1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Twenty away from six the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: International Realty achieve extraordinary results with unparallel reach. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Joseph Agani of Child found In, Tris Sharson of Sheerson 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Willis Parras with us. How are you two, hello, Tris? 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Did you know about the rainbow machine? 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: I didn't know about the rainbow machine, and I'm obviously 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 3: outraged about that. But also I didn't know about this 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: clause in the local government legislation that that meant, you know, 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: councils can go off to your bank and try and 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: recover rates on the mortgage. It's a pretty it's a 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: pretty full on step for organization an organization to be 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 3: able to take. And I'm not sure of anyone else. 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: Josie might know, but I can't think of any other 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: organization that's able to do that, to reach and via 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: your lender. I guess for me, I'm a bit like 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: you here that I'm conflicted on it. But I also 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: think that the big issue here is affordability of rates. 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: And you know, as per your previous interview, e, the 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: rates rises that people are facing with no prospect of 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: or understanding of where they're actually going to cap out. 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: That's the real worry here. So you not only can 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: counsels reacn and you know, put this on your mortgage 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: if you haven't paid, but also into the future. You know, 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: there is real concern that if someone doesn't get local 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: government roots under control, you know, they are going to 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: become completely unaffordable for a lot of people. 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you make of it, Josie. 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 4: I'm not conflicted. I actually think this is really good. 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 4: And as a rate payer, as you both just said, 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 4: I pay my rates, I get bugger all for it, 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 4: no rubbish collection. I don't even have a pavement to 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: walk on outside my house. I don't even have potholes 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 4: to complain about. But you know, I pay my rates. 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 4: So I think if you've got counsel waste, if you've 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: got them spending money on rainbow machines, and as up 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: here in Compardy there's an awful piece of artwork that 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: the council stopped funding. Good on them and then there 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: was a petition for the community to keep funding it 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: and it's just like just take it down, we don't 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: want it. So I don't mind about this, but I 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: do think that there should be processes around it, and 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: there are so as far as I understand, the council 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: goes through a whole bunch of things where if you're 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: struggling to pay, they give you time, they help you 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: with the payment plan. 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: If you're doing it. 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: As a protest because you think the council is wasting money, 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: well just wait to vote the guys out. Wait to 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 4: vote the council out. So there are mechanisms for that, 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: and you know, and then they have to apply for 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: it a year in advance, so they have to give 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: a year's notice and then they can take the money 53 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: if you're not paying, and they should do because if 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: they if people don't pay, then then everybody else has 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: got to pay more. 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: Josie, So who's your mayor? 57 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: By the way, I'm up in company, and it is. 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: You. Might I do it still, I've heard about it. Yeah, 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: oh god, Laura, google it, save me google it. 60 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: There's Janet Janet, Janet. 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: Jill Holbrook, Janet Holbrook, thanks Olbrah Yes. 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's Janet Smith, Josie. 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: No, I'm just making Janet Smith. 64 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: I'm just making up names to see just how bad you. 65 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: Are, Joseph Janet. 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's say, Janet, the mayor decides that she 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: is going to increase your rates by three thousand dollars 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: a quarter from next quarter. Are you going to be 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: chill with her and be like, yeah, okay, that's fair enough. 70 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: We're all paying it, so we'll just keep paying it. 71 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: No, I'm going to vote her out and anybody else 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: who agrees with her and get. 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: But I mean, and this is fundamentally the problem. That 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: isn't it trish that the next body get in you 75 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: can't really like, does anybody have any confidence that they're 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: going to be different because you've still got the same 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: bro sitting in the council. 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: We don't, and we still have the absolute lack of 79 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: of fiscal discipline to realize that, you know, they just 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: can't keep spending and taxing homeowners through rates like they are. 81 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: And that is a fantastic stat to come back to. 82 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: So the fact that rates now with insurance are one 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: of the greatest domestic drivers of the cost of living 84 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: or really inflation in New Zealand. And again, you know, 85 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: governments all focused on private businesses and hammering them over 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: rising price in competition, but these rates rises, they not 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: only go across private homeowners, but they are a major 88 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: contributor to the increasing costs of running a business in 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: New Zealand, so they have to be bought under. 90 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: They really really do. Guys, will take a break, thanks 91 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: so much, Just stay with. 92 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Us the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the 93 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: ones with worldwide connections that perform not a promise. 94 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: Right, Josie, how do you feel about the police waiving 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: three of those people into the police college even though 96 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: they didn't meet the fitness test. 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: So I Co'm struggling to see what the big panic 98 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: about this is. And also I want to say, well, 99 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: and I'm sounding a bit flinty tonight, no, but what 100 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: the hell is Labour's political game here? Like they're careful 101 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: not to comment on everything, they don't bark at every car, 102 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: and then suddenly suddenly this is the most devastating critique 103 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: of the government you can make that three trainee cops 104 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 4: got through. 105 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: That, Okay, So is it possible that the reason they're 106 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: jumping on it now in April is because they know, 107 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: like anybody with half a brain, that on November twenty seven, 108 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: the government is not going to meet that target. So 109 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: if they start hopping on about it. Now they can 110 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: say I told you so in November and we will 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: know that they did tell us so, and it's egg 112 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: on the government's face. 113 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 4: Yes, but what they're actually doing, and I think that's right. 114 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: I think the critique about the five hundred new cops 115 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: by twenty twenty seven is really unrealistic and the government's 116 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 4: going to have to face that. But what Labour's targeting 117 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: here is, oh, Mark Mitchell, Minister, police is putting pressure 118 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: on operations and cops to you know, get them through 119 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: the course quickly without doing the physical blah blah blah. 120 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, so what is your alternative? Guys? Are 121 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: you saying that we shouldn't be recruiting more police althore 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 4: you saying that we should have that there's some massive 123 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: political pressure coming on here, or that there's you know, 124 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: or that we should just pay police more and then 125 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: we get more there, Well, where's the money going to 126 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: come from? I mean, it just feels like this is 127 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: the most devastating critique they can come up with the 128 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: National Coalition government. Come on, guys, get your shipped together. 129 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: What do you reckon? 130 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: True? Well, I just thought extremely rich coming from Labor. 131 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: I mean, this is an This is a party who 132 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: throughout their last six year term in office repeatedly dropped standards. 133 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: They dropped standards in the police, they dropped standards across 134 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: everything else. They didn't want measurements on anything so rich. 135 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: Now to be coming and having a go at supposedly 136 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: an absolutely storm and a key cup in my view. 137 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: And the police. I mean I heard Mark Mitchell this morning. 138 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 3: He was very clear he thinks these standards are should 139 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: absolutely be in place. Had nothing to do with it. 140 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: He's actually an ex cop so knows what he's talking about. 141 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: And to be honest, I just think it makes Labour 142 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: look a little bit silly, and you know they actually 143 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: don't know where to aim their gun on this. 144 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: Can I just say one thing, Heather, I think because 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: I think you know this criminals coming out of jail 146 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: who've spent the last five to ten years doing nothing 147 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: but go to the gym and buffing up. So I 148 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: do actually want our cops to do a physical training 149 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: because I think it protects them and it protects us. 150 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: Well. 151 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Josie, I mean nowadays, right see, I'm not 152 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: that stressed out about it because nowadays a lot of it, 153 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: and the crews around in their cop cars just making 154 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: us feel safe. Like some of them are definitely just 155 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: you know, performative. So the performative ones don't have to 156 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: do the fitness test, do they. 157 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: Well, I think most of the cops I see on 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: the beat are absolutely ripped, and I often think that 159 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: as men and women, I often thinks, right, how it's like, 160 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: it's well, it's like, yeah, well, it's like looking at 161 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: the all black seat safety looking at the cops. Well, 162 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: in a safety conscious vein, I might add, are you 163 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: up to the task of protecting the community. But I 164 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: often think it's like looking at the all blacks now 165 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: compared to twenty five years ago, they are far more 166 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: sort of built and physical because that's what the job requires. 167 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: Yep, fair enough, Hey, very very quickly, how do you 168 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: feel trish about the build of self certifying? 169 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely fantastic. I mean, talk to anyone in New Zealand 170 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: trying to build anything and the red tape and trying 171 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: to get people to come and certify. Sometimes five or 172 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 3: six times building inspectors have to come. It's an absolute 173 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: joke and it's costing people hundreds of thousands of dollars. 174 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: So I think this is fantastic. 175 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: Josie, Yeah. 176 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: I mean both the left and the right have to 177 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: focus on getting stuff done, getting stuff built, and as 178 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 4: a movement away from thinking about small government, big government 179 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 4: left right and just thinking about abundance in building getting 180 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: stuff done. I think this is really really good. And 181 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: look at there's one example where in California they have 182 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 4: followed every process, in every consent process to get a 183 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 4: Californian high speed rail. They have yet to get a train. 184 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: Hey guys, thank you very much, really appreciate. It's Josephagani 185 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: our CEO of Child Fund, and Truschess and Shesson, Willis 186 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: Parra huddle this evening. 187 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 188 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 189 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.