1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: And you'd be senior political correspondent Barry Soapers here in studio. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Okayder Barry, Good evening, Jack. It is going to be 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: easier to get X rays, et cetera, which is going 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: to come as a massive relief for a lot of people. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I think so absolutely. It won't only be X rays, 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: be CT scans and ultrasounds, and it'll be across New Zealand. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: The biggest problem really has been in the provinces at 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: the moment. What has to happen is that you've got 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: to go to a specialist to be referred to get 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: an X ray, a CT scan or an ultrasound, which 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: can you can imagine the length of. 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: Time that can comes up the works, doesn't it? 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: Well? It does. And GPS are perfectly able to refer somebody, say, 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: for an example, on X ray, and you know they 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: then by the time he gets to the specialist, they've 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: got a very good case in point. I mean, you know, 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: I've had a lot of experience in medical area. Recently, 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: I walked in essentially off the street the other day 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: and had an X rays due to have one, but 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: there was no problem health number and got one. In 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: a city like Auckland. It's not altogether that difficult, but 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: it's in the provinces that is a real concern and 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: you'll be aware of this. Jack. Next week it's Men's 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Health Week and that's really important. All men should take 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: much more care of their help. And one of the 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: medics that has been dealing with me, he said, what 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: should happen with men is that, like you have to 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: take your car for a warrant of fitness every year, 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: men should It should be compulsory in New Zealand from 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: men at fifty to have blood you know, blood pressure tests, 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: listen to the heart and if it was compulsory, you 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't have the problems that you have further down the track. 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to that idea. 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: You can imagine imagine the civil libertarian Yeah, they would 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: go crazy and say, no, you can't do that. You're 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: imposing it, you know. 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: But if you want your free healthcare, then you've got 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: to do your but go and get a warrant fitness. Yeah, 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Christopher Luxen is not ruling out a larger and Tiparty Marty. 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: He's got to be careful with this stuff himself though, 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: just over any any perceptions of any you know, of 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: benefiting politically from any of this, and I think he's 43 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: played perfectly fine from now. 44 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: Yes, no, And this this is an extraordinarily serious issue 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: that not only has possibly acts been broken, therefore the 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: law's been broken, but the sanctity of your senses. When 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: you fill out your senses form, you fill out a 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: lot of very personal information. Now this has been photocopied 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: as the allegations are by the Mudd Eye that the 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: successful multi party candidate was the chief executive of and 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: used for political purposes and similarly for COVID immunization. If 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: material has been used for that, then it is very serious. Indeed, 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: we know that Stat's New Zealand is having a look 54 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: at a complaint has been laid with the police, but 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: to my mind should take a bigger inquiry than that, 56 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: because we're not only looking at possible criminality here, we're 57 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: looking at major privacy issues and really I think they 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: should be looked at very careful. 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: Important to point out, of course, they have denied all 60 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: allegations of wrongdoing so far to Party Mahdi, the candidates, 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: John Tummerheaty, et cetera. I mean the point I made 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: just after four o'clock was in terms of a larger inquiry. 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: It's in the interests of the public, the voting public, 64 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: but also for those people at the center of these allegations. 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: You would think to be to be clear if that 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: you know they are they say they're one hundred percent 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: innocent of any of any long. Yeah, so you would 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: think that, you know, maybe it would be in their 69 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: interests given these allegations as well. The potholes are going 70 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: to be fixed, well. 71 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: You know, it's incredible, and you know they're going to 72 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: spend really totally about four billion more bucks. I was 73 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: amazed that somebody has obviously gone around and counted the potholes, 74 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: because in New Zealand we had apparently last year sixty 75 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: two thousand potholes it around the country. 76 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Really, do you know they can use AI for some 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: of us. I know they've been using this recently. What 78 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: they put a camera on the front of the car 79 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: and then they drive along the and the camera works 80 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: out what's a. 81 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: Pothole and we know we've got a pothole exactly. You know, 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: it really is a problem in New Zealand. I don't 83 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: know how much you drive, but you know I drive 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: reasonable amount on open roads, and you do have clangers 85 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: every now and then. But do you know I was 86 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: thinking when we were talking about potholes. The worst country 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 2: in the world that I've experienced for potholes. It's where 88 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: Chris Luxen is at the moment, are in the Pacific 89 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: and Fiji. And I remember many many years ago going 90 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: to the first coup when the current prime minister there 91 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: said to be around Booka had taken the place over 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: at gunpoint and I had to get from Nandy to 93 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: Suva in a big rush because the coup had just occurred. 94 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, it was a hell of a 95 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: job to get there. Potholes everywhere the roads have been 96 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: looked at for many many years, and we can't get 97 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: into a situation in this country. People do complain every 98 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: time they've got and drive on the open roads. So 99 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: I say good luck to the government. Get in there 100 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: and fill in these bloody potholes. 101 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Very good, Thank you for your time. Very that is 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: very sober. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen 103 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.