1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,773 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b. 3 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:16,493 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your messages, he pouring in. Jack. 4 00:00:16,533 --> 00:00:19,453 Speaker 2: I'm an American, I've never felt so incredibly embarrassed and 5 00:00:19,493 --> 00:00:23,933 Speaker 2: distraught from my fellow countryman. What a catastrophic debate. I 6 00:00:23,973 --> 00:00:26,573 Speaker 2: am all the more grateful to be living in God's 7 00:00:26,573 --> 00:00:30,253 Speaker 2: own says Lizzie. Thanks Lizzie, best opening monologue ever. Jack 8 00:00:30,293 --> 00:00:30,933 Speaker 2: totally agreed. 9 00:00:31,013 --> 00:00:31,173 Speaker 3: Jack. 10 00:00:31,213 --> 00:00:33,773 Speaker 2: The scariest thing about Biden's performance is that he's currently 11 00:00:33,813 --> 00:00:37,253 Speaker 2: the president. He appears to be incapable of doing his job. 12 00:00:37,293 --> 00:00:41,573 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's concerning. The thing is I reckon. 13 00:00:41,573 --> 00:00:43,693 Speaker 2: This's a really good argument to be made that Biden's 14 00:00:43,733 --> 00:00:47,133 Speaker 2: record as a legislator and as president is pretty good. 15 00:00:47,333 --> 00:00:49,533 Speaker 2: Not perfect by any suching the imagination, but it is 16 00:00:49,573 --> 00:00:53,133 Speaker 2: pretty good. But yeah, I don't think anyone watching last 17 00:00:53,173 --> 00:00:56,293 Speaker 2: night would have had much confidence in his ability to 18 00:00:56,733 --> 00:00:59,413 Speaker 2: get through the next six months, let alone the next 19 00:00:59,453 --> 00:01:02,053 Speaker 2: four and a half years. Honestly, Jack, it was a 20 00:01:02,053 --> 00:01:04,013 Speaker 2: poor result for Biden. But how can you say Trump 21 00:01:04,013 --> 00:01:06,333 Speaker 2: didn't lie? You're dreaming. No, I'm not saying that, Dallas. 22 00:01:06,413 --> 00:01:08,933 Speaker 2: Trump absolutely lied, And of course he lied. But isn't 23 00:01:08,973 --> 00:01:11,333 Speaker 2: it interesting that the focus today is not on Trump's lies. 24 00:01:12,373 --> 00:01:14,613 Speaker 2: The focus is entirely on Biden. What I'm saying, He 25 00:01:14,613 --> 00:01:17,173 Speaker 2: didn't lie. And there was that one line, that line 26 00:01:17,173 --> 00:01:20,173 Speaker 2: where he said, I don't know what he was just 27 00:01:20,173 --> 00:01:22,333 Speaker 2: saying in that last sentence, and I don't think he 28 00:01:22,413 --> 00:01:25,653 Speaker 2: did either. Because I'm personally watching it, I had zero 29 00:01:25,693 --> 00:01:28,733 Speaker 2: idea what Biden was saying. Anyway, ninety ninety two is 30 00:01:28,773 --> 00:01:30,213 Speaker 2: the tech number if you want to flick us a message. 31 00:01:30,253 --> 00:01:31,893 Speaker 2: Kevin Milne is with us this morning. 32 00:01:33,533 --> 00:01:39,573 Speaker 3: Yea Manawaiti or mar Riki. I thought you're opening monologue 33 00:01:39,573 --> 00:01:45,733 Speaker 3: as the listener. Excellent. Yeah, I just I watched with 34 00:01:45,813 --> 00:01:46,813 Speaker 3: astonishment myself. 35 00:01:46,973 --> 00:01:49,533 Speaker 2: I mean, there's scrambling today. The deams are scrambling today. 36 00:01:49,573 --> 00:01:52,373 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I just there's no way 37 00:01:52,373 --> 00:01:54,893 Speaker 2: of getting out of that for me, like. 38 00:01:54,813 --> 00:01:57,693 Speaker 3: You in the first place, who was. 39 00:01:58,253 --> 00:02:00,693 Speaker 2: Biden Team Biden agreed to it. They were the ones 40 00:02:00,693 --> 00:02:03,053 Speaker 2: who said, yeah, let's do it. So they dictated the terms. 41 00:02:03,093 --> 00:02:04,893 Speaker 2: They said, we want to have a microphone that gets 42 00:02:04,893 --> 00:02:07,613 Speaker 2: cut off so that Trump comes Biden he prepped for 43 00:02:07,693 --> 00:02:11,493 Speaker 2: a week. That was the result of a week's prep yes, 44 00:02:12,213 --> 00:02:16,573 Speaker 2: I'm sorry as a FIESCO. So yeah, anyway, it's going 45 00:02:16,613 --> 00:02:18,293 Speaker 2: to be very interesting to see what happens from here. 46 00:02:18,293 --> 00:02:22,413 Speaker 2: But of course neither party has had it's you know 47 00:02:22,453 --> 00:02:25,253 Speaker 2: that they're they're annual conference where they're oh there the 48 00:02:26,373 --> 00:02:30,173 Speaker 2: conference ahead of the d NC, ahead of the ahead 49 00:02:30,173 --> 00:02:32,413 Speaker 2: of the election. So there is, in my views, still 50 00:02:32,453 --> 00:02:34,493 Speaker 2: time for them to get in another candidate. But they 51 00:02:34,533 --> 00:02:36,773 Speaker 2: really need Biden to come out and say, you know what, 52 00:02:36,893 --> 00:02:39,293 Speaker 2: actually I'm gonna I'm gonna be the one to step aside. 53 00:02:39,733 --> 00:02:43,493 Speaker 3: But yeah, just founding, isn't it, Jack, that that that 54 00:02:43,613 --> 00:02:46,253 Speaker 3: the Dems don't have somebody else? 55 00:02:46,293 --> 00:02:47,893 Speaker 2: Oh they do, know, They've got They've got I mean, 56 00:02:47,933 --> 00:02:50,733 Speaker 2: they've they've got dozens of people who who could put 57 00:02:50,773 --> 00:02:55,693 Speaker 2: together a more energetic campaign. I mean, I I think personally, 58 00:02:56,013 --> 00:02:58,853 Speaker 2: Josh Shapiro is a name to watch. He's the governor 59 00:02:58,893 --> 00:03:01,853 Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania, which is you know, considered a bit of 60 00:03:01,853 --> 00:03:05,293 Speaker 2: a swing state. It's a really important state. And he's 61 00:03:05,813 --> 00:03:08,493 Speaker 2: you know and go more energetic, more capable of debating. 62 00:03:09,613 --> 00:03:11,813 Speaker 3: Don't need to countered it well, because the. 63 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:14,853 Speaker 2: President in America is all powerful and if the president 64 00:03:15,013 --> 00:03:16,933 Speaker 2: decides that he wants to run for a second term. 65 00:03:16,973 --> 00:03:18,973 Speaker 2: Then the president runs for a second term. What they 66 00:03:19,013 --> 00:03:21,013 Speaker 2: need is for people to take him aside and say, look, 67 00:03:21,253 --> 00:03:26,693 Speaker 2: you are threatening your legacy in the most grave way possible, 68 00:03:27,373 --> 00:03:29,853 Speaker 2: and not just your legacy, but like the kind of 69 00:03:29,893 --> 00:03:33,293 Speaker 2: state of democratic norms around the world. And you know, 70 00:03:33,413 --> 00:03:35,733 Speaker 2: for everything that you've achieved in life, you are going 71 00:03:35,813 --> 00:03:37,853 Speaker 2: to do more damage than all the good you've done 72 00:03:38,373 --> 00:03:41,293 Speaker 2: if you stand and lose. And I don't know who's 73 00:03:41,293 --> 00:03:43,373 Speaker 2: gonna who's going to make that call, but anyway, be 74 00:03:43,453 --> 00:03:46,453 Speaker 2: very interesting to watch how this, how this unfolds? And Kevin, 75 00:03:46,493 --> 00:03:48,973 Speaker 2: you were intrigued by another headline during the week. 76 00:03:49,573 --> 00:03:52,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, my headline of the week was New Zealand's biggest 77 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:57,613 Speaker 3: brain heading to Australia. I felt instantly disheartened. Who this time? 78 00:03:57,773 --> 00:04:02,293 Speaker 3: Rocket Labs better back matt Or, Nick Mobray, the Toy Entrepreneurs, 79 00:04:02,813 --> 00:04:07,693 Speaker 3: graphics maestro Sirian Taylor. No under them, Thank goodness. 80 00:04:08,133 --> 00:04:08,213 Speaker 2: No. 81 00:04:08,813 --> 00:04:12,373 Speaker 3: The biggest brain they were thinking about was Burmer, the 82 00:04:12,413 --> 00:04:18,453 Speaker 3: Auckland zoos elephant, New Zealand's last remaining elephant. It's considered 83 00:04:18,573 --> 00:04:21,413 Speaker 3: unfair that Burmer should have to live as a lone 84 00:04:21,453 --> 00:04:25,093 Speaker 3: elephant any longer. He's off to Manato's Fari Park and 85 00:04:25,173 --> 00:04:30,213 Speaker 3: South Australia to join two other Asian elephants. I had 86 00:04:30,253 --> 00:04:34,733 Speaker 3: no issue with this the Animal's Welfare's countermount. But it's 87 00:04:34,773 --> 00:04:38,013 Speaker 3: sad also, isn't it for New Zealand kids that they'll 88 00:04:38,053 --> 00:04:41,973 Speaker 3: no longer have an elephant to wonder at? Maybe we 89 00:04:42,013 --> 00:04:45,013 Speaker 3: could have bought more elephants over here, and I was 90 00:04:45,053 --> 00:04:48,093 Speaker 3: flying the flag for that initially. Then I heard Brisbane 91 00:04:48,213 --> 00:04:52,653 Speaker 3: zoos already decided to replace the elephants that they have 92 00:04:53,333 --> 00:04:56,253 Speaker 3: once they die. They say the cost of setting up 93 00:04:56,253 --> 00:05:00,653 Speaker 3: a herd of elephants is phenomenal around at A guess 94 00:05:00,853 --> 00:05:06,013 Speaker 3: they said one hundred million dollars. Nonetheless, I find it 95 00:05:06,133 --> 00:05:09,533 Speaker 3: sad that kids won't have an elephant to see and 96 00:05:09,613 --> 00:05:13,133 Speaker 3: to experience first stand anymore. We all did you know, 97 00:05:13,493 --> 00:05:15,253 Speaker 3: do you remember when you first saw an elephant? 98 00:05:15,333 --> 00:05:18,173 Speaker 2: Jack? I don't remember when I first saw one, but 99 00:05:18,733 --> 00:05:23,133 Speaker 2: I do remember some of the more special encounters I've 100 00:05:23,133 --> 00:05:27,693 Speaker 2: had with elephants. They are just the most graceful, magnificent animals. 101 00:05:28,293 --> 00:05:32,013 Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of encounters, we had a delightful elephant at 102 00:05:32,013 --> 00:05:35,933 Speaker 3: Wellington Zoo Kamal. I once had to be filmed climbing 103 00:05:36,013 --> 00:05:41,333 Speaker 3: up onto her by her enormous ear, by gripping onto 104 00:05:41,373 --> 00:05:44,693 Speaker 3: its ear, climbing up and throwing my leg over, and 105 00:05:44,733 --> 00:05:46,933 Speaker 3: then had to do a little talk to camera. Of course, 106 00:05:46,973 --> 00:05:49,813 Speaker 3: once I got up there, the cameraman wanted me down again. 107 00:05:49,893 --> 00:05:52,493 Speaker 3: He hadn't got the shop quite right, so m climb 108 00:05:52,613 --> 00:05:56,613 Speaker 3: up went on about five times that kamal gorgeous gorgeous 109 00:05:56,613 --> 00:06:00,133 Speaker 3: elephant was very patient. The thing I can tell you, 110 00:06:00,613 --> 00:06:04,053 Speaker 3: if you don't already know about sitting their back on 111 00:06:04,133 --> 00:06:08,373 Speaker 3: an elephant, is that it's hairs PSHP trousers give you 112 00:06:08,373 --> 00:06:10,933 Speaker 3: a small bottom. Did you know? 113 00:06:11,053 --> 00:06:14,133 Speaker 2: I didn't know that, And that feels like the other 114 00:06:14,173 --> 00:06:15,853 Speaker 2: thing you only learn from experience. 115 00:06:17,013 --> 00:06:20,413 Speaker 3: Yes, anyway, bond boy, as you're very very right to 116 00:06:20,453 --> 00:06:22,973 Speaker 3: have some mates around you. We wish you're well. 117 00:06:23,133 --> 00:06:26,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was at the zoo yesterday. I've got 118 00:06:26,053 --> 00:06:28,613 Speaker 2: my yeah, my sister, my brother in law and the 119 00:06:28,613 --> 00:06:33,373 Speaker 2: three nephews and nieces up this weekend, which is so nice. 120 00:06:33,373 --> 00:06:35,213 Speaker 2: And so we went to the zoo with three quarters 121 00:06:35,213 --> 00:06:36,693 Speaker 2: of Auckland yesterday and had a bit of a look 122 00:06:36,693 --> 00:06:38,493 Speaker 2: and I thought, I said to them, then, yeah, this 123 00:06:38,533 --> 00:06:40,213 Speaker 2: is the last time we're going to be seeing Burmer here. 124 00:06:40,533 --> 00:06:41,853 Speaker 2: I think it's a good thing, isn't it. You know, 125 00:06:41,933 --> 00:06:45,693 Speaker 2: you want you want these animals to you know, companionship 126 00:06:45,733 --> 00:06:48,173 Speaker 2: and be happy years as much as possible. So yeah, 127 00:06:48,213 --> 00:06:50,893 Speaker 2: I think ultimately it's a it's a good thing. Yeah. 128 00:06:51,013 --> 00:06:53,933 Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder really well, just going on what there's 129 00:06:54,013 --> 00:06:58,813 Speaker 3: the the zoo in Brisbane, said wondering whether in fact 130 00:06:58,813 --> 00:07:03,533 Speaker 3: there will ever be animals elephants left in Australia soon, 131 00:07:04,693 --> 00:07:07,453 Speaker 3: in which case that would be difficult kids to the 132 00:07:07,453 --> 00:07:10,013 Speaker 3: other side of the blading world too, you know. Yeah. 133 00:07:10,373 --> 00:07:14,333 Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing that was interesting for me yesterday was 134 00:07:14,333 --> 00:07:15,853 Speaker 2: that it was the first time I've been at the 135 00:07:15,933 --> 00:07:19,373 Speaker 2: zoo since I was fortunate enough to travel through Southern 136 00:07:19,413 --> 00:07:23,813 Speaker 2: Africa a couple of years ago. And my nephew was really, really, 137 00:07:23,893 --> 00:07:26,413 Speaker 2: really excited to see a rhino. And of course they've 138 00:07:26,413 --> 00:07:28,853 Speaker 2: got rhinos at Auckland zoos, so that was really exciting. 139 00:07:28,893 --> 00:07:31,293 Speaker 2: And they've got those kind of ridiculous you know, those 140 00:07:31,413 --> 00:07:35,493 Speaker 2: ridiculous bodies where they're so stocky rhinos. Yeah, yeah, they 141 00:07:35,533 --> 00:07:37,973 Speaker 2: all look like they're sort of you know, playing hooker 142 00:07:38,013 --> 00:07:40,853 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty two for a sort of a regional 143 00:07:40,973 --> 00:07:46,093 Speaker 2: MPC team anyway. But the last time that yeah, yeah, 144 00:07:46,373 --> 00:07:48,773 Speaker 2: incredibly fast. Yeah, the last time I saw a rhino 145 00:07:50,293 --> 00:07:52,613 Speaker 2: it had just been poached. I saw a rhino that 146 00:07:52,653 --> 00:07:55,213 Speaker 2: had been that had been shot dead and just a 147 00:07:55,213 --> 00:07:57,333 Speaker 2: couple of hours before and had had its had had 148 00:07:57,373 --> 00:08:01,373 Speaker 2: its horn chainsawed off, and yeah, it was it was 149 00:08:01,453 --> 00:08:04,373 Speaker 2: quite startling. Yeah, to see them yesterday, you know, see 150 00:08:04,373 --> 00:08:07,413 Speaker 2: them obviously in a much better state, but quite remarkable 151 00:08:07,653 --> 00:08:09,773 Speaker 2: to think that people could hurt animals like that. 152 00:08:09,893 --> 00:08:14,413 Speaker 3: You know. Yes, I remember traveling through a Kenya in 153 00:08:14,493 --> 00:08:17,853 Speaker 3: a bus. You know, We're going around the wildlife park 154 00:08:18,253 --> 00:08:22,133 Speaker 3: and one charge the bus straight into the side of it. 155 00:08:22,413 --> 00:08:26,053 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's amazing for anybody. No, no, I'm not 156 00:08:26,053 --> 00:08:28,253 Speaker 2: sure the insurance covers that. Hey, thank you so much. 157 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:28,613 Speaker 3: Givin. 158 00:08:29,253 --> 00:08:32,373 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 159 00:08:32,453 --> 00:08:35,253 Speaker 1: to News Talks d B from nine am Saturday, or 160 00:08:35,333 --> 00:08:37,253 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.