1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Kilda. I'm Georgina Campbell in for Chelsea Daniels and this 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: is the Front Page, a daily podcast presented by the 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: New Zealand Herald. Police have found remains in the search 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: for missing christ Church real estate agent Jan Feyboo. It 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: comes just a few weeks after the one year anniversary 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: of her disappearance. A process has been underway to formally 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: identify the remains, but police believe they've finally solved this 8 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: part of a case that's shocked the country. For more 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: details and how police got here, we are joined now 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: on the Front Page by newstalksb christ Church reporter Emily Ansel. Emily, 11 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: can you remind us of the details of this case? 12 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: How and when did Jan Faybao first go missing? Yeah? 13 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: So, Jan Fabao first went missing while working as a 14 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: real estate agent in the Hornby area on the nineteenth 15 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: of July twenty and twenty three. Looking back over our archives, 16 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: we had reports running off her disappearance just a few 17 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: days later, on the twenty first. That day, police said 18 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: that they had found some of her items on the 19 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: Southern Motorway and they had grave concerns for her welfare, 20 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: but it wasn't until the twenty second that a fifty 21 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: three year old man ting jun Kao, although we weren't 22 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: sure of his name at the time, was charged with 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: her kidnapping. Then this was elevated or he got an 24 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: additional charge of murder when the homicide probe was launched 25 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: about a week after her disappearance, So a pretty quick 26 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: turnaround initially before over a year wait until some remains 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: were found. 28 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Yes, and it was the first anniversary of her disappearance 29 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: only two weeks ago. What were police in her family 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: saying at that time. 31 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Well, police were just using the data, I guess to 32 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: sort of pression in people's minds. Obviously what had happened. 33 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: It been a while. I suppose coverage had sort of 34 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: lapsed a little bit in that time. We did another 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: check in with him around Christmas, where the message was similar. 36 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: It was just that, you know, police was still actively searching. 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: This was very much on the forefront of their minds. 38 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: The number of the core team may have decreased, but 39 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: Detective Inspector Nicola Reeves was yet very keen to get 40 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: across that this was still an active investigation. The trial 41 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: was still going ahead in October and they were still searching. 42 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, they would have at that time had information, 43 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: had the tip that was provided which allowed them to 44 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: find the remains, So that was obviously in the works, 45 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: and I guess that was what was providing them with 46 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: a sense of confidence that they were still, you know, 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: heading in the right direction when it comes to what 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: her family was saying at that time. There was a 49 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: release sent through via police from Jan Fabal's partner, Paul Gooch, 50 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: who talked about how heavy their hearts were as they 51 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: reflected on her vibrant and radiant spirit. One year on 52 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: since her disappearance. They said that she'll be remembered best 53 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: for her larger than life personality and her hard work 54 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: and sense of humor. 55 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 3: Yan Fay's partner has described the year that's been as 56 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: incredibly challenging for the family, changing their lives irreparably. He says, 57 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: they're all yearning for yan Fey to be found to 58 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: give them some measure of comfort and peace, allowed them 59 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: to say their fearwells and begin the healing process. Her 60 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: family back in China also releasing a statement expressing how 61 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: helpless they feel being so far away and thanking police 62 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: for their dedication to the case. 63 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: So touched on jan Fo Bell's daughter, who was nine 64 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: years old at the time when her mom went missing. 65 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: She was actually waiting to be picked up from after 66 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: school care when her mom didn't arrive on the nineteenth 67 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: of July. But they said that her daughter has displayed 68 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: incredible resilience and her family and friends in school had 69 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: rallied around her and provided substantial love and support. Gooch 70 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: said that it was inspiring to witness jan Fo Bell's 71 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: daughter's remarkable strength and bravery, and her mother would be 72 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: deeply proud of. 73 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: Her and Emily you mentioned that at the time of 74 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: this anniversary, police actually had the information that led them 75 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: to recovering her remains. So police confirmed in a press 76 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: conference this week that they had that information about two 77 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: months prior. Why did it take them so long between 78 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: receiving that information and actively for her. 79 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: Nikola Reeves confirmed that the tip that they went off 80 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: they had received six to eight weeks prior. She didn't 81 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: delve too much into detail on the reasons why, just 82 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: to say that there was about sixty police on the 83 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: search and it would have taken some time for them 84 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: to plan that. So you know, as we head into 85 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: trial or is more information is released, I'm sure hopefully 86 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: we'll learn a bit more about why it took so long, 87 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: other than the fact that it must have taken a 88 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: little bit of coordination, and it did take them an 89 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: hour and a half to find some remains, and it 90 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: was an area they'd searched before. The area itself is 91 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: quite large, it's sort of all farmland around there, so 92 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: I imagine that would have taken some time to make 93 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: sure they could pinpoint more or less where they hoped 94 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: perhaps she would be. So I imagine that is what 95 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: the reason was for it taking a fair few weeks 96 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: for them to get to this point. 97 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: And you know, fast forward a fortnight between that anniversary 98 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: and discovering her remains. How surprising was it to go 99 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: from that point to police suddenly looking for her body 100 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: in a very specific location, especially for you, you know, having 101 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 1: covered the case for some time. 102 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: I think that talking to Nikola Reeves on the anniversary, 103 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: you did get the sense that they were confident that 104 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: they were heading in the right direction. You know, perhaps 105 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: they knew something we didn't, and so when the call 106 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 2: came through that they were searching, we went straight out there. 107 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: And I think there was a sense of hope. This 108 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: is the first time we'd sort of been alerted by 109 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: police of a search in a while, so we were 110 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: sort of hopeful. Well, I was hopeful that maybe this 111 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: might something might come out of this this time. 112 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: So can you tell us a bit more about where 113 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: her remains were finally found? What does the area look like. 114 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: So the remains that were found during the search for 115 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: missing real estate agent jan fey Bao were discovered in 116 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: a shallow grave. Detective Inspector Nikola Reeves said it was 117 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty millimeters deep, so not very 118 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: deep at all. And this grave was discovered along a 119 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: tree line in a private property in Green Park, which 120 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: is sort of in the southern outskirts of christ Church. 121 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: It was about a forty minute thirty five to forty 122 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: minute drive from the city center. But as I say, 123 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: the area itself is pretty rural. It's filled with farmland, 124 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: private farmland, lots of fields. The river isn't too far nearby. 125 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 2: It was actually only a few streets away, probably around 126 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: this time last year that we were out by the 127 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: river as they were searching through Hallswell River. There was 128 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: a few media there and we were stationed on the 129 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: public road on Clark's Road, just outside the gate of 130 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: this private farm where police were searching. 131 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: And it's not the first time that they've searched this area, 132 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: or have you know, searched other areas, as you say, 133 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: was there some frustration from you know, the police point 134 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: of view that they have searched this area before and 135 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: missed her remains. 136 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: I asked Nikola Reeves yesterday if there was a sense 137 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: of frustration. She said, the whole situation was sort of frustrating, 138 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: just the fact that you know, someone was missing and 139 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: they wanted to bring a home to her family. But 140 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: I get the sense that they believe they were doing 141 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: the best that they could with the information that they had. 142 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, we've been out there a year before 143 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: where they were searching halls will Ribbon not too far away, 144 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: and Green Park throughout the search had always remained an 145 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: area of interest. But it is a fairly expansive area, 146 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: as I said, lots of farmland, lots of fields, so 147 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: there's plenty of places that she could have been. But 148 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll find out more information about exactly why 149 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: it took as long as it did, especially as you say, 150 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: given you know this was an area they had searched 151 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: multiple times in the past. 152 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: We have gone back out to that Green Park area. 153 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: We certainly think that that area is the most relevant 154 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: and the most important search area for us. At this time, 155 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: we're unable to share what that new information is that 156 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: has led us to the search for operational reasons. 157 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: And what was the mood like at the police court 158 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: in when journalists realized that the remains had been found. 159 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: So when the remains had been found, I was headed 160 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: back to the office. I was the last one there 161 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: out of the media, so most of the media had 162 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: left because it was a little bit hard to see. 163 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: I got there just after nine point thirty. There was 164 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: a few other media there, not too many. Photographer or two. 165 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: We were hanging around on Clark's Road taking photos where 166 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: we could. I spoke to the policeman who was at 167 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: the cordon. They were keeping pretty tight lipped. Eventually most 168 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: of the media had left. We couldn't see the search 169 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: site itself. We could see a couple of police cars. 170 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: A few hours in. I was there. Another camera woman 171 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: was there and we saw a big group of police, 172 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: some in a lot of Hiver's rain gear, holding shovels. 173 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: Most of them were holding shovels, so we knew there'd 174 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: been a bit of digging going on. They came back 175 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: to where all the vehicles were parked, put their shovels 176 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: up against a van. A lot of them were congregating 177 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: in a shed where we assumed they would be having 178 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: morning tea. As had happened in other searchers, they obviously 179 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: needed to take a break, and so it was a 180 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: bit of a waiting game for us and then for myself. 181 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: I was probably there the longest as far as I 182 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: could tell, and then eventually, i'd say after around the 183 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: twelve thirty mark, maybe just before police started to leave, 184 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: and they sort of trickled out, And interestingly, I was 185 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: trying to flag a few of them down to figure 186 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: out what was going on, but I was getting block 187 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: for the rest of that afternoon. So it did make 188 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: me wonder if something had been found and if they 189 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: weren't able to say. And then as I was driving 190 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: back to the office, I got the call to say 191 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: that there had been remains found, and I went back 192 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: out to file for news talk said B. I spoke 193 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: to a neighbor actually at that time. When I got 194 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: back it was very quiet. There was no police around 195 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: that I could see, but a neighbor was out. I 196 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: spoke to her and she didn't want to say much, 197 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: but she did say that it was a huge relief 198 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: to know that something had come out of the searches. 199 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: Obviously they had played a small role on this for 200 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: the last year, with police searching there pretty frequently. 201 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: And what is the process for police now that the 202 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: remains have been found. 203 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: Detective Inspector Nikola Reeves said that those remains would be 204 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: getting forensically examined from today. We asked when we would 205 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: be getting results from that examination, and they said that 206 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: they had hoped to have some answers in the next 207 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: couple days, so we're awaiting that, and it sounds like 208 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: they're going to get onto that pretty quickly. They also 209 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: said that there will be police presence at Green Park 210 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: for the foreseeable. They're going to be doing scene examinations, 211 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: just making sure that obviously they've got everything and there 212 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 2: isn't anything else left in the area and the other 213 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: items of interest, she said, so it'll just be a 214 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: matter of collecting information. And then also they are still 215 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: preparing for a trial in October, so they'll be gathering 216 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: information for that as well. 217 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: Yes, and look, the discovery of her remains closes one 218 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: chapter in this story, but it's far from over. As 219 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: you say, police are now preparing or continue to prepare 220 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: for the trial of the man charged with her murder. 221 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: We are working towards a trial date in late October 222 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. It is still an active investigation. 223 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 5: It's possible to run a trial without a body, and 224 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 5: it's happened several times in the past, but obviously as 225 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 5: part of the murder trial, they have to prove that 226 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 5: someone has been killed. 227 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: Will the discovery of young fay Bow's remains help police 228 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: with their preparations. 229 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: When I spoke to Reeve's for the anniversary of her disappearance, 230 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: they were determined to go ahead with the trial regardless 231 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: of whether they managed to find any remains before that time. 232 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: But she said this discovery really takes a weight off 233 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: their shoulders. I guess also when it comes to making 234 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: sure that they can provide some closure for the family. 235 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: But yes, I imagine, as always with any trial, having 236 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: some evidence like that will be welcome with those prosecuting. 237 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, Emily. That's it for 238 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: this episode of the Front Page. You can read more 239 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: about today's stories and extensive news coverage at zidherld dot 240 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: co dot nzed. The Front Page is produced by Ethan 241 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: Sills and sound engineer Patty Fox. I'm Georgina Campbell. 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