1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Gavin Gray UK correspondence with us Elogevin. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: Hi there man alive? 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: What happened on the train? 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a really grim story from the weekend. 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: On a Saturday at night, a train going into London 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: and reaching its final destination of Peterborough and man got on, 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: no particular alarms being rang, and then about one hundred 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: kilometers to the north of London, that man started stabbing 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: people on the train no warning at all, a large 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: kitchen knife. Originally eleven people were injured. Thankfully only one 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: is still in hospital, but that man is said to 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: be an absolute hero who saved other passengers' lives by 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: trying to protect these train passengers and also the train 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: driver acting really really quickly, Heather, because the train was 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: on the fast lane as it were of the railway, 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: and that would have made it very very difficult to 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: stop where it was, which would have perhaps been the 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: inclination when he heard what was going on, But actually 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: he managed to ring control and say I need to 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: get on the slow track which goes by platforms, knowing 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: there was a stop coming up, and that meant that 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: the police and armed police could get to them very 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: very quickly. A suspect, a British black man from Peterborough, 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: a thirty two year old, is the only suspect. He's 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: been arrested. At the scene. Police say they recovered a 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: knife and those passengers on board said it was absolutely terrifying. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: We still don't know the motive, but it looks like 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,639 Speaker 2: this was not motivated by terrorism. That's what the police believe. 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: The Home sectary is expected to make a statement later today. 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: So I saw the news that's come through just in 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours or so that Andrew has 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Head sold a private tour of Buckingham Palace for like 33 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: three million New Zealand dollars while the Queen was in residence. 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: So it just seems that it's just the stuff does 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: not stop. Is there any indication that this is the 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: worst of it or is more to come? Oh? 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: I think more will be to come, particularly from the 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein friendship that he had, and that is because 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: the Epstein files are continuing to turn out new facts 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: as they are being investigated one by one, emails and 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: documents coming through. So in this particular incidence that you 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: talk about, this was a company called Pegasus Group Holdings. 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: It was run as a company that did investments, but 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: the brand ambassador was Sarah Ferguson and in other words, 45 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: Prince Andrew's ex wife reported to have a salary of 46 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: roughly three million New Zealand dollars for this crypto mining scheme, 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: but it later failed and closed within the year and 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: that lost investors many millions of pounds, and it is 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: reported that yes, it was all part of a deal 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: that she could be brand ambassador. But then there were 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: obviously allegations that other things were going on, and it 52 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: was then said that Prince Andrew then Prince Andrew arranged 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: for a tour of Buckingham Palace. One of the people 54 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: on the tour from Pegasu's Group Holdings said that they've 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: met the Queen. The other one was very quick to 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: say no, he didn't meet the Queen, but they were 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: meet and greeted at Buckingham Palace and given a tour. 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: And ultimately obviously that the thought that Prince Andrew is 59 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: selling access to both politicians but also potentially around the 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: palace is deeply, deeply concerning. More and more of this 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: stuff coming and it looks like as well, his final 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: royal his final services title is being taken away from 63 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: him as well. So yeah, a bit of a week 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: that's going to keep being filled with Prince Andrew headlines. 65 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Do you think, Kevin, that some of the stuff is 66 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: being leaked by the Royal family to justify the decisions 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: that they've taken. 68 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: I've heard of that theory. I don't because I think 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: there's actually enough out there at the moment to actually 70 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: well justify what they've done. If anything, the Royal family 71 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: standardcused did not acting faster. Prince William starts a major 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: royal trip today involving trying to push about the environment 73 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: and global warming, and it's just going to not receive 74 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: much headlines. It's going to be overshadowed by what's going on, 75 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: just as the kings praying with the Pope for the 76 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: first time in five hundred years was also overshadowed, and 77 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: I think that was one of the reasons they have 78 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: really decided to act this quickly. 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Hi, thank you very much. 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