1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Get a It's Jerry here from the Headache Breakfast. Just 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: letting you know that if you're listening to the podcast 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: but didn't know that we also do a live radio show, 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: we do. And if you're wondering how to find out 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: what frequency to listen to us in your area, just 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: takes north or South as an island to three four 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: eight three. Then we'll let you know. And now let's 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: get on with the podcast. Welcome onto the podcast Matter 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: the sixth of October twenty twenty five minutes. Jeremy Wells 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: in surprise, malng Or in attendance. 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: Surprise, good month long, happy Monday, fellas Jesus, it doesn't 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: really feel like one. 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. It was one of those weekends, wasn't 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: it if you were up sport watching Oh my god? Yeah, 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, absolutely spent. 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Oh I am as a ridiculous, ridiculous timing for some 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: of the sports that we played over the weekend. Why 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: was the All Blacks so bloody late Perth? 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: But just Perth? 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: But just play it on p played in the afternoon. 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: Don't play it in Perth. 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: Don't play in bloody Perth. 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing should be played in Perth. Apart from 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: Australia versus you know, South Africa cricket matches. 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well they don't even play them with the 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: wacker anymore. 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: So what time would it have started? East and Seaboard time? 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: Seven forty five, seven forty five five, in forty five 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: something in Perth and Perth. But I'm thinking because I'm 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: guessing they would have been aiming at the Eastern Seaboard 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: market from Perth because we were ten forty five. So 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: Sydney seven forty five, Perth. 33 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: Yep forty five. So great if you're in Perth, great 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: if you're on the Eastern seaboard of Australia. 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: Sure. 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Firstly, nobody in Perth watches rugby and nobody on the 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: Eastern Seaboard of Australia watches rugby. 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: I don't agree with that. Half of the population of 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: Perth is kiw we. 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I did see. I did notice that there's 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: a lot of There were a lot of New Zealanders 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: at opt the stadium. 43 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: The stadium God was raining, yeah, bloody per Yeah. 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just used to Perth. I'm just used to 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Perth in the summer because I only hear a hear 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: about Perth during New Zealand playing Australia at in cricket, 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: and so you just think about thirty five degrees the 48 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Freemantle doctor, It's it's grueling. 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: I've told the story many times about my father and 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: I was sitting in the stands at the Whacker for 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: a couple of days waiting for Arno Kumblad to take 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: his fucking millionth work it. As soon as we left, 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: I think I had heat stroke. I was about to 54 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: throw up. It was that bloody hot. So it's a 55 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: dry heat that way, dry as dry as dry and 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: hot as hell. 57 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: Right, it was stupid. 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: We were the only ones sitting in the stand. We 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: were like, we couldn't believe how good a seat we 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: could get because all of the Aussies were sitting because yeah, 61 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: there's there's shadows, and everywhere the shadows were were Australians 62 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: and then there was me and Dad. 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, that's how you can tell a New Zealand 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world. Yeah, we don't gravitate to the shade. Well, 65 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: are the only people in the world. We're like, we're 66 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: straight into the sun and we get absolutely brutalized by it. 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: We're like dogs as opposed to cats. If you walk 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: into a room, a dog will just be sitting wherever 69 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: the hell, whereas a cat will find the most comfortable 70 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: position in the room to sit, you know what I mean? 71 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: A dog will how many times as your dog just 72 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: about caught on fire, sitting in front of the fireplace 73 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 2: or a heater or something. And then whereas the cat's 74 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: always sitting in the right spot. We as Kiwis, we're dogs. Yeah, 75 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: we're always in the wrong spots. What's that guy doing 76 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: over there? 77 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Why's he doing that? Go anywhere in the tropics though, 78 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: and you just everybody just hangs out in the shade 79 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: the whole time. Everyone's looking for the shade. And as 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: a kid, you just grow up knowing that you should 81 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: be in the shade. It just makes sense for us. 82 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: We're just brutalizing ourselves in the same because you're in 83 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the sun. 84 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, am I not a Keiwik because I gravitate towards 85 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: the shade? 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: Yeah? 87 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: This is blome my mind. What you guys are saying 88 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: that it's a New Zealand thing, go for the shade? 89 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Is it? 90 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: Because I'm so parley? 91 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: I always so what. 92 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: I'm so parley pale, pale, yeah, pale man. 93 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: I always see New Zealanders just getting punished in the sun. 94 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: I think the other thing is when you go over seas, 95 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: because usually when you're here you get burnt straight away, 96 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: whereas if you go over seas you can actually sit 97 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: in the sun for hours and be sweet. 98 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder as well. Being a North Islander, particularly 99 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: Upper North Islander, whether I mean for News for Upper Northouldanders, 100 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether you're in the shade or the sun. 101 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: You just gets hot. 102 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: Shade doesn't help. 103 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: Not in Auckland. It's humor is a problem. But in 104 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: the South Island you get in the shade and it's 105 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: probably too. 106 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: Cold, yeah, can be Well, that's the other thing that 107 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: passed me off is in the South Island you can 108 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: get sunburn and still be cold, you know, And that 109 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: tries that sucks, Yeah it does, but you're right. It's 110 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: the it's a community. And another thing that happens up 111 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: here is there's like humidity spikes. You know about this. 112 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: I I only became aware of it a couple of 113 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: years ago. And it's a thing where because Auckland's on 114 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: two coasts on the Isthmus that you can have these 115 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: rapid spikes in humidity where the temperature doesn't go up 116 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: at all, and all of a sudden, you just find 117 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: yourself sweating and you're like, why do I feel so 118 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: much more uncomfortable? And it can happen at like seven 119 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: o'clock at night, and it's a humidity spike. 120 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know those. I reckon. There's a week and 121 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: it's generally at the end of January. Yeah. Yeah, and 122 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: it's where you can't do up your shoes without sweating. 123 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: So you bend over to do up your shoelaces and 124 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: you get sweating. And once you start sweating, you actually 125 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: can't stop. You need a cold shower is the only 126 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: way to stop it. 127 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: Get out of the shower, and then you're immediately sweaty again, 128 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: and you're like, god, what was the point of that. 129 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Even the other day actually, I came back from 130 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: the South Island with my dry South Island lips from 131 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: the no humidity and got off the plane and it's 132 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: what it was, the last couple of days of September, 133 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: so you know, first month of spring, and it was human. 134 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: I just immediately felt the humidity. Yeah, it was like yep, 135 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: there it is the old North Island humidity. 136 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, a few mates that whenever they come up here, 137 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: they're like, fuck, it's hot. How do you how do 138 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: you put up with this? 139 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: And so it's not actually hot. It's actually the humidity, 140 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: Actually the humidity that gets It's not that it's actually 141 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: twenty four degrees. 142 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: I think you'll find it's the humidity. She ever got 143 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: the speed dealers, it's just walked past. 144 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: It is that kind of like, well, you can't be 145 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: Wellington in a good day. 146 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the hate, it's the humidity. 147 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: It's not the hate. It's the humidity that will get 148 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: you in Auckland. 149 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 2: I'm sure this is I'm sure every sort of large 150 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: town or city in New Zealand has the equivalent of this. 151 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: But everyone that lives on the north shore of Auckland 152 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: will tell you how close it is to the CBD, 153 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: And that's a did give away that it is not close, 154 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: closer than you'd think. Yeah, it's actually not that far. 155 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: It's actually not that fast, isn't it? Or have they 156 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: built had to build the most expensive bridge in the 157 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: country to get you there? 158 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: How about in Russia? 159 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what you're going to say in Russia. 160 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: Well how about in Russia? You know, is that close 161 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: to the Auckland Sea, Russia? No, not back close, not 162 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: close at all. No, that's the thing. Whenever you whenever 163 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: you hear someone, someone will be like, oh yeah see 164 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: something not not too far from the cross. You see it? 165 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: Everyone brought it up. 166 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, no, I'm just my screen time. Things just 167 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: come up. Fuck that. How's everyone going? Last week's It'll 168 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: be no good. How's everyone gone? 169 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: It'll be no good at all. 170 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: This is like maybe you're playing Australia at cricket. I 171 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: always lose always or do I win? You lose your things? 172 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: I thought you think you lose again? 173 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: You Yeah, go to the bottom of that first page. 174 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: Daily average fifty one minutes for me. 175 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: Well that's good, na I yeah, one minute now that's 176 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: the first thing that comes up. You've got to go. 177 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: That's today, is it? 178 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 179 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, go back to last week. You swipe back and 180 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: you'll get into yesterday. I was two hours twenty seven yesterday. 181 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Actually, four hours one on. 182 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 2: Saturday, yes, same, four hours fifty three. 183 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, two hours on WhatsApp? What the hell? 184 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: Oh there we go, that's not. 185 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: Hang on tho, hang on though, we. 186 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: Want to know. Do you want to know? 187 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: What were you? 188 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: My last week? 189 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Ever? Long? 190 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: Down seven percent from the week previous, A mere five 191 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: hours forty seven minutes. Wow, I was four fucking what's 192 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: going on? 193 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: I need to put the fucking thing down? 194 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: What was going on? 195 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: Scroll down? How many notifications are you getting? 196 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: There's a thing that's quite a good one. So my 197 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: average for the week. 198 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, average for the week, I am just under. I'm 199 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: seventy four messages a day. I receive seventy four notifications. 200 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Oh notifications, okay, notifications eighty eight percent? Down R three 201 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: three notifications. Yeah, I don't have notifications on. 202 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: I need to turn more of them off. 203 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: I turned mine off. But my daily packups, Now this 204 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: is the thing ruder, This is the bit that screws you. Yeah, 205 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: what was last week's average packups? 206 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: How do you find? 207 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: No, that's down? 208 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: That's above verage? Pickups is above notifications. 209 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: Now I can only see total. I can see total pickups, 210 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: go back. 211 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: To last year, one hundred and one pickups? 212 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: Is that average last week? Yeah? That's not too bad. 213 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: I was ninety eight. 214 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: So when I pick it up, I'm using it for 215 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: too much. I feel like if I watch something on 216 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: my computer that's showing up in my screen time. 217 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, one hundred and ninety five, one. 218 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: Hundred and ninety five packups. He's your problem, Ruder. You've 219 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: got to you've got to cut that. 220 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: The packups ninety one last week? 221 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: WHOA, how do you cut the pickups down? Well, you 222 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: just stop. 223 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm in an interesting situation with my thirteen year old 224 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: son's clearly addicted to his phone like all kids seemed 225 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: to be, and all his friends, and it's bloody hard 226 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: to watch, to be honest and horrible. Should we come 227 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: back to this, Yes, I gotta have. So I'll look 228 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: for a bit of advice from you two one person, Ruder, 229 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: father of two and I father of none. And but 230 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: but but recent most recently are teenager yourself? Yeah, yep, 231 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'd like your advice on this. So my 232 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: son is recently he was went fishing and his phone 233 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: fell out of his pocket and oh, that's right, I 234 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: couldn't find it. No, there was that time it went 235 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: into the water. Yeah. Yeah, And so he lost that 236 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: phone because we freshed it out and it didn't work, 237 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: and then he got another phone, and then we waited 238 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: a while, probably about three weeks, trying and make him 239 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: kind of punish on and got another phone and he 240 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: has now lost that phone. Oh how thirteen. 241 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: But I did this when I was thirteen. So I 242 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: saved up all my pocket money for years, a couple 243 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: of years and bought a cell phone. And I just 244 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: was not equipped to have it. I lift it on 245 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: top of the car one day, Mom drove down to 246 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: the supermarket and it fell off. Someone found it and 247 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: gave it to the cops and they rung us and. 248 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: Yeah it was buggered. 249 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: Well, I lift it in random places. I lost I 250 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: think I lost three three insurance claims from mum. 251 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: Well he's normally pretty good, Like he's had a phone 252 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: for a couple of years and he's only lost it 253 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: in the last wee while. Yeah, but twice. 254 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: It's just so easy to do at that age. 255 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but okay, so what so I don't want to 256 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to buy him another phone. Firstly, it's 257 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: too expensive. Yeah. Secondly, I want to teach him a 258 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: lesson about about losing things. Well, I think maybe so 259 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: I need because he is at boarding school. I need 260 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: to also be able to get hold of him because 261 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: there's no other phone. 262 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: That's why I had run. Yeah. So, but well I 263 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: do well. I think you get his you get his 264 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: pickups up. He's not picking it up often enough, and 265 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: that's where he's he's leaving it and losing it. So 266 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: if you can get him up around the three or 267 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: four hundred pickups a day, then the chance of him 268 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: losing that away. 269 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: Seems to lose it only when he's fishing. 270 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: Have you ever lost your phone? 271 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: No, I phone. 272 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: I've it up two hundred times a day. 273 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: I've damaged my phone quite badly a number of times, 274 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: but cracks drop it in my own urine. 275 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking Nokia flip phone. 276 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to suggest he's really not. 277 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: Nah. 278 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: He sort of said that. It's basically, if you're running 279 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: a Nokia flip phone at the age of thirteen, every 280 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: one makes fun of you. 281 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: The social Suicideah, you might lose it on purpose. 282 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: Bro. 283 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: When I was thirteen, if I had a nock your 284 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: flip phone, that's like top of the pops there. 285 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they didn't have phones. 286 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: When I can I ask a question, Jary Beefully it's 287 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: not too personal. What sort of coin are you spinning 288 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: on phones? 289 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: For you. Well, the last tie was like a second 290 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: hand like iPhone and eleven or twelve or something. It 291 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: was like the cheapest thing I could possibly get. Yeah, 292 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: you know had basically. 293 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, because back in my day it was still the 294 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: nock Here twenty to eighty. And in fact, my first 295 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: cell phone was an Alcaatel the Greensucker, all the aeril 296 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: out of it. 297 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: Wow, one of those ones. 298 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: Then I got the knock Here twenty to eighty, clickerly 299 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: clack on the buttons. We so the school teachers took 300 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: the took rugby balls off us at lunchtime because we 301 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: were ripping our uniforms. So we'd play rugby at lunchtime, 302 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: and you know, we'd all come in with ripped pockets 303 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: and shirts ripped and stuff. And they were like, we can't, 304 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: we can't have this, So they took the rugby balls 305 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: off us. We started playing rugby with nock Here twenty 306 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: two eighties. Instead of the ball. You could put that 307 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: thing as far as you could a Gilbert that's good, 308 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: and all that would happen is maybe the bettery would 309 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: come Out's good. It was quite fun. I remember distinctly 310 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: one day we're playing with one of the kids cell 311 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: phones and we're tossing around and started ringing and he 312 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: had to take a call from his master. 313 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: That's good, Okay, So I'm not any closer to any 314 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: advice from you. Guys have actually proper practical advice is 315 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: what what? What should I do? 316 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: I just think he might be too young, because I 317 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: remember at that age I was losing the phone all 318 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: the time because you know, you're not thinking about it. 319 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: And actually maybe that's a good thing, because he's, you know. 320 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: He's definitely thinking about it the whole bloody time. He's 321 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: not way too much. I reckon. It's it's it's slightly 322 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: ADHD spectrum, which you were on. Well. 323 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: But I also wonder if he. 324 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: Loses lots of stuff all the time. 325 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Because you know how people are like, oh yeah, add 326 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: wasn't around when I was a kid, blah blah blah, 327 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: so cell phones went around. I don't know if there's 328 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: more people with various different things, or you just your 329 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: brain's not designed to have the entirety of human information 330 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: beamed into your fucking head. Twenty four hours of. 331 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: Oh man, I reckon, cell phones are causing a huge 332 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: spike in. 333 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: That my my attention spent so cool. Yesterday I tried 334 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: to watch them. Well, I did watch a movie on 335 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: the couch and I just found myself picking my phone 336 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: up and then look back at the TV and I'm like, 337 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: what's going on in this movie? 338 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: Just put the phone? I reckon as well. If you're 339 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: tired slash hungover, then you will pack up your phone 340 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: way more as well. It's just like a boom boom. 341 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: It's like your brain just does the easiest, most basic thing. 342 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: I did it again last night watching the Grand Final. 343 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: The group chat was firing up, and so I was like, oh, 344 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: what are the fellas reckon about the game? 345 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Now? 346 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I'm on Instagram and I'm watching 347 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: someone else posting about the game. I'm fucking watching. 348 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 349 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: A couple more questions regarding your son and his phone. 350 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: Does he realize how important it is to you guys 351 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: that he has one? 352 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: Ie? 353 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: Does he know that you know you want to keep 354 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: that contact with him and that's the best way of 355 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: doing it. 356 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: Maybe? 357 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't. 358 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't really want to be in 359 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: contact with him that much. 360 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: To be honest, you're not just asking him what's up? 361 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: Random exactly like, nah, I mean you have have to 362 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: because he's away at boarding school. But I don't really, 363 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't I don't want to 364 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: talk to that much. 365 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: And question number two, does he have any way at 366 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: the moment of making money, because I know your daughter 367 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: has currently got a job. 368 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: Well, yes he has. Actually he well he can do 369 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: jobs and over the weekend he did, but that was 370 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: to pay something else off. So it's kind of like 371 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: which we had to buy for him because he lost. 372 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't know, I'm kind of I'm 373 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: sort of I'm hoping it's just a phase. But at 374 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: the same time, I want to make a good parenting 375 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to like be an asshole. But at 376 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: the same time, I got to You've got to teach 377 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: your kids that the value of things and like, don't 378 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: lose things. And I think if you if you lose something, 379 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: you have to go with it, you have to go 380 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: without it. 381 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well because that's how life works. Yeah, and 382 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: it sucks. 383 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 384 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think because, like I said, I lost 385 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: mine like three times, and I I don't know, I 386 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: think it was it just took for me getting a 387 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: little bit older, but back then they didn't have social 388 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: media on that phones. It was literally just texting, although 389 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: I could download a polyphonic ring tone at that point 390 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: they were great Lincoln Park numb a numb polyphonic ring pack, 391 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: and then and then after that you could actually start 392 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: recording things and you could set that as your and 393 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: I had the intro to faint by Lincoln Park, the screeching. 394 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: How into Lincoln Park? Were you very into? Linkin like, 395 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: you were really into Lincoln Park, weren't you? 396 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: And I relapsed probably once a year into my Lincoln parkways, 397 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: but really passed my dad off Lincoln Park. 398 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 399 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: We went over to the West Coast one time for 400 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: like a holiday, and I was texting all my mates 401 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: the whole way across. Then every single time I received 402 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: a text, the screeching strings from the start of Lincoln 403 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: Park Faint started on the text on the Yeah I didn't. Yeah, 404 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: I want to throw that thing out the window. 405 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm amazed he didn't. 406 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: Oh he should have. 407 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: I think I would have. 408 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just about did. But by the end of it, 409 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: how are you, dude? 410 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's quite good. 411 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hello, I'm just around at Piztez. Oh. Yeah, yeah, 412 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: I'll be I'm sure, sure that's good. 413 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: How like budget was the sound. 414 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: Of polyphonic ringtones. I don't even think mine was that good. 415 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: It's not a bad one. 416 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: And you used to sit there and flick through them 417 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: and used to buy them. 418 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: You used to have to buy them. 419 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: What ever happens to the polyphonic ringtone, man, we've we've 420 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: really lost our way. 421 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: It'll come back, because they'll come back as a retrophone. 422 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: Now because the only people that are still changing the ringtone, 423 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: I think most people have the default ringtone. Have either 424 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: of you has got a custom ring tone? 425 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: I've got my mine's always on silent, yes, same. 426 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 3: I can't remember what mine is now. 427 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: But I've noticed the older boys, a lot of them 428 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: have that rock and roll thing. I don't have that 429 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: as their ring as a wedding down sound. A couple 430 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: of weeks ago and Georg the boat, Yeah yeah, yeah, 431 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: I heard a couple of different fune guys up there, 432 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: and then they answer it at a volume that is 433 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: so unreasonable to talk on a phone. So I do 434 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: just open the window here here. You don't need to 435 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: call them. 436 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: Do you know what'd be really annoying to the listeners 437 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: of the radio show as if we ran top of ours, 438 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 3: we're just standard ring tones because they just think their 439 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 3: phone's fucking. 440 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah or the alarm tone. 441 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: Okay, we're funny, right. 442 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: I will say, if you still listening to this podcast 443 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: at this point, I've just come across a post from 444 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: Charlie Brown. It was regarding the Austin City Limits podcast 445 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: that we talked about last week. They were talking about 446 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: some of the because there's about one hundred different artists 447 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: we're going there this weekend. So if you are familiar 448 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: with any of them, get onto it's Charlie Brown's post. 449 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's a real person. Don't post if you're 450 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: an adult, because all ill here is. But get in 451 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: there with your reviews of some of the bands that 452 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: we should go to, because I think we haven't heard 453 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: the most a lot of the smaller ones. 454 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: We started up on Friday, didn't we listening to different 455 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: bands and stuff like that. 456 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So get your reviews and let us know which 457 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: ones we should go and see and we'll talk about 458 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: it tomorrow. 459 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: I think this is mine that. 460 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: I think that's mine too. What is that one called? 461 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 3: It's called Reflection Default. 462 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 463 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: Stop stop stressing out. 464 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: This one was better. 465 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: That's the ship alright,