1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge twenty three or way too now. The Ossie 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: PM Anthony ALBERIZI, he's head out at Donald Trump. This 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: after the US declined today to make an exception on 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: tarifs for Ossie steel and aluminium. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Such a decision, ya, the Trump administration is entirely unjustified. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: This is against the spirit of our two nations enduring 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: friendship and fundamentally at odds with the benefits that our 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: economic partnership has delivered over more than seventy years. 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: And here is Trump's spokeswoman, Carolyn Livett. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: The President is unweavering in his commitment to restore American 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: manufacturing and global dominance. 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Now, the Australian political strategist Bruce Hawker is with me tonight. Bruce, 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: good evening, Ryan, How are you good? Thank you. Any 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: surprises are on your side of the testment. 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: To this look, I don't think so, really. I think 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: people were preparing for the worst. That didn't really seem 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: to be any indication that President Trump was going to 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: give any exemption for any countries. Obviously the government was 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: hopeful and they had a lot of representations being made, 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, the tariff program 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: that Trump's putting in place is going to apply to 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 3: Australia as well. 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Do you reckon Turnbull had anything to do with this? 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: Well, I wondered about that. I mean, it was unfortunate 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: that those comments were made at the time. And Trump 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: is such a unique character when it comes to personalizing 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 3: his responses and the way in which he plays his politics. 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: It's not beyond doubt that that could have been the case. 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: But who knows. 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: How's it playing domestically, And I know Albanese is also 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: saying they're not going to hit back with any counter tariffs. 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, do people want strength from their ousipm at 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: the moment to stand up against Trump or was everybody 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: happy to be a bit more softly softly? 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: Well, I think they've seen what's happened in places like Canada, 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: where the response by the CANAE in putting tariffs on 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: America led to doubling of the tariffs on the Canadians. 38 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: So I think the similar sanguine view in Australia as well. 39 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: Maybe we just got to ride this one out for 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: a while. It's clear that there are going to be 41 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: very significant impacts on America with their tariff policy and 42 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: causing inflation and having effects on their stock market right now. 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: So who knows what Trump's next move or move down 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: the street you know a few months is going to be. 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: So I think that probably most Australians would be saying, look, 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 3: let's let this thing ride. It's not good. It's an 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: act of bassardry, I guess, I would think by some 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: by a country that's been very friendly and loyal to Australia, 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: as has been to New Zealand largely, but we live 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: in these very strange times. The opposition obviously has come 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: out and said that more should have been done and 52 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: so forth. So it's run down pretty predictable lines. But 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: I suspect that most people would think it just wait 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: and see how this event unfold in the coming months. 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Bruce, thank you very much for that. Bruce Walker, Australian 56 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: political strategist with US. It's interesting to note, and I 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: are supposed to put it in some context that the 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: US only takes zero point two percent of Australia's still 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: and aluminium. 60 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 62 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio,