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Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing back home? What happens when you lay

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Speaker 1: down a few expectations coming. Aura As in State Housing

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Speaker 1: have been handing out warnings around behavior, a six hundred

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Speaker 1: percent increase in formal warnings six hundred We've got sixty

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Speaker 1: three evictions for violent or threatening behavior in the past

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Speaker 1: ten months. Litigation lawyer Adena Thorne's backward this Adena morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: So I note here eighty percent of the warnings these

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Speaker 1: are se fifty five. A's eighty percent, then it drops

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Speaker 1: to eighteen percent for a second notice, and by the

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Speaker 1: time you get to a third notice, which means A're

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Speaker 1: going to boot you out, it's two percent. So you

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Speaker 1: warn people, they get it. Presumably that's what it looks like, Mike.

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Speaker 2: These figures are encouraging. It looks like under this government

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Speaker 2: there's been a big step up and there seems to

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Speaker 2: be a moderate to good response by this government through

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Speaker 2: what's going on has been going on for some time,

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Speaker 2: and there's horrific fury. But some housing New Zealand homes

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Speaker 2: across New Zealand, I would say we've got to be

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Speaker 2: a little bit careful with these numbers because you can

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Speaker 2: pop big numbers, big percentages out there, like six hundred percent,

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Speaker 2: and you go wow, and I mean, let let's be fair.

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Speaker 2: Some are big improvement that you do start with very

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Speaker 2: small numbers. So when you pat back, they started with

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Speaker 2: only about one per working day, so you know, big improvement,

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Speaker 2: but they started with very small numbers.

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Speaker 1: You make a very good point. What do we know

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Speaker 1: about that? Is that one percent or one per day?

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Speaker 1: Is that in response to the actual problems or if

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Speaker 1: you actually went looking, there's fifty per day you could

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Speaker 1: be doing well.

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Speaker 2: I think there's more like fifty per day. So based

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Speaker 2: on my own box, there's far fewer absolutely stressed out,

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Speaker 2: petrified people contacting me, which is really really encouraging and

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Speaker 2: a good thing. But there's still are some. I mean

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Speaker 2: my assessment was there needs to be about one thousand

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Speaker 2: to fifteen hundred evictions across New Zealand to actually sort

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Speaker 2: this out. But it does take time and they are

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Speaker 2: going in the right direction. I mean, I got an

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Speaker 2: email just two weeks ago from someone in the North

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Speaker 2: Island and that I'm going to read you or just

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Speaker 2: a tiny book took aout a neighbor shouting aggressively and banging,

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Speaker 2: throwing things in the home, terminating neighbors by threatening the

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Speaker 2: whole street while standing in the front door. Data many

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Speaker 2: times Playing or a staff tell us it isn't a

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Speaker 2: matter for them, it's for the police. Then we go

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Speaker 2: to the police. They say no, it isn't for the police.

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Speaker 2: It's not an arrestable offense. And it's backward KAO. So

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Speaker 2: you've got a lot of it, and you've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of concern with people saying we don't really understand

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Speaker 2: how the warnings or three strikes or what if you

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Speaker 2: call it really works because we keep asking ko we

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Speaker 2: live next door across the road, they won't tell us anything,

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Speaker 2: and it's all very confusing. I think there needs to

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Speaker 2: be more and I actually think that Sir Bill English

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Speaker 2: did a report in March last year which seems to

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Speaker 2: have started this all off, and it's very easy to

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Speaker 2: read report and it's very clear in his view that

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Speaker 2: really in one line, playing or a house in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand was a disasters though, so I think you should

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Speaker 2: pack this up again, look at this issue. And also

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Speaker 2: at the same time, do I sort of get crying

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Speaker 2: Ora to do a house by house or home by

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Speaker 2: home review and they should look at hosts living in

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Speaker 2: each house. If she's got one person and three bedrooms,

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Speaker 2: maybe they need to look at that and look at

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Speaker 2: what's actually going on, and once and for all, tide

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Speaker 2: of the sector up.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's a bit of top down regionality.

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Speaker 1: In other words, in some parts of the country people

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Speaker 1: have taken the message seriously and others they haven't. So

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Speaker 1: you get some variation in the discipline if you like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to know, but I mean, from what

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Speaker 2: I see, these complaints are nationals and they're all across

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Speaker 2: the country. But you know, I think it needs to

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Speaker 2: come from the top. I mean, is the board of

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Speaker 2: Carying AURA or the CEO of Crying AURA fronting on

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Speaker 2: this issue?

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Speaker 1: Good point, very good point. All right, well we'll go

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Speaker 1: with that because that is Simon Muter, who is the

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Speaker 1: chair of Coying AURA. I think I'm correct in saying

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Speaker 1: that Adina Thorne, who's litigation lawyer. So if she's correct,

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Speaker 1: and you need one thousand and fifteen hundred victions at

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Speaker 1: sixty three, but it worked to be For more from

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