything. We've got

524
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: three units and a spark. We are sponsored by Fireboard,

525
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: but before we were sponsored, we saved up every penny

526
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: we had and made sure that we were buying that

527
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: before we were buying an expresket.

528
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you for anything. And I'm sponsored

529
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: by him as well, right, But I did the same.

530
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: I'd spent my own money on multiple units before I

531
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: got sponsored by them, and I swear by that. I

532
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: swore by them before I did it, And that's why

533
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: I agreed to to get sponsored by because I was like, yeah,

534
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: because I use you and I trust you, and I

535
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: think it's awesome. I had a thing like, literally, it's funny.

536
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: I haven't had any issues with fus boards up until

537
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: they sent me the last one, the one they sent

538
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: me as part of the sponsorship, and it just was

539
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: wigging out. And I got hold of Adam and he

540
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: got hold of the guys in the States and within

541
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: an hour they basically done a firmware reboot to that

542
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: particular device from the States to here in New Zealand,

543
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: and it.

544
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: Was working pretty impressive.

545
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: And it's just like I was like, Wow.

546
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't get that on some of your forty dollars.

547
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: No, not at all. Yeah. I mean there's a reason

548
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: they're there. They're not the cheapest items out there, but

549
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: the quality is just like, I mean, we we on

550
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: the weekend. We had two fireboard drive units running. We're

551
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: powering two pits and then running multiple probes out of

552
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: each of them, and I had it all on my

553
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: phone and it's just like, this is brilliant, so good.

554
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: I now want four fireboor drive units so I can

555
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: run everything on fan and not have to worry about

556
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: any people.

557
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: You've got WiFi trailer so you'd be able to go

558
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: after the bub We just do everything from your phone,

559
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't it I have?

560
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: It's I sometimes buy the way I have to buy

561
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: the Wi Fi, so you know, it's sometimes I do it,

562
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: sometimes I don't. It depends if I think I'm going

563
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: to be wandering off. And the irony is I generally

564
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: only want the Wi Fi so I can play Spotify

565
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: without to put my phone. Yeah, it's kind of stupid.

566
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to download these songs. I just want

567
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 1: to stream up.

568
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just I normally end up connecting

569
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: my phone. But then you know, you wander off and

570
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: then you get the old speaker that's going yeah, and

571
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: then you get back and they're like, yeah, the music

572
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: stops and this cracked out. Okay, yeah, sorry about that.

573
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: Meanwhile you're trying to do something else.

574
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're trying to You're trying to get it.

575
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: It's a it's a big thing. So okay, I agree

576
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: with the fireboard. Definitely a good thing there. And you know,

577
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: probably in the middle of that expense, you know, it's

578
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: not a trailer, it's not thirty grand, but it's not

579
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: for ten bucks either, you know.

580
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: Exactly, it's in the scheme of things.

581
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: That's the only novel right exactly exactly. Now, what's the

582
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: what is your current competition goal?

583
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: Our current goal for to see the rest of the

584
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: year outeners, to try and finish with everything in the

585
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: top ten in.

586
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: The on the overall protein leader, overall across.

587
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: Z B, A, c A, all proteins and the overall

588
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: that's the everything. That's a goal.

589
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: How are you tracking for that at the moment? How close?

590
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: I haven't looked in a little while, but I think

591
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: we're in there for some of them recently just been

592
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: booted out of the steak top teen, so I've got

593
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: to get back into that again.

594
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: When's the next SCA that you're going to have a

595
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: crack at Helpo? Ah, yes, yes, that is true.

596
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: The next.

597
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a steak in Napier. I think

598
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: it is. Okay. Well, we're going to wish you luck

599
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: for that and we would love to see you over

600
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: in the States doing the s c A world. So

601
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: fingers cross to get there. Fingers cross for you next year.

602
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: And where can people find you guys online to keep

603
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 2: up with your journey.

604
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: Carbon Reduction Barbecue at Carbon Reduction Barbecue on both Facebook

605
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: and Instagram, or if you get really bored Scott Matthews

606
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: on Facebook.

607
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: Nice well mate, thank you for making time tonight to

608
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: catch up with us chat about your barbecue journey. And

609
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: I want to say thank you to all of you

610
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: for joining, and a massive thank you to our sponsoring

611
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: partners RUM and C Hunting and Fishing, Hut Valley and Gilmore's.

612
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: Thank you for supporting us on our show. And of

613
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: course some Jack Daniels, I hope you may be have

614
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: a little tipple at some point soon and raising a

615
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: glass to the well, Barbecue's whiskey, isn't it. It's Barbecue's whiskey,

616
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: Jack Daniels, So that's very good. And I hope you

617
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: join us for another main show next week and we

618
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: will be back with another competition series show in the

619
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Speaker 2: off week, so in two weeks time. Look forward to

620
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: seeing there. I hope you like it. If you have

621
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Speaker 2: drops a note, let us know and let us know

622
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: if there are any questions for competition people that you

623
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: want us to add into the list here and we'll

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Speaker 2: see how it goes. Wise, we will see you next

625
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Speaker 2: time on Barbecue bas